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INDISC 2024 - Classics Target Match Play Playoffs - Finals

IE Pinball·video·1h 18m·held·Jun 24, 2025
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TL;DR

INDISC 2024 Classics Match Play finals features elite international competitors on vintage pinball machines.

Summary

IE Pinball streams the finals of the Classics Target Match Play tournament at INDISC 2024, featuring four elite competitors: Arvid Flygar (Sweden), Eden Stam (Canada), Josh Sharpe (USA, Josh Sharpe), and Jonathan Puckran (Canada). The broadcast covers two games played on classic pinball machines (Viking and Bow and Arrow), with detailed rules commentary and gameplay analysis from the broadcast team. Arvid dominates Game 2 (Bow and Arrow) with 170,000 points after three balls, while competitive positioning and strategy are heavily discussed throughout.

Key Claims

  • Josh Sharpe is the president of the IFPA (International Flipper Pinball Association)

    high confidence · Andre Masikov explicitly states this during the broadcast introduction

  • Eden Stam set a world record for continuous pinball playing time that has since been surpassed by two other players

    medium confidence · Andre mentions Eden's record during player introductions but notes it has been 'trumped' by two others

  • Viking at INDISC has been set to tournament-quality difficulty with dead rubbers in the outlanes, preventing normal saves

    high confidence · Broadcasters explicitly describe the machine as set at 'world champion quality level' with intentionally difficult ruleset by tournament directors

  • The tournament uses a 4-2-1-0 points scoring system across three games total

    high confidence · Colin MacAlpine explicitly states the scoring system during game commentary

  • This is a 24-player field that qualified through target match format to reach the Final Four

    high confidence · Andre describes the qualifying process where players needed 25 points to enter a 24-person field

Notable Quotes

  • “Even pinball Jesus needs glasses.”

    Colin MacAlpine@ 5:09 — Humorous aside during Eden Stam's play, referencing his nickname and a moment where he appeared to miss something on the playfield

  • “The devious evil tournament directors here at Indisk have made this world champion quality level Viking that you don't generally get that.”

    Colin MacAlpine@ 4:49 — Explains the intentional difficulty setup of the machine, with dead rubbers and tight outlanes designed to challenge top players

  • “Position can be so powerful on some of these older games that involve bonus such as Viking.”

    [name withheld pending review]@ 14:59 — Highlights a key strategic element in classic pinball—player order position confers significant advantage due to game mechanics

  • “He has definitely answered my question about how tight this tilt is. We have yet to find that tilt.”

    Colin MacAlpine@ 5:59 — Comments on Eden's exceptional ability to save balls through aggressive nudging without triggering the tilt mechanism

  • “I have a feeling you're going to have to write the number two before the seven at some point on your teleustrator there, Colin.”

    [name withheld pending review]@ 25:47 — Prediction that Arvid's score will exceed 200,000 points, referencing the scoring board display

Entities

[name withheld pending review]personZack McCarthypersonColin MacAlpinepersonArvid FlygarpersonEden StampersonJosh Sharpeperson[name withheld pending review]personINDISC 2024eventIFPAorganization

Signals

  • ?

    competitive_signal: INDISC 2024 Classics Target Match Play uses target match qualifying format (players accumulate 25 points minimum to fill 24-person field) into Final Four match play with 4-2-1-0 scoring across three games, with first-place finisher choosing machine or player position for subsequent games

    high · Multiple explicit descriptions of tournament structure by Andre and Colin; target match format explained as yesterday's qualifying mechanism

  • ?

    event_signal: INDISC 2024 is a significant multi-event pinball tournament with five main streamed events; Classics Target Match Play is first finals being broadcast, with world championship match deciding on Sunday

    high · Andre states: 'this is one of five of the main events here at uh the Open' and 'The world champion, the open world champion uh ship will be decided on Sunday'

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Arvid Flygar demonstrates dominant gameplay on Bow and Arrow (Game 2) with 170,000 points after ball 3 of 5, significantly outpacing competitors; displays exceptional flipper control, tap pass technique, and drop catch execution

    high · Game 2 ball 3 score of 170,000 confirmed on broadcast; commentators note Arvid 'lapped his opponent already' and predict he will exceed 200k; recovery from zero points in Game 1 (mechanical failure via one-way gate malfunction)

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Classic machines at INDISC have been intentionally configured to tournament championship difficulty: Viking features dead outlane rubbers (preventing normal saves), sensitive tilt, and pop bumper randomization; Bow and Arrow has bouncy rubber and challenging drop catch angles

    high · Broadcasters explicitly describe 'devious evil tournament directors' setting Viking to 'world champion quality level'; multiple mentions of outlane rubber being 'dead' and tilt being initially undetectable until late in play

Transcript

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0:07
Hello everybody. Welcome to the finals of Classics Match Play here at Indisk 2024. I'm Andre Masikov, 2014 World Champion. And here we have uh Zack McCarthy, 2022 FIFA World Champion. And I'm Colin McCalpine, and I'm the 2017 Pinberg Champion. So, we got a a desk full of uh major winners. And it's exciting here. We've got a huge tournament, not a major, but definitely the beginning of a heck of a lot of awesome playoffs coming up here. But this is the Classics Match Play Finals, the Final Four players. Couple older ones, couple younger ones going at it on some older machines. Yeah, this is one of five of the main events here at uh the Open. Um this is the first of the five that that are being streamed right now and qualifying for the others are are currently taking place. Yeah. And thanks for those of you joining us. So, this is a major pinball event. This tournament is not a pinball major, so to speak. The world champion, the open world champion uh ship will be decided on Sunday. But we're excited to bring you this finals, the final four of the classic target match play. So, all these players uh ground away for most of the day yesterday trying to get a target match score until they had 25 points. and then everybody that got in uh before it filled up the field of 24 and we're now down to the final four and we're excited to bring that to you. We have an international uh flavor of this uh final four. So we have a one a Swedish uh young man, we have a a guy from Canada and I believe the other two are Oh, we have two Canadians actually, right? Cuz Eden's from Canada as well. Looks like it. Yeah. So two Canadians and Josh Sharp uh is from the United States. Uh you probably know uh a lot of these a lot of these folks. Uh you may know Josh Sharp. He happens to be the president of the IFBA, which is the sanctioning body of international uh pinball competition. And Arvid is a young man from Sweden who's just been on fire. He's been like on a three-year heater. And uh Eden is a pinball Jesus. And uh he's you'll see what I mean here when he gets into the uh gets into but he's he's actually know he he set the world record has now been trumped or uh you know taken over by two other people for longest amount of continuous playing time of pinball. Um and then and Jonathan is an excellent player from the Alberta area.
2:34
Classics Target Match Play
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Vikinggame
Bow and Arrowgame
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It Never Drainsvenue
  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Broadcast extensively documents advanced flipper techniques on classic machines: tap passes (light flipper touches to redirect ball), drop catches (flipper deadening), on-the-fly tap passes during bounce, backhand/forehand spinner shots, and preemptive nudging for ball saves

    high · Detailed technical commentary throughout both games defining and analyzing tap passes, drop catches, ski jump passes, and explaining how Arvid executes these techniques successfully

  • ?

    competitive_signal: First-place finisher in qualifying game gains strategic advantage by choosing either machine selection or player position for subsequent games; position carries significant advantage in bonus-heavy classic games

    high · Andre explains: 'the player who is the who finished best in the qualifying gets a choice of choosing a pin or choosing their player position. Position can be so powerful on some of these older games'

  • ?

    product_concern: Classic pinball machine mechanical failures observed during tournament: one-way gate malfunction on Viking allowing unexpected ball escape (Arvid's ball 3 Game 1); stuck ball incident on Bow and Arrow requiring tournament director intervention

    high · Andre describes gate malfunction: 'usually it's supposed to be one way...but unfortunately sometimes you can rattle it and just it's it's a little slanted inward and the ball can sometimes sneak through there'; Jonathan's stuck ball required director resolution

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Game 1 (Viking) shows tight scoring with leader Eden Stam finishing with strong score but manageable cushion; Game 2 (Bow and Arrow) low opening ball scores (11k-15k-9k-3k) indicate defensive/learning-oriented early strategy before dominant scoring appears mid-game

    high · Game 1 final scores show Eden ahead; Game 2 ball 1 scores documented as very low; Arvid's progression from 0 in Game 1 to 170k after 3 balls demonstrates recovery and adaptation

