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Fresh Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·1h 7m·analyzed·Jul 14, 2026
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TL;DR

Hosts discuss adaptive pinball controllers, cruise ship machines, and Sonic distribution.

Summary

Fresh A Pinball Podcast 6 Episode 2 features hosts Jeff, Corbin Angeli, Zach Angeli, and Kyle discussing various pinball industry topics including adaptive controller installations at Camp Promise, cruise ship pinball pricing, Barrels of Fun's pinball-at-sea initiative, and Sonic pinball machine distribution across regional venues. The episode includes extended tangents about gas stations, amusement parks, and streaming documentaries.

Key Claims

  • Camp Promise spent two years trying to find someone to install adaptive pinball controllers at their locations across the country before reaching out to the hosts' organization

    high confidence · Corbin Angeli, discussing Camp Promise coordination. Direct statement: 'She said she's tried for a couple of years. Two years. In two years, she had tried to find someone to do this.'

  • A Stranger Things (Pro) on an Antonio cruise ship was priced at $2.50 per play, charged via ship card

    high confidence · Jeff describing personal experience on cruise. 'You scan the card. How many drinks was it for a game? Gotta put in some drink tickets. And then it just goes on your bill for the ship.'

  • Sonic pinball was at TimberBeast Axe Throwing in Barberton and is moving to Sweeper City

    high confidence · Jeff and Kyle discussing Sonic location rotation. 'So that will be, yeah, so by the time I get this posted it'll be gone.'

  • Adaptive controller setup uses alligator clips hooked to leaf switches with Cat5 connection to a controller about soup-can-sized

    high confidence · Corbin describing technical specifications. 'All it is is it hooks in on the inside. It's like little alligator clips that are hooked to the leaf switches basically.'

  • Antonio Cruz cruise ship had approximately 4,000 passengers and 2,000 crew members

    medium confidence · Jeff recounting cruise experience. 'The one that I was on a few weeks ago was like 4, 000 people and there were 2, 000 crew.'

  • Barrels of Fun announced a pinball-at-sea cruise partnership requiring membership in their fan club

    high confidence · Jeff discussing Barrels of Fun cruise. 'You have to be a part of the whatever fan club or whatever. The buffers. But then the actual Antonio Cruz is like the same price as a normal Antonio Cruz.'

  • Sonic arcade editions have been distributed to Kid Force (Berea), Pinball Planet (Parma), and Victory Pointe Arcade (Pittsburgh)

    high confidence · Jeff discussing Sonic distribution. 'They have one now at Pinball Planet in Parma... A CE, you said, was headed out to Victory Pointe Arcade in Pittsburgh.'

Notable Quotes

  • “Nothing is Junkyard. Junkyard is Junkyard.”

    Jeff @ 0:00-0:30 — Expresses frustration with community tendency to compare new machines to the classic Junkyard design; signals potential sentiment about design originality discourse

  • “Just because it's older classic doesn't mean it's fucking good.”

    Jeff @ ~4:00 — Commentary on historical/classic amusement parks and nostalgia bias; humorous but reflects broader attitude toward legacy appeal

  • “Could we just record every week? Is that possible?... I'd like to see you guys every week. I don't know if I want to talk to these people every week, though.”

    [name withheld pending review] @ ~2:30 — Indicates listener demand for increased podcast frequency; reflects growing audience engagement

  • “If you don't want to go, don't go. But there are going to be people.”

    Jeff @ ~50:00 — Pragmatic take on Barrels of Fun cruise controversy; dismisses online complaints about the initiative

  • “He's always been there, dude. Right? He's just, you didn't, I didn't know that he was back there just working on games. Somewhere in a corner. Just wrenching on a game.”

    Jeff @ ~55:00 — Anecdotal reference to Butch Piel's consistent presence at pinball events; suggests well-known but understated industry figure

Entities

JeffpersonCorbin AngelipersonZach AngelipersonKylepersonCamp PromiseorganizationAdaptive GameworkscompanyBarrels of FuncompanyButch PielpersonStranger Thingsgame

Signals

  • ?

    community_signal: Coordinated effort by pinball operator to provide adaptive controller access at Camp Promise, addressing two-year gap in accessible gaming provision across the country

    high · Camp Promise coordinator unable to find providers for two years; hosts installed six machines with adaptive controllers; anecdote of cruise passenger with cerebral palsy unable to play without adaptation

  • ?

    operational_signal: Sonic arcade edition undergoing rapid location rotation across Ohio and Pennsylvania venues (Timber Beast, Kid Force, Pinball Planet, Victory Point, Sweeper City), suggesting promotional distribution strategy or route testing

    high · Multiple venues mentioned receiving Sonic in short timeframe; Timber Beast specified as temporary location; movement coordinated by hosts/operators

  • $

    market_signal: Cruise ship pinball priced at $2.50 per play via integrated ship card billing, significantly higher than typical bar/arcade pricing; community discussion indicates tolerance variance by venue context

    high · Jeff paying $2.50 on cruise; social media response negative; hosts discuss acceptable pricing tiers ($0.50-$1.00 standard, $1.00+ acceptable for premium venues)

  • ?

    product_strategy: Barrels of Fun announced pinball-at-sea cruise partnership requiring fan club membership; generating community debate about pricing, accessibility, and value proposition

    high · Cruise event announced; requires Barrels of Fun fan club membership; pricing approximately $1,600 for interior cabin; internet backlash on messaging boards; hosts discussing community reception

  • ?

Transcript

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0:00
Welcome everyone to season six, Episode 2, maybe, of the Fresh Pinball Podcast. Maybe. It's a possibility. It's possible. It's possible. Could be a time jump. Could be a time loop. Could be a black hole. Could be going back. Time warp. Could be a vortex. Could be... A tornado. Something, something, something. Time tornado. Time machine from Junkyard.
0:52
I'm tired of hearing people comparing everything to Junkyard recently. Because nothing is Junkyard. Junkyard is Junkyard. So Time Warp has the banana flippers. Sonic comes out and people are like, you know what that upper playfield reminds me of? Reminds me of Junkyard. I'm like, that upper playfield is just the Dr. Robotnik thing or the Meowth on Pokemon. They're like, oh, that's just like the wrecking ball on Junkyard. I'm like, really? Is it really? In the V, the V targets. I think that's what they're looking at. I think that's what the similarity is. I know what they're looking at. There's nothing on Sonic. I guess that little other thing does come out on Sonic. I'm looking at some cloudy plastics when I'm looking at it. I don't know. I haven't played Sonic yet. I can't say. Reminds me of a junkyard. Reminds me of a lower play field on ACDC.
1:40
Season 6, episode 2. Let me introduce everyone here. I'm going to start to my left. I'm going to throw this off. We're going to go counterclockwise. To my left, Mr. Corbin Angeli. How are we doing, buddy? Doing good. Doing good. Excited to record this super fresh episode of the podcast? It's been too long. Yeah, we're getting requests. A lot of people are asking. Could we just record every week? Is that possible? Would that be too much? It's possible. It's possible. If the stars align. I feel like I'd like to see you guys every week. I'd like to see you every week, too. I don't know if I want to talk to these people every week, though. No.
2:17

  • Camp Promise set up six solid games with two adaptive controllers from Adaptive Gameworks, plus four controllers they obtained separately

    high confidence · Corbin describing setup. 'We got them six games... We got two from them, and then they had gotten four from them. So we had one for each game.'

    • Sonic
    game
    TimberBeast Axe Throwingvenue
    Pinball Planetvenue
    Kid Forcevenue
    Victory Pointe Arcadevenue
    Our Lady of Perpetual Hopsvenue
    Glitch Barvenue
    Sweeper Cityvenue
    Aerosmithgame
    Star Wars Fall of the Empiregame
    Turtles LEgame
    Hot Wheelsgame
    Jurassic Parkgame
    David Rowlandperson

    venue_signal: Pinball Planet relocated to new plaza location in Parma with poor signage visibility; hosts note difficulty finding venue; indicates growing but challenging arcade market expansion

    high · Jeff noting 'hard to find', 'no sign', 'weird plaza'; Corbin confirming new location visit; reference to signage challenges impacting walk-in traffic

  • ?

    content_signal: Fresh Pinball Podcast receiving listener requests for weekly episodes; indicates growing audience demand and engagement

    medium · Corbin: 'We're getting requests. A lot of people are asking. Could we just record every week?'

