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Episode 1117: "Kaneda's 4 Year 8-Month Return Policy"

Kaneda's Pinball Podcast (Patreon feed)·podcast_episode·23m 27s·analyzed·Jul 29, 2025
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TL;DR

Kaneda covers CPR/Pin Pilot drama, game shipping timelines, and licensing complexity in pinball.

Summary

Kaneda discusses a contentious 4+ year-old Pinside thread where user Pin Pilot complained about a defective CPR playfield purchased secondhand without inspection, only to be called out by the community for omitting key facts. The episode covers shipping updates for Predator and Merlin's Arcade, tariff impacts on Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, Jaws 50th anniversary topper speculation, and concerns about Harry Potter's complexity versus long-term appeal compared to games like Jaws.

Key Claims

  • Pin Pilot bought a secondhand CPR Adams Family playfield 4 years 8 months ago, didn't inspect it for years, then complained publicly about paint defects

    high confidence · Kaneda narrates the timeline and facts of the Pinside thread dispute

  • CPR revealed Pin Pilot knew the playfield was secondhand and knew there was a defect when he purchased it

    high confidence · Kaneda states CPR's response in the Pinside thread revealed this missing information

  • Alice's Adventures in Wonderland will face a 15% tariff, a 5% increase over normal rates

    high confidence · Kaneda cites tariff information on Dutch Pinball's game

  • Predator will be on the production line mid-August after Pinball Brothers invoiced customers

    high confidence · Kaneda reports Pinball Brothers' invoicing status

  • Merlin's Arcade will ship end of August

    high confidence · Kaneda cites Chris Turner's announcement

  • Stern made 300 Jaws 50th games by Wednesday of the production run, and will continue production through year-end

    medium confidence · Kaneda debunks Pinside rumors about 300-unit LE cap, references Gomez (likely Stern representative)

  • Jaws will have long-term appeal based on quality asset integration, similar to Godzilla

    medium confidence · Kaneda's opinion based on hobby observation, not confirmed fact

  • Harry Potter cramming 8 movies into one machine makes long-term appeal uncertain

    medium confidence · Kaneda's design philosophy critique of JJP's approach

Notable Quotes

  • “These are grown men that wear cargo shorts many of which have over 10 posts on a pinball website. These are men who stare at the computer screen all day long. They have nothing better to do than be on pin side every single day.”

    Kaneda@ 5:45 — Characterization of Pinside community culture and enforcement of accountability

  • “Shame on you, Pin Pilot. You got to go back into that thread and just let everybody know you're sorry. You're going to take your pinball and you're going to go home.”

    Kaneda@ 10:37 — Direct condemnation of Pin Pilot's refusal to apologize after being caught omitting facts

  • “It's not a deep game. It's a simple game, but it's a stunning game. And so that's why people bought it.”

    Kaneda@ 20:48 — Design philosophy assessment of Alice's Adventures in Wonderland

  • “That's the moment, right? It's like your wife. I feel like I've seen everything Brenda has to offer... And I'm so happy to report to each and every one of you, she's a keeper.”

    Kaneda@ 18:14 — Analogy for pinball's honeymoon period and keeper status after 6+ months

  • “Long lasting appeal starts about a year after the game came out. Because if you're still enjoying it after a year, you've gone past the honeymoon period.”

    Kaneda@ 17:46 — Industry standard for evaluating a pinball machine's longevity value

  • “I'm not gonna break my trust for five bucks I'm not gonna break my trust for a hundred dollars it's not worth it to me because I like going to bed at night with peace of mind”

    Kaneda@ 22:31 — Personal ethics statement about source confidentiality and refusing to leak unannounced games

  • “You're going to want to wait to see Star Wars. You're going to want to wait to see what the price increase is.”

