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Kaneda Pinball Podcasts YouTube Lives·video·13m 10s·analyzed·Apr 5, 2025
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TL;DR

Technical livestream disaster overshadows substantive Spooky vs Stern value comparison and Barrels of Fun concerns.

Summary

Kaneda's livestream was severely hampered by a reversed camera feed that persisted for the first ~31 minutes. Despite technical chaos, he provided candid comparison commentary between Evil Dead (Spooky) and Stern's offerings, praising Spooky's value proposition, artwork, and topper inclusion while criticizing Stern for charging $9,700 for minimal extras and slow delivery timelines. He also expressed concerns about Barrels of Fun's upcoming Dune title potentially suffering from muted color palette and fun factor issues.

Key Claims

  • Evil Dead (Spooky) and a Stern game are priced similarly but Evil Dead offers dramatically more value (topper included, detailed backbox, laser-cut armor) compared to Stern's $9,700 offering

    high confidence · Kaneda directly compared two games 'the same price' with detailed itemization of Evil Dead's included features vs Stern's minimal offerings

  • Stern toppers take 2+ years to arrive by which time machines have depreciated $3,000-$5,000

    medium confidence · Kaneda stated 'when this topper is going to be ready? In two effing years. when nobody cares and your machine's lost three to four thousand to $5,000'

  • Barrels of Fun manufactured 800-1,000 units of their first game in one year, an unprecedented achievement for a new pinball company

    high confidence · Kaneda: 'getting 800 of these, a thousand of these made in one year... we hadn't ever seen a pinball company, a brand new pinball company ever achieve that'

  • Evil Dead flippers are weaker than expected and lack the same snap/responsiveness

    high confidence · Kaneda: 'Flippers were a little weak. I won't lie. That's the one thing. It doesn't have the same snap.'

  • Barrels of Fun's anticipated Dune game will likely feature brown, sand-colored, muted earthy tones making it a 'beige game'

    medium confidence · Kaneda speculation: 'if it is Dune, it's going to be another brown, sand colored, muted, earthy tone game... it's going to be like a beige game'

Notable Quotes

  • “This is the sexiest machine I've seen in a long time... This just embarrasses Avatar, guys. I mean it.”

    Kaneda @ ~7-8 min mark — Strong praise for Evil Dead's overall design and implicit criticism of Avatar's design approach

  • “What do you get for Stern for $9,700? Nothing. Nothing.”

    Kaneda @ ~9 min mark — Harsh critique of Stern's value proposition and pricing strategy

  • “Stern would charge you another $1,000 for that. Another thousand 2,000 for the topper... people are over it. And I just think that Stern's been getting away with it for just way too long.”

    Kaneda @ ~11 min mark — Core argument about unsustainable Stern pricing premium relative to boutique competition

  • “I feel like I got my effing money's worth... That's like the best way to say it.”

    Kaneda @ ~15 min mark — Frames Evil Dead as delivering tangible value satisfaction vs Stern's perceived nickel-and-diming

  • “When these dudes make Beetlejuice, they're going to sell out in one minute. I'm going to buy everyone.”

    Kaneda @ ~28 min mark — Predicts Spooky's Beetlejuice will be instant sell-out hit, implying market preference for Spooky over established competitors

  • “I worry about D and D's long-term replay value... you're going to see a lot of them go up for sale in the next six months.”

    Kaneda @ ~33 min mark — Prediction of secondary market saturation for D&D Pinball suggesting buyer regret

Entities

KanedapersonCarrie HardypersonChristopher FranchipersonEvil DeadgameSpooky PinballcompanyStern PinballcompanyBarrels of Funcompany

Signals

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    business_signal: Kaneda argues Stern's three-tier pricing model with $1,000-$2,000 premiums for features like laser-cut armor and toppers is unsustainable and customers are beginning to defect to boutique competitors offering better value

    high · Direct comparison: 'Stern would charge you another $1,000 for that. Another thousand 2,000 for the topper... people are over it. Stern's been getting away with it for just way too long.'

  • ?

    business_signal: Barrels of Fun achieved 800-1,000 unit production in year one—unprecedented for new entrant—establishing credible manufacturing capability

    high · Kaneda: 'getting 800 of these, a thousand of these made in one year... an incredible accomplishment. We hadn't ever seen a pinball company, a brand new pinball company ever achieve that.'

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Spooky positioned as direct Stern competitor with superior value; Barrels of Fun positioned as similar to Spooky but with risk of design differentiation failure on Dune

    high · Kaneda: 'Barrels of Fun is is going to go up against Spooky in a in a lot of ways' and comparison of Evil Dead's superiority to Avatar/Stern offerings

  • ?

    product_concern: Barrels of Fun's anticipated Dune game faces aesthetic risk: source material's muted desert palette may result in brown/beige 'unfun' game design compared to Spooky's vibrant approach

    medium · Kaneda: 'if it is Dune, it's going to be another brown, sand colored, muted, earthy tone game... beige game. I just don't know. I want more color. I want more fun.'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Spooky Pinball's design approach emphasizes personality, atmosphere, fun, and detail at competitive pricing; Stern relies on brand/licensing power with minimal mechanical innovation

