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Pinball Junk Drawer Episode 68 - Craft Brew Sally's Ladies Flip, Blue Ribbon and Snoop D. O. Double G!

Poor Man's Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·33m 33s·analyzed·Mar 20, 2025
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TL;DR

Sally's Blue Ribbon restoration and Ladies Flip tournament play; Snoop Dogg wine AR discovery.

Summary

Foghorn Leghorn and Craft Brew Sally discuss Sally's restoration of a 1934 Bally Blue Ribbon machine, her participation in the Ladies Flip Wisconsin tournament at Lumberjack Dave's house (where she played 16 games and finished 16th of 24), and a discovery of Snoop Dogg's wine line with augmented reality features. The hosts also share historical pinball articles from the 1940s, including a story about Private Yoshio Tagami whose life was saved by spotting a pinball machine moments before a German bomb strike.

Key Claims

  • Craft Brew Sally restored a 1934 Bally Blue Ribbon machine through stripping, repainting, and applying feed-and-wax coating to the playfield

    high confidence · Direct first-person account of restoration work performed by Sally

  • A chrome plating service quoted $2,500 to re-chrome four or five pieces for the Blue Ribbon restoration

    high confidence · Sally's anecdote about visiting a chrome plating shop in the middle of nowhere

  • Craft Brew Sally placed 16th out of 24 players in the Ladies Flip Wisconsin tournament at Lumberjack Dave's house

    high confidence · Direct statement by Sally: 'I came in 16 out of 24'

  • The Ladies Flip Wisconsin tournament used a head-to-head, win-or-lose format with random draws rather than skill-based bracketing

    high confidence · Sally describing tournament structure: 'It was one head-to-head, and it was win or lose' and 'it was random draw'

  • Cassidy is a highly skilled competitive pinball player in Wisconsin who chose not to compete in the Ladies Flip Wisconsin tournament

    high confidence · Discussion of Cassidy being called 'the queen of pinball in Wisconsin' who 'will kick men and women butts alike' and 'didn't play'

  • Private Yoshio Tagami's life was saved during WWII when he entered a deserted Italian building to inspect a pinball machine moments before a German 88 bomb struck where he had been standing

    medium confidence · Historical article from July 25, 1944, published across multiple national newspapers, read directly on air

  • Snoop Dogg has released a wine line called '19 Crimes Cali Gold' that includes augmented reality features allowing consumers to scan the bottle with an app to see animated content

    high confidence · Direct experience: hosts purchased the product and confirmed AR functionality via cousin's recommendation and phone testing

  • Lumberjack Dave's house has a collection including Tales of the Arabian Nights, Big Lebowski, Medieval Madness, Willy Wonka, Adam's Family, Monster Bash, Attack from Mars, Dungeons and Dragons LE, Whitewater, Pulp Fiction, Scared Stiff, Robot, and Big Bang Bar

Notable Quotes

  • “I just carved a little bit of wood out of that one board that was catching which that bothers me because you shouldn't have to do that”

    Craft Brew Sally @ ~8:30 — Reflects frustration with vintage machine adjustment challenges and non-standard modifications required for playability

  • “There's that one up at District 82, Robot Wars, which is just this cheeseball game. But I play it a lot every time I'm there because I love cheeseball games.”

    Craft Brew Sally @ ~28:00 — Demonstrates preference for campy/themed games regardless of competitive depth

  • “I love them both the same. They're like children. You can't say you love one more than the other.”

    Craft Brew Sally @ ~44:00 — Personal opinion on her Elvira and Godzilla machines; humorous comparison of machine affection

  • “Private Yoshio Tagami, an army truck driver from Hawaii, is also a pinball addict... He walked inside to have a look at it... when he heard that all-familiar scream outside... He hit the floor. As shelling subsided, he stepped back outside and found a large hole made by a German 88 right where he had been standing before he spotted the pinball machine.”

    Foghorn Leghorn @ ~49:00 — Historical account of pinball machine discovery saving soldier's life during WWII; demonstrates pinball's presence even in combat zones

  • “I think pinball saves a lot of our lives.”

    Foghorn Leghorn @ ~51:00 — Meta-commentary on pinball's cultural and emotional significance

  • “It's an augmented reality thing and it comes to life like his pictures on the front of the bottle and it starts singing his song”

    Foghorn Leghorn @ ~60:00 — Description of novel AR wine bottle technology; demonstrates cross-industry tech adoption

  • “You're thinking of Wizard of Oz... Willy Wonka... Both of them. Don't like that one either.”

