It looks good in there so far. Roger. DCS arm switches on. Okay, you're good. Landing lock arm switches on. Here comes the throttle. Second breaker is in. Roger. We have separation. We're good. Inboard and outboard, you're on. Coming forward with the side stick. Looks good. Roger. I've got a blowout. Number three. Pitch to zero. Pitch is out. We can't hold out for two. We're in channel four. We're on track for the electric. Emergency. Flight column, I can't hold it. She's breaking up. She's breaking up. Steve Austin, astronaut. A man barely alive. Gentlemen, we can rebuild him. We have the technology. We have the capability to make the world's first bionic man. Steve Austin will be that man Better than he was before Better Stronger Faster Hello and welcome to another episode of the Classic Pinball Podcast. My name is George. I'm joined by my co-host Dave, the guy who crossed a duck with mistletoe and got a Christmas quacker. Dr. Dave. Hello, Dave. Hello, George. Well, I could do the classic ho, ho, ho. Really quacks me up what you just said there. Oh, gee. Isn't that painful? That's as painful as what you just said. Ah! Oh! I didn't see that one coming. I am just... Okay. We're going to get right into it, folks. Dave has a $6 million man that he's working on for a customer. First question I have is, is this the $6 million man with the overfusing? Not that I'm aware of, George. And what is this overfusing you're referring to? Wasn't it the $6 million man that you said to me, guess the fuse value? Oh, yeah. No, that was a different customer with $6 million man. Oh, so this is a different one. Oh, that's... I've been coming to a lot of these lately. $6 million men? Yeah, because what... Well, actually, they're men. That's right, $6 million men. Because three customers, three different customers, what happens typically, all of a sudden, just how this realm works, all of a sudden, it'll send me, like, all the same title or all the same generation of a game at once, and then that goes away. Then a different thing comes in. So right now, I'm getting a deluge of $6 million men for some reason. It's weird. Even more important, we have not done a Bally game since April yeah we're due well we did I mean if you count El Snorro well it is a Bally game people listen to that where I thought it was going to be a real clunker it's not I mean given what we had to work with it's really not all that bad yeah we made it we polished a turd George yeah I guess it can be It left some bull. It left some bull behind. Yeah. Okay. So today, as you figured out, we're going to do Six Million Dollar Man, 1978, designed by Jim Patla. And believe it or not, the El Snorro we just talked about, El Toro, was designed by Jim Patla. Yeah. He's done a lot. Well, I took some highlights. Also, recently, we talked about the Fiberglass Kiss. He did that game. Mm-hmm. He also did Centaur, Playboy, Mata Hari, quite a few. I mean, there's a lot more than that. But he's done quite a few Bally games back in the day. And he signed his name on the back class, too, a lot of times. Okay. This kind of falls in line with the strategy by Bally in the late 70s going with known, I guess, IPs. you had Elton John, Evil Knievel which we've done, Dolly Parton hey somebody in New Robert Englunds who's got a Dolly Parton wants to have us over, we'd love to go do a show Bobby Orr which we've done before and Harlem Globetrotters still our number one podcast is that incredible? It is incredible and it's by a long shot too I mean it's not even tight and it's weird because that game a couple years back, maybe 10-15 years ago didn't garner a lot of maybe get $150 for that game. No one really cared for that game that much. It's becoming more and more popular as the years go on because it has a lot of good features in that game. It's the regular-sized version of a Paragon. I played mine several times this week. It's a lot of fun. Let's get into the layout of this game. Definitely unique, I think, for a ballet game. You could probably talk a little bit more to that. the top of the play field has a saucer with two lanes that are probably what on an angle of 30 degrees yeah so and they're important in this game you've got uh three uh bumpers i believe you've got two spinners which is great you've got a five bank drop target assembly and you have i believe we talked about this briefly in one of our previous episodes those small rectangular targets on the left hand side you can't i've never seen them for sale anywhere and i think i told you that i bought the six million dollar play field because i needed one yeah and i needed one not for a six million dollar man i needed it for kings of steel do you know of any other games because that's the center target on kings of steel so you can imagine that would get whacked a million times and that it would be broken. It's that big? It's a big square thing in King's Estee? Oh, it's about an inch and a half, two inches across. It's not your standard round target. Right. But it's the same as $6,000 a minute because it's a big square thing. Same exact target. Do you know any other games from Valley that had that target in it? I know Stern Nineball has that target in it. It has one target like that. Otherwise, no. None of my other games have it. I couldn't really think of... No. Kind of weird, right? Why would they do that for? yeah yeah take up more space maybe well that's that's it yeah that's exactly it but it's you know why wouldn't you put five of them there and just just three because you need 50 000 is the number they wanted so there's three so why couldn't it be all five five zero zero zero zero instead of using the two lanes up top well you use the two lanes up top for that i don't know okay we're kind of getting ahead of ourselves anyway so it's so that's kind of the general layout of the game um i went out and watched a couple of videos uh i'm excited to play yours it's been a while i don't recall seeing one of these even at a show recently yeah a long time since i played one yeah they're usually not around that much yeah i've never played this at a at a pizza place years ago they had this at evil well i played it too back in the day yeah but now since then and the The unique thing, which everybody probably already knows, it's got six targets. No. Displays. When I say targets, six displays. Sorry. And I was thinking ahead of myself, I know you don't want to talk about this. I wasn't going to talk about this because everybody else is talking about this. Okay. You know what I'm going to talk about, right? James Bond? Scooby-Doo. Oh, that one. Oh, the latest thing. So wait, so wait. So don't trash on it yet. I thought this was creative. So we talked about six displays on Six Million Dollar Man. They're going to have five displays. Okay, over the five characters. Go to the head of the class. Here's the really weird thing about that game, and it should appeal to you. I'm definitely interested in playing it. It's a wide body. So we haven't seen a wide body in the pinball world, I guess, since Wizard of Oz? well jersey jack's always his wide body it's all they do oh everything they do is right so you know better than i um so new wide body from spooky but instead of the plunger being all the way to the right yeah they offset it from the right more towards the center so it plays more like a standard pinball. Now you've got to ask yourself, okay, so think of a standard pinball, overlay it on a wide body, and that's where the plunger's going to be. Now you've got that space to the right of another two inches, maybe? Guess what they're putting there? No idea. I called it the Peter Meter, but it's called the Bravery Meter. Something to do, risk, reward in this new game. Do I get to use my phone to QR code to do it? I don't know. I really like that. And then they've got, I think they've got, when you get to the bravest moment or something, Scooby-Doo pops up out of the play field in a garbage can. It's kind of weird. Like Oscar the Grouch. That's what it kind of looked like. Yeah, that's what Oscar did. I haven't really seen much of the game. It's kind of, the things that struck me were, it's a wide body, but it's not a wide body. it's got that weird cockamamie meter thing that i just talked about and it's a wide body with lots of ramps and crap well i don't care about it in a van they want to do a turtle's van but they didn't want to do a turtle's room the balls coming out of it like that they don't want to copy it so they just did a van there that doesn't have any balls coming out of it that's what i've heard i did a little research george so you were mildly interested yeah i just i said you know it came up my youtube feed it's like all right i'll i'll buy it i'll take a little brief review and see what this guy's going to say about it. So he went over the whole thing and said, okay, you know, I'll, I'll play it once. Try it at some point. Probably next season when we go to a pinball shop. Do you want to talk about gameplay here? Do you want to wait until we go down in the basement? We can, we can wait. Is there anything you want to talk about the game before I move into some other topic areas. Yeah, so let's talk a little bit about the history of this game. I, uh... Oh, we didn't... First, I'm gonna stop you, sorry. Yeah. And I gotta stop doing that. You don't understand why. Trying. It's hard. It was over 10,000 units for this game. That's pretty good. Yeah. So you were gonna say? And 10,000 for a reason. They had, uh, they had some tricks up their sleeve, Bal. They had some... They, uh... With corporations like this, they want to serve multiple agendas. So what they did, they wanted to capture the magic of Dave Christensen and Greg Mayak, again, just like they did on, what games did they do? They did Wizard and some other games, Captain Fantastic. So, and Bally was transferring to seven-digit displays at the time. So they were going to go there. They had so many six-digit displays in inventory just taken out of space, but they had to go to seven-digit. So it's like, let's make $6 million man. We'll make it a six-player game, and we'll just sell the crap out of it and get rid of all these displays. Clear out the warehouse. Clear out the warehouse. The production was over 10,000. It would have used up over 20,000 six-digit score displays for player five and six. Valley's first production run with seven digits was 1980's Skateball. That was the first one? Yep. I didn't know that. Yeah. 17 pinball games after $6 million man. 17 pinball machines after 6 million. That's amazing. 