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#140 Pinfest 2026 - The Classic Pinball Podcast

The Classic Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·2h 36m·analyzed·May 7, 2026
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TL;DR

Pinfest 2026 dealer trading and show floor coverage with game plays and industry networking.

Summary

George and Dave discuss their experiences at Pinfest 2026 in Allentown, Pennsylvania, focusing on Thursday's dealer trading sessions and Friday's main show floor activities. Dave conducted extensive horse-trading of System 6 boards, sold a Stingray restoration project, and purchased a Gorgar, while also acquiring bulk backglass and high-definition glass inventory. George played new games including Three Musketeers and Beetlejuice (Spooky's festival game), observed the crowded new-game layout, and met industry figures including Don Bosworth (former Aladdin's Castle district manager with 600 games) and Brian Hawkins. The episode highlights dealer dynamics, acquisition strategies, and the secondary market ecosystem around major pinball events.

Key Claims

  • Spooky brought five identical festival games to Pinfest (same as Texas show), clearly marked as unavailable for purchase

    high confidence · George discussing new game availability and Spooky's logistics strategy

  • Three Musketeers has a display bug where the top player's score overshadows players one and two on screen

    medium confidence · George's direct play experience and observation during gameplay

  • Don Bosworth worked as a district manager for Aladdin's Castle (300+ arcade units) and operated a pinball route with 200+ machines before retirement

    high confidence · Don's direct statements to George at the show

  • The Stingray Dave sold was later put on the show floor by a buyer for $2,000, who had bought it to gift to his girlfriend and wanted a free pass

    high confidence · Dave texted the buyer and received explanation; buyer later clarified in message to Dave

  • High-definition glass from different manufacturers (Cointaker, Marco) may be sourced from the same vendor but branded differently

    low confidence · Dave citing unverified rumor about glass sourcing; admits side-by-side comparisons show color tinge differences

  • Pinfest now requires payment before doors open rather than at entry

    high confidence · George being corrected by attendees at Friday entrance

  • New games at Pinfest were placed in a narrow alleyway away from the front entrance, causing crowding

    high confidence · George's direct observation of show floor layout

  • Winchester Mystery House had 1+ hour wait time on Friday opening

    medium confidence · George's observation of line length at opening

  • Dave sold three Stingray backglasses on Thursday and bought them all back later

    high confidence · Dave's direct account of transactions

Notable Quotes

  • “For those of you who have never been to the show, if you bring a game, you get into the horse trading center of the universe for pinball on Thursdays. That's when all the deals are done.”

    Dave @ ~8:30 — Explains Pinfest's unique dealer dynamic and why early arrival on Thursday is valuable

  • “I have 600 games. That has me beat. A hundred.”

    George (reacting to Don Bosworth) @ ~15:45 — Don Bosworth's collection size establishes him as a major collector/dealer figure

  • “That's your game now. You do whatever you want with it. So why would you buy this game and then just mark it up a couple hundred bucks and put it on the floor?”

    Dave @ ~35:00 — Dave's initial confusion about the resold Stingray's pricing strategy before learning it was a gift strategy

  • “When there's a new game and there's five of them, you're not waiting an hour. I turned around twice, nobody there. Kudos to Spooky. Nice job.”

    George @ ~48:00 — Praise for Spooky's logistics and positive UX impact of multiple festival games

  • “It was an evolving plan in the rain, no less. I needed out of my trailer to shuffle all the other selling and buying games I was doing.”

    Stingray buyer (via Dave's text relay) @ ~36:30 — Reveals the real story: buyer tested the game in hotel room Friday morning for girlfriend gift

  • “Why polish a turd when you can buy a game that's better, take the turd, turn it over, and get rid of it to somebody who wants to restore that?”

    Dave @ ~57:00 — Dave's philosophy on restoration economics and inventory decisions

  • “I bought 10 sheets of voodoo glass from Cointaker, and then I talked to Marco. He's got the same price on his high-def glass, too. Same price. Different manufacturer? Well, the rumor has it... it's all the same. They have different names on it.”

    Dave @ ~62:30 — Reveals sourcing rumors in the high-definition glass market with supplier consolidation questions

Entities

GeorgepersonDavepersonDon BosworthpersonSteve PrusapersonBrian HawkinspersonChrispersonBruce Nightingaleperson

Signals

  • ?

    event_signal: New games at Pinfest moved to narrow alleyway away from front entrance, creating severe crowding and difficult play conditions; multiple games had 1+ hour wait times on opening

    high · George's direct observation: 'they put them farther away from the front door, but it was like a sardine camp. I can't believe how they had all these games. In a tight little alleyway'

  • ?

    product_concern: Three Musketeers has display rendering bug where top player's score overshadows and obscures players 1 and 2 scores

    medium · George's firsthand gameplay observation: 'My score, when it came up on screen, overshadowed players one and two, and you couldn't see player one and two'

  • $

    market_signal: Stingray sold for ~$1,600 on Thursday, immediately resold on Friday for $2,000 (25% markup); dealer bought working flipper kit for $41 (retail $59, 31% discount); glass pricing shows significant retail-to-dealer discounts ($40-$100 retail vs. $12 dealer cost historically)

    high · Dave's transactions: Stingray buyer paid asking price Thursday; resold Friday; flipper kit $41 vs $59 retail

  • ?

    collector_signal: Gorgar (first talking pinball) remains high-demand on secondary market despite 15,000+ units produced; demand driven by player nostalgia from arcade era

    medium · Dave: 'people keep asking for it' and speculation that 'people remember playing them back in the day as the first talking pinball'

  • ?

    supply_chain_signal: Unverified rumor that high-definition glass from multiple branded suppliers (Cointaker, Marco) may source from same manufacturer but rebrand; side-by-side comparisons show color tinge variations (pink vs. green casts)

Transcript

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0:00
3, 2, 1, rolling. Hello and welcome to another episode of the Classic Pinball Podcast. My name is George. His name is Dave. Hello, Dave. Hello, George.
0:18
Do we have a show for you today? Pinfest 2026. Dave, get us started. So you were there on Thursday. What happened on Thursday? Well, Thursday I met with five guys out of the 18 or so I was going to meet for all these deals I made. As you know, I was doing all those boards and trying to blow out a bunch of System 6 boards and get them out of my sight and get them onto different people that wanted working sets. So I met with a bunch of guys with different boards. I met the guy that actually was going to buy the Stingray, the Stingray project that actually sort of a working project is the one I was going to make a really nice Stingray out of with all the new stock plate deals and so forth. And I said, no, I'm just going to sell it. This guy was the only guy. There's something for everybody. You know, there's that one person. Well, he was that one person that said, no, I want a Stingray and yours looks great. I'll buy it for your asking. Which was fantastic. So I met him, nice guy, and he wanted all original boards in it, which it all had. It definitely needed to be shopped. It even had the little plastic in the middle, the little shell plastic that's always missing in the game. It had a little crack in it, but it still was there, so it was kind of rare to have that as well. So he was happy with it. I said, what are you going to do with it? It's like, well, is it running at all? It's like, I don't know. It's like, I bought this years ago. I don't know if it runs. It looks like it does. It's in good shape, but I've never powered it on. He said, well, I'm going to try to get it running in my hotel room. He's like, okay, we'll have at it. And so he took off with it and said thank you, and off he went. And then it had a lot of other things like this guy posted on Pinside from Ohio, and he had a Gorgar. It's like, I don't know, do I really need another Gorgar? I just actually sold my last Gorgar I had from the time I bought it from, actually, Ohio, from Steve Prusa. I bought a Gorgar from him many years ago when I went to Ohio. A.K.A. Aquaman. Aquaman, yes.

  • Gorgar is popular with buyers because it was the first talking pinball machine

    medium confidence · Dave's speculation about customer demand based on nostalgia

    • “I think it's because people remember playing them back in the day as the first talking pinball, and it had the pressure on people.”

    Dave @ ~54:00 — Dave's theory on Gorgar's continued secondary market demand

  • “There was this one van. She goes, there must have been a hundred people going in and out that thing buying stuff.”

    George (relaying Janice's observation) @ ~59:00 — Illustrates the scale of Thursday's horse trading activity from external observation

  • “It's like, I really like my spot. And we're just like, oh, yeah, Steve can get it down there for you. So they got in the two. Steve and me two-wheeled the game all the way down the parking lot.”

    Dave @ ~52:00 — Anecdote about Steve Prusa (Aquaman) helping move the Gorgar, demonstrating dealer community cooperation

    • Joe Newhart
    person
    Gary Shanleyperson
    Marcoperson
    Janiceperson
    Wadeperson
    Pinfestevent
    Spooky Pinballcompany
    Three Musketeersgame
    Beetlejuicegame
    Winchester Mystery Housegame
    Predatorgame
    Space Huntgame
    Dunegame
    Gorgargame
    Stingraygame
    Aladdin's Castlecompany
    Cointakercompany

    low · Dave: 'the rumor has it...it's all the same. They have different names on it. They brand it differently. That's the rumor' but admits comparisons show real differences in tint

  • ?

    operational_signal: Thursday's dealer trading session is primary event of Pinfest; dealers arrive early with inventory in vans/trucks; 'horse trading' of boards, parts, and complete machines happens in early morning hours before official opening

    high · Dave: 'For those of you who have never been to the show, if you bring a game, you get into the horse trading center of the universe for pinball on Thursdays'

  • ?

    product_strategy: Spooky Pinball deployed five identical festival games to Pinfest (same strategy as Texas show); games clearly marked unavailable for purchase; decision dramatically improved user experience by eliminating hour-long waits seen with single-game deployments

    high · George: 'When there's a new game and there's five of them, you're not waiting an hour...Kudos to Spooky. Nice job'

  • ?

    venue_signal: Pinfest implemented pre-purchase payment model; attendees now buy wristbands/passes before doors open rather than at entry to streamline entry flow

    high · George being corrected at entrance: attendees told him 'they changed. Now you've got to pay before' doors open

  • ?

    content_signal: Chris from Sick Hands RBN (YouTube/video platform) creates 4K 60fps walkthrough videos of Pinfest and other arcade/amusement venues; has significant production quality and content reach

    high · George: Chris 'does a really good job. It's in 4K, 60 frames per second. So it's a really, really well done video'

  • ?

    community_signal: Strong cooperative ethos among dealers; Steve Prusa assisted Dave moving heavy Gorgar machine despite competing for same inventory; geographic pinball communities (Ohio contingent with van) travel together to major shows

    high · Dave: 'Steve and me two-wheeled the game all the way down the parking lot...He's such a nice guy' and Ohio contingent 'come in the van with their parts'

  • ?

    personnel_signal: Don Bosworth is major collector/dealer figure with 600-game collection spanning multiple properties (Nebraska warehouse, North Carolina house, Florida home); formerly Aladdin's Castle district manager (300+ arcade units); transitioned to independent pinball route (200+ machines) before retirement

    high · George's interview with Don Bosworth at show; verified multiple property locations and employment history

  • $

    market_signal: Joe Newhart (Pinball Star) distributed marketing bags to attendees pre-show containing inventory lists, availability status, and pricing for all games; noted as 'smart marketing' by hosts

    high · George: 'Joe...went down the line before the show opened and handed everybody in line a bag' with game inventory and pricing