  • ?

    design_innovation: Adaptive controller hardware (alligator clips to leaf switches, Cat5 connection) enabling single-hand operation for wheelchair users; represents growing accessibility-focused design in pinball

    high · Detailed technical description of controller mechanism; application at Camp Promise; anecdote of cruise passenger with cerebral palsy discovering technology

  • ?

    industry_signal: Reference to Butch Piel as consistent behind-the-scenes technician at pinball events; speculation about potential roles (e.g., cruise ship technical support for Barrels of Fun event)

    medium · Anecdotal reference to Piel's presence at Pinbrew events; joking mention of him potentially being brought on cruise to fix machines; described as always working in background

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Host frustration with community's tendency to compare new machines (Time Warp, Sonic) to Junkyard design; signals potential discourse about derivative design and originality in pinball community

    medium · Jeff opening: 'I'm tired of hearing people comparing everything to Junkyard recently. Because nothing is Junkyard. Junkyard is Junkyard.'

  • ?

    event_signal: Barrels of Fun hosting first-of-kind pinball-focused cruise event; represents novel marketing/community engagement strategy for manufacturer; generating significant online discussion and mixed reception

    high · Event announced; fan club requirement; social media threads 'blew up' with criticism about cost and logistics; comparison drawn to Pinball at the Beach model

  • ?

    product_launch: Sonic pinball machine transitioning from showcase venues to arcade locations with both arcade and CE editions being distributed regionally

    high · Multiple location placements: Kid Force (Berea), Pinball Planet (Parma), Victory Point (Pittsburgh); CE variants being placed; temporal rotation from Timber Beast

  • ?

    business_signal: Operators establishing connections with service providers and venues for game placement and maintenance; Camp Promise experience indicates broader opportunity for adaptive gaming partnerships

    medium · Camp Promise seeking providers nationally; hosts establishing repeatable model; plans to offer featured machine program at location venues; intent to share controllers across interested groups