78 to 80. That's true? Yeah. 17 games after. Yep. And this run, they use the 44 bulbs and the sockets. You kind of twist and turn, put them in there, you know, those kind of brass bayonet base. And they want to try to do something. I got to interrupt. So the game you're working on right now has bayonets in it. Yeah. Your typical bayonets in the 70s. Okay. Yep. So brass was starting to, you know, I guess inflation was coming in the 70s and brass was starting to get expensive and they tried to save a penny here, a penny there times millions of sockets. So they tried, this first game they tried for a prototype was this game and a couple of prototype units to use the wedge sockets the 555 type, but they actually only had a 444 so they tried using that in a test game and it worked out really well and they were electrically identical except for the base and they ran a pilot run of 100 games with this and they ordered a whole bunch of these 555 type twist and turn things. You just push them in and twist and turn. And the edges of the socket that the people in the factory, they were almost cutting their hands because it was so sharp because they got the really cheapy stuff. So then along the line, GE, General Electric, came up with an alternative of the 555 bulb, claiming less expensive manufacturer, half a penny, but... This is when General Electric actually made things... Made bulbs here in America. American made. Right. Right. So, when the game started coming out, they ordered cheaper sockets, and I think the manufacturer and the manager there, he would... Let's see. I'm just reading a little more here. That was the razor blade part. Oh, they noticed the switched lamps. so the feature lamps were failing rapidly on games in the showroom with the new 5.5s, 5.5 bulbs. They were pulsed frequently in a track mode, were dying less than a month. Distributors were calling, complaining, failure rate of 5.5 was very high, and they ran a test game with the 5.5, it was a 4.4. And the 5.5 were inherently defective. They ran through five or different runs, three or four productions, before they finally corrected the problems. That's why you will see... So how many of these games went out with the 555s versus the 44s? 44s, that was just a prototype. Only like 100 games were made. Oh, okay. Yeah, the 555s, that was a standard. But GE started making these bulbs, the 555s. It was brand new for this time frame. It was a brand new production, brand new way of manufacturing them. And that's why you will see a different bead color in the 555s. Some of them are green, some of them are blue. Some are yellow. Right. They did that on purpose. that bead color designated the batch so we could tell the runs apart. So which ones are the bad ones? Don't know. They don't say that. The ones that die quick. Because I got a pile of them and I always wondered why the colors were different. Now you know the rest of the story. Okay. And this guy that's right up here, I think Alan, Alan Reitzman, engineering lab supervisor from Ballet from 7783, I believe he's the one that said, yeah, these 555 bulbs were way better and the sockets were way better than those those unreliable 44 bulbs and sockets, I beg to differ. 30, 40 years later, the 555s are crap compared to the 44s. They're a way better bulb and a way better socket because the 555 bulbs and the little contact points and it goes into the socket that you twist and turn, they're different metals. You know how you put two different metals? They fuse together. Nope. And you apply an electric char to two different metals. you get a reaction. It's like a battery. You start to get corrosion. So they corrode after a time. So they get this little green fuzz on them. The old style didn't really get well not inherently didn't get the corrosion. They got a little bit of that but not as bad as the 555s because 555s had a very small surface area. So a little corrosion goes a long way to make that bulb die versus you get a little longer time with a 444 a little corrosion it can deal with it. A lot of people think that these 555 bulbs are dead. They just don't light them anymore so they take them and throw them away. You can actually take them out, take a small file, file off the corrosion on both sides of the socket and the bulb, put it back in and you're back up and running again on the 555 bulbs. I'm trying to think while you're telling me all this, how many of my games are 555s but... 1980 and later. So Escape Ball and later. Escape Ball, Centaur, Paragon? No. Nope, not Paragon. Not Embryon? Embryon, yeah, Embryon, 81. That would have them. Okay. I haven't replaced bulbs in any of these, but they're not left on for 90 hours a day. Right. Okay, interesting. Anything else you want to talk about before we go and stand in front of the machine and we can go through the rules? It'll be easier. I've got the cheat sheet in front of me, but I always like being in front of the game. Sure. Let me just take a look at the Because I got a list I got a whole list of stuff to talk about Okay good I've got some letters I got all kinds of stuff The project date was August of 77 And released in October of 78 And abbreviation is SMDM It's almost like straight down the middle SDM Weird Okay One thing we didn't mention As far as features on this game The center post Yeah Which means the flippers Which is like Bobby Earl Power Play. Exactly. But I think that's the only two games that Bally did it, right? Pretty much? It's got to be an EM that had it. Probably EM. But the only games that are in certain... None of my other games have it. I mean, the only other two that I think with the saves are Medusa and... What's the other one with a ball save on it? Don't have them in front of me. That's the only one I had. something about they said a dark green playfield version of Cereal Lumber okay I don't know what they're talking about me what's up doc what's cooking what's up doc oh you're looking for bugs bunny bunting duck is gonna hunting just to get a rabbit skin but now the rabbit's gonna get what's up doc what's cooking hey look out stop I'm gonna fight someone with an old shotgun. Hey, what's up, doc? So, George, this week we had an interesting repair on a 1965 Gottlieb Ice Review. What happened was this customer called, left flipper not working, and he tried repairing it, tried attempting to do it. He did a little black tape thing on the cabinet switch. so I looked inside there and yeah, the cabinet switch is actually on these games from the 60s from Gottlieb were actually on the plate field, not on the cabinet. There's a little lever there that the cabinet switch hits and makes that switch go for the flippers. So I replaced both of those. Those were all nice and new. And then I noticed the flippers themselves needed some work because they were all elongated out. The fiber flipper links were all elongated out. One of them on the levers there had a tie wrap holding it on. The other one had, I think, a mechanic from way back when with a pair of pliers and a blowtorch kind of mechanic. He put a long bolt and a screw on there, a couple screws, and it was all loosey-goosey. It was no good. Really, really weak flipper on that side. So no flipper on the left, weak flipper on the right. So it had a bunch of gauntlet parts on me for the fiber flipper link and for both sides. So I had that covered, and of course the coil sleeves and so forth. The coils were still good. but I definitely needed something for the right flipper lever because I realized that was missing its little mounting tab so I'm thinking, well, what did I have on me? well, I'm going to work on an Elvis game he had too, a Stern Elvis I had some WPC parts and Stern parts and again, I had plunger links on hand for each flipper but not the levers, so I got to do something with this thing so I thought about it for a bit, and while I didn't have the Gottlieb part like I said, I did have all this WPC stuff and perhaps, I don't know, perhaps I could MacGyver some sort of solution. You know who MacGyver is, George. That guy from the 80s. The guy who could fix anything with a paper clip and a wad of chewing gum or whatever else he had in his pocket. You know. Yeah, that guy. So, the fix was to widen out the Gottlieb plunger link hole to accommodate a WPC metal bushing, secure it all together, just like WPC assembly is, with an Allen screw and an acorn nut on there. You know, I think it has a nylon thing in it to make it lock in, a locking nut, and put it all back together. It worked perfectly. So, customer in game doing fine now. uh his gorgar flippers i'm gonna read it to you i gotta bring it up so give me a sec i heard they're changing the word male to female george this email came from a listener we've talked about before scott who lives up in the rochester new york area he owns a gorgar and he wrote to us we also know scott from uh pinbrew fest out in ohio you helped him actually load this gorgar into his car oh yeah Okay. So I'm liking the new tech part of the podcast. Two thumbs up. I have a question for the doctor. From the first ever tech segment of the podcast. Okay. Pinball Life. Williams Complete Flipper Assembly C8230 states that it's for Williams games from February 1980 to August of 83. My Williams Gorgar machine has a start of manufacture of 12, 1979. So December of 79. Will this work on my Gorgar machine? And your answer is? My answer was on that one, yes, but there's a better version. You use the WPC version. It's better than using that one. So go jump a generation. Now, is this the one that you've recommended for Phoenix? Yep, all of them. I don't use the one that they recommend, the 1980 version, like the Black Knight version. I recommend going forward to the WPC 1990 style. So for Phoenix, this is something that people are requesting. Are there other games in that genre that would use the same upgrade? Yeah, all of them. Like, I mean, is there a lot? Yeah, a lot. Any early solid state Williams, like World Cup, you know, hot tip, whatever you got. Okay. Yeah. Okay. You'll understand why. Pocorino. Okay. So you're good with that one? Mm-hmm. Okay. I got another one. I got another one. Now this one, forgive me, I don't know where Todd lives, but do you know... Is it Todd Tucky? No, it's not Todd Tucky, but does that last name look familiar to you? Don't say it. Bazinga. He'll know who he is. It's not Todd Bazinga. No, I don't know him. Okay. So I'm going to read, because if I read the first one first, we might not get to the second one. We're going to throw things? You might. Okay. It took me a little bit, but I'm going to read the second. I had my reply to him, but you'll understand the context when I read this. So he says, thanks, George. Thanks for getting back to me. I like that you guys take a different approach and aren't focused on pinball news like so many others. All right. The banter between the two of you is entertaining for sure. I think that repairing these older machines is such a part of owning them that many find that interesting. We certainly