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Episode 142- Quarantine

Slam Tilt Podcast·podcast_episode·analyzed·Mar 24, 2020
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TL;DR

Slam Tilt discusses COVID-19's catastrophic impact on pinball shows, market, and manufacturer survival during quarantine.

Summary

Ron Hallett and Bruce Nightingale discuss the COVID-19 pandemic's impact on the pinball industry during Episode 142 of Slam Tilt Podcast. They cover widespread event cancellations (Texas Pinball Festival, Midwest Gaming Classic, Allentown Pinfest), predictions of manufacturer closures due to economic collapse, upcoming game releases (American Pinball's Hot Wheels, Multimorphic's Heist), and restoration projects Bruce is undertaking during quarantine. The conversation reflects deep concern about market viability and survival for smaller manufacturers like Spooky, Deep Root, and American Pinball.

Key Claims

  • At least one pinball manufacturer will go out of business this year, possibly two

    medium confidence · Ron Hallett predicting manufacturer failures due to economic collapse from COVID-19

  • Stern will not sell half of what they sold last year

    medium confidence · Bruce Nightingale's prediction on market contraction affecting even the largest manufacturer

  • No pinball shows will happen until fall at the earliest

    high confidence · Bruce's declaration based on event cancellations and postponements

  • Texas Pinball Festival is canceled

    high confidence · Direct statement by both hosts; Deep Root and Multimorphic games planned for reveal will not be showcased live

  • Only about 100 people own a Multimorphic machine, and the two Bruce knows have already sold theirs

    medium confidence · Bruce's market observation about Multimorphic adoption and user retention

  • American Pinball's Hot Wheels has a terrible theme and animation

    medium confidence · Bruce's critical assessment of the game revealed at AMOA show

  • Deep Root's game reveal scheduled for March 25th has been postponed with no new date announced

    high confidence · Direct reference to official postponement announcement

  • Allentown Pinfest scheduled for June 12-13 will not happen

    medium confidence · Bruce's pessimistic prediction: 'Mark my words. It will not be. No. June 12th and 13th, it will not be.'

  • Bruce is acquiring a Quicksilver playfield restoration project from Australia arriving April 15th

    high confidence · Direct statement about incoming restoration project with shipping details

  • Used vintage pinball pricing has dropped significantly due to market collapse

Notable Quotes

  • “Mark my words. It will not be another pinball show until the fall at the earliest.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ ~22:30 — Key market prediction about event cancellations cascading through the year

  • “I think my predictions for this year, you're going to have at least one pinball manufacturer is going to go out of business. I think two. Possibly two.”

    Ron Hallett @ ~28:00 — Stark prediction about manufacturer viability during COVID economic collapse

  • “Stern will not even – they won't sell half of what they sold last year. No. There's just no way. Who's going to buy it? Nobody. All your bars, they're all closed.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ ~29:00 — Market contraction analysis affecting even the industry leader

  • “Hot Wheels? No. Yeah, terrible theme, terrible game, terrible look.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ ~36:30 — Critical assessment of American Pinball's newly revealed game

  • “This is the beginning of WALL-E.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ ~33:00 — Metaphorical commentary on market consolidation and small business extinction

  • “American Pinball, I think, will be done.”

    Ron Hallett @ ~30:30 — Specific prediction about American Pinball's viability under COVID conditions

  • “If you have a Multimorphic, which is, I think, only 100 people, and the two people I know who owned it have already sold them. So what does that tell you?”

    Bruce Nightingale @ ~40:00 — Market adoption signal for boutique manufacturer platform

  • “The timing could not have been worse on this. No, totally agree.”

    Ron Hallett / Bruce Nightingale @ ~39:30 — Commentary on Multimorphic's Heist pricing at $10K base + $2.75K kit during economic crisis

  • “I was like, oh, my God. Oh, I didn't see any of the animation. Oh, it was terrible looking.”

Entities

Ron HallettpersonBruce NightingalepersonStern PinballcompanyAmerican PinballcompanySpooky PinballcompanyMultimorphiccompanyDeep Root Pinballcompany

Signals

  • ?

    business_signal: Hosts predict at least one, possibly two pinball manufacturers will fail due to COVID economic collapse; specific prediction that American Pinball will not survive

    medium · Ron: 'I think my predictions for this year, you're going to have at least one pinball manufacturer is going to go out of business. I think two.' Bruce: 'American Pinball, I think, will be done.'

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    market_signal: Steep market contraction across all pinball segments; no bar/location purchases due to closures, homeowners unable to spend on premium machines during economic crisis

    high · Bruce: 'Who's going to buy it? Nobody. All your bars, they're all closed.' 'Homeowners in this economy, they're not going to drop down seven grand on a game.'

  • ?

    product_concern: American Pinball's Hot Wheels criticized for poor animation quality, weak theme, and unfortunate timing during economic collapse; hosts doubt marketability

    high · Bruce: 'Hot Wheels? No. Yeah, terrible theme, terrible game, terrible look.' 'The animation was terrible looking.' Ron: 'I don't know how... Hot Wheels... no one's going to buy Hot Wheels.'

  • ?

    event_signal: Major pinball industry events canceled/postponed: Texas Pinball Festival (canceled), Midwest Gaming Classic (canceled), Allentown Pinfest (delayed to June; Bruce predicts will not happen), Arcade Expo (postponed), Stern Pro Circuit (postponed), NYC Pinball Championships (canceled), Yagpin (canceled)

    high · Multiple direct statements: 'Texas Pinball Festival, canceled.' 'Midwest Gaming Classic, canceled.' 'Allentown Pinfest... June 12th and 13th, it will not be.'

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Transcript

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0:00
For I am the great Cornholio. I need tibi for my bunghole. Bring me your tibi. All your tibi. You do not want to face the wrath of my bunghole. There must be more tibi. More tibi. Now.
0:30
Repeat after me. I am the great Cornholio. I need TP for my bunghole. I am the great Cornholio. I need TP for my bunghole. Eh. So, like, want to share our essence? I'm a prophet.
1:00
Coming to you from beautiful upstate New York, this is the Slam Tilt Podcast, a show about all things pinball. I'm your host, Ron Hallett, here with my co-host, Bruce Nightingale. Hey, buddy, can you spare a dime? I don't know. I probably could. Okay, good. Welcome to episode 142. Anything interesting happen since our last episode? No, just the world ending. The world has ended. There is no toilet paper. Ending. Oh, I got plenty of toilet paper. Oh, you do? Oh, I do. You know what's plenty of toilet paper? My dad. From where he used to work, I don't know, they must have had some toilet paper disposal policy or something. So you would just like, oh, that's perfectly good toilet paper. So he'd just take it home, and he did that for years. So now he has machine amounts of toilet paper. I probably have about 170 rolls. Oh, my God. Are you going to sell them on Amazon? Nope. Not at all. Not at all? So what's new with you, Ron? I'm stuck home. Yep, so am I now. Well, I'm not really stuck home. I have the excuse. I can go back and forth to my bar, which is closed. It's closed, along with all non-essential services. Yes. And it's carrying over now. Illinois is now the next state that's done this. Ah, yeah. Who's that? California?
2:20
Well, California, they want everyone just to stay home. Yes. Illinois is going to be the next thing, and so are we. in New York state, but I have to give a shout out when a shout out is due. Oh, okay. I'm Andre Anderson. He emailed silver ball saloon two days ago, and he wanted to buy a gift certificate for $20.

medium confidence · Bruce noting used machines previously priced at $5-6K are now much lower

Bruce Nightingale @ ~36:45 — Technical criticism of American Pinball's Hot Wheels animation quality

  • “We were in the top seven... even part-time that's hard to believe peace out bitches”

    Ron Hallett @ ~63:00 — Meta-reference to podcast recognition and community response

    • Texas Pinball Festival
    event
    Allentown Pinfestevent
    Midwest Gaming Classicevent
    IFPAorganization
    Arcade Expoevent
    Stern Pro Circuitevent
    Silver Ball Salooncompany
    Pinball Expoevent
    Twippies Awardsevent
    Andre Andersonperson
    Dennis Grieselperson
    Hot Wheelsgame
    Heistgame
    Quicksilvergame
    Mousing Aroundgame
    Star Trek: The Next Generationgame
    Draculagame

    market_signal: Used/vintage pinball pricing has dropped significantly due to market collapse; machines previously $5-6K now much cheaper

    medium · Bruce: 'Pricing's gone way down.' 'The last two were going for five and six. Insane... Maybe not now anymore. Who knows?'

  • ?

    machine_intel: Multimorphic has extremely limited adoption; Bruce estimates only ~100 units exist; both owners he knows have already sold their machines

    medium · Bruce: 'If you have a Multimorphic, which is, I think, only 100 people, and the two people I know who owned it have already sold them.'

  • ?

    product_launch: Deep Root Pinball's game reveal scheduled for March 25th postponed with no new date announced; will be streamed online instead of live at Texas Pinball Festival

    high · Bruce: 'March 16th, our pinball launch date event that was scheduled for March 25th has been delayed, postponed.'

