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F*@kit Friday! Lions in trees to National Lampoon stuff!

Poor Man's Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·analyzed·Jan 10, 2020
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TL;DR

Casual podcast banter on animal documentaries, movie franchises, and villain-driven storytelling with brief pinball reference.

Summary

A casual, meandering conversation between Drew and Scott Ian on "Fuck It Friday" covering wildlife documentaries (tree-dwelling lions, Tasmanian tigers), filmmaking and franchise reboots (Terminator, Jurassic Park, Expendables), the importance of strong villains in action movies, and nostalgia-driven movie sequels with examples from National Lampoon films. The hosts briefly mention recording a pinball podcast and voting for the Twippies awards.

Key Claims

  • There are prides of lions that live in trees in specific regions of Africa, and scientists don't know why they do it.

    medium confidence · Drew describing a National Geographic documentary he watched about tree-dwelling lions in Africa

  • Female lions are heavier than male lions (approximately 400 vs 420 pounds average).

    medium confidence · Drew and Scott discussing lion weight after looking it up during the conversation

  • Tasmanian tigers (thylacines) went extinct about 80 years ago but there is recent evidence suggesting they may still exist in Tasmania.

    low confidence · Scott discussing Tasmanian tiger sightings and extinction, noting they haven't caught one yet but have 'evidence'

  • James Cameron has built multiple pods to explore the deep ocean floor and is making eight Avatar movies back-to-back.

    medium confidence · Drew discussing James Cameron's deep sea obsession and Avatar film production plans

  • The quality of action movies depends primarily on how strong and compelling the villain is.

    high confidence · Drew and Scott extensively discussing villain importance across multiple film franchises (Superman, Avengers, Star Wars, James Bond, Indiana Jones)

  • Arnold Schwarzenegger would have been a terrible infiltration unit in Terminator because his massive physique made him impossible to blend in with crowds.

    high confidence · Scott and Drew discussing logical flaws in Terminator's premise about infiltrator units

  • National Lampoon started as a Harvard-based comedy magazine that ran from 1970 to 1998.

    medium confidence · Drew looking up National Lampoon history during the conversation

  • Randy Quaid was arrested after squatting in a house with his wife and not paying taxes.

    medium confidence · Scott mentioning Randy Quaid's legal troubles, noting he had a full beard and looked like Cousin Eddie

Notable Quotes

  • “Cause it's Friday, you ain't got no job, and you ain't got shit to do.”

    Show opening @ Start — Signature opening line for the 'Fuck It Friday' segment

  • “They're sleeping on branches. They're living in trees. Big-ass fucking lions.”

    Drew @ Early segment — Introduces the tree-dwelling lions topic that drives much of the early conversation

  • “I ain't fucking with no big bitch. That's crazy.”

    Scott @ Lion discussion — Humorous reaction to learning female lions are heavier and more muscular than males

  • “Your action adventure movies are only as good as your bad guy... if your hero's too strong then the movie falls apart.”

    Drew @ Villain discussion — States a core thesis about what makes action films work, illustrated with multiple examples

  • “You can't go wrong with Nazis.”

    Scott @ Villain discussion — Discussing why Indiana Jones films with Nazi villains are superior to other iterations

  • “Pinball's no different you know they prey on your nostalgia all your money”

    Scott @ Mid-conversation — Direct reference to pinball's business model based on nostalgia, comparing to movie franchises

  • “At least with pinball you get to play it.”

    Drew @ Pinball segment — Differentiates pinball from passive movie consumption, suggesting added value

  • “Spaceballs 2, the Quest for more money.”

    Scott @ Sequel discussion — Referencing the Mel Brooks film's meta-commentary on sequels being cash grabs

  • “They should pass a law if a movie makes X number of dollars, like it does really well, you can't make sequels.”

    Drew @ Sequels discussion — Expressing frustration with profitable franchises pumping out declining-quality sequels

Entities

DrewpersonScott IanpersonJames CameronpersonArnold SchwarzeneggerpersonChevy ChasepersonRandy QuaidpersonJean-Claude Van DammepersonMel GibsonpersonChris Prattperson

Signals

  • ?

    community_signal: Drew and Scott mention recording a Poor Man's Pinball Podcast episode about Twippies voting immediately before this Fuck It Friday episode, indicating active content production schedule and integration between podcast segments.

    high · Just finished recording our pinball podcast, and now we're on our podcast. That's the Twippies thing.

  • ?

    community_signal: Poor Man's Pinball Podcast hosts are actively involved in Twippies voting and seeking community votes for their podcast's awards consideration, indicating they view the Twippies as an important community tradition.

    high · Vote for us. Poor Man's Pinball podcast. Yes, absolutely. For Rookie of the Year and for the podcast of the year.