agree. Dave is such an insane genius. Well, okay. I would have eliminated that. You just made his head. you know how the Grinch's heart grew two sizes? I just watched his head grow two sizes. I hit the insane part out. No, just kidding. No, no, that's right. With these things, it is such a valuable archive of knowledge that it's really nice to hear his tips and tricks, odd things he's run into, and how he's fixed them, common issues with a particular game, how certain things panned out. What a run-on sentence. For example, replacing original boards with rotten dog boards etc. I think it'd be great to let him get a bit deeper. So that goes to my comment of I need to be quiet but I try He needs to understand that I can Yay you need to be quiet let dr dave talk shut up look put your blinker on george i thought of this one for a while look being the producer and the director of this show for good or bad or otherwise i gotta keep things moving along i can't just let dave you know go off because you'll get one topic for like 20 minutes So understand why I do that. But you're not incorrect. I need to be a little bit more polite about it. Also, just going over a game, describing how it works and what the rules are, how you guys like it are all entertaining and informative. Well, that's part of the show. Maybe even reviewing or talking about a new replacement part or board for certain machine or set of machines would be interesting too. Well, you just kind of did that. Yeah. Okay. Could also do things like talk about a certain technique or something that he uses for repairing. An example, I really liked the episode about Stargazer. Very informative and had some really interesting stuff about the replacement board with the Arduino and all that there. Anyhow, love the show. Also, an oddity I've noticed, Dave says your first name a lot. Ha ha. I didn't get that. Yeah, I do. I do say, I do, I do that on purpose. So are we going to start a new drinking game, the George game? Every time you say George, you've got to take a drink? Audience could do that, sure. Okay, so that's a new game. So that was Todd's reply. It's a technique, folks. That was Todd's reply to me. Now, here's the original email. Hi. Strap in. Hi, new listener here. Love the show. Would love more information about the games and more tech tips and tricks. Maybe info about part availability, sources, common issues, rules, etc. Definitely like when Dave talks about what he's done to a recent restoration or his tech travels. Okay, we know that. Seems like you do just touch on some of those things. I know what that means. Yeah, I always thought you kind of went in depth, but, you know, you can only do so much. I mean, it's not like we're doing video. Theater of the mind is not an easy thing to pull off. Not an easy thing to pull off, especially going from memory, and I see a lot of customers and so forth. I take notes, but it's like I'm not. Look, I've been taking notes. I didn't do that at first. I thought about that as well. If I didn't take notes, I wouldn't have a show because I couldn't remember everything. So, look, you take the good with the bad. But I've taken your, but here comes the zinger. Okay, zinger's coming. Honestly, hearing you guys play the game over a podcast doesn't do much for the listener either. Well, according to him. Right, but understand why, Todd. I put it at the end of the show. I don't lead with it. So if you're tired, shut it off. If you're tired. Are you tired? Take a nap. Are you tired? Can you not sleep? Counting sheep doesn't work for you? Well, listen to the Classic Pinball Podcast. So I've actually heard from other people like PJ and other friends of mine listen to the show. And they like that, the theater of the mind. Because you know what? they know, if you know the pinball machine and you know the sound somewhere, you can actually see it happening. But I'm not done. Here comes, this is the line. This is the line. I really want to come away feeling like I learned something, but a lot of times I don't. Perhaps this is not the show for you. Now do you understand why I didn't lead with it? Todd. Todd, you're a brave man. Maybe, yeah, on the bravery meter. Yeah, you're right there and brave. At least you're one who has emailed us, I thank you. No, I think you give some good suggestions. But until you sit in this seat, and you're more than welcome to come on and have a little fun with us, because this isn't an easy thing to do. Have you heard of the Pinball Podcast? Do you come away learning things from them all the time, too? not a long time. Well, I mean, you listen to Bruce and Ron. Bruce has got a lot of experience, so he's fun to listen to. But for me, most of it goes over my head. I listen, but he could be repairing something, and I'm like, okay, I have no idea what that looks like, so I don't know how to repair it. But it's okay. I'll throw some tech stuff out there, but some people that aren't into the tech stuff, their eyes will glaze over. I just keep going on and nauseating about different things. some people like you maybe, Todd, will say, oh, it was great, great, great. But other people will say, okay, get to some other stuff. Get to the funny. Get to this. So, you know. It's a tough balance. You'll get a balance. It's a balance. It's a tough balance. Okay. Those are the emails. Email address is theclassicpinballpodcast, numeral one, at gmail.com. I've got a list. do you want you can stop me at any time and say let's talk a little bit more about it if you want to just keep moving just don't say anything okay okay i've been some of this stuff is like a month and a half old so i don't know when it happened but it's been on the list i put it all together and i said you know what i don't want this list hanging around anymore so here we go did you know that during, I believe it was Freeplay Florida, friend of show and friend of yours and mine, Eric Stone, had a machine crash during the tournament. Did he have a meltdown? I didn't see it, but I have to imagine that there were some very choice words said. Oh, sure. Oh, he probably... I think Eric is the McEnroe of... That's a very good way of putting it. You've got to be kidding me. You can't be serious. Yeah, and inject all the four letters in there. Okay, so you had, at one point in time, showed interest in a Big Lebowski. Well, I heard that that machine has a propensity to hard crash at a moment's notice. Hence, what crashed on... Hard crash. Just somebody was talking about it, saying, yeah, I'm playing Big Lebowski. Then all of a sudden, done. Wow. Complete blank. Nothing. So, Virginia Pinheads. Sons are moving to Virginia. I'm going to be in Virginia. Putting the word out. I can't find any place to play. If it's your house or some barcade, send us a Gmail. The Classic Pinball, numeral one at gmail.com. Okay. Actually, for Todd, I might have said this before, but Todd has a learning segment part for you. Virginia is next to Maryland and Virgin Mary Virginia and Maryland that's where they came to those names there's your tip stop stop you're gonna you're gonna kick that horse again here you go um I wanted to talk about animals for a minute now the reason I want to is because we've done this bird man thing right so part of that I don't know Grant was telling me oh I know it was it was the birds you know opening up the garbage can lid right he said he gets possums on the roof of his house and that he trapped the possum and took it to the local forest or green space now i don't think i would have the same approach with that possum no i don't have that approach with anything that's on my roof. I think George had a shovel and bad possum, bad boy. Yeah, he got something a little bit better than that. But it made me think of the roof... Have you heard the parrot man, my next door neighbor? No. Oh, this is a good one. No. I happen to look out the window and I see my next door neighbor looking at the roof of my house. And I'm like, what the hell is he doing on my front lawn? So I go outside, I go, hey, parrot man, what's going on? He looks up on the roof and he goes, my parrot got away. He goes, I'm going to go next door and go get a ladder. I go, you're going to do no such thing. You're not going up on my roof. It was literally like 15 seconds later, there's a 35 acre patch of land behind my neighbor's house. And the parrot takes off like a bee for that forest. And he's chasing the parrot going, hey, Mr. Parrot, come back, Mr. Parrot. I hear him in the woods for the next hour trying to coax the parrot out of a tree. That sounds like fun, George. Worse. He invited me over. I forgot this part. He invited Jance and I over one day, you know, get to know the neighbors. So the parrot comes out. And I know he loved this freaking parrot. He's got the parrot on his shoulder. Did he do swear words? No, no. The parrot's on his shoulder, right? And he begins to feed the parrot sunflower seeds with his mouth. Okay. I'm like, I'm like, that's really weird. Then the parrot, the parrot proceeds to take a gigantic dump on his shoulder. On his shoulder. Needless to say, we were not very close as a result of those two episodes. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. Do you want to hear about something Christmassy? We haven't really done anything. This is kind of a Christmas show. Okay. Have you heard the stories about people who get their Christmas trees in their house and then find animals in the Christmas tree? Heard about that. Okay. Well, here we go, Grant. We need confirmation. The one I don't believe. A woman had a plastic tree in her house, and she found a koala bear in her tree. That sounds a little bit made up on that one. This other one doesn't. People get their tree in their house, and they're setting it up, and what slithers out but a 10-foot python? Is it an Amazon tree? Well, first off, where do they get their Christmas trees? Yeah. Why would a python be in a tree? That makes no sense. I'm guessing there's pythons in our tree. Is this the Garden of Eden? I don't... I would scare the... Right? That thing staring out and going... And then people are saying in New Jersey, oh yeah, we've had pods of praying mantises in our trees. That's where they eat bugs. Right, but how many are in that pod? how many launch if they actually grow? No. A thousand. So imagine if you got that tree at Christmas time, you don't see the thing, it's in there, and then all of a sudden all these things start jumping around your house. And I think it's bad luck to kill a praying mantis. But that wouldn't stop me. So I'm done with my animal segment. I had all these saved up. That's why, well, another little factoid, a biblical factoid says, do not bring a tree into your house. Maybe that's the reason, because you get animals coming in your house. Okay, so I have