head-to-head pinball podcast this is episode 36 a what's that about is that because i just came back from canada oh that was horrible and we're right into it here we go i'm ryan c by the way are you and i'm back in australia welcome back g'day g'day cobo is it coba coba coba yeah Cabo sounds more manly though does it okay from some people I think it does okay what have we got today Marty why is this episode 36A and not just 36 because we reckon it's very likely this almost exact time tomorrow night you're going to get 36B because in between now and then something is going to be released what could it be oh my god oh my god oh my god find out soon in like one minute. You won't believe what happens next. Click here to find out. So what we had on the weekend was a, oh, look, it wasn't necessarily a reveal. It was possibly an announcement or probably the best way to describe it is an admission. Yeah, I mean, because we live in the podcast world and sometimes we hang out on forums and everyone talks, we kind of knew that Ironman was coming. Oh, we've been saying it for how many months? Exactly. So it wasn't really news to us or exciting for them to finally admit that it was coming. But in 24 hours, we'll have the rest of the details. And I guess we think like this, but there's a lot of people that didn't know it was coming, like some people on Facebook and things like that. They're normal everyday customers. Yeah, but also, you know, I guess previously there has been rumours of titles coming out, and they haven't been announced. So, you know, you never really know until they finally say it. And what we know is, well, what we officially know is very little, in that we know that it's Iron Maiden Legacy of the Beast, which is based from their video game, and also now a comic. So it's a simple... Is it the name of their upcoming tour as well? And it's also the name of their world tour, which at this stage, haven't seen any dates for Australia. But yeah, and look, it's Legacy of the Beast is also sort of a reference to arguably their most famous and popular album, which is The Number of the Beast. When they talk about the beast, they're talking about the devil? Correct. Okay. Why are so many of their songs about the devil? Oh, that was probably the cool thing to do at the time I don't know Okay If they come to Australia, are you going? I might do I did see them last time they were here And it was a spectacular concert It really was When was the last time they were here? I reckon it I honestly reckon it was probably two, three years ago Okay If I'll go Would you? Well, I'm After coming back from the US and Canada I'm all about, like, not being at home like uh i want to get out more it's so much fun so um someone i'm so bad with the tickets and stuff i always find out like the you know after it happens so someone let me know if they go and sell in australia i'll let you know i'll let you know you and i can go we'll have a head-to-head iron maiden concert fest i'll know like uh the top five songs just be scratching my head for the rest of them well you know that's pretty much all you really need to know after a while they do kind of sound a bit samey. Don't kill me, Iron Maiden fans, for saying that. I love Iron Maiden. But, you know, even those fans that have got their fists in anger at the moment, just put your fist down and think to yourself, what are the most radically different Iron Maiden songs? There's some that are slow. This is coming from a guy who is on the pre-order list to buy the Iron Maiden Ali Pimple Machine. So, therefore, I'm in a good position to say some of their songs are a bit samey, just a little bit, but one of the most phenomenal live bands to see. So, yep, you and I will go and see them as soon as it's announced. Deal. You know what? We're always the last to know. If anybody out there is listening, first of all, here's about the Iron Maiden Australian concert, send us an email, head2headpinball at gmail.com. All right, we've gone five minutes without actually saying anything about the pinball machine. Well, we said that it's called Legacy of the Beast. That's something about it. So that's what Stern has let us know. What do we know from other sources? We know, well, I mean, I guess by the time, like 50% of people, what are our stats, Marty? Like in the first, I guess we've got a 10-hour window for people to listen to this before they actually know the truth. So how many people are going to listen to it in the first 10 hours? 80% of people listen in the first 24 hours. oh okay well like 10 hours or something I don't know quite a few so quite a few okay yeah you know if you're listening to this you're going to get a sneak peek about what you're going to be confirmed to know tomorrow and I guess this is stupid of us to do this because if we're wrong it sounds really stupid when people listen to it after the reveal that's what's fun about this that's why you know Ryan and I talked about it today and you know Ryan's back and and I wanted him to just have a day of relaxing. But we were sort of debating whether we do an episode after the reveal tomorrow, but, you know, we're still not even 100% sure. I mean, we're pretty sure it's happening tomorrow, but it'd be silly if it didn't happen and then we'd have to record the episode tomorrow. So we're doing one this side. We're going to talk a little bit of speculation about Iron Maiden. We've got other things to talk about. And then tomorrow, hopefully, we'll go into more in-depth. Okay. So tomorrow, I think, I believe at 10 a.m. or so, they're going to show the pictures of the machine and a feature matrix. Later on in the day, time is not confirmed yet, they are planning to possibly do a deadflip stream showing one of the machines. Who knows if it's the Pro or the LE. Well, he did say on his Facebook page today something along the lines of, sorry, no stream tonight, but I'll make up for it tomorrow. And Keith Elwin posted a picture saying, burning the midnight oil with Tim Sexton and David. David, she's the head of the software kind of team at the moment. So maybe Tim Sexton is the coder on this and not Lyman Sheets. And maybe since Tim kind of just joined Stern, maybe the code kind of base and some basic structure was completed by someone else and he's going to be the main rules guy from here on in. As I said, all confirmed a couple of hours. I'm not saying Tim Sexton involved, but sure. Really? Well, I think this This game's been in development for a very long time. I don't think in the last couple of months he can do that much, can he? He may be. Can they put lime and sheets on the game when Batman still might finish yet? Surely not. No, that would never happen. Okay, so Iron Maiden Ellie. A little birdie has told me that the Ellie... I mean, what have people been complaining about with Guardians of the Galaxy Ellie and maybe Star Wars Ellie? Is that the latest two certain teams? Well, I think with a lot of the LEs, they're sort of really saying that there's probably not enough in them to warrant the price or to even call it a limited edition, I guess. Yeah. I mean, they got on a pretty good run at one stage, and they were all kind of selling out very quickly. Now, I don't think that's – I mean, I think Star Wars eventually did sell out. Guardians of the Galaxy I don't think has sold out. so I believe the rumor mill is that they're up in their game big time and Iron Maiden Alley will feature do you know the Super Alley for Batman how they've got that foil you've seen it in person now haven't you? Yeah the very first time I saw Batman was a Super Alley up on the Gold Coast yep so I believe Iron Maiden Alley will have those kind of unique foil cabinet details that won't be available on the premium or the pro It will include a shaker, so there'll be no shaker gate this time. What do we call it again? Shaker gate. Shaker gate. Well, I mean, they'll just take it out of the next machine. It's just like in, out, in, out, shake it all about. Yeah, okay. Do you know how Stern has their Stern glass? I think they call it the HD glass or something like that. Sure. Apparently, that's going to be in there as well. Wow, okay. Mirrored back glass, which, I mean, most of them have that anyway. Yes. Art Blades. Yep. That's going to put a damper on my thriving Mirror Blade business. A custom shooter rod. So that's usually an accessory, so I'm not sure if it's going to be part of the Alley package, but apparently there's an Eddie Head shooter rod. And the sound system. If you