Entities

KanedapersonPin PilotpersonCPRcompanyPinball BrotherscompanyChris TurnerpersonMerlin's ArcadegamePredatorgameAlice's Adventures in Wonderlandgame

Signals

  • ?

    product_concern: CPR playfield had paint pooling defect at bottom of artwork; dispute centered on secondhand sale and lack of pre-purchase inspection

    high · Kaneda narrates Pin Pilot's complaint about paint pooling and CPR's eventual response confirming Pin Pilot knew about defect

  • ?

    community_signal: Pinside community members tracked down missing information in Pin Pilot's complaint and held him accountable for omitting fact that playfield was secondhand with known defects

    high · Kaneda describes 14-page Pinside thread where 'cargo short wearing mob' fact-checked Pin Pilot's narrative

  • ?

    supply_chain_signal: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland facing 15% tariff from Netherlands, 5% increase over baseline; tariffs changing weekly affecting final pricing

    high · Kaneda: 'Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, beautiful game. We now know the tariffs are gonna be 15%. Not as bad as people thought. Still, it's a 5% increase'

  • ?

    product_launch: Predator on production line mid-August after Pinball Brothers began invoicing; Merlin's Arcade shipping end of August

    high · Kaneda: 'Pinball Brothers. They are now invoicing people for Predator, which means that the timeline is that Predator is going to be on the line mid-August' and 'Chris Turner, Merlin's Arcade on the line end of August'

  • $

    market_signal: Widespread industry price fatigue; consumer complaints about games costing $10k-$15k+ with poor casual appeal; Costco Star Wars priced at ~$5k appears overvalued to casual shoppers

    high · Kaneda: 'Are you all tired of it? Are you all fatigued by now of almost every single game that's good is now going to cost us over $10,000?' and commentary on Costco shoppers' reaction to $5k price tag

Topics

Community politics and accountability on PinsideprimaryCPR playfield quality and dispute resolutionprimaryGame shipping timelines and production updatesprimaryTariffs and pricing impacts on importsprimaryLimited edition and anniversary edition speculationsecondaryLicense complexity and design philosophy (Harry Potter vs Jaws)primaryLong-term appeal and keeper status evaluationsecondaryMarket fatigue and pricing concernssecondary

Sentiment

mixed(0.35)— Kaneda is critical of Pin Pilot's behavior and industry pricing trends, but enthusiastic about Jaws and Alice's Adventures' design quality. Tone is frustrated with market fatigue and community behavior, but optimistic about specific games' long-term potential.

Transcript

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0:00
You say the sun's gonna rise tomorrow, somewhere on the east side of sorrow. You better pack your bags, Wes, stick out your chest, and then hit the road. Sit up, sit up, sit up, sit up, sit up, sit up, sit up. Welcome everybody to Canadian's Pinball Podcast, the only pinball podcast that will not accept returns after four years, eight months. have you seen what might be the most entertaining pin side thread of all time and i've been on there
0:33
for about 12 to 13 years which is not a rich use of time but there is a thread that you have to go check out about a pin side user named pin pilot who tried to throw cpr play fields under the bus we're going to talk about it on this episode we're going to talk about predator pinball there's now a ship date for this game if you ordered it. We now know what the tariffs are coming from Netherlands if you want your Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. We also heard from Chris Turner.
1:04
He's come out of hiding to let people know when they can expect Merlin's Arcade to start shipping to people. There's a debate about Jaws 50th and might there be an accessory that will be unique to that game. There's some discussion around Harry Potter and JJP as there always is. And there is a spooky pinball, Evil Dead with butter cabinet with a dust cover for the low price of $16,500. Are you all tired of it? Are you all fatigued by now of almost every single
1:48
game that's good is now going to cost us over $10,000? Games that aren't even yet good, like Predator, $15,000 to your door? Games like Merlin's Arcade, close to $10,000 if you get everything included? What happened to pinball? You know, someone sent me a photo of that Stern pinball Costco edition of Star Wars. Have you seen it? Just looking down at it. If I was just

Kaneda@ 21:58 — Market signal that Star Wars is a major upcoming release affecting buyer decisions

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  • ?

    rumor_hype: Jaws 50th community speculation about exclusive topper celebrating 50th anniversary; Kaneda skeptical this will happen and calls it unprecedented for Stern

    medium · Kaneda: 'Jaws 50th owners are starting to speculate that they think there might be a special edition exclusive Jaws 50th topper' and 'We've never seen Stern do this. It would be unprecedented'

  • ?

    collector_signal: Pinside rumors claiming Jaws 50th limited to 300 units to create false exclusivity; Kaneda debunks myth using production numbers and comparisons to Batman SLE (80) and Elvira Sig (199)

    medium · Kaneda: 'There's some dude in Pinside who keeps trying to say that they're only making 300 Jaws 50th anniversary games. Just stop' and cites Gomez's confirmation of 300 by Wednesday of production