another animal-related story, sort of. This one's got to do with your friend Scott. Explain to me what a French spider chip is for a Gottlieb System 1. That would be, that's a spider chip. That's multiple. Well, what does a spider chip do? It looks like a spider. No kidding. But it's not poisonous, George, so don't worry. What does the spider chip do? Fail. Often. That's what it says. So is it French because they're the only people who have supply of these chips? Probably. Rock Roll Manufacturing must have sourced them from French manufacturer, and they only made a certain amount of them. They don't make them anymore. Do you have any? No, I don't need that because I just throw that freaking board out. Oh, okay. So there you go. there's something that maybe you didn't know before. System one boards. Am I going to keep doing that and kind of flog the horse as well? You could. You could be a kicker a couple times. It's still moving. You can cook it. Okay. On to some valley news. Did you happen to see at Pinsonati, which is the most recent show, the spiked centaur? No. It had actual spikes where the kind of pseudo-spikes are in the paint job, they actually put spikes all over that machine. They put pink and green hair on the girl riding the back of the bike, too? No, I don't know that, but it raises this question. How do you move that thing? Carefully. Carefully. Why do I do this to myself? Why? Okay. We're going to keep going. why isn't there a Christmas game? because no one think oh I heard this one and I don't think it's a bad idea you're not thinking why isn't there a Christmas game? I guess you'd have to have a Hanukkah game and a Kwanzaa game no no no stop that's not the reason so I'm going to come up with two I'm only coming up with one that I heard and I don't think it's a bad idea do you think they would He probably wouldn't agree to it. But do you think there would ever be a National Lampoon Christmas Vacation pin? Yeah, they could probably do that. Okay, I was going to take one more. I thought two more. How about the Will Ferrell one with Elf? Yeah, they probably could do that. But the only thing I can think of with Santa Claus on it is the Marilyn Monroe game, Taxi. Right. Is that the only? You know why? Do you see Santa Claus on anything else? Because it's so seasonal, it's like you just think about Santa Claus. But there's people who love Christmas, and they would buy a Christmas game. To play it in July? Yes. I don't get it. No? Okay, we'll move on. I think you've got a very small audience now. Move on. Move on. There's a reason why. Move on. Are you prepared? No. No, I'm not at all. I asked you to prepare a list. Oh, that list. No, we're not going to do it now. Okay. But did you prepare it? Yes. Okay, good. We'll come to that. Okay. I'm going, did you see this on Pinside? The Color Classic displays for Old Bally SS games. Color Classic? What does that mean, Color Classic? I'll show it to you later. Like different blue and green? No. Think of a, each digit being like a screen. I don't know what the technology is, but you could change the fonts electronically. I don't know why this guy. So think of the craziest fonts in the world. Think of as if you were crafting a letter on Word. With all the different kinds of fonts and crazy things. Like the one that reminded me of, you got that Paragon Playfield sitting over there. What is it? Playfield Classic, what's their name? Classic Pinball something. Right. Well, think of their weird lettering. So you could have that weird lettering, if you wanted, in numbers on your display. I don't know why this person's developing this thing. I'll show it to you later. It's kind of weird. We'll come back to it. Nope, we're not going to do that. You probably don't want to talk about Metallica. Oh, I got one for you. Classic playthrough reproduction. That's the one. That's it. Did you ever see this game? 1984. Flashman? No. Who made that? I wrote it down. Sportmatic S.A. of Barcelona, Spain. Is it the guy with the raincoat on the front and the back glass? No. Called Flashman? No. I'll pull it up right now. Hold on. I'm not going to pull it out. IPDB Flashman. I thought it was a pretty cool... I thought it was pretty cool, but I don't think it would fly in today's world. Okay, so that's my list of... I got that, but you don't want to talk about that. We talked about that. We talked about that. We didn't talk about that, but we can talk about that later. Okay. You got it? No. That's not it. No, it's not. What, my list? No, the Flashman. I thought you were looking at that. Oh, no, no. I was going to look up... Who's the guy that died recently? The Italian guy who's always into weird pinball things. He always was. Mussolini? No, that's not a pinball guy. That's not a good guy for Italy. You know the guy. He did that pinball circus thing. You know pinball circus? That 3D thing? Hold on, I'll find out exactly. Oh, Python. Python Anghelo. Yeah, Python Anghelo. Python Anghelo Python? Python Anghelo. That's the one. I'm thinking of Pythons. in trees I don't think he was ever in a tree no he wasn't he might have been but his face was on a python in one of his games so what about python angela he'd be the guy that would make that flash man with the jacket to open up he'd be the kind of guy that would make that game because he was always into that you know weird stuff and you know this because I watched an interview with him it's the Yoko Ono Christmas album with all your holiday favorites featuring Holly Jolly Christmas Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer Frosty the Snowman and many, many more. So, George, it is Christmas time after all, and we're starting to hear some Christmas songs out there, out and about, and there's some good older ones, And then there's some really hard on the ears, newer ones. You're going after my job. Yeah, I am. I would do it all, George. I usually do this. That's true. So you're going to make me sit here and wonder what the heck you're going to do. We're going to do a little role reversal, George. We are. How'd that sound? Okay, so what are we role reversing? All right, so we're going to start out with, because I'd rather start out with the real stinkers of Christmas songs that everyone cringes and you cannot rinse them out of your fucking head. So I have to give you my opinion? Yeah. I'm going to see what you think. So I think we should start with a wonderful one by Lizzo. Because everyone, when you think Christmas, you think Lizzo. You know? I know I do. You know? You know, she's jolly like Saint Nick, right? You know? Forgive me. I just don't get it. You don't get Lizzo? None! She's a very proud woman, and she's proud of being unhealthy. There's nothing wrong with that. You should take, you know, there's pride in that. No? You play me the song. Okay. Let's go. Let's see. Let's go a little Lizzo. I'm guessing this is not in the... Hold on. Lizzo's coming up. As soon as YouTube likes to play a little ad here. We'll get rid of the ad. And then the... There we go. I can cut it up. Here's some Lizzo. It's Christmas time for Lizzo. Never cared for jingle bells or picking out a tree. Yep. I would rather be in my nails than watch some bad TV. Oh, it sucks. Shut up She's a good voice isn't she Stop Stop I'm going to break the speaker Stop it Okay You don't like that one No That was nice Alright how about this How about this one Is that new How about this one New Kids on the Block Christmas Right Is this Donnie Wahlberg? Yeah. Those guys? Yeah. There's a whole album full of this crap. Shut up. All right? Stop. Okay, so that's pretty bad. Stop. So bad. All right. You're going to play me something I like? No. No, you're going to do what I do to you. And how about this? Yeah, I'm going to torture you, George. How about this one that everyone can't stand? I know I can't stand it. Let's see if I can go fast forward here. How about this one? Oh, this is the Feed the Squirrels song. Yeah, Feed the Squirrels. Feed the squirrels. Do they know it's Christmas time? Oh. That this music stops? Okay, I will. I haven't heard that one yet this year. Oh, you're going to. I hope I don't hear it again. All right, how about this one? How about this wonderful ditty? I love this song. Isn't this great? Who's this? Paul McCartney. It's a wonderful Christmas time. Doesn't that sound good? I like that. Stop it. That's the best part of the song. Wait, there's a best part of the song? That part. There's no best part of the song. It all sucks. No, you don't like that? It's all junk. You don't like electronics? I like that. I can't stand that junk. Okay, so. That is junk. So we're batting the thousand here. Are you going to play me something I actually might have some respect for? Yeah, let's see. How about, well, let me think here. so you know everybody's tuning out you gotta play something that you know puts people back in the festive mood those were those were pretty bad those are pretty bad so let's see if we get someone back in the back in the saddle here let's see let's try a little uh let's get back in the groove here uh with uh let's see are you gonna play me your favorite uh hold on i'm not familiar with that what's that the crickets that's the crickets the crickets yes those are the songs of today and a couple years ago actually from the 70s uh you know the wonderful christmas time was paul mccartney aka billy shears you know billy shears wrote that one and lizzo christmas do kids in the block you know not really uh stuff you can't get out of your head we're going to rinse out all that crappy music we just heard we're going to sing we're going to have songs here i'm going to put them on the thing uh from yesteryear you know before current clown world we find ourselves in you know when the chrome was thick the woman was straight these the songs that we would play. You know, you had things like this going on. You know. Ah, that's a lot better. There we go. There. Now it's better. Oh, I like this song. Ah, the chroma stick. Oh, I thought it was enough. Oh, no. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. That opening is for a Christmas song, too. No. Yes, the We Are Santa's Elves. Oh, you know what they took? They lifted that. They lifted that from them. No. Yeah, this is actually a real song, Mr. Sandman. So they took that and they put their own voice in it. Yeah, We Are Santa's Elves. Yeah, no wonder people... That's on tonight. Great. Right? Is that Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer? That's the one with the Land of Misfit toys and what's-his-face? Yukon Cornelius and... Oh, come on. I know, I know. You know, Yukon Cornelius, you know, he was freaking, he was armed. He had a gun. He had a knife. He had, the guy was ready. He was excellent. He's excellent. He's ready to go. Okay. He's my kind of guy. Point me to the next one. All right, to the next one. We are Santa's elves. No, it's not Santa's elves. Hear, hear, hear, hear. Not really that, but it's close. Okay. So then we have another goodie from back that's the good stuff. What is that, Marie? The gas station. Yes, the gas station. So you go to the gas station back in the 70s, and they give you this Firestone Christmas album. I think with a fill-up, you get a free album. So you get things like... Now, do you own this album? I do own this album. I own this album. I own a couple of them, actually, from back in the day. They're from the 60s. And we used to play them all the time like this. 1967. People like Tony Bennett. I think Tony Bennett sings this one. You better watch out. It's Tony Bennett. You better not cry. See? Way better. You better not pout. I'm telling you what. Hey. I got my smoking jacket on. You need that. I'm drinking a Manhattan. Excellent. So are they on that album, sure. And then you have things like this one here. You know? So that's another Firestone album. And then you have the Raycon of Singers. Ah, that's a good one. Classic. Okay, I'm not familiar with that one. Oh, it's a great one. I think you're here to stay. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Are you done with this? Are you done with this? I think so. Okay, so. So now, notice right now, you rinsed all that crap out of your brain. Right, but I'm going to bring it back. Oh, boy. Now I've got to rinse it all out again. Go ahead, George. What do you got? Well, no, you happen to like it. I don't happen to like it. You don't like what? So I'm going to say, well, that Maria Carey song. Oh, Maria Carey. No, no, no. Yeah, she's excellent. You're just going to give her another three and a half cents. I mean did you see how much money that woman makes from this song No Guess Everybody else in the audience knows I mean she easy on the eyes I don't mind this song at all. I know why everybody hates this. I don't mind it. Sing it. Sing it, Mariah. Go ahead. Hit it. Hit it. Ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-ba. Ow! Ow! Ow! I was in time, George. I'm not a musician. See that? I play piano. Nobody's going to listen through this. So I'm going to ask you the question. What's your... Don't play it. What's your favorite Christmas song? If you had to pick one. I have to go Lizzo Christmas. because no I saw Mama Christmas no I don't like I saw Mama Christmas Santa Claus no I just like the whole I don't know anything by Perry Como anything like that oh so you're real traditionalist so no rock no rock and roll Christmas no I like old school Perry Como so you don't like like Greg Lake I Believe in Father Christmas or the Kinks Father Christmas no give us your money no no no no no no no no no any rock and roll song I'm forgetting. You don't like those? No, no, no. No, okay. I think Grandma got run over by an alien. He probably doesn't like that. Jingle Bell Rock. Crap. You don't like Grandma got run over by an alien? No, that's crap too. Do you like the new one that I played in last year's program? Santa Claus has got a dirty job. You probably don't even remember that I put that in there. Yeah, I think I remember that now. Okay. I think I remember that now. Okay, so are we done with the musical portion of this program? I think we're almost done. And we're going to try to get people back on track? Back on track. Well, since you requested it, when this ad will stop playing, we've got this one, this ditty. Grandma got run over by a reindeer. Elmo and Patsy. I have the original 45 for this. You know what? It's hack. It's just so hack. Do I like it? I like it. It's like, ugh, it's hack. See, that's why you listen to us. This is not staged. This is actually, I like it, he doesn't. He likes it, I don't. but we both can't stand Lizzo right yeah Lizzo is no good I could play no no no no more players we're done the wet ass girl what's it called what's her name the talentless the what? the talentless person the wet? you know wap you can't say what it is but I have no idea what you're talking about Christmas remix there we go this one here no you can't play that on me you know Cardi B the talent that is Cardi B she has a Christmas album out it's really good I couldn't tell you any of her songs but I know her M.O. before you even play it please do not play it I won't play it but she has a nice Santa Claus hat on and she's got her tongue sticking out of course she does she's all that women want to aspire to be the little kids shut it off shut it off shut it off shut it off so we we gotta end with something good we gotta end with a good song oh yeah this is just terrific I'm wondering where I'm gonna put this this might be a bonus segment I don't know if anybody's gonna stand in the middle of the there that's better There. Now it's all rinsed up. Are you done? I think so. Enter George C. Scott saying, Turn it off! Turn it off! You're going to hear that probably more than once. Turn it off. Turn it off. Turn it off! Turn it off! Two dad jokes. What does the snowman say to the other snowman? I don't know what, Mr. Fudd. What does the one man say to the other man, snowman? I don't know what they say. You smell carrots, too? Oh, that's really bad. That's really bad. What did one elf say to the other? I don't know, George. What did one elf say to the other? Let's go take an elfie. Oh, that's so bad. That's so bad. You think my dad jokes are bad? Those are the worst. Those are, oh, boy. Okay. It's like a three-year-old told those. Do you want to hear my other opening? Sure, go ahead. The guy who's... Hello, and welcome to another episode of The Air. The guy who has more wood in his basement than a Christmas tree farm, Dr. Dave. Okay. All right. That's not bad. I kind of like that. Okay. That kind of works. Okay. That kind of works. Okay. I think you could cut it there. Well, here's the thing about the Ray Conniff. This guy said he's about seven years old and 66, and my father bought my mother a brand new stereo and all the Ray Conniff Christmas albums for Christmas. We always listen to them every year. this guy said he's 62 and he still listens my parents are gone now but these songs hold so many happy memories for me and i still remember that too remember the christmas tree at night midnight you're waiting for santa actually probably mom and dad but that's a little inside joke uh to come and give you those presents and uh so let's really go back in time yeah did you have a phonograph that you could stack the records yes we did and we saw an inch of vinyl with like 14 albums ready to go for Christmas? I don't know, 14, probably about five. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. That's a good one. Oh, yeah. I always felt bad for the poor vinyl. Did Tijuana, did Herb Alpert, Alpert. Herb Alpert and a can. No, no. Herb Alpert. Herb, is it Alpert? Yeah. Herb Alpert. Alpert? Alpert. Alpert. Right. Yeah. Did he put out a Christmas album? Hmm. Herb Alpert. I just keep thinking of the Tijuana Brass. That was one that was on the turntable a lot in my grandparents' and my parents' house. He does have a Christmas album. Okay, we're going to have to go for it. Herb Albert, T-100 Brass, Christmas. That kind of goes with our two episodes ago, El Toro. Oh, it does go with that. Yeah. Might as well plug some of the old... That was a little slow. Let's move it. There we go. And while we're waiting for the conclusion of the Classic Pinball Podcast, Dave will fill your ears with a musical interlude from Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brothers. This is Channel 9. We're hearing Technical Difficulties. Please stand by. That was probably the best song you played so far. You like that one? It's not bad. It's mellow. I think I like that one. I tell the guys So that's our Christmas show Anything else for Christmas? Well we gotta still go to the basement Ah that's true I just finished this at the 11th hour I just Oh you're already making excuses No excuses I expect this thing to play perfectly I think it actually does I got it going Okay. We're going to go downstairs. We're going to talk about the features of the game, talk about the rule set. We're going to try to have everyone take away a little bit of knowledge because we're being accused of not teaching anybody anything. I don't know when I became a professor. I know you're a doctor, but I am certainly not a professor. I'm a doctor. I'm a doctor of pinball. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's just one outlier. Okay. Well, it's okay. Are we a teaching show? I didn't think we were I think it was just like a sideline Normally we would tell them to F off What if I go that far? But in the spirit of Christmas You're really not saying that Have a F and Merry Christmas Sorry Oh boy Well they're going to have to be satisfied Dave with this Because we're not going to record again For probably a month I'm going on hiatus you're probably just going underground after you repair like 19 machines between now and Christmas day I'm trying to space them out a little bit I'm actually pushing people out into January now I gotta kinda nobody's pleading oh please little Johnny wants to wake up to a working you know pinball on Christmas Johnny wants a sled bling do do do do do I want a pinball machine in my bed wait that doesn't make any sense I got a musical interlude alright do you remember I'm going to back it up a little bit do you remember this song yeah sounds familiar yeah they should play it for the new Scooby Pin I don't know how many people run around robbing banks eating Scooby Snacks. I think there might be an underlying meaning behind Scooby Snacks. Scooby Snacks means smoking big old joints, George. Oh, that's not what it said online. Okay. It kind of said something like that, but not that. Drugs. Some kind of drugs. Basically, it said if you are inhaling on a joint and you get some of the material in your mouth that would be called eating scooping snacks. I had never heard that before. Me neither. It's not really much of a snack. When was it made? In the 1990s somewhere? Probably. A lot of junk. Probably. Okay. A lot of just, they just kind of said, hey, I got night, they really stoned the bejesus and it's like, yeah, I think I'm just, let's do this song. What, dude? No, trust me, it's going to work out. it's just like it's just hack I don't know I'm trying to remember the movie I watched this week and I thought it had a tie into this but I guess it doesn't Bandit it's new with Mel Gibson it's about this guy who robs banks okay he robbed 59 banks okay it's not a it's based on a true story yeah But I was trying to figure the Christmas or music thing, and it'll come to me later. I don't remember why. Good movie. So he's into Christmas movies. Actually, Christmas