remember, the sound system on the Super Alley was a, I believe it's called a JBL sound system. Sure. I looked up the Super LE, but this little birdie told me that it's the same sound system as the Super LE. I looked it up, and yeah, apparently it sounds a lot better. The Super LEs that I've played, I can't remember hearing that much of a difference, but I guess Batman is kind of using old sounds versus Iron Maiden, which will probably be using a lot newer sounds. So what do you think it doesn't have that a Super LE would have? the topper, I guess. The Super LE came, and the LE came with a topper. Oh, sorry, I forgot one. It comes with a red metallic powder-coated trim. So that's the LE. Four flippers, it's Archer. Who knows how much it'll be kind of different. How much the design will be tweaked. I guess we'll see that tomorrow. That's exciting. I mean, this is the thing. Price-wise, Do we think that with all these upgrades, they're going to just chuck it in for free? Because another part of the rumor is that the price may increase a little. Around 500 bucks, I've heard. Yeah, but who knows what country that's coming from? I mean, currency swings all the time, USD versus Canadian dollars, Australian dollars, Euro. So who knows where that price is coming from? Again, I'm saying it this week again, but we get rumors from all over the world. So you just don't know whether they're talking U.S. dollars or Deutschmark. Or Vietnamese dong. Yeah, per dong. So that's exciting. It's exciting to know that soon they're kind of stepping up the game in their Ali department because it's good for business. When the Ali sell out immediately, then people kind of get their ass into gear. and I don't think it's a good look for at least to kind of just be available because they didn't really put the effort into them. Yeah, look, good on them. I mean, again, it's one of those things. There's probably a bit of lag time because their production cycle, what do they say, it's like 18 months to two years for a pinball machine to come to market, right, from when they first started designing it. So, you know, with all the pressure that they've got to up their game, they've probably got machines that have already got their bill of materials they've already got everything done they've got to wait for those machines to be revealed before whatever they're going to step up comes to market so i reckon this is probably what you'll see um but what a good way to do it if they're going to do it with iron maiden yeah so you just to confirm you do have your name down i do yeah it doesn't mean it doesn't mean i'm going to get it i still i tell what I have been doing during the week is watching a lot of it's actually really only the one video I've watched but I've watched it a lot and that is the Archer Whitewood that somebody's got just watching how it plays, how the flow of it is and do you know what, it's one of these really interesting things that when I looked at it I went, ah the play field is quite bare, well yeah But open, I guess, is probably a nicer way of saying it. Sorry, Keith. Barren. It's barren. Oh, it's barren, mate. But, again, this is what we've talked about. If you took off the art on Ghostbusters, it's fairly open. And a lot of the machines are fairly open. That's just the way they look. So, it was just, the reason I'm making that point, I was watching Archer trying to sort of squint my eyes and imagine that it's Iron Maiden artwork. And I've still got to see this thing. Like everyone's saying to me, oh, you know, you've gone. And when I put up the video on Facebook, someone said, oh, I can hear that you're going for it. And someone said, you know, I think on Twitter, have you got your wallet out yet? I still want to see how it looks. and I'll say that because I've also been watching when it was announced, I've been watching a lot of the gameplay of Legacy of the Beast just to see the art style and see what that looks like and I'm not a massive fan of that. Are you talking about the video game? Yes, I'm talking about the video game. I've got to look this up because I've got no reference point. That's alright, we can link it in the show notes um it doesn't matter by this time tomorrow everyone's going to see the art anyway so it doesn't really matter but i'm just sort of talking about my journey thus far will i won't i well this is this is so stupid because then tomorrow we're gonna be like yep i got it deposit pays well the challenge as well is that i haven't sold my hobbit so that's still my money please yeah i've also just paid for my trip to america so that's swept out a whole heap of cash so i can't I believe you organised it already. I literally was like booking hotels and stuff while I was overseas. Well, no, I like to be organised. So I've got it all. It's all paid. The only thing, this week in Pinball, we'll talk about it later, I've got to work out how I'm going to get from Toronto to Pittsburgh. So that's the only thing. Anyway, back to what I'm saying is I was watching a lot of gameplay of Legacy of the Beast and I'm not a big fan of that art style. so okay what's zombie is zombie yeti art but who knows I mean I guess zombie yeti art on the play field yep and there's also obviously the animations and stuff but let's let's move on because as I said all this is going to be almost redundant tomorrow well there's just a couple of things to note as well so just the other thing to note as well before we move on is that we sort of did see a bit of a a sneak preview from the gold standard himself coast to coast I believe he may have an interview with keith coming up exactly so we'll have the cliff nose version of the interview the gameplay footage from dead flip and the initial announcement as well in a mega marathon 36b episode tomorrow and so and so what i've heard is that isn't rolling stone that are going to be making the announcement tomorrow i think jeff crossed that out and uh on this big and pinball and said something else so okay cool who cares i mean it'll it'll be it'll be on all social media five minutes after. So, everybody, you can now stop listening to the podcast and tune in in 25 minutes' time. But for those that are continuing, we've got a million-dollar giveaway, so keep your ears saying. Stay tuned. So, this podcast, Taylor and Tommy, they interviewed the guys from Kingpin, and we got a little bit more information about the story behind Circus Maximus bringing Kingpin to Texas Pinball Festival. Um, the summary, I guess I listened to it on the plane is that in late December, they started putting it together. So that's only a couple of months ago. Um, the whole emulation side to, to put it over to P-Rock took, uh, three or four weeks work. They didn't really play test it because they, they had the playfields. Apparently it wasn't clear coded and they kind of were playing around with it. And they said they don't like the way the ball rolls and the way it plays. They took everything off, clear coded it, put everything back on. And this was just kind of like a couple of weeks, you know, before TPF. All the parts used, I believe, besides kind of the new system driving it all, were all original parts. And they still have the original RAM molds as part of their kind of purchase. What else? They said that some Kingpin owners have reached out to them and are willing to help with parts if they need them. they contacted the old coders that worked on the project originally and kind of expecting like oh hey you know obviously you guys didn't get to finish it what was the idea behind this mode and that mode and and you know was it going to be deeper and i guess they found out that the ideas weren't that deep necessarily as in like what is in there is actually the game and they just wanted to fix a bunch of bugs that exist in the code. Right, okay. So they didn give any clues as to what the new codes will detail but there will be a switch you can kind of pull So if you want to play an original game flick the switch one way you going to play it Oh, so it's like a tip switch. I'm just making that up. It will be an option. It might be selectable in the menu or something, but both of them will be on there. If you want to be true to the original, you don't need to buy a separate machine. It'll be a software selectable kind of thing. Well, I mean, that was probably the... I would say the problem with Capcom games is layout's fine. It looks great. In fact, I think... Flipper strength is good. Flipper strength is amazing. I think probably