    • 2:29
    He listens, I think. He might. I don't know. There's enough Ohioans out there. I know somebody listens to us. Yes, he must. So, you know, so back then I bought the game, I was going to sell it to a guy who was hot and heavy for it out in Mata's Vineyard, and he said, oh, I have to go out the game home, I'm going to get it going, Steve did a good job, I was going to bring it to the next level, you know, to sell it a little more money. And he said, oh, no, I'm not going to move on that right now, I said, great, now I'm stuck with this Gorgar. Well, then, just recently, this girl named Dolly, and it's kind of funny, when I called her, I said, hello, Dolly.
    3:08
    Well, hello, doll. I'm sure she hears that all the time. Right? It's a satchmo. Yeah, a little satchmo. Hello. Hello, hello. So, yeah, so she said, I really wanted to, my husband, you know, always wanted to gore, guys. Like, all right, great, finally, I'm going to be gore-gar free. This is fantastic. And then I see on Thursday, a guy posted on Pinside. He said, I got a Gorgar. It was like $1,600 working. He showed me a video, showed me everything on it. It's like, you know, I could also with a Weebly MPU driver board all in one board installed and a Weebly sound board installed. So he had all that done and plus everything else in the game. It's like it's totally worth $1,600. I think he won $1,700 originally. He started marking the price down. It's like, well, I guess I need another Gorgar. I said, bring it. I'll buy it off him. So he did. And I met with him as well and got that. So basically, Stingray out. I said, wait until the Stingray gets out. A lot of horse trading going on. A lot of horse trading. There was so much horse trading. For those of you who have never been to the show, and I've never been on a Thursday, if you bring a game, you get into the horse trading center of the universe for pinball on Thursdays. That's when all the deals are done. And that's why people bring games to go on Thursday. I've never been. I never brought a game because I live so far away. But regardless, if you're going to go to the show, it's a smart move if you're looking for stuff. And Thursday's the day, especially, you know, so typically on... Well, Friday was the day, too. Well, Friday... A lot of stuff. Well, I'll say, if you're there Thursday, and especially if you're a vendor there and you're actually, you know... You're eating the goods before everybody else. Oh, boy are you ever. This is a couple years ago. Well, Fathom. Everybody remembers that. That thing didn't even get off the truck. I think it's the same dealer who brings this big U-Haul van in in the back area of the flea market there. He had a load of that. There's a couple guys already over there looking and saying, what do you got, what do you got? And he had a ballet blackjack EM, which is rare. I have a beautiful one, 120 made. And this guy pulled it off. He pulled off a beautiful Mata Hari. I don't think he paid much for him. I mean, maybe $800 a piece. I still am in awe that there are clean outs of arcades or warehouses. Or estates fail. People say, oh, that ship has failed. I don't think so. No, because you still see people vendored, specifically at Pinfest, bringing stuff that you know has been in storage for years. Yeah. The way I see it. And even looking at this Bally Blackjack EM, I started, you know, I said, hey, it was underneath someone's vendor area at that point. I said, hey, what's the story of these two games? Oh, we were here early when they unloaded this thing. We just, we bought these things. And they wouldn't really tell me what they paid for me. It's like, what's the deal? And I looked at them, and the back glass was a perfect original back glass. They're always flaked. Mine was flaked apart. I had to get a BG Resto. Right. It looks fine. But looking at his, it's all nice and sharp and clear and no. So I was like, wow, you did really well. The catter looked pretty nice on it. But it would be a good competition with mine. It's in pretty nice shape. And the Mata Hari was no slouch either. Nice graphics on it, all original paint, nice reds on it, good play field. So that guy did really well. About two nice classic ballets. So that was fun. Met Dave and Jerry over there on Thursday. It was kind of cool walking around because, you know, technically you're supposed to be a vendor or a free place set up. You stuck in. I stuck in. You didn't hear that, Bruce. Well, I didn't really think it. I had business to do. So I had some business to do. I basically was, you know, I had boards to give to different vendors that I wanted to get there during that time. So I was basically, I was Santa Claus with all the boards and different parts. I had a big box I was carrying around. So I had business to do there. So it wasn't a total like I was scamming or anything. I didn't even play, you know, I wasn't the kind of guy that's going to go on turning on people's games and playing either during that. I was there doing business. So, but it's kind of cool looking around and see what the deal was and talking to Dave and Jerry a little bit and what was going on with them. I met a lot of good people there, a lot of fun. Actually, a lot of people, it was funny, they said, oh yeah, I know your voice, you and George, a classic Pinball podcast. So this is the first year, this happened at Pintel. It happens to me more often. Yeah, somehow your voice is more. You have more of an announcer voice. I just have a very unique voice.
    7:44
    I have a story, but I'm going to say it for our next day. So, is that Thursday? Anything else to add? Uh, that's Thursday. Because I can control the beginning of Friday. Yeah, that's Thursday, so we can go into Friday. Okay, so Friday, I get there before 9 o'clock. I know that I've got to wait in line. I know that I want to get in the front of the line because all the new games get lines inside immediately. I'll come to that in a minute. So I'm standing in line chatting with some people, a couple guys from Long Island. And this gentleman named Don Bosworth, interesting character. I'll come back to him.
    8:26
    But they're like, hey, where's your wristlet? I go, I'm going to pay when I go in. Oh, no, no, they changed. Now you've got to pay before. So when they open the doors, everybody can just march in. I'm like, oh, okay, cool. So who do I see there? Bruce Nightingale. I shake his hand. I say hello. He has no idea who I am. I know who he is. I go in and pay. I'm walking back, and somebody pulls me aside, and it's Chris, and I don't know if it was last year's show or the year before. He's the guy who does the walkthrough video. Yeah. And the name of this site, I'll put it in our notes because it's letters and numbers. It's called Sick Hands RBN, but the I is a 1 and the A is a 4, so I'll post it. Go watch it. He does a really good job. It's in 4K, 60 frames per second. So it's a really, really well done video. He does arcades, amusement parks. He's got a lot of content. So shout out to Chris. Actually, I should say, hello, Chris.
    9:31
    So there was that. I didn't get another couple feet and guess who comes along. I get back to my place in line. They held it for me. Who comes along? Brian Hawkins. Brian's saying, hey, George, sorry that you weren't at. Fantastic. Brian's from Massachusetts. We featured him with, I don't remember the game. He had a bunch of games. He had a bunch of re-themed games. Yeah, but it was the re-themed game. Lost his face. No, it was the other one he did. Wasn't it a card game? Anyway, go back to last year or the year before. We featured Brian. He talked all about his game. So he was like, hey, you know, sorry you weren't there. You know, I was pulling for you. The people on staff were pulling for you to come. You know, that shouldn't have happened. You know, we had a nice chat. It made me feel good.
    10:18
    Now we come to Don Bosworth. This guy, older guy, older than me. And I open up when I meet somebody and it's like, okay, what do you collect? Especially when you're on a show. It's the icebreaker.
    10:32
    Well, I have 600 games. That has me beat. 600. A hundred. I go, okay, tell me the story. Storage. He had lots of storage. He has to. How about multiple properties? Oh. So, the long story short of Don Bosworth, and I know people know this man, he worked for Aladdin's Castle.
    10:55
    They were in malls, you know, arcades in malls back in the 70s. He was a district manager. I had no idea. They had over 300 units back in the day. That's a lot of, you know, because there was Spaceport. Weren't there other arcades that were at malls? They weren't just Aladdin's Castle. Oh, yeah, there was Dream Machine. Right, I'm saying so. Oh, yeah. So for one vendor to have that many, that's pretty good. So he's got a warehouse in Nebraska where he used to live. He's got a warehouse or a house in North Carolina where there's some games. And then he said, I have a home in Florida where I have three games. So when Aladdin's Castle folded up, he moved from Nebraska to North Carolina and started a pinball route, had over 200 machines, and that's where he finished his career out and then he retired to Florida. So pinball paid that well, he had all these properties and all these games, he paid, I mean, that's pretty good. Nice guy, great guy, so anybody who knows him, Don, I told you I was going to talk about you, so there you go.
    12:02
    That was the line. Then I went into the show. Ten o'clock comes, bell rings, everybody walks in. So go to the right where normally all the new games are, and they're not there. I'm like, oh, no. So they put them farther away from the front door, but it was like a sardine camp. I can't believe how they had all these games. In a tight little alleyway to get there. You can barely play the game and then people going in and out trying to get past you. So the games that were there were Predator, Space Hunt, and Three Musketeers. Oh, it hurts. Everybody was looking to play Winchester Mystery House and then there was some Harry Potter. So what did I choose? The shortest line, which is Three Musketeers. And Dune. Dune, too. You could have played Dune. I played that last year. We talked about that in the show. So I'm like, no, I don't repeat games I have not played. So who's standing in front of me? Remember I just talked about Chris in his video. His family, which I had met before. His wife Izzy, son Gabriel, and sorry, I can't remember the daughter's name. So we played. Rebecca. No. We played Three Musketeers.
    13:22
    What did you ask me? Who's buying this game? Yeah, who's buying it? What is the target demographic for this game? I can't figure it out, but folks, I broke the game. That probably was too hard to do. I tend to break a lot of games. It wasn't hard to do. I'm sure it was not really made up. Oh, no, the first thing that I noticed with the game was the score. I was going to be the beginning to be number one, but they made me number three. My score, when it came up on screen, overshadowed players one and two. So you couldn't see player one and two, and you couldn't really read. So I'm like, first thing, I'm like, okay, this doesn't look good. And I'm playing the game, and all of a sudden, I'm stacking balls on some habit trail on the right, and they just sit. And I'm like, okay, I know, sometimes the computer needs to just, it's like, that's it. And so Izzy, the wife and mother, is looking for the two kids. And I go, where'd your kids go? Oh, my daughter said this game's really horrible. I'm going to play something else. Thunder Turrets?
    14:31
    So I picked the wrong game. It's a new Thunder Turrets. I don't get it. And then, you know, you've got Space Hunt, which was right next to it. And it was like one dog barking at the other. Really bad. Right. I didn't play Predator. Line was too long. Winchester, as soon as the doors opened, it was an hour plus line. I wasn't investing an hour standing there to wait and play one. Probably never get the chance to play it again, but so it goes. So that was the beginning of the show.
    15:08
    I finally found you. A couple hours later. I got there actually the first time. Right, but I never saw you. I got up early and I got there early before opening. It was rare for me. But I didn't see you for like two hours. It was like after 11 o'clock. I was doing deals then. I kept doing deals. I wanted to get all the deals done so I could kind of relax a little bit. And I was moving. I was making it happen. So we finally linked up and I guess this is a good spot to talk about the game you sold. Because you're like, oh, my game's on the floor. The game, the Stingray he sold is on the floor. He goes, you want to go see it? I'm like, sure I do. And I wanted to play. And I wasn't sure at first. Backtrack a little bit. On a Thursday, I actually sold three remaining Stingray backglasses. I sold all my stuff. The Stingray's gone Thursday. The Stingray backglasses, all three of them, they were gone too. People very appreciated. I had the backglasses in the game. So now I'm walking up and I see this Stingray. It's like, wow, a Stingray is working. Wow, it wants two grand for it. I look at it, it's like, this looks really familiar. Let me see here. I looked at the head of the game. The frame is a little bit painted. It's like, yeah, that's mine. I looked at the center plastic with the seashell. It's cracked just like mine. It's like, this is my game. This is my game. Do you remember what I did with that plastic? Yeah, you bashed the shit out of it. He said, let's try to break it. I said, George, that's not in the spirit of pinball trying to break someone's stuff, George. It was already broken and it was spinning around on one of the posts. It was a feature. It was a feature, but if it was me putting a game on the floor, I would have at least taken a little bit of... Oh, you would have clubbed me. You would have come up and hit me this way. No, I would have taken some scotch tape or some tape and just tape it together so it wouldn't be, you know... But whoever put it on the floor, the original rubbers from 1979 were still on. I didn't do anything to this game. This guy got it working, but he didn't shop it. He just threw it out there.
    17:11
    And so then I'm like, there's a story here. I can put it on the thread. It's like, what is the story? It's like, I'm not pissed about it. That's someone, hats off to you. It's your game now. You do whatever you want with it. So it's like, so why would you buy this game and then just mark it up a couple hundred bucks and put it on the floor? And I said, do you want to get free maybe? You know, you're not really saving that much. And then I looked at the name and phone number. It's like, that doesn't match the name and phone number that I dealt with. So it's a different guy. So this guy, I'll think about he bought the game for me, worked on it in his hotel room, and then sold it somehow Friday morning. Then brought it in, and then it set up. I don't get it. So, so Curio, he got the best of me, and I basically looked it up, and I basically texted him, and he said, here's what he said.
    18:05
    He said, hi Dave, the story about the game, it was for my buddy to give to his girl as a present, and he wanted a free pass, so he replaced the rectifier and NPU, and sorted out some bad pins on the connectors to test it more before he brought it home. He just put a high price on it. It's home so it wouldn't sell. It's home now and we'll keep fixing it up before giving it to her. And I said, got it. That's a great plan. Then he said, well, it was an evolving plan in the rain, no less. I needed out of my trailer to shuffle all the other selling and buying games I was doing. I was impressed that we resolved the issues so quickly, LOL. I wouldn't recommend doing it again, though. My other buddy bought a Stingray at the show, too. And then a third friend sold a third Stingray. It was kind of quite the comical with all of us running around with Stingrays. And me with the three best Stingrays, so it was another Stingray year with all these Stingrays flying around.
    19:02
    Or Stingrays, depending on what they're doing. So I played one of the new games, and I liked it. Would I buy it? No, you can't buy it. Pokemon? No, I'll come to that in a second. Beetlejuice. Yeah, I kind of like that game. So here's the mystery for him. I wouldn't buy it, though. I heard on another podcast that Spooky had five festival games. Started with it either in Florida, I think, with the five games. Took it to Texas for that show for the same five games. And there were five games there. I'm going to say five games by the same title or five or five? Five. Beautiful. Okay. All the same, but there's big signs on them, you can't buy this, they're unavailable.
    19:50
    So, I don't think they were games that people bought. I think these were sample games that they provided. Fun game, I wouldn't go buy it, but I went back and played it. And there was no lines, that was the best part. When there's a new game and there's five of them, you're not waiting an hour. I turned around twice, nobody there. I'm like, okay, I'll play another game. Nobody's here, which is great. Everything else was jam-packed, but five games makes a big difference, especially in Allentown. Normally, they only have one of the new games. Very rare to see multiples. So, kudos to Spooky. Nice job. Joe Newhart, right? Pinball star? He's just a bunch of the same. Well, I think that was his boost. I think that was Joe. He did a great job thanks to the bag. You know, he held out little bags with all the games he had for sale. Smart marketing. Very good. What's the bag? What was in the bag? Like a flyer with all the games from... That you could buy from him. Everything. All the new games were on there. Whether you can, sold out, all the different versions, the prices. Smart marketing thing. He went down the line before the show opened and handed everybody in line a bag. Oh, great idea. Oh, great. I never saw that before. I thought it was great. So, you know, not throwing stones at you, Joe, but those Hexa games, those were his, I think.
    21:22
    Okay. And I wasn't the only one. Somebody on Pinside. I never even heard of this Hexa thing. They're brand new. Space Hunt. Yeah, excuse me, George, are you trying to swear at me? No, I'm not. What's going on?
    21:38
    So, I sold something, one thing, an NLSTR and rectifier board for $60. All right. But that's it. I bought something. I bought a cheap flipper kit for $41. Nice. Normal retail, $59. So, Steve Young, I asked the guy, I go, Joe, you're selling all this Bally SS stuff. Did you take a look at that list? I thought I sent it to you. Anyway, it's on PinSide, it's on the PinFest thread. He had all Bally SS stuff, boards. I'm like, why are you selling all this new stuff? He goes, oh, I bought all this stuff.
    22:20
    I had a lot of games. I'm trying to downsize. I don't need brand new Steve Young in the bag. Redone boards. No, well, some redone boards, but like the Flipper Kid I bought. Oh, yeah, yeah. It was brand new in the bag. Oh, okay, okay. It was stock. It's like, I bought all this stuff. I don't need it now. All I'm looking to do is get my money back out. So he must have bought it at $41. That's, it's $59. $5 for the same thing. Yeah. Plus shipping. Right. So I said, I don't really need one, but it's cheap enough. Right.
    23:00
    He was a good deal. Nice guy. Yeah. I'm trying to think what else. I do have something else. Janice pointed out. So I went back to the car, parked right across the street from the venue, you know, so you can watch people watch. And Janice was like, oh, my God, I can't believe that people watch. All the horse training. So the guy next, she said there was this one van. She goes, there must have been a hundred people going in and out that thing buying stuff. You know, whether it was pre-sold or not, who knows. But next to us was this pickup truck and a guy sitting on the tailgate. And Chance overheard the conversation. Basically, one friend reprimanding the other friend, why did you lock the keys in the truck?