movies. How about that? What's your favorite Christmas movie to watch around this time frame? Not a movie. Probably a TV show. The Grinch. Not the movie. The cartoon. Yeah, the cartoon. I've already watched it four times. My granddaughter is obsessed with, gotta watch the Grinch, Grampy. Gotta watch the Grinch, Grampy. well you know the Grinch's heart grew ten times the size that day three times the size he had myocarditis George you know about that little he's ahead of his time trying to keep this show non-political stay away shut it off we're going downstairs it's a medical show now George don't take our advice though whatever you do it's just for it's uh what's it called no take a vice take a vice don't take advice okay Take advice. Don't take our word for it. Take advice before you listen to this. There you go. And call me in the morning. Right. I'm in Dave's basement standing in front of the big pile of, I mean, in front of $6 million mad. Big pile. The big pile of wood. Pile of wood, yeah. The big pile of wood. It's painted wood. It looks like you might have drained a few, maybe not. I sold some stuff. No, you got stuff all over. Some stuff came in. Every time I come down here, there's other things. Things. You're being nice, George. Yeah. There's stuff. Anyway, we're in front of the $6 million man. I'd like to talk about the layout a little bit and then a couple of the rules. So we're looking at a game that's got a saucer on top with two lanes, one on each side of the saucer. They're probably pivoted maybe 30 degrees. Below that, there are three pop bumpers. and on each side there are round uh stationary targets for 100 points each as you move down on the right hand side there's a five bank target bank um and on the left hand side i think i described this earlier there are three rectangular very different kind of targets stationary that you don't see on many games the only one that i've seen it on is a old king of steel that i had at the bottom the big differentiator is the play more post and we'll talk about that in a little minute uh in a minute so to get this game going uh most likely you're probably going to land in the saucer up top but the two lanes one is a five numeral and the numeral zero and there are three other zeros those three stationary targets on the left hand side that is what's called the bionic power score get all those five targets or lanes two lanes three targets you get 50 000 points you get five extra bonus and there's a lane uh what do you call that on the side the gate on the right hand side um that opens what am i forgetting you're forgetting the theme music this guy was a man barely alive but we're going to rebuild him make him better faster and stronger than he was george i know what i was going to say i noticed this when uh i first looked at the game uh steve austin who is uh barely alive the bionic man they uh bally no i'll know the tv show trademarked the name bionic and it says red alert full bionic power and on the bottom of it and i think this should probably be the segment this is the bionic adventure i didn't know that they trademarked that name and i said to dave before we started recording where would you even use other than describing the six million dollar man where would you use bionic they don't use that in robotics do they uh they're wanted to it's kind of sort of a transhumanism kind of thing the beginning of that uh thing and they actually might become more into these days in the the late 2020s or whatever well i did the homework okay in real dollars this was released in 1978 yeah the tv show ran from when you said you used to watch it used to watch it so you know 72 or four or something like that no this is happening the same this is happening in the late 70s no no i think it's 74 you sure yeah well you can look anyway anyway in today's real dollars belabored it would be 40 million dollar man so to update it to 2022 you looking that up i am okay the 40 million dollar man yep he would be the 40 million dollar man and for those who are not familiar you know he's got what a fake eye uh fake legs and a fake arm no those are enhanced george whatever they call it what they're super duper he's better than they're not human they're fake right right is that what he had i'm asking how else you're gonna go up against the scoff squatch and what does osi stand for i i was ready for that question and it stands for official scientific intelligence and who's the or sorry sorry sorry office of scientific intelligence character on the back that is oscar goldman and he is uh head of the uh office of scientific are there any other characters in this game or machine or tv show that we should be aware of well i found out for some reason i mean it's kind of got the jet theme going on here with the what's the movie that you just watched top gun 2 top gun whatever revisited yeah he was kind of got the top gun theme going on he was a spaceman george who was steve austin you know more about this than i do i don't know he was in a he was in a spacecraft kind of thing and it came down and it had a problem and he says uh i can't do it i can't do it and then he just kind of stumbled down and kind of ran rolled over the ground and he's he's all smashed up and uh that's when they got him out of there and oscar goldman came in i'm gonna notice two other things on here yes why is he wearing an Italian horn necklace because he's super duper 70's porn star with his porn star mustache and his hairy chest and his hairy forearm and then the belt buckle take charge what's that about it says take charge OSI so it's kind of hard to see the OSI that's very weird and see look Look at his bicep. It's popping through. It says pop. His muscles are popping through. So kind of Batman-esque. Well, no. It's kind of... His bionic arm is so powerful. It's popping through his special... His flight suit. His flight suit. Yes. Very, very special. So what did you find out? You were looking something up. Yeah. I basically found out that the guy, Oscar Goldman, his name was Richard Anderson. And he was 91... In fact, he died in 2017. He's 91. He was in many things. Perry Mason, I Spy, The Rifleman, Man From Uncle, Gunsmoke, Hawaii Five-0, Ironside, and Love Boat he was on. But anyone that sees him always knows him as Oscar Goldman. And he was the hard-driven division director at the fictional Office of Scientific Intelligence on the hit show Six Million Dollar Man. And according to this article, in its superior spinoff, The Bionicle Man. I beg to differ. There was a bionic woman? Yeah. Who was that? And why? No, who? Who? Jamie Summers. That was the girl in it. She had a special hearing. Was she in the original $6 million man show? Only the bridge episode, the bridging to the new spell. So when it jumped the shark? When it jumped the shark, they let her jump it. And she jumped the shark, and she had a bionic ear. So she had bionic hearing, George. I'm not going there. Yeah. I'm not going. I was going to ask. And then I knew better than to ask that question. What else has she got? No, I would have said, what other parts? And then... Okay, I'll tell you. I don't want to. Stop it. Let me tell you a little bit about that. I caught myself. See, it's only taken almost 100 episodes. I'm catching on. All you've got to figure out is these are... You set me up. Don't do that. These are man scientists designing the parts. So it's like, you know... Can we play a game? Like the robots. What do you think they made those robots for? What robots? The robots they're making. What do you think they're making the robots for? The female robots they're making to do your house cleaning. It's not just for house cleaning. In the future, George. Oh, come on. They're cleaning house, all right. Oh, you've been watching way too many movies. Way, way, way too many movies. A different kind of Roomba. Do you want to... An Arumba. Do you want to set the stage here? Sure, we'll set the stage. Let me play clean up, so... All right, you can play clean up. I can see how well or poorly I can do. come on y'all get your game on i'm gonna shoot the ball here i'm gonna try to get in the saucer in the middle and i missed and i lost oh it went right down awesome well i got 1220 points for that one that's good that's steve awesome that's steve not so awesome that's steve awesome here we go was barely alive so i've just plunged and I got a zero. Now I do have this aggressively set up to really steep incline. And those... Trying for the left hand spinner. And those spinners... I got one of the targets. Those flippers are very far apart. I've got two, but I got one of the stationary targets. There's a cavern between the two. Oh, I didn't even know I had that. Okay, now this is what I love about this game. You tap it back and forth. Did I ever show you how I do it? These two fingers digit two and four are like that the guy and then you just right and then you just go nice and gently with the middle finger okay let's see i'll give you a gentle middle finger all right nice george and i and i lost the thing stop it wow okay i got it up there that's what she said here we go oh okay so i got it in the saucer and i don't i don't have many points do i oh and i got the i got the play more post again so that's twice but that's right where the spin it's going to go down again but i'm going to go for the spinner yeah that's right where the spinner is oh you missed it that time okay twice oh out she goes left lane out but all that for 25 000 points i did yes all that and i just realized this is a stingy game or am i just well it's a little stingy but again I jacked the back of this thing up all the way up and so it's pretty aggressive it's not too bad it's like 6.5 degree tilt on it and level angle but I totally rebuilt the pop hummers the whole deal all of them rebuilt the flippers whole deal there but I did one thing I haven't done yet because I just finished this game this was the first play test we're doing I noticed the flippers I'm touching the flippers on the right hand flipper you have the this was in some kind of pizza shop or something at some point in his life, and some ne'er-do-wells, some 18-year-old ne'er-do-well young boys, I'm sure, took their lighter to the flipper button, and it's burnt up flipper button, so I feel the burned up flipper, because I don't know why, but they got a lighter, and they're gonna How do you know they didn't have a cigarette in there? No, no, that's from some of the frickin' lighter, and they wanted to light it on fire. So what else did you do to this game before you play, uh... Well, you can talk while you're playing. So Dave just got the fire. Oh, boy, oh, boy. Oh, this is awesome. Wow, George is kicking my bionic ass. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I am. I need more bionic power. Okay, so I need the five. And I got the center. 