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Scott draws a comparison between movie franchises preying on nostalgia for profit and pinball's business model doing the same, suggesting he views both industries as leveraging collector sentiment for revenue.

    high · Pinball's no different you know they prey on your nostalgia all your money... at least with pinball you get to play it.

  • ?

    content_signal: Poor Man's Pinball Podcast has a recurring 'Fuck It Friday' segment format that allows for casual, unscripted discussion of topics beyond pinball, extending the hosts' reach and entertainment value.

    high · Welcome to Fuck It Friday. Drew, how you doing, sir?

  • ?

    collector_signal: Discussion of how franchises (films, games) are designed to trigger nostalgia-based purchasing decisions, relevant to understanding pinball's position in the broader entertainment market.

Transcript

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0:00
Cause it's Friday, you ain't got no job, and you ain't got shit to do. You're just in time for the after party that is Fuck It Friday, starring Drew and Ian.
0:18
Welcome to Fuck It Friday. Drew, how you doing, sir? Good. Episode nine? Episode nine. Episode fuck it. I think it's nine. Nine. We'll call it nine. Let's do it. Cool. This is the ninth one.
0:31
How you doing, man? Good. Just finished recording our pinball podcast, and now we're on our podcast. That's Whippy's thing. That takes forever, but I'm glad we did it. Yeah, I am too. It needs to be done. It does, but you're right. People need to know how we're voting. That's a new yearly tradition. Yeah, you guys need to know what we're thinking and how we're going to vote and how you should vote. Vote for us. Poor Man's Pinball podcast. Yes, absolutely. For Rookie of the Year and for the podcast of the year. But anyway, back to us. Back to us. What do we got today? You got any plans for this weekend? Nope. Nothing in particular. Nothing cool. Nothing fun. How about you? That's bullshit, dude. I don't know what I'm going to do yet. Ah, fuck. Let's do something. We'll do something. Weekends are overrated, in my opinion.
1:16
Yeah, my wife was looking at places to take our daughter, like Bounce or like a playground type place, but she's not quite to yet. So I'm like, what the fuck? She's not going to do any of this shit. She's not going on trampolines. you know she's not going to blow up houses with these bigger kids she can barely walk she can barely run i suppose she's no coordination that girl so she's happy if we're just like fucking watching frozen and yep eating cookies she's she's happy about kids you know people try to like you know you always see these pictures of these people like bringing their kids like on vacation and he's like disneyland when they're like two you're like what are you doing It's such a waste of money at that age Wait until they're like 5, 6, 7, 8 Yeah when they'll remember it And you'll have these great pictures But like I said right now You take them anywhere with a stick and a ball You're like here we're This is awesome This is what we're doing I know it man I know it So she was looking at all that stuff I'm leaning towards no We took her to the library Yeah, sure. She had a blast. They had a kids section. They had all these toys to play with. She ran around for hours. Sure. See, that's what I'm talking about. What did that cost you? Nothing.

  • “It's one of my favorite [Christmas movies]... we kathleen and i watched it uh uh recently before christmas and yeah we really enjoyed it”

    Drew @ Christmas Vacation discussion — Personal endorsement of Christmas Vacation as a high-quality film that holds up to rewatching

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    medium · Pinball's no different you know they prey on your nostalgia all your money

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    content_signal: Poor Man's Pinball Podcast hosts engage in broader entertainment and culture discussions on their platform, positioning themselves as generalist entertainment commentators, not just pinball specialists.

    high · Entire Fuck It Friday segment devoted to films, nature documentaries, and entertainment industry criticism

