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We really appreciate it. And congrats on getting a nomination for Best Pinball Podcast on the Pinball Industry Award. I like the acronym better. Getting a PIA. A PIA? Mm-hmm. Pinball Industry Award. Cool. Good job, Puppet Pals, on your PIA nomination. For those of you wondering what the hell's Ian wearing, I'm going my Axl Rose I told them to stop Before we even got started I said stop Sweet child of mine Yeah I'm doing this Because the CEs are shipping baby And I'm getting in the spirit I would never drink And embarrass myself I don't know why you're drinking And embarrassing yourself Finger guns Hey everybody welcome to the poor man's pinball podcast Episode number 88 88 miles an hour. Back to the future. I was just about to say, are we going back to the future? Back to the future. Thank you, everyone, for joining us live. Love seeing all these people on chat. If you have not enjoyed us on Twitch, you guys have to come to the live show. Do you know what you're missing? It's so much fun. Chat is rambunctious. They're crass. They're crass, they're gentlemanly and scholarly and womanly and wonderfully people. Our favorite people. So join us. Come join us on the live show. It's really, really fun. Maybe. Maybe. I don't know. I'm not on it. I'm just here to sell and to talk shit. How about that? I can get down with that. Let's talk some shit. All right, Drew. How you doing, man? I've had a banner week. Banner week. Banner week. This is my banner, and this is the week. That's the week. That was it. That was my banner week. It's glorious, Drew. Tell us. What makes it such a banner week? Some of you guys know. I mean, I'm not going to bore you with the details, but after 23 years, I'm changing my career. Whoa. I can finally say that out loud. It's a very exciting time in my life. Yeah. Personally, the white's excited. I'm excited. This is huge. For those of you who don't know, Drew's going to go a little bit the way of Greg Bone, right? Selling some houses. So congratulations, Drew. I am officially licensed. He is officially licensed. Yay! Sell a house. Get those houses sold. So anyway, it feels really good to say that out loud. I had to kind of keep it under wraps because of my job, and I worked out a deal with them where I'm working less hours and blah, blah, blah. But it's awesome. So two weeks. You're going to look so much younger in two weeks. life isn't going to beat you down as bad. I can't wait. You're going to look like you're 20 years old. Those balls will come right back up, firm up nicely, you know, and the gray hairs will fall off them. I was going to say. It'll rain like snow. My gray pubes say otherwise. Pubes. Pubes. The pubes. It's like saying emu. Pubes. Emu. Emu. So, hey, Tim, Thank you for the 100 biddies, buddy. Oh, man. We got some biddies to catch up on, guys. Let me say thank you to Underground Pinball. Okay. Kaz. Love the biddies. Thank you so much. You know what we're going to do with those biddies? Show us your biddies. You know what we're going to do with those biddies? We're going to put it towards our first house for Drew. Ooh. The poor men are going to get together and buy a house from Drew. All right. Billy. Billy. I freaking love it. Billy. Thank you so much there. Underground Pinball, 97 biddies. Kaz, more biddies. You know what? We're going to have a house by the end of the night. All we need is like 10 million more biddies. We're over there. 20 billion biddies. All right. One house. So anyway, what else is going on? What makes you the banner week? So on top of that, and I kind of got that settled and everything's good, and I said my wife and I are ecstatic. Ian and I did something this week. We'll talk about it a little later, but we launched a little tiny website that we're a little proud of. We're proud of it. We'll talk about it. It's a thing. We're not going to make this the show hour or the show half hour. No, it's a show hour in 45 minutes. We're a full show. We are very proud of it, so of course we're going to talk about it. You know, it's just been a great week. Infomercial, Tim Lee. Jack Rabbit, thanks for the bits, buddy. We are definitely not going down that road. So why don't we just open the bar and get this thing rolling, man? Okay. You know, you get right to it. You've got to push buttons. Yep. Pushing them buttons for them biddies. Come in. Grab a seat. The bar is open. Either one would be sufficient. Yeah, Drew was saying it could be the shit hour, Kaz, or the shill hour. Either one. But the reason I kind of brought this up right now... Pillow block takes for the biddies! because it's rolling into what you're drinking today, Ian. What you're drinking? Well, my wife, as sweet as she is. She's a beautiful, lovely wife. She is beautiful, isn't she? She's lovely, too. She decided that we need a celebratory drink, so this is her gift for our stellar week. She's so proud of herself. She said, Ian, not only did I go to the liquor department at the local, it's a pretty high-end grocery store, But she went to the liquor aisle, and then it's actually quite a big section. But she not only just picked the prettiest bottle, she went on her phone and looked up all the reviews. And did research. And did some research for us because she was like, I want to get them a really good bottle of whiskey. And this was what she chose. So it is Basil Hayden's Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey. I don't know if you guys can see that. Probably not. But it's in a fancy little jacket. It's like dressed up as like a monk. Look, it's got a belt. Look, a belt clasp thing here going on. And then, yeah, it's got a little vest. But I'm going to get this guy naked. Maybe not. I don't know. Is there anything? You know what? Let's skip the getting the bottle naked. Let's just drink it. Does that sound good to you? Good plan. Good plan. Fire it up. That's the Rose that's drinking it. So what are you drinking today? We're drinking Basil Hayden's. Basil Hayden's afterbirth. What? I can tell where this show's going already. Who said that? So speaking of his wife, my wife has a... I get this Axl Rose thing going on. Ever since I... Hey, man, what's up? Ever since I even mentioned to my wife about them doing a show together, she asked me now like once a week, she's like, can Laura and I really do a show? We're like, yeah, we'll hand over the ring. She goes, can I make fun of you guys and everyone else in the pinball hobby? I said, go nuts. We literally don't give a shit. So I cannot wait for them to strap on the headphones and just give everyone hell. Oh, it'll happen. Maybe that should be... Oh, yeah. How is it? Cheers. Cheers. So here's to Basil Hayden, to us. To all of our listeners. To Basil Hayden's probably passed away. To all of our listeners and followers and everybody, we love you very much. Thank you for this great support this week. Thank you, guys. Yeah, it tastes great. You did good. It's fantastic. I will have to tell everybody. It's very smooth. Yeah, it is good. Ooh, it burns. Ooh, there is an afterburn there. That bourbon burn. Ooh, that is like a solid smooth. You're drinking water, but flavorful water. And then, boom, the burners come on to a high. Acid burners? Yeah, my chest is on fire. But, you know, my mouth, pleasantly cool. It's a very weird feeling. Can I test that out? Just blow in your mouth. And this is why. That's a good one. Okay. And this is why. How do you do that? All right. Do you want to know what's on tap today? What's on tap today? Do you want to know what's on tap, Ian? I don't care. I have the menu right here. I don't care. Whatever you want to do, man. What's on tap, baby? Woo! Sorry. Okay, Macho Man, Axl Rose. I don't even know what to call him. He's like every great 80s icon rolled into one something. Tap today. Keep going, brother. Tap today. We got poor man's pinball news. Drew has some very exciting news about Amazing Spider-Man. Can you believe that? I'm excited. Ian, do you have any exciting poor man's news? No. Okay. We have all the great pinball news brought to you by TWIP. TWIP, thank you. Jeff Patterson, thank you for letting us steal all your stuff and being a great sponsor of this wonderful sloppy show that we do. There's a new website in the pinball community. This is crazy. What? It was just my little ad Bob Libbe there. A little surprise. Crazy. We have a top five. A very fun top five. I'm really excited about this because I won't give it away right now. Oh, I gave it away. I put it on Facebook and stuff. Oh, okay. We're going to get the listeners' top fives, too. Oh, awesome. So, yeah, it'll be top five. Top five. Top five. Games we want to see on Zen Studios. Valley Williams only. Valley Williams. It can be a Valley game. It can be a Williams game. It can be a Valley Williams game. But that's a criteria. Yep. And it obviously can't be. It couldn't have been done already. And, you know, the deeper you think about it, the harder it gets because, you know, there's still a lot of grade A titles, quote, unquote. But there's also, you know, like Zen Studios will have, like, one grade A title, and then they'll have two that are somewhat like they'll be, like, a little obscured one. Just to give you guys a little preview, I think my top five, the average going price for them is like $2,500. Nice. Nice. Yeah, you could get almost all these games for under $3,000. Yeah. I'll double that. Zen Studios, you'll have it for eight. Yes, there you go. It'll be a lot cheaper at Zen Studios. Thank you for being a sponsor as well. Yeah, so it'll be fun. It'll be a fun one to do. All right. We're going to have our happy hour. Happy hour. I'm sure you guys will have questions, fun chat. We'll do what we do every week. It'll be great. Any pin swap questions, ask them here. Yep. Tell your friends. Yep. We've been getting a lot more people actually wanting to be in the tribe. Yes. We always kind of joke, like, the first 15 or 20 people, it was like it was still new to us, and we're getting people in, and we're asking people if they're excited about it, and most people were. But now people are coming to us, and how can I be a tribe member? How do I want to be part of this? They're sending us, like, poems and, like, you know, funny jokes. Threats. They're just threats. Yeah, a few of those. A few bloody jaggers in the mail, but Kaneda, we'll get you back. Why? Why? Why, Kaneda? Why? So, yeah, we're going to just – just a couple notes we got from people who want to be tribe members. We just want to give them a little shout-out because they're avid listeners, and we appreciate you guys and girls. New podcast, the Genius Segment, written by Glenn Glenn Waechter and Jonathan Hall. And Tim Lee. And Tim Lee. That'll be a great one. we're going to do a little bit more talk about the game room porn challenge that Ian gave out last week big time lots of submissions we're going to do one a week so if you don't see yours today it's ok we're just going to choose one a week and we're just going to go gaga over gamers and remember guys these don't have to be fancy million dollar houses we want to see where you play your games yeah this is going to be fun Then we get to talk about the games in your game room. And we want to see your jerk-off chairs and jerk-off stations. I want to see the stains. Yeah. Let's just do it. What movie was that from? Oh, I Love You, Man. Was that the one? I don't know. What's his name? The guy from How I Met Your Mother. And he goes, what? Jason Segel. Yeah. He goes to Paul Rudd, what, you don't have a jerk-off station? Because he had, like, this chair, and he had, like, his tissues and his lotion on the little table. Oh, okay. And, like, his weed. Yeah. And he goes, a jerk-off station? What the hell is that? Doesn't everyone have a jerk-off station? Oh, it's super funny. Don't you need the jerk-off station? Yeah. Look it up. Very funny. I think that movie was called I Love You, Man, right? Yeah. Is that right? Okay. And then finally, what did you learn today? So I'm sure we're going to learn a lot today, as we often do. Are we going to talk about some of the topics I brought up earlier? Which ones? JJP and their cable situation with the Cs. Okay, good. All part of news. How's that? News. Go for it, buddy. Okay, so we'll start with our four-man's personal pinball news. I just got one quick note because I'm really excited. P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-N. There's a lot of Ps there. One too many. One too many. So remember last week and the weeks prior, I was saying I was getting better at Spider-Man. I was always getting into the mini-wizard mode, and I almost got to the wizard mode a couple of times. Yeah, bragging a bit. Bragging a bit. I got to the wizard mode. Hey, that's cool. Twice. Twice? Twice. Yay! Congratulations, Drew. I'm going to give myself one of these. Cheese slices up. Cheese slices, bourbon. Well, this was exciting