    Foghorn Leghorn / Craft Brew Sally @ ~37:00 — Hosts discussing shared negative sentiment toward classic IP pinball adaptations despite appreciating aesthetics

Entities

Craft Brew SallypersonFoghorn LeghornpersonLumberjack DavepersonNikkipersonCassidypersonRachelpersonDon SpinellipersonPrivate Yoshio TagamipersonSnoop Doggperson

Signals

  • ?

    community_signal: Ladies Flip Wisconsin tournament demonstrates active women's pinball community with organized events, diverse player skill levels, and social integration (brunch, coffee service) creating inclusive competitive environment

    high · Sally's detailed account of tournament structure, player interactions, and venue setup; Cassidy's respected status as top competitor

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Positive reception of Dungeons and Dragons LE in early play-testing; hosts suggesting game will likely achieve top-10 status over time as code and rules depth become understood; confidence in co-op mode potential

    medium · Sally calling it 'still a really fun game' and predicting top-10 status; discussion of pending co-op mode exploration

  • ?

    community_signal: Lumberjack Dave's tournament venue combines competitive play with social elements (brunch, specialty coffee service) and charitable fundraising (Shriners); venue organization enables inclusion of top-tier players without intimidating newer players through head-to-head format

    high · Sally's description of tournament structure, brunch service, Cassidy's barista work, random draw format, and charity games

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Skill progression varies significantly by machine era: Sally self-identifies as stronger at EM games than modern deep-ruleset titles; competing players acknowledge this divide as common pattern requiring different learning approaches

    medium · Sally's statement 'I think I'm better at the EMs than I am newer games'; Foghorn's analogy comparing EM-to-modern difference as equivalent to pre-flipper machines-to-EM difference

  • ?

Transcript

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0:00
Now who's responsible for this unwarranted attack on my person? I say, I say, I say, pay attention now, boy. This is, of course, Foghorn Leghorn presents the Pinball Junk Drawer. You all asked for it. I say, you all asked for it now. You're gonna get it. Boy, oh boy, are you gonna get it. Go, I say, go away, boy, you bother me.
0:25
And just like that, we are coming at you with the only pinball podcast That's good for your ears and your butt. My name is Foghorn Leghorn with me as always. Craft Brew Sally. Craft Wine Sally this week, but we'll get to that a little later.
0:41
Yes, did you see I used our famous catchphrase? Yes. The only podcast that's made for your ears and your butt. And your butt. Yes. Yeah. Interesting week. You, Craft Brew, attended a tournament, Ladies Flip Wisconsin. Is that right? Yes. Oh, look at that. It only takes 68 shows and you can get it right.
1:02
And I finally got off my butt and fixed up an old machine I had laying around. And then I also found a couple interesting old articles. What are we going to start with? The blue ribbon? Yeah, let's talk about the blue ribbon. So I restored an old Bally blue ribbon from 1934. I mean, yeah, I guess restored. I stripped it down, repainted it, got some of the stuff done. I think on one of the shows I was talking about how they wanted to, like, what did they want? $2,500 to re-chrome a couple of the pieces? Yes. And I was like, nah, nah. Oh, it was nuts. Yeah. It was like we drove forever to this place in the middle of nowhere. Yeah. And with four or five pieces. And, yeah, that's when I left with an invoice that made me sad and all the pieces still in my hands. So, anyway, that was a lesson I learned. But it came together real nice. It was a nice machine. It just, you know, looked a little old and beat up and needed some attention. And that's where I took everything off of it. And, like, I put that feed and wax stuff on it. Like, I coated it for, like, two or three days so it absorbed the whole play field. Like, just absorbed that, like, feed and wax stuff. It's like this paste. And, boy, it looked real beautiful, you know. And then I put all the pieces back together, polished them out. Just polished it. It was fine. Most of it was nickel. You know, and then and then like I got new glass cut for it. And like it was kind of catching on the bottom when I put it back together. Something wasn't working right. And I knew it needed to just get like kind of fiddled with. And that was like a year ago, year and a half ago. So it sat down here in the basement just with the glass kind of over it, but not like in it. It was it just needed like this little bit of finishing. Yeah, adjustments and finishing. so then finally I was like you know your pop was interested in that thing last year when they were here and I know they're coming after July or August they're coming so I was like I gotta get this thing working so he can at least enjoy it a little bit so I took the afternoon and got it working the only thing it works great I had to like I carved a little bit of wood out of that one board that was catching which that bothers me because you shouldn't have to do that but something changed in my adjustments so whatever you know so now I have this 1934 Bally's blue ribbon in beautiful shape I got to take it back apart to mess with the plunger spring it doesn't have enough power to go around because it shoots around the top it's an auto racing theme blue ribbon and then the bottom has this gorgeous like car front end grill kind of thing. That's what holds the balls. And it holds the scoring flips. So it doesn't have enough power to go all the way around and then arc to the left side of the field. So it's just a spring. It worked before. I'll just have to get... Maybe I'll take the spring out and just like kind of stretch it. No springs.