Topics

Manufacturer value proposition and pricing strategy (Stern vs boutiques)primaryEvil Dead (Spooky) game design, features, and market positioningprimaryBarrels of Fun manufacturing capability and upcoming Dune title concernsprimarySecondary market dynamics and anticipated depreciation/liquidationsecondaryGame design philosophy: fun factor, color palette, and replayabilitysecondarySpooky Pinball's competitive positioning vs SternsecondaryStern's topper delivery delays and customer satisfactionsecondaryLivestream technical execution and platform challengesmentioned

Sentiment

mixed(0.65)— Strongly positive toward Spooky Pinball (Evil Dead praised as 'sexiest machine,' excellent value), increasingly negative toward Stern (overpriced, slow delivery, minimal value), cautiously critical of Barrels of Fun (respecting manufacturing achievement but concerned about future design direction). Overall frustration with Stern's market dominance and pricing strategy, optimism about boutique alternatives.

Transcript

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No, I don't want that. Hold on. None. How do we Let's No. Now, Carrie, how do I turn this around? I'm still backwards. I'm still backwards. We just came over to YouTube and we're backwards and I lost my whole audience. Where's Carrie when you need him? I think I have to do this in settings. We're still backwards. I I All that for nothing. All that for see. Carrie, how do we flip it? How do we flip it? I I'm still backwards. This is so annoying. And I didn't see anything in the options. I can turn the camera around here. All right. But then I can't. I don't want to stand on the other side. Where's Carrie Hardy when you need on. No gang. I'm like, how do you flip this? I don't understand. It's still flipped. I know. I know. Carrie, I told Carrie, "How do I flip it here?" Carrie, how do we flip this? Let's figure this out. I know, Carrie. That Facebook messed everything up for everybody. All right. Well, Well, I I know that there's I thought there was something in the YouTube settings that would let you flip it back. To flip, use the two buttons on the side of the machine. That was a good one. That was a good one. All right. Um, yeah, we're back. It's still Todd? I don't know if Todd flips. I don't know. I don't even know what flip we're talking about. I think you have to flip the screen before you start the live. where G your buddy. All right, gang. Here's the deal. Here's the deal. I know this is a rough show. We've only been at it for 31 minutes, but I just want to say Evil Dead, Great Machine, Spooky. I can't wait to make like Beetlejuice Bros. I can't wait to once they make a little bit more of a mainstream theme franch. You effing crushed it, brother. You effing crushed it, man. I'm sorry that I have to show your artwork backwards, but bro, seriously, I said it earlier. I don't know if you were watching, but getting you on board is the smartest move ever. This is the sexiest machine I've seen in a long time. And we were going over the details. This is just like this thing just embarrasses Avatar, guys. I mean it. I mean it. There's so much in it. There's so much in it. And I know the world is flipping backwards right now. And maybe this maybe with the tariffs and the global you disturbed our sleep. Awaken us from our ancient slumber. You are before you. I mean the thing gang is like we will take you. You have to you have to realize gang these two games are like the same price. Stern Stern, you gotta up your game, man. You got They got to up their game. And I I don't know, man. I don't know. Like the same price. Look at the details on the the backbox area. Look at the details. That topper freaking comes with the game. What do you What do you get for Stern for 9700? Nothing. Nothing. And you know when this topper is going to be ready? In two effing years. when nobody cares and your machine's lost three to four thousand to $5,000 gang like as a community like I really I believe it like people are going to rally around the people that are giving you the best bang for the buck they're going to give you like they're going to go all in like legit like look at this side armor on this barren not even not even coated it's not even coated with any paint it's just flat matte black. This is coated. Beautiful, right? And it's got like, you know, it's got it's laser cut to like a chainsaw. Stern would charge you another $1,000 for that. Another thou 2,000 for the topper. It's gang like people are over it. And I I just think that Stern's been getting away with it for just way too long. If anyone knows how to flip the screen, let me know. I know it's backwards. Canad's backwards. Franchie is known for best bangs. Right. Right. Oh, we're going there now, Chris. Are we? Um, it's just like a the package. And I'm sorry it's backwards, guys. You know why I can't flip the screen. It's just it's just at the point now where you're you're just you're I'm at automated pinball services like standing over this machine. I mean you're looking at so much stuff, right? What I love about it is the flow is there but it's packed, you know, like you can go Ed Boon Ed Boon in the orbits. you're the, you know, you can backhand up the left ramp. Flippers were a little weak. I won't lie. That's the one thing. It doesn't have the same snap. But man, I I would take just playing this for an hour, you know, having played Guns and Roses now for the last six to eight months, nothing but Guns and Roses. I I just feel it's refreshing to get on a game. It just feels like this is how pinball should be, right? There should be all these fun modes. The game goes bonkers in different modes. The The knockers are going, the lights are going. It's a very atmospheric game. And I think the coding team over at Spooky is doing a really good job of of sort of making games with a lot of personality, a lot of atmosphere. Uh they pull you in and you just feel like I got my effing money's worth. I mean that that's like the best way to say like I I feel like I got my effing money worth money's worth, you know, and then you like it's just you look over at this stuff and you're like like I would