Hey, what's going on pinball and welcome to a special episode of flipping out the ball podcast. Greg, it's new pin day. I like new pin day. I like new pin. I like surprise new pin days better than just normal pin days. And this was kind of a surprise in day. It's true with all the rumors that come out with all these games, a very, very limited amount of times. Are we really surprised by anything that's coming out? But Turner Pinball today has announced Yukon Yeti. It's their newest offering in their lineup at a base price of $9,999 with a little bit of an upgrade package. If you want to go ahead and add some a la carte items, we can cover that a little bit later. What we'd like to do in this episode is really just maybe take the next 10 minutes or so and just offer our first impressions of this game. If you're watching or you're listening to this podcast right now, the game's already out, right? So there'll be a link in the show notes that you can click on. It'll take you to flipping out pinball dot com where you can look at the gallery of picks. But, Greg, was Yukon Yeti something that was on your pinball radar for a new release of a game? Yeah, you know, Ken, it wasn't. I don't know if it was on anybody's, you know. Dennis Nordman game, very reminiscent of another very popular Dennis Nordman game, which I like in that sense. But something that I didn't know that we were looking for. But I think it was sort of the same thing with Black Knight. You know, when Stern, when Richie did another Black Knight. You know, I don't know if anybody was asking for it, but it went over very well because it's a classic. As you said, it is a Dennis Nordman game. And the elephant in the room here is that a lot of people will correlate this as maybe a supposed follow up to Dennis Nordman's original Whitewater. This is not branded as a Whitewater, too. It is Yukon Yeti. You're going to see some similarities in the way that the, you know, the play field is laid out. It's Dennis's design. Brad Duke is on artwork. Artwork is interesting to me because it's different approach to the artwork here. uh it's the art style is is different i we were talking about this a little bit offline i'll let you kind of offer your opinion on that because i think you hit the nail on the head what are your thoughts on on how they approach your work mr brad duke brad brad did work for them in the past for turner in the past with his ninja clips um you know brad has a very unique style from um a lot of other artists that we see um i think it has a very uh almost like if anybody remembers the the old fox i mean was it 20th century fox or was it just fox uh line of animated films you know you had like um prince of egypt and stuff that came out in the early was that the early 2000s i guess early 2000s very reminiscent of that of that style uh almost disney-esque in a way to me yeah sure um so you know it's it is a very unique offering uh very colorful but not like over the top colorful not not colors that didn't belong like i think that this this art package is very harmonious uh when you see it in the compilation you know we talk about that a lot but all the color schemes really flow very well together from play field to back glass to to cabinet art everything i i like that a lot and you know it i actually it's probably not an interesting decision it's kind of like one of the only things you could go with but that that white powder coat on there i'm not a fan of white powder coat like i i just i've not liked it on any games that it's ever been on uh but it surprisingly fits this game remarkably well like to me i don't know if anything else you would ever put on there but black normal black would just not have looked right let's do this let's go down some of the line items on this game and then if we want to discuss we can and we'll just kind of see where it goes but the base game includes now all right it's first of all it's limited to 500 games that's good i also believe that's good i'm assuming that there is i would assume that there was potentially some type of influence from the recent mad rush on rare games that may have weighed heavily on chris turner's mind when he was figuring out how many games he wanted to produce with this because if this is like a perceived follow-up to another game a very popular game is this a game that could have sold 2 000 3 000 or is he in like that sweet spot right now where that 500 units creates a driving want to kind of get the game the demand could outweigh the supply i i think it's like what we've talked before we talked about this with winchester we talked about this with beetlejuice some of these games where we're seeing this like you said this rush i think that in i think that it was smart just like with those games i don't i still don't think winchester would have sold out if winchester would have been open um i don't know if they would hit that 500 units i think that there was something to be said about limiting that game and making it feel very special so i