high confidence · Sally's detailed list of tournament games played at the venue

  • Craft Brew Sally is tracking progress toward playing 100 different pinball machines in the calendar year and had played 16 games as of the Ladies Flip tournament

    high confidence · Sally confirms Hobonichi 100-list goal started January 1st: 'I'm going to play 100 different pinball machines this year'

  • The 1940s war years saw thousands of pinball-related articles published despite pinball remaining illegal in many jurisdictions

    medium confidence · Foghorn Leghorn's research-based commentary on historical newspaper articles from the era

  • “I probably would have plunked down money immediately... Then the second time I played it I was like, I still liked it, but I wasn't like, oh my god, this is one of the greatest games ever.”

    Foghorn Leghorn @ ~26:00 — Reflection on how first-play hype vs. repeated play shapes perception of iconic machines like Big Bang Bar

  • “They have new cars... Those little tiny cars that they have... Moving on from the bad joke.”

    Foghorn Leghorn @ ~42:00 — Self-aware commentary on failed joke attempt regarding Shriners fundraiser

  • “Because it seemed like it was a lot of reverends and politicians, but there was nobody up in arms about it.”

    Foghorn Leghorn @ ~52:00 — Historical observation about lack of public defense of pinball during prohibition era despite widespread play

    • Martha Stewart
    person
    Cousin Mattperson
    Blue Ribbongame
    Tales of the Arabian Nightsgame
    Big Bang Bargame
    Attack from Marsgame
    Medieval Madnessgame
    Fathom (Haggis version)game
    Blood Red Kissgame
    Ladies Flip Wisconsinevent
    District 82organization
    Silver Ball Museumorganization
    Free Play Floridaevent
    Pinball Junk Drawerorganization
    19 Crimes Cali Goldproduct
    Total Wineorganization

    design_philosophy: Theme-to-gameplay disconnect: Sally loves thematic elements (Willy Wonka movie clips, Wizard of Oz references) but finds actual game design and shot sequences unsatisfying despite aesthetic appreciation; suggests theme licensing alone insufficient for game appeal

    high · Sally's repeated statement about loving Willy Wonka/Wizard of Oz themes but not loving the machines; acknowledgment that time investment might warm her to game but reluctance to invest $15k to discover

  • $

    market_signal: Pinball's historical resilience and cultural significance during wartime and prohibition era; theme of pinball as life-changing or life-saving element across different contexts

    medium · WWII Private Tagami story about bomb survival; Foghorn's statement 'I think pinball saves a lot of our lives'; historical research into 1940s articles showing persistent gaming despite legal restrictions

  • $

    market_signal: Rare and collectible pinball machines (Tales of the Arabian Nights at ~$20k, Big Bang Bar at ~$40k) remain highly desirable despite extreme scarcity and price; Blood Red Kiss machines sold out at premium pricing

    high · Sally's hesitation about Big Bang Bar purchase despite first-play enthusiasm; discussion of Blood Red Kiss scarcity and value retention

  • ?

    community_signal: Craft Brew Sally's restoration approach emphasizes learning through trial-and-error and practical problem-solving; willingness to modify original components (carving wood) to achieve functionality despite discomfort with non-original approaches

    high · Sally's detailed restoration narrative; comment about carving wood bothering her despite necessity; iterative approach to spring adjustment

  • ?

    product_strategy: Lumberjack Dave's collection strategy emphasizes variety across eras (classic EMs, 1980s-1990s mid-tier games, and modern deep-ruleset games) to accommodate different player preferences and skill levels

    high · Sally's game list spanning from vintage (Tales of the Arabian Nights, Robot) through modern (Dungeons and Dragons LE); hosts' discussion about EM vs. modern game accessibility divide

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Sally's opinion on Big Bang Bar shifted from initial extreme enthusiasm ('oh my god, this is one of the greatest games ever') to more measured appreciation upon second play; suggests hype cycles and first-play experience effects on game perception

    high · Sally's explicit comparison of first vs. second encounter with game; reflection on saturation effect similar to Space Invaders experience

  • ?

    technology_signal: Augmented reality bottle-scanning technology achieving mainstream consumer adoption in wine industry; practical implementation generating genuine consumer engagement

    high · 19 Crimes app with animated Snoop Dogg label; hosts' genuine surprise at AR functionality working effectively; family members recommending feature