for me because I legitimately got to the wizard mode in Last Action Hero. Yep. I made it to the mini wizard mode in Iron Maiden. Never had a chance of seeing that wizard mode because you eat that when you're an ass. Oh, I'm the greatest player in the world. I'm just going to make this hard for everybody. Nothing personal. He doesn't return my calls. It is personal. Nothing personal. We love you, Keith. Yeah, and I just, you know, I play okay, but, yeah, I haven't gotten that far in a lot of games, and now I'm crushing Spider-Man almost on a daily basis. So maybe it's too easy. Who knows? Tim Lee, are you going to chime in? Like, did I play with the glass off or something, anything? No? Okay. CJ Seahand. Wait, Ian has turned into Drew of this episode? I turned into the Drew? What? Drew always turns something back to the Rose? What happened? All right, keep going. No, that's it, man. That's my big pinball of the week. No, that's good, man. That's awesome. That is great. So I am excited. And, yeah, I'm going to be putting up some of my own games on Pinswap soon. I was going to say my big news is, yeah, Oktoberfest is going to be up for rent, not because I don't love it, but because I just don't want to sell it. So now I can make a little bit of money with my Oktoberfest. I just don't play it as much as I wanted to. Like, I want to play it more. I just, time's a bitch. So, hey, man, I'm going to set it up for rent, make sure it's all good to go, and then I'm going to make some money and hopefully be able to pocket that away for something else. Kaneda, what's a good price for Oktoberfest? Don't ask him. Never mind, Kaneda. $83. We're moving back. For the year. We're moving back. All right. So that's it. That's what we got on tap, man. I'm excited. Good, man. Let's go. Let's get into the news. Good week. All right. Do-do-do-do-do. Do-do-do-do-do. News. Do-do-do-do-do-do. Wow. Wow. Stern raised the prices on Batman 60. Oh, we're going to go right here? I'm starting here. Oh. We're coming in hot. Man, fuck those greedy bastards. What is wrong with these people? What justifies the 500? All right. Sorry. Start over. Okay. Let the people know. They probably don't. So they all do. They all do. Batman 66 and A Virus House of Horrors, they raised the price $500, which in and of itself, as I often say, is fine. Fuck, shit ass. Shit ass. Sorry, my Tourette's kicked in. If you want to raise your price and every year you say this is the $100 or whatever, $150 increase, that's fine. But there were lots of people with orders. Yeah. They put in their order, they gave a deposit to their distributor, and then the distributor had to call them and say, here's the deal, I know you thought you were going to pay $8,000 for this thing, it's now $84.99. That kind of enrages me. Yeah, the fact that Zach on the pinball show was talking about how all the distributors, all their orders that they had in the queue, all got canceled. Yes, they just, you know what I mean? Everyone's like, no, talk to those guys, reorder, because now we need more money. And then you think about it, which gets me really pissed off. I mean, Batman 66 is a crane and a damn carousel. That was the big talk of the day. Annoying, right? Let's just compare apples to apples. I know it's a Kapow studio title. I know they're a little different. I know more people need to get money from that game. But you know what? I understand that. Hang on. Okay, sorry. Sorry. Ian's getting all riled up here. I got opinions. But to Ian's point about the crane, a virus house of horrors, how it has straight ramps, you know, there's not a ton in it. The house. Yeah, the house. But compared to any other Stern premium game, that build, I'm not a manufacturing expert, but that build cannot be more money. It just can't. No, no. That's where I'm kind of going with this, and that's what I don't understand. Stern's charging us for fucking rent on that damn thing. Sure, sure. I know CJC Hand is you. I know it. We know Chris Chandler is CJC Hand. Who else would be CJC Hand? I'm just relaying that so people at chat can follow along. So, anyway, keep going, Drew. No, it's bullshit, dude. If you look at Avengers Premium versus Elvira's House of Horrors, they probably cost the same to make, I would think. Oh, yeah. Why would one be different than the other? I don't know. It's so ridiculous. It's so ridiculous. I mean, how do you even, how can you, you can't mismanage it any worse. Like, they've been making, these aren't new games. They've been making them for a while now. Oh, they haven't been around for three years or something. They can't all of a sudden say, oh, you know what? Yeah, that flipper coil, that actually is way more expensive than we originally thought. Well, that's the thing. We need more money. They had all those parts in-house, probably. Absolutely. You know, it's like. They're a manufacturer. That's what they do, manufacturing. They have a whole warehouse of fucking Elvira castles and houses or whatever. What am I, paying the bitch rent? What is this $500 going towards? I will not be polite. I love you, Elvira. I will not be polite on this one. I will not be a stern apologist. Once again, I know they're there to make money. I know that's their job. I know they're not there to make me the lowest cost item possible. However, this was just, I'm just going to say it, Stern. I know you're listening to the show. Two thumbs down. No, I'm going to go one step further. That was a dick move. Dick move, Stern. What did Keith Elwin ask for a raise? Wait, wait. Did you guys just hear that? Drew. Drew just called it a dick move. Yeah, that guy. That's pretty hard for him. I'm this guy who's always like, right here. And now I'm like, fuck this shit. Me, I'm like, oh, holy shit. Sir needs to learn. It just leaves such a bad taste. Why can't they? They're manufacturing all the time, right? They're cranking out shit all the time. They are. If they want to bring out the next game and say, this premium costs $9,000, I honestly wouldn't have an issue with that. Right. If they made a new game now and they're like, hey, this is, you know, whatever, the new Simpsons game, and we're going to charge you $9,000 for it, or Lord of the Rings Vault, or whatever, right? Sorry, yeah. I'm mad. Well, because they would just say this is the price. No, I know. I get it. I get it. You know, and if you want to pay it, fine. If not, don't. It's less of a price gouge. It's less of an obvious price gouge. Yes, that's my point. Thank you. Thank you for showing up my emotions. I know. I know. I'm here for you, buddy. I'm here for you. I'm here for anyone who wants to complain about that because it's very. Does anyone think this move was positive? Yeah. What are the benefits to charging us and canceling orders and making us reorder? But much like the toppers, right? $1,000 topper comes out. We'll just have a topper. Yeah. Everyone bitches, right? But they sell out all the toppers. I get it. It's because those two are still extremely popular, right? Yep. That's all it is. People want Elvira's. As far as I understand it, now, we have had some people talk to us about Elvira, and I've talked to Zach about Elvira's, and Zach has told us multiple times that the two biggest questions he gets almost every day, can I order a Deadpool and can I order an Elvira? Those are the two. Sure, because, you know, I remember when Elvira came out, it wasn't received that well. Elvira was kind of lukewarm. It was like, yeah, it's cool. It's Elvira. Everyone loves Elvira. But the game itself, everyone was kind of like, eh, okay, Lyman's coding it, you play it, and you're like, yeah. It's going to get better. Yeah, it's going to get better. This is a fun game. It is fun to shoot. It is a good shooter. The code is great. So I'm – and I remember I was talking about getting one because I enjoy it a lot. We played it at Pinball Expo. Man, I miss Expo. But, yeah, that was so much fun playing that. Yeah, that was one of the big surprises of the Expo. You know, it wasn't like – I didn't dislike it, but I wasn't blown away by it. And then I didn't realize it was going to shoot as nice as it did. Man, it shot great. Fuck, I love Elvira. I love Deadpool, too. That also grows on me. With each passing day, I want a Deadpool. You can buy a Deadpool for less than $6,000, and it costs you $2,500 more for Elvira. So, put your rapid brainer on that one. All right. Let's see here. So, anyways, that's Tony Scoot-Stern is like, who's Drew? It's the extra franchise fee. That's the extra $500. Jack Rabbit, think about it. You go to buy a car and come to an agreement on the price. Then the dealer calls you and says, sorry, the price just went up on the car you agreed to buy. That's kind of what it is. I mean, yes, they didn't have a formal contract. So I understand that. Like, they're not bound to do anything because it's a handshake. But, oh, it's a handy that rubbed them the wrong way. It's just slimy. Just slimy. On location, pinball pod. even if they raise the price on the same game going forward and honor the price of the pre-orders, it would be okay. I would have been, you know, who said that? On location, PinballPod. Okay. PinballPod, on location, PinballPod. Yep. I agree with you wholeheartedly. Like I said, I've often said that. Like I don't begrudge them for making money and even charging a bunch of money. It might not be worth it, but if people are willing to pay it, fine. But what they did here was just kind of not a great move. Jackrabbit. I would walk away as a matter of principle. Fuck, yes, Jackrabbit, I don't care what they say about you. You got some balls, kid. But that's the problem, though. I'd like to talk to Zach and some of these other distributors and find out how many people actually said, you know, now I'm out. Now I'm out? Well, yeah, at this point, what's another $500? That's what I'm saying. They're already in it. They're thinking they're getting an $8,000 game. $8,500 at that point isn't that much. I get it, but it just leaves a bad taste. Turn and look at the secondhand market and see, oh, man, they're not selling. because they're keeping them. Well, the rumor is that, and then also the games that have gone up, they've sold for almost full retail because they can't. So they're like, hey, if they're selling for full retail use, well, shit, we can get another $500. That's nasty. Yeah, it's just nasty, Stern. God damn, Gary Stern sitting there in his evil tower like the emperor in Star Wars. Excellent. Wait, that's Burns. Didn't he say excellent? The emperor? No? Maybe not. I don't think so. I think that's Burns. It's all coming. I can't think of any emperor in line right now. Good. Good. There you go. There's an emperor in line. That was a hard one to think of. Yeah. Good writing. Good writing. Good. George Lucas is a great writer. Let's see here. Jaeger. That's Billy Y.J. Zach said only one person backed out. See? Well, that's your answer. Gasaholic. Going to force everyone to move their orders to food truck. Oh, food truck. Is that still a thing? Beep, beep. Yes. All right. What's next? Getting all worked up. Oh, there's a little website launch this week. Oh, we're going to go there. Cool, man. Yeah, yeah. What's it called? Pinswaprentals.com. Pinswaprentals.com. We're just getting giggled at. I know. We don't know. We're not chilling. We're not very good at chilling. No. We just think it's embarrassing to talk about ourselves. It is. But I just want to say that for the early adopters all the positive feedback that has come our way we really are humbled by so far This weekend has been great Yeah it was fun People just reaching out and people that we never spoke to before Yeah. And they said, wow, what a great idea. Yeah, we got a lot of love. A lot of love, a lot of positive notes. And some good feedback. Yes. A lot of good criticisms that were good, like good criticisms, like ones that we're actually going to implement and try to implement. So it's been really cool. Yeah. There were two guys on Pinside that they were Pinside guys. It is what it is. And they weren't nasty or anything. And so even some of their negative comments, there was some good constructive feedback in there. Yeah. Drew and I could take a lot of shit. So maybe probably red wrong for other people. But, no, we were good to go, man. We loved all of it. We enjoyed the criticism. We loved all the feedback. I would say it was, yeah, 90-10. Ian and I, people gushing about it. We were on the phone all day, him and I, back and forth, and our phones wouldn't stop blowing up. I mean, Facebook messages and texts and emails. Should we talk about it a little bit more on our show here? So pinballrentals.com, this was just a – Pinswap Rentals.com. Sorry, what did I say? Pinballrentals.com. All right, pinswaprentals.com. Sorry, it's the booze already. But, no, it was something that kind of came to us because we wanted to kind of include everybody. You