  • ?

    competitive_signal: INDISC 2024 Classics Finals features international representation: two Canadian players (Eden Stam, Jonathan Puckran), one Swedish player (Arvid Flygar), one American player (Josh Sharpe); broadcast emphasizes 'international flavor' of final four

    high · Andre explicitly identifies player nationalities and notes 'we have an international uh flavor of this uh final four'

    • And here we go on Viking. Um there are a couple ways to attack this game. One way is through that center spinner that can be built up to 1,000 points of spin. The other way is bonus bonus multiplier and collecting bonus that spinner coming that direction is a way to lose the ball as well. That was so rough. I see that a decent amount of times on these Vikings also sometimes shooting out of that center hole at the very top straight down the middle. Yeah, sometimes it's nice to plunge into those A or B lanes just cuz the direct feed down the middle isn't quite as obvious. Yeah. So the A and B lanes are right here and right here. I prefer the B lane depending on how this happens. But if it kicks down here and will miss this deadly pop bumper and go all the way down to your flipper and you can catch it here, that's actually a really good uh opening plunge.
    3:23
    So, we were waiting now for player two to step up, which will be Jonathan Puckran, and we'll see how he approaches this game. Uh, as you know, we saw the spinner that generally you want to be shooting that spinner from the Clippers and not having it come down backwards through the spinner straight down the middle. We'll see if Jonathan elects to go for some of these inline drop targets that advance your bonus X and bonus, which can be very valuable. And how about that one target that lights up periodically just to the left of those targets? Nah, nobody's going to go for that. We'll see. Well, there's also on the inlines on the left, uh, eventually that target at the back is worth 50,000 as well. So once you get up to your 5x, just bashing that target as many times as you can is also a little bit. Correct. All right. So Jonathan has got the 2x going. He's a nice trap. You can insta cradle on the lefth hand side. That's really nice. Gives him a nice controlled shot. Goes all the way around for his collect bonus and that does not reset his bonus. Uh so he uh is can continue collecting that all he wants the entire ball, but he has to re-qualify it by shooting that right orbit again. And there it is. But it won't get all the way around. Let's see. Let's see if he just takes it. Left flipper. Yeah, left flipper. It looks like he's going for collect bonus. And right flipper, he's going inlines on this particular Viking. So these rubbers right here on these outlanes on most Vikings will be very friendly to you and allow you to get the ball back into your in lanes. But uh the the devious evil tournament directors here at Indisk have made this world champion quality level Viking that you don't generally get that. Yeah, those rub that rubber just seems dead. Just nothing off of that. And I'm also wondering if you guys have played this Viking and if you know how tight the tilt may be, how much shoving players can get away with here. I haven't. Okay. Even even pinball Jesus needs glasses. So, here he comes. Eden Stam, former Canadian national champion as well.
    5:23
    All right. He just wants ball and flipper and he gets it. Looks like he's going spinner. Now, by making the spinner, you're advancing uh your bonus, and eventually it's worth a thousand to spin. So, and I believe there is hold bonus on this one. Is that correct? Oh, that was gorgeous. That was lovely. He was moving that thing from the time it got to the opening of the out lane and just bounced it back in with brute force. This tilt is nice and liberal. We're going to see some quality nudges here. Another one. Wow. Yeah, he has definitely answered my question about how tight this tilt is. We have yet to find that tilt.
    6:05
    And so for those of you new to pinball, there is a mechanism in the actual cabinet of the pinball machine that is a pendulum with a ring around it. And if you get that pendulum swinging too far, makes contact with the ring, you tilt, and your flippers die and your ball is over. You get no bonus. It is possible that pendulum somehow is not in this game the way Eaton's getting away with what he is. But that's an excellent way to set up a game for a game such as this one. on Viking because of those out lanes. I mean, he's had four balls that would normally have gone out on a normal game and he brought them back into play. So, Eden also has the 20,000 now locked in, I believe. So, he will have that for the rest of the game. Yeah. So, depending on the settings, that is a super bonus that will carry and will carry for his future balls. Now, the bonus X will not carry that he earned by hitting once again these inline drop targets here on the left. Advance your bonus X two, three, four, and 5X. The bonus X does not carry, but the super bonus of 20 and 40 does carry between balls. Now Josh Sharp here, runner up at multiple world championships, although he's playing much younger players in Arvid and Jonathan as a younger player, he was a star player, winning some junior titles. Yeah, that 10 shirt is older than Arvin.
    7:30
    Oh, Josh doesn't get it. So, he tried the exact same move, but you noticed it was a different it was a different velocity. It wasn't coming down as fast, and I think it was it wasn't quite hugging. Yeah, it seemed to come off a little bit. It was coming off the wall, so he got this action and down the middle.
    7:50
    All right, Arvid is an inline drop guy. There's the pop bumpers doing their job. randomizing it. Oh, and flushing it down the left out lane. Yeah. And you see on his ball, you know, when he hit the inline targets, it it ran into that pop bumper. Um what what a lot of times you can do is you can give it a big slap on the side to avoid that pop bumper, but not on this. It didn't seem like he was able to do that. He wasn't maybe just what it's a fast return, but yeah, that's that is the play. I've seen you do that very very successfully on this exact copy of Viking at at pass classic Zmac that uh yeah you can you can slap it or it is it's here so you missed this pop bumper and I'm sorry we just totally missed Jonathan's uh second ball but uh that eliminates that randomization so you don't get any of this side to side action coming off of the pop bumper organizers here really like to set up the games so there are multiple pathways to get points and uh so nothing, no particular shot or move can be exploited. And that pop bumper on the left is is one of those blockers that slows down that progression of getting those multipliers through those left red drop targets. All right, Eden in play. Gets the a top lane. Nothing outside of that saucer yet. Just wants the ball on the flipper and he gets it. Inline drops. He does have that carryover bonus. So, he is multiplying a decent size bonus from the start of his ball cuz he carried over from his last ball. Correct. It was a short ball, but he made some good progress with this bonus there. Exactly. Look at that bonus tick trickle up. Just lovely sound and visual to hear as you step away from your ball and you get to see that bonus count up. And that's the power of going for the spinner at the beginning of your game is you can get through that bonus advance real quick and get that 20k locked in. Ball one. Yeah, we haven't seen anybody take a really good shot at it yet as far as you get the the center spinner is what we're talking about right here. And as you spin it that the the tree keeps building until you get to a thousand of spin and you get bonus.
    10:02
    There we go. And it turns nicely once it gets into the thousand range. Josh could catch up quite quickly if he keeps hitting that shot well. And it's going to time out, but he gets it before it times out. So continues at,000. Look at his score go. He's up to 45k. Oh, and he could have moved that more. Yeah, I think he could have saved that. That was that was a beautiful save for a very tight game, but this game you can throw around. Yeah. Well, and maybe maybe the sideways could be a little more sensitive than the upward nudging, but still. I mean, I he didn't have that much bonus to build. I would have I would have gone for it. Yeah. All right, Arvet. Ball three. This is a three ball game, so we're in ball three. And I'm presuming he picked this game cuz he is player one. I I think Josh was top seed. I'm not I'm not 100% sure on that. And Josh may have deferred and chosen to go fourth. Oh no. Oh no. Now that should not normally happen, but once in a while a gate like that will go the wrong way. Usually it's supposed to be one way and should keep the ball in play, but that was very unfortunate there for Arvin. Yeah, the design there is to only come up that oneway gate, but unfortunately sometimes you can rattle it and just it's it's a little slanted inward and the ball can sometimes sneak through there. That's a pity. So Arvid will finish finish last on this first game. Um he's not out of it, but it's not not the start he was looking for. Yeah, and the scores are on the back glass of the machine. Oh, nice nudge. Oh, that actually tilted. Okay, we found the tilt bob, Andre. Now that guarantees Josh Sharp second place because that tilt left Jonathan below Josh's 54. So Josh will have one thing to focus on when he plays. Whatever Eden's score is when he finishes this ball. It'll be a long hard road, but at least he only has one score to target. So he can actually try to go for something a little more bold, a little more extreme, a little more dangerous just knowing he's going to need at least a quarter of a million points to catch Eden. Correct. And Eden's just going to build that cushioning. Yeah. So once again, he still has that 20k bonus progress that he gets for free. And so every single drop target is worth another 20,000.
    12:21