    • 4:07
    So I'll get it dialed in. But it's together. It shoots. It's fun. What a beautiful game. The only thing I think I'm going to do, and this is one of those things I've kind of been sketching out of my brain. Oh no. Yeah, I know. You know how like modern stuff has toppers? Yeah. Well, I want to put a thing that like goes behind it and kind of makes it like a, like almost like a crown that says like blue ribbon. Like make a, like make like a deco looking topper based off the back. Like, so it's like kind of goes around and like, like metal. I don't know. I have an idea what I'm going to do, but yeah, it's pretty cool. So that got going. And then, of course, Elvira broke our hearts again.
    4:48
    It wasn't Elvira's fault this time. The shooter, I put one of those urethane shooter tips on, a nice orange one. Kind of looked cool. And I looked down, the tip was, like, hanging off all janky. I'm like, come on, man. So I figured out, I learned this week that you can reach up from the bottom and, like, hurt yourself, but you can pry that off and put a new one on without having to take the glass off. So I got it fixed up, and that was all. That was the extent of it. Shouldn't cry about every little thing, but it was like, come on, man. I know. Stop. Stop breaking. Yeah. It was great that we got that blue ribbon done. Yeah. Well, you did. Yeah.
    5:29
    Adjusting those little, I call them hoppers, but they're like lids. Yeah. These are the kind that when the ball goes into the hole for like, it has like 100, 200, up through 900 or 1,000, I think, up through 1,000. And when it goes through that hole, that flips the lid down, so that hole's closed. Like, you got the 1,000. So now you've got to try and get the other ones and get them all across. Yeah. So you have to, like, after I put them back together, they were uneven, so the balls would hang up on them and all that. So I had to, like, bend them. That took forever. But I got it down. So yay for that. Good job. So what did you do this week? So I played in the Ladies Flip Wisconsin tournament, which was really fun. It was at Nikki and Dave's house. Lumberjack Dave's. Lumberjack Dave's house.
    6:20
    I can't be the only person to call them Lumberjack Dave. No, I'm sure not. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, I hadn't been to one in a really long time because it seemed to work out that every time there was one, it was my weekend to work at my previous employer. And now that I don't have to work weekends anymore, I was like... More conducive, yeah. Yeah. There was one last month, but it was Super Bowl Sunday, and I can't go to some... Yeah. Come on, folks. It's snack Sunday before Super Bowl starts. Yeah. Now, my jaw hit the ground when I heard some of these games you played. Yes. Let me get my list. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. There was two in there specifically that I was like, oh, my God, I want to go. You were so jealous. Oh, so jealous. They have a really awesome collection. Yeah, they do. Which you would assume. They have so many cool games out on their locations. Yes. You can tell. They know what's cool. Yes, they do. Wow.
    7:22
    So it was a neat setup, too, for the competition. It was one head-to-head, and it was win or lose. So all the tournaments that I played in before were like four players, whoever won. Like where you do the one, two, three, and four. Yeah, like the, I don't know how it was. Ten points, eight points, six points, three points, that thing, yeah. But this one was just head-to-head, which was nice because you got to just play with one person. That's cool. And it was a random draw. That's even cooler. Where it's not based on skill.
    7:57
    That's nice. It was neat because a lot of times when I do these, then I don't get to play. Like, in the past, I wasn't able to play Rachel or I couldn't play Nikki or, you know. Some of you, you know. Yeah. You know. Which I heard that the queen of pinball in Wisconsin did not play She did not What her name Cassidy Cassidy who will kick men and women butts alike She will reign supreme She really good She was there She was there for, she was a barista. That's so cool. It was. And probably you were like, oh, I love her coffee and I'm glad she's not beating me this week. Is that what you said? That's what I would have said. I probably would have said that to her. I think somebody actually thanked her for not playing. You know you're good when somebody thanks you. Yeah. And it's all in the good fun. Yeah. And I've never played that style that you're talking about there. No, and it was neat because who knows who you might have won bad game and... On a, like a, what's that, Gone Fishing? What the hell's the name of that one? Oh, goodness. Billy Bass? No.
    9:07
    I don't remember which one it was. Oh, no. Don't bother me. Tail? Fish Tales. Yes. Like me, on Fishtails. No, I've only ever, the only other kind I played was that awesome kind down in Asylum, where you just basically keep playing all day. Yeah. And then your highest score, you know, that's really cool. Because I have endurance.
    9:28
    Yes, you do. I could play pinball for a very long time and not even bat an eye. No. Yeah, so. And video games. Yeah, and video games. Ask me how I know. Yeah.