    • 2:35
    Nothing. Those are the best trips. Nothing. Yeah. I loved it. I was like, this is awesome. You're like, we could spend $100 doing this, or we could spend $0 doing that. Yeah. Same thing. She's going to run around and not know what the hell she's doing. She doesn't know what a library is. No. She'll just bounce. No. that's what you you take them for a walk and they're just if they're in a good mood you're like yeah we had a good walk they're in a good mood yeah yeah she's only like upright for like four hours at a time before she needs a nap yeah sounds like me i know i watched this cool thing on the uh and i think it was disney channel yeah the streaming service it was uh on national geographic but it was uh about lions and the specific there is i didn't know this so you we We all know lions hang out in prides and stuff. Yep. And you picture them kind of in grassland, right? And looking for prey and shit and hunting down gazelles. Well, there is, for whatever reason, and they don't even know it. And they don't know why they do it. There is like two small areas in Africa that there's like these prides that live in trees. Big ass 300 pound cats. The lions are living in trees? These lions. Big-ass fucking lions. They're sleeping on branches. They're living in trees. Can all lions climb trees? Yeah, all cats can climb trees. Cats are great climbers, but you're a 300-pound cat. It's a little hard, but they make it work. And 300 pounds might be a little light. I think they're more than that. It's crazy. Yeah, that is nuts. It's crazy. Yeah, the females are heavier than the males, so yeah, they might be a little heavier. Is that true? Yeah, males are small. That must be the only... Wait. Yeah. I'm looking this up. The big manes they have? Yeah. Just make them look bigger. But they're not bigger than the females. The females are the hunters. They're the big ones. They got all the muscle.
    4:31
    Females fuck a dude up. Okay. Lionfax, mammalfax.com. Female lion, 400 pounds. Okay? Yeah, that's a big bitch. Lionfax.
    4:48
    I ain't fucking with no big bitch. That's crazy. No, see, I knew something. Because in almost every species, see, male lions, 420 average. No way. Look at pictures of them, back to back. I understand that, but these are both from the same, whatever, so 400 versus 420. So they're close. Because that's just like dogs or cats. I mean, you know, males are always bigger. No. It's just, you know, mother nature.
    5:16
    No. Yeah, you're right The females might be beefier for hunting Or whatever, but just Overall weight, the male weighs a little bit more I'm not here trying to be a lion expert But anyway, they don't know why these damn lions Live up in trees It's the fucking weirdest thing So these are like those trees you see in the savannah Just kind of like All sorts of trees Like eight of them, up in a tree So these are specific lions Or just in this area Yeah, specific prize They say that one lion, like, did it, and the rest just kind of followed. They've all just followed. Weird. However many generations, and they just live up in these trees. They don't know if it's to keep away from mosquitoes. They don't know if it's to, or flies. They don't know if it's, like, to see, like, prey farther. This is what I'm thinking. So, like. It's crazy. I don't understand it. They don't either. I have a big chocolate lab. He's over 100 pounds. That's four of him. his fat ass climbing up a tree. You know what I mean? Like sleeping on a branch. Yeah. Like my dog falls off the couch sometimes.
    6:25
    He literally falls off the couch and then says, oh, what happened? We aren't close to 300 pounds. You think you could sleep on a branch on a tree? That's what I'm saying. Yeah. No way. So me or you go climb up a tree. Yeah. Oh, I'm just going to sleep on this branch here like it's normal. No. Yeah. I'm a buck 80. There's no way I'm sleeping on no branch. I'll fall right off. but yeah they live up in trees it's crazy that is fucking weird they don't even know why they're just like yeah they're flying drones around these things they're lazy as shit they're just like yeah okay whatever whatever that is and they just land fucking lions man it's nuts but it's cool it's very cool those super cool all those all those nature shows you know the what was that series they had the the dvd series what was that called uh planet planet earth yeah remember that's when they first started showcasing like hd tvs yeah yeah right and you'd go to best earth was yeah 30 channel bbc it was yeah and you'd see that at best buy and they would just showcase that because it was like you know the coral reefs and then the the yeah the savannah and they'd have animals and mammals and fish and whatever and but anyways but aside from the hd awesomeness of it just watching some of that shit it's just crazy they had they had some documentary was it on netflix or something where they showed the photographers that go out and get this stuff those guys are badass because they're like sitting out in the jungle forever watching you know monkeys and whatever yeah they're looking at like they're they look like snipers they're all yeah and they're just like just chilling just watching just watching for hours and hours and I saw one about a gypsy moth or some kind of rare moth. Sure, and they have to wait for it and just wait and wait and wait. Well, yeah, it was like some weird moth, but they didn't know. Maybe it was like a flower. It was a weird orchid. They're like, how does this orchid get pollinated? There's no way. No animal, no insect could get inside this orchid. And then some weird-ass moth shows up with a long-ass tongue, and they're like, this is happening. They're