    • All right. And across from me, Zach Angeli. How we doing, buddy? I'm flipping fantastic. How you doing, Jeff? I'm feeling good. Second episode in a row I'm full of pizza. I think we need to keep this whole like, maybe we can't do this every week because if I was eating this much pizza. It's a lot of pizza. Yeah, that might be a problem. It's good pizza though. All right. I'm going to think this through. And to my right on the board, Mr. Kyle. How we doing buddy? I'm doing well. How are you Jeff? I'm doing great. I'm excited. Very excited. Excited to be here with you guys. Excited to catch up. Excited to hear all the things that I've missed over the last period of time. Corbin looks very, very... Do you need help, buddy? Need some volume? I just can't hear anything in my head.
    2:58
    That's mine. That's mine. That's loud. We'll see. We'll set them up right now. We'll always see the four goes the four, right? Oh, there we go. You got some? Yeah, I can hear now.
    3:08
    Thank you. I wanted to start this episode with a very, very brief fact check that now Corbin can hear. Yeah. So the first one was that I've been getting beaten up on for a while is apparently on the last episode I've been hearing from several people that I disparaged the amusement park Kennywood.
    3:30
    And I just want to take a moment to formally apologize to the people of Pittsburgh, the people of Kennywood. It's an absolutely great reference point as well because if you're trying to get to the church arcade, if you put that into the GPS, it doesn't pop up necessarily. But if you put Kennywood in, it'll get you right there. Right. So if you Google shitty Pittsburgh area amusement park, it's going to pop right up for you. Exactly. Shitty Shitsburg area. People are going to know exactly. It's going to be like, oh, I know where you're going. Anyway, I've been to Kennywood, a brief, anyone who hasn't. Did you go and have some popcorn? No. No popcorn at Kennywood. Is it supposed to be really good or something? I don't know. Oh. The way you brought it up. I'm sure the fuck wasn't Pringles.
    4:15
    Yeah. Jeff, how dare you? I told you that in confidence. Icy light pop. Yeah, icy light. Google describes Kennywood as a historic amusement park in West Mifflin, Pennsylvania, known for its mix of classic and modern rides, including iconic wooden roller coasters like... Once it's passed a certain age, is it just called classic? Is that like the description?
    4:38
    They're like... Rustic. So you have Fathom Classic and then you have Fathom Mermaid Edition? Revisited. That's the one they've done a little work to. Coasters like Jackrabbit, Racer, and Thunderbolt alongside modern thrill sides like Steel Curtain.
    4:57
    1982. So, it is a National Historic Landmark. Alright, it's... I have news though. Just because it's older classic doesn't mean it's fucking good.
    5:07
    I just wanted to put it out there. Is there any better roller coaster spots in Chittsburg? I don't know. I mean, you need to come to Ohio if you want to go to a real throw park. I mean, we have Cedar Point, we have Kings Island, like... Pushcart.
    5:26
    Puddin' Bay. I don't write a shit. You want a good swim-up bar, come to Puddin' Bay. No idea. That's my formal apology for disparaging Kennywood. I'll have to go back for a third time and find some redeeming qualities that I must have missed the first two times that I was there. There's still Giago Lake, right? No, Giago Lake. No, Shamu, he vamoosed in there is no more. He's fucked right over the wall. He's just gone. I'm out of here, suckers. Gonzo. I think they made a movie about it. I think it's a data center. It's a data center.
    6:00
    Man, I saw pictures of them tearing apart a pit race. It was sad. Fucking data centers. Somebody's got to generate these pictures that I'm trying to post for the social media. Man, it's going to terminate us. I guess so. I've all seen it. Skynet's coming for us. I've seen T2. So in the last episode we talked about some Wally's, some Bucky's, some roadside attraction gas stations and whatnot, and then this week, this week that we're in? No, this past week, Zach and Corbin went to Indianapolis, and on their way back they stopped at the new Bucky's in Huber Heights? That's right. It's like – It was that or the Uranus Fudge Factory or whatever. That was the other one he wanted to stop at. But that is just – They had lots of signs. That was just east of Dayton, head back towards Columbus.
    6:52
    It was right off the interway, interparkway. And what were your takeaways, Zach? This was your first. It was something. That was for sure. I felt like it was unnecessary with the amount of clothing and stuff for sale at a gas station. But we checked out the snacks. We had some brisket sandwiches. We had some meat sandwiches. It was good. It's not one of those ones where it's a quick on, quick off. Like, I'm just going to hop off, I'm going to fuel up the truck, I'm going to use the facilities, and then we're out of here. It's more of like a whole... Yeah, I mean, which was nice to get out for a minute since that was a whole lot of driving we were doing. And I wouldn't make it like, go on my way to find one, but if there was one there, I'd stop again. Did you look at the jerky?
    7:35
    Yeah. They didn't have anything comparable to like what you... I don't know. We looked. That's the standard now. I know, right? There's no coins.
    7:43
    So on the last episode, I had mentioned Wally's as one that I had been driving past on the way back from TPF, but I didn't stop. Well, since then, when Norn and I went to Chicago, we stopped at the Wally's in Pontiac, Illinois. And it is very much, like, themed after, it felt like the moose from Lampoon's Vacation. It has that vibe, all the signage, all the whatever. It's like a B-minus Bucky sort of situation, a lower grade. Did they have a vacation pinball? There was no pinball. They got a fried bologna sandwich instead. I had an epic fish sandwich from Wally's, and I think their signature there was they had an actual movie theater popcorn popper, and they were popping all kinds of different popcorns, which I can always get behind. So in college we had a Wally's also, a Wally's filling station, but it was this like locally owned guy, you get 10 wings and a medium pizza for $10. All day. And we lived off of it. All day. Yeah, no, I could see that for sure. The gas station. Fast times. Hey man, it was on the corner, we could walk down. Fast times Daly Mart.
    8:57
    So I've done some Wally's. Up here on the, I remember it. I'm more of a Dairy Mart kind of guy. Dairy Mart. You know we got that sign. Oh, I'm sure. Big one. No doubt about that. But he doesn't like Lawson's chip dip. No, that's fine. I'm just a superior kind of guy. Superior. Just putting it out there. Still make Lawson's chip dip exclusively for Circle Pins. I used to go to Fisher Foods and buy my superior chip dip and my Snyder Ballin Ripples. How's Fisher's Food's doing? It's not doing great. It's close. It's not going great. Could be better. I went to the gas station down the road here on the way. When did they put that fucking car wash in? That was a Rite Aid before, wasn't it? Yeah, I realized. Oh, yeah. Very bizarre. Yeah, I guess I came out the other way. Which one? Dude, Rite Aid, right? You know, where Speedway is. Across from Adams, new places. Family Video used to be. Easton and Mail Branch. I saw they were putting one in there. Yeah, it's a car wash. It's a random building. Very bizarre.
    9:56
    We're going to slap this car wash in the CVS. So to paint the picture here is, yes, they took a... Corner Lot CVS. They closed pharmacy and turned it, instead of just tearing it down and building a car wash, they renovated. But they may drive through with all the shop vacs outside. Very bizarre. And they built this huge weird retaining wall that wasn't there whatsoever. There must have been some sort of building code or permitting or something. Maybe zoning. It's all zone B2. Yeah, so that's plain. Can't trust them. Because the trustee building is like, what, two places down? I wish I knew somebody on the zoning board of Plain Township that could give me some answers. Yeah, right? You do. It's a good thing she's not on the city of Canton zoning board. It's a good thing that she's not listening to this.
    10:45
    Next up, I wanted to cover, we had posted on the MAD Pinball social media, Corbin, something that you'd help coordinate was the Camp Promise. The adaptive controllers and all that. And people were asking me a bunch of questions about it and I had no clue. So that was a funny day. Oh yeah, so we did that. Talk about it. Yeah, so it was a cool thing. It was Camp Promise. It was at the Akron Rotary Camp. They bought this place like back in the 20s or whatever. It's a pretty cool piece of land. Pretty cool piece of land right on the Portage Lakes. They had a dock, you know, multiple spots right there. The cabins are right there. It's pretty laid out. But anyway, it's this camp. They do it across the country in these different spots. They can't find anyone else to help them, they said. Yeah, one of the craziest parts about it was they can't. So what we ended up doing was we. You laid them out. We got them six games. We got them six solid games.
    11:38
    And then we had two controllers. We bought two of the controllers from the, what were they, like a primary concept? No. It was like Adaptive Gameworks or something like that? Yeah, I'll look it up in here in a second. But yeah, no. So we got two from them, and then they had gotten four from them. So we had one for each game. And they basically just hooked into the flippers and the action button so that then they could, you know, people in wheelchairs could sit there and, you know, play. I think I've never seen that at Expo or something. I've definitely seen it at Expo before. Definitely at Expo. So you had Aerosmith Premium, Star Wars Fall of the Empire, that looks like a premium, Turtles LE, Hot Wheels, Stranger Things Premium, Jurassic Park Premium. Man, you laid them out for sure. Yeah. Yeah, they had a solid lineup. They had a good lineup. We thought about O'Vara, but then we were like, I don't know if you might get weird about that. Like, I'm excited. They said they had an awesome time. The guys from the controller company were super cool. They were really helpful with it. But the crazy thing was they can't find anybody to get them games at any of these other places around the country and then install the controllers. She said she's tried for a couple of years. Two years. In two years, she had tried to find someone to do this. How did they find you? I don't remember.
    12:51
    Was it through Lakewood? That wasn't Lakewood. Interesting. I was just curious. Yeah, no, I'll have to look back through. I don't remember how they originally found us.
    13:00