    23:47
    So I kind of felt bad for him. And his two friends came later and I gave them all beers. I'm like, you guys look, because they're waiting for, it was Wade. You sold Wade some boardfights. Yeah, Wade, yeah. It was him, his buddy Chris, and this guy Billy who lives nearby. Billy had to call his kid 25 minutes away and say, get in the car and come bring me the keys so we can get out of here. So I hung out with those guys. Wade was from Madison, Wisconsin. Yeah. Chris, I think he flew in. Right, yeah. Chris was from Michigan. So I was kind of surprised that people had come that far, but they understood. They were like, oh, no, no, this is a good show. Oh, yeah. You want to come to this. Very unique show with all the flea markets. So there's that, and then I had lunch with your wife and my wife. We went, I told the guy I would pitch him. You want to be entertained. There's a floor show at this particular stall. Foods of the Mediterranean.
    24:45
    I don't remember the gentleman's name. I have a picture of him so I would remember. Omar. Oh, probably. Whatever his name is, I said, I'm going to put you on my podcast. So if somebody goes to the farmer's market that lives in Allentown, go and visit the guy and say, hey, you're famous now. You're on the Classic Pinball Podcast. I would recommend Good Heroes, Great Heroes, actually.
    25:09
    So that was kind of that. Well, I got some stuff. I got, you know. We haven't talked about the other game. Oh, I got that too. I want to go back to Gorgar. So Gorgar, he said, hey, you want to do this deal? We're at the Cleveland Browns. We're on the park a lot. We've got a Cleveland Browns flag flying at our van. I guess they're the Ohio contingent every year. It's like four or five guys come in the van with their parts and so forth and they go to the show. So, okay, yeah, so I said, yeah, I'll meet you. I've got the stingrays on the car. I can come get the Gorgon now. So I go over there, and here do I see? I see Aquaman there. Steve. Right. And it's like, oh, it's like, well, where's your car? It's like, oh, it's all the way down by the trees. And they're like right near the entrance of the show. It's like, I really like my spot. And we're just like, oh, yeah, Steve can get it down there for you. So they got in the two. Steve and me two-wheeled the game all the way down the parking lot, all the way down to the trees, He's such a nice guy. And, you know, helped me load it in the car, got it in there, and we had a good conversation about Gorgars and how they just, and I said, he said, oh yeah, I know people with like two or three Gorgars. It's like everybody has these games. And I said, I think it's because people, I said, my clientele wants them, I think because they remember playing them back in the day as the first talking pinball, and it had the pressure on people. So I know while I don't have a place for this game yet, but I'm sure I will down the road because people keep asking for it. Although this particular, no, I do have a place for this game. This particular game is going to go to, is a guy in New Hampshire that I picked up a Gorgar from and he wanted me to restore it because the Pinball Duds out of Florida there, you know, they didn't really, I don't know, do what they, I don't know. It was kind of a wreck. People have heard you talk about them and know what kind of quality that you think they deliver. But to that point, Gary Shanley said, hey, I know what you're saying about the dudes on there, but they've done me right. They've sold me high-end games, and I'm happy with their stuff. And it's like, okay, so maybe they have a high-end clientele to do a really super-duper thing with. Stern and I, people who know what they're buying versus people who don't. People who don't usually get taken advantage of. This is the guy who don't. And so he got taken advantage of. Anyway, so the game I got back from him, it has holes in the cabinet. It's this and that. It's just like, and he wants me to make it this really nice thing. He wants to spend really big money with me to make it this showpiece. And it's like, okay, well, I think about it. It's like, well, I could do a bunch of things in this game. Yeah, why polish a turd when you can buy a game that's better, take the turd, turn it over, And get rid of it to somebody who wants to restore that. Why insert energy if you don't have to? Especially a game that sold how many units? You know, 15,000? At least 15 or 18,000, whatever it is. I don't have the number in front of you. A lot. It's a lot. So that's why I said, great, I will buy this Ohio one. It's all, you know, I don't know, 80% there at least anyway. Versus the other game is like 60 or 50% there. So my plan is to take the Ohio one, do my craft on that one, make it really nice, and that goes back. New Hampshire, the New Hampshire game, I'll keep that in stock and I'll do that for a little better price for someone who doesn't want over the top rest of a decent playing game. That'll be for that one. So that's going to work out. Everybody's going to win on that one.
    28:43
    Then the glass deal. So now I'm starting to load the car up. I'm starting to say, okay, I've got to put this game in there. Say, okay, I'm not going to probably buy another game, so I have room for all this stuff and we'll fit it all in there. I was going to buy such a really good deal on high-def glass that I bought. I can't believe the amount of glass you bought. I bought 10 sheets of voodoo glass from Cointaker, and then I talked to Marco. He's got the same price on his high-def glass, too. Same price. Different manufacturer?
    29:14
    Well, the rumor has it. I'm not going to say where I got the rumor from. It's all the same. They have different names on it. They brand it differently. That's the rumor. Now, you go online, someone in Pin said, oh, I have this thing here, this thing here, this is it. So nobody's done side by side? No, they're done by side by side, and they say this one looks clearer than this one. And some have a little bit of a pink tinge to them with a light on it. Some people have a green tinge to it. So there is some differences somewhere. So I don't know. So the rumor might be false. I don't know. But that's the thing there. So the thing is with Marco's high def, he had it all in like plastic sheets, plastic sheets. I can't stack 10 sheets with plastic flying all over the place. They had them all boxed up for me at Cointake that I ordered ahead of time. They had two in a box. I just stacked box up top of the box. I remember when I bought the Danone Route 1 in Norwood. I can't remember. Yes, that's all. That was such a deal. Who's to that? Benson. Right. Yeah. I bought glass in there. Same thing. I bought a crap one of the boxes. It usually comes five in a box.
    30:19
    You know what? To go over the years, how much glass have I bought? I bought several runs of that glass at Bettson years ago. Like, I don't know, I must have bought at least 50 sheets from them anyway. Then a couple of years later, I made a deal with Joe, a pinball star. He was taking all his regular glass off his games and putting it all high-def glass. So technically used, but unused. Unused. And I bought that for, you know, pennies on the dollar, and I stacked that stuff in the car years ago, like, like three times I went out there. Right, but the price was good there. I mean, you could get a regular sheet of glass for $40. I was getting it. That's a good deal. I was getting it for $12. You know what I'm saying right now? $40 is good. Go to the glass store. Right. $100. Easy. Without blinking. $40 is good. Especially if you have oversized or undersized. That's why I bought last year from Ivan the Paragon glass. Right. You only had five sheets. Right. I'm like, give me a sheet because that's expensive if you try to get it made. $40 is good. $8.50 a glass is better. I paid $8.50, $10 a sheet way back when for a new glass. So it kind of goes to show you how many games have I restored, how much black I've gone through. I've gone through, I don't know, a couple hundred sheets of glass. That's a couple hundred games. I've replaced every sheet on my game. That's 13 games. Yeah. So it's easy to do. I don't invest in the voodoo glass, but. That's great stuff. Right.
    31:42
    It's not me. Yeah. I like it. So do you want me to tell the story of who I saw? Who I ran across? Go ahead. Who do you run across? Do I know this person? Yes. I told you the story. Okay. You're in pressure. Remember? Because I forget. We have so many stories. So I'm walking the floor. I don't know. I think it's before I found you or I found you. I had to go do something. And I'm walking behind somebody with a blue shirt, a blue sweatshirt. And I go, Gabe? He turns around, folks, yes, indeed it was Gabe DiDunzio from Pintastic, and we had a very nice, cordial conversation.
    32:27
    But there's more to the story. I saw him later on, so I'll come to that in a few minutes. Okay. I saw him, too, actually. He went right to the, he liked the foe like I do, or fa, and he's having foe, not having the foe talking to him across the way. For lunch. Yeah. So there was that. Another new game. Shout out to somebody I know for over 20 years, Brian Rochek. He's an op in Pennsylvania. Sorry, Brian, you didn't send me the name of the bowling alley next show.
    33:02
    He operates games. He brought a brand new Pokemon Pro to the show. And I played it. Not bad. I thought it was a decent game. I wouldn't go buy one. I'm not a Pokemon fan, but I thought it was great that he bought a brand new game. Nobody there playing it. I thought that was really strange. It was just in the rows of all pinballs in the free area. And there wasn't any of the distributor booths, which I thought was really strange. I mean, that's got to be the biggest sound game going right now. Got to be. I played it. I don't get it, but, you know. You don't have to get it. You're not the audience. You're not the audience. So that was pretty much the day. I mean, I was only there for six hours, six and a half hours. It goes quick.
    33:57
    I mean, a lot of walking around. I missed a handful of stuff. I've got to go watch Chris's video because I'm reading some of the synopsis of the video, and I'm like, oh, I didn't know that was there. And you played a game that I read about later, that Panthera remake? Yeah, Super 8 or whatever. I think it's Super 8. Yeah, I didn't get that. It's like a French amusement park.
    34:20
    Oh. Yeah, so it's an amusement park theme. Okay, so it was a kit that you could buy, you know, like the Bally kits. I guess they made 100 kits so you could refresh the game. You know, if you're an op, Panthers runs course, you change the playfield, you change the plastics, you change the back glass, big bam, boom, you got a brand new game.
    34:43
    Yeah, it was nice. So there's that. So anything else on Friday that is noteworthy? So we could, well, yeah, I saw a ton of good games that if I didn't have a collection already, there was like a beautiful supersonic there for like $1,600 working, nice cab, nice play field. Got blown up. And not blown out and not stupidly touched up and brushed on a clear coat. Blue and green and yellow. No, no stupid color puke LEDs on it, none of that dumb crap, and no amateur, you know, cabinet repaints. I can't stand that stuff. And then the other one that was a good one, too. What was the other one? It was a good, another good ballet out there. I wish I had to remember the freaking thing. It was a Supersonic and something else, but I said, wow, it's another great game that if I didn't have a collection ready, you know, There were deals to be had with the right era of game for what it was. So I would have bought that Supersonic and there was some other, I'll think of it later, there's some other ballet that was really good shape too, that was worth it. Well, I told you about somebody, I just remembered, but this is night after the show. So when you're done, I have some bar stories that are pretty good. Okay. So walking around the show, and then I'll tell you the story about Big Brave, Big Indian, Big Injun. Well, you and I were walking around. Yeah. We came across this game, and there's this guy, Mike, or Michael, who was playing it. Yep. Well, Michael had... Philadelphia Flyers. Right. Out there. And I'll come to that in a second. So Dave and I are standing behind him and we're doing our normal commentary. We're looking at the game. We're like, oh, look at this and look what this has and, oh, you know, looks a little tired here. And I see this guy, he keeps looking over his right shoulder. So finally I say to him between balls, I said, are we bothering you? He goes, oh, no, no, not at all. I'm just listening. So the game ends. He turns to us and goes, do you want to play a game? We're like, sure. So we played a game, and Dave is, you know, we're just being us, and this guy is now kibitzing with us back and forth. He's joining the parade. And we get done, and I take a picture of it. I said, oh, I've got to remember this game. And I take a picture of the person selling it. No, the person, not the person selling it. You did? Yeah. Don? Yeah. Big, tall Don? I took a picture of the car. Oh, the car. The car. Not the person. Right, the car. The name, yeah. So. Okay, so you did that. I'm looking at the game and I was like, you know, I've seen this game over the years. It started in an arcade down the Cape called Poets Golf Center. They have one there. It's tired. But it's like, you know, I kind of like this game. At some point if it came along for the right price, right time, I'd think about doing it. And I haven't really thought about getting another EM for a long time because, like, you know, you get bored of them kind of quick after a while. But something about this game is endearing. I don't know. Maybe because I like the bow and arrow, I have an Indian theme.
    38:05
    So I'm looking, especially I like the, you know, the cabinet was perfect and not touched up and not a new. It was a really nice game. The only thing I didn't like about the game was the flippers. The flippers were a little bit weak. Other than that, the game played nice. And I found a wild flippers a week later. So anyway, so cabinet, not a repaint, nice original, not carved up. Backglass, nice original, and basically I liked how it said Big Engine instead of Big Indian. I liked how it was clearly incorrect. Like, wow, I've never seen this thing Big Engine before. That's how I'm looking up. It's like, that's a rare game. Big Engine, they don't, it was a thing, they only did a couple of them for sample games here in America. They shipped a lot of Big Engines out, maybe, I don't know, 50 or 100 overseas. But the reason why, the Gottlieb factory had American Indians working in it. It's like, we're offended by that Big Engine thing. You got to change that Okay we change it to Big Indian and the other to two players Big Brave So that why most of them are Big Indians out there four players Big Brave is two player This one Big Indian It like I like that because it rare and it politically incorrect and it just a cool conversation piece It's a pretty backlash. And pretty backlash. And I like the play. I'm sure once you get it all done, you can put it up on your website. Oh, sure. Or your YouTube site. Yeah. And go through it. Yeah. So, and I like to have a play. The flippers were a little bit on the weak side, but I think because it was on all day, it was being played constantly.
    39:32
    And it was a nice clean example, so it's like, you know, I looked at the price on it, it's like, you know, it said, or best offer was price, and I knew who the seller was. He's a good EM restoration guy, Don Owen. And then finally I said, well, I'm not ready to make an offer on it yet. I said, am I going to be able to fit that in with the Gorgar and the 14 sheets of glass I have? Because I got four sheets of glass as well.
    40:01
    Okay. Yeah, we got that. I got four sheets of glass, four sheets of regular glass and ten sheets of high-def glass. Am I going to fit all this stuff in this van?
    40:11
    It's like, you know, I can make it fit somehow. So I told that, I think Friday night I let it go. It's like, well, we'll see what happens. And Saturday morning, I'm thinking, you know what, I should get this game. I'm at the place where we stay. I'm not at the show yet. You know, I'm taking my time getting here this time. And I don't have Don's number. I looked at the number on the thing on the card. It's cut off. I can't get in touch with him. It's like, shoot. So I said, okay. We didn't move the card when I took the picture. No. I just took the quick picture and the last two digits were missing. But I know who this guy is and I know Dave Matrando knows this guy. They hang out. So I said, okay, I know. I have Dave's number, so I check the date. Hey, Dave, I want to get in touch with Don. Do you have his text? Oh, he's right here with me. I say, great. I want to make an offer in his game. Will he take X? He goes, no, but he will take this. He goes, fair enough. I'll meet him at that number. I got a couple hundred bucks off, you know, which is good. And I said, okay, next thing is I'll know within an hour if it's all going to happen. I got to do a lot of begging and asking around for stuff first for me to just happen. So I had to go and text Stu.
    41:24
    PJ's brother, Stu, who you've heard us talk about. And Benny is his son. Benny's his son who plays at the tournament. He's a really good player. And I said, what's the deal today? Today's Saturday. It's like, oh, well, we might be getting out of here at one, depending on how Benny does in the tournament. Because if Benny loses, he's going to want to get out of Dodge and I'm going to go right back home with him. They can go like two different cars, but he still wants to watch Benny as long as he's winning. Otherwise, Stu's out too. So it's like, you know, one size is the whole deal. So I said, okay.
    42:02
    Then I said, can you take a Gorgar back with you and I can pick it up from you later in the week? Can you store it in your – Right, because he lives there a lot. Can you drive it home and sort of, oh, no, I have so much work to do, so I'm so busy. The garage is totally full. I'm doing a whole man. I'm doing a three-car garage with a thing over, new game room thing, so I have no room. It's like, oh. But I can get it back home for you. It's like, okay, how am I going to do this? Okay, how about this, Steve? Can you at least take the Gorgar head home with you and store that? He said, that I can do. He said, great. So now I can fit, I know I can fit two bodies side by side and one head on top, but I can't fit two head sides. And all the glass. In fact, I think that all can fit. I measured it out. I can fit it. It's like, okay, let's do that. And then I went back to Dave and I said, okay, tell Don we'll do that. So I had it all linked up. And then I said, have Don meet me at this game in an hour. I met Don. And then I said, tell me about this. Well, here's the, tell me about your game, Don. What's it going to do? Let's see inside. He said, super clean. Open it up, super clean inside. It has 111,000 plays on it. It's got a lot of plays. I was shocked when you told me that. But it doesn't look it. Inside the game. No, not on this. So he said, well, this was Dave Matrando's game. For a game that old and to look that good, somebody took very nice care. It's been through all these high-end EM collectors for a while. It's been go-making the rounds. Dave had it for a while, restored it. Then it went to someone else. Then it went to this. And then Don was the last guy. Pass around. Fathom around the hot potato. And Don said, well, I'm kind of done with it now, so I'm ready to move it on now. I'm going to move it on to the show. And so now I'm going to be the owner of it. So in honor of picking up this, what's it called? Engine.
    43:51