  • ?

    product_strategy: Multimorphic's Heist game priced at $10K base platform + $2.75K game kit; hosts criticize timing as terrible during economic collapse; questions whether anyone will spend this amount

    high · Bruce: 'I looked at the price of it was like $27.50 for the kit... So how much is that? Let me order a heist... Plus $10,000. $10,000. Plus $27.50. Plus shipping and handling.'

  • ?

    venue_signal: Ron's Silver Ball Saloon pinball bar closed indefinitely due to COVID-19 lockdown; no revenue coming in but fixed costs (rent, insurance, internet, utilities) continue; landlord hasn't agreed to rent deferment yet

    high · Ron: 'I'm stuck home. I have the excuse. I can go back and forth to my bar, which is closed... it's very stressful though having no money come in but bills still being there'

  • ?

    supply_chain_signal: Bruce's Quicksilver playfield restoration project from Australia delayed by customs and quarantine; expected arrival April 15th but subject to customs clearance and potential hold patterns

    high · Bruce: 'I have a package coming. It left Australia... They're talking April 15th. It will be landing in New York City if it's not quarantined by then. It'll have to go through customs.'

  • ?

    restoration_signal: System 11 restoration reveals unexpected Loctite usage on all posts; screw heads breaking during removal; extensive T-nut replacements required; complex back panel with trough detection system and coil mechanisms

    high · Bruce: 'This is the first game, the first System 11 that I've encountered with the issue where they used Loctite on all the posts... I had to replace a ton of screws, ton of T-nuts, pain in the ass.'