    But anyways. Anyways, yeah, so we'll definitely deal with her again. We're trying to leave this place, though. She's going to let us know the other locations around the country, so maybe if we know anybody we can try to link them up and we can ship them the controllers. Because then I just have all six of the controllers now to use. And we were talking about, we might try to do, I don't know, like a quarter up or a finney's or somewhere, have a game. A feature game of the month. One game a month that we have the adapter controller. So all it is is it hooks in on the inside. It's like little alligator clips that are hooked to the leaf switches basically. And then it has a Cat5 port on the front that then runs to your controller so you can just disconnect it and it goes in either the DVA plate or the tournament button on the new. So the beauty of something like this is if you're in a wheelchair and you really only have full use or even partial use of one hand, And both of the flipper buttons and the action button are right there to where one hand can manipulate all of the buttons for the flippers and all of that stuff. The controller is like, I don't know, a little bit bigger than like a can, I would say. Pop can. Yeah. Like a little bit bigger. Definitely bigger, like soup can size. Yeah. So coincidentally, shortly after you were doing that, then I was on vacation on a cruise ship and they had one Stranger Things Pro. And of course I was playing it and a guy came up on a wheelchair that had cerebral palsy and we were talking about pinball and whatever else. And I was describing to him and showing him these controllers and his mind was like blown like this thing exists because he has a Ghostbusters, I think he said. And it's like almost like he can watch people play, but he can't play. He needs one of those for sure. Yeah. So I thought that was pretty cool. Yeah, it's a very definitely cool thing. So then we dropped them off. They had them for a couple days. We picked them up. So we went to pick them up, and we get back there. We back up into our spot. We get loaded. We get it all loaded, and we're getting ready to roll. And it's like one of those days where it's like 90 degrees plus out. Cement mixer backs into the telephone pole, and it's in the peninsula area. That's where that was. And there was literally no way out. Yeah, we were down in the Porridge Lakes, so it was a dead end. Incident, the police show up, the fire department shows up, no one wants to move it until the electric company gets out because it's laying on the fucking thing. There's like three other cement trucks on the dead inside like coming down. They're like, get back in here, dude. Is this the day you needed to get to Timber Beast? Yeah. And Frank and Winnie's like, the game's broken. It's like, dude, I don't even have fucking time for you. Anyway, it's just like these games are breaking. But yeah, no, so we got stuck down there. It was ridiculous. An hour and 20 minutes, I think. Oh, that's not awful for a electric car. No. It could have been way worse. No. I've waited longer than that for AAA.
    15:50
    Yeah. So we got out of there, but luckily what happened was this mint guy just decided to pull out, and so he just pulled the truck up and nothing moved, and then before the electric company got there, so we slid out then. The cop just waved us through. He was like, come on. He's like, all right, good. We're getting while the getting's good. It was like an hour and a half we sat there. We ran in a tank at a bar beforehand, though. We did, too, because we were up there a little earlier. We're like, oh, we'll stop and get some nachos or something. And we're like, that's Tank's car. So we went in and we're like, look, there he is. Yep. The upper deck.
    16:25
    Real random. It is. But I thought I would share that. Yeah, it's a very cool thing. I've seen some things before at events and whatever else, but I liked the concept and the idea of what you were talking about of doing at a location or two of having a featured machine and then, you know, obviously sharing it out into the groups that could kind of perpetuate. I think it a real opportunity for everyone to enjoy something that we kind of take for granted that we can play and enjoy whenever we want But I had posted while I was on the cruise the Stranger Things Pro and it was well per game technically How they landed on that price, I don't know. Was it in good, like, was it clean, good playing? Yeah, I mean, it wasn't like the best playing. Like it was a little tired, but it played as it should. You know, I could do everything it needed to do. There was nothing crazy going on. There weren't any broken plastics or rubbers or anything on the playfield.
    17:30
    But people were losing their minds that I would pay $2.50 a game to play pinball. So my question to each of you, and Kyle, I'll start with you. No. No? If you were at a random bar with Amy and there's a... We would have went to a better bar. And there's a riverboat gambler back in the corner. Oh, yeah. 50 cents a game or whatever. Yeah, yeah, 50 cents. What's your number? Is this a dollar the most? It feels like so many people are stuck on this. Well, this era, I'll never pay more than 50 cents. This era, I'll never pay more than 75. No, it's a dollar a play. Okay. I'm worried with a dollar a play. For a riverboat gambler? Yeah, dude. Sure. Yeah, yeah, that's fine. I would pay a dollar. I have no problem at a dollar. Dude, if you're in a random bar for a dollar, yeah, not $2.50 or $2.47 or whatever. Really? So if you were in the ocean, there's no other options, and like, well, probably, who gives a shit? There's not an option because I'm going to get fucking seasick. I'm not going on a cruise. Okay, well. I would never be in the situation to pay $2.50 on a cruise ship. If I was on a cruise ship, it's my only place to pay a ball. I was somehow held hostage by one of you on a cruise ship. I would let you put 250 in it. I would play it. So this was hooked up with like... He would let one of us put it in. Of course he would. Jeff's got to PayPal it every time he wants to play. So obviously they're not running tokens through here. They're not running coins through here. They have it actually hooked up to like your ship card. So the card that you use to buy everything else. Sorry about your drinks, Tia. Yeah, drinks, whatever else. You scan the card. How many drinks was it for a game? Gotta put in some drink tickets. And then it just goes on your bill for the ship, which I thought was very interesting. That makes it easy. Yeah, that's why it's $2.50. Maybe, I don't know. Because, like, you know, so much goes to the ship, so much goes to the operator, so much goes to the... Did you see the games that were on the ship? Yeah, I saw a bunch of them. So they had, like, these crazy Papa shots. There were, like, a lot of this Unisys stuff. But they also had some of the... They had the Quickshot that you had. And then also from JetGames. I'd never seen this kart racer before, which was almost like a faux simulator sort of situation, but these dart machines are jet.
    19:50
    Those are wild looking. Interesting. Yeah. So you feel like there's no difference playing pinball if there's rough seas? I wanted to bring that up because obviously Barrels of Fun announced their whole pinball at sea sort of thing, and I know a lot of details are still going to be worked out. And those threads just blew up of people that were like crying about how expensive something was or, you know, with the boats moving and whatever. Seven fucking days, man. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The ship, it's seven days. It's a seven day cruise. This is a long cruise. I've never done that in my life. I never even thought of it. Have you ever done that long of a one? Oh my God, yeah. Yeah, they've done too much.
    20:29
    You know my feeling on the whole situation. I know, I didn't know people do it for like a week. They don't go off the boat at all? Yeah, they do. They do. Are they like serving in the Navy?
    20:38
    All right. Young man. You ready to have your mind blown? I don't know. They do these cruises that are called world cruises where you're on the boat for like months. No. Like you travel around. What's that cost? What's that? Do you use sails? It's not tall ships. It's a Titanic, bro. You're not working on the ship. It's like the cruise I went on. It takes months? You went on one of these? No, no. It's like he wants to go on one.
    21:06
    So these ones you're doing now are kind of like you're training. It's like an Olympic athlete. You do a couple 5Ks. My in-laws before have done like three week ones before. What are you talking about? That seems like a long time. It's insane. I wish I could take pinball the whole time. I won't be able to take three weeks off in a row until I'm fucking dead. Yeah. But to answer your question, Zach. Yeah. Like the stabilizers and everything that's on the boat. I mean, I guess if I was like a top flight amazing player, I might be able to notice that there's some whatever going on. What's the tilt like on a pre-lose? Oh, yeah. I mean, I was throwing this thing. I was throwing this thing around like Rob Fowler style. I mean, it was getting crazy. But just listening to everyone crying on the Internet about this barrels of fun thing, it's like, if you don't want to go, don't go. But there are going to be people. Are people going, you think? Are you going? So it's something that, like, I am not going. We were at a pool party and somebody was like, we were talking about it and they're like, yeah, wait till you see what Jeff volunteered you for. Right? You're going to be taking some games down there? You think they're going to make Butch Piel go so they can fix the game? Oh, absolutely. He's just going to be hanging out looking cool doing his thing. So you want to hear a small sidebar here. I was looking for content the other day through my pictures and sometimes I'll just scroll back like three years or four years or whatever amount of time to a random date and then I'll find a picture and then I'll post it. And it was one from the second Pinbrew, and in the background Butch Peel was working on a game. I'm like, son of a bitch, there he is. He's always been there, dude. Right? He's just, you didn't, I didn't know that he was back there just working on games. Somewhere in a corner. Pinball show near you. Just wrenching on a game.
    22:49