    9:40
    You're not bad about it. No, no. Yeah, anyway. So how'd you do? I came in 16 out of 24, which, you know. Why not? Not bad. I mean, I played some really good people. Yeah. One of them I was very surprised that I beat. They had a very bad game, so score. There you go. But, you know. And you had fun. Yeah, I did. Fun is more important, really. I don't think you're a super competitive player. No. And I mostly just go to, you know, because a lot of these people I consider my friends. That's awesome. They're really, it's just really nice because they're like, will tell you about the game. Yeah, it's not cut through. You're like, oh, yes, I do it. Like this is what the, you know, skill shot is. Yeah, how you multiply points. Because every game, not every game, a lot of games have some secrets that if you know them, you're like, oh, okay, that's really awesome. Yeah. So that's very cool. It was really a fun day, and it was like Nikki, we all wore pajamas, so I wore my beer pants. Of course. Crafter Sally wearing her beer pants. And then what else? So now the other good thing about this is you added some, I don't know if anyone, long-time listeners remember that. Crafter Sally boldly proclaimed for her New Year's, what are you going to do? So it wasn't for my New Year's resolution. It was for my Hobonichi has a hundred list in the back of it. So when did you start it? January 1st.
    11:10
    Shut up. Okay. Anyway, not being a New Year's resolution, but whatever. January 1st you started. Yeah. So I'm going to play 100 different pinball machines this year. And you were hovering around eight for quite a long time. I think I was up to like 16. Right. So this is a good bump. To be honest, one trip up to District 82. yeah and i'll be you're gonna be within a within striking distance yeah i said i'll start it right when you walk in the door and just like keep going down the rows until i hit 100 you'd be like home of 120 games you're like sold here's my 24 i'll be like oh god i can't do this anymore right i will i can i know i know but you're not doing this so yeah so what are the games you play because oh there's a couple in there i'm gonna freak out again about go ahead so it was like when we got there, it was like the first hour you can just run around and play. But Nikki made brunch for all of us, so it was not a lot of pinball playing that first hour. And then Cassidy was making coffee. And if you ever see Cassidy out there making coffee, you need to get it. I should have got it when she's at that other place, at Lumberjack. She makes the best coffee.
    12:29
    She's way better than Starbucks. Oh, yeah. Good. Well, yeah. I probably would have partaken in the food and coffee. Well, I probably would have played pinball and then ran and ate and then ran and played some more pinball and then ran. Yeah. That's what I do. So I did get one game in before it started. And so I played Pulp Fiction. Nice. That's a fun game. Yeah. We played that when we went to Don's Pinball Don. Yeah. Pinball Don? Is that the name? No. Don's Pinball. Yeah. Sorry, brains. So yeah, Don Spinelli, we went there when he unboxed the John Wick LE, which is gorgeous. And then we got to play that for a while. We were playing that one. That one and Lebowski were really fun. Yeah. So then when the tournament started, I played Tales of the Arabian Nights. Totem. Yes. That's a classic, man. That is one of the most sought-after games ever.
    13:27
    Hmm. Yeah. No, no, it's beloved. Yeah. I'd grab one if I could they're like 20 grand though you can get two machines for that I can get a backup Elvira for when ours isn't working and then I can do a I kid Elvira and then I played the Big Lebowski fun does that one have the sunken bowling alley too? I don't know I didn't get that because I had the worst game of my life on the Big Lebowski it's a cool game well it wasn't the worst game of my life I know what you're saying And you're like, damn it. Because I had a lot of fun playing that at Don's. But then I think I broke it. Didn't I break that one at Don's? I don't remember. Not break it, but it stopped working. Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah. And then I played Robot. That freaks me out. I don't think I've ever played Robot, and I want to so bad now. I just heard of that. I used to play it. There's that one up at District 82, Robot Wars, which is just this cheeseball game. But I play it a lot every time I'm there because I love cheeseball games. Yes. Robot. Oh, man. That was the first one that I was like, oh, man. Oh, man. And then this next one, you're going to be like, oh, man. Oh, I know which one it is. Go ahead. Which? Big Bang Bar. Oh, my God. That was one. Story time, folks. That was because I was so jealous that you played that. I love that. The first time I played that, I'd never heard of it before. And we were at one of the first free play Floridas that we were at. so I played first we played Chicago Gaming the remake of the Attack from Mars I was like what is this thing I hadn't heard of this so I was playing it I was like oh this is so awesome this is my favorite game and then lo and behold along the wall there was a big bang bar and I was like what in the hell is this so I start playing and I was like I was freaking out my head was just