    And that collect bonus hole when it's lit could help him really run away with this game. Yeah, that's true. after a few multip I think he could have stayed that one too. It was it was just on the tip. I think he could have gotten a little hold of it. But he's guaranteed no worse than second and he's got a very sizable cushion for what you know amounts to a rough playing Viking. We Eden had that magic ball just where it seemed like he could do no wrong and he could get the ball back on the outlanes at least I think three times that ball. Yeah, maybe four and nobody else has been nearly as successful. All right, El Presidentedente plunging. Gives it a power assist plunge. No progress carryover. So, just all this ball. Oh, he had it on the flipper he wanted. Let's see what he tries to do. Transfer it or spinner. No spinner.
    13:14
    Yes. Little dribble off that. Yeah, the ball just saved itself.
    13:24
    Okay, he has 17. I can't tell if that 10 lights out. Okay, only seven.
    13:38
    Uh-oh. You don't want to be in the slings. Okay, there we go. There we go. Spinner has lost his thousand value, so he has to build it back up to a th00and. still building bonus, but he's already gotten pretty good value just from those thousand spins, you know, about 50k. Doubled his score. Yeah, I wonder if he switches the inlines. No, he's still he's just going to kick him on spinner and saves it and does not tilt. Yeah, just nice quick jolt from Josh there. Did not penalize him. Oh, no. Too slow. And he could have even tilted out there with no penalty in terms of the match because he was already in second place position. So Eden Stam, we are playing a 4210 scoring system. So first place gets four, second place gets two, third one, and last place gets a zero. We're playing three total games, and the winner based on those points will carry away that gorgeous, you know, trophy that's just off the screen there. Andre is going to bring it in. Oh, this feels good. Very nice. Look at that. Indis first place classic target match play. And I don't know what the game two is and we don't even know because the way that this format works, the player who is the who finished best in the qualifying gets a choice of choosing a pin or choosing their player position. Position can be so powerful on some of these older games that involve bonus such as Viking. Correct. And where you do know what your opponents have, even though your opponent usually playing first who picked the machine did pick the machine and is playing exactly the game they wish to. This is a bonus game with a couple opportunities to collect bonus in it. Uh not only when you lose the ball, but if you could see that top left lane, there's a saucer. It says collect bonus. You could collect up to 10,000 per bonus. You like the bonus through hitting the spinners in particular, both left and right spinners, as well as the lanes, the inlanes that come down to the flippers. Some players might actually shoot the ball into the in lanes if it's possible, just to build their bonus safely. There's also a little known super jackpot bonus advance in this game, and it's right here. If you can get that between the D and that advanced bonus, you can get maybe five to 10 advanced bonuses in one pop bumper trip. Oh, so it it will it'll keep collecting them. It's fast enough to register that. Yeah.
    16:07
    Okay. So, Arvid was once again going as player one and Jonathan is once again player two. Edom is player three. Josh is player four. Presumably, Arvy Arvid has picked this game. That's only 1,000. So, we can see it starts out at 1,00 and he hasn't advanced it yet through any significant spinner rips. Another thing to watch Oh, sorry. Or hitting the the targets or the lanes.
    16:31
    Now, does it It didn't really look like he was interested in the spinner. He was more interested in trying to send it up into the popup. It did. That's an interesting strat. Not Andre, what were you going to say? Uh, one thing to watch as the players hit the collect bonus saucer is how the ball rolls out and how they handle that kick out. If they can settle the ball down and keep it on that right flipper, they can fire it back in there. It's a relatively easy shot to hit, but a difficult one oftentimes to recover from after you've collected your bonus. Yeah. So, we'll see a really cool uh you know, flipper skillful play here, I think, once these players, you know, it's a fiveball game, by the way, not a three-ball game. And so, we're going to have lots of opportunity for players to learn how that feed is working. And this is that is the feed on any of these classic games. There's generally one maybe two feeds that you want to learn. And this is and this is also another one depending upon the tilt setting that as Zach was describing earlier. You can side slap it from the right hand side on the left hand side on the cabinet to get it to come off this rail. If it's going straight down the middle, you can have it come off and get it over to your right flipper instead. Now, during Arvid's ball, it looked to be pretty cleanly going to that right flipper for a potential drop catch. Uh, we'll see if that continues or if any of these players capitalize on that. Another viable possibility is trying to fire it back on the fly back into that collect bonus saucer over and over again. We'll see if anyone tries it, how easy it is.
    18:03
    That was a tough looking top saucer. Does not want to take the ball into that very top one.
    18:11
    Nice. Goes back up. Just takes some points. Oh, that is a great feed. Oh, unfortunate right out lane there. But we could see what uh we were talking about there, the feed coming off of this collect bonus. Went nicely over to that right flipper. So, dealer's choice. You could take the on the-fly shot and send it back up immediately or do what Jonathan was doing, which is a drop catch. And that's where you raise the flipper up and you let go of the flipper right as the ball gets there to try to essentially deaden the ball and give you an another shot from that same flipper. Jonathan was just a little bit early on that drop catch there. Yeah, I saw his drop catches bounce some. Also, this might be bouncy rubber that's harder to drop catch off of. We'll definitely see some other players go for that drop catch out of the collect bonus. Okay, Eden was not shooting at this. He he was shooting at one of the two spinners and I seriously doubt he was shooting that target. Generally speaking, if you're new to pinball or if you're not new to pinball, any of these targets that sit there right in the middle are a big no no. Absolute no no. Do not shoot those. Those kill you. But they look so great. There's so many points. They open the gate. 5,000 points. It might cost you your ball though if you go that way. It's never worth it. And players are trying to plunge into that saucer, I would think, up top. And even those who have experience on this game, timing it so it lands on the 5,000. Oh no. And terrible luck. No flips there. All right. So we have a very lowcoring ball one, but we have four balls remaining for each of these players. 11,000 to 15 to 9 to three. Absolutely anyone's game. Four more balls to go.
    19:59
    So Arvid wants to control there. Got away with a pretty good slap. Nice power in lane. Collects 2,00. Nice drop catch once again. A little bit off in the timing, but he'll he'll learn that. Let's see if he goes spinner. No, he's just going to collect 2,000 all day. Nice control. Excellent skill. Yeah, if he can keep doing that safely, although it's 2,000, he'll do it all day. Yeah, some beautiful drop catches here. He's got the timing down. Yeah. Rush that one just a little bit.
    20:33
    Okay, now the spinner's coming into play. So, you can see that each of these have the identical little pathway of lights. And after you get past that top light, then you advance bonus once. Nearly nearly got a Lazarus. Yeah. And not much he could have done from that angle unless he preemptively had a feeling it would bounce off that wall on the left um to keep it from going down the middle. You will see players preemptively save balls and it's not obvious, but they will do things if they know there's a trouble spot that the ball comes from. They'll slap the machine. So Jonathan just did what you were talking about Andre. That is a great move.
    21:15
    Oh no, it's center stand up two players zero. Just taunting them. You don't they're they're not shooting for there. I mean, there are some games where center standups are actually really valuable. This is not one of them.
    21:31
    And by the way, in most competition settings, extra balls are turned off. And I'm guessing this is the same. And that is not an extra ball for Eden. That is a nothing ball. That's one of those drains where just it looks so clean and then just like a little bit of ball spin, a little bit of wiggle and it just pops right out right into that left outer. And you can see here on the side these the sides of these outlanes are just bare wood and so any ball that goes over there gets deadened and the the ball just you know it's very difficult to get out unless you preemptively nudge it off that metal post first. Josh nails the skill shot. Three points. Will he get to flip?
    22:18
    swing and hits. You will see some players backhand versus forehand the spinners. So, that's interesting. Josh is the first player we've seen who's chosen to hit a spinner over hitting the bonus collection. Yeah. And unfortunately, now he does get to collect that bonus when you drain. So, anytime you drain, it is going to collect your bonus for you. but he did not, you know, have any time to actually go and get that mid collect collect bonus mid ball. And the reason why it's so powerful is in this classic game, the bonus is not reset. Many games the bonus resets when you collect, but not bow and arrow.
    22:51