    Just post it. Hold on. So this is Big Engine. In honor of Big Engine, let's give the Big Engine theme song. We're taking in five stars, colorful stripes, and nobody takes a million. When pale face and red skin, bull turn two. Great thrilling and fighting, get them down, get no better, I'll cancel school. Ah, the good old days. We never used that when we did a show called F Troop. We never used that? No, it was, wasn't it the Steve Ritchie games?
    44:27
    I don't want to go look. You can go look, folks. We, you know, when you do 140 shows, you kind of, they all blend together. That's why we didn't blow up people's eardrums with that. I think you might have. They might have.
    44:39
    Sorry, guys. Blame Dave. It's all my fault. Blame Dave. Anyway, if you're done for Friday, I want to talk about Friday night real quick. Okay. So I left the show back to the hotel. We stayed at the Four Points. Now, this is going to sound weird to people, but I think it's a very well-kept secret. The restaurant there and bar is pretty good. Four Point Sheridan. Four Point Sheridan, right across from Doherty Park. Okay.
    45:11
    So, Jans and I, you know, been a long day. We're up early. Sure. Having a couple drinks. So, guy behind me starts talking about Pinball or I was, I don't remember how it started, but it's somebody right in your backyard. This guy Ken from Northeast Pinball in Auburn, Massachusetts. Oh, yeah. Yep. So we had a nice conversation. He was there. I think it was his son. He's retiring. The son is going to take the business, as I said to Dave. You know, he's got a showroom. It sounds like, you know, it sounds like he's got a pretty decent business up there, but he's passing the baton. So I told him, I said, I'll talk about you. I'll give you, you know, I'll give you a plug. So, again, Ken, Northeast Pinball. Sorry, I don't have the card in front of me, so I don't know his last name. Maybe later if I go get the card. And then there's somebody I really enjoyed, and I hope he listened on the way home to Episode 1, which I thought was pretty wild to start there. Wow, he started there. Right. That's an early game. I was going to start with episode one, and then I was going to go to your last episode.
    46:27
    I started by a kid. You're going to see some big changes. I'm like, yeah, that's going to be. I would have started the last one to go back. So, his name's Irv, IRV, or Urban.
    46:37
    And he bought a Twilight Zone. And if people recall, I think we talked about Twilight Zone in our last episode, you know, being a finicky game and whatever else. And I'm like, oh, you know, do you repair games? You know, because what you were telling me, you know, dial that game in. It takes an expert. Well, he's got a friend named, I guess, Jeff Green, who's, you know, a repair guy here in Virginia. So I think he's in good place. But here's where I felt bad for him. He's got a Cybertruck. And he put the game in the back of the Cybertruck. And he thought the game with the head on it, he would be able to get under the tanoo cover. Yeah. Didn't fit. Yeah. So on Friday night, it was going to rain. So he went out to Harbor Freight and bought a couple of tarps. And I actually saw him the next morning. We had an hour-long conversation. We thought we were old friends. Jeff was like, nice guy. So I saw him in the morning in the lobby. We were getting ready to go home and actually go to the farmer's market, do some buying, and then go home. I said, what did you put under your Twilight Zone to keep it off the dead? A sponge. He put a piece of cardboard. I'm like, oh, you should have had some two-by-fours or something, pipe, anything to elevate the game. So I'm hoping, I got to call him in the next week or so, but I'm hoping he got the game home without any issue. Because it was, he said, it's a really nice, clean game. I'm like, okay, cool. So the bar was fun. I got to talk about one other thing at the bar. It was karaoke night. Well, that can be fun and can be annoying, depending.
    48:25
    Janice and I were just shaking our heads. These two people, a couple and a guy, they were telling us, oh, you know, karaoke's fun. And they had playlists. Oh, no, this is our singing list of songs, you know, because we don't know who's going to sing songs. So each one of them had like a list of five songs that they could pick to sell. Well, I know these people aren't going to be listening. I said to Janice, I said, these people sang like you put cats in a pillowcase and were hitting them with a hammer. I mean, it was bad. When you say a song list, you mean I'm a customer, I want to sing these songs. Here's the five songs I want to sing, Mr. DJ. Well, no, they have the song list, and if somebody goes before them and sings one of the songs on their list, they'll pick another song. So they're not just one-trick ponies. They have a bunch of songs. But it wasn't just them. Somebody else comes over, and Jace and I are being polite. Okay, we're at the bar, we're drinking, we don't care less. Oh, here's my song list. So they want to sing all five songs? No, they're just sung one. Out of these. Right, but it's a thing. It's karaoke is like I tried to explain that. Oh, this is kind of like Pinball, you know, a little microcosm of society.
    49:45
    Karaoke's a thing. Like these people, the guy goes, I come every other week. Wow. I'm like, really? And I know Pintastic does it. I've never sat. I don't need to go watch a bunch of amateurs singing songs that I might or might not like. Sometimes it's good. Sometimes it's not so good. Like I said, it's like putting the cats with hammers and, yeah, meow. Right. Rawr. Right. Yeah. Meow. So there's that. We're at 50 right now. Do you have anything else that you want to end with? Because we'll cut it, and that's going to be Pintastic, and then we'll move on to our laundry list of other stuff. All right, so we're going to work a little more, I mean, Pintfest. What did I say? You said Pintastic. Yeah, whatever. He changed the name. The Allentown Show. Allentown show, yes. The Allentown Pinball Show. Yeah, that's how everybody knows. Exactly. Are you going to Allentown? Yeah, I'm going to Allentown. And you were saying, I wore it the other day. Oh, I forgot one story. Okay. Got to go back. So I'm leaving.
    50:48
    I go out and sit on the bench, and there's a couple of people sitting on the bench, and this was pretty funny.
    50:55
    Two guys, and, you know, again, being social, you know, just chatting. And I look over at this guy and I said, you know, you look like somebody famous in Pinball. He looks at me. He goes, who? Kayla? No. He goes, who?
    51:14
    I go, do you know somebody by the name of Bowen Carrings? No. I'm like, you look. I mean, Bowen's not a young guy anymore either, but this guy was late 60s, early 60s. Into the future Bowen. Bowen, future Bowen. Right. And I said, you really look like Bowen. So who comes strolling along but Gabe D'Annunzio? He's coming out to have a cigarette. In the afternoon, it was really nice inside in the morning. It was, temperature was perfect. Oh, yeah. In the afternoon, it got to be a hot box. So I changed shirts. What shirt did I happen to put on? Our friend, help me. Oh, crap. The Pintastic shirt. No, Joel. Oh, his shirt, yeah. Joel was lost. Yeah, lost his shirt, yeah. So Gabe looks at me and goes, oh, thanks for wearing the Pintastic shirt. I'm like, when I put it on, I said, I just don't want to see Gabe. And so he's saying, he's like, oh, so you're wearing that. I go, I'm not a bad guy, Gabe. Oh, I never said you were. You know what? I never said that. You said that, Isaac. This is why we should have a classic pinball t-shirt. You could have gave him to wear our shirt, Gabe. So I turned to Gabe. I'm like, here's the punchline. So I turned to Gabe. I go, Gabe, who's this guy look like without missing a beat? Bowen Karens. And the guy's looking at him like, who the heck is this Bowen Karens? And then Gabe's like, oh, you should go inside and have some fun. Right. Yeah, exactly. Tell him that you're Bowen. Because they would have to really know him. So I hope this gets back to Bowen, that you have an older clone. A doppelganger. You do. Yeah, I had to remember that. That was pretty funny. That's a good one. I'm going to go back to a little bit of how this whole little trip started here for a little bit of a rental car driving. So a little, I'll tell you for a second here. So, you know, I need Pacifica for this thing. I need a nice little stow and go. You don't want to drive a band. No. So you want the comfort of a car, but the hauling of a minivan. Yes, with a nice power to be fixed. And Pacifica happens to be probably one of the better hybrids. It is because... It's my choice if you're going on a long trip, whether it's two people or four people. They have a patent. They have a patent on stow and go. There's seats full in the floor, flat, no BS, no rails, no take the seats out, none of that. It's a nice, completely flat floor. Then you make it into a nice cargo van that's still comfortable and powerful and nice balance and the whole thing. So that's what we wanted. We don't want anything else but that. So I went there, supposed to pick it up on Monday morning, and then drive towards PA via New York on Monday morning. But instead of showing up Monday mornings, I know these enterprise have been screwing me before. I'm going to go there Saturday. They're only open until 2 o'clock on Saturday, a closed Sunday. Show up there at 9 a.m. To make sure you get the car on the show. Yes, it's like, okay, yeah, so hey, here I am. Oh, we picked, no, I picked the car today. I'm picking up the car on Monday. Just want me to be sure you have my car here. Oh, Pacifica. Oh, I'm sorry, sir, but those Pacificas are all being recalled. The third airbag or something is faulty, so there's very few of them on, but we can see what we can do. We have a Dodge, someone's like, no, I don't want to Dodge something or other. I ordered this a month ago. You guys should have told me this, and then it's like, hold on a second. They don't care. They said, hold on a second. And they're all young people. They're looking at a deer in the headlights. It's like, well, I don't know what to do. It's like, well, I'm going to find out if someone's going to do something. So I called the Framingham location, who I usually deal with, which is Fowler Away. They've done right by me. I said, hey, do you have any Pacificas for money? Oh, no, sir. We've had a really hard time keeping those in. But people that ordered them a week ago, we have 20 people picking up on Monday that ordered them a week ago. It's like, well, that's funny. I ordered mine a month ago, and these people here don't have anything for me. Do you have some? Well, no. If you rented from them, you've got to stay with them. You're stuck with who you did. Correct. Okay, so now it's a... You know it's Enterprise. You can't go from... Correct. So I said to say, well, it's funny. I could have rented a framing location. They would have to take care of me. You guys are not going to take care of me. So it all reminded me of this thing right here. People are going to recognize this one. I understand. I made a reservation. Do you have my reservation? Yes, we do. Unfortunately, we ran out of cars. But the reservation keeps the car here. That's why you have the reservation. I know why we have reservations. I don't think you do.
    56:07
    If you did, I'd have a car. If you know how to take the reservation, you just don't know how to hold it.
    56:19
    And that's really the most important part of the reservation. The holding. Anybody can just take them.
    56:28
    Let me speak with my supervisor. Exactly. They're talking to the supervisor, all right. So I show up to this. I say, oh, hey, we'll do something. I mean, we'll either get you a Honda Odyssey or something. It's like, okay, well, that might work. I don't know. I just know. That's not a bad car. Right. But you still got to take the seats out and you got to freaking. No, I understand. It would have worked, but it's not what I wanted. Right. Say, well, we'll get your Honda Odyssey. It's like, okay, whatever. So, we're going to try to get you a Honda Odyssey. That's not even guaranteed. So, I hope to pick up the car. Right. So, if you picked up, like, an SUV or something else, it wouldn't have the source capability. No. Because of the patented. David Stone & Go. The Stone & Go patent is what I am renting. That's what I want. So, show up there Monday morning. Let's pick it up at 8.30. I show up there at 8. It's like, hey, how are we doing, guys? And there's a bunch of people coming in. It's like, well, we got your Haunted Odyssey right out here. It's like, oh, God. Okay, let's go take a look and see if it'll work for me. So now I'm taking my tape measure out. Now time is tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. Measuring, it's like, okay, this kind of could work here. Where are you putting the glass? I've got to fit the game in here. I went back in, and so he's getting the paper. He's like, this is really not what I really want. I really want to say, well, hold on. Let me see what I can do. I said, what about that Pacifica right there? That was right there. Oh, no. It's like, it's all clean. Oh, no. Oh, no, sir. No, that's going, I can't do that. It's under recall for the thing. It's like, I don't care. It's like, I'd get in trouble if I gave it to you. Get in trouble. I don't care. I don't care about an airbag. I don't give a shit. The rest of it's fine. Right. So he said, oh, I can't do that. So finally, it's like, wait a minute. No, you know what? I do have a Pacific. I have a white one right over there. It's like, and I see it's like, great. It's like, well, why didn't you tell me that ahead of time? Why is this cop, why are you trying to give me this crap I don't want? Because they don't care.
    58:21
    They don't care. J.S. does the same thing. It's ridiculous. I got to keep arguing with them. She has Enterprise too, but she knows the people at the place she rents from. We have one right around the corner, but we don't go there. We go to the one 40 minutes away. Right. Because we've been renting from them for three years. Exactly. They do a good job. They get us what we want. Yep. I'd like to go back to them again. It's all relationships. It's like anything. I know. But the thing is, though, they keep changing. Let's not go into the wedding letter. They keep changing people. They keep... So go to the one in front of me. They change people there too. They don't pay him any money. They run on the trip. They don't even answer their freaking phone. They don't have time to answer the phone. The phone's ringing all day long. So finally he says, okay, that one there. And I go, okay, I open it up. Only 12,000 miles on it. Great. It's white. Great. 12,000. Great. Doesn't smell at all. Great. And start up. And then it says, oil changed me. It's like, oh, that's why it's here. I'm not saying that. Who cares? No, who cares? Who cares? Got mine. You know, so I got it home, said thanks, got it home, blah, blah, blah, and I got home, and on my paperwork, you know, it got emailed to me, it said, Honda Odyssey. And Miles, like, I called him up, now I'm heading out to New York. Hey, if I get pulled over by a cop, the receipt I had there is from Honda Odyssey rental. I don't have any. I have nothing saying this to my car since I'm driving. Again, they screwed up. Oh, let me see what I can do. Oh, I've got something here. So he sent it to me. And I said, no, that's from the rental car from last year. You know you're giving nightmares to everybody who's listening to this because everybody has a rental car story. Everybody does. That's why I'm saying the story. People can relate to this story. That's why Seinfeld did this clip. So finally, I said, fine. I looked in the glove box. Oh, this car is from Florida. It has a Florida registration thing in the glove box, which is great. I don't need their paperwork. I don't care. So it's perfect. So that was good. So then I'm saying, okay, the oil keeps staying low. I pulled over and I checked it. And actually, it was down really low on the stick. It's like, well, I could say F it, but I don't want us to fail. Oh, no, no, no. You go buy a quart of oil and throw it in. Exactly. That's cheap insurance. And I found out it's $10 for what it needs. So it took half. I put half in and it was enough. But you know, I'm going back to them. Here's the receipt for the $10 oil I put in. I'm not paying for this. You guys are taking off my bill. Yeah, here you go. I helped you guys out. You're just not going to get blown away, you know. Yeah, freaking amazing. Okay. See, that was a good spot to put the car store. Exactly. Because you know some people are going to go back forward. Right.
    61:13
    Yeah, there you go. No, I – there are a few people that listen to entire podcasts for whatever reason. I don't get it. I listen to them all the way through, but there are a lot of people that jump around. Right. Anyway, I think that's enough for Pinfest. Unless you've got anything else, we'll cut it here and we'll come back. One more thing. One more. One more thing. Awesome.
    61:38
    So now I'm trying to get everything in this car. Finally, the end of the show, getting things packed in, trying to put all the games in together and the glass, getting it all in there, and looking at, okay, what is the capacity, totally, payment capacity of this car? I looked up online, 1,540 pounds, and I calculated, see, glass is around 250 in weight, you know, my weight, my wife's weight, our suitcase's weight, Two games weight. And all together, we're around 1350. So we got 200 pounds of leeway. But we're pushing up against the edge there. Then I'd say, okay, what if we stop short? What happens? Well, these games are going to crush us. That's not going to work. Did I think ahead and bring any ratcheting straps? No. Stupid. I should have, but I didn't. So I put the glass up against me. Do you need a guinea bag with all the cup in it? I do. I need a go bag. So, which is fine. And I have that at home. I didn't bring it. I saw all the parts I had to bring. I just bring it. It just was crazy busy. So, what I did is I basically, I was at the, you know, Saturday part of the show. And who comes up to me? Mike and his wife, the people that came to my house from Connecticut to buy the Stingray Playfield, the Knight Rider Playfield, and I think the Sixth Man All-Man Playfield and some other stuff they bought. And so I took them a tour of my house and the games I had that day on that Sunday before the show. And there they were again. They say, hey, guys, you know, you don't happen to have any. I know they bought a lot of parts. You ever have any ratchet, an extra ratchet strap, do you? Oh, dude, I got you. I'll take care of it. Hold on a second. Go to his car. He gives me a brand new four-pack of 15-foot ratcheting straps. And I go, well, that's a little over the top, but thank you. I probably only need one. So I took it, went out to the car, took one strap, put it around the two games, and I said, okay, that's going to fit. And I put the games in there and stocked everything down, and then I gained back the other straps. So that was a godsend right there. That was perfect. And there was Stu taking the head. That was great. So all these things came together to make this happen.
    63:46
    So that was really cool that, you know, he stepped up. But he was a super nice guy in helping out. So, pinball people helping pinball people in their pinball sickness. So, that concludes Pinfest.
    64:01
    Yeah, you're right. Pinfest. You got it right. Good job, George. The Allentown Show 2026. Yes. We're putting it to bed. It's done. You got to wait another year. How's that? But I want to do it now. Okay, wait another year.
    64:21
    And rolling. We're back. I'm going to call this block our leftovers block. I had stuff, Dave had stuff from last show that we never got to because we're under time constraints and some things added. So here's something I pulled off an email I get from this guy, well actually it's a magazine, some of you might subscribe to it, it's probably, excuse, younger than older, called Nudge. I'm not even sure Dave knows what this is.