personally don't think that chris or or turner pinball did anything wrong in that aspect i i personally don't even think that they hindered themselves because they're a very up-and-coming company, in my opinion. And I think that this game will really help lay the groundwork for them taking that next giant leap in pinball because everything with Ninja Eclipse, the games that they have built in the past, they just haven't been widely received just because it's Ninja Eclipse, I feel. I feel like they haven't had the opportunity to really have a title, have a game that really showcases their company So I think that this is that first relief But those previous games the games that they built games they got games out they are a pinball company they are manufacturing games they are bringing people games you know it not one of those things that we well we trying to build games and we're trying to do no they're they're making games and from what i know those games because we've sold some ninja eclipse those games are solid like they're well-built games so i think that even if this game could sell more than 500 units, I still think it's really good just to limit this, help drive some good publicity, good PR towards your company, sell these games, start laying that groundwork for that next game to where you're going to sell 1,000 units guaranteed. I think that's on-point analysis, especially when you look at the progression of the company. You were talking about Ninja Eclipse. It was a nice game. Yeah. They stepped up their game when they went into Merlin's Arcade. It was a more robust offering. You could see the advancement. But again, it was Merlin's Arcade. So there wasn't anything maybe that had this recognition where people were tied into these themes. Now you get into Yukon Yeti. You've got Dennis Nordman there. There's a pass there with kind of the history of how Dennis had Whitewater that came out in the 90s. And then when you add a little bit of of limited nature to it, I think all these things are now aligning to propel Turner Pinball potentially forward. And I really liked what you said with, you know, maybe they could have sold more. But to start building interest in brand loyalty, that limited nature is kind of cool. You've got a nice, unique collectible, something that's going to play well. And you know what? Without getting into the weeds, we can talk about this in another podcast. Turner Pinball, for the lack of a better term, they are innovating. because I think innovation is kind of overused, and a lot of times the definition of the word is not applied how people are speaking of it. But they have innovated some of the basics with pinball. So I'm curious to see if this sells out, how long it takes to sell out. Now, they're launching this game today, so we're a day before Texas, or two days before Texas Pinball Festival. Orders are open now. If you want to put an order in, there's a $2,000 deposit to get your game in the queue and reserves your game. You can go to flippingoutpinball.com right now. You can go ahead and you can click the link to put the deposit down, or you can email Greg or myself. My email is ken at flippinoutpinball.com. And, Greg, what's your email? Greg at flippinoutpinball.com. Yeah, just say, hey, listen, we want to put a deposit down on the game. Deposit's $2,000. The base game includes – and when I say base game, there's only one model of the game. Yeah, and it still has the powder code. It's a nicely loaded game for $10,000. correct so we'll cover some of this really quick the one edition is called legendary edition the reason i'm referring it to as the base edition is because there are add-ons that you can a la carte later down the road but that game includes the icy white powder coat that greg and i just kind of discussed the main mech in the game is this five ball avalanche lock mech and it's it's a it's a ramp on the left side of the play field that's pretty steep but it presents as stairs and it can physically hold up to five balls on each steps of these stairs going up. And then when the avalanche multiball starts, the stairs flattened, kind of like you would see in a movie with a trap door where the stairs flatten, you're sliding down and all these balls come into the play field. I think it's pretty cool because I've not seen anything like that to my recollection in pinball. And that's one of those times where it's like, hey, I can I love a physical ball lock, and I like being able to see the balls that are physically locked. So to see those balls stacked on the stairs and then watch them come through, I think it's pretty nice. I think that's a nice mech. I agree. You've got detail hand-painted playfield sculpts. There's a lot of sculpts all over the game. I noticed that right away. Yeah, it feels – I mean, you know, you've got the mountains. You've got the Yeti. You've got – I mean, you know, it's another one of those things very much like Whitewater or, you know, even something like Dune or Spooky Games to where