the highlight of all those machines really is the art for the flipper strength, right? I love that game. Great flipper strength. We need to start making T-shirts, and one of them should be just something about Capcom and flipper strength. It's what everyone mentions when they mention Capcom games. It's a missed opportunity for you and your TPF shop T-shirts. but really it's the code that's really been lacking in the games in that they're just not very deep yeah so so when they wrote and wrote um you know spoke to them and said you know what were your rule ideas they're like well that's it they should have known they should have known before they picked up the phone that was all that was going to be there it's a cap top game strong flippers though so 10 out of 10 flippers will flip again um a plus plus um i was gonna say so i think they're yeah i mean they do have ambitious plans they wouldn't put a date on it but they said they they would like to start shipping sometime in 2018 um they are in talks with a couple of kind of contract manufacturers and i don't believe it's kind of like the letter folding type it's more like the the you know people that are producing pinball machines type um who knows it could be cgc or it could be american pinball who knows um it does run p-rock as i mentioned before yep um and it's quite funny so now you've got circus maximus using p-rock we have spooky pinball that uses p-rock for tna and now alice cooper yeah yeah and i believe american pinball also do the same so that's really good for jerry and the uh p-rock crew because basically that's you know it helps people out i guess uh i don't think it's popping up p3 well no there's nothing to do with that i'm not going to make any comments on on p3 in that regard i'm just saying that it's there's three companies now that uh are producing you know potentially hundreds of pinball machines a year and they're using the same system it kind of i guess uh unifies everything. Well, that sounded like I was being a bit of a dick, but what I was actually going to say was I like that because that really secures that company so they can really focus on the multimorphic platform just being as great as it can be. Yeah. So I'm happy that they've got that. I would hate to think that there's some companies where they dry up on their cash flow and therefore they fall under. They've got that keeping them alive so they can just keep focusing on that platform. Yeah, and it's not only that. It's kind of the tools that are immediately available to you if you're going to be developing a game using the P-Rock system. I mean, I understand for producing thousands of pinball machines, you'd want to produce your own potentially, I guess, because it would keep the cost down and you might want to tweak the system in a certain way that wasn't available with P-Rock. But if you're keeping the numbers under a certain amount, it just makes sense to kind of buy something off the shelf that would plug straight into your machine and you get going from there. Was Big Lebowski P-Rock as well? I'm guessing it was. I don't know. It might have been. Anyway, so good on them. So everything that's not everybody else is P-Rock these days, so that's good. Yeah, I mean, good luck to them. It sounds like they've still at the very early stages, and as I said, because they use all original parts, they have to go now and manufacture. Well, Dan, that's what I was going to say before. Yeah, I really don't think any will ship in 2018. And I'm not saying that in a negative way, and I don't mean any ill will against the company, but I just believe pinball is hard, and they're going to start to see how hard it really is. Not everyone thinks it's hard. Okay. We're not allowed to mention him because he likes us mentioning him. He does. So shall we talk about more information that we've received about Alice Cooper Nightmare Castle? Go for it, Marty. I'm going to be talking a lot later on about my week in pinball, so this is all you. This is me to balance it out. So this is what we know after the release that we had last weekend, like the proper release. So it's limited to 500 games. We know that. You were on record saying that they're going to sell out. In fact, I think you said easy. Yes. And what we know is that I believe Charlie's already said it's their biggest sales day they've ever had. Yeah, and when Rob Zombie was kind of released, it was a free-for-all. I believe within a couple of days, they said they're sold out or maybe within 24 hours. I can't remember. But I guess that means they've already sold maybe 200 or so. I emailed Charlie, but it was just a couple of hours ago. So I'm not sure if they're going to release their numbers. Probably in their best interest not to. but the best day ever is great that's awesome and also what we know about that is that they're saying that shipping will begin June 2018 and that if you are an existing spooky customer you'll get bumped to the front of the line for your loyalty but what do we know about the game so limited to 500 games 10 classic songs from Alice Cooper someone's mentioned what they are but jeez I think I'll need to recognise one Yeah, you know, I'm the same. I looked at them and went, yeah, I recognise a couple of them. But you know what? Sidebar, you know, I've talked about this before with Aerosmith. When I played Aerosmith and I went, oh, I don't know any of these songs. I love those songs. How do you not know any of the songs on Aerosmith? Because there's only really two or three songs that anybody knows. And one of them is because of Run DMC. Okay. So it's all I'm saying. But a lot of their early sort of bluesy stuff is on there that sort of wasn't really, certainly in Australia, wasn't really all that commercial. So that's why it was just me there. But I love all those songs on the machine. So even though Alice Cooper, some of those songs I don't know the titles of, they're probably going to be great songs. Sure. And so there's also six instrumental songs from Matt Piggy D Montgomery. I don't know. Who dat? I don't know. Maybe that's just the in-between soundtrack between the songs, maybe. Yeah. I've got the list of songs here if you want me to read them. Go for it, and I'll tell you which ones I know. Feed My Frankenstein. No. Cold Ethel. Yep. Apparently, that's a very interesting story, that one. Yep. Yeah. Lost in America. No. Disco Bloodbath Boogie Fever. I don't know, but right now, I want to fucking listen to that song. Right now. Just go Bug, Bath, Boogie Fever. Say it again. One more time. Just go Bug, Bath, Boogie Fever. That's how it goes, right? I want to listen to that song right now. No more Mr. Nice Guy. Yes, I know that one. Brutal Planet. No. It's The Little Things. Nope. Go to Hell. That's a terrible song. Billion Dollar Babies. Nope. And there's one more that this person didn't know. I just screencapped a post on Pinsize. Yeah, so, you know, already, I don't know any of them, but what was that name of that one again that I like? Disco, Bloodbath, Boogie Fever. Come on, come on, right there. That is just going to be the best thing ever. Okay, in 36B, maybe I'll sing you out with Disco, Bloodbath, Boogie Fever. Okay, you've got 24 hours to learn that song. To learn the song. You can sing me out. Anyway, it doesn't really matter as long as it sort of fits the theme of the machine. Yep. Guardians of the Galaxy. There you go. Well, those songs just don't suit it. Anyway, it's got a working guillotine toy. Well, we know that. We saw it. It looks amazing. The Castle Physical two-ball lock with moving Frankenstein monster. I think that's the Frankenstein that peers over the wall or something. Yeah. It kind of looks cool. three control drop targets including two Denise style locking on tower on lower sorry one on upper so they're now they're now just owning it now the Denise style lock where are they? I saw the one it says two on the lower one on upper and I think we may have mentioned it as well but it's got one of what I think is I think it's a very underrated pinball machine and it has one of the coolest features in an underrated pinball machine and I'm talking about GoldenEye I played that at Texas Pinball Festival Had you not played it before? No What did you think? And the funny thing was the coolest part of it well maybe the second coolest if you think the crotch wear magnet thing is the coolest but the ball lock it wouldn't catch and it was me, Dr. John and Ron Hallett and we were all like, oh, we must not be