5,000 points. Plus. Up post. Right, so the up post. Oh, those are in a... Oh. Right. It's kind of like... Well, this game... It's stingy. Either that or we are really bad. There. I got the saucer at the top. So these sounds on this game are similar to... Paragon? Yep, it sounds like Paragon. Same kind of thing. But the bonus didn't sound like Paragon. No. Bonus sounds a little unique. Well, they gotta change it up a little bit. Like that old thing. It's very... Okay, so Dave has gotten it in the saucer. It makes it hard with those two posts right there. It's high-tech, futuristic, bionic computer sounds. Okay, so Dave's making a run on it. He's up to five. Three times. Three times bonus. He's got the five and two zeros. And he's got the play more post. And he's got 13 bonus. So, okay, you can make it. It's not hard to make a rally here. You need that other. There we go. Five times. So, five times. I'm coming for you. Yeah. I need those drop targets. So, getting 50,000 is not easy. No, it's not easy. Down the right-hand lane. Alright So definitely a unique bonus Yes Not pretty good Dave 118 Yeah you're trashing me Okay I need the 5 This game's pretty challenging And I got nothing This is... Okay. It's flying around. Yeah. Oh, I got the play more post. That just saved me. Okay, let's... That was down the middle. You get the bonus match for that. I guess the computer's got to catch up, huh? It's got to catch up. Yeah, the Bionic Computer has to bionically catch up. Wow. Sure it's not broken? Nope, it's catching up. I wonder what you hit. There. It finally stopped. Those are 100 points. Whoa, whoa, whoa. What did I do? You hit stuff. Okay. I'm not sure. I don't know either. All I need is the five. The five. Oh, that's up top. Yeah, you need the five. So here we go. Here we go. That's not it. Oh, and I lost the post. Oh, another try at the spinner shot. That's a no-go. No! Oh, come on. Making a run for it. One, two, three, four, five, six. You both got a high score. 118 to 83. Let's play again. Let's try again. I almost had the 50 You did I know that doesn mean anything but You almost won Oh that was dumb Okay, so I got a question. In the Christmas spirit, artificial or real? His limbs? No, the tree. Oh. Oh, boy. I just got into the saucer. Let's see. And I've got the Playmore post. And I don't know why I just did what I did. When I was younger, real. Nowadays, I go for easy and have the artificial tree. Okay, so I heard this on TV yesterday, and I thought it was brilliant. How about the room where you put up your Christmas tree? Yeah. You make what's called a Christmas tree closet. Okay. You open the closet You pull the tree out It's fully decorated All you have to do is plug it in When you're done at the end of Christmas season You wheel it back into the closet And you close the closet Done No moving, no hauling up to the attic No putting it in the basement No taking it apart That's what I do right now With a little skinny tree But I'm saying like a full size I saw your tree That's a miniature tree Yeah, it's skinny. Oh, come on, come on, come on. Oh, there we go. It's not two foot tall. No, it's not bad. I didn't say that. It's a Christmas tree. Yeah. But I'm just saying. I thought it was a good idea. No, God, I knew that was going to happen. It was telegraphing. Left hand laid. This game is stingy if you don't. If you don't get all your bionic power. Oh, so you got the five. I just need that zero at the bottom. All you need is that one zero. And you went? I went there instead. Right, but... Get up there. Right. Yeah, those two posts at the bottom of that saucer make it difficult. They do. Right in the saucer. And out she goes. I don't think either... Have either one of us lit the spinner? I don't think so. No. God, we're really bad. Yeah. I made this game Nobody's Sweetheart. Here we go. I need the five, and I won't get it again, and I won't get... Oh, at least get the saucer. Okay, okay, come on, come on, don't go there. Okay, I got the play more post, so that makes it a little bit easier. So let's get it over on the other left side, and... You're like a left-hand lane out there. Out she goes. This is really bad. 25 to 31, third ball. When I got this game in from a customer down the Cape who was moving, he wanted me to move it originally from one Cape house to another Cape house. I said, well, I'll take it in and do a little quick restoration on it. So we did that, made a deal on it. But the play field itself, it's a gorgeous play field. It's very low use. Usually these are blown out pretty well. Back glass is nice on it. The cabinet's not bad. The cabinet's nice. Someone did a little quickie paint job on the head, which is not really the best, but it's okay. Yeah, it's good enough. They used a brush. He used a brush, which is usually crap. And they didn't fill in... They didn't fill any... They filled in nothing. I figured the place he bought her from did that. That could be a lot better. You got a corner broken on the backbox. But that's... He's not really paying for that, though. This is the quick... This is the Reader's Digest version of, you know... So, anything with the boards, or... Yeah, all that stuff. Redone all that. Do you replace, or redo? I redo unless they really need to be replaced. On this restoration, the way this level is... MPU is good? MPU is actually good. Oh, 50,000 points. I got it. The MPU is actually a nice MPU. Okay, but I still can catch you. You only have 103,000. Okay, here we go. I'm sorry. What were you saying? The MPU is a nice original MPU. Not really much rot at all, so I just clean it off, and it works well. Rectifier? The Rectifier, boy, is actually good. I didn't even touch it yet, so. Wow. Gameplay's nice, and I'm not going to get, because I pulled it all the way back again, but I got the up post and I got 5,000 points so I like that feature I can let it bounce which is great it's kind of like Bobby or and we get up I need the pipe I need that five that's hard to get and that really came way too fast okay come on give me the five give me the five I got that okay so now I got what two times. That spinner is really stingy unless you get the drop target. Ten points to spin. I keep forgetting that every time you get it up in there you get the play more post. Oh, she goes again. Oh, sorry. Oh, maybe. Oh! 103 to 98,000. Yeah, those five targets on the right-hand side, you're not apt to aim for those. This seems to be a spinner all day game. Yeah, because, again, the cavernous thing between the flippers there, it's... I'm going to try going for those drop targets this time. I'm going to see if I can... I bet you it's going to be a death shot, but I'll try. Okay, so the saucer is, like, almost seven out of ten times. Oh, you... Those outlanes are rough. Brutal. Brutal. Well, we want to talk about a rough game, and I know it's not one of your favorites because you told me so, but I've been playing Knight Rider. That game has to be a tournament game. If that's set up right, that game's tough. Oh, I got to play more posts, and it came down again. I don't like where those buttons are. It's just like Bobby Orr. Same thing. It's like Bobby Orr again. They kind of rob from that game. There's a lot of similarities. Yeah, it's, uh... Okay, Dave just got back up there again, so... Into the saucer. That seems to be the shot, though. It is the shot. And my post is up, which is good. Right, but as soon as you go for that post... Oh, he got the five. You need that other zero up in that other lane. And the right lane is... It's like a magnet over there. Both are. That's why years ago, customers would say, oh, is it really true this magnet's neat to play for? It's like, no, it just seems that way. No, you just suck. I wouldn't say that. I'd say your play phone could be warped or the spin of the ball. Okay, okay, I got the one. I need that other one. Come on. And I got the play more post, so... Okay, see, as soon as I went... Same thing, right? As soon as you go up that spinner, you definitely end up... It's almost like it's planned that way. Yeah, it definitely is. Okay, three, so two times. Okay. Okay. I need that five, though. Oh, and I got the play more post again. You do. I keep forgetting that. Okay, up again. Get the five. Get the five. No end there. Okay, so I got three times now. Okay. He's got 20 bonus and three times right now. Oh, there we go. Five times and I got 24. Okay, this is getting better. I want that $50,000. And I haven't... All you need now is that $5,000 up top. That Playmore post comes in handy. But I want that $5,000. That might be your $5,000. No, it's not. Oh, it is! Oh, no, no, no! Oh, it's on the edge. Okay, so counterintuitive. You want to bang it this way. I'm gonna bang the right hand side. It's right on top of the lane guide. Here we go. 50-50. Oh! And he chooses correctly and he gets 50,000. Oh! And I... Oh, down the middle. The Playmobil goes down because it ran over the insert. You play less on that one. Wow. You're watching some tutorial videos on how to play pinball, it sounds like. Okay, I'm actually very... Okay, I'm actually very happy. 219. There we go. Ball three. I have 47. George has 219. And I'm, it's my last ball free. George has one more ball left to go. So let's see if I can get an extra ball maybe. Let's try that. I'll get some drop targets. But I think people are getting the idea. You don't hear us aiming for the targets. All you hear us aiming for are those two spinners. I'm going to aim for targets right now. You got one, you got two. Play more posts. The Playmore Post, this game would really be difficult if it didn't have that. There you go. There you go. Okay, Dave is... Oh, he got the five. Oh, he's got one target left to go. One of the drop targets, which would give him the lit spinner at 1,000. Oh, almost. Oh, Dave, you're back on the line. Okay. This could be a walk-off, but it's not, because I'm going to try to do what he just did. I'm not going to shoot from up top. I want to shoot the spinner. Okay, got in the saucer again. Got the play more lane. Can it come to the bottom without it draining? Stay away from... Oh, it's gone. No more player posts for you, but there's two drop targets left to go. Two bottom ones. And he shot a bingo for that time. Oh, no, no, no, no. That right lane. New high score for George. Okay. This has a playability thing. You want to keep playing this game, I'm finding. I don't want to bring this back just yet. I need more playtesting. You know what it is, the color scheme? It's the same color blue as Bobby Orr. And the same red. It's Dave Christensen, that's why. That's who did this game. He loves his reds. Look at the reds. Look at his little jumpsuit there. Okay. One more? I don't know if I'm going to put all these in, but... He uses dial soap. It gets his chest hairs extra crispy. So we still haven't had anybody get a thousand. I'm saying Steve Austin uses dial soap. It makes his chest hairs extra crispy. He's furry. Isn't he furry? Yes. Maybe he is a scotch. Let's watch. And who is General Von Britz? Who is it? It's a little, on the little plane there. On the plane there. That's his name. The jet, yeah. And who is it? I have no idea. I've got to look that little factoid up. Next show. Email us and let us know who that is. Okay. Yeah, I can't believe you watched this show. But you're younger than me, so it makes sense. I would have been in high school. Wasn't really interested in Steve Austin in high school. Okay. That saucer is definitely 7 out of 10. 