like exploding because it was very I love the theme very goofy and space there's like weirdness all over it and i was like oh this is so cool and i'm walking away i'm like i gotta get this game and i went to work or went home and i started researching i was like well we're never gonna have this game because there's like 12 of them and they're 40 grand each i was like okay well i can pay off the house or i can try and find that game yikes yeah so and then but then the second time i played it i was like i wasn't at the first time i was so over the moon with that, I would have plunked down money immediately. Then the second time I played it, I was like, I still liked it, but I wasn't like, oh my god, this is one of the greatest games ever. Yeah. So it must, I don't know what it was. I haven't played it since. Maybe you just had a really good game the first time, and you're like, oh yeah, this is awesome. No, it was just fun, though. It was funny. I think it was just so oversaturated. I was that way about Space Invaders, where I really loved it. I was like, oh, that's such a cool game. And then we played it, and I was like, eh. Yeah.
    16:18
    Maybe I just had a good time playing it at that. Delray Museum. Oh, Silver Ball Museum. Yeah, Silver Ball Museum is where I played. I played the Space Invaders a lot down there. That's where I first had my first encounter with the Beatles. Yeah, you loved it. You were always up there playing them. And I was down there playing Space Invaders. If you couldn't find me, you knew where I was. Yep. Okay, so back to it. So, incredibly, they have Big Bang Bar. Now what else do they got So then I played Pulp Fiction for the actual tournament Oh gotcha And then I played Scared Stiff Fun game Yeah I love all three of the Elvira I love them all. Yeah.
    16:55
    The person I was playing had quite a game, so. I didn't get to play Scared Stiff other than just watch someone else beat me on it. Kind of, yeah. So I was getting raged out. Yeah. Oh, it's okay. Then I played Medieval Madness. Yeah, okay. Which was freaking awesome. Yeah. It's a fun game. Like, I didn't know. Like, I don't think I played it before. I didn't have a good game on it before. But, like, the castle started, like, shaking. And the whole game starts shaking. I was like, okay. Oh, yeah. Because then you're doing the volleys against it. And it's like, yeah, that's really neat. It's a fun game. I don't play that much. I don't see it much. But whenever I do, I play it. You know, that's a fun. One of those fun, well-known games. Yeah. It was fun. And then I played... And this game I really want to love, but I just don't. I'm with you on it, man. Willy Wonka.
    17:50
    I want to love it because I love the theme. Yeah. I read that book when I was in probably elementary school. I've seen that movie a million times. I just can't love that machine. When I heard that was a theme and then I saw it, I don't think I got to play it, but I saw it and I was like, oh, I'm going to be getting this because of you, because of my mom. Like, you know, like my mom's never going to play pinball. No. You're thinking of Wizard of Oz. Oh, wait. What did you say? Willy Wonka. Oh, Willy Wonka. Yeah. No, no. Sorry. Same thing. Yep. Both of them. Don't like that one either. I know. You know. I like. They're beautiful. Right. They are. When I play, I remember the Willy Wonka now. And it plays clips from the movie. Yeah, it's awesome. Sorry. my brain immediately went to the other one. I felt the same way about both of them. They're gorgeous and they're cool. And something tells me if I spent more time with them I probably would find the shots better and kind of like warm up to it. Maybe not though. Maybe not. And maybe I'm risking 15 grand to see if I have something. No, no, no, no. Yeah. Yeah, Willy Wonka, you know.
    19:02
    If we could reprogram it to have that one where it's Arnold Schwarzenegger's face on Willy Wonka now that maybe we'd do that. No. Okay. So then what else did you play? Adam's Family. Good game. Funny game, yeah. And then Monster Bash. Liked that game a lot. Yep. That's a funny game. I don't think a lot of people love that game. I just like that game a lot. I don't know. It's just funny.
    19:26
    And then I was super excited about this one. And then Nikki killed me. Because, of course, it's like her favorite. One of her favorites. Attack from Mars oh Attack from Mars yeah not the new not the remake the older one oh really yeah oh that's cool yeah I do like I can't say that I like the newer ones because I have more trust I'm not going to break something on it yeah but they're both they're fun that's a fun game you can be you can have a crappy game on it and you're going to be like wow 127 million you know you're like you know but then the person that beat you is like 18.6 trillion you're like wait trillion that's exactly what happened so I'm so good wait what was your score that's whenever I walk away from a attack from Mars I remember I used to go to play that one on my lunch every now and then I GC'd that a couple times right that's just stupid numbers yeah so and what else you got and then I played Dungeons and Dragons LE sticking with it still a really fun game yeah I still yeah I think it's going to be a top 10 I know people might think I'm nuts but I bet you over time the way they're doing that code and the way it shoots. Yeah. We have to figure out that co-op mode and see how that is.