hitting it properly and I think all of us hit the satellite dish about 20 times each and didn't catch the ball. So that kind of ruins the game because we couldn't start multiple. Hmm, okay. But it's funny that, yeah, it has that feature that the ball goes in the out lane, I guess, and it catches but there was no exposed magnet so it was right where James Bond's dick should be. so it just literally just yeah sorry it's his penis censor that out this is a G-rated show this is G so it just keeps on rubbing his dick until his dick just disappears yeah okay sorry his penis his penis so you know I've got to tell you we when I first ran Melbourne Super Bowl League we used to have it at Bartronica and they had a golden eye there and so many times people would think that they drained and walk away oh wow and the ball would just spit up and by the time they realised it was gone So on Alice Cooper, it holds the ball and then you have to press the button. So do you have to do that on Goldeneye as well? No, it automatically does it. Okay, yeah. I wonder what happens if you don't do it. If you're just like, okay, you're an idiot and it just drains. It probably does do that. Yeah, that's cool. And then probably says, you have failed. Yeah. Man, I probably have nowhere to bring it up later in the episode. But people really, really hate when people machines tell you that they failed. and I don't understand why. And it's mainly got to do with Houdini because Houdini not only tells you that you've failed, it also, like, takes jabs at you when you miss a skill shot. It's like, oh, you're not very skilled at all. People get upset and I'm like, take a chill pill. This is pinball, man. Come on. We had, what's his name? You know, Steve Ritchie's name, Blue Brother. You know? Exactly. Come on. People have been ribbing us for years. You know yourselves, buddy snowflakes. Anyway. So, directional magnet hidden in the castle. Sure, okay. I don't know what that is. Cold Ethel Balcony Drop Lock. There you go. 11 unique shots. Four different ramp shots. What is the difference between a unique shot and a shot? I mean, how many shots are repeated? No one's ever going to say 10 shots, but they're not unique, right? Well, if you think about, I'll give you an example. Mustang, where you've got that left orbit that can have, you know, three different, like, levels. That's one shot, isn't it? I played it like three days ago, but I don't remember. Well, I don't know. Maybe that's what they're saying. These are 11. Each one of them is so unique. Okay. Sure. Four different rap shots. Metal return, Elaine. Habit trails with unique spiraling return on right. That's really quick. That's freaking cool, though. Yeah, it's quick. I thought for some reason it would be like a creature from the back lagoon where it'll go around really slowly. no it's like it's it's back to your uh flippers in split sections amazing i love the look of that um it's got scoops it's got subways it's loaded with castle and monster sculpts by back alley creations um fantastic art package by i don't know zorno must be destroyed um full rgb lighting beautiful lcd animations and appear up system and what i'm going to say is this so and i said it last week and i i never i was never really that overwhelmed by the real the by the reveal sorry charlie don't kill me for that but i've got i've got you know there's some saving here um and i kept saying it was the angle it was the lighting i don't know what it was but this week spooky on their facebook page released a video quite a relatively long video sort of at three minutes yeah three minutes and it was let's say it was at um naval view okay hit your belly button um it looks freaking amazing it looks awesome i finally looked at it saw all the rgb going very tastefully done i get it i love it i just think it looks amazing just needed some really good video footage and so if you could do it again do it all over again i would say get your promo video ready as part of the reveal yeah well i believe you know as it as it always kind of uh is i think jack danger will be heading down there soon to to do a he's a very busy guy this mr mr danger he'll be heading down there soon to kind of do a reveal video because i mean in that video i guess people were just kind of pressuring charlie to release a video because orders opened up, I believe, in the last 24 hours. And people are still hesitant to kind of put money down without seeing a bit more, you know, just from kind of like noisy footage. No, I understand. Now they've got a bit more, but I mean, you're ordering, I guess you're still ordering based on its potential, right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So one more point about this. The price. The price is $6,450. US dollars. US dollars. Now, how much is a Stern Pro? In the US? Yeah. I think it's advertised for six and it sells for like five, five or something. Yeah. Okay. So I think it is maybe a little bit below a premium. Yeah. So it's sort of in between pro and premium. I think it looks every bit a premium. Oh, 100%. Yeah. It's just good value. And we're not shills for spooky at all. I really like... Thanks for yourself. I organised a kickback at TPF. I'm sure you did. No. I've got to make sure I tell people that's not true because everyone believes every bullshit thing we say on this show. I know. I think by now, our 36th and a half episode, people know very little of what we've... In fact, I think it was one of our iTunes reviews that said something along the lines of, you know, great podcast, just don't take it as... That's no joke. That's fact. Okay, fair enough. That's an honest review. Look, the other thing as well is there's add-ons. So, knocker and shaker motor kits all available from Pinball Life. There's protector sets, graveyard decals, mirror blades, the scary blue powder coat, 125. Yeah, I thought that was included. That looks really freaking good. Yeah, pity it kind of wasn't included. I'm not sure what the... Our standard silver vein is stuck. So jazz it up with some shiny, deep blue scary goodness. Yes. Please jazz it up. I'm not telling people to spend more money than they need to, but it does look really nice, and I thought that was kind of stuck, so... Well, the one that we've all been talking about with this is the Butter Edition cabinet. So what is this? Our own recipe. Cabinets are hand-dipped in rich colored inks, no decals, rolled in automotive clear coat protection, and buffed to shiny delicious perfection. $1,000. It's like you're reading something off a French menu. Would you like the clear parfait? It's $1,000. With the shiny delicious perfection. $1,000. Yeah, so I think they want people to pick those up in the US because they don't really like to ship them. So who knows if people in Australia are even allowed to order that. Because what happens if they get scuffed? What do you do? You know? Yeah, exactly. So are we done with that? I think we're done with that. My understanding is right now I believe four confirmed coming to Australia. Oh, exclusive. There you go. Exclusive news. That's after one day. I think it was actually after, I believe, after half a day. Okay. So there you go. Well, that's enough, I think, on Spooky for this week. I'm sure next week we'll have some more information and more updates on how many in Australia. But let's move on to something. And I'm just going to say something that I just don't think I was ever going to say. I don't think anybody ever thought they were going to say. and it's tournament news and the words I'm going to say are Josh Sharpe wins a major well done Josh that's probably going to be your only one though oh jeez well you know what I got to tell you I was watching it and I was so going for him I was rooting for him Over the little kids I was also going for him Oh, gosh. Jesus. He's a good-looking guy. What can I say? Colin Irvin? Yes. Yeah. He was like 15 years old or something? Something like that. And he's a very good player. Wow. I met him at... Insane. Yeah. He's a really nice guy, too. friend of the show Jeff Teolis how did he go well so I think he got out first round but that's what I was going to say when I was really going for Josh but I genuinely felt really bad for Jeff Teolis because he can't he can't call him was it Susan Lucci anymore the Susan Lucci of pinball who's Susan Lucci I don't even know what that is some woman some actress that was always up for like an academy award and always missed out okay and then apparently she got one and it