    • 2:43
    He's from Norway. He's a dedicated listener of the slam tilt podcast. Hi Tom. And he heard what we're going through over in the States and he donated $20 for a gift certificate. that he said I'll probably never use, so give it away at a tournament or just throw it away, he said. But that was very nice, and we've never asked for anything on this show ever. In how many episodes? 142, you said? It's 142 episodes. We have never asked for anything except for ideas. But if you do feel like giving, we would definitely take it at the Silver Ball Salon because we are now out of work, and I still have to possibly pay rent and all the other bills, including insurance, internet. I still need to have internet. I know people are like, why do you need internet? You're not there. Well, I need security system to be hooked up and the cameras and all the other fun stuff.
    3:38
    Yeah. Your landlord's not letting it slide at all? Not yet. We're going to talk on March 31st, which is rent day. We'll see what happens then. But he's been talking to us at least. That's the good thing. it's very stressful though having no money come in but bills still being there that's the worst thing about it and for those who don't know we're talking about this is the coronavirus yes i'm sure most everyone who knows maybe there's some person who's like what's that i have no idea coronavirus oh corona oh that's bad always in my house in my house always in my house so uh kathy's still working from home we were doing uh meals to go orders we'd still can through the state of new york but kathy got a little worried when she doesn't want to get sick because then she'll jeopardize her real job so we're still getting one paycheck and i have a job i have to go on soon i got a second job oh pinball repair no i'm gonna be working for amazon you're gonna be working for amazon amazon okay what you doing i'm gonna be loading trucks ah i could have swore i would have been exotic dancer but no of course not oh that's closed anyway that's true never mind it's closed yeah exactly Now they closed all the barber shops and everything else. And now 100% of your workforce, if it's non-essential, must stay home. So, yeah, we have a dog, so we're good with that too. But it's just really weird seeing. We actually had at the bar, we did a virtual happy hour today. And we had about 16 or 18 customers get online with us on Zoom. And you actually, we hung out and my wife got drunk with all of them. Okay.
    5:42
    Yeah, so just like being at a bar. The cool thing was everyone was actually putting the bar pictures in the background of their – behind them. So it looked like everyone was at the Silver Ball Saloon. It was pretty cool. Nice. Everyone's been very cool and very nice in buying gift certificates. But if you want to buy one, you can email us at thesilverballsaloon at gmail.com. Don't you have two games for sale? I do. I have a taxi and I have catacomb, which nobody's buying. I'm bidding on because guess what? Nobody wants to go anywhere. I was trying to buy one, but I couldn't get out to the place fast enough. So shit happens. So I lost my pinball.
    6:26
    Oh, the pinball pinball. Pinball, pinball, pinball. The stern pinball. Yeah, he wanted me to come out one day or Tuesday, and I can't spend that much money on anything when I have to try to keep my business afloat. So my next goal is next week. I actually grabbed everything from the bar today.
    6:45
    Excuse me. First flood. I've been busy. I grabbed all my parts and tools and everything from the bar. So my week this week will be getting Cheetah up and running. So that's the goal first, getting Cheetah up and running. Then if I have plenty of time, it looks like we're going to go for longer than I think, which I think we're going to be. I'm going back to the bar. I'm going to grab Stargazer, and I'm going to start doing the playfield swap on that.
    7:13
    And I saw you had a picture of a meteor playfield. I do. I have an NOS meteor playfield I got just before this whole thing went down. And it's an NOS. So all the text is there. All the text is there. All the rubber sizing is there. Rubber sizing. Oh, my. Yes. Oh, my. I can get three inch or an inch and a half or an inch and a half or an inch and a half. Wow. Very impressive.
    7:39
    Yes. Needless to say, it's. Excuse me. Second one already. Wow. And I got it from Argentina. Oh, God. OK, so you got it from that dude. What was the shipping on that? Yep.
    7:54
    $220. but since I can't get one from CPR right, I got one that was right. And mine's not great. Mine's okay, but it has three flipper scrubs, like the flipper bushing is wasted on it and they rubbed in the past. And this one is just a little sunken inserts for being 40-plus years old. Does it have all the holes in it for the mounting and all that? Was it like dimple or whatever it's called? Is it dimpled? It is dimpled. Yes. It's dimpled from the factory. Nice.
    8:28
    And the inserts are pretty nice on them, too. You know, there's no offsetting inserts like, you know, like you see these days where, I don't know why it was a flaw. God, I'm really tired. I don't know why it was a flaw, but I guess they assumed this was a flaw, and they sent it back or sold it as a second. Oh, Stern, back in the day. Yes, yes. But I have it, and I'm happy.
    8:52
    So Cheetah will be next. I'll be working on Cheeto all week, trying to get it fully up and running, ready for the bar, since I have plenty of free time.
    9:00
    And today, I actually went to the bar and converted. I took all the alcohol behind the bar and put it in the beer cooler downstairs. I took all the stuff from the two refrigerators in the kitchen, put it in the beer cooler, made sure the beer cooler does not go above 40 degrees. it stays within the happy refrigeration zone of 34 degrees to 40 and it's all stored down there so now we saving electricity, turned off all the TVs returned all the cable boxes except for one turned off all the power, had to unplug all the power because even when you're plugged in you're still using electricity and you don't want to be doing that and turned the heat down to 50 and today it was 70 degrees in rochester yeah it's very warm today it like snowed monday and today it was 70 degrees yep and tonight it's supposed to get down to 22 degrees yeah yeah northeast baby northeast we love it but then it's gonna be 40s in the rest of the week hopefully and then i won't do so much heat and we just got to ride this thing out all of us since the coronavirus has grown in a week. Oh, my God. In three weeks, we weren't even talking anything about coronavirus, were we? We weren't talking about the last episode.
    10:23
    Nope, not at all. Did you talk about it on your episode last time for your other podcast? Oh, you mean the Silver Ball Chronicles? No, we didn't. Yes. No, okay, see, so. We purposely try to stay out of any current things that are going on because it's supposed to be a history show. It's supposed to be a freestanding show where you can listen to it any time, and there's no references of what's going on. We won't mention the new game that just came out or anything like that. I noticed you haven't talked about me at once. Hmm? You haven't said one word about me. What do you mean about you? We talked about you. Me? I talked about you at the beginning of the show, the last one we just did. Oh, I didn't hear it. Oh, okay. I see how it is. I see how it is also. I should be talked about many, many times as I was plugging you guys away. Oh, oh my.
    11:14
    I mean, I'm assuming you're in there because, I mean, I haven't listened to it. I'll have to listen again and make sure. You'll have to tell me. I know, since Ron does not listen to anything he's in. You got it. So, urine hiatus. How's Dad doing? You said urine. Oh, sorry.
    11:34
    I'm telling him to keep his ass home. Agree. Totally agree. Same with my father. I'm telling him to stay home. My mother's still in New Jersey. We actually have curfews in New Jersey. I knew it was bad when the NBA canceled the season. Oh, yeah. As soon as the NBA, I was like, oh, shit. So I didn't start ordering anything anymore. I stopped ordering stuff.
    11:57
    Yeah, basically, when they canceled the season, I pretty much said, okay, Texas Pinball Festival, TPF, that's done. There's no way that's happening. What's the list of stuff that's been canceled? We go through that, but I knew there was no way that was happening. I basically texted my dad and said, yeah, this is probably not happening. I dropped out of league. I just dropped out of league, and my father said, well, if you're going to drop out, I'll drop out. I messaged our league president and Tim. And then about, I'd say, two hours after I dropped out, he messaged me packets It said pretty much everyone else did the same thing, so that's suspended, postponed, whatever you want to say. Which all IFPA things are now postponed. Yeah, all IFPA. Yeah, you can't run an IFPA, anything now. So what we have, well, the big one was Texas. Yes. Which I was going to, and this sucks. It really sucks for the people running it. Yeah, it sucks for Deep Root.
    13:03
    Yeah. Two years for this, and now no one's going to be there. It sucks for Multimorphic. Yeah, we're just going to bring out their new game. They're going to bring out their new game. The American Pinball new game is going to be there. We'll get into those, but, yep, not going to happen. So, so far, canceled. Let's see what we have.
    13:24
    Let's look for the big shows here. Well, okay. Arcade Expo. Arcade Expo was postponed. Luckily, it's their own building, so they can just do it whenever they want. They already said, if you have a ticket, hold on to it whenever we finally are going to have it. Figure it out. Yeah. The Stern Pro Circuit final, postponed. Texas Pinball Festival, canceled. Midwest Gaming Classic, canceled.
    13:49
    Amlentown Pinfest, that was delayed. Yeah, yeah. They were able to change it until June. Yeah, they're in a fantasy land. That's not going to happen. That show will not happen. Two weeks. No. June 12th and 13th, it will not be. No. Mark my words. It will not be another pinball show until the fall at the earliest. So you're saying Pinberg is canceled. Yep.
    14:16
    Okay. You've heard it here first, folks. Or postponed. They're already looking into it. Now, I don't know. I doubt if they can just reschedule something the size of where they have it. Because that's reserved three, four years in advance. Exactly. But maybe they can, you know, if somebody else drops out, maybe they can move it. You don't know. I mean, they can't have it where they have all the games now. I don't believe that place is big enough. Especially for 1,000 people. The only way it happens is if they postpone it and figure out a way to have it later.
    14:50
    That's the only way that happens. Yeah, they canceled or postponed the whipped tickets were going to go on sale for the first. What's the limit on that? I don't remember. 64 or 128, something like that. Something like that. And, yeah, that was postponed.
    15:07
    Yagpin, that was just announced. That was canceled. The New York City Pinball Championships was canceled. Luckily for them, they hadn't really spent that much money on it yet. They were getting to the point where they would have to put the money down for everything. So they decided to, like, no, we're just going to cancel this. That was another thing I was going to. so yeah oh yeah you were gonna go i think if it's if it's over by then i think expo is going to be pretty big this year everyone's going to be suffering from show withdrawal by that point hopefully my business makes it you're going to make it it's going to be hard because think about it most people who don't have money right now are not going to have money when we get out of this thing it's going to be really tight and i think some businesses are going to go hey we survived done this much and we made maybe somewhat money, you know, maybe we don't need to have this many people.
