Magic Girl Pinball Magna Save Revealed

Kaneda Pinball Podcast YouTube (main)·video·16m 59s·analyzed·Mar 14, 2017

Analysis

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TL;DR

Kaneda reveals Magic Girl Magna Save malfunction and design flaws requiring part availability.

Summary

Kaneda documents ongoing mechanical failures and design flaws in his Magic Girl pinball machine, including a broken ramp entrance piece and non-functional Magna Save feature. He demonstrates several unreleased gameplay elements (Magna Save, Magna Flipper screen, vertical up-kick reversal) while highlighting poor playfield geometry, software glitches, and the critical need for replacement parts availability from American Pinball/designers John Papa Duke and Scott. Despite these issues, he expresses hope the machine can be fully functional with proper support.

Key Claims

Magic Girl's Magna Save feature is ineffective—the magnet cannot catch a ball moving at normal pinball velocity and often throws it into the outlane instead of saving it
high confidence · Direct demonstration with visual evidence of failed catches; Kaneda compares it unfavorably to Tales of the Arabian Nights shooting star save mechanism
The ramp entrance plastic broke from the vertical up-kick reversal feature hitting it repeatedly during normal play
high confidence · Kaneda identifies and demonstrates the mechanical cause on playfield; shows the broken plastic piece and impact zone
Magic Girl has a software glitch where the '1 Million Ball Save' screen becomes stuck and cannot be cleared without resetting the machine
high confidence · Documented during live playfield demonstration; screen locks and requires power reset
The diagnostic audit shows 733 total games played and 1,192 games started, which Kaneda believes is false data—suspects American Pinball may have inflated the numbers
medium confidence · Kaneda estimates he's only played 30-40 times and doubts the machine could have that many plays at American Pinball before shipping; suggests the inflated numbers prevent sellers from claiming 'under 200 plays' on secondary market
The center post switch that activates the center post mechanism is extremely difficult to hit in normal play
high confidence · Kaneda demonstrates failed attempts to activate the feature during video; describes it as a 'really hard switch to hit'
Magic Girl lacks a functional ball lock mechanism—no way to lock two balls and start multiball despite having all the music, sounds, callouts, and light show prepared for it
high confidence · Kaneda's observation: 'The way he had the ball lock in Toten, just have the ball lock back in this upper right area somewhere. Nothing happens back here. It's just mind-boggling that he spent so much time and just couldn't figure out how to lock two balls and then have a multi-ball start.'
A ball once became stuck in the middle of the upper ramp with no way to rock the machine to dislodge it—required glass removal

Notable Quotes

“if anything breaks, I'm like, I'm never going to get a replacement part. All right? Never.”
Kaneda@ 0:34 — Core anxiety driving the video—highlights the worst-case scenario for Magic Girl owners of stranded machines without parts support
“There's all these magnets, and none of them work. At least that one activates.”
Kaneda@ 9:26 — Damning assessment of Magic Girl's multiple magnetic features; only the Magna Save activates but doesn't function as intended
“when you actually add in the velocity of a normal pinball game where the ball's going back and forth really strong, there's no way that can catch the ball. There's no way.”
Kaneda@ 9:02 — Technical critique of John Papa Duke's design philosophy—he designed features for slow rolling balls but didn't account for actual pinball velocities
“It's just mind-boggling that he spent so much time and just couldn't figure out how to lock two balls and then have a multi-ball start.”
Kaneda@ 16:29 — Critique of incomplete game design—all assets (music, sounds, callouts, light show) exist for multiball but the mechanic isn't wired
“I don't know if it's ever going to be fully functioning. I've got to be honest. There's a lot of just like geometry things that just don't work.”
Kaneda@ 15:37 — Resignation about Magic Girl's fundamental playfield design problems; suggests some issues may be unfixable
“it's really key that people who spend all this money can have some peace of mind and get like replacement plastics, replacement playfield.”

Entities

Magic Girlgame KanedapersonJohn Papa DukepersonScottperson American PinballcompanyBrendanpersonTales of the Arabian Nightsgame

Signals

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business_signal: American Pinball has not provided replacement parts to Magic Girl owners, leaving them vulnerable to machine damage and unable to perform maintenance with confidence
high · Kaneda's stated worst fear realized; had to reach out to designers hoping for parts availability; explicitly calls this a key industry failure
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sentiment_shift: Growing resignation that Magic Girl may never be fully functional despite high secondary market value; community focus shifts to damage control and parts availability rather than gameplay completion
medium · Kaneda states 'I don't know if it's ever going to be fully functioning' and pivots to emphasizing replacement parts need rather than feature fixes
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design_philosophy: John Papa Duke's Magna Save and other magnetic features were designed for slow-rolling ball scenarios and fail catastrophically under normal pinball velocities
high · Kaneda's technical analysis: 'when you actually add in the velocity of a normal pinball game where the ball's going back and forth really strong, there's no way that can catch the ball'
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design_philosophy: Magic Girl's design reflects a disconnect between concept and execution—features exist in isolation but lack proper integration, sequencing, and consideration of actual play conditions
high · Ramp hits plastic entrance, Magna Save throws ball to outlane instead of saving, center post switch nearly impossible to hit, ball traps on ramp geometry, multiball incomplete
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market_signal: Suspected artificial inflation of Magic Girl diagnostic play counts by American Pinball, potentially to reduce secondary market values by preventing 'under 200 plays' marketing claims