know, this hobby is getting more and more expensive. The secondhand market. And we just got done talking about an $8,500. Yeah, the secondhand market is. It's not slowing down. It's so crazy. It's getting swords of fury. I saw some up for almost $4,000. It's getting a little nuts. And that one guy who sold that Gulfstream to a rookie for like $1,200, $1,500. and this thing was beat to shit, people. I was like, that's appalling. That's appalling. I was actually a little pissed off. Not that I didn't get it, but that he sold it to some rookie. Can that rookie flip it for that, or is people going to go all over on him and say, that's a $500 game, dude? Well, you know what they say now, though. Any game that works is worth at least $1,500. I mean, that's just kind of what it is. Crazy. There's some exceptions, but for the most part, games that are working. Well, at the end of the day, we wanted an alternative. We wanted something that was not really readily available. It's a good idea. I think it's available for everybody. It's very inclusive. If you own a game, put it up for rent, you know, make some money so you can buy more games. If you don't own a game and you can't buy a game, there's lots of options. Every day we're getting more and more games on there. and we're having quite a few discussions with some distributors and it sounds like there's going to be a big pouring of games coming up soon. But it's all been positive. I think it's positive for the people who have games that don't play them all the time, like my Oktoberfest. Sorry, I just want to interrupt you real quickly there. FD's Zombie Dog just said, he's talking about his Avengers. I'd let this yellow slut loose if people are nice to it. So Avengers L.E. North Dakota, you want it? I'll put it on Pinslot. Yep. Thank you, FG Zombie Dog. Tim, we're looking forward to that. Yeah, no, I think there's a lot, though, to be said about, you know, being inclusive, making sure everyone is comfortable with a transaction, right? So if you guys aren't aware, so kind of how it works, and I'm trying to make this as simple as I can. If someone is interested in your game, you guys have a dialogue. You know, this isn't like you're shopping and some guy who has terrible feedback wants to rent your game. And you have to rent your game. We gave the owners all the power. They set the price. They set the delivery schedule. They set everything, basically, because they're going to be the ones collecting the money, but it's their game. First and foremost, it's their game. So their game, their power, if they find out they drop off that game or if they're about to drop off that game and that house is a shithole or they're smoking or everything's broken or you just get a bad feeling, they can opt out at any time. There is nothing that says they can't opt out. Yeah, there's no penalties for opting out. So I want people to kind of understand that they do have the power. For the renters, the people who are going to be getting these games, it's your responsibility to make sure the games work. Make sure you talk to them, meet with them. Let them know, hey, I'm going to take good care of your game. Make sure you guys swap your contact information in case there's a stuck ball or something goofy happening with the game, because I don't want the people renting the machines going into them, right? Don't leave the key with them. Let them contact you, because I want you to have the power over your machine. I think that's fair. I mean, obviously, if it's somebody who has a lot of games or, you know. Again, it's totally up to the owner. But my recommendation is, you know, use your best judgment on it. We're all adults. But the last thing I wanted to kind of touch on is the insurance. A lot of people have questions about the insurance. Drew and I, we have other plans. But right now, as it stands, the $10,000 is on the machine only. If you rent your game through Pinswap, you have a $10,000 insurance Ryan Policky on that machine only. Okay? So what does that mean? We had some examples. You know, if it's in your car as you're going to deliver it and you get T-boned and the machine is destroyed, we'll help you with the money, the financial money to get, you know, money for that game. If that game, you know, if it just breaks in a catastrophic way or whatever, or if it gets stolen, that $10,000 is going to cover that, okay? and it's going to be based on the value of your machine, which every day goes up. Right now, think about it like, you know, for you people in the United States, you know, it's like having basic, like, that insurance that's good for, like, the ER. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's not a comprehensive, like, health insurance plan that covers every doctor visit and all that stuff. However, we are looking into better options that will cover more in the future. But we really want to get this thing off the ground and get some rentals under our belt. And like I said, your machines themselves are covered, you know, $10,000. So Cavalier 88C24, we have to deliver it. Well, the owners, I would prefer you guys either deliver it or you find a way, whether it's a third-party shipper or, you know, whatever you need to do to get it there safely. See, here's the problem. I want to avoid somebody coming into your home, grabbing a machine, and then hopping and throwing in the back of their pickup and then just driving. You know, I just, to me, I feel like that could lead to, unless you know the person. Sorry, Kaz says, what if the game is worth more than $10,000? You shouldn't rent it. This site is not for you. Don't rent it. We're telling you right now, don't put your HEP restore on this site. Yeah, don't do that. Don't do it. Don't do it. We don't want anything to do with it. Yep. You get $10,000, baby. That's it. Fuck it. But the delivery. Go ahead. Yeah, I just want to finish up on the delivery. I don't care how you work it out with them, the renters. As an owner, I feel like you should be able to make those decisions financially, how much you want in your pocket versus how much your time is worth to you. If you want to rent the game, free delivery included, $400, and you find a service on Craigslist or whatever, that is willing to haul games, well, and, you know, you pay them 50 bucks or 100 bucks, hey, that's all on you, man. That's good. Well, and we've been, a lot of people have been sending us messages and different things, as we said, and there were some people asking about that and that they provide some of these services. So we just told them, you know, just put an ad up just like anybody else, you know, and they'll do like regional. These are pinheads themselves who want to make some money. So they'll say, hey, you know, it'll cost $100 or $125 or whatever to pick up your game, drop it off, set it up, and then when it's time to return, you know, they'll go pick it up and then drop it back off at your house. Jesse J's in chat. Drew, you want to rub those nips? Hi, Jesse J. I missed you, girl. Hey, Jesse. But, no, and, you know, these are common questions, but, you know, like I said in that little commercial, It's like I want people who own these machines to treat it as a small business. You know, the more machines you have out, the more money you're going to bring in. And I want you to kind of go out there and market it a bit. You know, if you need to put those machines that you're for rent through Pinswap, if you want to put them on Facebook or Craigslist, do it, you know, and get some, you know, you can advertise too. We're working with Google right now to try to get it up on the Google search list. Rentals and pinball rentals. We're trying to get more and more marketing that way. It's a process. Trust me, it's a process. We're getting there, though. But there's a lot of things there that I think, you know, if you guys have taken on the majority of the money, I want you guys to treat this as a business. And I want you to definitely find what works best for you. Yeah, and if you are nervous about more insurance, you know, you can ask whoever's renting your game to show you a homeowner's Ryan Policky. I mean, you know, there's nothing, whatever you, whatever you think you need to do to make this work out for you. Yep. So that's, that's basically it guys. Those are the main major questions. But the big, the big thing I want to impress upon you is that this will be getting better as the weeks and months go on. Yes. Yes. Like everything about it from, you know, the way the site looks to just different links that'll help us out to adding features to the site and insurance, all that kind of stuff is just going to continue to get better. Yep, yep. And I think there's going to be more and more machines up there every day. And, yeah, it's going to be exciting. So it was nice seeing five games in San Francisco. So if you're in the San Francisco area, check it out. Yeah, right now, guys, there's almost 20 games already up there for rent and more on the way, and we're getting people signing up like literally every hour. So all we want from you guys, like I said, this is the only quote-unquote show and it's free, just go sign up for an account. You know, just your name and your email address. That's it. Yep, see what we got there, man. It's all free. Browse it. Give us all your feedback. Poormanspinballgmail.com. Just send it there. That's the best place. Use the contact me link on the site. That's where it goes anyway. So poormanspinballgmail.com. And, you know, we're looking at that stuff and we're having a lot of good conversations with people that know a lot more than Ian and I. Because we're smart dudes. I'll say it. But, you know. We put up a front for the show. Huge front. I roll up here in my Benz every day from my mansion. You think I own a bunch of these headbands, you know? I don't wear T-shirts that work. Yeah. Bro. Yeah. Anyways, no, that's the whole commercial, if you will, the show. So if you guys have questions, concerns, send them to the email. Yeah. I just want to give a nice shout out to David DeLuca. David DeLuga, he successfully rented a machine to a guy who streams on Twitch. He just started. He just started on Twitch. This guy rented a Jurassic Park Pro from David DeLuga, who I actually bought that Stingray from. That's how this whole thing kind of came about. It was very cool. And he's streaming that game. Yeah, he's streaming it. So Wind Raider. I'll spell it. Wind, W-I-N-D, no space, R-A-I-D-O-R. Check out his stream. He's got a good setup. It's him, and it's like a father and son. You know, he's got a young son there, and the camera's quality is really good. And I'm going to check out more of their streams, and he's in the area looking to rent more. So he's going to be renting. Him and I already talked about my Turtles. Yeah. That's going up there. He'd rather rent these games to stream than buy a bunch of games. So it's very cool. He'll have it for a month. So he'll play the hell out of it with his son. So I think it's a fantastic way of using the site. The first rental went so well. Yeah. It was Friday. Yeah. We put everything up. Sunday. Get our first rental. So it was super cool. Yeah. Very cool. So check it out. Let us know. Drew better stream Spider-Man because there's no way he got to Wizard Mode twice. I don't even have to read that. I know who that's from. Tim Lee. Or should I call you Tim Ass Lee? Yeah. You know what, Tim? Tim, I'm going to. You know what? I am going to stream it just for you. Yep, there you go. I'm going to go spend $1,000 on streaming equipment just to prove you right. Just to show it in your face. Tim would be a good streamer. I'd watch Tim's streams. Oh, yeah. Tim would be good. Yeah. Tim's okay at some things, his wife tells me. All right, what else we got? So the Arcade 1-Up that half of the hobby was looking for, those new pinballs from Arcade 1-Up, right? there was a cargo ship from china 1900 containers got damaged there was like some rough waters it's fucked up a lot of the arcade one cabinets so those things are toys so now anyway they're not very durable so no one quite knows yet but new delivery dates in february have shown up on gamestop's website per twips website so that's what's happening it is what it is i want to get one but how fucked it that's like your whole shipment this whole big boat and you run some rough waters and they all just get fucked up. That's just shitty. That's just shitty. It could be worse. They could have been taken by Somali pirates and then all of a sudden we see Somalia with a thousand one-ups. We're playing football. It'll look like our guy in our POSCAT t-shirt. Yes, that's him. Indonesia. Speaking of which, people say that POSCAT t-shirt is bringing them good luck on tournaments. Oh, I love it. I fucking love it. It is so funny. Everyone's undefeated wearing that stupid shirt. I hate you all. Not sometimes. Most of the time when I say, hey, Ian, I