    16:02
    How do you think it's going to affect the pinball market? Oh, I already see it right now. It's dumping. People are trying to sell things and it's not helping even our near arcade market. It's also the same thing. All markets. Look at the stock market. It's only down 11,000 points. Yep. I think my predictions for this year, you're going to have at least one pinball manufacturer is going to go out of business. I think two. Possibly two. Stern will not even – they won't sell half of what they sold last year.
    16:33
    No. There's just no way. Who's going to buy it? Nobody. All your bars, they're all closed. Yep. They're not going to buy it. Homeowners in this economy, they're going to drop down seven grand on a game. No, they're not. We're all thrilled. hey, I know who's going to be selling games. It's going to be that company in China because they're ramping up their stuff again. Oh, God. The Australian guy. The Chinese zombies?
    16:59
    Yes. I saw the play field. It looked terrible. It was terrible. Yeah. But yeah, it's going to be a long time before we get out of this. Yep. I mean, Stern will still be there, but at least one of the other companies is going to go down. Bye-bye. Because no one's going to buy it. I don't know how Spooky is going to do it because guess what? They have such a small company. How are they going to cover all this stuff and all their equipment? And then when they're ready to sell, people are going to be like, whoa, I don't have the money for this. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Yeah, they're going to be like, sorry, I don't have the money. And they're going to go down the line of people. And they might find one or two people who have money, but it's going to be hard. Yep. It's going to be hard for every company around. I mean, you have Deep Root. Yeah, we're going to come out with two or three games that no one will buy.
    17:53
    American Pinball, I think, will be done. Hot Wheels? No. Yeah, terrible theme, terrible game, terrible look. I don't know. I thought it looked pretty good.
    18:04
    Yeah, I wasn't impressed. But the theme, no one's going to buy Hot Wheels. The animation was terrible looking. Oh, I didn't see any of the animation. Oh, it was terrible looking. I was like, oh, my God. So we don't want to see anyone go out of business. No, it's not, but it's going to be a fact. You're going to see big corporations go out of business. Big corporations? No, they'll be bailed out. Come on. Yeah, of course. All the big corporations get bailed out. It was going to make, like Walmart, they're going to be even bigger because everyone's buying their groceries from online now. And who's most set up for that? Walmart.
    18:41
    Yeah. So even more smaller local grocers are all going to go out of business. This is the beginning of WALL-E. You ever see the movie WALL-E? I did not see the movie WALL-E. Oh, my God, Ron. This is the one movie you need to see while you're in captivity. In captivity.
    18:57
    Isn't it one of those Pixar things? Yes. Yeah. No. Where Megalomart buys the world, takes over, and then they ruin the world. and then all the people have to escape Earth and wait for it to recolonize and be able to be inhabited again. And you see how fat and lazy humans get.
    19:20
    Yeah. But at least it's not zombies. We were talking about zombies for 10 years now. No, it ain't zombies. It's bat flu. It's going to be humanity. No, it's not bat flu. I'm bat flu. It's the bat flu.
    19:35
    But now that we have talked for 20 minutes without talking about pinball except for a couple little bits. Oh, we talk about pinball. We said that companies are going out of business and no one's going to buy pinball machines and the market's tanking. We sell all kinds of great things. All these companies losing stuff.
    19:52
    So let's talk about Hot Wheels. It was revealed at the AMOA show, which seemed to be a surprise to everyone, including their own distributors. Yes. They did a... Interesting, they offset the display. Yeah, which is the left-hand side. Yeah.
    20:16
    I didn't mind that. It made it look unique. Yeah, it was okay. It does make it unique, but I don't know if it was, like, needed. How does it not make it unique when it's different than all their other games? I don't think it made it... What other game has an offset screen like that right now None Okay so it unique then No Okay So that was It's very orange.
    20:40
    Yes. Which you would expect. It's got a spinning car, which reminded me of Mario Andretti. Yes, it did. And that's not good. That's not a good thing, by the way. No, it's not, guys. That was your toy, your spinning car.
    20:53
    Gotta play it. It looked like it would be a flow game. No, it looks like it has some. Yeah. We'll see how that is. I mean, when are we even going to get to play that? There's not going to be a pinball show until the fall. So where are you even going to get to play this game? You're not going to get to play it anywhere.
    21:09
    No. I'm hoping Allentown. I'm going to be optimistic. Okay. Let's do that. You'll be Mr. Optimism. I'll be Optimism for once, right? Yep. We're going to switch roles. I will be Pessimism. You will be Optimism. Yes. And hopefully you're right. I hope I am right. Then we had another game that just came out by Multimorphic. Heist. The Heist. Yeah. It looks really cool, actually. It looks really cool using their platforms. It's got the screen and all the actual physical stuff is in the back of the play field. They added a third flipper. Yep. It's got cool art. It's got a cool-ass crane thing. I agree. That moves like every way imaginable. Everyone loves cranes. I was thinking about this. How many games have cranes? How many games can you name with a crane? So you have this heist game. You have Last Action Hero. You have Junkyard. You have Batman Dark Knight. You have Batman 66. Five. I would even include things like Ghostbusters Premium. It's a crane with a thing on the end of it.
    22:20
    Rescue 911. It's a crane with a helicopter on it. Yeah. Terrible. But a lot of cranes. We love cranes.
    22:29
    Yes, cranes. This thing moves every way imaginable. It follows stuff on the screen, the play field screen. It's pretty cool. Oh, I agree. I like the look of it. Yeah, and here's the issue, though. I looked at the price of it was like $27.50 for the kit. Like, oh, cool. So say you're not really into this multi-morphic thing, or say you're into it, but they just haven't had the theme for you yet, Just nothing that's really interested you. And then this comes out. And you're like, yeah, okay. This is finally the game I wanted. This is the game I want. All right. $27.50. Oh, that's the kit. All right. So I got to get the whole thing, the whole platform. How much is that? Let me order a heist. No, let me order a heist. Okay. Oh, I can't order a heist. I have to order the base model multimorphic with Lexi Lightspeed. And then order. Well, you need the basic platform. So how much does the basic platform cost?
    23:28
    $10K. $10,000. Plus $27.50. Plus shipping and handling. Plus, plus, plus, plus. And it is offering, I think there's a $15,000 one. That's all the games so far.
    23:44
    Yeah. Again, bad timing. The timing could not have been worse on this. No, totally agree. Do you think anyone's going to spend $10,000?
    23:54
    If you have a Multimorphic, which is, I think, only 100 people, and the two people I know who owned it have already sold them. So what does that tell you? They got tired of the games that were with it? You got it. Maybe they're regretting it now. Like, damn it, I should have kept it. Regerting it? Regerts? I have some regerts.
    24:13
    Regerts. It's just we have a lot of winners in the bad timing awards. Yeah. But I have a package coming. Oh, my. It left Australia. Ah, okay. Hopefully it's not infected with viruses. Well, luckily, you know, the virus can only live on three days on stainless steel, so we're good with that. Oh, okay. You can say what it is, Bruce, because you already said it on another podcast at this point. Yes, I know. I am getting Ryan C's ugly, ugly Quicksilver. Why is it ugly? It's pretty broachy. Okay. But it's coming. I'll get it hopefully by, they're talking April 15th. It will be landing in New York City if it's not quarantined by then. It'll have to go through customs and everything like that. Then I can choose to either decide to A, pick it up, B, put in a hold pattern for one month. I have one month to hold it, or C, have it delivered. Well, knowing you, you're either going to hold it or pick it up. Yes. I can't see you having it delivered. But if it's – no, I can have it delivered if it's – if I'm quarantined in the house still by then. Got to do what I got to do. Got to get your Quicksilver. Got to get a quick – got to get a quick – got to get a quick – got to get a quick – got to get your green penises.
    25:34
    Oh, my God. All of them all around. Then I got to start collecting parts. You don't have parts? I don't have a play field. It needs a play field. It needs a whole play field. Wait a minute. You're going to get the whole thing. What was the point? Like building one. Has a wiring harness. It runs.
    25:51
    I had to change the voltage from 230 to 120. The cabinet's pretty good. Everything's there, like plastics, everything like that, you know, all the posts, all the mechanics, all the electronics. I got it for a pretty good price, especially what they're going for. The last two were going for five and six. Insane. I know. Well, maybe not now anymore. Who knows? Pricing's gone way down. Yep. Unfortunately, I did not sell my Star Trek Next Generation soon enough. Actually, I didn't even put it up. Glad I sold the Dracula one I did, at least. There you go. Make it so. Make it so, number one. What else? The Deep Root reveal is still happening, right? They're going to stream it? They have postponed it, and they're going to stream it, but they have not put a date out yet for that. Oh, so they did postpone it. They did postpone it. They postponed it. It was supposed to be three days ago. No, it wasn't. No, no, no, no, no, no. It was going to be the day before Texas Pinball Festival, wasn't it? March 26th. It's going to be March 26th. Hold on, I'm reading right now. It was possible to plan our implement a week away, so it didn't give an update when it's going to be.
    27:07
    Okay. March 16th, our pinball launch date event that was scheduled for March 25th has been delayed, postponed, they call it. All right. I was closer than you. Still, yeah. Check back here for more details. Again, we're going to reveal games. No one's going to get to play them. Nope. But luckily we have the twips in two weeks since now they were changed from the Texas pinball, and they're going to be now online. First one. Hey, at least they have that. And if Jeff needs any hosts, like, you know, coming in and saying hi, We all have free time now. Yeah, we all have free time. We all have free time. We all have free time to announce Jurassic Park as the game of the year. It is. Which is what's going to happen.
    27:52
    What else do we have? We're not going to be the best podcast. What? We're not going to be the best podcast. We weren't even nominated.
    28:02