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Kaneda critiques Harry Potter's design choice to cram 8 films into single machine versus Jaws' single-film focus; proposes alternative models like Spooky's movie-selection approach or multi-game Star Wars series across Empire/Jedi/New Hope

    medium · Kaneda: 'Harry Potter has like eight different machines in one' and 'wouldn't Star Wars be amazing if there was a dedicated pin for A New Hope, a dedicated pin for Empire Strikes Back and a dedicated Return of the Jedi?'

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Industry standard for evaluating pinball longevity: games entering 'keeper' status after 6-12 months of play when honeymoon period ends and true value emerges

    medium · Kaneda: 'Long lasting appeal starts about a year after the game came out. Because if you're still enjoying it after a year, you've gone past the honeymoon period'

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Kaneda's sentiment toward Jaws 50th positive and growing; initially skeptical but increasingly impressed by red/white/blue aesthetic and quality asset integration

    medium · Kaneda: 'The more I see of Jaws 50th, the more I like it. It's just wearing me down' and 'I think Jaws is going to go down as one of the best sterns of all time'

  • ?

    industry_signal: Kaneda explicitly refuses to leak unannounced Steve Ritchie game despite Patreon subscriber pressure; cites personal ethics and source confidentiality as more valuable than revenue

    high · Kaneda: 'I gave my word to the people that told me and that's how I roll so I'm not gonna break my trust for five bucks... I like going to bed at night with peace of mind'

  • ?

    machine_intel: Unannounced pinball game in development; teased by Kaneda as not being 8-movie Harry Potter style, having 'speed', and not Ozzy Osbourne themed

    low · Kaneda end-of-episode tease: 'you're gonna want it and get excited and it's not gonna be eight movies. You're gonna have some speed, baby. And no, it's not Ozzy Osbourne'