7 out of 10. Times in, when it goes up there. It rarely, there you go, the play more post and up to the right. And he still has the play more post and he gets the zero. Oh, look at you avoiding that rollover. Again, missing it. No, not that time. Here comes the fun. Okay, he's got one of the targets to go. One more to go. Oh, no, you can't do it off of that one. Oh, nice save. Thank you. I want to play more post-op. Oh, nice. There you go. He gets it. I got it. And then you can't take advantage of it. You got the 1,000-point spinner. Well, it's a day for next time. I don't know. Okay, so is that what we're going for now? I think so. Okay. Okay, so, I mean, we played the game. We've already played high score. Let's go for the targets because we haven't done that yet. and if 50,000 happens to happen so so be it but i'll go for i'll go for the targets the drops i'm having a good i'm having a good ball already more exhausted for you yeah oh there we go the other zero this is this is looking and i got the play more post okay so we want to go for the drops market zero oh Oh, stay away from me. There he goes. Oh, nice save. One more drop target to go. Oh, I got one more? No more post, but he has one drop target to go. Come on. Oh, very. Oh. Oh, he's running around. You got the post up. I'm panicking. I'm panicking. Oh, stop. Stop. Stop. Oh. Oh, you need a post. Oh, I got the 50,000. You do. There you go. Now you shoot that last little drop target. Okay, here we go. Oh, there we go. Okay, now I got the 1,000 points. Don't stay away from there. Oh, no, go on. Oh, I got the post. Okay. Now he has a chance. Okay, so now I can roll. Oh, we're only on ball one. Oh, this is good. Yeah, those spinners spin like grease lightning if you get them. Nice. 1,000 points of spin there. And I already got 50,000. And now I just got three times. Oh, this is a good ball. At 25. Okay, I need five times now. Oh, no. Oh, wow, nice save there. Extra ball on the two if you can get it. Extra ball on the drop tires. Two more drop tires for extra ball. Oh, come on. No! That was a nice ball. Got about 150,000 points, I think, on this one. On ball one. Dr. Dave needs to step up and make something happen. At 164, I get 50. I don't need that. I'm gonna get anywhere. I already got that one. Yeah, that 50,000 comes in handy. Oh, boy. Oh, the... That sucked. A lot of right lane. Yeah. That gate should open a lot easier than it does, because you need it. Okay, got the zero, got the saucer. No carryover, right? No, no carryover. Not even 20? No, unfortunately not. You gotta earn your lunch here. Okay. No. I wanna stay... No! I got one. Those lanes. Those lanes. That's good. Saucer. Velosauce her. Yes, two times bonus. There you go. You need the five and a zero. I do. I'll go up top again. Almost. Don't take that. That's always a good consolation, you know. It is. But it would be a lot better to have a thousand point spinner. True. That's not easy to do. You don't want that ball going right to left or left to right. No, you really don't. Oh, easy. Okay, Dave. 29, he maxes out the bonus. I think it's weird that they don't use the 10 to make it 39. They must have ran out of room. Hmm. Right? Normally you would see them use the extra 10 digit there to make it 39 for the bonus. I think... Like you do on Harlem Globetrotters. Yes. true right all right i'm gonna go for up post in the center there i want a safety like i don't know what i'm talking about but sometimes i do all right okay so he's got the post down again that's what i wanted oh oh and he only needs one target to get this oh and he missed it again and again but he's not hit the rollover to put the post down oh again i missed it and you keep avoiding the post, which is good. Or the rollover. Okay, here we go. Okay, but he lost the post. Alright. Okay, spinner shot. But you got the spinner. There we go. 82 to 96. That's not a big one. That's only 14. Gotta put a little bit more juice on that spinner. Yeah, I do. And down she goes in the middle. I'm ahead of you, but I don't know. It's not a big lead. You have five times. I do. So I got 200 and something thousand points here. But you still... It's true. You're 60,000 above me. I mean, I've got to do something. I can't... I have no carryover. 244 for me on ball three. 181 going into ball three for George. Hang on. I didn't realize this. The bionic thing. That carries over. I didn't realize that. Oh, wow. So I just need the five. You need the five. Yeah, that'll help you a lot. I wish I tried to do that. Okay, here we go. Luck be with George. Let's see. Nope. Not enough. In the saucer. But that's a great consolation. 5,000 first and then the multiplier. So that's not a bad thing. But I've got to get 60,000 points here. Okay. No, too early. Too early. Oh! Oh! No, come on! No! I missed you. You just missed me. What the hundreds of four, but you're getting them anyway. Hey, it might get you there just by doing that. Why is it doing that? I don't know. Oh! all right 244 to 218 that was weird that was weird it's counting something maybe it counts these by the hundreds a thousand points going out i don't know no i mean sometimes the mpu on these things can be slow i know on my harlem yeah it's always ketchup because it's got the original mpu in it i think the more modern mpus definitely don't have that that you sure on that i don't think so i think it emulates the same really yeah it's it's i never i never replaced it it's a software it's a software thing it's not a it's the way it's not a speed and feed nope it's the way it's the way the game it's the way the rom is written the rom is that way okay i say we uh i say we sign off here we need to do a sign off all right you want me to start i feel like taking some sign off i got a head cold you want me do you want me do you want me to start sure go ahead this is episode 98 of the classic pinball podcast my name is george his name is dave and this time of year there's always time for a little bit of reflection and then looking forward and don't usually get political. I wouldn't call this political, but I'm very, very thankful for the fact that we're able to get on air, talk about pinball in our own words without being stifled because we live in one of the greatest countries in the world. And I'm very thankful for that. I'm thankful for my friend Dave and his wife Maureen. And I want to wish all our listeners a very, very Merry Christmas or any other holiday that you might celebrate. Happy New Year. We're going to take about a month off, folks. So this is going to have to do for the time being. I'm doing some traveling and I'll be back. and we'll get to the new year with some new episodes and we're very close dave only two episodes away okay we gotta get ready for this big 100 coming up we got some ideas that we're gonna uh we're banding about a little bit here but uh wishing everybody a merry christmas and a happy new year and uh be thankful every day and uh you know just spreading the joy and good vibes out there and they'll come right back at you what did i ask you to remind me remind you to do oh yeah oh yes right dave how can people find you and how can people find us it's funny you say that george i have the idea so you can actually find me at uh pinballdoctor.com all spelled out P-I-N-B-A-L-L-D-O-C-T-O-R dot com on my website. And you can also see all our podcasts on my website as well. I list them on there as well as my YouTube channels on there. You can find my portfolio of work on Dr. Day's Pimmo Restorations on YouTube. You can find me there. Also, you can see all the different news articles about the biz that I've done over the past 30 years as well as the Channel 5 Chronicle episode and NBC Boston episode is also on there as well. Yeah, we went a whole episode and we didn't mention a certain somebody. And I want to thank him personally for content and being just an all around great guy. Grant, Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas, Grant. That doesn't mean we don't say Merry Christmas to everybody else, but he's been a contributor. He's been just a, a great foil, I guess. Somebody to play off of. Somebody who tells us what's working, what's not working. Just good, honest opinion. If you go to any kind of YouTube channel and someone does a comment and they say, Grant will be first. He's always there right away. As soon as he listens to the episode, he's like, Hey guys, great episode. I like this, I like that. So he's very... He's very interactive. And number one fan. We like that. Grant keeping tabs on us and so forth back and forth. Have a Merry Christmas, everybody. Take care. God bless. I think it was good. What do you think? Yeah. I don't know how much of the game played. It's Lee Majors, the $6 million man. Santa, is there a back way out of this place? Of course there is, Lee, but this is one Santa that's going out the front door. It don't matter a hill of beans what happens to me. The world couldn't afford it if anything happened to you. Now you stay put. Oh, that's very nice of you, Lee. And Lee, you've been a real good boy this year. Yes, you sure have. Seven o'clock, Psycho C. Sanders Workshop. Eat this, and only Lee Majors can stop them. The night the ring here died. You're a mean one, Mr. Grinch You really are a heel You're as cuddly as a cactus As charming as an eel, Mr. Grinch You're a bad banana with a Gracie Blackfield You're a monster, Mr. Grinch Your heart's an empty hole Your brain is full of spiders You've got garlic in your soul, Mr. Grinch I wouldn't touch you with a 39 and a half foot pole Mr. Grinch Between the choice of the two of you, I'd take The seasick crocodile The three words that best describe you are as follows, and I quote, Stay Stank Stunk. We are Santa's elves. We are Santa's elves. Building Santa's shelves. With a toy for each girl and boy. Oh, we are Santa's elves. Who do you call when you want your pinball machine restored? Dr. Dave! Dave! Who? Dave! D-A-V-E! Yeah, Dave! Dave! But George, you don't know what you're saying. You're under their control. Hasta la vista, baby.