was a shit performance and I think they had a simple thing. I think she missed out 30 times. Anyway. Yeah, he was up against Trent Augustine, Bowen and Keith Elwin. So, like, the group of death, basically. Yeah. So, yeah. And there was also a heads-up championship. Yes, the IFPA heads-up championship. And not to be, you know, letting his brother have all the limelight. Who won? Zach Sharp, the other Sharp. Yes. Couldn't let him have his moment. Had to just, you know, pop in there as well. That's what he does. Roger Sharp checking his, like, text messages that day. Hey, Dad, I won. Hey, Dad, I won again. Yeah. They're very good, those boys. So, in all honesty, well done, both, you know, Josh and Zach, but Zach's got many trophies and number ones, but really good for Josh. You could just tell everybody that was watching was just, they were trying to avoid saying, oh, my God, he could come second. I watched the last game on Robocop, and from my understanding, it wasn't a super great score by Josh, but Colin Irvin kind of tilted all three balls, I believe. Right, okay. Yeah. Did you watch that last game? I didn't get to watch the end. Okay. I'm not sure the result. Yeah. So, I mean, that could have ended in tears for Josh, but he got a little bit lucky there, I guess. But you can't really say that in pinball, right? Because that's just how pinball goes. That is. But I've got to say, those machines were set up so brutal. And in particular, Aerosmith. Just the widest outlanes with no rubbers. It was just sudden death out there. And you would just expect people would be able to blow that machine up. And they just couldn't. Like a six to nine million point game was a good score. Yeah. You know, it was, you know, if you got to a three ball multiball, you were going for it. no one was aborting no because there were so many games that I watched where people didn't even get into multiball wow so it was really it was really getting the crank it up and I can't remember whichever mode it is but the one with the yellow inserts on the side stand-ups everyone was going for that because they're worth good points okay so anyway it was it was great fun to watch I'm glad I honestly I got to just as the the finals happened just after the Iron Maiden announcement was made and then people turned up so I couldn't get to watch it unfortunately. Cool. Just something that I forgot to mention last week is that our good friend, Christopher Franchi, he, I think he started up a... He is now back as friend of the show. Yes, before he was any of the show. But, yeah, Pinball Cult, a t-shirt, little kind of like offshoot venture by him. And I got his first t-shirt at TPF and I forgot to mention it last week. It's actually size L and I'm a medium. He didn't make any mediums because pinball people are a little bit bigger most of the time. So, Marty, do you fit L? I could wear it. It would be extraordinarily baggy but yeah, I could probably wear it. Okay. It's yours. From Franchi to me to you. Well, I'll cut out the middleman. It's from me. Thank you, Chris. I appreciate you giving me a t-shirt directly. Well, we love pinball t-shirts, don't we? I got like four or five t-shirts given to me on the weekends. Yep. Yeah, awesome. Thank you, Chris. Shall we do Slam the Top 100 since we missed it last week? We did miss it last week, so yes, we should. Okay, let's get straight into it. Should we explain? We don't need to explain anymore, do we? Well, for those people that are listening, because we did get quite a few new listeners over the last couple of weeks. Okay, quickly, go. Okay, so random number between 1 and 100, it then corresponds to a machine on the top 100 at Pinside. We then have 30 seconds each to talk about how great each machine is and then we put it to Facebook and people vote on who won the argument but ultimately people just pick their favourite machine. Or their favourite person in Lucas's case. Thank you Lucas, you're the best. Okay, ready to go? I'm ready. Alright, so this is mine. Please generate a number from 0 to 100. Sure. 51. 51 is Roadshow. Ah, yes. I love that game, bro. I love that game. Okay. This one's yours. Please generate a number from 0 to 100. Sure. Seven. Oh, dialed in. Should we just give up right now? Do we need to go through? With this. Because I've always been a big fan of dialed in, so let's... Okay. You're going to go first, Marty? You ready? I go first. Yes. Ready, set, go. Okay, dialed in. I'm done. No. You know what? I'm just going to waste the remainder of my 30 seconds. I will talk about the fact that it is by far Pat Lawler's greatest achievement in pinball ever. he took time out just to come back for this machine you love it i love it the world loves it the the greatest flow layout there is i i i just genuinely think it is layouts fantastic the rules are amazing it is awesome i i got lost uh looking at got pictures of roach to see what i can kind I've sold it. That was 30 seconds. You ready? I'm ready. The world is ready. I can't believe Daldin's seven. Good on Daldin. That's getting up there. Yeah. Okay. Here we go. Roadshow. The true Pat Lawler masterpiece. Not Daldin. A totally non-linear game where you can either go to the south or the north of America. Just options galore. And what better music to listen to when you're into multiple, multiple, multiple, but country music. Every little snippet without you. It's just beautiful. And it's definitely not clunky. It definitely doesn't have too many ramps. Truckies love this. Taz Tiger, he's a truckie. He'd love this game. That's my time off. Okay. You're rebuttal. Ready, set, go. My rebuttal is a question. If you've got two Pat Lawlers in front of you, you've got a dialed in and a roadshow which one will you buy Ryan roadshow is cheap I can buy like 10 roadshows for a dialed in yeah so what would you buy one dialed in this is the worst match this is the biggest mismatch ever you got two seconds left Marty no don't need it okay Alright, you're done. Now I have to bag the game. Now I have to roast the ones that I love. Okay, here we go. By the way, everyone loves Rudy's Funhouse. This is Rudy's Funhouse times two. You've got two heads. What more would you need? Dialed in. The game is reliant on the fucking SIM card hole, and you cannot hit it. Even good players that I talked to this week in pinball agree that you just get into multiball, and you just pray that the ball goes in there. That is a fundamental flaw with the game. And everyone knows that the game doesn't come dialed in, even though it's called dialed in, and it's super expensive. I'm out. Yeah, you're out with bugger all, man. That was just shit-ass. If I can salvage, like, 10% of the votes, I'm going to count that as a win, okay? Just a little personal win. You can't just add rules to slam the top 100. As Aaron... The institution in the pinball world. Aaron is going to vote for Roadshow, I guarantee it. That'll be one vote. I can count on one vote. Yeah. He loves it, Mishney. Okay. That's the slowest. There you go. All right. So go, in about 24 hours, go to our Facebook page, and we will have the voting there for you to vote for Daldin. And if you're not on Facebook, you can't vote. I usually... I was going to say there's another option, but there's no other option. No, I link it on Twitter, but basically the link is to our Facebook page to vote. So anyway, I'm going to win. Whatever. This Week in Pinball not sponsored by This Week in Pinball Jeff So what we've got to remember is I mean yes you went to Texas Pinball Festival and the whole world is just heaving a sigh of relief that they don't have to hear you talk about Texas Pinball Festival again however what we've got to understand is that once Texas Pinball Festival was over your pinball journey wasn't over Yeah I mean I wouldn't call it a pinball journey per se, but it ended up being cool. It was. It's pretty much what you did the entire time. Well, this is the thing. I kind of realized that I'm there alone, right? And what people do I get along with the most? Pinball people. Yeah, of course. So why would I not want to be with the people that I love? Are you going to talk about your week first or am I just going straight into it? You just go into your week. Okay. I'm not going to talk about this stuff too much, but it's probably going to take at least 10 minutes. So I guess when I spoke last, I just arrived in New York and literally just kind of did the podcast and went to sleep. The next day I woke up and I kind of did the touristy crap in New