    But yeah, I think it'll be, I think they'll get a lot of people. I mean, it's one of those things, I almost align it with Pinball at the Beach of where easy sell for the family and whatever else. So you're going to go. No, I'm not going to go. I don't know. We're recording you right now just so you know. Okay, there's a possibility. Always a possibility. There's always a possibility. You going to TPF? Nope. Where do you go? Oh, I'm at TPF. Not going to sell that Deadpool. That Deadpool, next day, gone. Who knows what the next day will bring. But the coincidental or funny part of it is Tia had brought this up to me before of like, Hey, because there's Glitch Bars in Fort Lauderdale, which is a really cool retro arcade and pin bar. And she's like, well, what if we did like a block of rooms and beforehand you have a tournament at Glitch Bar. You make sure there are a couple machines on the boat that people can play and then you do something else on the back end. I'm like, oh, yeah, that'd be cool. I'm sure a few people would want to go or whatever. And then they announce this thing. I'm like, oh, awesome. So it sounds like Barrels of Fun gets to try to figure out how to coordinate all of this. So I'll definitely be interested to see how it all goes, how many people go, and all that fun stuff. But I think it is like a pinball at the beach sort of situation. Is it a limited ticket thing? I don't know. You know how barrels of fun is. From what I read and heard or whatever, it's like... I mean, the boats are pretty big. You have to be a part of the whatever fan club or whatever. The buffers. But then the actual cruise is like the same price as a normal cruise. A couple hundred bucks or a thousand bucks. It was like $1,600 for two people for an interior room, I think. Yeah. That's about right. But then you have to get to Galveston. That's like the ones who, if the ship's going down, probably. They lock the doors on you, yeah. I mean, you've got to spend a few hours shoveling coal and, you know. And you still have to pay them. Yeah, of course. That's kind of cool. Come on. You guys know how this works. Experience. Can't say. Never been on a cruise. So, all right. How many people do you think passengers are on a cruise ship? Big Mac Daddy, mid-sized one. That one's probably 7,000 people. Yeah, the big ones were like 7,000 people. The Boffert one is going to be 7,000. So the one that I was on a few weeks ago was like 4,000 people and there were 2,000 crew, which blows my mind. 2,000 crew, that's insane. Are they on paddles or what? I don't know where they put everyone.
    25:10
    Because usually... There's tunnels everywhere. There's got to be something because usually the public areas are all the way down to like the fourth deck of the ship and then, you know, three, two and one are, I don't know what's going on down there. It's like a city. It's got to be. Yeah. Sure beds and stuff. You down there, it's just like Sin City. It's all black and white. I bet there are. It's like Norah. Below Dex. I've been watching some crazy, worst neighbors documentaries. Have you seen those on Netflix?
    25:40
    You go ahead and then I will tell you mine. Did you watch any of it? I saw the one where it was in Florida. The lady kept calling the cops on these. She basically lived in the projects, and these people were playing in this green space. These kids are out playing football and doing whatever, and she kept calling the cops. And then she ended up freaking shooting and killing a lady. What? Did you see that one? Yeah, I did. It's insane. Not to talk politics or whatever, but it's one of these things where it's like this woman was white that did the shooting. And like they like if this had been a Hispanic person, a black person, whatever, like they would have been in prison in five seconds. Like they treated this lady like she was a royalty. Like, yeah, it's all just wild. She was probably on the city council down there. She's all I'm trying to say is people are crazy. That's all I was going to say. The show is just like, man, these people are nuts out there. There's crazy people out there.
    26:35
    All right. Sidebar to the sidebar to the sidebar. Talking about shows. You said that you and Anna had gotten deep into F1. Oh, yeah. So when we were in Boston, there was a bar there that was an F1 bar. Are you aware of these? No, no, no, no. So obviously on race day, they do all the race stuff and whatever, and it's a big deal. But then they also have full F1 car simulators, and you could pay for a package of races, and you're surrounded by these big, huge TVs and the things. Is that like what went up in Lakewood? Did you see one win in where Melt used to be? I was just going to say. You think it's like that kind of thing? That one isn't as one percent. But it's the same kind of a concept where you're simulating a car. It looked interesting. We had some time, and I almost had Tia convinced to go, and then we ended up going somewhere else instead. But if I ever have the opportunity again, I definitely want to try it. Did you have to get another Build-A-Bear?
    27:31
    Had to get its heart started. Now we actually ended up going to a different arcade bar place that kind of ended up being pretty sucky but was in an area of other things that we wanted to do instead. But you had touched on Sonic and talked about it being at Timber Beast in Barberton. Until it's leaving there because it's got to go to the Sweeper City. Right.
    27:58
    So that will be, yeah, so by the time I get this posted it'll be gone. Yeah. But it was there. We got it a couple weeks ago. You just told me you text Jason now and he'll hound you and you'll have it posted tomorrow. But you have since dropped an arcade edition off at Kid Force in Berea. Yeah. They have one now at Pinball Planet in Parma. Which that was the first time I've been to the new place when I dropped it off there. I have not been. It's hard to find. Was it? There's no sign. Is it in a plaza? Yeah, it's in a plaza. It's a weird plaza, but I found it. It was my hardest thing to quarter up for a long time, too. It was like the lack of signage. You know what, honestly, if I didn't know a quarter-up, it would be about the same. Yeah, it has very lack of science. But it's, you know, they've got a lot of games squeezed in there. And then a CE, you said, was headed out to Victory Point in Pittsburgh. Tomorrow morning I'm running it over there. He's also dropping off his Transformers LE. Nice. And then one went to David Rowland, and did he put that at Our Lady of Perpetual Hops? I'm not sure what he's doing with it. I'll have to check in with him and see where he was going to put it. But they're starting to get out and about out there, which is cool to see that some of the arcades were right off the rip being prioritized for locations and the CEs. The CEs are the only ones we haven't seen yet. That's what I thought. That's exactly what I was just going to ask. I was curious about this week because it's just been so sporadic. There's been no just lead up other than, hey, you got three. Send a label. I had a feeling that something like that was coming, though, whenever they specifically asked about locations. You called out when you were saying, hey, these are how many we want, these are for locations, and then they came back and said, which ones are for locations? See the first email that I sent? Telling you? Yeah, yeah. It's whatever. No, it's good to see because I think it only helps. It's smart. Because I think it's a good game. The little bit I played on it, it seems like a fun game. It's pretty. And I think once people play, it's like the, what was the other one that came out? It helped immensely with Elton John. That's what I was thinking. I was like the same kind of a thing. Once people played it, they liked it a little more. Yeah. Even now people still seem to be like looking for that game. It seems like. Elton John? Oh, for sure. I saw, Kyle, you may have seen this post too. A guy had had one that he said it was quote unquote water damaged and he had taken the playfield out, Gotten a whole new cabinet for it and put the playfield and the electronics and whatever into this new cabinet. It was a platinum edition. I think he was still selling it for like $9,000 or $10,000. I did not see that. Yeah. Salvage title. That's what it felt like very much. Like, hey, I mean, at least he was honest with like the whole history of it. That's a deal with your salvage title. Yeah. So next topic or next item that I had here, Corbin, was actually a picture that you had posted just the other day of your champion pub that you're starting to go through. And you'd posted a picture of the jump rope mech. So talk about that a little bit. Yeah, it's just the plate where the ball basically when it, you know, top left corner champion pub kicks the ball up the spot where the ball lands. And that plate was just beat to shit. So the ball, it was starting to shoot it off into all kinds of directions and everything. I mean, it did only last 37 years. Yeah, in a good run.
    31:21
    No, yeah, no doubt, no doubt. So I've got the new plate. To me, it's one of those things, though. It's hitting real nice now. Yeah. I think you said that to the group chat or somebody showed it to Amy. She's like, well, what is it? And I explained it. And she's like, well, how old is the game? I was like, I don't know, it's from like 96. Yeah. She's like, oh. Yeah. It's one of those things to me, though, whenever you get the game from somebody and they're like, oh, yeah, you know, I went through it or I shopped it or I refurbished it. It's like no one's really taking it to not I shouldn't say no one. Most people aren't taking it to that level. They're probably going to pull some stuff off the top side. Yeah. You can't hit that jump rope shot. Right. Right. Because it's just it won't let you in it. You know, I put the new plate on it like a dozen on the first time I got out there for like two years now. Yeah, absolutely. I feel like it's the same sort of thing with any of that, whether it's that jump rope thing or whenever you got the shadow in, it was like, okay, well now we gotta get Zach and Keith to figure out how can we reman some of these parts because we need to get it done. Yeah, I still need to finish the... I feel like Jeff's trying to call me out on Champion Pub because I sold that to you. No, no, no, no. Some guy selling half-ass games. I rebuilt the flippers. I put the coral sleeves. Oh, okay, he rebuilt the flippers, Corwin. You were asking me if you think he did. I just think that's whenever you see any of these ads. I bet they are. There's a lot of flipping on that game.
    32:39
    On Champa? Yeah, it always had good money in it up there. Did you get that pulled out? Not yet. No. Negatory there, Pigpen.
    32:53
    But it's any time that this kind of segues into the whole Facebook or Pinside thing where one person's like, I completely shopped out this game or I refurbished this game or whatever. It's like it's all levels and it's not what your consideration of completely restoring something in someone else's is. I guess that's the question too of like what – there's not really – is there a standard of like what is considered? There's a shop, a topside. I like to – it's like topside, bottomside. You do like stage, stage one, stage two, stage three. Stage three plus. What's the issue of your deal?
    33:27
    There's just no standard for it because for some people I shopped at Means, I put rubbers on it and I put LEDs in it and I sent it. You wiped it off real nice. To somebody else, it's I went through and I repinned every connector and I... If it needs it. No, I'm just saying. You don't have to repin them if they don't need repin, Jeff. I agree. I understand that, I'm saying, but some people, like that's the level that they're taking us stuff. Like that motor dome that came through like very I do not want a shorter fucking harness in my game thank you Just let me do that Thank you Well they already trying to save every penny they can making them as short as they possibly can You probably don't want to shorten it. What I usually do is I at least replace all the coil sleeves, and when you're doing the coil sleeves, then you can inspect whatever. Sure. Exactly. Agreed. At the very least, coil sleeves are. Wipe everything down while you're in there. Yep. But then you'll have someone like Dave Sousa who will literally take every post and everything off and run it through the Tumblr. And the game comes out. That's why I love the ultrasonic. I say I ultrasonic my posts all the time. Yeah. I just buy you.