    Harvey cradles up and he goes forehand to the right spinner. Gets some good progress. He's up to 3,000 nearly 4,000 in bonus with one more spin. Some fantastic uh upward nudges off those slings just to keep it from out those corner areas. And some good decisions not to flip at times like that one to let the ball go over to the other side softly. Okay, let's see if he tries another tap pass. Oh, he just shook his head. No, he just shook his head no. Let's see if he tap passes again. So, a tap pass is when you just gently twitch the shhats instead. So a shots is when you're flipping the flipper to try to go into the opposite in lane. Whereas a tap pass is when you just barely hit the flipper button so that the the ball just like magically pops over to the other side. There there's one right there. Little on thely tap pass. Arvin's a big fan of tap passes, but you know the shots I think it's just it's a safer way to go. Nice.
    23:51
    Nice. Good. Good patience here from Marvin. Good flipper skills. And he's drop catching very well. He's not getting the ball to stop dead, but this is a very tough set of flipper rubbers and angle to do it easily. He's doing not rolling tap passes, but he's doing on the fly tap passes as the ball bounces and makes contact with the flipper. The shatings actually looks like a vi viable strat. That's advanced bonus every shots. Oh, that's interesting. Nearly maximum bonus. So, I'm going to guess he all he's going to shoot for now is collect bonus. Yep. Here we go. Let's see. So, he started out at this mount about 60k is what he started out when he started this little funfest here. Double bonus. Now, you get it from the ABCD targets. I don't think players go for them intentionally heavily. But in his case, he will have double bonus from those green targets he extinguished as well. The double bonus only applies for the the bonus you collect when you drain. Is that correct? That is correct. But he's got another 20k coming to him which is higher. I mean I love I love two of his other opponents total scores and that'll be at the end of the ball for losing it. I love the pinball gods are rewarding this excellent flipper skill play because he's getting some awesome power in lanes as well. Right on Q. There was a tap pass. Rolling tap pass. So now we can see Arvid is over 100,000. You can see the 100,000 light right there. So he has 139,000. He's lapped his opponent already.
    25:26
    There's that tap. I don't that that on that bounce on the bounce tap pass is not really doing that great of a job. It's out of control. It's a little too strong. Yeah. But lovely, lovely, incredible ball to ball three there from Arvid. 170,000 after three balls. I have a feeling you're going to have to write the number two before the seven at some point on your teleustrator there, Colin. I agree. Coming off of a zero game one, that's that's the ball you want to have next game. Okay, now this Jonathan is faced with a dilemma here. He he could nudge this. He could also call for a tournament director to unstick this ball and it's going to go on his right flipper. I would absolutely call for a tournament director and take this on my right flipper. I I agree. And I don't think that ball's coming out. Like it's it's stuck on the metal. There's no rubber to bounce it off of. Yeah. So Jonathan did a very, you know, very uh sportsmanlike thing of trying his best to nudge that out with some judicious, very light cabinet slaps. But now what happens here is you will the tournament director will open up the pinball machine. They will slide the glass off and the the ball will go either on the flipper or the shooter lane. Because this came off the plunge, the tournament director may choose to put it back in the shooter lane. I don't know. That's their going to be their call. You see Germaine, you know, scratching his chin, wondering what to do with that ball.
    26:54
    It did go into play and did strike some things. That's the thing to me. It did. So, I think on the flipper would be would be appropriate. [Music] Survey says right flipper. I mean that's I think that's the best outcome. Absolutely. We've seen at least two if three not three house balls so far of the you know eight that have been played or 10 that have been played. So he's got some choices to backhand or forehand the spinner from this perfectly cradled ball. Yep. And for those new to pinball, when we say backhand, we talk about shooting the ball very early from a flip. So it's going on the same side as opposed to a more natural forehand shot that goes towards the opposite side like you would normally think like when you swing a baseball bat if you're going to the the you know the the opposite field is more like a backhand and you know the the vice versa survives the center the center stand up.
    27:57
    Okay so I take everything back. Arvid would have done an onfly tap pass there and it wouldn't have done that, you know, side to side action going over left out lane. It would have maybe just blooped over here and he may have gotten control. So, good job, Arvid. Yeah, and in Arvid's case, it never punished him to the point where he lost the ball on account of the tap passes. You got to be creative on these games as far as keeping the ball alive, but also getting the ball to the flipper. You want gaining control. Good nudging. And there was a ski jump pass from left to right just by holding the flipper up. The spinner kind of stopped itself there. It didn't continue spinning. Unfortunately, that is the tough thing with the backhand is you're kind of sending it directly up into that pop and it's going to send it right back down and can go back into the spinner. Plus, I feel like that right spinner doesn't turn terribly quickly. I don't have a good feel about the left spinner. Oh no. And okay, that that was a welldeserved rain for Eden. He unfortunately it was once again it all started with the rebound off of that that center stand up and then out of control and over to the right out lane.
    29:09
    So Andre and Zach, so how much bonus do you want to build up before you start going for the collect bonus all day with that feed? I I don't know if I really want to build it up all that much. It seems like like pretty decent drop catch, send it back up. So maybe 3k. Well, I guess it depends on if you're chasing arbit or not. If you're just trying to get second here, you know, like get it up to two or 3k and then just hit that saucer as many times as you can. Yeah. Yeah. It's very situational. I agree with you. I feel like Yeah, I wouldn't mind drop catching out of that saucer. Doesn't feed into any dangerous spot, but you do need to drop catch it nicely. Oh, that was a gorgeous spinner rip. The best we've seen today. No, he played with his food. No, Josh. No, man. And he he chose not to make a move. I feel like giving it like a slap with the right flipper, like maybe he could have nudged it over to the left. Yeah. And still not risk the drain. I mean, if he wanted to for sure save it, it probably would have risked the tilt. Sorry, not the drain, but risk the tilt. But with given the low scoring, you know, he's not although at two points, yeah, he's he's really he's he's playing the the strategy here. He's with only 20,000 for the other two players. He wanted that 7,000 a bonus. And we'll see what Arvin does with this huge lead right now. What approach? Not much apparently, but he's still in a very comfortable position. Yeah, absolutely. He's he's feeling fine. We're on ball four of five and we're in a match of game two of three in the finals of the classic target match play tournament at the It Never Drains in Southern California Inbisk Festival. [Music]
    30:55
    All right, Jonathan, the hooded the hooded pinball player here. 4,000. Can he do the drop catch? Not quite.
    31:07
    Great nudge. Extraordinary off that wooden law. Yeah, he anticipated that it was going to bounce normally over into that out lane, so he gave it extra nudge to send it with extra force and bounce further off the wood back into the in lane. Never got a chance to collect the bonus from the saucer with the near max bonus. That could have been his opportunity to catch Arvid. And in Jonathan's case, with only one point so far, he needs to be going for Arvid. In the case of Josh and Eden, they need to make a decision right now whether they need to be aggressively going for Arvid score or sniping for each other because they already have a decent number of points in hand. Eden especially. Yeah. And this is the final. So this is not the normal system where two people go through the next round. This is the final four. The top player will take first and second and third and fourth and so on. Eden just dancing with the devil on that center stand up and he's talking to himself right now.
    32:08
    Nice spinner rip on the left. Yeah, I I agree with these people's uh choice of going with that left spinner. It seems to have spin so much better than that right one. It did. We've seen that with both Eden and Josh's last spinner rip. Unfortunately, similar to what Andre pointed out with Josh's good spinner rip, he didn't really have much chance after that.
    32:30
    Okay, player four. Ball four. We have one more ball to go for each player. Josh has two. This one and his next. That ball just died on that upper little passive sling. Nice tip. Beautiful tip.
    32:45
    Backhand's going to get him close to 4,000. Gets the fortuitous bounce to the in lane. Come on, Slings. Don't kill him yet. Oh, the center st. He airled off the center stand up. You could hear hit the glass and back down.
    33:02
    It seems like 4K is enough for Josh to go ahead and hit that saucer as many times as he can. Yeah. Yes, I agree. At this point in the game, absolutely. Nice, dude. Just hold it. Oh, the new meta is discovered. Let's see if it works consistently. [Laughter] Andre is disappointed.
    33:24
    Definitely he might want to get over to the right flipper now and just keep collecting bonuses. He doesn't need to build his bonus. Yeah. So he he shots past there, but it was not a very good one because it put it out of control. Oh, and almost a Lazarus. He will collect his bonus on the way out. Sitting in second place right now as player four. Once again, as Andre pointed out, being in the player four position is extremely powerful because you know exactly what you need to eclipse other player scores.