like, boners are out. Was that like them watching and being like, this is the money shot? We have four photos, four photos of this moth pollinating this orchid. I'm sitting here like, I'm pumped because they're pumped. I don't know what the fuck's going on. It's just a moth and it's got damn flowers. That's all it is. I read the other day there was like this species of something that they found they thought was extinct. Sometimes you come across that. Those same guys where they're like, oh, we thought this thing was extinct and we found one. and, you know, it's just crazy. I know. They still believe, like, there's Tasmanian tigers out there. You know, that's been a... That's a Tasmanian tiger. Oh, dude, it sounds exactly like a Tasmanian... Like a Tasmanian devil? No. Google that shit Yeah Tasmanian tiger Because Tasmanian tigers have been extinct for I don know 100 years Maybe longer There like old photos of them from back in the day But now, all of a sudden, they're starting to find evidence that they're still around in Tasmania. It's like still so, it's all bush, you know? But the Tasmanian tiger is, they're finding evidence that there's more out there, which is crazy. If they find more of those fucking things, that's going to be a huge news story. It looks like a skinny dog. With tiger stripes on the rear legs. Yeah, it starts halfway down. It's like a dog hyena. Yeah, if you imagine a hyena. Mean little shit, yeah. But about halfway down its body, it starts the stripes, and the stripes go all the way to his ass. And then down the tail, he's got short little ears and kind of like a pointy, you know, like a mutt snout. Things look fucking crazy. But yeah. They're saying, yeah, they've kind of found some now. And they thought they were safe. There's some evidence, yeah. They don't know if it's 100% yet. But yeah, they don't have evidence, evidence. They didn't caught one of these guys yet. But they think they're out there still. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So they haven't seen them, but they think they're out there? Evidence. Yeah, evidence. Well, no, I said they didn't catch them. Oh, but they've seen. I have no idea. I'm not out there. I have no idea what the hell they found. It's called a thylacine. is its actual name. So are werewolves. Has Mania Tiger Sightings raised questions about extinction?
    10:47
    It's been gone extinct about 80 years ago. So not that long ago, I guess. I'm not too far off. Weird. Very, very weird. But see, that's what's weird to me about I mean, I guess it's in the jungle and I understand. I mean, that's the bush. Yeah, deep brush. Yeah, dude. You know, the ocean, you can understand because it's like... There's so much of it. Yeah, there's so much of it. You're not going to explore it. There's so many places. It's expensive to go far deep. Yeah. So like that. Can we even get to the deepest parts? I don't even know if we can. James Cameron can. James Cameron can do whatever the fuck he wants. Isn't that amazing? I mean, if you guys don't know, James Cameron's obsessed with deep sea shit. Yeah. So he made himself several pods that he can go down into the depths of wherever. Jacques Cousteau. Yeah, pretty much. So he's like been to the ocean floor, which that in itself is crazy because if you know how far the ocean floor is, it's way down there. No, I just go to the beach part of it. Yeah, I'm like – I can stand on it. Yeah, and I'll walk 10 feet in because I can still stand in the ocean. Yeah, but I'm on the ocean floor with a drink in my hand. Exactly. Hey, James Cameron, this cost me $3.
    12:04
    What did that cost you? $3 billion? sucks baby you james cameron should you hear he's making like eight avatar movies like there's like he's making them back to back to back to back here's the thing that's too much blue i get these creative types that are like passionate and that's great right passion's awesome but like these people are like dicks like they're like james cameron just like screams at you like he'll literally like start screaming at you and be like you know you're an asshole and you know get off my set and whatever and you're like dude you're worth like literally a billion dollars and smile yeah have a cope yeah shut the fuck up you can make these movies that's cool yeah make it laugh yeah and throw more money at it if you want it doesn't matter it really doesn't matter and you're so irritated about whatever it is like oh my god it makes me mad like all these it's just it's just irritating what pisses me off is like he can make eight Avatar movies, but he quits after Terminator 2.
    13:06
    Nah, I'm done. I told that story. Here's just a good segue. What do you think about all these Terminator reboots? It's a mess. You know what I mean? You have these movies. I know they made a lot of money back in the day. So you're like, okay, we'll reboot it. Terminator 3, and then Terminator Genesis, and then Terminator whatever. and then Jurassic Park's another one you know Jurassic Park's a great movie Jurassic Park 2 it was okay Jurassic Park 3 it starts losing a little bit of it's luster then you're like well it's probably 10-12 years later after that and you're like yeah let's do Lost World 2 we got Chris Pratt you know after Guardians he'll be good that was after Guardians right yeah so it's like I love Chris Pratt but I'm watching that movie and I'm a huge Jurassic Park fan, anyone who knows me, and I'm like, yeah, this kind of sucks. Which one did you see? The newest one?
    14:04