    Yes, we were. No, we weren't. Yes, we were. We were in the top seven. Our name was in the top seven. Yes, it was. seven even even part-time that's hard to believe peace out bitches wow so we were in the top seven what we got another review review on what sir on apple podcast formerly itunes yes we wow second consecutive episode i think someone's left us a review uh we got a five-star review and uh it's from siggy sour i don't know who that is and it says flex siggy biscuit flex flex mcgillicuddy i have no idea what that means man junk man junk show me your man junk man junk okay yeah maybe it's code but uh we got five stars i don't like it hey that's all matters okay damn i was hoping for another negative review we could ask people never look at reviews except for to stars.
    29:06
    Never. Oh, they just look at the star rating? Yep, they never read them. Okay. We got a five-star review. You should throw people off. Give someone a five-star review and in the description just say like, you guys suck. You're the worst podcast I've ever heard. Like, huh? Does he understand how the star system works?
    29:25
    Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Let's see. What else do I have? Cancellations. Blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm trying not to be negative here, but it's kind of my nature. Yeah, more than me lately. Yeah, yeah. I'm quite negative. Well, okay. On the bright side, what better time to debut my streaming character? Which was? I haven't. I haven't debuted him. No one can give me a cool name.
    29:50
    I still don't even know what I'm going to do for the character. But I have been putting the rig back together, finally.
    29:56
    Cornelius Butlick. Okay. I'd rather be called Yukon Cornelius that would rule Yukon Slapsave there you go Slapsave Yukon alright but I will be streaming something probably this weekend which by the time this airs will be the previous weekend really what are you going to stream I'm going to stream the oh okay I need to call out someone Dennis Griesel who said Mousing Around sucked.
    30:37
    Of course, I'm sure he'll email and say, I didn't say sucked. Yeah, but he said it wasn't good. It wasn't a good game. Poor Dennis. He has bad taste in games. I mean, I would say to me, Mousing Around is probably the second best System 11 game.
    30:55
    Let me think about that now. Yeah, you think about it. I give it a top five. Oh, okay. Okay. Let's do it.
    31:03
    Bruce's top five System 11s. Start with number five. No, no. You can't say no specific order. We need the right order.
    31:13
    Taxi. Taxi is number five. Wow. Okay. So four of the games are better than Taxi. All right. Yep. Totally agree. Number four, Whirlwind. Jokers. Oh, no, no. Oh, Whirlwind. No, Whirlwind's number four? Wow. Okay. Number three, I'm going to go with your one we were talking about right now. We were talking about Mousing Around. Yep. Number two, for nostalgia only. It's a terrible playing game, but the sound and the music make it really good for me. It's Black Knight 2000. Okay. And number one, do you know what it is? Roller Games? No.
    31:53
    Radical. Oh, God. It is so original, the play field and the sounds, now that it's fixed with Soaring Drum, that you can't get any more, it plays great. It's a fun game.
    32:08
    That's funny, because I had Whirlwind. What are your top five? I really didn't have it. I had Whirlwind was definitely one to me. Wow, no way. Mousing Around 2, Taxi 3.
    32:19
    That's just kind of my top three. Can't think past three, I see. I can't think past three. I'm not intelligent enough. but, man, Mousin took so long to go through.
    32:32
    Oh, I can imagine. Which is funny. I mean, the top side of the plate field is actually quite easy because there's, like, all plastic. One big ramp. It's all plastic. There's a bunch of big plastic pieces, and you take them off. But this is the first game, the first System 11 that I've encountered with the issue where they used Loctite on all the posts. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I've never experienced that before. So I got to experience trying to take the post off and the head just breaking off of every screw. The T-nuts were just falling out all over the place. I had to replace a ton of screws, ton of T-nuts, pain in the ass. And then there's the back panel.
    33:13
    Oh, my God, there's so much shit behind that back panel. Oh, my God, yes, sir. And how many things do you think are behind that back panel? What do you think is behind that back panel, Bruce? There's a coil, a diverter. Okay. What else? A couple switches.
    33:29
    What else? And part of the plastic ramp. Okay. The plastic ramp just kind of goes into it, so I won't even include that. It's not attached to the panel. The back panel has a full trough, basically, with a three-switch trough that's on a board. Yes. So that literally, you could fire three balls up there, and it would be able to detect all three of them. It has a fourth switch at the entrance, so it can detect when you've actually gone into the hole. Oh, my. And then it has the coil that fires to, and it's a neat little mech. It will do one ball at a time, and it has a flasher. And it has a full light board, which is the length all the way where it says million and all that. That's one light board. And with all that shit, guess how many connectors they give you? Three. Two.
    34:24
    They give you one for the light board and then one for the switch board of three switches. So what I did is I made connectors for the fourth switch, the flasher, and the coil.
    34:38
    You smart boy, you. So you can actually remove the damn thing if you have to. Because if anything goes wrong back there, you're screwed. You're screwed. And the interesting thing is, why is there a full three-switch trough back there? Think about it. Because they didn't have to pay anything else. They already had existing parts. That's why. Really? You think so? Because it just seems like a waste because they're all wired and they all register. But the ball, it literally can never have more than one ball there because as soon as the ball goes through the hole, the diverter shuts, it moves the diverter off. So you can't throw any more balls up there. Unless it was if the diverter is broken, you'll keep throwing balls up there. But still, it only needs one switch of the three to know there's a ball that needs to be released.
    35:29
    I agree. So I was thinking you could do some cool shit with coding with that where you can do maybe a double jackpot and a triple jackpot. Think about it. That would be cool.
    35:41
    Jackpot's ready. Say you still have three balls. You shoot one. it goes up there you have i don't know 10 seconds eight seconds for a double jackpot you get the second one up there and you have so many seconds for triple jackpot and if you get three of there you get a triple jackpot like that team is not jackpot the only thing bad about that game it's jackpot heavy uh no now when you set it up hard like mine and you okay well and it's hard to get into multi-ball and even when you get in the multi-ball it doesn't last that long i don't need about you and performance things. No, not at all. I'm not going to eat while we're on the podcast.
    36:19
    I'm starving. I'm okay. You and your performance things. Me and my performance thing. Don't you think that would be cool? I think that would be cool. At least do a double jackpot. Because everything is there physically to do it. Just throw it out there. It would work really well. I think it would. But man, I had so many... Every time I... Like, the flippers I thought had been rebuilt because they were aligned perfectly, like, when they went up. And usually when they wear, usually one will wear more than the other and it will be cockeyed. But, no, when I took them apart, they were hammered.
    36:58
    And the other thing, sometimes you just need to replace everything. Like, I replaced some of it. And there was some play, and the play was actually in the flipper bushing. itself, because it's a piece of plastic and it does wear inside through 30 years. That's probably never been replaced. So I put a new one in. Then I had issues with the one flipper. No matter how tight I put it, the flipper kept moving. So I had to go into my bag of old school Williams-Palls, NOS Williams-Palls, and put one of them on there. And that works great, of course. There you go. They're different because they have the Allen screw on one side and then the three-eighths on the other, as opposed to the new ones that just have the three-eighths. They're just not as good.
    37:48
    What else did I have to do on that? It was just every time I thought I had something done, something else would break. The diverter was a pain in the ass to get working. That diverter.
    37:59
    The diverter on that game is one coil. Yeah, I can imagine. It's always open. It's one coil, and it's not like a flipper coil. It doesn't have the hold winding or anything like that. No, it's just one coil. Yeah, so how do you think it works, Bruce? Tell me, how would a two-position diverter work with one coil that there is no hold voltage? It just fires.
    38:20
    Because it's probably spring-loaded to tell how much tension, and then when the coil fires, it pushes it the other way.
    38:26
    Kind of. They have this bizarre triangular plastic piece that the thing rides in. So if you fire the coil once, it'll go into position one. And if it fires again, it'll release it back to position two.
    38:42
    Thundercats, ho! The problem is, it didn't work right. And what it was, is it needed a stiffer spring. Oh, yeah. Hey, baby. Sometimes. Because it wasn't working, so I took the whole thing apart, which was a pain in the ass.
    38:59
    And I expected it to be... It wasn't what I expected. I expected it to be a ton of play and have grease all over it and all that, but no, it was actually not in bad shape at all. It's like, oh. So I cleaned it up, put it back together, and it still didn't work right. It kept trying to catch the first position, and it could not. So I did some research and found at least one post where someone said they had to put a stiffer spring in there, and I did, and I fixed it. There you go. So even with all that mechanical shit, one stiffer spring fixed that. So I will be definitely streaming that. Of course, one of the displays has gone now. The right display is missing. Yes, because they are left and rights. Yes, and it's missing a segment across all of them on that display, which from what I'm reading means one of the chips is bad. The weird thing about it is it will intermittently work and not work.
    39:50
    So I don't know if the chip is in a process of failing. Yeah, it seems more like a connection thing, but I re-soldered the chip.
    39:58
    But it didn't do anything. It does the exact same thing. Sometimes it'll start working, and then it doesn't work. And it's like, oh, no problem. I can get an LED display for that, and I saw how much they cost.
    40:10
    Yeah, they're like $200. Yes, they are. That's the cost of playing with pinball nowadays. Oh, $200 for two? No.
    40:22
    It's actually like four displays, though, because they're long. They are long. Yeah, but there's left and a right. So I have to get both. Very long. Which, of course, I had to search everywhere to try to find someone who sells the left and right version. Yeah, I do. Because there's only like seven or eight games that use that setup. I think Radical is one of them. Bugs Bunny, Birthday Ball uses it. Mouse and Round uses it. Yeah.
    40:51
    Okay, who else? Shorter. Oh, that's a good question. See? Hmm. Oh, I like that. Okay. Elvira Yeah Elvira Riverboat Gambler I think was one of them Atlantis That doesn count That doesn count Does that even use the 16 That's a bally bally. It uses the same positioning where they are, and it uses two.
    41:18
    Actually, you know what it uses four? You're right. It uses four individuals on the bottom. That's right.
    41:23