    65:02
    They had a publication recently where they were talking, I'll read the header, power ranking pinball machines by era. So he has put together, it's an article by this guy Rick Brewster, I have no idea who that is. Puggy Brewster's brother? Maybe.
    65:27
    He put Pinball into seven categories. The errors. So I'm going to start with his number seven and we're going to work towards number one. You comment accordingly. Categories of how is this? Categories of what? I'll read the first one and then you'll understand. Okay. So, his first category, last place, number seven, is later solid states in System 11. He calls it the Medieval Times from 1983 to 1990. All right, I agree with that. That sounds good so far. Okay, so far. Here's number six. He's calling Medieval Times Part 2, 1998 to 2006. Uh, yeah. Thank you for all the errors. Yeah. He's put, those problems are true. Yeah, all right, yeah, all right. Yeah, sure. Those are the dark ages. Yeah, some dark, yeah, some dark times. Let's get to number five. Stern gets legit.
    66:26
    20, 2006 to 2014. Okay, yeah. I agree with that. Okay, so we're at number four. I can't say the word, but EMs and poop. 1970 to 1977.
    66:42
    So far, I think he's pretty much there. Why the poop part, though? Well, another word. Well, I know that, but why? He basically dishing it. Look, this isn't my ballpark, but I do love a good EM. They're charming. And while watching players much better than myself wiggle balls around the play field, so basically he's saying, I don't know enough about this, but I know a lot of people like EMs. But it's not only for him. Not totally. He gets it, but not for him. Remember the publication. I think it skews younger. Oh, okay. These are more under 40 than above 40. They know QR codes in Fathom. So here's number three. Early solid dates 1977 to 1983.
    67:20
    Number three. So I've got two more to go. Let me read the other two and then. 1783, what do you say about that one? What's that called?
    67:29
    I can't say the first line. More squares. Yeah, that publication is done for it. I had a borrowed Paragon in my living room for about two months, and that was about 50 years too short. There are too many good games to talk about, all the awesome Stern electronic games, you know. So he basically likes SS games from 77 to 80. Okay, good, all right. Okay, so let me read number two and number one, and then you might want to put things in a different order. Okay. So number two is Modern Moderns from 2014 to present. And number one is the Golden Era, 1990 to 1998.
    68:12
    Okay, depending on what your Golden Era is, I get it. Golden Era for D&D. Oh, he's right, right. For putting a... Again, remember the publication.
    68:21
    What is the publication again? Nudge. Oh, you're nudging the game. Right. They make like a fancy magazine type thing. But I get, like, these stories. I get emails every once in a while, you know, kind of promoting the next edition. Is it called Nudge? That's the name of the magazine. I thought I said Jugs. Nudge. Oh, okay, good.
    68:47
    So, I just thought it was an interesting article. Certainly, I wouldn't put Solid States third. I'd put them first, but that's my age group. I understand why. They put those games in there.
    69:04
    Okay. Kind of weird, right? Kind of weird. Okay. I got a better one. So here's the one that was suggested by our friend and our cub reporter in Australia.
    69:19
    Do you remember what he asked us? Refresh your memory, George. Okay. He proposed, you got to pick one game from each era. So what's your favorite game from the 70s? And what's your favorite game from the 80s? He said to focus on Bally because obviously that's what we collect. So I believe his games were, if I recall the email, I think he picked Kiss and Centaur, if I recall correctly. Okay, all Bally. Grant, if I got wrong, sorry. What would you pick? So you're picking all Bally's. I'm going to pick Bally's. He picked Bally's. But I can pick whatever. I think you should stick with Bally's since he picked them and I'm going to pick them. So my two favorites. There you go. Go ahead.
    70:10
    My two would be, for 70s, I would pick Harlem Globetrotters. Good choice. And in the 80s, like Grant, I would pick Centaur. Those would be my two choices. All right. I would pick, I would probably pick Harlem Globetrotters as well for 70s pick for Bally. And I would pick 8 Ball Deluxe. Good choice. I don't own one, so tougher for me, but I get it. Because that game is the score. I wish I did own one, but. So, so that's that. So, last list, folks. Last month we read an email from one of Dave's customers, and no, I did not set Dave up, I didn't read the bottom, our good friend Ben, who is having a skateboard restored by Dave. He sends the following, I just listened to the latest podcast, another entertaining episode. I appreciate you guys going over my list, and I'd love that you didn't let Dave know he was doing a skateboard for me until the end. That makes for great content. Looking forward to the skateboard episode. I don't know if it's going to be the skateboard episode, but we are going to go old school. We're going to go down in the basement, and you know what? That's funny. We haven't even been down in the basement. We've been here not quite 24 hours, and we still haven't played. Well, we just came from Pinsfest in Allentown, so we just, you know. Right. So, Ben, hold tight. You're probably going to hear it at the end of this episode. This is going to be a super-sode. This is going to be a lot of content. And I'll go off another thing about Ben. And he emailed me four days ago. I didn't get back to him yet. Because I wasn't sure how he was going to take it when you stopped me with that thing. He said, hi, Dave. Hope you're doing well. I just listened to your latest podcast. I am so offended. I can't believe you didn't agree 100% with my list. LOL. In all seriousness, it was good fun, and I think it made good content. Looking forward to you guys playing Georgia's skate ball.
    72:25
    Cheers. That was nice. So good. I'm glad it's a good sport. Okay, your turn. All right, I have one from Mark in Madison, Wisconsin, Methos on Pinsdale. Oh, he likes to chime in.
    72:40
    So, he just did this the, let's see, back on April, oh, this is April 14th. Hello, Dr. Dave. I just want to say that I am enjoying the Classic Pinball Podcast and going back in time listening to the older ones now. I admit that at first I was trying to figure out the format at all. Oh, wait a second. That's the wrong one. No, that's the wrong one. We talked about that. There is no format. Hold on. Fast forward. Let's go to May 3rd this year.
    73:08
    Try again. All right. Here we go. Now he says, Mark, Nethos, Dave and George, great show as always. Glad the issues got semi-resolved with the fantastic show. I listened to it with my son as we were driving back from a trade, picking up a bonsai run, And the part where George was reading the guy's top ten list and you were like, eh. Then realized it was one of your customers, Ben. It was pretty funny. We were having a laugh and he says to me, who are these guys?
    73:40
    Hope you recover the stingray back on the floor for 500 bucks higher after you sold this story in the next show, which we just did. Sounds like you and George will be having a great time and just talking about that. I have to make it to the Allentown show one of these years. Sounds like there are good deals and tons of parts to go through. The Expo show in Chicago isn't known for good deals at all. In fact, it's the opposite. Looking forward to the next episode. Mark. That just made me think.
    74:08
    I'm taking it from somebody else, but we should do a fan thing. We should do a fan thing. Why not? At one of the next shows. Yeah.
    74:17
    Ooh, okay. We keep saying we're going to do that, but we never really get it done. But last week I got kind of messed up a little bit. Well, right. But, yeah, that's a good idea. Okay, I'm putting that on the list. I will explore that. I will explore that for a year from now.
    74:34
    So, John. If you're going to do more shows, you're not going to go to York and this is that kind of show. Yeah, that kind of show.
    74:41
    So, John Jolly was texting me. He loved the last episode we just did. And he's talking about his neighbors who he does not like at all. His neighbors, let's say, John Jolly's right of center, his new neighbor just moved in, is way, way left of center with signs on the driveway and signs calling the cops on his kids for riding their bike near their house or some crap. Some kids being kids, calling the cops on his kids. So not having a good day at all with these people. And he said something that basically, he said, yeah, they have something called, it's called clean up my chicken coop stress management thing. And it's like, what the hell is that? Then I said, wait, that reminds me. Oh, he's got chickens? He has chickens and ducks. Okay. But I think his, I don't know if his neighbor does too. I don't know, but there's something about, there's some kind of sign there that's saying, hey, come on over and clean my chicken coop for stress management. For then, you can do it for free, clean up my chickens, clean up my poop. And people are doing this and not getting paid for it as part of their stress relief. This is a little wacky. Then it reminded me of, I know about the same thing. There is a farm stress management program near me somewhere where a person in the medical field I know says, Oh, yeah, I do it all the time. I go there and I shovel horse manure all day and move it around and buckets around us and that. For free. For free to help her. Remember the conversation we had last night about the people in my neighborhood? They can't find people to do that. Well, they have to. They have to go to Liberal Northeast and they will have free help to feel better. So they can't find people. And one of the farms around here said, come clean out our stalls. It's about an hour, an hour and a half work. It's got to be done before or around 7 o'clock in the morning, so it's an early morning job. $100 for an hour and a half worth of work. It's called Therapeutic Chicken Encampment or Therapeutic Farm Stress Management. So it's therapy. You go there, you're having a hard mental day or whatever. Your N95 mask was on too tight for five years. Now you've got to freaking figure it out. So you're going to shovel crap. You're going to shovel manure to figure out your life, I guess. You can't pay me enough to do that. They don't get paid enough. They don't get paid at all. I get it. In fact, I think maybe they even pay. I'm not paying for me. If you're not paying, I'm not shoveling. I think these wackos are actually paying the farm. Can I pay you so I can shovel your horse manure? Sure. Come on over. I know quite a few people in this neighborhood would take you up on that. Okay. So that's that for that. I do have some stories from the field if you want to hear some stories. I want to hear some stories. All right. Let's see. Let's go with... The characters are always good. So start off with a good one. This is a really good one. Okay. Go. I get characters from different states I can do a little bit later, but I'm going to go with this one. This is a good one. Okay. So this is down to Cape and this customer from several years ago you know a good customer he wanted me to do some work on his game And I said, oh, I can do the work. I can also refresh it and make a really nice deal with Pinball Day Sparrow. And I said, oh, yeah, it sounds great. Do whatever you're going to do. Went there. I forget. There was some 90s ramp game. And when I finished that one, he saw what I did. He's like, oh, great. Can you come back tomorrow and do this other one, too? Sure. I did another one, too. Made them both nice. and haven't heard from a couple years until recently. He said, yeah, remember me, I'm so-and-so, and I want you to come. I bought two more games, and they're in my garage. He's like, you need a garage? That's kind of weird. It's his garage. I know he has a two- or three-car garage in his house. The other games were in his nice game room in his basement. Why is games in his garage? It doesn't make any sense to me. He's like, okay, yeah, sure, I can come down. I'm down in the cake visiting my mom. I'll come over and check him out. He's like, oh, yeah, I think one's in EM. It's a Gottlieb baseball wedgehead, and the other one is – So a pitching bat. No, no, no. It's baseball. It's a Gottlieb pinball. It's called baseball. And they made several games like that with a baseball theme. And the other game is Independence Day, which I believe is – I want to say it's a Sega or Data East or something, one of those. It's all Stern-ish. So there might even be a Williams. I don't know. I've got to look it up. People will know in the audience what it is. So, so I went to go, so basically he said, yeah, so you can just go over there, here's the code for the garage, and I wrote back, well, I didn't bring tools with me, I wasn't planning on doing any work, I had tools with me, oh, no problem, I got plenty of tools inside the garage, just go near the Diablo, there's a whole tool kit there, you can take what you want and work on the game, you know, it's all set. Them saying, okay, great. I said, Diablo? What the hell is Diablo? Diablo. I'm looking. It's like, oh, I looked on the web. So when you type in Diablo, I'll tell you what comes up. Type in Diablo. You want a Diablo? It's not Pinball. No. What is it?
    80:03
    Hold on. I got to remember what it is myself. So when you type in Diablo, you come up with a Lamborghini Diablo, a $500,000. A $500,000. How much was in the garage? It was in the garage. Did you take a picture of it? Oh, it gets better, George. Did you ride in it? Not yet. Did you take it for a ride? No. No, no, no, no, no, no. So this thing is kind of a rare car. I think it's $500,000 or more for this car. It's like, wow. So I realized before I even get in there, wow, he has a Diablo. It's great. So he has a couple games today. He's got his Diablo. He's got his prized Diablo. He's got some stuff. Oh, it's been a cool look at this car. So, we're going to go there. It's not at his usual house. It's over in a different part of town down the Cape. And it's at, it's almost like a warehouse thing with a bunch of different garage doors. And so his garage door is this one. So I go beep, beep, beep, type in the number. And the garage door opens. And I look inside. It's like, hmm, there's a lot of cars in here. Huh? The man cave. There is $13 million worth of cars in here. There are Ferraris, Porsches, Lamborghinis, the who's who of cars. What does this person do? 68 Camaros. What does this person do? Mopar Roadrunner.
    81:28
    1961 Mercedes. He doesn't rob banks, does he? No, he's in the high-tech industry. He's like high-up CEO on boards of many high-tech industries. How old a person is this? He's like around, I want to say he's 50s, maybe, something like that.
    81:45
    But yeah, he's pretty well-to-do. So he had a garage condo. Yeah, I think he might own it. I think he owns it. He has the money to own it. I think so. I don't know if he rents it, but I don't know. We talked about this last night. I don't know. It's a thing. You go in there, there's like... $13 million worth of cars. I don't care where that is. There's like 20 supercars in there, and cars on top of cars. It's like on lifts above the other cars, right? You have Maseratis. You have any classic car, Ferrari, anything. So I'm looking around and I'm looking at all the cars. First of all, I forgot where we are, what we're doing. Forget about pinball. I'm just taking the video camera and taking video and this and that. I'm just losing my mind. It's like, look at these cars. I'm looking inside the car. Look inside every car and the keys are on the seat, the passenger seat, right? Looking at all the paint finishes, not a scratch, everything is buff to perfection, everything is neat, like day room, show room new, everything.
    82:46
    Everything's on a trickle charger. Everything's on a trickle charger. Looking around, and then Maureen spots this 1961, I want to say a 190 Mercedes, awesome looking coupe.
    83:01
    And she looks at her and she goes, that car looks like you, Maureen. So after a while, we're in there going around, and after about a half hour I looked around, he was like, you know what, forget about the cars, we're here to do some work. Let's get the work done first. So we went, fixed the machine, a couple of switches. The baseball, the godly baseball wedge head, right? And all it was, he said, there's something stuck on. It was one of the, there was a double, they have a lot of double switches, stand-up targets in these games, and they were too close together, they were touching, and that's why the score was stuck on, like, eh, you know, it wasn't scoring right. So I ended that and found some other switches that were close like that. After that, the game ran fine. It actually said the game was, he bought the game in really nice shape. And it was pretty nice shape. He bought it from me. I don't know why the guy is not buying from me. I don't know why he's buying elsewhere and bringing it in. Why don't you just buy it from me from day one? You have a nice game. But he doesn't really give a care about money, I don't think. Whatever he wants to do. Then I worked on the other game, the Independence Day, and got that working. That needs some more work. So then we're all done. It's like, okay, it's getting, you know, we've been there for like an hour, an hour and a half. It's like, you know, Maureen, while we're here, you know, why don't you get in that car, get in the Mercedes. I want to take a picture and let your hair down. She has long blonde hair. Let your hair down. I want to get some good shots of you in the car, you know. So she's like, so she's cheesing up for the photos, this and that. And then, then I hear something.
    84:32
    I'm looking up, what the frick is that? Oh. He's got cameras in there saying that you're in the car. Oh, boy, George. What a faux pas. He's like, what the, what a, you dope. Like, what are you thinking? So, I didn't start the car. I wasn't going to start the car. So, was it him basically saying get out of my car? I got something. Yeah, something. I didn't know, I couldn't understand. It was garbled. I was like, okay, get out of the car, get out of the car, close the door, let's get the frick out of here. So we get out of there, I go, beep, beep, beep, lights out, door closes, phone rings. What is that? It's him. It's like, hey, yeah, your film machines are all set. It's like, yeah, thanks. I saw you admiring my cars and taking pictures and it looks like you were enjoying the Mercedes. Go, yeah, yeah, we did. We were. It's like my wife fell in love with her Mercedes. We just had to take a picture of her. Was he mad? At first I thought he was pissed. I thought, like, this sucks. I totally screwed up this whole relationship. It was stupid for me to do that. But he was like totally, after I said, I really love your collection, man. Yeah, he's corruptible. I told, I told. I laid it on thick. Laid it on thick, George. Take the spotlight off of me. Exactly. Add it over here. Exactly right. That's what I did. He said, forget about over here. Don't pay attention to that. I said, you have a Hot Wheels collection of cars. I love your cars. He goes, oh, yeah, we have a lot of fun with them. So he totally, he said, yeah, we love the cars. He said, how do you get these fixed? Oh, I got a guy up in Tewksbury that does Ferraris. I got a guy over here that does my Lamborghini. He has people. And he says, I order cars all the time. If they come to me, I order three at a time. If they aren't what they say they are, I ship them right back. If I need an engine done over, I'll take the engine out, I'll have the engine shipped to a place I know in Michigan, they'll restore the engine. He is like totally, and you know those three guys from Britain, you know the three guys that do a car show. Anyway, he writes for them.