that, you know, You don't feel that you're missing something on this play field. Where there's not a shot, then there's a nice, beautiful sculpt. There's something to pull you into that world. The game also features a removable glass frame with standard-sized tempered glass. And for those of you that aren't familiar with this, typically on any game that we're used to, for the most part, you're going into the coin box, you're unlocking this lockdown bar from the receiver, you're sliding this glass, you're removing the lockdown bar, you're sliding the glass out. this this glass is on a hinge right so the whole thing kind of goes up like you're going under the hood of a car so i think that's cool and there's lighting that's embedded within that to kind of give you that additional lighting for your gi and it's just in my opinion it's it's really well done and not to get ahead this light package is really nice like the lighting and effects on this game is absolutely beautiful you were talking about the color palette earlier and it's you know it's the whites and the different shades of blues with a touch of purple, a little bit of yellows. Like that's a very attractive. That's in my wheelhouse for a color palette. So I do like that. I'm curious to see kind of where the animations are going to be, because that wasn't something that we were able to really get a lot of. Did you see any of the animations yet? I did not. I did not. No. OK, so I assume that's that's coming down the road here. Well, at TPF, you can play the game, you'll see it. And I'm sure there'll be extended media that comes out from the company. Gameplay highlights. So you've got 12 base modes plus two wizard modes. Again, I'm sure the code will be evolving as the game is on the line, as they're getting games out. You've got that five ball avalanche ball lock that we spoke about. The wavy rapids ramp on the left side. Classic. Very classic. Classic. Very reminiscent of another game that might have a little bit of some affiliation or maybe not of that. Dual path upper play field. So you do have an upper and you got two shots from the flipper on that upper playfield I haven shot it yet but that flipper if you watch the video it does look like a fun upper play field not just a waste like it does look fun i curious about how to be incorporated upper playfields are are hit or miss for me in most cases i'm not thrilled with upper playfields they it seems like they kind of slow the game down a little bit and to your point they're not very useful so i kind of get bored and i tend not to want to go as long as they're useful i i'm good with it you know right right um because honestly like one of my i don't know i mean it really is kind of a useless playfield jaws is one of my favorite and it's kind of a useless upper playfield but it adds so much to it but i mean it's it's a little bit spacious you know what i'm saying it's not i don't know i i tend to like upper playfields a little bit i think the only like one of the upper playfields i've always really hated was uh just not a real big fan of game of thrones i don't i don't know why that's a pretty big upper playfield too it is and it seems like the biggest waste to me yeah i don't know why but like you know how he likes those big upper playfields like he does yeah they're massive upper play field i am thankful that it's not a lower play field because i don't know that i've ever met a lower play field that i like i just don't really like them no who are we talking about about monsters we were talking about that and was it you was it you that said that was your favorite lower play field no no that was in our patreon chat somebody was talking about it being their favorite and i'm like i don't i don't there's no such thing as favorite lower play but that's the thing though that's what i'm say like i guess that's my point is like yeah that's still lackluster and it probably is the best lower play field oh yeah yeah well a little bitty tiny ball i don't like when the ball size no that drives me away oh yep yep yep uh a hidden yeti ball lock is in this game trading post progression not sure what that means i'm assuming i'm assuming like you go to your trading posts so maybe you can uh trade in money or you can trade in certain things to be able to get uh let's say a pickaxe or i don't know something that helps you okay so it's obviously rule-based yeah i i would assume i would assume by the that hearing that you've got the yukon yeti centerpiece sculpt he's all the way in the top back of the playfield again another another sculpt and then finally gold rush adventure theme inspired by the klondike so the whole theme and the story behind the game is of Yukon Yeti. It's a Klondike Gold Rush pinball adventure featuring avalanches, rapids, hidden treasure, Chakoot Pass, Dawson City, and the Yukon Yeti himself. I think that the thing that I like about hearing this and what's going on with it is I feel that, you know, again, we talk about this early on when we haven't got