    33:53
    If things ended as they are right now score-wise, we'll have a very, very tight match going in the final game. Indeed. Yeah. With Arvid pulling away here, you know, looking at a a bit of a reset going into game three.
    34:13
    Yeah, we could even have the 4442, which would make anybody's game on game three. And when we talk about that, we're talking about the match points. You can see the match points down here. You get four points for first, two points for second, one point for third, and zero points for fourth. I really appreciate the way people are drop catching here. It's not an easy drop catch. You need to do more than drop. Your timing has to be great. And then you make an adjustment on the variable kinds of results you get when you drop catch because it does come in at different speeds and angles slightly. And Arvis has been nailing it. Yeah. But even with him, he's the last two were not were not clean. It's It's so tough that that velocity of the ball coming back makes it difficult and the bounciness of the flipper rubbers,
    34:57
    but this is how you do it. He has justcliped 200,000. This is beyond the scoring capabilities of the game. Well, thank you for fixing that there.
    35:12
    Yeah. And Arvid just wants to do this all day. Yep. The only real question about Arvid's game is will he lap them once again? 5K at a time or 6K at a time. I can imagine him doing this for a long time. The longer he plays, the better he gets those traps and catches there.
    35:42
    Appropriately punished. And he tilted. Uh, it only cost him six grand. Amazing game. He was watching. He was waiting for the tilt through. He was like, "Please don't tilt through." Extraordinary. And so what? And a tilt through, by the way, is that that same pendulum we were talking about that's in the cabinet that dictates whether you lose play on your current ball. If that is still swinging strongly enough as the player, you know, relay switches to the next player. And if it makes contact again and tilt the next player, that as they tilt through, that next player will not be able to play that ball. They will receive a compensation ball. And the worst part about it is whoever tilted through, they get zero for the game. It's the reason you see a lot of these older uh EM style games uh being played two players with players one and player three so that you avoid that possibility. Yeah. I mean, I I I think I how they've set them things up, how they set the pins up here at indisc are are perfectly fine because I actually prefer playing all four players even with that possibility because to me that's just part of playing the pin. And as long as long as it's not some weird tilt bob that's not centered correctly, but if you don't have the tilt bob centered correctly, then I completely agree with you. Yeah. Plus, when you're playing a four player game, two players at a time, those two players who play last, players three and four, they have a huge advantage. Not only have they seen the players before them balls, but their entire scores. So, their targets are very obvious and clear. Absolutely. Okay. So, the Eden is what Eden is doing is a a very good move when you're in a public location because we do have lots of people at this festival that could be walking by. You never want to have somebody, you know, see, oh, look, a game's lit up and it's it's played. And especially when you're in a coin drop location, you have a small kid that like looks, oh, cool. A game's I can go play some free pinball. and uh they'll start playing and then you know go oh no we've just now uh interfered with that you know the kidn didn't did anything wrong by it but uh then Jonathan would have been not being able to play that particular ball there's no harm done in this style of game because every ball is a new is a new ball there's no carryover and Jonathan ball five he's at 52,000 his first order of business is getting 58 which he does done oh the insert that green circle the plastic seemed to have grabbed the ball slightly and directed it towards to center likely unexpectedly. Still, Jonathan does have that lead on Eden, but Josh will be able to pass him easily with this bonus alone just by plunging. Correct. And I don't I don't mind that tilt that Jonathan took there. I mean, he did not have much bonus built up. I think he had maybe a couple thousand. I mean, maybe you get past Josh if he house balls with those couple thousand, but I I agree. He had to save that one. Yeah, he needs to be thinking big just because he he took third in that first game too and he needs to be part of the conversation. He he definitely wanted at least a second place there uh which he will not get.
    38:50
    So yeah, that uh that made Josh very happy because Josh knows that he's Yeah, I think almost guar absolutely guaranteed. Not quite. He has just under a thousand less than Jonathan does. So if he somehow miraculously managed to hit zero or one small 10point switch and drains, he would not catch Jonathan. But other than that, he will. All right, Eden plunges. Will he get a flipper decision? Ball on flipper, please. No.
    39:24
    So, Eden takes a last and we are in the situation that we talked about of having a incredible game three, you know, where we're going to have at least three, if not all four players still viable for taking the title. This is standing situation is thrilling as well as just the fact we're playing classic games where anything can happen no matter how good you are as a player. Now Josh is targeting Arvid. It is a long shot. We've seen this before. Yeah, deja vu all over again. So for those who didn't happen to see the plunge, it got stuck on this gate right here. And what that little you can't see that metal the metal bracket there has a little flap that comes down towards the playfield to allow the ball to come out of the shooter lane but then to not allow it to go back into the shooter lane. But sometimes the ball can get stuck there next to that top of that uh passive uh rubber uh that's just under the plastic and uh the ball will probably be placed back on the right flipper because that's what they did the last time. Now I imagine Josh is is very happy with this situation. He avoids one pop feed. We did it for someone else. One of the scary things. Got to be consistent.
    40:40
    Yep. And you overheard that in the microphone on the game. And I completely agree with that decision. The most important part is you be consistent with how you make decisions and making rulings. Yes, every tournament's different and the style of the rulings are different, but you do need to be consistent within your own tournament. All right, balls on the right flipper. That's a great shot. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Okay, there we go. He's passed. Now he's with the bonus. There we go. Job number one done. Now he has to score close to, you know, 170,000. So yeah, when you were asking, you know, how how much bonus do you need before you collect at this point? I mean, you're going for 8 9k. Yeah, correct. And in a way he can relax because it's such a long shot to win. It's also um he doesn't have to worry about tilting through to another player. So he can go all out in every possible way without hurting himself. Yeah, he still had he hadn't found the drop catch yet. Like Arvin had it where Arvin was getting like I'd say between 50 to 75% of his drop catches he was getting control again on that right flipper whereas everybody else I'd say 25 to 10%. This was a tricky game to play. Um, and a cruel game at that as well, but Arv got his hands on it. He picked it for a reason. Indeed. And he I like how it was set up because bow and arrows are notoriously long playing because if that feed is that that friendly to always go to the right flipper and if the drop catch were just, you know, a breeze that anybody could do it, then we would have been here for like another 15 minutes watching that game. but instead it rewarded skillful play and with that combined with the very sensitive slings punished you if you messed up. Yeah, it was it was a great showing of you know Arvid's ability to adapt quickly to the uh the changing feeds and Yeah. And those tap passes were phenomenal. I consider them very bold, but he executed them well cuz those tap passes if you tap too lightly the ball just slides down the middle. Yep. And that was that was unique. I I never usually see people intentionally. You know, sometimes you accidentally mess up and you accidentally slap the ball to the side and you accidentally tap it. But um in his case, he was doing it intentionally and he wanted to tap as the ball was coming towards the flipper, not on the flipper. And timing that tap with the the contact with the flipper is tough to do. Okay, we have it's now been changed in player order. So Josh was the highest seed coming into this final four match up. So, we're presumably that Josh picked this game. I I imagine this is practice as Josh is Yeah. Oh. playing a one player game right now.
    43:29