    20:41
    When we do it next time, yeah, that'll be fun. And then I did Whitewater. Another classic. Man, they have a... Wow. I'm trying to think of some of the other games that they have. Yeah.
    20:56
    It's not like... And it's a variety of... I don't know if they have any of the old EMs. Yeah. But it's mostly like...
    21:05
    There's a lot of the mid stuff. Yeah, like Dr. Dude. They don't have Dr. Dude, but you know, like that. And what's that one with the Stallone one, the Judge Dredd? Yeah. Because those are very fun games. They're modern enough that anyone can play them, but they're not as deep rule set as the new stuff. Obviously, the new stuff is kind of over the top with rule sets, where when you step up to the old EMs, this is just my opinion, there's a real divide. I love those because that's what I grew up playing. Yeah. So I'm actually kind of, I think I'm better at the EMs than I am newer games. I can really beat them up sometimes. Yeah. I can play them pretty well. Now, I'm not going to beat Cassie. I'm not going to beat people at it. But I play pretty well in those. Yeah. And like, but I love them. You know, but if you don't like know that era, they seem like a whole different world, kind of. Yeah. The difference is almost like the Bally blue ribbon with no flippers to an EM. That's an EM to a modern game. Yeah. Because it's just like, you know. It's true, yeah. But there's some real gems on that. So that's awesome. You had a wonderful time. Yeah, that was the end of the tournament games. But then they also did a, they were raising money for a Shriners.
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    They had to buy new cars? No. Those little tiny cars that they have? Go ahead. Moving on from the bad joke. They were raising money for, and I should have looked at it more, for a specific Shriner organization. Gotcha. And so I got to play Fathom by Haggis. Haggis Fathom? Mm-hmm. Wow. That's pretty rare. Yeah.
    22:51
    I don't know. Not a... Because I like the original Fathoms. I like those. Yeah. It's a fun game. They have those at District 82. too. I remember playing one and I was like, yeah, this is pretty cool.
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    Yeah, I don't know. I guess it's gone. That's all we'll say about that. Right. So, anything else? Uh, no. Well, no. And then I did play another one. What? Oh, Vyra. Blood Red Kiss. Oh, my God. I love that game. I wish we... I almost wish we would have got one of them. But they were way more and just they went. They were gone. You know. they're worth every penny if you made more, good you're smart those things are gorgeous they're beautiful and they're fun that's a really fun game as much as I bag on mine giving me a little bit of trouble the trouble is that it's so cool and so fun I really love it I couldn't say if I love the Elvira more than I love Godzilla no, it's different they're totally different and I love them both the same They're like children. You can't say you love one more than the other. Right.
    23:59
    Right. But, yeah, that was that. That was that? Mm-hmm. All right. We're running a little bit long, but I'm going to read one of the things. I was, of course, digging around and going through my year after year of pinball research. And now I'm up to the 1940s. And I will say it's very interesting, leading up to this, from 1931 or 1932, when I first started finding articles about pinball. I've been going year by year and like reading them. It is a lot of that. Mostly it's legislation. Either it passed or it passed and it got repealed or it got repassed or then there just some youths got busted because they're still playing it. What was that one? Like a lady that owned like some kind of a shop got arrested because she was selling beer and pinball to these like kids. To kids. Yeah. I think it was minors. That's awesome. Fight the power lady. This was like in 1938 or something like that. I was like, okay, whatever. I think they had other problems than that. But now we got into the war years and this is not a lot of fun reading folks If you were reading about the war years the 40s early 40s it a lot of so got killed and here a whole bunch of people that got killed and oh yeah, by the way, pinball's still illegal. It's still popping up thousands of pinball articles, but there was one really, really cool one that I printed out. It's kind of a short one that I'll read to us. Now this was in the this is in multiple papers across the nation. It was Tuesday, July 25th, 1944, so this is solid wartime. Private Yoshio Tamagi, Tagami, sorry, Yoshio Tagami, an army truck driver from Hawaii, is also a pinball addict. I'm reading this directly. Anybody who thinks he's going to reform from his love of pinball is nuts. His truck was parked in a battered Italian village not long ago when Yoshio looked into the door of a deserted building and saw a pinball machine. He walked inside to have a look at it. Yoshio began to inspect the gadget when he heard that all-familiar scream outside. They're referring to that scream of a bomb being dropped. Because they used to whistle in the 40s. It was horrifying. He hit the floor. As shelling subsided, he stepped back outside and found a large hole made by a German 88 right where he had been standing before he spotted the pinball machine. And now Private Tagami practically adores pinball machines. So basically, pinball saved Private Tagami's life. And I think pinball saves a lot of our lives. There was a second one I was going to read, but I'm going to save it. Or I'll probably put it up. We have a Facebook page. We don't go on there a whole lot, but I started bringing some of the more interesting old articles. It was an article from the St. Louis Dispatch in 1942, Sunday, February 1st, 1942. and it talks about something I have wondered for a long, long time. And it's titled, Where Are the Pinball Players?