    • 2:23
    a casual Costco shopper, I'm looking over there at iPhones and 77 inch TVs for like 1500 bucks. Honey, look at that a pinball machine. Oh yeah, look, it's next to arcade one ups. Oh yeah, let me see how much that thing is. It looks like it's about 1500 to 2000. Oh, it's $5,000. Does it look like a $5,000 item? And this is where we're at. I think everyone's just so damn price fatigued.
    2:55
    It's the summertime. You're spending money on other things. You're looking down at that LE and you're saying, man, that could have been another vacation with the kids, contemporary hotel, a week in Disney, a week we will remember for the rest of our lives, or another LE machine I barely play because it's got a dust cover on it. You know, I'm going to sell a machine with a dust cover glued to the glass. I don't ever want you to play the game.
    3:26
    Be a true collector. Let's seal that whole damn thing up so no dust can get into it. All right, so four years, eight months ago, So Pin Pilot bought a playfield from CPR in Adams Family Playfield. And he was going to put it in a new project of his. And he unboxed it. And he saw down by the bottom of the artwork, the paint was all pooled up. And it drove him crazy.
    3:57
    And so crazy, he had to go on pin side, which is always where you go, right? When you want to deal with human beings and grown adults, you don't just go right to CPR. You got to start a public thread bashing a company with your side of the story only. That is how grown adults in the internet era do it. We start a public thread because we want to get a public mob going and we want to be angry
    4:28
    and we want you to be angry with us and we think our collective anger will lead to a resolution. We don't handle it in private. We don't call up the company and we don't tell the full story. Now, I'm happy for threads like this because threads like this, I think remind everybody that Canada's not that bad. That sure, I've made some mistakes. Sure, I threw a drink once. Sure, I've rambled and ranted after losing a meaningless award and I've always always returned
    5:04
    with an apology or some sort of my behavior was inappropriate because every one of us is a little bit of a man child at times. We all are at different times. Now, some of us are worse than others. Some of us act more spoiled and entitled than others. But when you get caught making a mistake and you get caught in a flat out lie or you misheld information that was vital to the story and you get caught and no one's going to catch you better sometimes than a pin side sleuths.
    5:38
    You got to understand when you start a thread like this, who you're dealing with. These are grown men that wear cargo shorts many of which have over 10 posts on a pinball website These are men who stare at the computer screen all day long They have nothing better to do than be on pin side every single day. So if you come into their house and make a claim about one of their companies or
    6:12
    one of their products, you better be damn sure that you have all of the evidence and all of the facts lined up because that cargo short out of shape wearing mob will come after you immediately. They will find every single meme and gif that's been shared on the internet over the last 25 years and they will use it to make you feel ashamed of your candy butt for coming in there and trying
    6:42
    to flame a company without all the facts. So here's the story. This guy buys his playfield four years, eight months ago, opens it up. It has issues. He says that CPR is terrible. They're not honoring their products and he wants his money back. And he did not inspect the product four years, eight months ago when he bought it. So that was the first sort of debate. Should you open up a product and look at it within the return window? The answer is yes. But when that's all we
    7:15
    knew about the story, a lot of us had some empathy because who amongst us doesn't have a pinball part, a pinball playfield maybe, in a box that you've never opened up? I've got my replacement Guns and Monroe's gold playfield for the CE. I've got it in a box since I bought it from JJP. I did not open it. I did not inspect it. So I paid 500 bucks for it. And let's say three to four years from now, I go to replace my playfield with the new one and I open it up and there is a really bad paint
    7:51
    mistake. What would you do if you were in my shoes? Right? I would be a little bit pissed off. I'd be a little bit bummed out. But I bet if I went to JJP in an adult way, they would make it right. They would do something. I wouldn't go right to pin side to flame them. OK, so then this guy is like, you know, he's taking some arrows. People are debating whether or not he should have opened it up. But then everybody's waiting for the other side of the story.
    8:21
    What does CPR have to say about it? Because it really was a very bad painting mistake. It should have been caught, especially by CPR, whose reputation is all about quality playfields, the gold, the silver. You know, they sell all sorts of playfields. And so CPR finally chimes in with one of the biggest missing pieces of the story, that this gentleman bought this playfield knowing two things.
    8:51
    Knowing that it was a secondhand play field, that it wasn't brand new, put together by CPR, and knowing that there was a defect on the play field. He knew this when he bought it, and yet he left this information out. And it's such an entertaining 14 pages of this back and forth. You have to go check it out. It's just fun sometimes to see the cargo short wearing mob like get their way and take somebody
    9:26
    down. And this pin pilot guy, though, he's still logging on. I love that about Pinside. You can see the last time someone logged on and he's refusing to apologize for his mistake. Now, in the grand scheme of things, where someone just walked into a building yesterday, This is where my dad worked for 38 years, 345 Park Avenue. My dad worked there. I used to visit him in that building all the time.
    9:59