    Okay, so we got four. And while you're thinking, I will cheat and look up the answer. Wow. So I thought this was my test. I was doing it for you. Yeah, but you know more stuff than I do. Keep thinking. I'm thinking. Is it eight? I don't think it's eight. All right. I got it in front of me now. Finally. Okay. So there's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight games. Wow. Eight games. So here we go. Eight games. You at home. Okay. See if you can guess the eight games that used the two 16-digit displays, It's alphanumerics in a side-to-side configuration. So it's unique.
    42:04
    Oh, God. I only have four. So far, everything we named was... Right. Except me. Riverboat Gambler, no. That actually has another unique thing. But Bugs Bunny, Birthday Ball, Elvira and the Party Monsters, Mousing Around, Radical. What else? I can't tell you. I am stumped. Let me see. Big money. Big prizes. Oh, big show. Big game. Big show. You know? No, not big show. Game show. All right.
    42:35
    That's one. Yeah. Dungeons and Dragons is Bally, so I can't say that one. Well, this, yeah. I'm trying to get a clue for this that I won't give it away too much.
    42:48
    Okay. Mixmaster. Oh, Dr. Dude. And you had Elvira, yeah. So that's one left. It also uses, it's around the same time, it's like mousing around in those, it's got the same carrot flipper things.
    43:07
    It's got really bizarre artwork. It was at the Sanctum. I don't know if it is anymore. Oh. I'll give you a clue. It used to be around where like old Chicago was. Yeah, I know. It used to be right there. It used to be to the right of it, which it isn't anymore. We made fun of it, actually, because I did so well on it. I can't think of it. I know what I'm looking at. But you know what I'm talking about. You can even picture where it is, but you can't think of it. What's it called? Transporter. The Rescue, correct. The Rescue, yeah. So those at home, the two alphanumeric 16-digit displays that are side to side were only used on Bugs Bunny's birthday ball, Doctor Dude, Avira and the Party Monsters game show, Mousing Around, Pool Sharks Radical, and Transporter the Rescue. Oh, we didn't say Pool Sharks. Oh, yeah, we didn't say Pool Sharks. Shit. Pool Sharks is another one.
    43:52
    Which is a terrible game. It's okay. That's okay. I don't mind it. Actually, out of this list, the only real stinker is Bugs Bunny. Of course. I think everything else is passable there. Yeah. Even Game Show, yeah. I'd say everything else is passable. Game Show is about second worst. Yeah.
    44:13
    But Bugs Bunny is kind of in its own category. Oh, God. It's just stinker. It's in its own category of suck. Yeah. I like that. Own category of suck. Yeah. Bad suck. Not a good... Bad suck. Okay. All right. I was talking about Mouse and Around. Yeah, so I'll be streaming that soon. To a theater near you. Oh, yeah, and I was calling out Dennis Creasel. Are you high? Yeah. Mouse and Around is awesome. You need to play a correct Mouse and Around. Sounds like he played a bad Mouse and Around. He was talking about hitting the center ramp all day. No. I know on mine, if you try to hit the three bank, instant death.
    44:50
    You wouldn't go for it anyway. It should be. The way it should be. Plus it's running the correct software, so that won't matter anyway. That has been fixed. What software is that? Oh, that would be the Soren ROM. Where do you get these Soren ROMs? You can't anymore. What?
    45:07
    Yeah, Soren took them down. But I'm not going to say anything because I don't want to have any problems.
    45:14
    Hopefully, eventually, he will have them back up. We don't want to get in any trouble here at the Slamtail Podcast, so please do not ask us for any more ROMs.
    45:24
    Ron Hallett. I'm sorry to say that out loud. I do not want to get in trouble. But then again, if you're playing at Pinberg, assuming it does happen. If we get to. If we get to it, and you're playing all those System 11 games with progressive jackpots, and all of a sudden they don't have progressive jackpots? It's a good thing. Yeah. Actually, there's probably no organization on the planet who has more custom ROM games than Replay and Fast Dots. Yeah. Problem is, I still have the problem. The only problem I have is every game should state it, not just being assumed.
    45:59
    Oh, what? You think every System 11 game should say none? None for the rest of Jackpot. No, there's games there that have also issues like that, like 24.
    46:08
    And with... Was it CSI? Sopranos. Yes, CSI, Sopranos. CSI had like special software that just Lyman did that only exists in Papa. Yes. Yep. So I think every game that they put out on the floor that has modified ROMs should state it. I gotcha. And my game room might have signs on every game. I know. That's great. And you do usually have a sign at the beginning and end of your game room. Yeah, I have the sign that has all the differences. But I really should do, it should be more like a sign on the back glass. Yeah, but at least it's somewhere. I can't, there's nothing for Papa. I thought they did on some of the games. Oh. Okay. Only when it says, like, no extra ball. But you don't know if it's progressive or not. And it's not factory, so most people don't see that. So it should be stated as a change. Like they do with tilt end game. Okay. I gotcha.
    47:08
    Sorry. Just a pet peeve of mine. God knows you have enough. Oh, my God, do I. We did have something that did happen while we were away that actually happened and wasn't canceled. And that was the, okay, am I saying, did they call them the Nationals or is it the North American Championship? What's it called? North American Championships. Okay. Yes, North American. That's where all the state champions get together and battle it out for ultimate supremacy of North America.
    47:41
    And the winner was? A 17-year-old who could stay up late. Oh, yes, that's right, because it went to 2.30, 3.30 in the morning. I thought it was 4.40 Eastern time. That's too late. 4.40 a.m. the next day. Yeah. And the winner was Colin Urban. Yes. Congratulations, Colin.
    48:07
    And then they had the Women's Championship, which was won by Sunshine Bond. Congratulations. They finished much earlier.
    48:16
    Yes, they did. Although they did have an issue with the bracket where I think Sunshine had to wait for like two hours for her next opponent. That had to be painful.
    48:26
    Then the next day we had Pinmasters, which is the golf format. Yeah. Which I like. I'm in the minority, obviously. I like it too. It's like I always love when you watch, well, you're not into golf, right? So the golf. No. Yeah, and the Masters are canceled, postponed also. But they have the U.S. Open, and that's when they usually have the course set up ridiculously hard. And you'll see like these best golfers in the world taking like eight, nine, ten on a hole, and it's great. You just love watching it. You just love watching the carnage. And it's something about the pin masters that's like that too. See someone is having an awesome card, they're doing great, and then they just blow up on one game and take like a 10. I'm kind of sick like that. And you're never out of it. Like if you're head-to-head, like in the finals they do three-match series, you could have someone have a hole-in-one the first two games, and then they blow up with a 10 the last game and lose. Anything is possible.
    49:30
    That's kind of why I like it. So you're not a fan? You used to run golf tournaments, Bruce. Used to be a staple. I did. I like it, actually. It's just, you know, when Steve Bowden's actually saying he's going to retire. Oh, retire from big golf? Yeah. The Twin Masters?
    49:46
    Yeah. What does that tell you? And that was won by Escher Lefkoff. So it was another youngster. Was that his father? Hmm? It was his son, right? Escher, yes. Yes, yes. No, it wasn't Escher's dad, as he's known now. Yes, exactly. I did like in the finals, they must have had the microphone on on the rig.
    50:08
    So I got to hear Escher say shit. I swear. I got to hear Keith Elwin just dropping F-bombs. I was like, wow. He's really pissed if he's dropping F-bombs. Most unusual, Captain.
    50:21
    Oh, yes. I loved it. Like, yeah. The finals, I think Escher had three hole-in-ones in three games. Wow. Nice. One of them was 24, which was his 24. Oh, wow. because they brought games there.
    50:35
    So, hell, I'd pick my own game, too, if I brought one. I would, too. Yeah. But you don't know this because you weren't watching, but we got a shout-out. From who? Robert Byers.
    50:47
    Wow. Thank you, Robert. I'm going to play it for you right now. Okay. And actually, two people who have been on our show many times. Well, Robert was on once, but the other person who's been on our show many times was also mentioned in this little exchange. What they were doing, let me set a little background. What they must have done for the players, like they had their picture. Who sucks at pinball? Hey, this guy sucks at pinball.
    51:11
    They must have asked the players to, like, give us something that you want us to say about you on stream, like each player. So when they would have a particular player, this is so-and-so, and then they would say he, blah, blah, blah, or she, blah, blah, blah, you know, whatever they wanted them to say about them. So Robert had a very interesting thing he wanted them to say about him Who are we going to watch? It is the New York guy And the Texas guy, Byers Okay, Robert Byers and Greg Paparelli or Waparelli? And it's going to be on soccer, so this is even extra fun I know him as Waparelli so much that I can't even remember his real name He's got a jersey that, you know, a shirt that he always wears. It says Waparelli. But so just to set this up, Robert Byers was Texas. He, frequent author of letters written to the Slam Tilt Pinball podcast. Mail ball bag for some reason.
    52:16
    Shout out to Ryan there from Comet Pinball. a bunch of your LEDs are currently in my Mouse and Around. That's fucking funny though.
    52:27
    I had it on, I think I was working on Mouse and Around as I had that on. I'm like, did he just say what I thought he said? That's fucking classic. So thank you. Love you, Robert. Yes, the male ball bag gets mentioned on the stream. I thought you'd like that. Oh, that was fucking classic. I love it. See, we're still hip and still into this thing. We're still into this thing. We're going to make it, folks. We're going to make it after all. We're going to make it. We're not going to make it anymore. We're not going to. Okay.
    53:06
    We went from Mary Tyler Moore to Twisted Sister. That was weird. Twisted Sister. That was weird. Well, speaking of the mail ball bag, let's see if we have anything in the mail ball bag. We have a mail ball bag. Oh, my. We have 12 new likes on our Facebook page. We do? We do. So 12 suckers have joined us and enjoyed our hospitality on our Facebook page. So welcome, you 12 unlucky bastards. You must be really bored and like us.
    53:37
    Let's see. Episode 141. Okay, so I haven't read this one yet because it's referencing our previous episodes. So that would be technically impossible. So, oh, okay. This email is from Dennis Creasel.
    53:47
    Oh, no. I apologize for my completely wrong comments about Master of... No, it doesn't say that. It says, let's see. First, Bruce, while quite a funny podcaster, is not funnier than me. My refined style cannot be outpaced by his overt reliance on crudeness.
    54:03
    Oh, no, no, no. Crudeness is always funnier than sly wit, which I don't think he's that sly or wit. Okay. All right. Second, Bruce's episode 141, Games to Like, is bullshit. Oh, he's got you on this one. Bruce cannot claim that Bad Girls as a game. I can. Bruce cannot claim Bad Girls as a game he likes because he called it a game he hates back in episode 13.