be embarrassed. I would be embarrassed if that's what we're going to do. That's what we're going to do for $7,000. It's just like it's just not enough. It's like, you know, we're just so used to like, you know, people have been yanking everything out of these games and then they still want to charge you six to $13,000. You know, it's just it's just not enough anymore. It's just not enough. Gang, if you're just tuning in, I I don't know how to flip the camera around. We've been saying it now. Okay, so barrels of fun. I I want to talk about barrels. Let's go over Let's go over look and I just before we leave backwards Frenchy beautiful most beautiful game I've seen all year. Um I I just want you to keep this in mind because Barrels is is going to go up against Spooky in a in a lot of ways, right? I mean they're they're kind of similar companies. And I want to give, look, I want to give Barrel's credit for their first game, you know, getting getting 800 of these, a thousand of these made in one year, right? Getting Getting them made in one year is is an incredible accomplishment. And I and I and I hope my friends at Barrels understand that. I do respect what you guys have done. Obviously, this wasn't a theme for me, but to get this done in a year, making a thousand games, you know, you guys like that, like we hadn't ever seen a pinball company, a brand new pinball company ever achieve that. And And so their their criticism of me being too hard on them is valid to that point. What I worry about Barrels's next game is if it is Doomed, it's going to be another brown, sand colored, muted, earthy tone game. Like a bea, it's going to be like a beige game. And I just don't know, man. Like, I just don't know. Like, I want more color. I want more personality. I want a g I want more fun. And I'm just worried that Dune is not going to be fun because it's not a fun movie. It's more of a spectacle. It's more of like a, you know, it's like Avatar. You go see it and it's like, it's really more about like seeing an IMAX with the orchestration, but it's not like this. This goes with Canada's glasses. Like everything about this is just fun. When these dudes make Beetlejuice, they're going to sell out in one minute. I'm going to buy everyone. So, that's my point, gang. It's like I I think right now everybody is really just like, "Oh man, you you either got to crush it with something." And by the way, this is going to be one D and D is a fun game to shoot. Don't get me wrong. Um and and like look, D and D's got some cool stuff in it, right? It really does. I just think the art package in this is such a miss. And I think, you know, the more people realize like a saved game kind of game where, you know, once you get through it all, you're going to see it all and you're not going to want to go through it over and over and over again. I worry about DND's long-term replay value. And I think you're going to see just a lot of people who bought DNDs for full price. Uh I think you're going to see a lot of them go up for sale in the next six months. that I think Kong is also going to, you know, ignite a lot of people trying to bail out on older games they don't really want. Hey, why is it Oh my god. Don't ask why the screen is flipped. I We can't figure it out. Carrie, how do you how do you Carrie, do you use your phone or see I use my computer and so does Carrie probably. Like I use a computer at home and it flips it for me. So I'm not even sure why it wouldn't do that on selfie mode. Uh, so yeah, dude, read the comments. What comments, Dwayne? I'm going to read all the comments now. What? Let's everything. I'll read I'm going to read comments from now on, guys. Phone settings. Camera. Click off mirror. Front camera. iPhone settings. Oh, let me try that. All right. Hold on. iPhone settings. Camera. Click off. Mirror front camera. Okay. Hold on a know. Well, no. I I did it, but I don't I I think I might have to restart this now. Should we try it again? Hold on. Hold on. Start at the stream. Um, all right. Here's the deal. I'm going to I'm going to come right back. We're going to try this for a third time. Hopefully, it's flipped right. If it's not, we're just going to go there. Okay. So, everybody, I know there's 107 people here. Come right back. And I'm gonna just I know I know. Believe me, Robert. I know this is annoying. The Trump tariffs have infiltrated the screen. I'm going to come back. Come right back here and I'll be here. Okay. I know this is annoying, but we're gonna
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medium · Kaneda: 'Spooky is doing a really good job of making games with a lot of personality, a lot of atmosphere... I got my effing money's worth' vs Stern criticism

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    market_signal: Recent Stern releases (King Kong, D&D) anticipated to trigger secondary market flooding as players trade up or bail out, signaling buyer dissatisfaction with newer releases

    medium · Kaneda: 'you're going to see a lot of them go up for sale in the next six months' and 'King Kong is also going to ignite a lot of people trying to bail out on older games'

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    product_strategy: Stern's topper delivery delayed 2+ years, during which machines depreciate $3,000-$5,000, eroding buyer value proposition

    medium · Kaneda: 'when this topper is going to be ready? In two effing years. when nobody cares and your machine's lost three to four thousand to $5,000'

  • ?

    product_concern: Evil Dead flipper responsiveness is weaker than expected, lacking the snap Kaneda associates with quality machines

    high · Kaneda hands-on assessment: 'Flippers were a little weak. I won't lie. That's the one thing. It doesn't have the same snap.'

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Market preference shifting away from Stern toward boutique manufacturers (Spooky) based on perceived value, detail, and faster feature delivery

    high · Kaneda's consistent framing that Evil Dead 'embarrasses Avatar,' includes topper at same price point, and represents 'how pinball should be' vs Stern's minimal offerings