    Now, do either of you know the qualifications of what what got practice, what didn't? Cuz I saw some games did, some games didn't. I'm I'm not familiar with I didn't I didn't participate in this tournament. Andre, do you know do you know what it is? No, I'm not sure. I don't I don't know if it's a matter of new games inserted in the tournament they haven't played or you get a chance to practice on a game you did not play during the qualification phase or the playoff phase to be fair just so you can try it. I'm not sure how it works, but again, this is practice. We're talking about practice. And you know, I'm I'm a fan of the the practice after a target match like qualifying cuz some of these players have gotten the chance to play these games and some of them haven't. and just helps level that uh you know level that experience. Wizard is a game where you can do well just by getting the ball in the right flipper and shooting the left spinner where you see that little tent, but there are a couple other things you could do. There is the feed down the right side um that flips the flags and that tends to hopefully go to the left flipper. You could sometimes backhand a a ball from that feed to the left spinner as well. Beyond the left spinner and just shooting it all day into the saucer, which adds to your bonus and gives you 3,000. Another thing to do is to go aggressively for flag number three, the bottom circle there. That will light the opportunity for double end of ball bonus. After hitting number three, it'll need to go down that right lane, that right feed by the magnets to turn on the double bonus. Some players might go for that more aggressively right after off the bat and some might go more gently um just shooting the left spinner. You can, if you are aggressive and desperate, shoot the 5,000 target on the right. It's hard to hit. their thick post sneer there and a lot of times it will come out of there nicely off a hit or a miss. So Jonathan had he bounced into the flag three there. He had double bonus then at the ready, but unfortunately he was never able to get control and get a clean shot back up top to feed that saucer or to get a lucky bounce in. These flags you'll see right here. There's flags 1 2 3 and four. Those flip over when they're activated by the targets here, the three here, and the one here. And you need to go through that lane. It will collect all flags that you've flipped. And that plunge to the saucer is powerful. It It awards you a total of 6,000 points counting your bonus and the 3,000 you get for hitting it. So Eden barely played there, but he's very close in second place after ball one just from hitting that saucer. Yeah, these these are very lowscoring uh balls of Wizards so far. Once again, this is an electromechanical machine. You can see it with the physical score reels. So, per the setup at this particular tournament, all electromechanical games are on fiveball. So, once again, we will be having a fiveball game here. This is the ultimate game, game number three of three in the classic target match play finals at Inisk. It never drains in Southern California. And we are at 4442. So, whoever wins this is guaranteed to win or at least force a tie break.
    46:49
    So Josh, oh lovely save there. He has flag two, which is not that great. Flag one is uh a little bit better, but it's still not great. Flag three and four are the powerful ones.
    47:01
    He's opting just to go up top. And he did light the spinner off the plunge. So it's worth 100 versus 10. Yeah, I mean with scores this low, that 6k saucer is it's pretty good. Plus the plus the spinner. Yeah, it's it's valuable. 100 per spin and that 3,000 plus you get all the the other bonus points up there. You get advanced bonus from the saucer. Yeah, maybe 10 to 15 spins off that lit spinner is another 1500. See a shots and then up top. Wow.
    47:37
    Interesting. It seems like maybe the flipper is like slightly uh raised or like the rubber is uh super not bouncy, but when the ball hits the flipper, it's just all the momentum is dying. Oh, that was beautiful. Just holding it up. Yep. And so that feed that Andre was describing and Zach was just talking about, he held up his flipper and it gave a clean clean control there. Does appear Josh is looking to double his bonus now by hitting flag number three. Still wants it, but he hasn't gotten it yet. His bonus is maximized but not doubled yet. Again, flag three on the bottom if he hits that and then goes down the flip-flop lane of magnets. Yep. And there unlike unlike the other two games that we just witnessed, this one does not have a midball collect bonus. So you only get that bonus when you leave the playfield and when you drain as long as you didn't tilt. So that 19,000, you see all those inserts lit up. And some games actually go beyond by and you can get more lights and it'll it'll start counting up after you've gotten 19,000 and then count up to eight and then count up to seven. But this one goes to 19. So maximum 38,000 if you can get that very very critical flag three that we've been talking about and then going through the flag lane. Now after getting max bonus, because that does that does happen often on this game. Um, what do you guys like to do? Go for do you like hitting that 5k? I like the 5k target. I'm a little aggressive in the way I play and if that 30,000 target in the middle is lit, I tend to go for that off the left flipper. And a lit spinner off the right flipper. Each would hopefully yield you around 3,000. Yeah, I found the the 3000 target. I mean, it's in the center. It looks like it's going to kill you, but it often doesn't. Yeah. Okay. Hopefully, we'll get a chance to see that. Come on. Let's see. Max bonus doubled. I have found some games where that is a safe target. It doesn't look safe just like that target on bow and arrow, but it feeds nicely. So, I just Jonathan attempted to do a dead bounce on that left flipper and either by intentionally or not that that flipper has no bounce to it. It just sat there. So, maybe holding up the flipper off the feed here would be a better move at this point. or a live flip to the spinner lane or a bail out anywhere else. Just as long as they keep it going where he wants to be.
    50:08
    Nice. Good decision. Good control there. Real solid bonus now. He's rewarded with the 3k. He's up to 16,000. Let's see if he goes for the flag three. No, he just wants to go farm some more points. And this is ball two of five. I feel like over the course of this ball that feed out of the side has completely changed. He's now going into the sling like three times in a row. Yeah, it's it's Yeah, just across, you know, six balls we played. Yeah.
    50:37
    I just I'm wanting somebody to do the Andre strat. I I want to see somebody just go hard in the paint and go after that lid 3000 target. Let's go. You can hit it from either flipper.
    50:54
    Nice control from Eden. Finds that spinner shot, which the spinner really doesn't matter. He just wants it up there. Unfortunately, did not get the 30,000 saucer. Now that feel was totally different. Yeah, that was the tip of the right flipper. Oh, no, love. And of course, the worst one straight down the middle. That was close to that. Players need to be really ready and make quick adjustments to those feeds because they're going to be different every time.
    51:21
    that flag one. He's just going up top once that There we go. 3,000 plus the advance bonus. [Music]
    51:33
    Doesn't quite get that saucer. Will the pots give it to him? No. Gets does get a thousand target up there and bonus advance at that those targets. Good ski jump. And the ski jump is where you hold up the flipper and let the ball go over the other side. Unfortunately, a little bit of a flipper flop there and cost him his ball, but not bad in the grand scheme of things.
    51:53
    Now Josh is stepping up. Ball two. I think he's in first place already after his ball one score. Yeah, Josh looks like he has 45. And we have uh Eden is 28. Jonathan at 34. And Arvid hasn't really gotten to play much and only has 11.
    52:16
    There we go. You want that saucer? Does not get it and does not get the flag lane either. Oh, but the pops give it to him.
    52:29
    [Music] And a little bit late on the spinner lane. Good nudge back up top. Does he get the bounce into the 3000? He does. Plus advanced bonus. Ooh, that was the slowest feed we've seen. That was so sketch. Yeah. He's smiling about it because he knows he's like, "What happened? Why Why did I not get my nice feed?" And he's smiling because he survived it. Exactly. His ball's cradled on the right flipper. It's It's right at that gate, those rubbers uh around that uh the gate where the ball enters into the playfield from that lane. It just seems to like sometimes the ball just smugs it and causes it to do weird things. There are things players could do to manipulate the ball some when it's in that lane. gentle shaking, uh maybe shoving as it's coming out of the mouth in case they're afraid of it going down the middle. And look at that. Josh has got a strong lead, but there are three more balls to play. Any of these players could do the same thing he did with a double bonus. 38,000 points for a full double bonus if they could do it. Plus all those other points that come along the way. Yeah. So Josh took a score up to 95K. Whoever wins this game once again will get four points and will be guaranteed to be at least tied for first. Any of the players who have four already will be guaranteed to win. Oh yeah, Arvage showing a little bit of frustration there and and understandably so. Arvage final has been feast or famine thus far. It has. Great point. Yeah, that's nothing on on Viking and then just obliterating bow and arrow. He should have saved some of those bow and arrow points for this wizard game if he could have.
    54:13
    Yeah, I mean Josh with 96,000. I mean, he's up he's gotten the two max bonus flex on his two balls. It's it's going to be it's it's going to be hard for these players to to catch him if Josh can keep that up. you know, they're kind of hoping that he has a couple, you know, non-max bonuses, no double bonuses, um, in order for them to make up that difference cuz other than bonus, there's really not it's not that much. I mean, there's the 5k target, there's the 3k target, but those aren't very safe to get. Every once in a while, I found some of these copies of wizards where the rebound from this 5,000 target will give you a nice feed back to your flipper for some control, but that's your mileage may vary. It looks like the posts at the entrance of the 5,000 target are actually wider than they were last year during classics 2. And I think they might have done that last year. I mean, that was the impression I got just to bring in another element of the game that people don't normally go for because the 5,000's there just so hard to hit. You've seen none of the players intentionally go for it yet. What I see happening now as we're coming down to the end of this final game, the final three balls, is players are going to be put to a decision of tilting versus not tilting to stay alive. To get this title, they will have to get ahead of Josh or at least take a second if it's Eaton or Arvid to tie him. And so there might be some tilts near the end. More aggressive kind of shoving of the machine knowing they must take a first or second in this game to be in the conversation for Champion. Yeah, it's a great dynamic added on a lot of these uh bonus heavy games.