York I said I wasn't going to do, like the Statue of Liberty and kind of seeing the sights. I ended up, at the end of the day, I ended up messaging our mate, he's our mate now, Greg Pavarelli, and he said to hit me up because he's going to be at Pioneers. Pioneers is a little kind of bar in New York City and I went there and played some pinball with him had dinner and they ended up starting a league and I kind of wasn't part of it because it was like a team league kind of thing so I started talking to Levy you know Crazy Levy that guy on Pinside says the most outlandish shit he's hilarious he's like the only guy on Pinside that is annoying and funny at the same time so he repained Yeah. He's just like a real-life troll. So I was talking to his partner, and I was kind of asking for comedy suggestions, like little bars and stuff, because the difference between New York and Vegas is Vegas will have flashlights in your face saying, like, come in here, we've got something going on. In New York, the best places have no signs at all or a little crappy sign. So I ended up walking down to a place called The Stand, and it was hilarious because I said, you know, is there comedy going on tonight? I'm like, yep, just downstairs. I'm like, okay, how much does it cost? And I was willing to pay like, you know, if you want to see like good caliber, you know, comedy in Melbourne, you're paying like what, 50 or 60 bucks? Yeah, for sure. Or like 20 bucks if you want to go to that place in North Melbourne that sucks. It was free. I was just like, yeah, just head on downstairs. And I saw these – it was an amazing night and I can't remember everyone's name but, you know, half the people had kind of like Netflix specials and they were on Jimmy Kimmel and all those kind of things. So that was a great night. The next day, I went on a tour with Charles Thomas to the Jersey Jack Pinball Factory. So that was in New Jersey. It was about a two-hour drive from New York. Absolutely blown away. How great is the tour? I mean, it was just a private tour. It was just me, Charles, and Jack. And the reason why it blew me away is that you can see pictures, and even if someone kind of films the whole walkthrough, until you're there in person, it just doesn't seem big. And I tried to take a nice panoramic picture, and I posted it on Facebook. It looks small. And when you look at it on your computer, it's big, it's deep, it goes so far back. And then when we got to the back, it was just like, here's the parts section, there's like $5 million worth of parts. At any one time, it was like $5 million. That's insane because it just kind of puts into perspective like the difference between them and some of the smaller guys. Yeah, pretty much everything was in final testing. So they had, you know, Wizards of Oz there, The Hobbit, and Daldin being made at the same time. Not everything was on the line, but everything was in final testing. I managed to pick up a Pindemption dongle. Yes. We've talked about it once before, and I messaged you and said, hey, I'm going to get one, and I needed to, like, lock it to a serial number. and I think it was about like 4 in the morning when I messaged you. Yeah, I think it was. Yeah, so I ended up finding an old picture on my phone of me unboxing the Wizard of Oz and it was a very grainy photo. So hopefully that works and you can come over and stream it and win fake tickets, I guess, because I don't have a ticket machine in my... So does it lock to the model or it actually does lock to the... It locks to your serial number. But basically it then enables the option in the menu to switch the pin redemption. So that dongle already exists on the back of your computer on the Hobbit and Wizard of Oz. I think basically it's like an anti-cloning device. So it's H-A-S-P encrypted. I think that's what it's called. And, yeah, that's why that's a locket. So, yeah, Jack was very gracious, had lunch with him. I sat there. Oh, geez, we chatted for about two hours or something, and I got the real Jack, you know, like no, you know. That's all you get, though. like every time i've met him you just get just jack well i mean i always feel like you know he's representing the company so if you ask him a question he has to give you a sales kind of answer because i mean and i'm not saying that in a negative way that's what's kind of expected from a company right um so i kind of talked to him i felt like i was talking to a friend um so that was great and jen was there and and he gave us he gave us a bunch of stuff to give away for the uh for the podcast. He gave us a signed Pirates of the Caribbean Translight. Awesome. Unfortunately, it did get a tiny bit ripped on the way from Canada to Melbourne. A very small amount. We're still going to give it away because it is literally about half an inch. Yeah, it's very small. It's on the edge. So we're still going to give it away. And we also are going to give away a dialed-in side decal signed by him as well. I'm not sure where you'd put a side decal. I guess you'd just hang it up on a wall like you would at a trans light or a back glass. Or people would hang up playfields. Why not? It looks great. So very lucky to get that tour. After that, we went to the Silver Ball Museum just really quickly. In between us arriving there and me leaving, a snowstorm kind of appeared out of nowhere on the first day of their spring. Silver Ball Museum kind of like Pinball Hall of Fame except everything works that sounds really horrible thing to say but yeah the machines are in great condition apparently it's really busy there and people don't like it because of that because you kind of just pay per hour you can pay $16 and you play all day or like $12 for an hour which is what we did because we didn't have time yeah any machines that you hadn't played before yeah Yeah, sure. Lots of them that I don't remember because they were all like EMs and stuff, right? Awesome. The funny thing was it had no sterns there, and it was all – they had three JJP machines, and all the rest were kind of the Belly Williams DMD era, and then a whole bunch of sold states and – oh, Fire. I remember playing Fire. Yeah, that's a fast game. Yeah, it's a good game. It always freaks me out when I play an old game and it's faster than the newer stuff. for some reason I always associate slow and floaty to old games. What else? So it continued to snow all freaking... It took us forever to get back home. It continued to snow and snow and snow, and I woke up and it was, you know, like what I imagine Christmas is like in the US, where it was just like seven or eight inches of snow. Everyone was freaking me out, saying your flight's going to get cancelled to Toronto, and you've got one more day left in New York. What are you going to do? I really wanted to see Central Park. I forgot to do that on the first day. I was planning to do it on Wednesday, but I thought, how am I going to get there when it's snowed under? So I caught the train to the city, ended up hanging out with Chris from the Canadian Spinball Podcast, and Brenda took me out for lunch, and it was amazing. They showed me to a really nice kind of steak lunch, and I got drunk because he just kept on filling up, not Chris, the waiter kept on filling up my drink. we went back and of course Chris wants to do a podcast that's what you do when you're drunk with friends in a little apartment yeah and then we went for a little walk in Central Park you can actually do it I had the wrong shoes, you're meant to wear gumboots and stuff like that, I had normal shoes so I just got totally soaked all the way through then we head to Sunshine Laundromat which is kind of one of the things I really wanted to do there they were running a tournament What do you think of Sunshine Laundromat or just overall before you go to the tournament The games there are set up really hard Yes there no replays so if if you get to the replay value you get an extra ball sure um so i mean the place is designed to make money i did have a nice long chat to peter as a guy who who owns it and he kind of talked about the evolution of how it started and how he came about doing it and um i'm sure it's been podcast before and if If it hasn't, maybe we should get him on the show because he's a really nice guy. But I guess what I'm talking about is like the reveal, right? Like when you walk in, there's some pinballs around. I've seen it so many times. So have I, but when you actually experience it, it's very cool. Yeah, it is cool. I didn't think, I mean, every time I see it, there's like maybe one or two pinball machines stacked on top of, you know, the laundry thingies. There was a lot of them. There was like 10, like he was running out of room. 10 to more machines stacked there. It's an amazing place because the thing I also noticed in New York and in Canada is the barcade crowd is very young. I guess there really is only one thriving barcade here and that's Biotronica, right? And the crowd there is fairly young as well. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, the place was pumping and it was a kind of a league night. So, I think there was no finals. It kind of builds up to some monthly event um i did okay i think i came 11th out of 25 people or so but i mean there was a massive list of people that finished 11th uh i i started with a absolutely horrible game where i lost to someone on a game who was um chin flipping and uh that's that's just depressing it's depressing but it's also like you know really good for the person that yeah good for them and uh yeah so that was with uh greg probably running it and uh and all of his friends and like i mentioned everyone but yeah we hung out there after the tournament uh we played dollar games i taught him how to play gardens of the galaxy because he hasn't played on your code and and it's funny because people don't believe that it's all day now people still think it's great and they still don't believe you until you show them and uh i got like a 200 million um jackpot which is like pretty much the lowest you can get the super jackpot on on orb and they were all freaking out over that small amount i'm like If I'd hit the hurry up properly, that would have been a billion. So, yeah, that was a great night. That was pretty much my New York experience. I mean, there's so much things to do in New York. I could have stayed there a lot longer. The next day, I was off to Toronto and 24 hours with Jeff Teola. How'd that go for you? Oh, God, he's a funny guy. He rocked up to the airport wearing kind of an ACDC. The picture's on our Facebook page. an ACDC t-shirt, like an Australian bush hat, the kangaroo sack in his hands. Oh, my gosh. And got in his car, and he started playing Come From The Land Down Under, and he basically made a Spotify playlist of all Aussie songs, including The Wiggles. And he bagged me about, like, The Wiggles, right? He knows The Wiggles song off by heart. Yeah, I know he does. I'm serious. He was singing the entire list. Oh, I know he does. Yeah. so hilarious we went out for lunch and then we headed to um Player One um and Player One is basically like the Canadian equivalent of AMD in Australia so they're kind of like the biggest uh pimble and amusement distributors sure and these guys are so big they got bought out by a place called Cineplex which is kind of like the equivalent of uh like Hoyt or Village I guess yeah right but Cineplex is so big they also own something called like Rec Room which oh yeah have you heard of Rec Room? yeah on the PlayStation on the VR thing No. I don't think so. Okay, what are you talking about with Rec Room? Okay, Rec Room is like this company in Canada. I'm not sure if it's in the US as well. Sure. It's the weirdest mix of like kind of different rooms. So you walk into this place and it's a restaurant, but it's also like an amusement center, kind of like time zone with pinballs. And then it's like a bar attached to that. And then you've got a pool hall with like skeeble and pool tables. And you've got like a place out back where they play live music. And then there's private rooms for dining, and there's a place where you can eat just poutine and stuff like that. It's all these weird things in one. The place is huge, and Player One is owned by the same company. So because of that, I think a lot more pinball machines and a lot more amusement devices, machines are going out into public. And he showed us the factory, and it was absolutely amazing. I mean, you think a pinball box is big that houses a pinball machine. those massive balloon dropping things they're insane the boxes they come in are just just big so that was Jerry Powell and he kind of allowed us to kind of stay there and play his pinballs and gave us a kind of tour after ours which was really nice, we didn't announce it and he was very nice to kind of let us in after that we went to Yuck Yucks which was a comedy event and we sat right at the front and we knew what he'd be picked on And right when he started picking on people, Jeff whispered a bit of kind of like banter and a heckle to throw back at the guy. And I did. And the guy had no comeback for it. If I was the heckle myself, the guy would have absolutely destroyed me. But there was a comment about his shirt being unironed. And he said, what do you do? And I said, I'm an iron salesman. I'll give you one for free so you can iron your fucking shirt. Something like that. And the guy was like so upset. and he looked at me and he didn't have a comeback and that was all Jeff Sewell was saying. Because that wasn't a heckle. That was just really mean. He was fucking up people, okay? Like, he was... This wasn't, like, a nice comedy event. Like, he was trying to destroy people, so... So he deserved it is what you're saying. Yeah. And then he asked Jeff what he did and he, like, pathologically lied so damn good that the guy has, like... He's like, okay, that story checks out. He was pretending that he was, like, a flight attendant or something and he knew the whole backstory. Sorry. So don't trust Jeff Teos, is what I'm trying to say. After that, we went to a place called Cabin Fever, which was my favorite place in Canada because I went back there the night after and the night after again. And basically, it's a little place with, I guess, I think eight or nine people machines. And a lovely woman called Robin runs the place, and that just kind of became my second home while I was in Toronto. Is this boring to everyone? I don't know. No, not to everyone, just me. Okay, I've got one more day. Hit up Niagara Falls the next day. Amazing to see it in person finally. I would have loved to go out in the water, but it was not available until May. Very weird town. They're trying to make it a tourist destination. I guess it is a tourist destination, but they're trying to make people stay there longer, so they've got casinos. They've got really weird haunted mansion walkthroughs there. We walked through a massive arcade to see if there's any pinball machines, and there wasn't, which was quite funny. Later that night, Jeff left to go to – you can probably blame me for Jeff performing badly at the pro circuit event because we were on about, I think, two or three hours sleep or something. I went to the Raptors game. Do you know who the Raptors are, Marty? No, I have no idea. Okay. I didn't know who they were either until I was pretty much there at the event. So it's an NBA team, and they are Canadian. Well, I guess the players aren't really Canadian, but they're based in Toronto, and they're the number one team. So I got tickets for that, and basketball is a weird sport to watch in person because it's probably the only sport where people would cheer louder for someone throwing T-shirts into the crowd than their team actually winning the game. And I'm not joking, like people going apeshit to try and get the guy with the T-shirt cannon to fire a T-shirt cannon at them. They need to play pinball more. you know I have to say no to people giving me t-shirts these days I've got that many of them well I ended up catching one not you Chris Fanchi you're I'll have your t-shirt thank you I ended up catching one and it wasn't a t-shirt it was like a sweat towel I just I just gave it to someone that was sitting next to me I was like I don't need a sweat towel this means nothing to me no the glory was catching it right yeah because everyone was like yeah everyone was was like it was like crack to them they're like Give it to me. Give it to me. I know. I know. Anyway, that was fun. After that, I went to Cabin Fever. I met Jack Taven. He's really good at playing pinball. He's like in the top 40 or so in the Power 100, and he has all the high scores of that place. You're going to Toronto as far as a part of your trip, right? Yes, I am. Okay. I need you to go to Cabin Fever and hang out with those guys there and girls. Robin is a fan of gin. so uh you're going and she can hold the liquor she can't I tried to have a drinking contest with her and she won um Dan Beeson is also there as