Topics

Mechanical design failures and playfield geometry problemsprimaryMagna Save feature non-functionalityprimaryLack of replacement parts availability from American PinballprimarySoftware glitches and incomplete code implementationprimaryMagic Girl's troubled development and designer limitationssecondarySecondary market transparency and diagnostic manipulationsecondaryPinball machine durability and owner anxietysecondary

Sentiment

negative(-0.75)— Kaneda expresses frustration with mechanical failures, anxiety about part availability, resignation about full functionality, and disappointment with design decisions. However, he maintains some optimism that the machine can be fixed with proper support and acknowledges the game is 'still fun to flip.' The overall tone is critical but not hostile—directed at design/support failures rather than personal attacks.

Transcript

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I'm telling you, if you order Lebowski today, you're going to have your pin in two weeks. Yeah, no, two weeks, guaranteed. Those guys, they never miss a ship date. Yeah, no, they're amazing. Completely efficient. Oh, hey guys! It's Kaneda. How you doing? Welcome. It's been a while. We wanted to do another Magic Girl video. This is probably going to be one of the last ones I do in a while, just because I think there's nothing left to discover on this machine. But I want to share with you guys something that's happened to my machine. And it's kind of heartbreaking because my worst fear has come true. And I'm like, you know, I really enjoy flipping the machine, but I'm nervous about flipping it because if anything breaks, I'm like, I'm never going to get a replacement part. All right? Never. And I was playing on Saturday, and all of a sudden, this little piece of plastic just slides down the play field and ends up like right about there. That's like the scene of the crime. And I'm like, oh, no. Like, I did it. I broke my magic girl. And so we started to look around the play field, like where did this come from? And we found out after searching, that obviously it came from something clear and plasticky. So the ramp, if you get up right here, is what broke at the entrance. And that's a pretty common area where ramps would break if there's no post in front of it to protect it. And as you can see, this post here will never protect there. There's a post on the other side that would protect the entrance, but even that can be hit easily. And I think I know what broke this off. This vertical up kick here, we're going to show you guys how that works in this video. And it, like, shoots the ball back up the ramp, but a lot of times it causes it to hit the plastic. So I think that's what occurred. It goes like, reversal, and it shoots it back up. Now, I want to say this. I'm not 100% positive that I won't be able to get replacement parts. I've reached out to Scott and John. I think John's in Canada right now. So I'm hoping they will allow me to buy replacement parts. I mean, it seems kind of silly that owners of Magic Girl can't get parts yet. But hopefully, I'm hopeful, we can all get replacement plastic. Because you want to be able to flip this thing with peace of mind. And I would play it all day long if I had that peace of mind. Because I want to get a new play field, new parts. Something funny I want to show you. I've played this machine maybe like 30 to 40 times, and I was looking at the diagnostics on it. Because I'm like, let me just see how many total plays I've put on this thing. So if we go down to audits. And do general. Look at this. Total games played. 733 total game started 1192 there is no way I put anywhere close to that and there's no way they played that many games at American Pinball I don't know if John jacked the number up to make it harder for us to sell it because now we can't do the obligatory pin side less than 200 plays everyone always says that can you guys see this blizzard out here can you get this we're in the middle of this incredible storm All right, but no one cares about the Carl Weathers. You guys want to hear about Magikarp. 60 hours of total gameplay, that's all BS. I won't go into all the diagnostic menus. Here's what we're going to do on this video of Kaneda's Magikarp walkthrough. We're going to show you guys a couple of features that haven't been shown before. Did I? That little piece of plastic. OK, I don't want to lose it. We're going to show you guys the magnet save. Now, Brett, if you want to get in here, this is the magnet save area. This sort of like genie guy with an eyeball in the middle. Is that an eyeball or a crown? The ball gets trapped there using a magnet underneath the plate filter. We're going to show you how that works. The way you activate that is you shoot the ball in the scoop right here. We're going to show you guys how this center post goes up. The way that goes up is you going to hit this switch here which is really impossible to hit Then we going to show you how this vertical up kick works and how it does that reversal which I think busted my ramp I'm trying to think of anything else. We're also going to try and show you guys how to light the Magna Flipper screen. So it says, like, use Magna Flippers now. Now, there's no way to use them. It takes a little while, so have some patience with this video. You get to hear all the cool sounds the owl will hoot and all this stuff will happen and bren is like Gonna try and hold the camera still long enough to do it all let's start right now Let's do the magnet save and let's get the game going tell everyone had the ball got stuck on the ramp One thing that did happen Thank you Brenna for reminding me of another fault of this game The ball got stuck in here in the middle of this ramp And what happened was the ball came up the ramp really fast it hit here and bounced back over here And once the ball got hung up here, that's it There's no way to rock the game back and forth and get it out of there. You've got to glass off. That's only happened