    What is the newest one? I lost track. Did I stop watching them? Jurassic World 2? I don't know. I watched Jurassic World. What was the one with Blue, the raptor? That was Jurassic World. I'm talking about the one where the island explodes or whatever. I didn't see that one either. I heard that was pretty bad. I guess what are my thoughts? My thoughts are it's a mess it's always been a mess but they're just cash grabs that's what i'm saying like none they're just preying on your nostalgia yeah pinball's no different you know they prey on your nostalgia all your money that's true that's true it is what it is at least with pinball you get to play it yeah that's what i'm saying you get that these movies though it's like arcade machines you can play it yeah there's some nostalgia there you can get something back um but you know i was just as you were saying that i was just thinking i was like terminator is probably one of the weirdest franchises because because if you think about that whole whole franchise i mean it really centers around every movie centers around like john connor he's gonna lead the human resistance right yeah every movie had a different john connor yeah yeah every single one and and this and then arnold was the bad guy the villain of the first one and made his career and he got so big he's like i don't want to be the villain anymore so you got to make me a good terminator and they did that for the rest of the series yeah another thing that always bothered me about terminators uh the movie is um so in the first one they talk about arnold schwarzenegger that t whatever he is 800 or whatever that model is t1000 i thought t1000 was liquid yeah you're right t800 or 600 yeah yeah t200 to t100 i don't know but they're like infiltrator units like they were like the new ones they weren't just a robot they were a robot with human skin and they could blend in with anybody in a crowd arnold schwarzenegger's not blending in with shit he's got to be the worst yeah the worst infiltration unit of all time this huge bodybuilder because if they made that movie surrounded by a bunch of starving people eating rats if they made that movie today it would have been some some standard looking guy yeah right that was just even his like back in the you know in the 70s and the 80s his he had a bodybuilding friend from italy franco so if anyone knows arnold's career franco was this this short guy who was like super strong like he was just stupid he would like move cars with his bare hands he and he wasn't much taller than us like he was really really short and he would run he'd do all the all the tough guy competitions he would he'd these races with like a refrigerator like on his back he would just run these races with refrigerators like but he was on he had a little spot in the first terminator movie when infiltrator uh it was like one of the flashbacks in the first terminator movie the infiltrator terminator guy gets past the dogs and he had that big like automatic machine gun laser rifle and he's blowing everybody away and and and sarah kind of picture turns on you know gets on fire or whatever anyway so right there that shows me that there's more than just one infiltration unit right you gotta have more skids you can't have a thousand arnold sforzeneggers that's not a good infiltration unit because you're like no i saw him yeah i saw him last time yeah kill that that's a terminator look how huge he's like 500 pounds kill that guy so that always bothered me so like moving forward that model number is always going to be arnold and i just it always drove me nuts sure always drove me nuts yeah i could see that now arnold's like old yeah like why does he keep coming back to these things oh i know well even these are the oldest robots and they'll even like well it's just thinking about it gets me speaking of old like like expendables was awesome yeah like the original expendables was cool because it was fun you just yeah you bring all these great action stars you can tell they're having fun it's it's the real deal yeah and then they're like yeah let's make part two let's make part three i think they even went to part four they missed what made the first one so special was it was like a bunch of tough guys but do you remember some of the side um storylines it was like um jason statham's character had his heart broken yeah like it was mushy which made it funny because they're all big dudes yeah and it all manly just just and he like my heart broken oh poor christmas 20 minutes of screen time was awesome but then you like i don want to see you in three movies like this Well they made it fun but all the other ones were just like ridiculous Yeah. Like, you almost felt bad that, like, the one with, I don't even know which one it was, but the one with Jean-Claude Van Damme was the bad guy. You almost had to feel bad for him because you're the bad guy. You're Jean-Claude Van Damme. Who's on your side? just a bunch of no-name henchmen that you know are going to get their asses kicked and blown up. And who are you going up against? You're going up against Sly, Arnold, Bruce Willis. You're like, you know, Jet Li, Dolph Lundgren. The list goes on and on because there's more and more every movie. And you're like, you guys couldn't give Jean-Claude Van Damme a little bit of help? You couldn't give him two or three bad asses to help him? Yeah, no, that's true. And then the next one was Mel Gibson. same thing they didn't give him any help either oh it was mel gibson in the next third third one yeah see like i said it was one of those things i loved the first one because it was so cool but at least the first one yeah the bad guy had like stone cold steve austin yeah that one kickboxer from the 80s movies always so like yeah he had henchmen but john cloud he's like oh who's on my side they're like oh you don't really get anybody sorry maybe it's just my uh my short attention span but i after