    34:34
    I'll take this. Clear ones. So a question I had asked you guys pre-podcast or started to at least kind of ties into the whole Pinside thing of someone had posted, hey, I was interested in this game. And the person hasn't responded in four days. I saw that. And they were losing their mind about this person not responding. So like a pin-side ad. Yes. So you say Corbin, Silverball, Mania, whatever has a Metallica Remastered Premium for sale. And they didn't say what it was, so I wondered if it was like that Primus that's been on there for like eight years. And they emailed you and you didn't respond for a day. You didn't respond for two days. You didn't respond for three days. You didn't respond for four days. And this person thought, I'm going to go to Facebook and I'm going to figure out blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. As someone who has been in pinball sales and involved in all that, I have very strong feelings on all of this. But it's like if you're just a regular person selling a game and it's on Pinside, I feel like there are a lot of hurdles there to where you can not know that someone even messaged you. Because it's my understanding that unless you have like Pinside Premium, you don't even get like notifications that someone emailed you. You literally have to like – I don't know. Is it like on a Facebook ad where it blocks out your number if you don't say it all? I'm not as familiar as some others. I've never sold a game on Pinterest. I only have the premium, so I don't know. You do have the premium? Yeah. Okay. Because it was my understanding of that. Because you can't do pictures. There's a lot of stuff you can't do. You know what I do? It's whatever, $5 a year. None of it. Yeah, that's fine. It's not much, yeah. Because it seemed like over the last couple years it's gotten more and more monetized on that side. It might not forward messages if you don't have the premium. That wouldn't surprise me. Then you'd have to be logged into the website to see it. But when you're on the website, it jumps in the top corner. For sure. A little envelope or whatever. You've got mail. Four days. I guess my opinion is... This seems like a long time. How long has the game... Maybe it was on Jeff's cruise. Maybe it's 4th of July weekend. How long has the game... I agree with you, but I guess how long has the game been for sale? So it's like, if he just listed it Friday morning and then he doesn't look at it for four days, that doesn't make any sense. But if it's been for sale for a couple months and he's not getting any bites on it, then I don't really think it's weird. Yeah, then maybe you've not even thought to check every day anymore. It all depends how avid of a Pinsider you are. Like I'm on Pinside once a day, so like I would notice it, but some people probably aren't. Most people probably aren't. It's one of those things where I think it's different whenever it's a Pinside ad versus a business. If it's a business, yeah, you should get a response within a reasonable amount of time. It's just a person. I mean they could be in the hospital. A loved one could be in a hospital. Businesses are persons too. Just keep that in mind. They're not people. They're businesses doing business. Corporate greed, Corbin.
    37:22
    Greed. I don't know. I just found that amusing and it was something that spoke to me a little bit. So what did you think? I think all of the things that you were saying make a ton of sense that if it's a brand new ad, I expect that you're probably watching it and responding and whatever else. But to Kyle's point, if it's something that's been up for four months, then my expectation can't be that you're just waiting for my email to tell you that I'm interested.
    37:49
    There's just a lot of extenuating circumstances of holiday weekend, of whatever. Somebody's on vacation. Who knows? Maybe they just don't care that much. Maybe pinball's not their number one priority.
    38:01
    That's my opinion on it all. Kyle, what do you think? Tell me. Tell me what you think. I was busy in open heart surgery.
    38:13
    I'm sorry I didn't get back to you about the Primus. I'm so sorry. I would like a Primus. I want a Primus, too. I don't care which one. I think I would. What about that Primus that had Tenacious D down at, uh. No, that's a PBR. That was a PBR. I'd like one of those, too. I think PBR is my favorite. I don't know. I like Tenacious D. I like Will and Ellie. I like Valens, too. I would honestly, I would get all three and I wouldn't be.
    38:38
    I'm surprised we don't have one already. I figured one of them would have found us by now. We went back to Pocketeer like three weeks ago.
    38:48
    And the lights were out. PBR. Talk about when you and Amy went to Pastimes for the Friday night lights out. I've never been to one of those. That was really cool. Tell us about it. Talk about it. They have beer now? Oh. So you can get beers? They have their own beer, don't they? They do. That somebody brews. How was it? I think it was fine.
    39:16
    So it was me and Amy and our buddy Matt Porter and then John that comes down to the league drove us out and we stopped at the Mexican restaurant next door. It was excellent Mexican food. They had... Tacos. No, what's the... You know I love going tacos. What's the 10% IPA from Great Lakes? Oh, like Monster? Or like Chill Wave. Yeah. They served me a 24-ounce chill wave.
    39:46
    So I have no idea what the pastime spirit tasted like. It's so funny when people do that with Chill Wave because we were at a bowling alley and they were serving as pitchers. Pitchers of it. Oh, no. For some reason we thought we need two. No, no, no. Anyway. No, but we went there and had dinner or whatever and then we went over and I was like, oh, yeah, this is cool, whatever, whatever. And then it was like an hour later they turned all the lights out. So like their normal lighting is much better than what it was. It was like 8 o'clock or like 6 o'clock? They did it like at sundown. So it was like 9 before they shut the lights out. I don't even know how late. They're open until 11.
    40:21
    11 to 11. We should go out here soon. They're doing it all this month too. So if we want to try to get out there on a Friday. Let's do it. Yeah. So worth it.
    40:31
    But talk about Pocketeers. You've not talked about Pocketeers on podcast yet. No? No. Not at all. Buffalo area. Excellent. I don't know what they have. 25 pool tables, 30 pool tables. I mean, it's a lot of pool tables.
    40:46
    There's like around 150 pinballs, and it's an eclectic mix. I mean, they have a title fight. It's very much our vibe. They have a Dune. They have a PBR Can Crusher. If you have 150 games, you're going to have some interesting stuff. A doctor dude. And everything still ranges. There's still 50-cent games. There's $0.50, $0.75 and $1 play games. So it's all coin drop. It's all coin drop. It should be. Yeah, break shot was $0.50 with incandescent still. And I got a ball trapped somewhere, turned it off. I turned around, turned back around, and it was back on with the ball out. Oh, nice. There's someone attending the games at all times. Some kind of little troll or something. It was pretty cool. I know Dave's in with a few of the folks there, and he had talked about when the Turner stuff and the Hexa stuff was coming through. That's a possible stopping point for those games.
    41:38
    How can you get a plaza that is a liquor store, a beard store, a weed store, and then the pinball place?
    41:47
    Did they have a pool hall so they had beer and stuff? Yeah, they have beer, they have pool kitchen, they have pizza, they have everything there. They had an ice cream vending machine, which was pretty cool. Was it Dippin' Tots? No, it wasn't. Ice cream of the future.
    42:00
    I think it's the ice cream of it now, actually. Yeah, last time I saw it, I didn't say that anymore. They had like the Spongebob. The ones with the weird candy eyes. The ones with the weird eyes. Oh, the ones that Ollie buys, takes two licks of them, like this is weird, throws away. Dude, those things when they start to melt are like nightmare fuel because Spongebob starts to look like something weird. There's just something about $3 worth of quarters in an ice cream vending machine you get there.
    42:27
    That's a cool spot. I just wanted you to talk about it a little bit because I've not been there, but it's been on my list forever. It just feels like whenever I'm passing through there, it's just not worked out. I didn't play anything broken. I know the first time we went, there was a game off, and by the time I came back in that room, it was back on. I mean, they were literally, like the owners were fixing the things. Some service right there. Yeah.
    42:51
    So something you had sent to me the other night, Kyle, was Ryan McQuaid's TNA speed run. That was great. So that was at a bigger festival that just wasn't pinball. It was pretty darn quick something or other. I think that too streamed it. Okay. And I was real confused when it popped up. I wasn't confused when it popped up, but Scott Denisi had posted on Instagram. I saw that, yeah. There was 35,000 people on that stream. Holy shit. And it was like some type of a Comic-Con or something. Right. I couldn't really... It was definitely a convention that was other nerd things with... But it was like games done quickly. That's what it was. So it was like people must be, they must do all kinds of different stuff like that. That's insane. They had it on nine extra balls. Having watched him play it though, like it's... At Pinball Olympics. It's so like... And then seeing that, it's like... Did you watch it at all? I need to watch it at all. I still need to watch it. Did you see the number? No. Okay, guess. Nine reactors.
    43:54
    That's what he got. Yeah, he beat the game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You win. It didn't say you fail. He won. He says you win. Yeah. Damn. It was awesome. It's the only time I'm going to see it, probably. What's even cooler is he's wearing the headset with a microphone on it, and he's commentating on what he's doing, what he's about to do. And there was a fucking Powerball in there.
    44:14
    Which I was going to bring up. Yeah, it's amazing, and after watching him play, there's a technique I'm going to try now, because I had always tried to do a shorter plunge and get it to drop into that upper play field, like that was my move. Same. I saw him doing an even shorter plunge and then catching it with the right flipper and then immediately, okay, lock a ball, do another short plunge, drop it in, catch it, lock a ball. Yeah, he did play a shit ton of multi-walls. He had it set up right. Every time. And I mean, he knew exactly. I mean, skill to the NFL. He knows that. He is. I barely saw it today when I was at work, but I believe there's set up now. We stood behind him in line. There is going to be a website now to where you can do the speed run of all nine reactors. There was either six reactors, three reactors, one reactor, where people are going to actually be able to enter their scores. Okay, that's cool. Like do like an actual leaderboard. Oh, that's cool. That's all TNA. I was just so glad that you shared that and that I was able to catch the very end of it. And then additionally to see that they were raising money for charity. Everything about it was something that was bringing more eyes to pinball, bringing eyes to someone who obviously dominates at a high level on that game. So how long do you think, Zach? Nine reactors. I bet he did it in 20 minutes. Okay.