once. It only happened once, but it happened yesterday. So it's fresh. The paint is really fresh in my mind. All right. Let's make sure we do our tape. I put some Mylar down. I put some Mylar down here. The plunge doesn't really work great. Look at that. We'll do a little up-up. The MagnaSafe is lit. We're ready. Look at that. Right down the middle. We're going to show you guys MagnaSafe right now. Hang up. I've got to get a stronger spring. Alright. Take it with a sledge. Ready? No, it's not lit yet. You didn't light the light, did you? Ha! Alright, so when that lights up, Magnus Jane is lit. Alright, so ready? We're gonna go... Ready for this? Get over here, babe, so it's lit. I got it. Player point. Sorry guys, I thought that view was a lot better. No, we're here. It seems difficult with the plastic over it. Ready? Yes. Let's try again, shall we? Alright, let's do that again. Ready? Get over there. Alright, you want to get around? Ready? It's activated. That's so weird. Alright. Alright, let's do it again. Slip. Alright, slip. Ready? See? I need velocity. Ah, you can see guys, this stuff is like really not... it's kind of janky. My balls are making it! Ugh, can't even get the ball to come through the scoop. Nice, Nick. Alright, ready? And he did it. The funny part about it though, is like as I was showing, when the ball has any velocity... The lab of electricity is closed! Alright, one more time. So, I mean, you saw that, right? It's not... It not this sort of game over go You didn last long The ending has ended and you are no further ahead than last time You might see the look of disappointment on my face right now, right? That Magna Save, right? Look at it. It's like, it doesn't really work. And it doesn't work anywhere near as effective as the Tales of the Arabian Nights shooting stars that come up. And again, the reason why is I think John designed all this stuff, like simply rolling a ball around like a piece of wood with a magnet underneath, and he got this cool effect, but when you actually add in the velocity of a normal pinball game where the ball's going back and forth really strong, there's no way that can catch the ball. There's no way. So I guess the only time you can use it if the ball is slowly bouncing around that area, but even you saw there, when the magnet grabs it, most of the times it just threw it into the out lane. So it's not really like a save. At least it works, though. I'll say this. There's all these magnets, and none of them work. At least that one activates. So let's show you guys now how that vertical up kick works in reversal, and we'll see where my plastic got broken. All right. So ready? You can drop it in there. Watch this. Reverso. See the way it shoots it up? Watch this. Reverso. You can see how it hits the plastic. Right where it broke is where it often hits. Reverso. Alright. Alright. A few other things here. So, this center post is activated with this switch here. It's a really hard switch. Alright. Hard switch to hit. All right. Now I'm going to try and get you guys to see where it says Magnaflip. It just takes a few hits up the center. This might take a little bit, but bear with me. We're going to see a screen on that screen we've never seen before. So get ready. I'm sorry. What do you mean? The television is moving! 14 cents. 15. 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. So, you guys notice that? Look at that. So that's the song. This is stuck on 1 million ball save. So something is weird with the software, it's like stuck on this. So I'm gonna reset real quick. Brendan's gonna kill me. But, look it's stuck! Like that screen is just stuck up there. 1 million ball save. I can get that one in the car It like overall story How do you reset it? Just turn it off? Oh, Jesus. So Brenda's going to kill me. But it was stuck on this weird one million ball save. So there's clearly a software glitch. Mm-hmm. I know how long we record just like just you know 13 minutes 13 minutes All right, so we're trying to do this quickly guys. I want to show you the magnet flip screen So no one's gonna watch it. Yeah, they're gonna stay they're gonna watch they're gonna watch. It's like the most riveting video ever So just stay at that angle Brenda doing the screening if you can hold it. Mm-hmm, and I'll just quickly do this Guys can see the Buddha Alright. He's ready! Yeah, there it is. Now, when we drop the ball into this magnet flip area, there's no way to use these magnet flips. It's like I can't activate them. But that's a screen. That was it? That was it? Yep. That was it? That was it? Yep. We'll play this part after. So we saw more of the machine. You know, I don't know if it's ever going to be fully functioning. I've got to be honest. There's a lot of just like geometry things that just don't work. A lot of interesting ideas. Game's still fun to flip. I really hope the owners of this machine can buy replacement parts soon. I mean, it's key that people who spend all this money can have some peace of mind and get like replacement plastics, replacement playfield. And, you know, I don't know. I think for this thing to become fully functioning, as you saw, I hit the ramp a bunch of times in a row. The ramps were really satisfying to shot. All John needed to do was have this really cool ramp feature and just have the ball lock somewhere else. The way he had the ball lock in Toten, just have the ball lock back in this upper right area somewhere. Nothing happens back here. It's just mind-boggling that he spent so much time and just couldn't figure out how to lock two balls and then have a multiball start. If that can happen, the music's there, the sound's there, the call-outs are there, the light show's there. the package is there but there's just some stuff missing so we'll get that ramp fixed eventually hit me up with any questions in the comments guys but thanks for sticking this out I know this was a long video but you got to see some stuff you've never seen before in Magic Girl we'll talk to you soon have a good day