like watching it then i'm like yeah it was cool i get it i'm done you know i'm not i don't want to i don't want to see it again so the problem with like all action movies like really bad ones are you know your your movie and i don't know why studios don't get this but your action adventure movies are only as good as your bad guy like so much focus is on the heroes but if your hero's too strong then the movie falls apart like all those superman movies yeah like the best ones are when the villain has the upper hand on superman yeah because superman's almost all powerful yeah so it's really really hard it's tough the same thing with the you know the avengers when like oh the avengers are almost beaten because of this thing is so strong it's right it's compelling and then uh you know that's why darth vader and darth maul are so cool because like they're they're powerful yes and yeah yeah but when you go up against start you know or Count Dooku, that level isn't there. Some old guy who happens to have a lightsaber. And you're like, eh. A prime Anakin Skywalker. No, that's not threatening enough. And a bunch of robots that go, ow, ow, they can't shoot. That's not threatening enough. But stormtroopers, even though they can't shoot, they're at least threatening. You bring up a great point. Because, okay, Star Wars A New Hope is one of the highest grossing movies of all time, right? And it's just inflated, whatever, with the inflation dollar. It is. It's so far up there. And why is that? You got Darth Vader, right? You have Darth Vader, you have Grand Moff Tarkin, and you have the Death Star. Yeah. Those are three things that the Rebel Alliance had to overcome. Our heroes. Then, like you said, you have some of these other examples where the villain kind of sucks. Yeah. Yeah, the villain, like those Expendable movies. Like, even Bruce Lee's biggest hit, Enter the Dragon, there was no time in that entire movie where Bruce Lee did not get bested, you know, in a martial arts way. Like, he beat up everybody. They threw, like, a thousand people at him. He was just going around kicking them all in the face, taking their weapons. He, I think the guy got punched, like, twice in that whole movie. Kicked 200 guys right out the fucking window. Yep. got punched twice you know what i'm saying yep the bad guy sliced them once with like the weakest like slice ever across his chest but other than that bruce lee was like i'm all right i'm a little sleepy i kicked 2 000 people in the face sure but that you know that movie is stylistic and it's interesting what makes it kind of cool is like bolo young was in that movie and you have other heroes that struggled when they fought but bruce lee when you knew bruce lee was gonna fight he didn't kick everyone's ass like there was no challenge for that guy um and that's enter the dragon you know that that movie that movie is just one of those there's there's movies like that that if the bad guy isn't up like any james bond movie the best ones have the best villains the worst ones have the weakest villains like you're like oh fuck me what are you doing this time all right i guess we'll watch this this is dumb you know some guy trying to steal well even something like the indiana jones movies and stuff you know who were the the villains you know yeah the first one was you know the nazis that's what makes the first one so good the third one was the nazis that's why it makes the third one so good the second one yeah they had that like the cult or whatever and they were pretty creepy so that that was pretty good but the fourth one i still don't was the russians they weren't that great and then there was monkeys i remember some aztec tribe tribes guy i don't I didn't see the fourth one. See, that one is not good. It's just not good. You can't go wrong with Nazis. No, because that's a tough villain. That's a great villain. Yeah. They always got big guns and big tanks. Well, that's where the Red Skull from Marvel Universe, that's where he comes from. He's like a Nazi demon or whatever. Yeah. It's just kind of... But you've got to have a good villain. Think of all your classic action movies. If they had good villains, it was a good movie probably. Yeah, so, and that's true with all the superhero movies, and even the Matrix movies, like the second and third one, like, you knew Neo was going to kick some ass. Like, it was just, it was. Yeah. But the first one was so good, because Neo got his ass kicked 90% of that movie until he figured it out at the end, and then he started kicking some ass. Yeah, they should pass a law if a movie makes X number of dollars, like it does really well, you can't make sequels. Right. Right? Like, you know, because some of these. I know, and I know why they do it, and it's about money. We're a capitalistic society. But like I said, almost all these movies, they, like I said, they can't. And why hasn't Avatar 2 come out then? You know what I mean? It's weird because Avatar was one of the biggest movies of our time, you know, from a financial perspective. Remember when that came out? Yeah. I mean, just how crazy everyone was about it. Yeah. like yeah you know the the special effects and the cgi and how they're doing this it's so great and um you know i'm surprised that one didn't get a sequel right away probably cameron just didn't want to do it or whatever which is fine but which is what we're kind of talking about but um you know every other movie they say yeah we can make a bunch of money so we're just going to keep pumping them out yeah sequels are that's where the money is yeah what was the joke in space balls you know Oh, we'll see you in the sequels. Spaceballs 2, the quest for more money. Oh, yeah, you're right. And to your point about different actors and stuff, even stuff like Christmas Vacation, National Lampoons, right? They always had different kids. Yeah. It went from Johnny Galecki to John C. What was his name? I know the kids. They all changed. No, he's a famous actor. Shit. So Chevy Chase did the original vacation was with John C. Hall, the redheaded kid.