    45:36
    I'm going to say 10. Okay. Like 12 to 15 range. Yeah, it was 18 minutes and 45 seconds, I believe was the number. Dude, I mean, nine reactors, so it was like basically one every two minutes. To me, the crazy thing is, though, like, is him talking about what he's doing as he's doing. Like, if I'm playing, all I can do is focus on, like... He was in the zone. It was... The talking probably made him even better. Like, he was... Not only is he telling you... It was impressive. He was telling himself. He's like... He's calling shots, man. Yeah. Well, like, I think the girl that runs the stream was commentating, and then Scott Denise, he was on there commentating, too, because they were all there, so... It's just always amazing with Scott. Scott is a good player too, and I think Scott's on record as saying he's never even done all nine reactors. Oh, I believe it does say on that website where you're going to be able to enter those scores, it says nine reactors with a Powerball is one of the options.
    46:31
    So I wanted to bring that up and then perfect segue on to the Powerball. Which reminds me, I need to swipe one. I'm just going to put them random in my games. Jared and Lindsay Cook were up at, the Lazars were in town and they went to Timberbeast to play Sonic and whatnot and they played Rolling Stones, which has a Powerball. And they're like, oh, is this just like a Mad Pinball, Anjali Stark novelty thing where you just drop random Powerballs in the game? And I'm like, no, actually a Powerball. That one did come with one. I said that one is of that era, like Avatar, where it came with one. But yeah, sometimes a Fathom might have a Powerball or an Alice in Wonderland might have a Powerball. Whenever it feels appropriate. Yeah, you know, whenever the moon strikes. You seem to want the Powerball and Winchester for the Sweeper City. Did you see that they're putting that into the women's mega match? Like, it's... Where? Sweeper City? At Sweeper. That's this weekend, right? Yeah. Are you taking games over? You said on Wednesday? Yeah.
    47:27
    But yeah, Sweeper City... He's like, well, I'm not going to help you. No. I'm available. I got shit to do Wednesday. No, we're already getting together. So that's whatever you need. I got shit to do Wednesday. I got lots of shit. Lawn needs mood.
    47:43
    Cut the grass already. I'm good to go. I'm fully available. I was just curious. It hasn't been raining at all. No, like literally I went out to my – no one cares about this on the podcast, but I'm going to say it anyway. I went out there yesterday and I was like, I don't even need to cut it. I'm just going to, you know, wait until the city comes by and my neighbors complain. You got a long ways to go, I think. We got a little ways to go. You also got an in with your zoning department. I do. God bless Lexington. Would you like me to file a complaint or something?
    48:13
    I need you to come park the bus in my driveway for a while. Sure. See if I can get my neighbors real salty at me. Real mad. But you're loud over there, aren't you? Did you put in one of those detachable mailboxes? I've been playing township. I don't know what the rules are for township living. Well, why don't you ask your resource? We could find out, right? Yeah.
    48:33
    That's all I have for my notes. Do you gentlemen have any things or thing that you wanted to broach? I have a Beetlejuice in my basement finally. Not that I was complaining.
    48:46
    Only on the podcast I complain. In real life I didn't give a shit. So having it at home, what are your takeaways?
    48:56
    My takeaways are... My first question is this. What's that? You have the Spooky Speak topper on it now. Yes. How is that? It's cool. What does it do? You guys seen the dead rings yet? I saw the pictures. Let's order a couple. I saw it. Someone posted somewhere one with it going on the bottom. It was cool. Yeah. That was only $200. It looks like it throws out a lot of light. I thought it was cheaper than that. Cheaper than $200? I thought it was like $369 for two of them or something. Yeah. So $169. Talk about the topper. Oh, it's pretty cool. Hey, how's it going? That fucker is tall. I mean, you know how my basement is. It's open right after eight foot ceilings or whatever, but it's close. I saw somewhere, I think on the Discord or somewhere, they were talking about other things you could say to it and stuff that was coated in with it. I haven't found anything else yet other than hello, but it does random shit.
    50:00
    179. Okay. Under 200. Again, if anyone from Spooky Pinball is listening, how about you raise the price just a little bit and then give some to the dealers and then we can sell them and we can make a little bit. I think the sum just won't let them be good. That'd be fine too. Just putting it out there. You have to deal with the people. But the Dead Ring works with Beetlejuice, Evil Dead, Halloween, Looney Tunes, Scooby-Doo, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and Ultraman. See that? How many are we going to need to get? We don't need these for all of them. Are you saying Boring Man doesn't deserve a dead ring? Boring Man's out in the wild. I know. Which one do you think would be cool with it? Evil Dead. Will it work with Domino's? No.
    50:45
    Domino's is an earner. Of course it is. You know why? Why? You collect the ingredients you bake the pizza and you deliver the pizza We been over this How much more simple could it be Straightforward Beetlejuice at home New code really good Still needs some debugging, but it's really good. The callouts are very helpful. So the callouts are... Well, before there was no callouts. Right, it was just movie quotes, basically. Basically, but there was no directional anything. So it wouldn't say, like, shoot the purple shots. Shoot the test off. And now it literally says, shoot the handbook to start mode. Okay. It's green. Like, they're fucking green. No, dude, that's nice because I played a lot of the early code and they're like, I don't even want to shoot. You have no idea what you're shooting at.
    51:40
    There's like three or four different actors in there. I think they said that eventually you're going to be able to pick what voice actors you want for the call-outs. So I assume they all have done all of the call-outs. Very cool. So if you only like the graveyard sounding guy, you know, whatever, but lock stealing is in there now. You know, I feel about that. I know, I love it. I totally love it. Lock stealing is in there now. Yeah, I think that's about it. A bunch of different modes in there now. So it's a dream theme for you. You got the game.
    52:16
    Does it do it justice? Yes. Good. Yes. Good, good, good. From the moment we played it and at midnight. Yeah, it's great. Yeah. In Benson. I definitely from my perspective, like you have to have a special you guys have to have a special connection with it from the midnight thing at Benton to pinball at the beach to, you know, the whole thing. I mean, it just makes it extra. Yeah, it was fun. The other night, my cousin and his kids were in town and they played it. And they're like, this is amazing. And the 10-year-old's like, can I play another? And they're like, we have to go. Can I play another one?
    52:55
    It's a really good time. That's great to hear. Yeah. Zach, any additions that you wanted? Any subjects you wanted to broach? No, not really. Just playing a bunch of Cactus Canyon lately. I got that back out there in the garage. Like we were talking about earlier. Where'd you play on it now?
    53:14
    We're going to put the upgrade kit on. That's what I, yeah. Yeah. I'm excited to play this. Things don't just come here for fun. Of course never.
    53:24
    No, I'm excited to put it on, Jeff. See what it does. Yeah, I'm interested to see after playing the one at Pinball Olympics and other places that had the unofficial code and the additions and whatnot. I want to see how much of that made it into this actual kit. So I definitely have some curiosity with more than just the saloon doors or whatever. I really want to know, do you get drunk multiball? That's what I'm looking forward to because that was my favorite playing that up at VFW. Yes. Getting that on, yeah. I remember I didn't even realize for a while that that wasn't even part of like because we played that one and then the one at Pinball Olympics they both had. Yeah, so I just thought, oh, they all have it. I just thought when we get a Cactus Canyon, we're going to get drunk multiball. No. Because you had that when we first got that one in. We had that one at your house. Yeah, and then you had one. We had one here, too, that you had that we were just storing for a minute. Yep. And we were both like, wait, there was no. Yeah, I was confused. Did you get it, too? I didn't get it. What do I need to do to get it? I've got to get it eventually. We were going through the menu, trying to find out, turn it on. Yeah.
    54:30
    Speaking of the remasters, is that what they call the Chicago gaming ones? What would you call those? Remakes? Yeah. So you have the... Remastered is like the, I think, more like Stern, like up where they update. Right. I guess they update stuff on the... Yeah, anyway. And that's what I was going to ask you. You have that 2015 Medieval Madness that's up for sale now, and that's supposed to have the color display. Was that... Were you and Kyle able to work that out on... No, we never figured it out. That's bizarre to me. I think it was just that to update the firmware or something. There might be a different code of firmware or something. Because somebody was asking... Because when you turn it on, it boots in full color. I keep forgetting that we never fucking see Jeff. And then it just went back to... It's been too long. I think we changed the color to orange or something purple. You can change it to one color, but it wasn't... It wasn't getting all the colors. We never did the full colorization for the... Somebody was asking me about for PIN2DMD, if there was the colorization code for Lost in Space. And I'm like, no, I don't think it's like a one of 600 sort of game. Yeah, but a lot of those PIN2 DMD colorizations come from VPX. Okay. So it's like digital recreations. And that runs the same exact code. Like PIN2 DMDs were made for virtual machines. Okay.
    55:48
    Yeah. Corbin, any topics that we haven't covered for you? I don't know. Anything, anything, some hangy chads? No, you know, I've been thinking about this when we're doing these deliveries and whatnot. And I've just been thinking about like maybe we need like a form people need to fill out pre-delivery, you know? Like a questionnaire? Yeah. Maybe you ask the questions and they have to answer them? So what's it like? What's your wife do for a living? How's your staircase? What's your floor status? I've just been thinking like after doing, oh, sure, that. Or just like doorway widths. Because you just think about some of these things that you don't think about. I think about it. With a doorway one, it's an entire page. And then it's with a doorway two, it's an entire page.