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    And this article addresses, why wasn't there more of a fuss raised to combat the people that didn't want pinball machines? Because it seemed like it was a lot of reverends and politicians, but there was nobody up in arms about it. And this kind of talks about, if they tried to take golf clubs, well, people would have been losing their minds, but this was kind of a fringe thing that they know a lot of people loved pinball, but nobody stood up and literally fought for it. So it's a neat article. I'm going to probably put that on our site.
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    29:15
    That's right, people. And we're back. Ha-ha. And this is now. Ha-ha? No. Yes. Ha-ha. Now this is craft wine Sally today. Yes. Craft wine Sally. Snickety-nickety, y'all. I don't even know how we found it. But we were looking at something and we discovered that Snoop Dogg has a line of wines. No, this is how we found it. Okay. I was, we were, we had dropped about $300 at the, at the, what's that, Total Wine? And as Crabtree Sally's fumbling around with her phone to get the points and get the coupons and blah, blah, blah, I'm out there digging around for a box to put all our booze in. Oh. So I had a box and I put all the booze in and I look over and I see a Snoop Dogg box. And I was like, well, guess what? Crabtree Sally needs this. Yoink. So we got two boxes that day. But that's, then when we got home, I was like, what the hell is this? I just saw a picture of Snoop Dogg, and I'm like, well, D-O-double-G's up in the hizzy. Yeah, so we immediately went back to Total Line and found Snoop Dogg's 19 Crimes Cali Gold.
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    And we haven't had it yet, but we posted a picture of it on Facebook. And, you know, everyone's like, oh, we need to get that. We need to get that. And then... Snoop Dogg is beloved. he is he i totally fell in love with snoop dogg from watching him at the olympics sorry there's a felon i would vote for right oh go ahead yeah him and martha do it man yeah and there's actually some there's some wine by both of them in here so our cousin cousin matt from arizona he put a post up and he said that oh you have to download the 19 crimes app and then you can scan the bottle and then something really cool will happen well something really cool happens when you scan the bottle yeah so it's an augmented reality thing yeah and it comes to life like his pictures on the front of the bottle and it starts singing his song and he starts singing moving around like on your phone uh-huh it's it's nuts it's really cool so we will probably have maybe the whole line of Snoop Dogg's beer or of wines. Snoop Dogg's wines. Yeah, that'd be cool. So it was one of those things where I was surprised. I don't think I've ever seen augmented reality work, actually work. Yeah, and it does. It actually works. The whole song launches off. Yeah. Gin and Juice song, I think. No. I can't remember. I don't remember which one it is. It's one of his famous ones. Yeah. And you look at the app. I look over in her phone and he's sitting there like his face is moving, but it's the face, it's the label from the bottle. Yeah. It's so badass. It's really neat. It's just like, wow. So, yeah. We would give a, definitely go out and get yourself some 19 Crimes featuring Snoop D-O-double-G. And it was like $12, I think. Yeah, it was. Now, we got the sparkling. Sparkling wine. Gold label, because we're like, eh. Like a lot of mixed drinks, you can use a sparkling wine. So, I was like, eh, that'll be fine. we'll keep one as a souvenir and one we'll use with our rum drinks or something. Or mimosas. Sure, why not.
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    So that's it. Other than that, so go out and get that. It was really cool. You should try it. It was awesome.
    32:50
    We'll keep you posted when we get all the other ones. Yes. That's going to do it for this week. Ran a little bit long. Hope we didn't bore you too much. Please enjoy this wonderful serving of Pinball Junk Drawer featuring Snoop D-O-double G. and anything else before we go? You wish.
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    That's it. See you next week, one and all. You going to say bye? No? Don't forget, it's good for your ears and your butt. Yes, never forget that. If we keep saying it, it'll show up on a shirt one day.
    33:20
    See you next time, everyone. That's it, man. Game over, man. Game over.