    54:31
    Okay. You can hear it here. 49 minutes into the episode, Bruce failed, failed, failed to explain his change in opinion, relying on the listeners to forget his passwords of poison. No. Do you really think I'd forget? My great eye, lidness, wreathed in flame, pierces stone, flesh in hypocrisy. What do you got to say to that? and he says keep up the good work Dennis I've had a person who's local to us own one and I got to play it much more and I will give it that's why I got it better props but you hated it and now you like it no I like it better than what it was but you said a game you like it's a game I like compared to any other during those years the 87, 88, 89 Monte Carlo terrible oh my god what's it called? There's a couple others around there that are really, really bad. One I do want to play more is Diamond Lady. I want to play Diamond Lady a little more. Anything with a drop target as the ball saver between the flippers is something I've got to try. It's pretty darn cool. I know. I kind of agree. I like to try. But there's a lot of bad games during that era, too. And so you kind of go, and I only had a little bit of time back in episode 13 of that Bad Girls, because I was going mostly by art. When I played more of it, it reminds me, as I said, in the future episode, it's an 8-Ball Deluxe with Multi-Ball. Which is better than anything else you can say about 8-Ball Deluxe. Okay. And I stated my... And if he goes back to my episode 13 thing, I stated mostly it was a terrible game because of artwork and that kind of stuff, and it was terrible for hideousness. I proved on my stats on episode 141, which he did not state, as like most media outlets do these days. So let's go with that one there, butto. Okay. By the way, when are you going to be on the Pinball Network? You were supposed to be like mid- I was supposed to be on there, but that didn't work out. We had a conflict with employees at the time. But now I'm free to come on. So come on, get me, bitches.
    57:09
    So you hear that, Zach? He's all ready for you. He's available any week now. Yep. In the coronavirus land. Coronavirus land.
    57:20
    My corona. Got an email from Jim, who sent me a link that basically was the episode of Beavis and Butthead where they think Beavis is the messiah in his cornholio form. He isn't. And they all get him TP, like lots of TP. Yeah. Keep it for my bungle. Yeah.
    57:45
    So thank you. Got an email from Snow from Colorado about a possible new segment. Ever considered a segment a la car talk? Are you familiar with that segment?
    57:59
    Refresh my memory. Oh, I was going to ask you if you knew what it was. No. I think it's a deal where people would have issues with their cars, and they would write in and they would try to diagnose what the issue is and then they'd ask them at the end.
    58:15
    We did that in the beginning. Well, were you diagnosed tech problems or debate challenging tournament rulings, real or hypothetical? Then follow up with the game's owner to see what the malfunction truly was or ask Josh how the IPA would handle the situation. Keep a tally of right answers, which, of course, I would win, and at the end of the year, the loser buys dinner or does a playfield swap for the winner or whatever. Clayfield Swap, holy fuck. Wow, that's pretty mean. Just a thought. Thanks for all you do. Thank you, Snow. Thank you. Thank you, Snow. We do that. If people want to write in with any tech conflicts and Papa or IFVA, we'll be able to do both. If you want any tech issues, send them in. Yep, I'm up for it. We'll see if we can diagnose your issue. But you'll have to be patient with us because every few weeks, It's not like you're going to write in and – Hey, we've got more free time. Oh, don't start. Don't start. Yes. I don't have more free time for editing. No. No, we're not going there. Every other day now. No. Yes. What else are you going to fucking do? Right? Got an email from Soren.
    59:24
    Soren. Everyone check out his YouTube channel. He put up a new tech video. His YouTube channel is called Dots and Loops. that's just dots and loops. And actually, if you just go to YouTube and you search for the Tilt video, because he did the Tilt one that showed how the Plumbob works and the earplug trick and all that. He has a new one on how to diagnose your pinball switch matrix.
    59:49
    Which is always nice to know. Which is very interesting. Some people do get very confused with it. Well, yes. Even I was confused watching it. But he was able to bypassing diodes and making phantom things occur. and yeah. Very interesting. Check it out. I'll have to read it. I'll have to watch that. Check it out. Again, that's Dots and Loops. And also thank you. He sent me some cool tech information that we will be able to use for a Silverball Chronicles episode. Ooh.
    60:21
    So, uh, Stomp West. Uh, yeah. Stomp West. Right now it's still on, but I guarantee we're probably going to be postponing the next couple days.
    60:31
    And then we'll figure out when we'll do it. What we're going to do is, and when it gets closer to the end of March, probably the next episode we'll probably post saying, hey, it's going to be canceled. Do you want your money back? I have no problem giving people money back if they don't want to come. I don't know how people feel about that, but I am not going to hold your money. If you need money, trust me, I'll go right back to you. And I'll say, as far as I know, all the shows that have canceled so far, they basically gave people back their money. Yeah. if you ask for it if you ask for it but like for texas i'm cool if if you paid it's good for next year if you don't want to refund if you want to refund you had to tell them like i want a refund i think you actually have to the end of uh this month to tell me if you want to refund i already got my tournament refund back i also got my um new york city pinball championships i've got my money back for that i haven't got my money back yet for that but i got the notice saying they're going to refund it. Yeah. I was able to change... Here's a funny story. So,
    61:35
    my plane ticket for Texas I flying United The subhuman fare as I call it Grunt You down below cranking the gears You can't choose seats. You can't bring carry-on. It's only a personal item, which is my backpack, so that's fine. It's the cheapest one they have. You can't cancel. You can't change the tickets to something else. It's the subhuman fare, as I call it. So when Texas got canceled, the airport started doing – I can't remember what it's called. You'd be eligible to change your flights or cancel your flights.
    62:14
    Now, they wouldn't let me cancel the flight, but they let me reschedule it. The funny thing is it went to the website, and the website said, like, you are eligible for this. You can reschedule it. So then I tried to do it, and it blew up with an error. So then I called the number, which is the automated system. I tried to change it and it told me I couldn't change it because I had the subhuman UnitedFair. It's like, but your website just said I could change it. So I tried the app. That actually worked. The app let me change it. It charged, it hit my credit card, but then it blew up at the end and said I need to call another number to get my tickets.
    62:50
    So I called that number and I've called it about three times. Every time I call it, it tells me I have an estimated hold time of over two hours. Yeah, I had to change my appointment for our cruise. Our cruise is in the beginning of July. Ooh, okay. Yeah, we canceled that, and we changed it now to the beginning of October. That'll probably work. Yeah. I said a positive thing. If we have cruises, company's still around. Yeah, if we have travel industry at all. Yeah. Because you want to talk about getting pounded. Oh, yeah, they're getting hard hit. I mean, at least my father got his cruise in before any of this happened. Yeah. He was in February, thank goodness. Yep, so did my friends.
    63:35
    I was super bummed, though, because Texas is like one of my first shows. It is actually my first show of the year.
    63:41
    And, yeah, I just have a feeling I will not be going to anything this year until October. Don't know. Hope I'm wrong.
    63:49
    You'll be wrong, too. I want Pimberg. That's the one I want. Ain't I always wrong? Yeah, you are. So that's good. So if I think there's not going to be a Pinnberg, that means there clearly is going to be a Pinnberg. I'm thinking Pinnberg will happen. If they can postpone it. If they can postpone it, yes.
    64:06
    I don't think July is enough. No. Two months from today would be March, April, May. May 17th. Or May 20th now.
    64:15
    We still got a month and a half. Oh, till what? Till Pinnberg. Month and a... Huh? No. Pinnberg's like four months away. I know what I'm saying. They're saying it's going to go, you know, the curve and the spike. Oh. They say it's two months.
    64:31
    So. Well, what do you think? Do you think when the curve goes down, it's like, okay, everyone can go out and party now. That's what they're doing in China. We'll see if they get another spike or not. They just, no, no. Don't you listen to the news while you're sitting at home doing nothing? Actually, I have the CNN coronavirus update page. Oh, I don't even watch that. I watch BBC. Yes, BBC. Actually, they are the most neutral of everything. They are neutral.
    65:02
    That's actually when 9-11 happened. That's where I went for my news source. How sad is that? I've been going to them since like the 90s, BBC. It's actually, I don't look at CNN at all. CNN, Fox, forget about it. They're both terrible. So, BBC, the official news station of the Slamto Podcast. Oh, Slamto Podcast.
    65:22
    We should get sponsored. Yeah, hey, BBC, come on. Sponsor your ass here. Well, I believe Martin from the Pinball News, I believe he works for the BBC, if I recall.
    65:37
    So other than that, nothing new and exciting. You know, it's just been a pretty boring week of nothing. Yeah, that's why I figured we had to record soon, but I didn't want it to be all super negative and not have anything to talk about. We need to do something funny. We were actually lucky enough at the bar where people bought a lot of gift certificates. I'm very grateful. And as I said, if you want to purchase some, just email us at thesilverballsaloon at gmail.com. Or is it Yahoo? It's Gmail. Yahoo? No, no, no. I still use Yahoo for myself. Is it AOL? No. It's Yahoo. That's right. You still have a Yahoo account. Yes, you do. I do. It's actually a good one. You've got to admit, my password is pretty good. Yes, your email address is pretty good. I don't know what your password is, but your email address is pretty good. You probably have trouble getting that now. One, two, three, four, five. That's a terrible password. It sounds like something someone would have in their luggage.
    66:42
    Change my luggage! Yeah. So I'm assuming Stern is probably going to delay the release of their next pin because there's no point releasing it now. No, no, no. I think of anything.
    66:59
    Just honestly, this is probably the best time to keep their employees busy with code updates. Get the rest of the code updates they want to do. Build the next two. Get ahead of the game a little bit. Get them someone they go out on the production floor. they're ready to go. You can get a nice jump start. The code is at .8 or .9 instead of .6 or .5. Take the time. According to Keith Elwin, he already has his next game, the play field's already done. He's on to the game after that. Yep, which is cool. Hi, Keith. So what we're saying is Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles ain't going to be for a little bit. No. Okay. And neither is Guns N' Posers or anything like that. Guns N' Posers. How about Heavy Metal?