    He was on the 45th floor to see this guy walk into a building and just shoot people in Midtown Manhattan. My office is two blocks from there. Absolute insanity. I don't know what this world is becoming, but I'm very happy I'm out of the city. Talk about not a good day for the return to work thing that everyone's trying to get everybody to go back in. Go back in and watch these lunatics. Now, look, it can happen anywhere. But I just want to say in the grand scheme of things happening in the world, a defective pinball play field feels like the dumbest thing to even talk about.
    10:37
    But shame on you, Pin Pilot. it. You got to go back into that thread and just let everybody know you're sorry. You're going to take your pinball and you're going to go home. I don't think he'll ever recover. You know, only Canada has nine lives. They've come at me. They've come at me. Pinball manufacturers trying to get me fired. People got me kicked off of pin side. People went after my merchandise and got that shut down. I've got like maybe a couple lives left. I don't know. Look in life, if you make a
    11:08
    mistake and you get caught, just fess up, move on and ask for forgiveness. And in today's world, I'll tell you this, 95% of people will not forgive you. And those 95% of people are probably religious. And that's the irony in all of what happens in the modern world. All right, everybody, What else is going on in pinball? So I seeing that the Jaws 50th owners are starting to speculate that they think there might be a special edition exclusive Jaws 50th topper that going to somehow relate to the game they own
    11:52
    Will it celebrate the red, white, and blue more? What will be on it? Will it have some sparkle? All they really got to do is have Jaws 50th anniversary up there somewhere. It's not going to stop anybody else from buying it who has another edition of Jaws because every Jaws is celebrating its 50th anniversary this year. But we've never seen Stern do this. It would be unprecedented. We got to stop this rumor. There's some dude in Pinside who keeps trying to say that they're only making 300 Jaws 50th anniversary games. Just stop. Stop trying to
    12:28
    feel like you've got the most exclusive Elwynn of all time. Because if they only made 300 Jaws 50th, That would be the most exclusive Elwin ever. One of the most exclusive Elwes ever. I think it would be the third most exclusive Stern of all time. Because what was it? Batman, SLE had 80. ElviraSig had 199. And then this. Come on, man. They made 300 Jaws by Wednesday. When they started making this game.
    12:58
    There's no way they're only making 300. Now, they're also going to make them to the end of the year. So Gomez said that. So maybe the first batch was 300. They're going to see how they're going to sell, but it's not limited to just that. And do you really think that Stern's not going to run another like couple hundred and just keep them in storage? And then a few years from now, you can just keep selling them because you made them in the year that you said you were going to make them. Now, I don't think Stern's going to make an exclusive topper here. I just think this is not a good move.
    13:29
    I think they need to sort of stop trying to burn the LE owners. I feel like they've done a better job at that. They've never re-released an LE again or made a new LE again since they said they would not. They've made these anniversary additions. They're not as nice as the LEs, but they're doing certain things. Now, look, the devil's advocate in me is like, Kaneda, what are you talking about? They just made an exclusive playfield for the 50th anniversary game. That's nicer than the playfield in the LE.
    14:00
    So what would stop them from making an exclusive topper? We shall see. I do know this. The more I see of Jaws 50th, the more I like it. It's just wearing me down. It's just got that red, white, and blue. I don't know. Maybe it's everything with Hulkamania going through my blood. Maybe it's the fact that it's summertime. Maybe I'm always seeing people have those popsicles with the red, white, and blue. It kind of goes together. I need to see one in person. but if I were getting a Jaws right now,
    14:30
    100%, I'm getting a Jaws 50th and I'm keeping the armor red and I think it actually will look really good. I should have a Jaws. I just spoke to a guy. He has a really beautiful house in Westport, Connecticut and he's got a Jaws premium. And he's like, look, we live in a town where it's Jaws appropriate. And he's right, we're on the water. And shouldn't I have a Jaws pinball machine? Shouldn't I get one if I make a video for a certain, I'm just joking, I'm just joking. I actually think Jaws is going to go down as one of the best sterns of all time.
    15:03
    I've just, look, I've covered this hobby long enough to tell when a game has like long-term love. And Jaws has a lot of long-term love. And it's simply because they did the assets right. And that's my big worry about Harry Potter. Because Harry Potter to me is the opposite. Now look, it's apples to oranges. Jaws was like one movie. one iconic movie with some elements from the other movies peppered in harry potter like eight movies they had to work with eight how do you properly serve up eight films versus one it's
    15:39
    almost impossible that's why people are like well they have to stack everything they have to do it that way because there'd be no way to serve up the movies if you played through it more linear and had more moments of pause with each movie. Now, look, I disagree. What I think JJP should have done is kind of like what Spooky did. Can you imagine this? Like Harry Potter has like eight different machines in one. And I don't mean the shots are different, but when you start a game,
    16:10
    you just pick which movie you wanna play through and then you can have like a half hour game in that movie. I know that's a lot more work, a lot more coding, but this is a once-in-a-lifetime game, a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to get this many assets from these many iconic films. The other thing I think they possibly could have considered was why not make three pinball machines?