think we should do this, he usually just goes like this. I don't think that's a good idea, Drew. And that's 90% of the shit I say to him. And that was another one. I'm like, Ian, I'm like, people, we talked about this shirt a bunch. We made jokes about it. People love it. They're going to buy it. And he goes, what did you say? Like, oh, that's just so Bush League or something. and I'm like, no, dude, we're going to put this shirt up. It's not spelled right. It's terrible art, and we're going to do it. And what did it do? It was our best-selling T-shirt of all time. Yeah. In like a matter of like three days. It was terrible. Yeah. You know, we went months with some of these other ones. Like, you know, we'd sell one a month, two a month, five a month, whatever. You know, we'd get them trickling in. This one, it's like Jeff sending us a message from Twip. He's like, yeah, I think you guys just sold like 25 of these T-shirts. Yeah. I will say that everybody that bought one of those, you're dead to me. But limited edition, baby. They're still for sale. February 31st. That's coming up to the end here. Go to Silver Ball Swag. Silver Ball Swag. SilverBallSwag.com. I don't mind showing that at all. Under the poor man's tab and the PazCast shirt. I've got to get one. I'll get one. Find the shirt. I'll get one. Find the shirt. It's limited. It's limited. We're never going to release it again, so get all you can. We can't release it again until we send another email and say, we're never going to do it. I won't do it. I won't do it. It will never happen. Trust me, guys. That's how we'll get deleted. Jeff, can you extend this to February 31st? And there's the coffee mug. The coffee mugs I use every day. I love the coffee mugs. They're great coffee mugs. Oh, they are. Yeah, here we go. Oh, see? Oh, you want a PazCast coffee mug. I do. I do. That's going to be the next limited edition thing. we'll see the whole line. I'll think about it. Vera's going to a nice college. I'll think about it. We just got to sell another 10,000 of those mugs. Anyways, thank you guys for the support. We appreciate it. Absolutely. Everything goes to a good cause. Don't raise the price after I buy it, says Jack Rabbit. Anyone who has an order for a podcast t-shirt, they're now $300. I see in chat Dave Jeff Brenner's in there. Dave, what's up, brother? Dave signed up for Pinswap, and he put his Stargate. Stargate, yeah. Yeah, so if you guys want to Stargate in the Racine, Milwaukee area, Dave Jeff Brenner, who is a stud at fixing games, so you know that game's going to be playing top notch. I played that game. It is for rent. So check that out at pinswaprentals.com. I have no idea how to make money, so, like, I saw that game right away. I'm like, I should just rent that. Yeah, yeah. Now, there's a few games I want to rent. I'm like, hold on, Ian. Hold on. Focus on getting the site to work better. Yes. Cool. I can rent this game. Awesome. I just made a site so I can rent games. Evil laughter. All right. So what else is going on in there? Oh, everyone's heard. I'm going to give the Pinball Hall of Fame its due. So if you guys haven't heard about this, the Pinball Hall of Fame in Las Vegas, they've been around 100 years. Tim Arnold's a little polarizing. Some people, you know, say he's a little abrasive. He's just an old guy who loves pinball. One of us. One of us. But he does a fantastic job. He's been restoring and fixing these games for literally 50 years or something. And they were moving to a new site on the Strip in Las Vegas. They had a loan secured, and then they thought even with COVID, they would still have enough money coming in so they could finish this project. Well, now they're towards the end of the project, and unless they come up with something like, I think it was half a million dollars, the contractors, you know, they just won't be able to move in, plain and simple. So now they're stuck because they're like, like I said, they're 90% complete. They're ready to kind of get going with this thing, but they need the money to get in there. And so there's a couple of shares I made on my page, Poor Man's Pinball fan page. Every social media thing we're on. So just look it up. There is a GoFundMe for the Pinball Hall of Fame. I recommend everyone give $10, $15, whatever you can give. It's just, you know, it's kind of like a landmark in this hobby. $200,000 is the GoFundMe goal. Okay, there you go. Thank you. Thanks, Rachel. Thank you very much. So anyways, just think about them, you know, instead of buying that cup of coffee. Raise the price $500. Okay, give them $500. That's cool. So I will be making my donation. I'll post that. And 42,000 is raised so far. Okay. Well, we got a lot of ways to go. We got 160 grand to go. A lot of rich people. Come on, guys. Come on. All the rich people that listen to the Poor Man's Pinball Podcast. Where are you? Crickets. Crickets. We relate to the rich. They wear headbands, right? Axl Rose is rich. Boom. All right. Anyway, I'm done with that. Some funny tweets came in a little later. Sorry, sorry. Not tweets, but on chat when we were talking about the POSCAST coffee mug. Jack Rabbit said, don't raise the price after we buy it, you know, after they buy it. Tony Scoots, it's the Ruby Red POSCAST shirt edition. Oh, yeah, we could do every color. We could do, like, the emerald green, the yellow brick road, the ruby red. I will order a POSCAST shirt if it is limited because the FOMO is real. It is. It's really wide-shaded. FOMO is real. All right, man. What else we got? Well, that's about it for news, man. Is it? Yeah. How about Jersey Jack? Oh, yes. Why don't you talk about that? Yeah. So the Pinball Network, the Pinball Show, Zach and Dennis were talking about this, so I'm going to steal from them, shamelessly. They're talking about how the Guns N' Roses CE shipped. Back in the roll! and they shipped without the cable that connects the topper, light show, speaker thing. The speaker system in the topper. Into the game. Yes. That cord was not shipped. So Jersey Jack panics, right? And in a rush, they grab the cords and they ship them out to everybody that has the CE, and they're the wrong fucking cord. Can I say it? The wrong fucking wiring harness. Okay. Jersey Jack has been kicked around so much this week, so I'm not going to really lay it down. When Zach said that, I was crying. I was dead, Zach. I was dead. God bless you. The second, okay, the first part of that, I could say it sucks, but it's like I get it. The second part of that, that's inexcusable, right? If you want to hear Dennis Kriesel's head break, you've got to listen to the show, because Dennis Kriesel starts, there's a pause before he starts laughing. You can literally hear his brain break. It's like, okay, somebody there, quality control, packers, whoever, somebody screwed up. Fine. That happens. We're all hanging in. I picture someone pointing at a box on a top shelf somewhere. He's like, yeah, that box. And then the guy points at the one just below. That box? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that box. And then, boom, they grabbed the wrong box. Wiring harnesses, baby. So somebody screwed up, made a mistake. It's an honest mistake. It's not the end of the world. But then to fix the mistake, they send out the wrong cables. Like, ooh, that's harsh. That's bad. That's bad. Yeah. There's no answer, but. What's worse, that? I was going to ask you. We're so smart. Okay, go ahead. Ask me. What's worse, that or raising the price $500 like Stern did? I can't believe you asked me that question. Yeah, definitely Stern's. Definitely. One's an honest mistake and they fucked up the correction part of it. You can rest easy tonight. Yeah, you're fine. You're not, yeah. You're fine. Jersey Jack, I'll give you a hug later. It's fine. Jersey Jack, no, the next move Jersey Jack will make, they'll say. Yeah, sorry, we finally found the right cable. It'll cost you $500. Tim Lee, my GNR came with a European plug. Is he fucking around? Tim, yes, it was European. I Googled it when it arrived just to make sure what it was. European plug? Like a power plug? So you couldn't plug it in? Did you have to get a different plug? Tim, Tim. Tim. Come on. Details, buddy. You're the detail guy. All right. So anyway, what else we got? Oh, the other thing. What was the other thing I wanted to talk about? Oh, the $500 raise. Yeah, that was it, man. That's it for news, guys. You don't tune in here for news, though, do you? No. They tune in. They tune in to see us get drunk and yell at Stern for raising Princess $500. Fuck you, Stern. God damn you, Stern. That's fucking bullshit. Get your shit together, man. That's my angry. I still like the idea of Keith Elwin asking for a raise in Deer's terms. Like, fuck it, $500. We got to pay the man. $500 on the other two games. We got to pay the guy. So blame Keith Elwin. Damn you, Keith Elwin. All right, so anyway. I almost think Keith Elwin works for, like, minimum wage, and he just goes, I don't care about the money. I don't do it for the money. I do it for the fans. That's how I feel. No, no, he was a different fan. Yeah, I was going to say, Keith Elwin's like, I just love pinball. I do it for the silver ball. And then he rides away on his horse. Why does he have a horse? He is such a unique individual to me because he seems so mellow and stuff. He's the greatest pinball player in the world. Now he's one of the greatest designers in the world. He's so humble, and he's just like, yeah, it's cool. All right, sweet. He's just a mellow, chill dude. 10-inch penis. You don't need to do much. Yeah, true enough. You know trajectory when you have that kind of thing. You know what you got. You know angles pretty good when you're drunk and trying to pee. When you got a fire hose between your legs. It's my protractor. Yeah, you know exactly where you need to shoot. Is that a protractor in your pants? I'm sorry. No, that's my 10-inch penis. Sorry, you. Never mind. Let's keep going. Let's move on. Moving right along. Should we do top five? What do you want to do? Yeah, we can do top five. Or do you want to do a happy hour first? Let's do top five. Top five. You guys want to hear this cool, awesome top five we have going on here? Top five. Here we go. We'll play the intro. One, two, three. And now it's time for everyone's favorite top five. All right. Today's top five, top five games you would love to see in a Zen Studios lineup. Games that have not been released, Bailey Williams only. But that's it. That's the only requirement, Bailey Williams top five. Drew, you got a good top five? I do. You said it's under, basically under three grand, huh? A lot of them. Yeah. Close to. Yeah, one of them. No, only one of them's over four that I know of. Yeah. Yeah, I would say my average is about three, maybe 335. We have a slight update, folks. Tim Lee said, yes, the power plug was European. European? I'm a peon. Everyone's a peon. They actually had to use a computer plug. Bullshit, Tim. That sucks, man. All right. So anyway, let's go into our top five. All right. Top five games that should be on. We would like to see on Zen Studios. One, two, three of these games I might purchase for myself. I would like all these purchased, actually. Yeah, maybe all of them. Okay, go ahead. What's your number five? Number five. Number five. It's a classic game. It's one of the best shooters. It's got arguably the coolest topper out there, and it's done by none other than Pat Lawler. Can you guess? I almost lost it. Whirlwind. Whirlwind. Number five. Whirlwind. I think Whirlwind would be super fun. It would translate well. I like the picture that Zen Studios is doing like a tornado or something. But there's not too much on there where it would get lost, you know, because the problem with Zen Studios and all virtual pinball is that there's too much on the screen. It gets kind of weird, and you lose the ball. It's hard to track the ball. But I think Whirlwind would be a fun game, be a good shooter, and it would be a chance to play Whirlwind whenever the hell you want. Number five, Whirlwind. That's awesome. Yep. So my number five is a game that I'm a little surprised I haven't owned, and I should own one of these days. Just a super cool game. The movie kind of sucked, but the game is very well known, and Jesse J will be proud. Shadow. Shadow. Great. Because, like, more people just need to experience the shadow, I think. My number four is the shadow. Oh, is it? Yes, number four, the shadow. I say the shadow because, one, the shots and layout are fantastic. Two, I would love that upper play field in the virtual setting would look kind of cool. Three, I think it would be cool to have the shadow like the alternate auric back glass shadow with the red scarf. I like to see him in kind of like an animated form you know running around on the thing That would be super cool No and I think the colors and the call and everything would look really