    86:38
    You got them? What's that? You got to talk over it. You'll hear it. Okay. So continue. There's three guys that do a car show. Three British guys, car show. Okay, here we go. Not yet. A little bit too much of an intro. Give it a second. Top Gear. So he writes for Top Gear. And he's a big time car. He's known. Right. He brings his cars to car shows. Dennis said, what do you do about these cars? I drive them. It's like, you drive them downtown. Oh, we go to T with them. Aren't you afraid of getting him scratching those? Oh, no, I don't worry about that. Because he'll get it fixed. He has a chance. Here we go. There's only one thing that makes people rob and kill.
    87:27
    This thing will make you lie. It will make you see it. It will make you see what's up to the ground. Money, money, money. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Money, money, money. Boy, oh, boy. Yeah, yeah. So then, that was good. That was a good lead in. So let's talk to him some more. And I said, I just picked up a new car too. And he said, he doesn't feel the comparison he has. And I said, he said, you know what, once you, you know, come down sometime when you have your tools. I want you to do full boat work on my games in here. You know, take your time. You've got the key code now for the thing. Just send me, send me a bill, whatever. I'll pay it, whatever it is. Whatever it is, I'll pay. I trust you to do your thing. How many more games would you like to buy, mister? Oh, yeah. And also, I travel a lot, but if you do the right date with me, if you're down there and I'm down to Cape 2. The Cape Verde? No, he said you're welcome to take out several cars yourself. I can go take out whatever I want. I'd go take out a Lamborghini. I'd go take out a Camaro SS68. Anything. So I'm looking around. How about a nice Jaguar 12-cylinder, like looks like... XJ9. Yeah. XJ9 or something. Is that it? Or whatever. It depends on all of them. Yeah. It's the 60s. Early 60s. 67 with the refrigerator door hatched is highly collectible. I guess where this one is. This one is a high-end car. Yeah. It's not a convertible. This one's a convertible. Okay, let's see the board. Yeah. He did all the fun stuff. So I said, that'd be great. He said, oh, we do it all the time. I have friends come. So this actually, it's great this actually came around, and it's so cool how the universe works. But that's the cars, though, again. That's right. This is a cool car story. Right. So it's really cool how it's all over the world, because years ago, back in the early 80s, I was, you know, dating this girl back in the day, not my current wife, not Maureen, dating somebody. And I had a bunch of friends in that time frame. And my friends, they were all going to go out and he has his aunt, one of the friends, aunt lives in Hawaii, has a condo, has, hey, you and your friends are welcome to come out to Hawaii and stay for a week. And they also, at that point, they said, we're going to rent a bunch of supercars, Ferraris, Lamborghini for the day. You're spending like 500 bucks a day. Oh, yeah, that could be good. They got Porsches, and they're all, and so they wanted me to go, and my girlfriend at the time, I was a little bit, you know, pee-whipped at the time with his girlfriend, she goes, no, I don't want you to go, I want you to go camping with me. So I stupidly went camping with her. Dumb. I missed out on an opportunity of a lifetime to go rat race around Hawaiian Island with these guys. They'd go rat race around, they'd stop their cars, they'd change drivers, drive another car, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, race each other in these supercars. I missed out on that. So this now is my second opportunity after 30, 40 years ago. I get to an end. Cape Cod is an island, so I get to race these around the island. I'm not sure if I'm going to race these things, but I'm going to try to be careful.
    90:44
    I'm probably driving like five miles an hour. Nice opportunity. It's a great opportunity. So thank you, Mr. Mystery Guest, about that. So that was a really cool gig there. I love my customers. Especially very understanding customers. I was waiting for him to get pissed off and get off my property. He didn't see the cameras. As soon as he started talking, it's like, oh, it's right there. It's so stupid. I can see it right there. It's just like, hello, you are on candid camera. You dope.
    91:18
    Of course you are. You have $13 million worth of cars. You don't have a camera in there and everything else. Of course you do.
    91:26
    Come on. I was starstruck. I think he knew that, too. You'd kind of tell. And he saw me all the time not touching anything. I was just in awe taking pictures. I wouldn't touch in a damn frame, except for that Mercedes. Even then, I was very careful.
    91:44
    Let's go to a... Let's go to... Where am I here? Let me go to this guy. So, on the way, on the way here, on the way driving here to my house, I got a call on the Dr. Dave hotline.
    92:04
    And it went like this. It went, you know, ring, ring. I said, hello. And he says, hello, isn't it Dr. Dave?
    92:14
    Is it Dr. Dave? He's like, yes. Well, I got a pinball machine here. I'm out of way of Georgia. And I got a machine here. Where are you at? It's like, well, I'm in Boston, sir. Oh, is that Boston, Georgia? No. Okay, let me stop. Okay.
    92:32
    So, I played some music a couple minutes ago. I've got to be very careful, but I think this fits. This is another pinball. This is a pinball song. This is by a band called Hellbound Glory. So, while you're telling the story, I'll let it play in the back. Okay. So, are you out of the Boston, Georgia? No, Boston, Massachusetts. Well, I've got a game here. It's got some problems. Maybe I can ship it up to you. I don't know. Hey, honey, what's wrong with this game? What's the name of the game we've got here? I don't know. It's got some problem with the flippers and the pump bumpers and stuff. You know, I'd like to kind of maybe get you to take a look at it. It's like, boy, I don't know. I don't know if this guy is this tall to ride this ride. It's like, are you sure you're going to deal with someone close to you? Because I was like, listen, Joe Bob. Your name is Joe Bob? No, my name is not Joe Bob. Billy Bob. Okay, sorry, Billy Bob.
    93:32
    Maybe go get you, get Skeeter, and go to the garage. Did you direct him at least to the Finside site and say, there's a whole list of vendors probably in your area? I don't think he even understood that. I didn't know. I said, how did you get my number again? I don't even know. He never got that far. He never told me the name of the game or anything. So would you just hang up and say, oh, it's all. I said, well, I'll give you a call back. Let me go figure out what this is. Okay, you call me back. Okay, goodbye.
    94:05
    So that's Billy Bob. Billy Bob from Georgia. Okay. And then, that goes with it well. Then I got this other customer that tries emailing me.
    94:18
    And, you know, typically you've got to give me something to work with. You can't just say, you know, like this one here. Oh, is this the woman thing? Yeah, woman thing. The title of the thing is, typically I want people to, you know, go to my website, fill a quote request form. It gives all the data I need, takes some pictures of the game, gives you a ballpark what you're looking at, what you're going to probably look at for you to pay for me to do my thing with the game. I just don't fix your game. I actually do a mini restoration on it. Otherwise, you might see me every couple of weeks, every couple of days. I want you to do it once and done and you're good for a good long time, if at all possible. That's why I spend more time in the game. That's why I do what I do. Anyway, it says pinball repair. I said, okay, interesting. I need repair on two pinball machines. Are you available? Thanks.
    95:02
    I said, okay. He said, hello. Yes, I'm available. What two machines are these and where are you located? David, Mars Attacks a Medieval Madness. I live nearby. Okay? So it's not Mars. It's actually Attack from Mars. These are two high-end games. Then I said, what are the issues with the games? She says, well, I believe you've been out here to my house before. I look forward to working with you again. But what we were trying to figure out last night when you had this, who is this person? Why are they giving you very little information? And I kept saying, it's somebody who doesn't play pinball and they're making a call that they know nothing about. Exactly. That's what I'm thinking. So I said, okay, well, what are the issues with the games? I don't believe I have been working out to you working in games before, but I may as I've been repairing and restoring games for 30 years, so I could have, but I don't recall these games. Usually I can remember a game in an area that I've been in. We're currently away on vacation for a few weeks until mid to late May. Can you snap a couple pictures of your games, play people with the games turned on, and please fill out this quote request form. It'll gather information I need and give you a service approach to what we do, and I'll give you like a little ballpark. And she got back to me with just four words. Machines won't turn on. Okay. I said, so this is what I said when you were saying, you were saying last night, does she, does her husband, she divorced, going through a divorce with the husband dead, she just has these games. Right. And the kid's grown up. Right. You know the, you know the girl. Right. So I said, you know, hello, do you play these games? When did they stop working? You're looking to sell the games, get them repaired, restored. What are you looking to do?
    96:53
    Then she'll go back to me in a little more detail. The game, not games, the games stopped working about six to eight months ago. We are looking to have them repaired.
    97:02
    So there must be a significant, well, now you can't go any farther because you don't know who. It's the only data. Who's we? What? I don't have pictures. I don't know. How am I going to quote you? Anything. We are unclear of the right pronouns to be using.
    97:23
    Right. Are you saying politically correct? We don't know. We don't know. Just leave it at that. Yeah, we don't. That's right. I don't know. You don't know. I don't know. You don't know anything. I get very little info to go on here. Right. So what I'm trying to say is if you're going to reach out to me, just have a little, have your stuff together, a little more info so I can kind of talk and watch. Talk logically to it so I don't have to play 20 questions and hunt so much. So I don't know. This one here I've got to figure out. How about a phone number? You know, instead of back and forth and email. Sometimes I just wonder, do people call you up because they have nothing better to do? Are they punking you? Like the guy from Georgia.
    98:05
    It could be a punk. Is it somebody who's just punking you? It's possible. Maybe. But I don't know. Because they know we'll talk about it.
    98:21
    It's a girl, though. Whatever. Stay tuned, folks. Stay tuned for that one. Move on. All right, move on. So that's that one. Anything else good? Good. Let's see. Because I'm... I will say... My list is exhausted. All right, well, let me go back a little bit about... Just a little... Remember, this is leftover, so you can go back as far as you want. Well, I want to go back to Allentown just a little bit. So when we left Monday, we like to make a big trip out of this whole thing. We were renting the van for a while, so we've got like two or three rental on it. So we went to go to New York first to see our friends in New York, Kingston, saw their little kids, taught them how to play piano, and actually gave the kids that little miniature pinball machine that I did a deal with Scott near us, near my place, Pin Barn.
    99:12
    I sold him my second Stink Ray. He bought two Stink Rays for me, and we worked on a deal about, okay, give me some cash plus this little pinball machine. And Pinball Machine is a nice cute little kid pinball machine. It looks really sturdy. It works well. Flippers work, and it scores and everything. And it looks like a legit piece. It's from American Girl, American Girl doll, one of those things. It has like a 1960s. I'm familiar. I have two grand ones. There you go. It has like a 1960s theme to it, so it's from the early 70s theme. Did you look up how much this thing would be if you bought it retail?
    99:46
    No. Okay. So I'm going to interject for a second. Okay. So my oldest granddaughter collects, and there is a camper.
    99:58
    But she said, Mommy, I want a Barbie camper. So she went to Target, and the plastic Barbie camper was $150 for a piece of plastic. I don't mean to put other adjectives with it, but certainly not worth it. So, Jill went out looking for the American Girl version, which is $600 retail.
    100:32
    She found somebody on Poshmark. Okay, I've had bad luck with that place. But anyway, she does very well by it. Okay. She ended up buying it brand new or slightly used with the box for $50. That's a deal.
    100:54
    My granddaughter's not going to know the difference. No. She opens the box. No. Right. Exactly. She's going to be so excited. So, that's a lot of... So, my guess is... I looked it up just now. How much? So this thing came with the box, everything, with the box, all packing, everything. You know, for collectibles, you don't have the box, you don't have everything that came from. And I told him, too, when I delivered the thing to the site, save the box, guys. He's got twins, girls, right? No, he has a girl and a boy. Okay. He's got a three-year-old and a seven-year-old in New York. No, no, no. I'm talking about... Oh, stop. Yeah, two twins, two twins, but they're older. They're like going to college. But they collected it, and that's probably why he has it. Yeah, for them. They got them for a couple years. Right. A year or two ago. And they're old. But they only got a year or two ago. Right. And the thing is actually, so I looked it up online. It goes anywhere from, on eBay, $150 to $220. Right. That's what you can buy them for. They're all over the place there. So it's a cute little game. I mean, you've seen this thing, right? No, but I know what it is. Yeah. That guy right there. Yes, I have seen that. Yeah. And it actually works pretty well. I picture them. They're playing it. They're loving it. And the father was always after me about, I want to get a pinball machine. It's like, you know, it's like I'm trying to find something that, you know, I was going to actually sell them. How about a nice self-park? I'll give it to you for a good deal. Better than the deal I was going to give to the, you know, Allentown show people. And it's like, oh, we're tying on money, blah, blah, blah. It's like, okay, well. I said, you can always give me some money down and pay it over time. It's like, if it wasn't going to happen, I'm not pushing it. Yeah, this is an alternative. Here's a game for the kids. It's cheap and it's free and you guys have added. It's like a break and computers. Exactly. So that's them. So it's perfect. And the game shuts off, I think, four D batteries and the game shuts off by itself after time so it doesn't wear out. So that's cool. So I did that. Same time with them. It was a good time with them to teach them. I'm going to play piano. They had a piano there. Then from there we drove. It was nice. It was three hours there. And then after two days there, three hours to Allentown. We got in Allentown on Wednesday, and we checked in early, and there was like nobody there, which is great. So we got a couple days there before the madness of the show. So we got to go chill out and so forth. So we kind of made a nice little week out of it. And then, you know, then we're here. And then down to here. So we're going from here to stay with you for, you know, a couple nights. Then we're going back to Allentown again. Oh, yeah. Oh, this thing, too. I got to play this, too. So, so Allentown every year, if I can find this stupid thing. Let's see. Yeah. So every year when you go to the Allentown show, you haven't been there for, for Saturday, Saturday at the end. I used to go to Saturdays, but not recently. Okay. But if you say Saturday. Oh, you're talking about the farmer's market. The farmer's market is freaking awesome, but it's extra awesome because they have an auction because they're closed Sunday. Monday, Monday, Tuesday, all the way to Thursday. You don't want to bring anything home, especially produce. Produce. They're producing them to throw it out. So, they're doing dealings. So, we go there with our coolers, and we're waiting for that time. I think it starts at, they close at 6, it starts at 4.30 to start doing this. Here are the sounds of what you hear.
    104:30
    Super 5! 4 for 10! Yeah, good time. So we load up on that. They have so many good deals. They have the best donuts there. Forget about stupid Dunkin' Donuts. There's that corporate factory-made donuts they make now. There's no Mr. Guy in a Donut trying to make the donuts anymore. He doesn't exist anymore. We talk about this every year. For the people who are out of country or not anywhere close to Pennsylvania, I don't know of anything like this. And it is a food importance. People go there for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. So we went before 8 o'clock on Saturday, as I said. By 8.30 when we left, it was a full-blown circus. It was like mid-day. I was like, oh, people go shopping, and you know, nobody walks out with a little bag. Everybody's walking out with a lot of stuff. There's shopping carts filled. Oh, filled. I mean, the meats, the cheeses, everything. I love that place. Oh, me too. But I'm twice the size if there was one around here. Actually, the people there, they are twice the size. They are super-sized people that are there.
    106:08
    I got Pho every day there. I actually talked to the guy, the Vietnamese guy and his wife that run it for a little bit. And he said, I said, so, and I saw, well, I'm eating Pho there. I saw a lady come up and says, oh, I want to get this. Oh, to go. She's like, no, I have it here. Oh, look at this. He says, okay, that's $25. She tries to hand him a credit card. Oh, no, no, no, no, cash only. She goes, oh, cash? I don't have this. No, it's not. And he looks at me. He's like, I don't know people. I don't understand. No fault for you.
    106:41
    So he says, I've been doing it for 17 years. I am cash only. I don't want to deal with it. If I have to sell with a credit card, I'm going to raise your prices to make up for the card. I don't want this. Oh, I get it. Being a business owner, restaurant, whatever, cash is king. I totally get it. So, he's like, nothing beats the 50s. There's all this stuff now with the QR codes and all this stuff and playing with your phone and stuff. He goes, oh, they can have it. It's junk. So, he's like, we were like high-fiving on that kind of thing. He's pretty good. So, basically, you know, you know, foe is not my enemy. A foe is your friend. Like that, George? A little joke that I made. What do you think?
    107:19