    55:55
    That was a delightful feed that came out. He could have actually maybe live caught that on the right flipper because it's totally changed coming out of that flag lane. Oh, he has the flag three lit. He has three flags ready. He just needs to go up top. Get it in the flag lane. Little bit late on that shot. Still late on the fly. Man, he's going to the fly and it kills him. Ouch. Man, that centered stand up. I don't know if I like the strat. I even in that spot would go for that double bonus up. For sure. So, I'm going to ask our producer Carl. Uh what is the do we know how much the uh the the cash prize being taken home by the winner for this tournament? Looks like he's he's finding that out.
    56:44
    So meanwhile, pinball Jesus playing ball three and Eden has all four flags but no, he trusted the dead bounce and it didn't bounce. The table was set. And then they did that thing where you take the tablecloth and like rip it out from underneath the plates and everything else and rip the plates off. That was unfortunate on that. In that case, did was he thinking to dead pass from left to right? I think so. And that we've seen though that that left flipper is a little bit loose and so it's not dead passing. And again, and we see Josh step up. We Oh, he has a he has a bonus flag. Free flag. Oh, look at that. It's like instant flagging. So, everybody's going to get light spinners, I guess. Is that spinners or is that pops? Flag one, I believe, is spinners. Okay. No, cuz Oh, now it didn't register either. Uh-oh. I don't know what's going on. Wizard. Wizard is doing some wizard things. That happened earlier as well with that top flag. Yeah, cuz Spinner's four. You're correct. Oh, and now it's back to normal. Okay. As if Josh needed some extra help. He gets a little bit there. Well, speaking of getting help, the the winner of this game is going to get some help towards their travel costs as the winner is going to take home $2,300. Second place just under $1,700. Third place will get $1,100 and fourth place will get just north of $700 in this classic target match play final here at Indis. Arvin gets a flipper decision. He goes right at the double bone. You know, I I agree. In this situation, he's here to win. He's going for that 100k. He needs that double bonus.
    58:34
    Okay. Got flag one and two, not three. Oh, Arvin, you're killing me, man. Nice shots pass. That was excellent. Okay, now he's just going to go up top and take it.
    58:50
    That Oh, no. Oh, he's he lives. Oh, and the sling is not very sensitive.
    58:58
    Oh, a what a path that ball took. That was a weird path for sure. I think he was just going back up top. Yeah, he he seemed to change strats. And I don't In this situation, I think if you're going for first, you need that double bonus. You might as well just get it out of the way. Yeah, especially on Oh, see the deadly the deadly dead bounce, the lack thereof on the left flipper. And what we're talking about with a dead bounce is in most pinball machines, depending upon how that linkage is set up with the flipper, if you let a ball that's coming across the playfield and hits the fat of the flipper, it will usually do this beautiful little bounce over to the other side, allowing you for either a control or a better flipper decision as opposed to take something on the fly. But in this case, this flipper, if you dead bounce, it goes to the collect bonus. I'm pretty surprised we haven't seen anyone go for a drop catch out of that. It seems like it would be a good angle for it cuz the sh's pass is working great. Well, I he did it again. What do we see? They're obviously they're not watching their fellow players play and learn from the mistakes.
    60:10
    Well, those no down no bounce dead bounces are are definitely surprising um when they do have it. And so this is a unique situation, this particular pinball machine because of the pace that you guys were talking about earlier as far as the bonus being maxed and capped. You can't get more than that 38. Josh is in the cat bird seat right now. It looks like he's got 7,000, but it's 107,000 as indicated there on the back glass. No matter what Josh does on this ball, it's going to be a long road for these other players. A lot of 5K or 3K targets plus a max bonus. And Jonathan in particular, player two, will need to win the game to still be in conversation for this title. Oh, that shhats.
    60:59
    I think I would almost shhats all day until max bonus. Yeah, it's it's kind of it's it works it seems. Oh, fend the sling. It's top of the sling. What are you doing, Wizard? Just looking forward to when we see one go like direct right out lane or something like that. Oh, he's got the flag three and he survives the outlane area.
    61:25
    That's a great shot. He was so late on that. He knows it. He really wants the ball to traverse that far right lane with the flipping magnets. Still a strong ball, strong bonus. Huge lead from Josh Sharp, player four.
    61:45
    Yeah, Josh. This the only way. So he we will likely not even have to watch Josh play ball four unless one of these three players can put together the miracle ball of Wizard and get a 100,000 roughly on their on their ball five. That's just a catch, Josh. Yeah, that's just a force to play his ball five. And like you were saying, Zach, there's kind of a cap on scoring once you get the max double bonus of 38,000 points because they'd have to get a lot of extra points from dangerous places or from an unnaturally long ball to pass Josh in addition to a 38,000 point bonus.
    62:32
    That was really skillful, dynamic play from Arvid. He was adjusting how he handled that feed based on how fast it came down, including saving a straight down the middle feed. That's the worst feed we've seen so far here on Whizzer, but he's recovering nicely.
    62:50
    Oh no, it's trouble. All right. Oh, he did the dead bounce. It didn't kill him. And he's hitting the spinner beautifully as he's coming out of these saves.
    63:03
    Okay, I'd go for the flag three green now. Yep. I think he heard you calling.
    63:17
    There's the chats pass up top. Get the 30,000. Yes. Around the world and in. Oh. Oh my god, that feed was so fast. Direct sling right out. But there's that maximum bonus and a huge lead for second place. Yeah. So Arvin is guaranteed not to take first now. He can't catch Josh. But that was incredible. Ball five just to put up that almost I think a little more than 50,000 in one ball of wizard. An excellent ball. Jonathan's tournament at stake here. Oh man. Okay. Nobody dead bounce. Please don't dead bounce. I think we learned from the last ball. I hope. Yeah.
    64:02
    Oh, and there it goes. He will finish at just over 80K. And then will he pass Arvin? He passes Arvin by 1,000. 1,000 points. Now, that will not that may not change the the standing, so to speak, because Jonathan is two match points behind Arvid in terms of where the match stands. So even though Jonathan passed Arvid on this game depending upon what Eden does here, Arvid still may finish higher because he may still get the one point putting him at five and Jonathan getting two putting him at four. So I But Jonathan passing Arbit also gives him a chance for third here. If Eden doesn't pass anyone, correct? They would be tied. Correct. We would have a little bonus pinball for the third place. That'll be a it'll be a $400 game of whatever on the tie break. But Eden, what he's looking for here, he's first first order of business is, you know, get to 80K or 82K as it may stands. And Jonathan wants the impossible. Eden score between 81 and 82,000. So he passes Arvid, but not him. That would be something. That would be something. [Music] Okay. Pops. What are you going to do? What are you going to do? Didn't catch it. Goes on the fly. Has flag. has all four flags. Go in the saucer. Go in the Yes, full flags. Did not trust the dead bounce. Wise choice. 17,000 double bonus. Got a 5k target and he's he's getting real close with the with his bonus here. Yep. He's just shy of 80,000 right now. I think he's got it. Yeah. Yep. With that with that spinner rip. As long as he doesn't tilt, he has the 38,000 in the bank and will take. Don't do Oh my gosh. Looked like a hard shove, but I think it was just a slap. He did get away with it. Of course, he didn't catch Josh, but he did not catch Josh. But that means that we are all settled. Josh gets to take the victory plunge and just plunge that ball because he has already won the Classic Target Match Play tournament here at It Never Drains in Southern California, walking away with $2,300. Very excited, I'm sure, to win a tournament at a major.
    66:29
    And Carl, do we know how what's the Whopper estimate for this classic? Carl doesn't know. And whopper meaning world ranking points at stake. You know, there were a lot. This was a two-day tournament with some of the best players in the world. A lot of games played and uh some people are going to see some substantial jumps in their world rankings after. Absolutely. Yeah, this will is it a it is a certified tournament. Correct, Carl? No.
    66:58