good on that pinball machine on Zen Studios So yeah good call man What's your number three? Number four, you mean? Your number four, Shadow. I'm on number four now. Your number four. One game that I definitely will own one day, and I'll hopefully restore one, put a hard top on it maybe, Swords of Fury. Swords of Fury, nice. Little Iron Man. Iron Man. Another game, cool upper play field. Yeah. A lot of neat shots. Very cool game. Yeah. The only real argument, the only downside of that game that people say, like the two little spinners that are up front, they're not really utilized for much. You know, you don't get a lot of points. I think the, yeah, I think just in general the rules aren't really favored. No, no. Like the rules. It's a cool layout. It's a fucking great shooter. Yeah, it's just a fun game. Besides Baywatch, dude, that was like the surprise of the show over at MGC when we were playing Sons of Fury. We were just like, no, dude, play it again. Yes. Yes, I get it. I get it. Sons of Fury. We thought he was saying Iron Man for a while there. And then you hear it and you're like, all right, that's Lion Man. We didn't know much about it. Fucking Lion Man. Iron Man, yeah. Lion Man. All right. Super cool. Love that game. So my number four, I just want to see this in the artwork. I only did one. Oh, yeah, my number three. Sorry, I didn't do it like a list. Sorry, it's all over the place. I got a jumbled. Look at my scratch work. See, it's not working. Oh, nice. Sorry, number three. I see that I have four circled. So my number three is Gorgar. And I think a Gorgar would be fantastic on Pinball FX because I love the artwork on Gorgar. I love the back glass on Gorgar. I would like to see Gorgar interact on the play field in a 3D kind of model. You went about this with all the 3D stuff. I didn't even think of that, but you're right. No, super cool to have Gorgar. Just to add to, you know, it's a simple layout. It'll look good on Pinball FX, but it will also, like, you know, the artwork will be a punch, you know, and then having those little bit of effects that Pinball does, Pinball FX do, I think it's great. I think it'll be fantastic. It'll kind of help update it a little bit, but still keep it true to what it is. So Gorgar. I'd love to play Gorgar all the time on there. No, I agree. That is a good game. Not my number three, but you're going to like this one because this is what I know is a fan favorite of Ian's. I thought about purchasing one of these. I look at them from time to time because I told you I'm kind of in the market for a $3,000 to $4,000 Bally Williams pin. So this is sweet that we're talking about it because Shadow's on that list, and this one is definitely in that price range. Diner. I hate that game. The most stereotypical game of all time. I hate that game. That game's sound effects kill me. The shots are amazing. You love playing it, though. The layout is absolutely fantastic. But the clinking dishes. The theme is bullshit, and the clinking dishes can go right to hell. Fuck that game. I know there's a lot of people that like Diner. Yeah. I get it. Yeah. It's a great shooter. Don't get me wrong. The flow is fantastic. But fuck the clinking of that. Those plates can kiss my ass. But, yeah, good job, Diner. Good job. Hey, just for fun and trash. See, I'd rather have roller games than Diner. We're getting there. Okay. Just for fun, though, in chat. So, Diner. Let's give you three. Diner. Can I do it? Yep. Diners, Swords of Fury, or what was the third one I was thinking of? Shit, I lost my train of thought. Diner, Swords of Fury. The Shadow? No, that would win out. Bad Cats? Mousing Around. Mousing Around, okay. So, those three games, guys, go. Not the order, just your favorite one of those. Jackrabbit. I like Roller Games and Diner. Man, listen, Diner's great if I had headphones on. So once again, Swords of Fury, Diner, or Mousing Around. All right, go. I have Swords of Fury. Okay. Swords of Fury all day long. Okay. We got one for Diner, one for Swords of Fury. Okay. What's your number two? You got number two, right? Yep. What's your number two? my number two is a game that's pretty rare well rare enough it's rare enough and i think it's bright it's fun it's oh rachel says mousing around i'm thinking about getting one like i said i want a swords of fury i want a mouse around go ahead no fuck you go ahead talk about mousing around it's all about drew let's talk about you it is drew's hour get used to it my number two is something bright, it's fun, it's very 80s and 90s, and it's not really readily available, and that's Radical. I would love to see Radical in pinball effects form. Will you quit, like, jumping in my brain? Why? Because that's my number two. Ah! What a fucker. Radical would be great, wouldn't it? You know, I never... You didn't play it at Expo, right? No, I didn't. Oh, you missed out. I never gave it a single look until Zach Mennie started using his jerk-off station to talk about Radical. He loves that station. Zach Mennie says, hey, I'm in my jerk-off station, Radical. And I'm like, okay, cool. And I looked into it. That game is fucking awesome. Dude, that game plays like a champ. I watched some streams. I checked it out, and I was just like, this is awesome. Yeah, they should get it on Pinball FX, open up the world to it. Yes. Because that would be good. Radical is killer. Okay. And if there was one up for rent, I would rent it instantly. Oh, yeah. For sure. For sure. What's your number one? Let's see. My number one, I'm a homeboy. It's out of my price range. Did I say homeboy? I meant homer. I'm a homer. I love this game so much. I love the movie so much. I would love to own it so badly, but it's way, way out of my price range, and that is Indiana Jones. Indiana Jones, the pinball adventure. It's not a price range. Dude, I don't have 10 Gs for a fucking Indiana Jones. You don't need 10 Gs. I need about nine. Everyone, someone sells it for nine, they get the price police like crazy. I mean, what do those really end up selling? Nine. What do you guys think? Yeah, what is it? What is it? I don't want to say pristine, high-end restore. What is a nice player's condition or semi-restored Indiana Jones go for? Oh, boy, Ian. Sorry, Clint. Homeboy Ian. Yeah, I don't know why I'm not Homeboy Ian. Listen, I'm a homeboy. I'm a homeboy. Homeboy. With my bandana. My bandana. And my cool wristband. I'm doing it. Oh, whatever. I'm at the Rose, bro. Yes. My initials are DB, but I'm sitting next to the DB right here. Yeah, you got it. You got the joke. I know the things. You know what? Fuck you, too. Indiana Jones, killer. Radical, Glenn the Skateboarder, can get behind that. Thank you, Glenn. Killer, Andrew, Radical, and Indiana Jones. That's a killer one-two punch. Okay. Hey, look. Indiana Jones, 6K. Fuck. I'm telling you. No, I'm saying there are ones out there for $7,000 that I probably paid for. My buddy just sold one in for $6,000. Yes. All right. No. Okay. You could sell Oktoberfest and scrape together some money and buy an Indiana Jones. All right. Maybe I will. I would love that. I would love that, too. All right, go for it, dude. What's your number one? It's just for you. Roller Games. Roller Games? Yeah. Roller Games. Yeah. Roller Games. Here's the thing. I just want to go on the record here. Oh, fucking cool. I like Roller Games just fine. Like, I don't love it. I don't think it's, like, a super great game. It's a super great game. I like Roller Games, and I know how much Ian loves it. There's nothing wrong with it. No, it's a great game. It's a perfect game. If you could say, Drew, what is a perfect pinball machine? Go. Spimps and Spinball. You're wrong. It's roller games. Laser war. You're wrong. It's roller games. It's always been roller games. A nice Indy will be $7,500 to $8,000. That's what I'm saying, Kaz. Yeah, that's in your price range. You could do it. I just played roller games for the first time. It was fun. Thanks, Tim. Rocking roller games. Jackrabbit knows it. Yes, Roller Games. It's the perfect pin. No, it's great. It's the perfect price. No, it's great. It has the perfect amount of shit in it. It's the perfect artwork. It's the perfect call-up. Okay, hang on. It's the perfect sound package. So here you go. Guns N' Roses could learn a thing or two about a sound package. I've never played Guns N' Roses. Entertainment for dollars? It's perfect. Because like you said, I mean, what, you get a nice one for $2,500. You made me so happy today. And, yeah, thank you for this, man. Good, man. You're number one. Good. I love it. You know, honorable mentions. Here's some of the honorable mentions I had. And we can kind of talk about it, but there's reasons why I said no. So the first one was Twilight Zone, right? I would love Twilight Zone on there, but I am worried that there's so much shit in Twilight Zone that it wouldn't, like, translate well in a digital form. Well, Ian was talking earlier about, like, Whitewater on there. It's not great. No, it's hard. It's hard to play. It's hard to, like, track the ball because of the way it's just, yeah. There's a lot going on in the Twilight Zone. I don't think it would go well. Adam's Family. I like Adam's Family, but everyone's played Adam's Family a million times. I think to your point, though, some of the single-level games, they probably just translate better just because of the nature of the game. I'd like to see Congo, if I was going to put them. Number six would be Congo. Congo was on my list. I'll call that an honorable mention, too, because I made a list of about ten. Yeah, Congo was great. And Congo's that game. It wasn't that long ago we got into this. You could have got one for $3,000. I looked today just for fun. $6,000. They have doubled in price. Yeah, people are asking stupid money. Pinball Doc, I played it digital today. Twilight Zone sucks virtual. Yeah, yeah. It wouldn't work. It just wouldn't work. One that would work is T2. That was an honorable mention. T2 would be a good one. The only reason I didn't say that is because I like my top five a little bit better. But T2 is a great game. That would be great digital. And then I had Roller Games. So thank you for thinking of me, but roller games would be a fantastic one, too. What do you guys think? What should be a Bally Williams game? There's a lot of good ones. Should we read some of our... Dave Jeff Brenner, what would you like to see on there? You're a Bally guy. He's a Zachariah guy. Oh, do you see Zachariah's got some digital play now, too? Mm-hmm. It did? Mm-hmm. It's called AT Games, I think. I think that was the name of it. That was on Twip, too. Go to This Week in Pinball and check out all the great news that Jeff has. We're not going to rip him off for everything. And since we're plugging, let's plug our boys over at TurboGrafx-7. I feel like it's been a while since we plugged them. They have been rolling. They have been just kicking some serious ass. They stream. I feel like it's more than just Friday now because Dave's on there, and he's streaming on Facebook. Oh, Dave's doing it almost daily. Yeah, he's streaming on Facebook. Dave, you're doing a fantastic job. So here are some of the ones that we got on Facebook. Look, ready for these top fives, Drew? All right. Cosmic Gunfight, Bad Cats, Comet Fire, exclamation point. You know Fire. Oh, Fire, yeah, yeah. And Jungle Lord. I don't know about Jungle Lord. I don't know about, I don't know Fire as well. But Bad Cats, fuck yes. Bad Cats is awesome. Jeremy Schmidt's Taxi. See, I thought of Taxi. Mm-hmm. I just, yeah, it'd be fine. I don't know. Taxi is something you guys got to experience live, though. I just feel like. Taxi is such a good game. There's a reason why it's good, and I feel it wouldn't translate well to digital. That's why I said no to taxi. Like, it's a good game to play live. NBA Fast Break. That's a good one. Chris Chandler. High Speed, Whirlwind, Taxi, Earthshaker would be a good one. Yeah. Earthshaker. I'm a huge fan of Earthshaker. That's a good game, man. I just love that game. And then T2. Brian Cosner. He's being a fucker here, but I love him. Bugs Bunny birthday ball. Thank you. Nope. Hard body. Yeah, I do hard body. Fuck yeah, I do hard body. Oh, you know what else is in my honorable mentions? Future Spa. Yes. That would be awesome. Future Spa would be good. Hard body. Somebody recently on one of the forums on Facebook Marketplace or whatever, they posted a beat up, I think it was Custom Pinball, and they posted a beat up Future Spa. Because a lot of people re-theme those because there's a lot of them and whatever, and they're beat up. Somebody rethemed a future spot in the Gremlins. Perfect. And it was pretty good. It looked awesome. So, anyways. Hyperball? No. Spy Hunter? No. MotorDome? Oh, what about Road Kings? Road Kings is another one I just wanted to play, though. It worked. It worked well. I still want to restore one. The price is right