our hands on games. It's still very early on. But I think this game looks like it shoots really fun. Nice theme. but I think it's always, you know, it's always, it's going to come down to this code. And, but I like what I'm hearing about it because I like an adventure. Like I like to collect things. I like to go on this, you know, this Klondike mission of painting for gold and running into this Yeti, like sort of thing. It's literally what you're doing, man, is you're mining gold and you're trying to strike it rich in the game. That's yeah. I like that. I like that. And you're encountering this Yeti that, uh, I would assume. It's very mischievous. He's very devious. Yeah, I like that, man. I do. And as far as I know, like, I mean, I think, you know, talking to Chris a little bit, like this, I think that this code is going to come out. I mean, it's going to be very far along. Am I correct in saying that? I wouldn't take it to a pinball show if it wasn't playable and semi-robot. I mean, nobody wants to go to a show and just be able to flip a ball around and not be able to start anything. So, yeah, I think Chris knows better than to bring the game without having you being able to get general idea of the of the experience. OK, so. So, again, revisiting the price, the game. Ninety nine. Ninety nine. If you want the upgrade package, there are extras. The upgrade package is going to include the following items. And this is bundled. OK, you're going to get anti reflected glass, which, again, reduces glare off the play field. If depending on your lighting conditions, that's usually a pretty nice upgrade. a shaker and knocker package. So you get the kind of the vibrating effect, the haptic feedback. And then you also have the physical knocker, which is in the game. I love a physical knocker. I do too, man. It's so simple, but I love a physical knocker. I don't like the digital knocker. I do not. I do not either. Not a fan. You get a premium sound upgrade with the speakers and then you get the LEDs. So the LEDs are circular. They go around the speakers and they're coded into the game. You'll also have cabinet interior art blades. So if you like those inner art blades that go from the left and the right side of the inner part of the cabinet and extend kind of the environment from the play field, that's concluded in this package. You do get a game themed dust cover. Hit or miss for a lot of people, right? I'm one that I prefer to not have a dust cover on my game because I always like to be able to see my playfields. But if you like to keep that glass free of dust when you're not playing, you roll that thing out. And let me tell you this. So I need to buy. I'm like you. I'm exactly like you. Like, I particularly have not been much of a fan of a dust cover because I like to see my games, even if it's a themed dust cover. But having cats, I've got three cats now. Little bastards are always on top of my pinball machine. And so it's just, it's cat feet prints all over, like little, little, little footprints all over all of my games. So now I'm thinking, you know what? Instead of having to bring a freaking bottle of glass cleaner every time I want to play, it'd be nice just to roll that dust cover off of there. There you go. So if you've got some pinball cats or some messy kids, perhaps, or maybe just a dusty, dusty basement. If you're a cat dad, get the dust cover. All right. Well, you're going to get it with this upgrade package. You're also going to get the premium Northern Lights topper. The toppers, for a lot of people, this is a make or break on an upgrade. It's a nice topper. The topper looks nice. It is motorized. You got a head that goes up and down It the Yeti up down left right But you also have this lighting effect that comes off the back of the topper and throws lights on that wall But it simulates and emulates the movement of the Aurora Borealis or the Northern Lights I love Northern Lights, Aurora Borealis, man. You see me on Facebook, like, putting pictures the last couple years. You'll send pictures to me and Zach in Messenger. I will buy the game for the topper. I just want to plug in the topper, have it all the time. So that's really, really cool. This whole package is going to come to you for $2,250. Okay. So if you add all those on and it's a one and done thing, you would get this whole package through flippingoutpinball.com. So the price of your game goes from $9,999 to $12,249. Plus shipping. Yeah, you're anywhere between $350 to probably $6,650, depending on if it's going to the very far west coast, especially northern west coast. So, yeah, anywhere in between there. But, you know, reach out to Ken or I if you want an exact quote. We'll get you that shipping quote if you want before you start adding items. And, listen, we say it a million times. We're not commission-based salespeople. We're pinball enthusiasts. We're hobbyists. We just want to put you in the best spot. And if this is something that you're interested in, you know, we're learning a lot