    Crick. Oh, yeah. You got more? What? Yeah, pretzel wraps. So why don't, Pinside is all about, you've got to get these pretzel wraps. You've got to go and get the pretzel wraps. I think maybe years ago before it got, money got taken over by somebody. I don't know. No, it was still Amish. Unless somebody gave you an ungodly amount of money, you would never sell that. And I'm also wondering, is it just Pinfest where that's a thing? Because the line? Oh, it was huge. This time it was like the line on Friday for lunch was at least $30. $50, yeah. It was $10,000. I'm like, what are you? If you just wanted to buy a nice iced tea there, you could not buy it because you had to wait in line all the way. We're not doing it, you know? And I can't believe it. So I've tried one before and they're good. They're not great. I mean, I was going to say, guys. I expected crispy like a present. Yeah, a crispy present with ice inside. It was more soggy. Yeah, because they put that sauce in there. If they didn't put the sauce in there, it would have been nice. But I waited, too. I didn't eat it immediately. Oh, that's why. They had it better than they were fresh. I can imagine it was much better. Maureen got a pretzel there, and it looked like scrawny, like it didn't rise all the way. We bought it, and they go, this sucks. They went back the next day. Okay, this one's a little more real.
    108:43
    There's so much other stuff there. Like I said earlier, the Mediterranean guy. I mean, that was really good. Yeah, G.R.A. And the chicken guy downstairs with all the different, you know, all that. Everything down the ramp. Nobody, it's just like everybody stays upstairs. Everything goes down the ramp. You go in the first front door there and they get this stupid pizza there that's junk. Why even, I even, I don't do that. I joke to Maureen, it's like, oh, do you want to get a pizza this time? She goes, are you kidding me? It's like, yeah, I am. And it's a full counter. You're eating junky pizza. Now, I looked at him once. I already said, I watched them make a pizza. They have a plastic pack full of just pizza shells. They pull out, throw it down, throw sauce, throw cheese. It's a junkie. It's crap. If I'm going to get pizza, you better get the dough out, stop pounding the dough, do the thing, flip it around your head, throw it down. They will talk. This thing, it's like a cracker with sauce on it. So yesterday morning, well, no, Saturday morning, the breakfast place, packed. This is the one across from, down the ramp. No, halfway down on the main floor. Okay, not down the ramp. The luncheonette thing. The luncheonette thing, yeah. Okay, yeah. Okay. I mean, no seats. Across from the candy thing? Is it a candy? Yeah, it was right around there. Okay, okay. So. And that's the place you got the good stuff? No, no, no, I've eaten there before. That was good. Okay. No, everything else is downstairs. Yeah. The Mediterranean guys. Downstairs, yeah. The bagel place was really good. Well, you had a bagel this morning. That was good. Was that one of theirs? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Well, at $18 or a dozen, I mean, they should be good. Yeah. They were good, but I've had... Also two days later. Yeah. I mean, if I've had real... I've got a bag of place near me that's just kick-ass. Right. But, again, it's two days later. Right. They're good. Yeah. So, okay. But I would say... But I went back. I don't understand, you know... I would think a lot of pinball people in the show, they're not, let's say, going... Or moms? Yes, and they're not even going for the healthy stuff. They're going for the junk, crap, pretzel wraps, the fried chicken things that's all burnt and whatever, and any kind of greasy thing they can get, you know. And so I just go, you know what, you guys, go to the food place. It tastes good and it's good for you. It's like it's a win-win.
    110:59
    But everybody knows how, why do you guys say all this about the food? Because we know. It's a big part of the show. It is, it's a big part of the show. You'd understand if you go to the show, you'd get it. Because, hey, maybe you'll deviate next year and expand your horizons and try something just a little bit different. Yeah, exactly. And I've actually tried even the Korean place there. I tried that once, and it was good for something different. But it's like I just keep going back to Mr. Foe. Right. You know, loans. Loans is the place. Loans. Okay. Yeah, he does a great job. Do I have anything else in here to say? Oh, yeah. So here's another story from, so another machine story. So as, you know, that Star Trek Next Gen that I'm restoring for a customer down the back of the picture. I saw it in the picture. The one that I was going to buy? No. Mine. When you were photographing whatever. My game? The latest game, right next to it was. Oh, yeah. Right in the basement. Yeah, yeah. So six million, right? Six million was there. Something else. What else did you have down there? I had Gorgar down there, too. I don't know. That's something you were showing, but right next to it was $6 million. Yeah, it was $6 million, man. Right. What was the next gen? Yeah, next gen. So the next gen, as I probably told you before, but I'll tell it quickly again, I bought that for myself from a customer who didn't want it. And it definitely, you know, had some issues with it, so I bought it for the right price. And I started working on it and spending a lot of time on it, and I was maybe one-tenth of the way through it. And I got a call from a guy in Wellfley that says, I really want to start your next gen. It's the only game I want, and I'll pay good money for a nice one that you do. That's like, okay, well, here's what I need. He says, okay, sounds good. It's like, all right, well, I guess I'm not going to own this game.
    112:51
    So, Finisher's throwing that just about done. I want to try to deliver it soon, if I can. But that'd be that as in May. So now I'm thinking, you know, for a ramp, I'm not usually a ramp guy. I'm usually a 70s, 80s guy. But for a 90s pin, my favorite 90s pin is Star Trek Next Gen. And it goes against a lot of people, even John Day. John Day is a big space-themed guy, sci-fi guy. He has all that stuff. He doesn't like Star Trek Next Generation game. He doesn't like my Flight 2000 either, which is a space theme. So he said, oh, I'd rather have a Twilight Zone. I have two Twilight Zones. I'd rather have a Star Trek Next Gen. In fact, maybe I'll do something on a trade in that. So anyway, so now I know Star Trek Next Gen is going away. So now I see one come up on the Pinfest thread, this guy locally to the show, like 30 minutes away, and now I'm driving from New York to the show, and I said, listen, maybe I can stop by. If you're 30 minutes from the show, I'll stop by, swing by your place, and then maybe look at it and make a deal. He said, oh, yeah, yeah, and the price was pretty good. And I said, what about the game? Oh, the game, it needs nothing. The playfield's really nice. The playfield's nice. The cabinet is a couple little dings. But everything's nice on the game. How long are you? Oh, for 25 years. I'm like, okay, sounds good. So I didn't have a picture of this. So I finally think, if Don and Morgan said, you know, I want to get to the hotel. We want to have our nightstand. So I said, hey, before I go and make this effort, can you send me some pictures? I want to see pictures of the playfield, cabinet. And? And, yeah, I already know the punchline. Yeah, so the punchline is the inserts, clouded, the blue hot dogs there, they're all cloud inserts, like the clear is lifting. It had insert lifting from the clear. But, I will say it has low plays, so I think this had a factory defect in the play field, because the neutral zone holes and the other hole there, nowhere in those, those usually are chewed up pretty good, nowhere there. I said, okay. So I said, so I thinking about it, I said, you know, if I bought the game, it would bug the piss out of me. So then I started reaching out to my friend, Bill Davis, Dave Macy, who restores games. What do you think about this? Can I do easy fix on this? And he says, are you looking at a new play field, my friend, or restoring that play field, which I'll take it apart, lots of work. No, no, no, no. So, so, so, everybody's like, everybody's likely to be finding a playfield for that. Low, right? Mirko.
    115:24
    Mirko. Finding a playfield for that is low, right? We don't have to talk about Mirko, do we? Some people. Oh, that one, yes. That's a whole different conversation we're not going to have right now. So, I basically said, I said, I said, well, you know, I really appreciate the pictures. Thanks very much, you know. But I said it's really the insert where it's just too much, but I can't pull the trigger on it, so sorry for that. So his answer to me was, fine, goodbye.
    115:55
    I'm glad I didn't show up to his place and say, I don't like your game. He probably would have freaking, I don't know, pulled out a shotgun. Who knows? The guy seems a little bit unhinged. So I'm glad it didn't work out, whatever. Working with the public, my friend. So I just wrote back to him, God bless you too as well. I freaking left it. I'm not going to swear at the guy. I'm going to wish him a nice day. So, that was that. Oh, you know what I found also? This guy, this guy Bob. He had, which you can't, made of unobtainium, number 555 light sockets that go to all these ramp games, especially the 90s ramp games. I think even the more modern ones too.
    116:31
    Why can't you find them? Well, you can get them from Pinball Life, but they're not made the same. They don't fit exactly the same. They're a little bit wonky. They're not with the same mold. He had ones that he got from a distributor or somebody out in Chicago that he had old stock of. And the price was actually less than the price I'd buy for the ones that aren't that good from Pinball Life. So first I was going to get 10. I was like, well, they're cheap. You bought a whole bag, didn't you? They like 50 cents I bought 40 of them 40 is plenty Right So I got a bag of those which you can find these So I bought all kinds of cool little things for different people There was so much stuff to buy at this show that it's like you could just keep – originally my plan was sell the game, sell the parts, and all that's going to – it'll all pay for our trip. It'll pay for our stay. It'll pay for everything. Yeah. Then I started buying stuff. So now basically I spent money. But I did, but I made investments. So all the things I bought is an investment that I'm going to actually make money on. So update.
    117:39
    You didn't sell South Park. Nope. South Park still milled. Still milled. Price is going up. Oh, we know that. You said that last time.
    117:49
    You missed out, guys. The price is going up. Did you do a video of it? I did. A next video, yeah. Okay. But I'm going to probably do another video of it when I put some more stuff into it. I mean, I'm thinking of going color D&D. I could do a whole cabinet sticker kit on it, but I heard the one that's available, Classic Refurbs or something out of Great Britain. Dave told me, he's like, nah, I wouldn't get those because the DPI isn't as good. It's pixelated? Pixelated. Yeah. So it's like, you know what? Someone's going to buy it for the – a regular customer's going to buy it. Do anything with that cabinet. No. Because I think you might do more harm than good. Yeah, leave it alone. The play field itself sells the game. The play field is gorgeous. I agree. Even Gabe was interested. Even Gabe said, you still got that? Did you bring that game? It's like, no. No, I'm not bringing the game. I'll say it was pre-sold. The guy who also wanted it, who wasn't sure if he was going to come to the show or not, he actually said, hey, I'm actually going to come to the show. I wasn't sure, but I'm coming. Did you bring the game just in case? Because I could probably buy it for you. It's like, nope. I didn't have room for it. Right. Catch in hand. Catching hands. Then I just want it to go. If it's not going to sell cheap here, it's going to sell for a little more money than home.
    119:00
    Hey, you got, what's his name there, out of New York who will deliver a game for you. Help me. Dave. No. Guy from New York State who delivers games. Oh, yeah. I reached out to him, too. What's his name? Rob. Yeah. Hall & Oates. Yeah. I reached out to him, too. When I was freaking saying, how am I going to get this big engine home and all this other stuff, how am I going to fit it? So, you know, Stu was kind of hemming hard because he couldn't do it. I didn't want to pressure him too much. I said, hey, Rob, what do you think? He's like, oh, I just left the show now. I'm in New Jersey, but I could come back. I didn't even have a guy hold it for you. It's like, well, what am I looking at? He goes, well, probably like around six, seven hundred bucks. I go, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, that's a lot. And then I said, well, what if I just did, what if I, you know, it's like, well, probably more like $500. Now, if it was like a $10,000 ramp game, it makes sense, but, you know. But an EM, no. So basically, I made it work myself without, and I got a good. So we're going to put a bow on this?
    120:03
    Sure. Should we put a bow on it? What do we have for time? What else are we talking about? Are we done talking about it? I think we're going to stick with what I said. Okay. It's a nice day, so, you know. Yeah, sure. Let's go enjoy that. That sounds good. I think we will, as promised, don't be disappointed there, Ben. I think we will, either tonight or tomorrow, we'll do Down in the Basement section, and I will do that as a bonus feature. How's that? That sounds like a plan to me. So, if you stick with us, you know, probably another 20 minutes or so we'll play a couple of games and we'll talk about Skateball because it's the only game in my collection we have not done. Oh, one other thing. One more thing, sir. One more thing. You don't have certain games set up, but there are games from Bally back in the 70s and early 80s. We have not done. So. What are they?
    121:12
    Did I have? Did I have in my status? Well, right, but you don't have them set up. I would like to try to knock off a couple games I don't own. I don't have a list in front of me. Yeah. But we've got to go through the list. I can do that. And we've got to reach out. Either you have to set them up, or we've got to find somebody to set them up. I'll set them up. I've got nice examples. So, you know, games that we haven't done. People, if there's a favorite game that you say, oh, you haven't done this game, don't be afraid. Send them. You know, Bob's coming up from Florida in about a couple weeks, probably too early for you to come up. Right. But I'm going to do a midweek little soiree. I'm going to set up a big engine. I'm taking down Blackjack. Right. I'm putting a big engine in its place. Right. And I'm thinking of putting up six million up there, too. So it's going to be, instead of a nice four. Right, but we've done those. Yeah, we've done it. We haven't done big. We haven't done it. Right. But I'm talking solid states. Hmm.
    122:10
    We'll have to look back in the catalogs and see what we haven't done. I thought we haven't done, like, Electra or Mystic or – I'm reaching out to our audience and saying, if you have the game, let's change it up a little bit. Come on and talk about your game.
    122:25
    We have lots of games we haven't done. And you'll never set up or you might not repair. So let's reach out. Maybe we get a couple of people. Because I want to try to do more games because we've been known for that. And, yeah, we go off on tangents. It's, yeah, it's what keeps this show alive because we're not the same thing twice. No, we aren't. So let's try to find some games that maybe we don't know that are set up and we can talk to somebody about their game. Hey, some 70s games, the 70s valleys. Right. Speaking of 70s valleys, take a segue there. I just did.
    123:07
    Talking to John Jolly and he wants to take me out fishing and he wants to get a game from the 70s for me, that kind of thing. And I was thinking about it. He just said, oh, I'm going out with my buddies. We're going crab fishing. I'm getting these blue crabs and we're going to get some beers. We're going to roast them up with fire. All that stuff reminded me of, I've seen this commercial back in the early 70s of old Milwaukee, and I finally found it. So I played it for John Jolly, and I'm going to tell you what he said after this little clip here. Listen to this. It sounds familiar.
    123:49
    You can't bet you can't. One is without the other. You're the child of the old monkey. You think of the earth. And all the money. You think of the same.
    124:02
    I know it. It doesn't get any better than that. I do never think about it. You don't think about that at all? No, never. So when I sent it to John, he said, geez, that seems awful familiar to my daily life. Right, for those who did mention it. Jolly Oyster. Yeah, Jolly Oyster. And he wants you to come down. I want to go out and eat oysters out of the farm. I'm damn with it.
    124:30
    Got to get up there this summer. Anyway. Cool. That concludes this portion of the Classic Pinball Podcast. My name is George and his name is Dave.
    124:43
    Stay tuned. We're going to do, like I said, a bonus feature with Skateball. Stay lit and tilted, Dave.
    124:52
    Stay lit, tilted, and healthy out there. Cheers, George. Later. Later. Well, it looks as if our time is just about one hour. Just enough left to tell who the sponsor was. Who do you call and you want your pinball machine restored? Don't love you, Dave!
    125:13
    Dave! Who? Dave! Yeah, Dave! Right! George, you don't know what you're saying! You're under your control! George, we've had it with you. Say no rodeo, bro, Dad. Hasta la vista, baby.
    125:35
    Always feature. Love you, baby! Yeah. We're back in the basement. Yes, folks. New home, bigger basement, collection, all in one room. I know we in the past have done most of my collection on our podcast, but this is one game we've never done, which is skateboard. But let me run through my collection real quick. We've got Blackjack, we've got Hotdoggin', we've got Paragon, Fireball Classic, Mata Hari, Embryon, Knight Rider, Harlem Globetrotters, Bobby Orr Powerplay, Supersonic, Skateball, which we're here for today, Xenon, and Centaur. So let's begin with a couple of facts surrounding Supersonic. Dave, you can chime in. This is a Claude Fernandez game, and from what I understand, they tried or attempted to put this game out in 1978, but for whatever reason, it never got there. And in reading on IPDB, the center target bank was supposed to be one that retracted into the play field, which I never knew. And they never got approval, so the game was never produced. The drop targets? Yes, the drop targets. Supposed to, like, just disappear into the field. Oh, okay. That's pretty aggressive in, you know. 1978? Yeah. Right.
    127:15
    So we've got that. The artwork for the playfield was rejected for the 1980 version, and actually it was a group effort.
    127:26
    The backflash, I think, was done by Greg Freres. I always mess that name up. He did the backflash, so they saved that. But Kevin O'Connor did the playfield, and Margaret Hudson did the plastics. So, group effort on the entire game. And if you look at the original playfield, an entirely different game in 1980. They changed the whole playfield entirely.
    127:55
    So with that said, do you want to go through the elements of the game? Yeah, let's do it. So if we start with the plunge, we have a cross the playfield plunge. And I said to Dave this morning, how many games had that? The one that I thought of right off the top was Vector, again, another Bally game. And I thought of Steve Ritchie's Flash. It's more like Flash that way. And I'm sure there's a bunch of other games, but more, it's different than your traditional right-hand plunge up and back and forth from left to right at the top of the game. With this one, when you cross plunge, you're attempting to go up top and there are three lanes. Completion of those three lanes will give you the multiplier. You can get up to 5x on this game. This game also has three, actually it has four flippers, two traditional at the base of the game, a right-hand flipper and an upper-left-hand flipper. Upper left is a little two-incher. Correct.
    129:01