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    Yeah, I don't know. Do you even know who I'm talking about? No, I don't know the kid's name. He played in all those John Hughes movies of the 80s. Yeah, no. Okay, well, anyways, then in Christmas Vacation, it was Johnny. I can picture him. Yeah, it was Johnny Galecki from Big Bang Theory and Roseanne. so there's two well-known actors now who played these Rusty, I think was his name and the daughter was different it was Juliette Lewis and the ages got different Rusty was the older one and then he was the younger one it was bizarre it was Audrey and it was Juliette Lewis and then the other she's an unknown, I don't know who she is and Vagusfication was different yeah, because Vagusfication was different Yeah, that other dude that was big in the 90s. Yeah. So, like, here's this big franchise that's making money, and you got Chevy Chase and Beverly whatever her name is. Yeah, D'Angelo. You know, and they're doing well, and Randy Quaid, and then, yeah, they just plug in these kids. Well, what the fuck? It's just weird to me. Yeah, no, I agree with you. You know, why don't they keep the kids the same? Those movies were all made within, like, five or six years of each other. Even with the age and the kids, even that, with that just out of the picture, I find the timeline really interesting with the vacation movies because there's National Lampoon's Vacation, right? And then there was Christmas Vacation. Mm-hmm. Okay? And then there was Christmas Vacation 2. There was a sequel to that that starred Randy Quaid's character, Cousin Eddie. but then they had the sequel to Vacation when they went to the European vacation Oh I forgot about the European one And then they went to Vegas Vacation
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    Yeah, like it branched off into the whole Christmas thing. Yeah. So fucking weird. Christmas is obviously the best. What do you think?
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    Yeah, I like Christmas the best. I watch Christmas more than I do the other ones. The original's good. It's a perfect Christmas movie. It's one of my favorite christmas yeah we kathleen and i watched it uh uh recently before christmas and yeah we really enjoyed it i mean it's just it's just good it's great it's written perfectly yeah chevy chase is a dick uh to work with i guess yeah he's a prick and he went through a bunch of directors i guess in that movie but yeah um but it's an awesome movie no it's awesome it's great and what is with just national lampoons in general how did that you know i think that's a comedy troupe Kind of like the lizard guys from Super Troopers. Yeah, I was going to say Broken Lizard. Yeah. I think their name is. Yeah. But, like, it's just weird because it's, yeah. Wasn't it also a magazine, too? National Anthem magazine? Yeah. Yeah, so that was just kind of like the brand, I guess. Yeah, Animal House. Yeah, Animal House is what started it. That was, like, the first movie, I think, right? Yeah, I think it was a comedy group or whatever. Yeah, it was like a little. Or was it Porky's or Meatballs? Was that National Anthem? I don't think so. No? I don't think so. Bill Murray was in Meatballs. porkies i don't think that was i'm gonna look it up because i always yeah you're right it wasn't magazine first i see did they do loaded weapon though national loaded weapon it was american humor magazine from 1970 to 1998 okay so they were around for almost 30 years uh started by harvard graduates oh so that's it so one of the guy's names was wait no no lampoon no I said Harvard Lampoon. That's obviously not his name. Doug Kenny or something else. Excuse me, everybody. But, yeah, it's kind of cool, though, that they got to be so popular. And those movies are so beloved, you know, some of them. Anyways, but, yeah, Randy Quaid. Where's that guy now? Jesus, have you seen that? Oh, yeah, he stopped paying his taxes. Yeah, he was squatting in a house for a while, like him and his wife, and, like, he got arrested. He had that full beard and like, yeah. He looked like his character in Christmas Vacation, but like, you know, and full beard and stuff. Eddie. Cousin Eddie. All right. You want to sit back and listen to this. So it's National Lampoon's Animal House. Okay. National Lampoon's Class Reunion, 1982. Okay. National Lampoon's Movie Madness, 1983. National Lampoon's Vacation, 1983. National Lampoon's European Vacation, 1985. National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation, 1989. National Lampoon's Loaded Weapon, 1993. National Lampoon's Senior Trip, 1995. Vegas Vacation, 1997. National Lampoon's Golf Punks, 1998. National Lampoon's Van Wilder. That was a National Lampoon's Van Wilder. Really? 2002. Oh, I guess, yeah. Replicate, 2002.
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    Black Ball, 2003. National Lampoon Presents Jake's Booty Call, 2003. Gold Diggers in 2003. Presents Storm Days, 2003. Barely Legal. Distance. The Almost Guys. Adam and Eve. Castle Call. Quest for Festaroo.
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    National Lampoon's Pucked. National Lampoon's Van Wilder. The Rise of Taj. I mean, we're only at 2006. It keeps going, dude. Jesus, they're still going, huh? What's the latest one?