on them. Billy Y.J. Nope. Never mind. He's just commenting on how Frank Coss is being a jerk. Glenn Glenn Waechter. Thanks for the bits, Scoots. Highland Globetrotters. Hot Doggin'. Hot Doggin'. The super wide body Hot Doggin'. Hot Doggin' and Skateball would be awesome. Skateball is his next one. Yeah. Viking Medusa. Yeah. I'm not familiar. No, those are just those beautiful looking games. Medusa, Viking, Mystic. Voltan Escapes Cosmic Doom. I don't know that one. I don't know that one. Judge Dredd would really work. Judge Dredd would be good. That would be cool. That was also kind of what I was thinking. Johnny Mnemonic, Demolition Man, Congo, Mousing Around, Jackbot. So, yeah, Glenn got – we did all right on Glenn's eyes. Jackrabbit, Harley Davidson. Ooh, I don't know, man. I played that game in real life, and I wasn't impressed. Let's see. Transporter, fan of Skateball. Yeah, Skateball's badass. Thanks, Dave Jeff Brenner. Let's see here. Williams Games, Solar Fire. All right, Dave Jeff Brenner. Let's see. I'm just looking at some of these other ones here. Is that JM? Is that Johnny Mnemonic, I think? Yeah. No, that's faster than M, dude. No, it's faster than M. Mnemonic? Yeah. Okay. Silent M. I think that's Johnny Mnemonic. All right, cool, man. All right, well, that's it, man. That's top five. Homeboy Glenn can say as many as he wants. Yeah, homeboy can do whatever you want, homeboy. I love you, homeboy. Hey, man, we're going to drop this off at the bar sometime this week, okay? I'm sorry it's taking so long. But first I'm going to take a European piss in it. Yes, we're going to give it the old one, too. But all right, well, cool. Hey, man, successful top five. That's a good top five, guys. That was a fun top five. Because it can't be the top five greatest games because there's a reason they don't have a translator. I like the top fives better like this, where it's like, you know, what do you want to see now? Yes. Like, what do you think are the best five? You know, whatever. I mean, this is what I want to see, and I think it was a really good discussion. And, fuck, it pisses me off. I have these great games at home, but, like, you know, some of them I don't play very much. And I'm like, I could get any of these games we just talked about. Yep. I could just, tomorrow, I could just get anything I want. Why am I not doing them? I know. It's the hobby, man. Oh, I'm married. I forgot. It's a hobby. Yeah, that's part of it. So I'm toying with some segments, so you guys let me know what you think, okay? I'm just going to let it out here with everyone here because this is great. So a couple of segments I want to start doing. Are you listening? I'm sorry. You're talking to me? I thought you were talking to them. I'm talking to everybody. Okay. So one of the segments I want to start doing, what did my wife bitch about this week? It was pinball related. Okay? Bring it out to everybody? Yep. Yep, that's one. What did the spouse say to you this week? And then the other one is kind of the opposite. What little pinball white lie did you tell your wife this week? You ready for this? So I'll start it off. I'll give you an example, okay? So here's the thing. So it would be like, you know, we'll have Martin. Oh, I told my wife a little white lie. You know, it would be a little intro. Yeah. It would be like, what did you tell your wife this week? Well, I went to go pick up that Stingray, right? Yes. And she goes, really? You're bringing another game home? And I said, yes, honey. I need this one for parts to fix my meteor that's still in charge. What a whammy. Well, technically, they're both Stern Electronics. She doesn't know that shit. But they all use the same parts. It doesn't. How are you? It works. How are you? How am I still married? I don't know. No, how are you, like, trying to, you know, make, trying to convince me, motherfucker. You could have given her like fucking Deadpoolman like parts for the meteor. That's coming next. She wouldn't give a shit. That's coming next. She'd give a shit, but she wouldn't know the difference. Oh, I know. Oh, honey, don't worry. They're both steward electronics. I know. I know. She thinks. Blah, blah, blah, blah. I'll just take a Sharpie. Jack, I asked you to call it. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, whatever. Okay. So very cool, man. Very cool. Speaking of made up segments, let's go into our game room. Game porn segment, huh? We don't have any music for this one. What do we have here? Game room music. What do we got? Join Ian and send the new local streamer my way. Yeah, no worries, man. Yep, we'll do that, Dave. All right, so let's go into... I don't have any music for this. I wish we did. Let's just do... It's all these balls bouncing around. There we go. So today's feature, I wish he was on chat so we can give him all shit. But this is, we weren't going to, all right, here's the background, okay? So we weren't going to do a Game Room Porn Edition today because we got a lot of entries, but it was already too late. But one picture came through, and I just cracked up. And Drew was like, I was like, Drew, why don't we do the one, and he already knew what I was talking about, and that was Rich Fuck Ian, and Ian Hauerwer, he sent us this picture, and then the caption only read, I'm not very organized. Yes, it's beautiful. So let's all laugh. It reminds me of me. Like I said, it looks like my room. No judgments. No judgments. This is all world best friends having a good time with this, and if you are listening to this on the podcast, this segment doesn't do much for you. You might want to go on Twitch to see this, but we'll talk about all the games in his collection because he does have a good collection. Yeah, Glen O says, you need game porn music? Yeah, we do. Boom, she came out. Oh, wow. Sure, game porn music. We should do the love letter too. All right, so here we go. Ian Hauer wears game room. This is the pic he sent us. Let's be nice, but let's also be funny, guys. Ready? Oh! Well, I'm doing surgery here. All right, so I'm going to try to explain the situation here to those who are listening. So Ian Howardworth streams. So he's got a streaming set up, set up on, I'm not even sure what game that is. It's got Red Armor on it. It's The Walking Dead. Or is that Star Trek? This one? Yeah. Oh, shit. I'm fucking it up. Yeah, I don't know what that game is. Anyone know what that side art looks like? Anyway, so he's got 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 pins in a small room. smallish room about the size of this room actually our bar here but he is currently to be fair it looks like he's currently restoring a game and I've been following it for a while I forgot what game he's redoing so he's got the table in the middle of the room with the with the the game he's restoring turned upside down he was doing a playfield swap brand new playfield So, yeah, he's doing that. Thank you, Drew. But he's got the wires from that, that. It's just a disaster. And you know what made me laugh is in the background there's a whirlwind, and that's what looks like what happened here was a whirlwind. But I will say this, man. That's a joke. He turned on whirlwind. Turn it off. Turn it off. Yeah, yeah. But let's go through some of these games, though. He's got the multi-morphic system. We know Ian Hauer is killing it with the multi-morphic. He does a lot of streams with multi-morphic. And he has heist, lazy lightspeed. Lazy Lightspeed. You didn't hear it from me first. Lazy Lightspeed, Canyon Lagoon. Canyon Lagoon. Canyon Lagoon. Yeah. He has like four or five games. Yeah. And he loves it. You know, if you have any questions about the P3 system without being sold it, you know, that's the guy you want to talk to. He's very honest about the game and what he likes about it and what he doesn't like about it. But fantastic. I want one. But, you know, again, that's down the road. The next game we're having a hard time figuring out. Do you guys know what that is, that red one? Did we figure that out in the chat here? Yeah, definitely. You can see the yellow card, so it's definitely a Stern game. Woz? Oh, that is Woz. Yeah, Woz. There you go, Woz with the red armor. Fliptronic. All right, good job. Thanks, Fliptronic. Green one. Ghostbusters? Godzilla? Yeah, there's not a ton of green games. Yeah, sorry, we don't know. Whirlwind, I can't zoom in, so I'm sorry. Yeah, Fireball Classic, it looks like. And then... There's some games without back glasses. You know, he's got all sorts of things going on. Total Nuker Annihilation, Metallica, Star Trek. Yep, and Star Trek. Good lineup, man. Good lineup. I mean, out of these, you know, Star Trek is fucking... It's a masterpiece. Obviously, Wizard of Oz is a masterpiece. TNA is a masterpiece. Metallica is a masterpiece. I miss my fucking Metallica. You know, Whirlwind is a masterpiece. I mean, he's got a great collection here, you know. What did you say, Drew? Oh, yeah. I mean, there's nothing wrong with that collection. That's one that, you know. Dave Jeff Brenner, holy moly, lots of projects going on. You know what, Dave? Wait, Dave, did you just say that? Dave. Dave, you do projects on your TurboGrafx stream every day. Kaz, looks like a potential trip hazard. Dude, Kaz, that looks like a potential Stitches emergency. Because we're not all as polished as you, okay? Yeah, okay. We don't have that beautiful chin you have. I'm going to take a picture of my room because it's similar. It's a little smaller, but I have 16. Michael Williams, isn't that a Viking in front of the fireball? Yeah, that could be very possible. Viking, yeah. Yeah. That's the Ghostbusters, isn't it? Okay, you might have a Ghostbusters there. Prospector. Where would be Ghostbusters? This one right here? Oh, Stars. Yeah, he does have a Stars. One of those is a Stars. That's a Stars right here. Yeah. That's the Stars. Definitely Stars. Stars is another one, man. Stars is a good one. If that's a Ghostbusters, fantastic. You know, that's badass. Oh, the green one you're saying, guys? Yeah. So, yeah, Ghostbusters, badass, dude. Yeah. No. I mean, that is a, that's a lineup that is probably, that's an A-plus lineup. Oh, easy. He's just so nonchalant about shit, you know? I talked to him the other day, no joke. And you know what he told me? He said, I don't really value money, so I don't care what they cost. I just want them. He's like, he doesn't value money. And I thought that was so refreshing. That's awesome. So I can go 30 grand in debt. It doesn't matter. I don't value it. Fucking let's get some pinball. I'm not saying he's 30 grand in debt. I'm saying I would be 30 grand in debt if I bought two of these. If I bought a virus couch twice. A Viking in front of the fire. Stars, stars. And he has a Medusa. There you go. Medusa. So, yeah, you can tell those games are like the old. Yeah, this is a great scavenger hunt photo. We should really put this up on our pinball page. So you guys can name the game. Name the games. Yeah, it's a good scavenger hunt because you don't get a clear view of any game besides maybe Metallica, Multimorph. That is kind of cool. Like if you just go like a little section like that big of like the cabinet or something, you know, see if someone could pick out what it was. But he has the masterpieces down, though. I mean, every masterpiece is in there almost. It's good. It's a really good one. No, it's awesome. So he should have been really involved in the Metallica versus Woz debate we had a couple weeks ago. Oh, yeah. But he wasn't because he's a dick. He's probably had them both for several years. Tim Lee, Drew doesn't value pinball skills. You know, Tim Lee, you know what I like about you today, sir? Everything. Anyways, fucking Tim Lee. Jesus Christ. Oh, man. Tim, put your wife on. Yeah, Osha would like a word with him, says Kaz, regarding Trip Hazard. Yeah. I love it, Ian. Thank you for sharing, man. We got about six different game rooms already sent to us, so maybe we'll do two at a time or something. We'll have more time next week to plan for it, but we'll try to do more of these because these are really fun. I love watching people's collections. You know, TNA, Metallica, Star Trek, Woz, and Ghostbusters. I mean, that five right there plus a Whirlwind, that's just butter. What of those would you actually own, though? Out of those, which one would I rather have? Say you could pick two of them. I want Woz, and I would want maybe the Multimorphic. Okay. Woz and Multimorphic. Okay. Yeah. Fair enough. Yeah. But Star Trek would be a number three, though. Yeah, that game's so good. It is so good. Verified. Iron Maiden. Okay, so you got an Iron Maiden back there. I have the original Star Trek. It's called... Yeah, that's Iron Maiden, dude. That right there. That's totally Iron Maiden. Oh, okay. Yeah, I guess I knew you had that one. Iron Maiden. Yeah. Verified. Iron Maiden. So... Verified. Verified. Thanks, Gasaholic. I