    16:41
    Make the first three movies, the second three movies, and the final two over the next three to four years. I think people would have bought them. I don't know. Like no one's ever taken that risk. You take these iconic movies and you split them up. Star Wars, right? We've been talking about that. Like wouldn't Star Wars be amazing if there was a dedicated pin for A New Hope, a dedicated pin for Empire Strikes Back and a dedicated Return of the Jedi?
    17:12
    Think about it. The movies came out years apart. We would accept the games coming out years apart, but no one's done it. It might be a licensor thing. They might not want to do it that way, so I don know all the details but I do know cramming eight movies into Potter really difficult Will Harry Potter have the long lasting appeal of games like Jaws of games like Godzilla And in this hobby you know us people
    17:46
    long lasting appeal starts about a year after the game came out. Because if you're still enjoying it after a year, you've gone past the honeymoon period. And I think you're in that period where it's starting to feel like a keeper. And I think that's what I love about pinball is we all get into the honeymoon phase and it's like in that six months, right? After you've logged about 800 games, after you've seen maybe everything the game has to offer, then's the moment. That is the moment, right? It's like your wife.
    18:16
    I feel like I've seen everything Brenda has to offer. Everything. I know how she cooks. I know how she sings. I know how she works. I know how she mothers. I know how she drives. I know how she dresses. I know how she does something else that's inappropriate to tell all of you. I know everything there is to know about Brenda right now. And I'm so happy to report to each and every one of you, she's a keeper. She's not bolted to the floor because that sounds inhumane. But you know what I mean?
    18:47
    That's like a pinball machine. We all go through that period. Go to a show. It's like having a few dates with the game. I always love it when people play a game once and then run to pin side and say it's the best game ever. Like, what are you talking about? I mean, that's just kind of like looking at a beautiful woman from across the street and saying you could spend the rest of your life with her. Now, again, speaking from experience, I know what it's like to fall quickly and then realize, oh, none of our values line up. Nothing what I'm really looking for is there.
    19:18
    It's all surface level. And a lot of pinball is that. It can be very surface level. This hobby realized many years ago, if you just make a game beautiful, you're gonna get some sales. So speaking about game shipping, we've got Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, beautiful game. We now know the tariffs are gonna be 15%. Not as bad as people thought. Still, it's a 5% increase over what it usually was. Now, who's gonna eat that cost?
    19:50
    It's gonna have to be you, the buyer. It's just the way the world is. The distro's not gonna eat that cost. Dutch Pinball should not eat that cost. This is it. You wanna buy a product from overseas now, this is what it costs. Now, it opens up an interesting debate. Because of that, and that was not the price that you agreed to when you gave your deposit, should you be allowed to get a refund now, before the end of the year, if you don't want to spend that much?
    20:23
    I think the answer is yes. Because here's what I think will happen. There's not many of these games being made. I think everybody who bought one has another 500 bucks. I know it's not great, but it's not that much. It's not that bad. I also think the early reviews on this game, I'm just going off of what people are saying. People, I'm not showing it. People are loving it. It's different. It's beautiful. It's different. You know how I feel. It's not a deep game. It's a simple game, but it's a stunning game.
    20:54
    And so that's why people bought it. Right. Nobody bought this game thinking it was going to be like super deep and was going to have like all this complexities. And everybody saw it. Everybody got to see this game when they ordered it. OK, so I just think you're going to have to pay a little bit more. And also, it's still going to take a while. The way Trump is going with these tariffs every other week, they change. So who knows, by the time your game is ready, I think you're probably crossing your fingers. It's just going to be 15%.
    21:24
    We heard from Pinball Brothers. They are now invoicing people for Predator, which means that the timeline is that Predator is going to be on the line mid-August. All right, everyone's got to get out before Star Wars. We also heard from Chris Turner, Merlin's Arcade on the line end of August. Now, these are two companies that go at different paces. I am curious how many Merlin's Arcades sold. I don't think many Predators sold.
    21:55
    I think everyone's in a real wait and see period. You're going to want to wait to see Star Wars. You're going to want to wait to see what the price increase is. Lots of speculation about what Steve Ritchie's next game is. Gang, it's so far away. It's not even worth it. All right. A lot's going to happen over the next six weeks. let's stay in the here and the now for a little bit I know what it is I can't tell you people are like I'm a patreon subscriber and he's telling me what it not is well the reason I can't tell you is I gave my word to the people that told me and that's how I roll so I'm not gonna break my trust
    22:31
    for five bucks I'm not gonna break my trust for a hundred dollars it's not worth it to me because like I said I like going to bed at night with peace of mind and I don't wake up in a good mood if I burn someone and I lied to somebody about my word. All right, just trust me, you're gonna want it and get excited and it's not gonna be eight movies. You're gonna have some speed, baby. And no, it's not Ozzy Osbourne. Canada out. The sun's gonna rise tomorrow
    23:02
    Somewhere on the east side of sorrow Don't give it a reason to follow Let it be, then let it go