    56:37
    You know, but like, I don't know. I'm just thinking like what kind of questions would be good questions to get for that kind of a sheet. So like measurements to, like your minimum measurements. Like you need to be able to get this wide to get it through, minimum. Are there any turns? Turns, yeah. Any obstacles that I need to know about? One of the favorites is always when people say it's a straight shot. Oh, it's a straight shot down. And then it's not. And there are several turns and things in your way. Yeah. Obstacles, I guess. Probably somewhere in the questionnaire of mine would include, are there any mental health conditions that I need to know about that may preclude me from making this delivery? Congestive heart disease running your family. I don't know. I think, as we've talked about before with deliveries and pickups and everything else. And you can prepare for whatever and you're still not going to. And people who don't do it don't know what you're looking for with your eyes. So even you can ask the questions and they may not understand even what you're asking because to them. Imagine, picture yourself carrying a pinball through this area.
    57:39
    Do you have soft floors? If so, because there are hand trucks that they like. Obviously, if there are stairs that have a big overhang, there's not a lot you can do of putting 500 pounds on the edge of stairs. Not using the stair climber. You could design a better stair. I mean, come on, people. Of course. But there are hand trucks that have different wheels that are made for different surfaces.
    58:03
    Whether it's, hey, I'm going to be coming through grass. I'm not going to be dragging it with the escalera. They're just different, ideally.
    58:11
    Things I need to know before I get there. My neighbor did say something about when we were moving Beetlejuice in the basement. He's like, well, those are a little bit heavier than I remember. And I'm like, yeah, it's not Stern Pro, bro.
    58:23
    It's a little bit heavier. There's a lot to it. It's quality right there. There's quite a bit of heft in that play field on Beetlejuice.
    58:31
    Oh, no doubt. Yeah, dude, that whole sandworm. Yeah, it's huge. Definitely. Well, I guess the question that I'll ask to the audience, because Zach and Corbin, you'd brought this up pre-podcast, Has or does anyone, and if you have, email, who should they email? Freshpinball at gmail.com. Let us know, have you ever moved a pinball machine with like the furniture moving straps? Yeah, we were talking about that, you know, like the ones, they have like the people like the buckles basically on the chest. If you've ever had like a washing machine or a refrigerator delivered or whatever, you know, the guys, they'll put on the big almost like suspender. In theory it should work, I mean. It should. But I almost feel like... Those guys look like it's a certain balancing. Like, they've done a lot of, like, I would want to do a little practice runs before I do it at someone's house for the first time. You know, taking the, you know, Jersey Jack down your steps or something. Because you've talked about it many times. I'm afraid of pulling me down. Yeah. Exactly. Of, like, you and Zach working together. It seems like on stairs would be real awkward. Yeah. You know when he's going to step, what that means for you. And then when you're going to step, he knows what that means for him. It would be the same thing using something like that. You'd have to be practiced, well practiced with it with your partner, if you will. Dance, partner. I would be curious if you get a set. We were talking about how you get a set just to screw around with them and see. Oh, it can't be that expensive. We've all moved games enough with each other that we know each other's rhythms and stuff. I moved one with somebody. I set one up somewhere with a guy not that long ago. It was like some kind of Pokemon premium or something, and it was just a solo run. So I just ran out and did it, and it was like, hey, you want to grab this half and we'll just get into the spot real quick? Like, and he's a bigger dude, and I might have been a Harry Potter. I don't know. Anyway. Did I push you over? It was, yeah, it was just one of those, like, oh, shit, all right, never mind. You don't know what you're doing.
    60:20
    Yeah. But it's just, you just forget sometimes. Which isn't a bad thing. People don't, everybody has their skills. Oh, and they're probably excited, too. Yeah. That doesn't help. No. Oh, yeah, yeah. His raging boner, I think, was pushing the game. Probably. That's what I was thinking. Cough rocket. Yeah, if you've ever used one of those furniture moving apparati, I would definitely be interested to hear feedback. I'm just going to get set up from China for Harbor Freedom. We don't need it in quality. No. Not for a JDP.
    60:56
    Final thoughts, Kyle? Any upcoming events? Sweeper City this week. Sweeper City's this week. 17th, 18th, 19th, and 20th. Fanny's Pinball League every week. Yeah, if you want to come down on Wednesday, I'll buy you a fucking beer. They ain't going to help. He does buy me a beer. Yeah. I buy him a beer too.
    61:15
    So what about this Arcade Olympics idea? I don't know. We didn't talk about it. I was thinking, I've wanted to do it somewhere for a while.
    61:24
    Are we doing arcades and pinballs? Yeah. Are we doing everything? And I want to include running around the block too. Like one physical activity. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. He's like, lost half the guys out there. Yeah, you better be... Oh, shit, runnin'! You're gonna have to sign a waiver. So should it be teams? Should it be solos? I wanted to include pinballs, arcade games, a list of so many. The one that you had done, and I know I shouldn't bring it up, but I will. The one that you'd done the time at Racket Up was so much fun. There was track and field, there was air hockey, there was pinball, there was all of that. That was a really good time. I don't know. I think it could be cool. We should do it.
    62:07
    Yeah. Do an end of summer thing. I want somebody to run around the block, too. I want people to do that.
    62:13
    In their underwear. That's if they don't get past a certain score. You know what's really funny? If you do it on Wednesday, you have that run club down there right now. So you have to run around with the people that run. Do they go to Finney's?
    62:24
    Some of them do. It's up for water. It's a high quality H2O. Gotta be hydrated. There are some interesting things about the ones out of the place.
    62:40
    Anyway, I took Turtles out to New Berlin. They just wanted a Oktoberfest back. Or Oktoberfest. Why don't you put new balls in it and call it a day? The computer, I think, is cooked on it. It doesn't, like, stay on. It just freezes and glitches out.
    63:01
    Currently. We'll fix it. I saw classic game rooms down in... Can't you just buy, like, a Lavino off Amazon instead of, uh, whatever bullshit. You need a compact Passario, come on. Is that what it is? Get it together. I'm about to put an IBM ThinkPad. ThinkPad Pro. A little ThinkPad, put it in the head. Mac Mini, IMAX in the back of it. I need to have an alternative boot. You can boot it either to the pinball or you can boot it to Oregon Trail. You've got dysentery. I'd put some quarters in there. Every goddamn time.
    63:37
    Every time. You just put the names of the people that you don't like. If you just shut up, put dysentery.
    63:43
    Why do you want to keep dysentery? Final thoughts, Zach? Get out there and play some pinball. Definitely. At home, on location, local league, wherever it is. Get out there. Just pipe in ball and be kind to people. Always be kind. It's free. It costs you nothing to be nice. Be kind. Don't rewind. I thought it was Be Kind Rewind. You should definitely rewind. Alright, my final thought, stalking about Be Kind Rewind situation here. Have you guys seen this huge resurgence of these VHS rental places opening up? No, but Blockbuster? Did it come back? So it's not Blockbuster since that's like owned, but like Kyle and I get together and we're like, we're going to open up a storefront and have VHS tapes everywhere and then you rent the tapes and a VCR to people. The VCR, yeah, it makes sense. And then this is like a thing that's starting. Does it have a S-video to component adapter to HDMI to Bluetooth? If they need a CRT and they need the VHS and they need the tapes, we can furnish whatever they need. So these places are taking off, though? Taking off? Did we just rent them a CRT cart like we had in school? That's what I'm saying. 100% do you. The AV cart. You do that daily as we good. I wouldn't say they're taking off. This will kill you. I would say there is a resurgence, though. Okay, interesting. I haven't heard that. That's fine. Because even people, so like Norrin's age, who are like, and older, are interested in like, you know, vinyl came back. And now it's like, could this be, because I don't know, you guys are a little younger than me, but I remember on a Friday night after school. Oh no, we blockbuster hard, dude. Yeah, like your mom or whoever takes you to the video store and. My video Safari had Revolution X. What did your Safari have?
    65:34
    Porn. I got one of those Revolution Xs. I'm sorry. Yeah, soundboard's fucking on it. I was going to say with the unobtaining sound chip. Repairable. Yeah. You can only scavenge parts from the other boards. But I thought that was interesting that that's coming back. I saw if you have a local... Can we just install a mini-disc drive? Run the sound. Video store. Just like a Walkman on the track. Go out there and take care of these people.
    66:04
    Have you guys ever heard of or seen CEDs? That's your department. CEDs? You know what a CED is? No. So laser discs are like a big, huge fucking DVD. Right. A CED predated that to where they basically took a record and put video on it.
    66:21
    And then you would put it in and it would come out of this sleeve and then there would be a needle inside that would read the dots on top of this thing and then give you an image. That's pretty wild. I have one if you ever want to check it out. Do you have a way to play it? I do. I have a CED. Do you have the Revolution X soundtrack on that? I don't. What movie do you got on that? I have Grease. Grease? Yeah. Alright, next time we're over, I want to check it out, dude, that sounds wild. Some of this physical movie stuff is wild.
    66:53
    I do have one porno on Betamax, it's like Debbie Does Dallas or some knockoff like that. Betamax. You know, man. Tia has no clue about it. Oh, no, yeah, that's the word. We're an hour seven minutes in, she'll never hear this. It's with the Girls Gone Wild DVDs. Oh, my God.
    67:12
    DVD. Yes, be kind, rewind, that's all I've got, unless anybody else has any other final thoughts, Kyle? Amy just pushing into the lake, that's all I know. Just pushing into the lake? Yep.
    67:27
    Until next time, we'll see you when we see you. See ya. Go play some Mad Pinball. First Pimball!