don't think that's a Woz. It's an Iron Maiden. The red? The Red's not a – that's a – Could be an L.E. The Iron Maiden came with Red, L.E. He has a Waz, Tim Lee. Yeah, he does have a Waz. Oh, you guys, you're driving me nuts. It doesn't matter. Ian Howard, send us a message. We're calling it a Waz. Waz it is. I'm pretty sure with the yellow flippers buttons, I thought that was a Waz. I mean, Waz and Iron Maiden, it's basically the same theme. All right, anyway, we're going to move on. Moving on. Moving on. Moving on. Cheese slices came up. Woo! Cheese slices. Thank you, guys. This has been a lot of fun. Drew, what have we got? We got a new Podcast of Genius segment. Glenn Glenn Waechter, Jonathan Hall, Tim Lee. Fuck yeah, we do. I did not listen to this at all. Not even a little second of it. So let's set it up. Play it. And then, yeah. I'm just saying, I've been having a lot of fun today. I hope everyone else has been having fun over there in chat, guys. Thanks, guys. This is some pinball fucking magic. I love it. You guys have touched my pinballs so well today. All right, so this is the segment we call the podcast, real podcast of genius. Real podcast genius. Well, it's the genius segment, to be fair. But we love it. So here we go. Like usual, we'll play it probably twice. And I will laugh my ass off. So enjoy. Enjoy. More Man's Pride presents Pinball Trolls of Genius. Pinball Trolls of Genius. Today we salute you useless market price pinball listing commenters. No, I'm not really going to buy a game, I just got a comment. You go out of your way to let the seller know that you wish you were closer. Beautiful game, and I actually used to own one of those. Good luck with the sale. Sure, you could have just taken a look at the photos and moved on. But no, you have a duty to comment. You must kick those tires. Let me check with my wife and I'll get back to you. You have an eye for the hobby. You know a good game when you see it. But you let me know that this game just sold in Texas for 1,000 less last week. If I only had the cash right now. So here's to you, tenacious tire kicker. Without you, no one would have any idea how nice their pinball machine was. So here's hope that you can drive just a little bit further next time. so I can kick you in the D. Foreman's Tribe presents Pinball Trolls of Genius. Pinball Trolls of Genius. Today we salute you, useless marketplace pinball listing commenter. No, I'm not really going to buy a game, I just got to comment. You go out of your way to let the seller know that you wish you were closer. Beautiful game, and I actually used to own one of those. Good luck with the sale! Sure, you could have just taken a look at the photos and moved on. But no, you have a duty to comment. You must kick those tires. Let me check with my wife and I'll get back to ya. You have an eye for the hobby. You know a good game when you see it. But you let me know that this game just sold in Texas for $1,000 less last week. If I only had the cash right now. So here's to you, tenacious tire kicker. Without you, no one would have any idea how nice their pinball machine was. So here's hope that you can drive us a little bit further next time so I can kick you in the D. Oh, that was a good one. So we have done this. That was a really good one, guys. We have done this about ten of them now, maybe. Seven. This is our seventh one, yeah. So seven of them. I think that was my favorite. That one was good. I just liked it because, A, everyone can relate to it. Everyone. Because everyone has either been that guy in the comments or they've just seen that many, many times over and over, which I'm the latter. And, yeah, it always pisses me off when people are, like, whatever, inserting their stupid comments in the air. They nailed it. They nailed it so hardcore. That was – Glenn. Jonathan Hall. Good topic. Tim Lee. Good humor. I love it. Everything about that was perfection, guys. I really love this segment, and I don't think it's stale at all. I think it's still really, really, really good. No, I love it. I look forward to it. I look forward to it, yeah, every week. With that being said, I will say this. If there are any other of the tribe members – tribe members only – If Tri members want to or if they have an idea, contact Glenn because Glenn loves this segment. I love this segment. Drew fucking worships this segment. But, yeah, Glenn is a one-man guy, and Tim Lee is helping, and Jonathan Hall helped this week. But if you guys have something or an idea, please, please get in contact with Glenn. According to Darren on Thirsty Mike, one of our producers. Quit yawning. Sorry. Couldn't help it. Pretty honest. There's no Waz at Ian Howery's place. Well, according to Mike, I want a Waz. It has been confirmed that it's not a Waz. Okay, so it's not a Ruby. Nope. Probably Maiden. Well, Maiden's cool, too. What would you like, a Waz or a Maiden? I'd want a Waz. Sorry. Yeah, I think a Waz. But Maiden shoots better. That's a good question. That is a good question. Maiden does shoot better than a Waz. A Waz has so much. It's like it is the movie. You know, Chris Koolurist. Koolurist. Too cool for school. Yeah, Mr. Kaneda himself was talking about games that have, oh, what did he say? Games that, there was only like two or three games since he's been following the hobby that hit the, nailed it under the glass, you know, the world under the glass. Yeah, and Wizard of Oz is one. He didn't mention Wizard of Oz. Oh, really? And I was screaming in my cup. He could have forgotten about it, which is fine. Yeah. But all I could think about was, oh, if I could pick three games that really captured the essence of that subject under the glass, I would say Mike Wadswoth would be probably one of the top ones. I'd say also, I'd agree with him, I'd say Lord of the Rings, and I'd also say probably the Big Lebowski. Those are the three I'm thinking. No, I agree with all three of those being in, like, say, the top five of all time. But my thing about Woz is only that that theme is not as great as it could be. Meaning, if they would have put that much effort into a different theme, a newer theme. Oh, you just don't like the theme. Well, no, I don't not like it. Oh, fucker. I'm just saying, if you put that kind of effort into a newer, maybe 80s theme or something, that would be awesome. How's that? Rachel flips Wisconsin. I'm also yawning. Rachel! Thanks, Rachel. God damn it. Billy, thanks for the video. I love you, Rachel. Billy, thanks for the bits. Ben Baldock, thanks for the video. Great commercial, guys. It's been a long weekend. You know, Drew and I did a lot this weekend. We did. All right. Is there anything else we need to touch on before we go? Oh, we want to do happy hour? Oh, sad to touch on that. It's Poor Man Pinball Podcast happy hour, which can only mean through deep thought and self-reflection, we go to the viewer's comments. Thanks for the bits, by the way. So, happy hour. We're just going to turn this segment over to you guys. Hang on, hang on. So, yeah. So, Woz, No Fear, and NASCAR, says CJ, Chris Chandler. He's saying those are the three best worlds under glass. I don't know about NASCAR because I never played that. There is no world of no fear, bro. Nope, there is nothing. There's T-shirts. There are T-shirts. If you had a bunch of T-shirts under the glass, that would make sense to me, okay? Like a podcast T-shirt? Just a bunch of T-shirts. No, no fierce t-shirts. Okay, yeah. So let's expand on that. Don't give us three. Give us what you think is the best world under glass. Just one. Best world under glass for you. Doesn't matter what the theme is. Because I do agree Wizard of Oz is implemented very well. Chris Chandler, it's a joke. You know what, Chris Chandler? Then say it's a joke. Chris Chandler is going to tell a joke, dot, dot, dot, NASCAR. I just never played NASCAR. I couldn't. No fear. No fear would be good with the t-shirts, though. No fear. I would play that game. Okay. Steve Ritchie, put some fucking T-shirts under there. Why did you put a T-shirt under there? The backlash should have been a T-shirt. Jesus, Steve Ritchie. That's what made that game. Simpsons Pinball Party. That is a good one. Yeah, you own that one. Yep. Surprised you didn't say that. Yep. I can't believe you didn't believe that was your favorite game of all time. Well, Lord of the Rings, because it's not the best world. It's not the perfect game either. It's good, but it's not the best. It's not roller games. Uh, Lord of the Rings is another one that, like, the theme itself, like, I'm not a huge fan, but the way they did it, very. Lord of the Rings. Oh, dude, yeah, that's. Yeah, it's awesome. They have a lot, a lot of things, like, with the subject matter being so big. I thought they did a killer job. Well, and it's kind of like, um, like, Hobbit, when I owned Hobbit for a while. Yeah. Like, I didn't know anything about the Hobbit movies, but holy crap, that game really kind of brought you in. Dude, that game was cinematic. Yeah. No, it was, it was awesome. It's just on the play field it wasn't cinematic. That's the problem. Once again, that's my thing with Jersey Jack because every theme they brought out, they've done a very good job integrating, but they haven't been themes I wanted. That's the problem with me too, bro. Because like Wonka. I love Wonka. They did okay, but it's Wonka. It's fine. Pirates of the Caribbean, the movies are okay, but it's not a theme that I really care that much about. So, yeah, I just want to see him do something big. No, I get it, dude. Kaz, Dale Jr. is a much better world under the glass. Tim Lee, The Big Lebowski, we talked about that. The Big Lebowski is fun because it's a great example of how you can do an entire world under the glass to, like, you know, the movie is in that game, but it's not, like, packed like Waz's. Swaz is almost too busy, whereas The Big Lebowski strikes that perfect balance. I agree with you 100% simply. I think that has the best world under the glass because it is that movie. But it's open. Like, you can still shoot. Yeah. You don't have to jam everything in there. I think that's a great one. No, and I think there just need to be more games. Jackrabbit, GNR, yes, 100%. GNR is a fantastic world under the glass. Kaneda mentioned that one as well. Creatures in the Black Lagoon. Ooh, that one's tough because... I don't believe that. Billy, I don't believe that because it has nothing to do with the movie. It's a great game. Drive-in theater. If drive-in theater was the theme, then it nailed it. But Creature, I would love a Creature pin that focuses on the movie Creature because I love the movie Creature. I really do. I love it very, very much. But Guns N' Roses, 100% Creature, not so much. I'm surprised no one's mentioned. Dracula is dang nice. You own the Bram Stokers. What did you think? Yeah, it does a good job of just bringing that movie to life, I think. Okay. Because all the call-outs are there. It's that world. But one that's missing from this chat is Ghostbusters. Ghostbusters. I think Ghostbusters did a really good job of bringing that scene to life. God bless that fucking flipper gap. I know. 100%. 