    67:48
    Oh, God. Singing Sebastian Bach, really? Oh, Sebastian Bach's going to? Okay. Yes, it's been released now that he's going to be singing on Heavy Metal. Okay. Sorry. It's still $8,200.
    68:01
    Which is, yeah. Way too fucking much. It is. For a DMD pinball machine. Mm-hmm. Now you just brought me down again. Oh.
    68:13
    Well, you know what? You know who's really going to make out? Streamers. Yeah, okay. Think about it. Especially the ones who already basically just make a living streaming from home. They're set. Yeah. That's like the best gig ever.
    68:30
    Introverts unite. Oh, we can't unite. We can't. You can't, though. Well, that would be me, not you, Bruce. That's one thing I would not describe you as, as an introvert. No, not at all. But I'm going to be working on games. I'm going to start setting up. I already have two games set up in the garage. The one is the Cheetah that's been set up for the longest time. I'm going to try to get that all working. I got a lot of light sockets to replace. I get that bitch working.
    68:57
    Do some connectors on it. And then I'm going to set up both at the same time, Gametron 1 and Gametron 2. So, Gammatron 1 was blowing fuses on a couple coils, which I don't know why. I replaced the coil, and it still burns up. And I've changed driver boards and everything else, so it's kind of weird. I think it's a hung-up switch somewhere. And then I'm going to get number 2 next to it working, hopefully. And then you will see two Gammatrons next to each other. Yay!
    69:28
    Ultimate head-to-head. Gammatron head-to-head. Beat that. I think so. That would be hard to beat. You said hard. And beat. You know what? You should get like a... You should stream it. You should stream you working on the games. Yeah. Oh, I can't because I don't have the password for the Slam Tilt streaming or anything like that. I only have a laptop. I don't have no rig or anything like that. You don't need a rig. You just need one webcam.
    69:55
    I have my tape blocked off on my screen because I don't want anybody watching me while I'm doing other stuff. Oh, a better webcam.
    70:02
    I don't have anything. We've got to get you a streaming thing. I don't want to spend any money right now. You know that. I'm trying to save all the money for the old bar. Trying to keep the magic alive. But I'll actually, if you give me the stuff to get on Twitch, I'll do it just on my computer. Point it to that thing and just go away like Chuck was doing a couple days ago on Rolling Stone. Yeah, but he actually has a rig. Shut up, you. Okay. Are you just going to have the camera on your laptop? Oh, that's going to be wonderful. The sound will be superior, I'm sure. I'll put it on my head. I will get a little $19 camera, and I'll put it on my head so you can see exactly what I'm doing. You get all sick and everything like that. Oh, my gosh.
    70:48
    Bruce on stream. We need to make this happen. Oh, make it so, number one. What I should do, if I ever got the second rig, like Carl's new rig that's like super stripped down it's much lighter Carl D'Angelo who just finished and beat Simpsons pinball party oh god that's right for those who don't know Carl D'Angelo whose twitch channel is IE pinball his latest thing is he would just take these games and get to the wizard mode like the ones you like Lord of the Rings Valinor or Valinor, whatever the hell it's called. He did Alice Cooper's Billion Dollar Babies. He did, what was the other one he did? I think he did The Wizard of Oz.
    71:38
    Yeah, now he did Simpsons, which is, whatever. An hour and 44 minutes, I think it was, before he got to it. Yeah, but the actual game, it was like 40 minutes to get to the super-duper, mega-extreme.
    71:54
    Yeah. No. Game still sucks. Sorry. You can't help that play field. That's all I got to say. I think he was talking about doing Big Buck Hunter next. No, God. I guess that's super hard to get to.
    72:10
    It's really hard. I want someone to try NBA. Dead silence. Yeah, I don't want to hear more about it. I swear I'm the only person who likes that. I think me and Todd McCulloch, the former NBA player, are the only two people in the world who like NBA.
    72:29
    Well, if anyone else likes NBA, let me know. Nobody does. See, at least I'm consistent with the games I like, unlike you, Mr. Bad Girls. I hate it. No, I like it. I explained my situation two and a half years later. Meh. Yeah, okay. No, you didn't explain it well. Okay. How can you hate something and then, oh, now I like it? It's very easy. Like, I hated you in the beginning, but now I like you. Oh, okay. So you decide on things way too quickly is what you're saying. Exactly. I'm a knee-jerker. So all these games that you say you hate that you haven't played yet, you might like them. Okay, I have one funny thing about this whole coronavirus. One funny thing. Just one. Okay. One major thing. Well, are we supposed to call it coronavirus? Are we supposed to do the COVID whatever? COVID-19.
    73:22
    Is that what we're supposed to do? First, press conferences. Right now in the state of New York, you're not allowed to have more than 10 people in a room at the same time. When they do the New York State press conference with Governor Cuomo, there's at least 35 people in the room.
    73:40
    They're breaking their own fucking rules. I'm sure they're six feet away from social distancing. No, they're not. They're right next to each other. Okay.
    73:49
    Second, if you watch some of these people doing their – and they have the sign language guys or women. Some of their faces these people are doing the sign language with. Like the guy is like – and the death toll is now 17 with 2,400 cases. And the guy is doing the face – the sign language afterwards. you would think like oh my god their facial expressions are not what the guy is saying it's very scary next time watch this and you're going to go wow Bruce is actually right about this trust me you're going to laugh and look at it and you're going to go what the fuck just happened and third the last thing is what the fuck is up with our country where idiots are still partying on the beach They're not going to get sick. No, of course they're not. You fucking dumb nuts. Oh, my God. The funniest thing I saw was just because this is so appropriate. This is a Canadian news station. They were interviewing people, but they had the microphone taped to a hockey stick.
    75:02
    Oh, God. So they could reach out. So they were at least six foot away from the person when they're interviewing them. I like that. That's actually good. That is so Canadian there. That's perfect for a Canadian station to be doing that. That might be one of the funnier things I've seen.
    75:16
    I agree. So I'll see you in a couple days. We'll start doing this a couple days from now. Yeah, sure. Yeah, multiple times a week because, yeah. Okay, good. But again, Pinball Network, Bruce is available. He's ready. Yes, I'm ready. He's ready to go to battle. Ready, able, and willing to show.
    75:39
    I found you a nice doodlebug. Doodlebug? Yeah, $450, a doodlebug. Where? Syracuse. When did you find me this? Is it? Oh, eBay. Oh, okay.
    75:54
    Doodlebug's all right. I like doodlebug. Yeah, doodlebug. $450? It's all about the doodle, baby. But you see, now, I don't think Ronnie's going to be... buying anything either, huh? No, buying a Star Wars or anything anytime soon. No, no, no, no. I totally agree with you.
    76:13
    Let's see. There's a Doodlebug. Sorry, $495. Buy it now. In Syracuse. Doodle, doodle, doodle. Everyone loves my doodle. Oh, okay. Or make our best offer.
    76:29
    For your doodle? Or for the game? My doodle. Both. I'm a pervert yes you are Bruce welcome to my life you don't have any cool would I buy that or anything no that was the only one I saw that was the only one which we didn't give the number for nope because I didn't know if you wanted to buy it not really okay doodlebug 35 299 671 0863 $495 buy it now doodlebug Syracuse New York looking pretty good It's the Bruce recommendation.
    77:05
    It is the Bruce recommendation of the week. Playfield is pretty nice. Backglass, you know, actually pretty nice, too. Usually they peel and chip.
    77:16
    We're somewhere, but for $495, paint's peeling a little bit on someone's side, but you can doodle your night away. Doodle your night away.
    77:25
    All right. Well, that has been Episode 142. Everyone hang in there. You can reach us. Oh, thanks. Thanks. Yeah, I'm going to do it more than you. Yeah, because I keep forgetting. You are the Slam Tilt Podcast. We can be reached at slamtiltpodcast at gmail.com. Check out our website, slamtiltpodcast.com. In the upper right-hand corner, all our links for there, YouTube, Twitch, etc. You will see me streaming, hopefully, soon, the next few days. Actually, maybe by the time this airs, I would have already have streamed. Stripping? No, you get booted from Twitch if you do that. Okay, that's what they all say. You get in trouble. If I took my shirt off, I would get in trouble.
    78:11
    I'm not allowed to show your man boobs. I don't have man boobs. I'm in incredible physical condition, Bruce. No, you're not. I just have my physical. You know how much I weighed?
    78:20
    132. 148. Wow. You're a fat bastard. Almost no gut. What was that? Nothing. Fat bastard. Sorry. Fat bastard.
    78:32
    It's probably the thinnest I've been in a while. Wow. I just cut out crap. I can't do that. It wasn't easy, I have to admit. Especially now, it's going to be worse. What do you mean it's going to be worse? I'm not going to get crap. Because you'll be home now stuck. Yeah. No, it's easier when I'm home. I don't have crappy food in the house ever. I know. You have no food in your house ever. Well, that too, but I do have some food now. All the crap I would eat was at work. A vending machine, candy bars. They bring food in. If you email us at the Slamtail Podcast, I will give you his mailing address, and you can send him stuff to get fat again. No. And don't give people my address. Of course I will. So there you go. So send them stuff and get them all fat again. I don't want to be fat again. The heaviest I ever was was like 190 pounds. Wow. And it doesn't sound like I have a – like you, you're buff. You have a thick frame, you know, thick. You're a big, strong guy. Me, I have a skinny shit frame like my dad. So when I'm 190 pounds, that's way too much weight. So you're saying I'm fat. I'm big boned, you're saying. I'm saying you're big boned. I didn't say you were fat.
    79:45
    I'm not fat. I'm big boned. I'm not fat. Son of a bitch. Hey, you guys. Hey, guys. Hey, you guys. The coronavirus can suck my balls. Suck my balls. Yeah. We are going to make it. Yeah. Yeah, we're going to make it. We're going to make it to the next pinball show.
    80:10
    So did I say everything? Yeah, I think I did. I think you did. Listen to all our other podcasting friends out there in podcast land. You know who they are.
    80:23
    Hi, Zach. Hi, Steve. I'm a bonus. Pinball profile. This isn't Dr. Pin. Et cetera, et cetera. Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Running out of stuff to say. I'm surprised we went this long. There you go. Mm-hmm.
    80:39
    So, everyone, don't be like Ron. Be like Bruce. Stay positive. Yep. And get ready for the Allentown Show in June, because we'll see you there. Goodbye, Bruce.
    80:50
    Goodbye, Jason Gambrell. We'll be right back. Oh my. you got your name I do have my name I'm going to get it right now I had it up until you kept on yapping away like a freaking little school girl I love me sometimes