well Dan's like the operator who has pinball machines there and he has pinball machines kind of all around Toronto um and he didn't think he was much of a good pinball player I looked at my videos on the plane and uh I've got I'm filming him drunk while he's drunk and he rules the universe on afm and he pretty much did that entire rule the universe bit we have to clock up five billion with one hand um so that was that was fun the last day sorry that wasn't the last day this is the last day last day i headed down to something called pinball for change and basically it's a charity run by a guy called walt morose and in the last three years they've raised about twenty thousand dollars which is quite an achievement and they hold it in different locations each time it's a it's a match play event 13 rounds and they held it a guy called mark lucci and mike lucci and it was an amazing collection i think i showed you a little video money of the place when i was there and it's got machines from all eras em sold states and dmds um i was asking advice from from bruce because pin tips is good but it's not that good if you really want to know how to play a game because it'll tell you something like oh, if you get multiball, shoot this. But it doesn't tell you how to start the game and go through that journey. So Bruce was giving me a lot of tips on that and also Jack as well. I went pretty well. I ended up coming second in the event out of, I think, close to 30 people. Awesome. And the era of games that I played the best on was EMs. And an EM that's working, an EM with one dodgy flipper, I can't play. But an EM that's like the flippers are working right, I get into good grooves and I don't know maybe I should buy an EM or something no idea which one, the only one that I played that I remember playing before is Grand Slam, which I believe our friend Marcus has so I kind of knew the rules of that, get the bases loaded but then don't hit a home run, just kind of keep on cashing the loaded bases in that's pretty much it, that's my entire trip I love what you say. That's pretty much it. It's like you've been speaking for two minutes. That was 25 minutes. Was it 25 minutes? No, it just felt like it. I'm sorry. That's all right. No, it sounds like an amazing trip. And as you said, look, I will be going to Toronto, so hopefully get to experience some of that. Kevin Fever. That's all you need to go to. Kevin Fever. Might bring Robin some gin from Australia. Yes, please let me pay for it because she shouted me many drinks. All right. I will definitely let you pay for it. So my week, I've got to tell you, was nowhere near as exciting as that. Yes. I didn't make it sound very exciting, though. By the way, everyone, I haven't slept in like two days. That's why I sound really mellow, right? No, the big exciting thing for me this week was I got to pay for my trip. So that is all absolutely locked in. I am going. Nothing's stopping me now. So that's really good. the other thing I wanted to say, a big thank you to Dr. John for bringing me back my second set of Pin Stadium you're hooked Marty, you're hooked and which machine do you think they're going on? the Hobbit obviously no Star Trek because what I want to say I've got this theory right because the first time I saw Pin Stadium was on an Aerosmith right and it just made this machine pop and a lot of people have said you don't really need pin stadiums on sterns because they're bright enough and for the most part I actually think that's true but I just want to see what difference it makes and whether it really does make it even better God I'm sounding more and more like a shill of pin stadiums you are a shill as well as organising the spooky distribution thing I talked to Scott and there's a kickback involved okay we're going to be rich this pinball business podcast a lot of money involved okay but the other Big news of the week. You ready? Yes. Big news of the week. Argonauts is returning. So Argonauts... Argonauts, my favourite little tournament in Melbourne. Your favourite tournament. So there's not really that many competitions or tournaments in Melbourne and Argonauts was one of the greats. And I think the last IFPA comp was in December last year and it went through some changes this year. So for those people that have listened to the podcast and have gone to the Argonauts before, I believe it's coming back in May, I think is when it is. There's a dialed in there now. There's a dialed in alley on location in Melbourne. We bitched about it many times. At the Golden Leaf. And there is one now. Yeah, absolutely. So go to it. You know, it's an awesome venue. So anyway, I'm just glad that Argonauts is back. So that was really good news this week. That's another show, mate. That's three shills in a row. Yeah, that's all I've got this week. I've just got shills, so start paying up, bitches. Shall we head to the mailbag? Yeah, I reckon just one bit of mail this week, and then we'll do the rest tomorrow. Okay. Shane? First one is from Shane. Hi, Shane. I know Shane. He says, been a bit rusty on the comp scene. That right there is understating it. Hasn't been in a comp for a very long time, and was the person that got me into playing comp, so there you go. he said but one thing that's always been daunting even before I eased back on tournaments was playfield multipliers I generally don't like the way modes play out with these but reckon I need to know in my head how they all slot together what would you guys recommend as a good machine for learning the concepts of playfield multipliers either by watching a tutorial or playing first hand and he said I know Game of Thrones seems to be a good one for this but what are the others what do you think that's just an open ended question because every machine executes multipliers in a different way. So you really have to name which game you want to talk about and, you know, dialed in multipliers, you know, click the SIM card and then your mode is 2X, 3X, 4X, 5X. What do you think would be the simplest to understand as far as multipliers go? But knowing, okay, Star Trek. Hit the warp ramp 10 times and you're in double scoring. Yep. But, I mean, that's a 60-second multiplier, whereas on Ghostbusters, Ghostbusters, you have to hit this stupid skill shot. Usually, that's the easiest way to do it. That lights 2x and 3x, and then you kind of whale on the targets as much as you can. I don't know. So they're all different. How do you learn multipliers when every pinball machine executes in a different way? And they're all about freaking multipliers. I was just thinking about KISS, right? You know, KISS where you get shot multipliers and then you get playfield multipliers. If you finish two songs on a... Oh, my God. So, you know what? Batman multipliers, you know, jail the villain, but then keep on going, and then you get 2X for the modes, and then you get X a shot. In a way, it's actually a really simple divide. People that understand multipliers get the high scores. People that don't, don't. Yeah. You have to learn it further. There we go. And as we know, we've talked about Star Wars enough. That's the ultimate, because you've got to place your multiplier where it needs to be. Yeah. So there's no real answer there, Shane. He sort of basically was saying he wanted to come over and play Game of Thrones. So the invitation's open. Come on over. I will show you how multiplayer's work in my very limited understanding that I've got of Game of Thrones. Cool. So that's it for now. But don't forget, if you see us come up on your feed tomorrow, 24 hours from now, it's because Iron Maiden's been released. But you probably know that already by that time. Yeah, we're going to talk for like two hours about Iron Maiden, how cool it is. We really are. But in the meantime, please go to our Facebook page at Head2Head Pinball. Twitter is at H2H Pinball. Email us head2headpinball at gmail.com or Instagram, which is head2headpinball. You know what? What might be a bit of fun? if you're hearing this right now, people write in now with all your predictions of what Iron Maiden is going to look and then we will read them out tomorrow and we will laugh at you for being wrong they've got a very small window but yes, please do it please send us lots of emails so thank you, welcome back Ryan, it's really good to have you back thank you is my speech impediment cured? yes, it is thanks Geoff to you all, he taught me how to speak English alright we'll speak to you very soon see ya bye Thank you.