100%. Just looking at it, it's so cool. Zombie Yeti with that art. Killed it. You know, that's what sold that game was that Zombie Yeti artwork. The shots were good. Mm-hmm. The, what's been put in there? Man. The mechs are fun. If we could only go back to that time, right, guys? I know. When they put shit in their games that didn't charge us $500 extra. Yeah, exactly. What would they say now? Oh, you can buy this Ghostbusters game, but it's $10,000. Oh, shit. Tron. No. Tron's a great world runner in the class. Yeah, it is. It hits all the spots, dude. I love that movie, and I love how they incorporated that movie into the game. Am I a fan of the game? It's weird, right? To me, it shoots weird. Yeah, Tron, I never. It shoots weird. It's John Borg. I love him. But I couldn't get into that game. I tried. I feel like the play field's really close to the glass when I play that. I don't know why. It's really weird. It screws with me. Oh, you're missing the one right next to you, Oktoberfest, man. That's a good world under the glass. That is definitely a world under the glass. I wouldn't say it's the best, but it's a world under the glass. It's up there. Let's see. Tron. Hard body would be better world under the glass if it included your dick weights. Kaz, everything would be better. I was just going to say, everything would be better with our dick weights. See, we're sweating best friends. We know what we're going to say. Champion Pub. Yeah. Champion Pub. That gives you everything. Power for pound, dollar for dollar is probably one of the best worlds under glass, no matter what you think. And we were talking about one earlier that is unassuming. Guess which one that is. Batman 66. Good one. You ready for this one? One third's amazing. Fire. The game Fire. Yes. You have the cityscape. You're going up the buildings with the ramps or the ladders. Fire is very much a world under glass. Love it or hate it. That's what it is. Chris Chandler. Holy shit, I looked at the play field on Guardians of the Galaxy and literally threw it over the black box. Nothing compared to the 2000s. True story. True story. Yeah, when I looked up those news stories. Glenn, you nailed it, bro. High Roller Casino. Yeah. We have a bar down the street, Glenn, that has High Roller. And it is. Glenn, that was Trader Nick's that was closed that night you came. We were going to go there. Yeah, that has. And they were closed. High Roller Casino is, and you know what? That game needs more love. I would love a High Roller Casino. It's got more mechs in it than most games. It is loaded. The shots are good. It's a fun game. And you feel like you're in a casino. You get almost every game. You get the slots. You get the roulette wheel. Yeah, you get the cards and the poker. It is fun. Fantastic. I met a guy today that's selling one, and he says he almost has a scale done. I tried convincing him to rent it because I was like, I'm trying to get rid of it. That would be a great game to rent, right? Because who doesn't want to play that thing? High Roller Casino has 20 toys with five shots. Somehow that's true. No, you're right, Glenn. Ian and I were just getting into pinball, and we start playing this game at this place we're talking about. It had been there for like three years. We went because it has an Indiana Jones Williams. Yes. That's why we went. That's the place we're talking about because it had been there for like five years. We went because it has an Indiana Jones Williams. Yes. That's why we went. So we played it, whatever, and then we go to the High Roller Casino, and we're just both like, holy shit, this game has a lot of shit going on. We enjoyed it a little bit more than Indy. But for the record, though, Indy was jacked up the back legs. We're jacked as far up as you could go. the game was charging a dollar a play and it didn't take long to lose like five bucks. High Roller was like 50 cents or something. It was 50 cents and it was set normally. It was perfect. It was a perfect shooter. But we were playing this and we're like, really? They put all these toys in there? That was the same era as like Monopoly. Yes. Because you know, you play a Monopoly and the layout's actually very cool. Yeah. What kills Monopoly is the rules. It's very cumbersome or whatever, but the shots on there and the toys and the bank and everything else i like monopoly but yeah different era man michael williams Banzai Run and blackwater 100 both great games you know i always see blackwater for sale around here there's a blackwater that's always going to sell but it's super expensive for whatever reason but yeah i'd love to play a blackwater um Banzai Run i played at expo and yeah dude that game's crazy good torpedo alley i've never played torpedo alley tim um but yeah I'll take your word for it, brother. Stephen Silver. Hey, Steven, what's up, brother? Hey, Steven, what's going on, buddy? We spent a lot of time on the details of the heist, World Under Glass. Yes. Oh, yeah. Steven, of course. Great World Under Glass. We will say this. Heist is still up there, man, dude. That's a serious game, man. And heists at this moment will still go down as probably top 10 or top 12. I won't be at top 20 toys of all time. If you don't win one Twippy, I'm going to be pissed off for you, and you will hear me on the air yelling at all these dumbass voters because Heist should at least have two to three Twippies. That's all I'm saying. What does it say about Gilligan's Island, guys? Let's see here. Dick's closed Mondays. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a lot of fun. Gilgud's Island has an episode under the glass. Yeah. No, it's not. It's okay. You know the other one that's similar to that, the same era, it's a little newer, is Flintstones. Safe Cracker. No, the Flintstones. Do you ever play the Flintstones, Ian? No. It's got the little bowling alley. Tiki Pinball. Oh, man, happy Monday, butthole. Tiki Pinball. Tiki. We love you, Tiki. Jack Rabbit. Heist should win Beth Toy. I agree. this year? Yes. Best toy, best animations, easily. The best pinball machine that Stephen Silver worked on. Oh, that's at a rookie of the year. Stephen Silver should. Yes. Dave Jeff Brenner is also up. We've got to be fair to Dave Jeff Brenner, but Stephen Silver killing it with heists. I'm calling three twippies for you, Steven. That's all I'm saying. Three. That'd be like a three-peat. Now, if Dave Jeff Brenner were to get a twippy, I'd be totally cool with that too. Sorry, Steven. Dave Jeff Brenner's my boy. I love him to death. So let's see. It extends and moves around and hits with all the ladies. Voted heist best toy. Yes. Heist is definitely a top 2,000 game. A top 2,000 game. Thank you, Stephen Silver. Yes. You are definitely in the top 2,000, Steven. Thanks, guys. Just like us. Yeah. We're in the top 2,000 podcasters. If Pinside had a top 2,000, you'd make it, dude. You'd get it. Yeah. Yeah. Podcasts? We're teetering. We're like 2003, but we're getting there. We're getting there. We're almost in that top 2,000. One listener at a time, Steven. Once we hit episode 100 and we have 100 listeners, then we're going to retire. Can you believe we've done almost 90 episodes? Absolutely. Jesus. I've been doing this way too long. My liver feels it. I was going to say, we started doing this. We were, like, skinny with no gray hair, and now we're us. He's lying, kids. We were fatter. We've been working out to look good for you kids. All right. This is the top podcast. Yes, thank you, Christiana, you jerk. All right. Heist is definitely the best toy. Yeah, Heist has – how could you not have Heist as the best animations, though? The whole thing's a fucking animation. It's beautiful. What, uh, the contenders this year, Heist, Turtles, Turtles was pretty good. Yeah, but it's a mismatch. I know. So what else was really great? I don't think there was much else that was greatly animated. GNR. GNR was not great. Well, it was up for it. Yeah, but that's not, I mean, it's, it's tough. Yeah. If they're using concert footage, is that animated? No. You know. That's why it's Heist, man. The amount of work that was done in Heist. So, Turtles. Rick and Morty. Again. Yeah, Rick and Morty, they use clips as well, so it's kind of hard to say that it's best animated. I'll just say, like I said, I'll be pissed if he doesn't get best animations, that's all. Sure. I definitely voted for him. Heavy Metal had some cool animations. Kaz, did you play at Heavy Metal? Seriously? Yeah, I'm sorry. Are you fucking with me, Kaz? Not many people are going to even get near that. Now he can hear me. That's okay. He is an asshole. Well, that's annoying. All right, Drew, why don't you talk about the segment you wanted to talk about? The segment that I just talked about? I'll do it again? Let's do it again. Sorry. So, earlier I mentioned a new segment I was toying with about what my wife was annoyed with this week, pinball-wise, with me. so I was I had some time this week I had this these banners from Flip N Out Pinball Nicole was so nice not Zach, Nicole did everything Nicole sent Ian and I each a banner just to say thank you for everything we've been doing yes we do love you and I bought one earlier from Zach so I had these two banners and Nicole for the record I beat your ass on Elvira don't ever fucking keep saying that you beat me, but I beat you on Elvira. I was drunk. I'm sure she listens. Thank you, Elvira. Elvira. Thank you, Elvira. Thank you. So anyways, I hang up these banners. I'm done. And, you know, I'm in this room. I'm in my little tiny room, my pinball room, and the wife comes in and she goes, what is that smell? And I'm like, you have to be more specific than this because there are a lot of smells in this room, of course, because I'm me. and it turns out it was the banners. It was that plasticky kind of new smell from the banners, so it just kind of permeated the house a little bit because they were rolled up for so long, and I pulled them out. They're very plasticky. Yeah, they got that nylon plastic. They think my wife is going to smell that shit. If I unroll that here, my wife, two floors up, is going to be hit. She just came in, and she goes, what's that smell? And I was like, I don't know. I didn't think anything of it. Yeah. So there's new banners. Thanks for flipping out pinball. Billy White. Jay, do your banners stink? Yeah. That's what I was going to say. Billy White did. She has stinky banners. Who here has a stinky banner? Do you guys notice your stinky banners? I don't know. I want all the banners. You know, your second story was better than your first, and nobody lost out on anything. Nope. I did pretty good. So Zach flipping out pinball. Nicole. So I want a banner for every Stern game I've owned so far. So I'm looking for Iron Maiden, Metallica. I think it would be cool to hang them up in the room. Half a bottle, guys. We took out half the bottle. Not bad. Woo! Wow, we did good. Yeah, we did all right, man. We did. Anyways, thanks, guys. We got to get going because I got to work tomorrow. Yeah, it's getting there. It's getting there. So appreciate everything. So, guys, let's just talk real quick. where are you going to go to buy your podcast gear? Sliverballswag.com perfect where are you going to go to buy pinball? flipping out pinball how are you going to check your prices for used pinball? pinballprices.com how are you going to light this fucker up? oh, pinstadium of course pinstadium.com but how do you know which pinball to get? this week in pinball kids this week in pinball how can you see the ball when it's dark out? pin kids or when there's too much glare. Pinshades. What are you going to wear when you're trying to get laid playing pinball? A podcast t-shirt. Pinshades. Pinshades t-shirt. Probably pinshades. And if you don't quite have enough money to buy a machine, where are you going to rent one? Oh, my God. Pinswap. Pinswaprentals.com? Pinswaprentals.com. Oh, my God. That's the official show. That is so much Win Schilling. For the poor man's pinball podcast. There's so much Win Schilling. But you know what? We're not done yet. I'm going to play the flipping out ad, and then we're going to end this. We love, love, love our sponsors. They're great. They're good to us. They do good things. We honestly loved all the podcasts. And they are not a sponsor, but here it is. Super awesome pinball shop. Yeah. A little Frenchy action there. Dr. Pin. Christian Line. Dr. Pin. Dr. Pin. We love that you guys contribute to the hobby, so keep it up, please, and don't be mad at Ian forever. Yeah, yeah. Look, I got a Franchi sticker here, and then there's one right there. Franchi gave me a bunch of reflective stickers that don't really show up on the stream. Oh, you can see it when you're doing that. Yeah, it's pretty sexy when you do it that way. So he has the best stickers in town. It's not even close. All right, guys, well, we really appreciate the time, and we love you. And you know what? If you guys have any questions regarding PIN Swap, we're always available. Hit the contact us on PIN Swap. It goes right to us or poormanspinball at gmail.com. We will answer you there. Also, if you want your game room featured, please, please, please go to poormanspinball at gmail.com. You see it on the bottom of the screen there. Like us on Facebook. Email us. The Twitter thing is funny. I don't know what I do with the Twitter thing. We don't tweet as much, and the YouTube stuff has kind of dried up because you love us, you're probably going to watch us. By the time we post this on YouTube, nobody cares. So we're not doing anything YouTube-ish lately. Well, we've got a lot going on. Hey, you know what? If Pinswap takes off and we can quit our jobs, we could be YouTubers for life. Oh, I would totally do that. We could be rich like Zach and Greg. Oh, that'd be great. I know. Oh, man. The love. All right, guys. We appreciate everything. Sorry about the... Thank you, everybody. Just talking for an hour on mute. It's okay. We appreciate you. Thank you so much, guys. Have a great day. Chat, you were on point today. I love you guys, chat. Don't forget to subscribe and send us some bitties for them titties. But we love you guys. This made me spit my drink out. Thank you. I've ended up pretty much your commercialization. Oh, a little free whiskey. Yeah. You guys all are amazing. We love you guys. This whiskey packs a punch. I'm sorry. It's a half a bottle. We did good. All right, guys, thank you. Drew, peace out. You look beautiful. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. See you next time. I always want to know what's inside a book. I always want to know what's inside a book. 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