    Doesn't think so. Okay. But even regardless of that, there's still a massive the field was very difficult. lots of top players in the world as we just saw playing in it and they will win a lot of ranking points and so you can find out about those things if you want to. You can go to IFPA Pinball.com. So if stands for International Flipper Pinball Association and more importantly let's show off that tro Oh, they already took the trophy away. Oh, it's over there ready for the the video interview. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So they will win that. They win that cash. the other players walking away with 1,700, 1100, and 700. And there's a lot more to come here. So, if you've enjoyed this, if you've enjoyed this production here from IE Pinball, please subscribe to the channel. Like the channel so that you get alerted when we have more stream coming your way. We will have more streaming coming uh later this weekend starting tomorrow at 10:00 in the morning for the women's finals and then later in the afternoon early a late afternoon rather early evening the classics on Saturday which is a different classics tournament from the one you just saw. And then on Sunday we got the big one. We got the major that Mr. McCarthy sitting next to me has has won in the past in 2022. The Open IFA World Championship starts at 10 10:00 a.m. Pacific on Sunday.
    68:23
    Oh, okay. It looks like we're about ready for the uh the trophy ceremony here for our final four led by the illustrious Jeff Tiolis. So, I think momentarily we're going to be passing it off to him and uh we'll get to we'll get to hear from our winners. Thanks for watching everybody. Here are your winners.
    68:48
    And since we have it on Sunday night is the high stakes final. So, Sunday night if you want to tune in for high stakes. So, tons and tons of competitive pinball to tune in for. Like and subscribe to IE Pinball. We thank Carl very much for all the work he's done.
    69:51
    All right. Well, we got a little bit of technical difficulties here. So, give us just a moment before we do this uh awards ceremony. So, we're telling the world where it's streaming, but if you happen to be in California or Southern California, this world championship that Zach won two years ago is an open world championship. Anyone can play in it. All you need to do is come to the Riverside Convention Center. The qualifying will continue today all the way through 11:00 p.m. as well as all through tomorrow. Take your shot. Yeah, take a chance. You have even now also can still do the Classics. The Classics qualifying goes all the way through, I believe, 5:00 p.m. or 400 p.m. tomorrow. So, plenty of time. If you like classic pinball, come on down. It's a It's a very reasonable price for the quality of pinball machines and the amount of fun you're going to have here and new friends you're going to make. Or uh you could try your hand at the high stakes, $500 buyin. There's still available, I believe, a couple of tickets. Top prize is $15,000 guaranteed. 15K, the largest prize in pinball. Yep. So, we're I think we're almost ready here, but uh yeah, and there's also a free play area. So, if you come down here, you pay the entrance fee. You don't even have to compete. You can also you can also go play in the free play area. There's I think roughly 20 to 30 machines set up, new and old ones. And now, let's throw it over to Jeff there who's live with the winners.
    71:48
    Now, I don't know if they can hear Jeff, but he's probably saying something about Josh Sharp not finishing second in a big tournament this time around. He gives him a lot of grief about those World Championship runner ups, but Josh is the champion today.
    72:05
    Apologies for the technical difficulties here. We're trying to get the final interviews in here. So, we're just I'm taking your spot doing it on the fly. Thanks for being patient. You want me out? Yeah. I gotta I gotta do it from here. You're there,
    72:33
    Where there's a will, there's a way. Right, Carl? We find a way. Okay, that's right, Jeff. Thank you. Thank you very much. Hey, it was nice to see those uh Matt Robottom uh pitchers. Those were good. This is Rebecca Salem. She's helping me out with the hardware because we've got to pay out these wonderful top four players of Classics Target Match Play, including this man from Edmonton, Alberta, the home of Yagpin, Jonathan Pockin. Congratulations. Fourth place. Thank you very much. Get on the mic there, buddy. Uh pretty exciting to make it uh this far in such a big tournament. Yeah, an incredible company. And uh I would just like to say thank you uh to everyone and uh looking forward to the the plaque. I guess I didn't know there was a plaque. Look at that hardware. Thank you, Jeff, for all you do. I appreciate it, Jonathan. Great. Thank you both. I'm sure you'll do well the rest of the tournament. Thanks very much. All right, in third place coming over here. Uh, it's a shorter trip to get to this microphone uh than the travel to get here cuz he came from Sweden. He is one of the world's best pinball players. In fact, top uh 10 in the world. His name is Arvid Flegar. How are you, my friend? I'm good. Good. Hop on the mic there. So, no. Just make sure you Yeah, you can put on headphones if you want. Look at this. Third place. I know that wizard was uh a little mean to you. Yeah, I'm still very pleased. You got to get on the mic there, bud. Sorry. That's okay. I'm still very pleased with uh how the final uh went. Yeah, I know. You come over with your good buddy Vega and somebody told me should you make the high stakes finals, there might be a costume change involved. Yeah, I know. That'll be Sunday night right here on IE Pinball. That's great. Third place. And you got a lot of money, too. Yeah, absolutely. I'm uh very happy. You and your family have had a good time here in California. Yeah, it's great. Uh we stayed in LA for uh one day and we saw some uh cool things. It's a good I think I saw pictures of you on Venice Beach doing some flexing. Maybe I don't know. It was something like that. Arvin, congratulations, my friend. Thank you very much. Great young player, great player overall. Wonderful. Thanks very much. Uh we're going to bring on Eden Stam here from BC. He came in second. Here he is. How you doing, Eden? I'm I'm doing great. Okay. Thank you. I'm doing great. I want to know your thoughts on Viking. I love it. Yeah, I love it. I'm fine with it. Um obviously it treated me well. Yeah. Couple good saves. I hadn't done one on the left side, so I was that was great. Okay. I'm just saying like was the look all part like I mean you had everything but the horn. Yeah. No, no, you were destined to win. I knew this for you, man. Valhalla, right? That's what's Oh, what a good guy right there. Aiden Stam, no shame in second place. No, man. Not at all. The way it was unfolding after just getting housed a lot on uh on bow and arrow and just not getting it. I thought, you know what? And then Josh was playing really well on Wizard. I'm looking at the other scores. I'm like, okay, let's shoot for second. If we start to get on a roll, we'll go for Josh. And by ball five, it's like, I need second. That's how it was. Well, that was amazing. Very clutch. And congratulations. You beat so many people to get to second place. Grateful. Beyond grateful. Well, you're a great player, Eden. Congratulations, buddy. Okay, take care. Can't believe I'm about to say this. Say what? The winner of the classics target match play. Come on over. He's defiant. Proves he's got the chops and we'll we'll talk about the path that we got there. Your IFPA president and winner of the classics target match play. If you can get on mic there, my friend. Look at this. I'm presenting a first place trophy to Josh Sharp. Congratulations. Thanks, Jeff. Yeah, thanks. But I do like the path and how you got there. I mean, that was a great great Wizard game. Let's take nothing away from that. But you've been in this tournament before. In fact, the very first time they ran classic target match, you were second to Jason Werderick, correct? Really? Well, you were right. I I mean, I was bring that up. I'm just saying I've noticed a path. I've noticed a path. Yes. So, in Viking, in bow and arrow, I don't need to be first. I'll be second. I'm great at being second. And then you just sneak in there at the end and bang when it matters. You got to win one in the final round if you're going to win one. That's a good point. And but again, you've won big championships before. I remember you winning the heads up championship if I recall. No, no, it's Stern Pro Circuit. Stro Circuit. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Stro Circuit. And that was a ladder match. And Rebecca, he never finished first until the last game. You just didn't have to be last. Right. This guy's got the method and now he's got the hard work. Efficient, man. Efficient. Way to build the suspense. Yeah. How you feeling? Good. Hungry and like slightly worried about my standing over here since I haven't put a card in yet. Well, we're we'll we'll get you back there. We've got two more hours of this interview. So, I don't want you too much. I will kill you. Josh Sharp, your classics target matchplay winner. Congratulations, my friend. Well done, buddy. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks, everybody. Thanks, Carl. Thank you, Rebecca. Thank you, Carl. Thank you, Emoto behind in the cameras. And and we've had uh Jordan also give us a hand here. Um we have got more action. We do. We have so many things that are going to be coming up this weekend. We have women's at 10:00 a.m. Pacific on Saturday for the women's finals. I have to go put some more cards in for that. Uh then we have classics on Saturday afternoon. And then Sunday at 10:00 a.m. Pacific, the open final, the big one. The major one. Oh my gosh. We've been watching people put in cards back here for the past two days and it's going to keep going tomorrow. And last but not least, the people who shelled out the money to put in their cards. High stakes on Sunday night. It's all right here on IE Pinball. Watch on Twitch. Thanks for viewing and we will see you tomorrow.