    So three bumpers, three target banks. So there's quite a bit to do in this game. I have my game set up for four ball. I'm missing one piece. There is also a spinner on the right-hand side, which is a big piece of this game. Where was I? Drop targets. I've got all of them activated, so you do get a chance to get bonus on every target, which is a, you know, I'm going for high scores on my game. Dave has a different philosophy. We're not going to debate that today. I want a tougher game, man. Right. So with my game, I have thresholds at 650 and 1.2 million. And then the mystery because it's not on the card, 2,000. If you pass that, again, you'll get an extra ball. So my game is set up completely for high scores. When we turn the game on, I didn't look before we started. I don't even know what the high score is on this game. But I'm going to give Dave a chance to attempt to roll it.
    130:11
    Gameplay. Anyway, the two bottom lanes, A and B, like them, like the spinner, goes from 100 to 1,000 a spin. So, critical. The target bank on the left, if you complete scape, on the right-hand side where the saucer is, it spells ball with a collect bonus and an extra ball. Completion every time moves you up. L for 20,000. L again for 20 plus 30 for 50. Complete ALL is 100,000 points. One more time with that target bank of 5 gets you an extra ball.
    130:52
    Completion one more time resets it and puts it back to 20. So a lot of tournament players will only complete it up to that point. It will not go further. Gotta be honest, I don't even remember the last time I saw one of these games because there is, in a tournament, because there is something you can do to exploit this game. Do you know what it is?
    131:16
    Oh, the B, you can keep shots in the B all day long to sit there. Correct. So if you want to collect bonus on the right-hand flipper, all you have to do is roll it up and down in the B lane. I don't think it's that easy. There's an easy way to fix it, though. You can clip that rollover lane to be a one-way rollover lane. The ball just won't, you can't get it, you can't go up. Oh, you can do that? Yeah, you can't go up, you can go down. Okay, I didn't. So this was not a very popular game. Although they made 4,150 games, Ops did not like this game because it could become exploited.
    131:50
    Even back then? That's what they said. People were shouting back then? That's what they were saying. Makes sense. So with that said, do you have any questions? Because you don't have yours set up. I don't, but I like the, it's basically kind of like, this game is, I call it a poor man's Fathom, you know, or Fathom on the cheap. Because the left-hand lane is like reversed, so you can, you go to the outside of the flipper feed, you know, usually go out into the out hole. On this one here, it feeds a flipper. If you do the innermost feed of the left flipper, it's a tendency to go down and out to the out-hole.
    132:32
    But you've got some rubber that you can bang off and you can kind of swiggle it back in. So there's a little bit of trickery going on there on the left side. I also modified my game. There is a, and you can see, Dave, I've removed that. A little pin? That little, well, is it a pin? What was it? A piece of metal like a U, it would always get caught up coming through, so I just took it out because it became an impediment. That's on the left-hand side, that left lane. So the gate is there. There's a little... A lane guy. Right, a lane guy. That's the word I'm looking for. I'm not sure if I have it on mine or not. Well, you can see the holes there. I have it. I took it out. But I put a Newell Stock Clearcoat in mine, and I don't know if I put that in there or not. I wouldn't put it in because, like I said, it's going to bang off and then it would go down and drain at the lane. So it's, the game's a little modified, but overall, one of my favorite games, this game was bought 20-something years ago from some people. I didn't see him at the show this time. Did you see George Riley at the... No, I did not see him. Yeah, I wonder what happened in him. I don't know. Right. He's usually a fixture. Anybody who's been collecting pinballs for any period of time has probably run into George Riley for good or bad. How's that? Sure. He's a little bit controversial. Anyway, with that said, you want to get into this and play a game? Yeah. So we have done, when was the last time we did this?
    134:02
    I don't even remember. Don't remember. You've done it. No, I don't even know if you've done it. It's been a long time. Anyway, let me start up. Yes. Here's the startup sequence of the game. We were going to try to do this since I have a lot of valleys that George had. We have a lot of crop over between the two of us. So we're going to try to do it since I'm up near Boston. He's down here. Both fire up our skate balls or whatever, and he plays the ball. I play a ball back and forth and do it that way. That was one way to do it. You got your work cut out for you. 5.7 million. Yeah, but you got extra ball extravaganza here. Oh yeah, it could be done. Obviously I did it, and I'm not the best of players. So, here we go. Let's put two up. I'm going to let my guests start first.
    134:53
    Alright, across the playfield we go. Lord, the 1, 2, 3 at times. Something I forgot to mention, you do have lane change on here, and what you're trying to do is light them, not un-light them. How's that? Correct.
    135:13
    So Dave's got two extra ready. He's a 10-inch. You've got a hold at 20,000 bonus, so he's only at 12 right now, but that's the critical part of the game today.
    135:27
    Another feature of this game is the center target bank. It's got a word I would use for this. There's multiple settings. And setting is the right word. What did you say? Difficulty?
    135:51
    No, all the different amounts that you can get by completing that target bank. So you can get 10,000, 20,000, or if you're really good, 100,000 at that center target bank. But like all pinball games, the target banks in the center of the game.
    136:15
    Take that shot. Beware. I usually try to trim on the sides and then leave the middle one. Or I use the left-hand flipper to try to sweep or at least get two out of the free targets every time like you just did. So Dave's at 3x. Another piece to the game is the completion of the target up top, so the target back at the top of the game. Top three, yes.
    136:47
    By completing all three arrows, that likes to foster and collect bonus. So, ultimately what you're trying to do is build your bonus with multiplier, getting those targets down up top, which I love to hit, which will give you, well, we've got two out of three arrows. Let's stop for a second. We've got, oh, there he goes. What, that last one? So, Dave is attempting to get the collect bonus, and if he does, he's already got 44,000 in bonus at 4x. So, he's already going to get an extra ball, so David's on the plane of blowing this game up.
    137:32
    Wait, wait, stop. So, look at this. 6.39, I need 6.50 for the extra ball. Right on the doorstep. That's pretty good on ball one. So, here we go. Up top, let's see if we can... I know it was the last time I played this game. It was a while ago. I only played it the other day for the first time. I usually don't play that much. The good thing is when I do this game for Ben, I'll get to play it some more. It's a playtest game.
    138:02
    It's a very colorful game, too. Very, uh, very BCC-themed, colorful. 25. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. And it had a 70s van on the back glass. Yeah, I remember Ben mentioned that in our podcast. I'm going to write three lollipops on it. Yes, I do remember that. Okay, so I need that upper target to complete collect bones.
    138:38
    George, where's all your color tube LEDs on this game? I don't see anything. I don't see any color tube. A couple of red bulbs, that's about it. Okay, did I, did I, I got select bonus. You did. You did not multiply.
    138:57
    You got a spinner shot. So I have that list too. I lift both lanes, so I've got a thousand point spinner. Now I'm going to collect bonus.
    139:09
    Okay, what am I at? I've got 2x. That's it. And I collect the bonus. I do have this game set up pretty easy, don't I? Yes, you do.
    139:24
    Right, but it makes for high scores. Okay, come on. The thing is, are you not going to go grab this for a quick game of Pinball before you head out to work? No, I had some hard games and I had some... I had some hard games and I had some guilty games. So I'm at 573, not far behind. Not far behind. That's not fine at all.
    139:49
    I think one thing is, I've got this set up for four balls. Okay, so David's got a free ball now. I can't stack them though, right? No, I don't think you can.
    140:02
    That's a little strategy too. You don't want to get two extra balls. Two. Uh-oh. Well, give me an extra ball there. I need that. So you need 1.2 million to get another extra ball. I've got 40 on the plate. So really, in order to get to 5.7 million, you really need to make it to 2,000, obviously, and get the third extra ball. But then you've got to definitely start targeting and skate in order to activate the extra ball. And that's the only way you're really going to get a super high score on this game. Spelling skate? Well, remember I said you've got to spell skate four times in order to get an extra ball. Or the opportunity to get to the next ball. There's one.
    140:55
    Right, but you have no multiplier. So you've got 40, 50,000 bonus, but no multiplier. It's a multiplier, top three? Yeah, it's the lanes. It's the three lanes up top. So what about the five-sextant, top three? That's good to collect bones. But the top three gets a multiplier. The top three targets, it drops. You get those down, you get a spot multiplier at some point. That is true. You're right. After how many bends?
    141:20
    Or you just hit the flashy. Does the flashy give it to you? No, I don't know. Because I don't play the game. But I don't play the game. I don't play the game for that piece. There's other easier ways. The audience is shouting right now, it's this way, stupid. Well, sorry. That way. Sorry.
    141:43
    Come here, Eric. Can't remember everything. Okay, so. I need an extra ball. Come on. I need an extra ball.
    142:05
    Seven-tenths of fifth, you're a little three-top target. This is the multiplier. You've got 20. He's got his 20 lit. I love that upper target bag. He's got the extra ball just now by score. He's got a flashy yellow arrow at the top bag. Okay, George is dropping it now. Let's go. Rolling. He's got 70. And I've got the collect bonus lit. I've got three times, so I really need to bring that around right now. Oh, now you've got to spot X up top. Oh, that was a fast. Oh, you've got the X. He's got four X. I've got everything loaded up, don't I? That is. It's basically kind of getting loaded here.
    142:55
    Loading not loaded is up because it's too early in the day. Yeah, that's coming. That's been the last couple days. You're going to have to start going to do these, I think.
    143:09
    Okay, come on, come on, come on. Oh, that drops. You get 60 now. Right, but I want to collect. Oh, down in. Not so much. You're going to shut that out of there. Extra ball for you.
    143:23
    I bet he just surpassed me. He's got... Now, does that stay lit? It does stay lit. Yep. So I didn't lose the collect bonus. These are not chairman rules, folks. Yeah, no, this game is set for high school.
    143:43
    That's a very generous... I love that top target bag. That's where you can make hell. I'm guessing you can probably shut that off so you're not getting bonus. I really don't know when all the... I'll be honest, I don't think I've ever changed the settings on this game since I've gone.
    144:05
    There we go. I'm going to look forward to setting this game up again and playing it in playtesting. Thank you, Ben.
    144:14
    So, I want to kind of stop here. So, I explained at the beginning of the game that the saucer on the right moves up from 20,000 to 30,000 to 50,000 to 100,000 by knocking down the skate targets. I still have two targets up.
    144:37
    I can knock that down, but I believe if I collect the extra ball, that's it. We reset and it goes back. I think I might have explained that a little differently before. So, I'm going to do it just because I can.
    144:52
    Okay, 3x with 70. Well, I want to see if it does. Okay. I don't care about the high score. I play nine more games. What do you want to find out? I want to spell skate so I activate the electric extra ball or at least get it closed. Maybe I shouldn't do it now. Maybe I do it on the next ball. That's probably smarter since I already have an extra ball. And I'm guessing I wouldn't get rewarded if I did do it. Other than the 100,000 points that's already activated because you're getting LLLA which is 20, 30, 50, which is 100. So it's lucid.
    145:31
    I didn't think we were going to play this game this long. I had a feeling. Extra Romania in this thing. Oh, that was right out. What's the next extra ball set? You get two mil. Right, so I just missed it. Well, that's it, two mil, so I already had it lit. I already passed it at 12, so I missed the extra ball. Oh, okay.
    145:57
    So this is it. So now for me, if I want to go for the super high score, I should knock all the skate targets down, activate the extra ball, and then keep going. Okay. But I'm only on ball two, so I've got multiple opportunities.
    146:19
    Going for the upper. Going for the multiple players at the top. You've got two in the power, two lanes.
    146:31
    This is not an IFPH sanction event. This is an unsanxion event. There's no Walker Points. I think it's set up appropriately to talk about it.
    146:45
    Eric Stone has to bring his sleeping hand. Okay, so that's 100,000 points right there. So this is how people exploit this game. They get that LLA lit. So if I go... Not quite.
    147:00
    Oh, a little bit of a rubber. It's going there. So I really want to, I want an extra ball, but I'll take, I'll take multipliers, I'll take multipliers, 3x on 70, 4x on 70, I think 70 is a matchup. 60 points per head. That's it. Yep. No.
    147:40
    We're going to go with five next in a second, I think. Okay, now I've got specials, but I have no idea. Okay, so I got an extra ball, right? Extra ball lit. Oh, it's lit. So I have to get it. Well, no, I've got to get it in the saucer. I'm trying to talk, I'm trying to play the game.
    148:03
    It's got 2.4 mil, I got to my 1 mil. And I've actually walked in that. Come on. Oh, you took when you should have flopped on that one.
    148:21
    You almost got 3 mil coming, I think. Nope, 2.8. I got some explaining to do. You got some catching up to do there, my friend.
    148:33
    I played last night and Dave blew up my heart with a ball trough. Nice there. Oh, that really sucks. Oh, I didn't get my... Oh, that's terrible. But, it's a four ball game. Good thing, George.
    148:59
    Everybody's like, well, why do you do that? Because I can't. All right. I can't do nothing. Playing better. I need to play better.
    149:13
    We need to get a multiple ball. You need to get a multiple ball. No, don't do that. Real nice save. Yeah, I think the tilt is a little generous on the chain.
    149:38
    Oh, man. Ew. That one had gone so bad. How's that? Ew. I got two back in the dead. I think I have some adjusting to do with fixing Eric Stone out here.
    149:57
    He would be walking across the floor. So you have that X lid up there. So if you get that last one, you're going to get an extra ball. You've got an extra ball already. So you don't want to complete that. I want the extra ball. I want that up there.
    150:14
    Fine, you already have an extra ball. Look at you. I don't want to lose, but I want to win. I don't have a game after I'm done.
    150:33
    Okay, he's trying to make a comeback, folks. 1.3 million, he's got an extra ball. And he just collected bonus 3x times 60, 70,000. So David's at 1.6. So you don't want to go past, so stop. So what do I don't want to go past? Well, so, do a little math. You're at 1.7 million. If you go past 2 million, you already have an extra ball lit. And you need that extra ball if you're going to try to catch one. Unless you think you can do it. What's next extra ball? 2 million? 2 million. On the score? Yeah. Yeah, it's not on the score. Oh, okay. That's the mystery. I don't have a card. I always put a mystery in it. Oh, okay. So I got 200 and... I'm telling you. I usually don't tell anybody.
    151:25
    Well, you've got a decision to make. You've got an extra ball, so it doesn't matter. I would continue to... I need to go. You need to find that. You can get the extra ball over there because you only have three lit. You don't have the extra ball lit there, so you can get the skate ball. And you get it lit. So you have multiple opportunities to get an extra ball after two million. But if I don't want to get it now, it'll go away. Correct. You're already going to miss that ball.
    151:55
    You're just about there. You have 210,000 bonus and you're at 7.5. You're just about there. You already got a chance to get it all.
    152:05
    I mean, if you bring it down, you probably do. So now you've already made the commitment. So now you have four X. Oh, so the targets up top gave you the extra multiple. Yes. Okay. Yes. I forgot about that.
    152:31
    Like I said, I don't play it very often. And I just keep hitting that target. Whoa. I think it's more of a safe shot. Oh, wow.
    152:42
    So it is getting to one thing on you. It is making me fall, and you do it. I have a record of all of that, so you've got to pass me and pass me by at least $70,000.
    153:01
    This is a long game. We're kind of like rappers here. Yeah, rappers. It's like a ramp game. Hey, we haven't done it before. I think it's good.
    153:13
    Oh, there we go. Multiply, you're already at 4X. It's got Fasten Point Spinnerlet. What else is this skateboarding? What's that? Yes, that's what skateboarding is going to get me. It's not going to be anything because we already have the select bonus. Okay. So you really, it's going to stay lit. All right. So you really want to. I get multipliers too, right? You need multipliers. Right, you need multipliers. Multipliers my way from below the block. I have bonus for the multi-block.
    153:58
    Oh, and out she goes. Uh-oh. I think George took that. 2-5 to 2-8. I had a good run. I just got a text from Irv showing me his games.
    154:16
    So here's his lineup. Oh, how do you say it? Farfalla? Farlapa? Yes, Farfalla? Yeah. I had that game. He's got that. I sold it really quick. Lost Cause? No. Z-Nine. Z-Nine, good one.
    154:32
    And Talladega Nights. That's what that is? Well, it's actually NASCAR when you put a Talladega Nights thing on there. He put the, you know, what's his name? Will Ferrell, Wonder Bread outfit. Gotcha. And here's his Twilight Zone. Okay, my last fall. So, Dave, you didn't do it. I didn't do it. Okay, well, let me see if I can. You did not do it. Let me see if I can do something here. And then we're going to end this. Unless you've got something to close the count with, this is going to be the last call, and it is. I'm done.
    155:05
    2.9 million. So, you're done. Hey, I matched. Yeah, I win. Match means win. So, yeah, his quiet zone has all black rubber on it. Shame, shame.
    155:18
    I don't like the black rubber. Get rid of that black rubber. But otherwise, I think he has LEDs in the game too, I can tell. It's LEDs in the play field.
    155:30
    Yeah. It's a nice copy. I'm going to see that game at some point in time in the not too distant future. Need some clear rubber on my puppy. Anything else to say before we close out?
    155:40
    It's a fun game, but again, I like it a little bit tougher, but hey. So there's only one game we haven't done in my game room. Supersonics. Right there. Yep. So, sometime in the future.
    155:56
    Alright. Be good. Till then, stay tuned. Same bat channel, same bat time.