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    2015, National Lampoon's Drunk, Stoned, Brilliant, Dead. So, holy shit, they made movies up until 2015. Yes. That is crazy. It's fucking nuts. I never would have guessed that. No. You know what was the thing? No, never. I had Loaded Weapon, Animal House, and the Vacation movies. You know what was surprising to me was that you said Vegas Vacation was 97. so that was almost 10 years after christmas vacation which is with that that was surprising to me um holy shit 2015 though so from like the late 70s to 2015 that's that's quite a franchise right yeah i mean that's that's star wars-esque i mean i know i didn't do the numbers but that's crazy how the hell do you make that many movies and i don't know half of those movies How did those make any money? No, but, you know, I think it's kind of like what we were talking about. So you get these good movies. You have, you know, Christmas Vacation, European Vacation, whatever, right? You capitalize on it. You might have a couple of duds. Then you have Vegas Vacation, which was pretty good. Yeah. You know, I enjoyed Vegas Vacation. No, I liked it.
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    And then, yeah, you have a few more duds, but who cares? By that time, by the time you had a few hits, a couple of duds, and another couple of hits, guess what? you have a lot of fucking money in your bank account. Oh, good lord. That's really what happened. So those guys, to this day... I mean, at that point, though, don't you... Like, me and you, we create the Poor Man's Pinball podcast. All of a sudden, people are like, these guys know it. They get it. Let's give them millions of dollars. Man, I'd cash probably that second check for $5 million. I know. I'm like... I know. Oh, I guess I'm retired now. Sorry. See, but that's the thing about all these guys. I'm going to take my $5 million. Yeah, you get that money, and you're just like, shit, I can make more. And I'm good now. And like I said, but you make a dud. You don't make $5 million, but you still make $500,000. That's really the thing. I guess. Well, you'll run out of money eventually. Well, not if you're still. They stopped at $2,015 for a reason. Sure. Too many duds. But not if you're making some money. They may not. That's true. You lose a few. But they kept pushing, pushing, pushing. Fuck, did they ever. They didn't give a shit about a script. Yeah. They lose a million bucks one year, and they're like, yeah, you know what? I lost a million of my 20 million, so I'm out. You know, I'll call it good. It's still crazy to me. It is. No, it's nuts. And you're right. So nice. The last, like, after that Vegas vacation, I didn't know any. Well, I knew Van Wilder and Rise of Taj. Yeah. Because those were actually pretty mainstream. But the rest of those. That was Ryan Reynolds' first one. Yeah. One of his first. Yeah. And that was really good. And then, you know, Rise of Taj wasn't as good, but, like, that actor, that Indian guy, he's cool. He's in a bunch of shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's neat. But, yeah, those guys, they cashed in. They're probably, like, in their 40s or 50s now, and they're just like, yeah, whatever. Yeah. Oh, yeah, dude. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah, because they, well, shit, no, they're probably older than that because they started in the, like, late 70s. Yeah, how'd you like to, like, just, I don't know, be rich or whatever, and you're in a mansion, and you look to your left and bigger mansion, you're like, who the fuck are those guys? Oh, yeah, that's the guy that started National Lampoon. You're like, wait a second, look at this fucking guy. Exactly. He made all those bad movies and look at his house. That's crazy. Crazy. Yeah. Well, because the thing people don't realize about that, they say, oh, it was a dud or whatever. That's fine. But even on the duds, they're still making some sort of royalty every year. Yeah. That's the thing. It's like they might not get a million-dollar check, but they're still getting like, oh, here's $10,000, here's $20,000, you know, because that movie does play on some station somewhere. So they're like, oh, Netflix is going to give you, you know, $5,000 a year because we're putting this on their thing. Okay. What do you care? You made the movie. Give me my $5,000 every year or every month or whatever. It's crazy. It is crazy. I'll say this. You know what else is crazy? What's that? We go from animals to National Lampoons. Our tangents are crazy. They're good, though. That's how we do Fuck It Friday. I know. We start talking about lions and a tree. Yeah. And we end up on National Lampoons. Van Wilder, Rizataj. You know what we need to do? And we're going to call this soon. But we need to go back and listen to some of these Fuck It Fridays. Yes. And track those tangents just for fun. Yeah. So we'll just do one episode where we're like, hey, episode one, we went from here. to here. Yes. Episode 2. You know, where we started and where we ended up. So this one was Lions in a Tree to National Lampoon's Van Wilder. Well, shit, last week's was The Poison King of Pontus all the way to Magic. Oh, yeah.
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    You know what? We're going to put that on our Facebook page. We'll type them out. It'll be kind of neat. It'll be like we started at Poison King of Pontus and we ended up at Myth of Deities, yeah. Magic on the Street.
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    Street magic. That was the word I was thinking of. This is magic on the street. All right, let's call this. All right, thank you everybody for listening to Fuck It Friday, episode number nine. Love it, guys. You guys have a great weekend. Yeah, thanks, man. Bye-bye. See ya.