about the game as well. Don't let the package fool you. The package is very nice. Those are all things that I enjoy, especially non-reflective glass anymore. But that game is still absolutely gorgeous. Look at that game, the powder coat, everything you get. I mean, you're not stripping anything truly off of it. So if you don't want to spend that extra $2,000, don't let that discourage you from the game. You're not missing too much. You're still getting a very beautiful, nice-playing game for the $10,000. So just don't let that discourage you in any way. So with today being Wednesday and the official reveal day, the game will be first playable at Texas Pinball Festival, which takes place on Friday and Saturday. So if you're at Texas Pinball Festival, jump on the game, play it. Do us a favor. If you played the game, come back into the comments. If you're watching this on YouTube or you're on our Patreon or you're on our Facebook, let us know what you thought about the game. Upload some pictures, maybe even some videos, some gameplay. Check it out. But again, the links will be in the show notes if you want to see the official launch video. If you want to see the photos, we'll link you to FlippinUpHembal.com. We're here to take the order. Greg, I'm excited for Chris Turn. On a personal note, I've always really liked Chris. Chris is one of the sweetest guys I've ever met. Yeah, man. He's just a good guy. He is. Yeah, I'm rooting for Chris personally. I'm rooting for the company. I've always got along with him very well personally. He's very professional, but he's very detail-driven. and he really is trying to go out of his way to provide a product that he believes the pinball community is asking for and and that they will enjoy yeah and this this could be the breakout hit for turner pinball and what we've seen especially with with other companies is when a company comes out maybe they're two three four games into their catalog and one hits it puts them on the radar for their previous games and you see a lot of people that want to collect all those games, especially with the limited nature with Turner Pinball, because again, you've got Merlin's Arcade and you've got Ninja Eclipse. Those were those are very limited games. But by far, I would say that this is their most robust offering that will appeal the most to the pinball, the pinball. And, you know, it's something we've seen in other companies, too. When you you know, when you talk to Chris and you see the enthusiasm behind this game, behind his company, like you said, like everything he's wanting to do, being a hobbyist. We've seen that with some of these other smaller companies. And that translates typically into a very good game and to a very good company, you know. And so it's very hard when you talk to Chris to not get behind him and this company and want to see them succeed and want to see this game succeed because they are coming at it from a place of passion and heart, which sometimes is lacking in this industry. So it's really refreshing to see that, and I think it's going to be a success for him. Yeah, he's always done a very good job of listening to feedback from the community and implementing changes when he can. But, you know, on that, let's see where the game plays out this weekend. I think it's good timing for them to have this game at Texas Pinball Festival because now you're going to be able to get some real-time feedback on the game. It's not something where the game's coming out, nobody's had a chance to play it, and you're waiting for weeks or a month and a half to where the first games come out or you've got to find it at a show. Like literally the game revealed today, you'd be playing it in 48 hours. So it's good. Again, if you're considering the game, you can email either one of us, ken at flippingoutpinball.com, greg at flippingoutpinball.com. You can go to our website, flipping out pinball.com, and you can kind of click through the gallery, see the pictures, and you can place your order there. The deposit's $2,000. If you prefer for us to kind of transact that for you, we're happy to do it. Easy enough for us to do so. And I do enjoy talking to everybody. And people are pumped up about getting new games, man. So, you know, when people are calling excited, it's a lot better when they're calling and they're not. So I'll take that. You got anything else to add before we wrap this one up? No, you summed it up perfectly. no you hey expert analysis greg bone is like the expert of pinball and i'm fortunate to have him here as my co-host here uh that's that's reaching i appreciate it but no i love it i love talking pinball with you man first thing in the morning we're up early we're talking a new game and it's going to be coming out here it's actually not right now if you're listening to this so we appreciate it man let's go you ready let's hop the bone caffeine can let's get it reveal day Whatever you do, don't forget to take some time out of your day and play some pinball. So long, everybody.