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Day 4 of IRON MAN Battle Week! - 1 / 2

Dead Flip·video·2h 0m·analyzed·Nov 17, 2014
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TL;DR

DeadFlip Iron Man Battle Week Day 4 with gameplay, drinking rules, and community engagement.

Summary

DeadFlip streams Day 4 of Iron Man Battle Week with Jack Danger and guest Ben V-Gent, playing a series of matches on Iron Man pinball while discussing gameplay strategy, rule nuances, and drinking game rules. Technical difficulties with streaming setup are addressed early. The hosts play practice games and competitive matches, establishing drinking game rules based on specific Iron Man shots (War Machine, Lazarus, Jericho, Do or Die). Community engagement includes chat interaction, tournament announcements for Chicago venues, and discussion of Iron Man's difficulty and design philosophy.

Key Claims

  • Iron Man does not have an alternative skill shot like a super skill shot

    high confidence · Jack Danger discussing Iron Man rule mechanics with Ben V-Gent during gameplay

  • Ball save was increased from zero to approximately four seconds in Iron Man code update

    high confidence · Jack Danger explaining recent rule changes to Iron Man during practice game

  • Soft plunging Iron Man prevents War Machine target from raising, allowing better control

    high confidence · Jack Danger and Ben V-Gent discussing plunging strategy during gameplay

  • Jack Danger met Crystal Gemnich in 2007 at a birthday party in Chicago

    high confidence · Jack Danger responding to Crystal watching stream from her house

  • DeadFlip tournament was moved to a different date/time but exact details not specified

    medium confidence · Jack Danger mentions 'Oh, I think we moved our DeadFlip tournament. Oh, you did? Yeah. I double-checked that.'

  • Two upcoming Chicago pinball tournaments: one single at North Town Cafe on Monday of Thanksgiving week, another December 11th at Bottom Lounge

    high confidence · Jack Danger providing tournament schedule to community member Crystal

  • Jack Danger co-hosts a Star Trek podcast called 'Space Lincoln' that featured Star Trek pinball content from Logan Arcade

    high confidence · Jack Danger discussing podcast recording session at Logan Arcade where he played Star Trek pinball

  • Do or Die multiball on Iron Man requires completing every shot with Jericho and super jackpots with all bosses

    medium confidence · Ben V-Gent explaining Do or Die multiball requirements during gameplay discussion

Notable Quotes

  • “I love this game. You love Iron Man? I do. I do. It's really obnoxious and I appreciate that in a pinball game.”

    Ben V-Gent@ 11:14 — Articulates appreciation for Iron Man's difficulty and obnoxious game design as a feature, not a bug

  • “I like The Games that are deeply unfair. Yeah, deeply unfair, super complicated.”

    Jack Danger@ 36:17 — Expresses philosophy about pinball game design preference for challenging, physically demanding machines

  • “Modes like that are absurd, where you have to play for like 45 minutes just to find out that you screwed up.”

    Ben V-Gent@ 32:10 — Critiques excessively long modes (referencing Lord of the Rings pinball) that punish mistakes after extended play

  • “Three beers perfect pinball that's my best pinball let's get that on video so then when I fuck it all up tonight because it's number three proof you'll have proof”

    Ben V-Gent@ 33:32 — Self-aware commentary on optimal performance state with alcohol consumption during pinball play

  • “Well, the kids love it. Yeah, we... I gave you a stick. You can hit people with it.”

    Jack Danger / moderator exchange@ 26:32 — Joking about stream moderation and community engagement, shows relaxed stream culture

Entities

Jack DangerpersonBen V-GentpersonCrystal GemnichpersonBrad StarkpersonDeadFliporganizationIron MangameNorth Town CafeorganizationBottom LoungeorganizationLogan Arcadeorganization

Signals

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    community_signal: DeadFlip hosting multi-day Iron Man Battle Week tournament streaming with guest players, building community around specific machine

    high · Entire stream is Day 4 of organized Iron Man Battle Week tournament series with scheduled matches

  • ?

    event_signal: Chicago pinball tournament infrastructure active with multiple IFPA-sanctioned events scheduled at established venues

    high · Two upcoming tournaments announced: North Town Cafe (Thanksgiving Monday) and Bottom Lounge (December 11th), both with IFPA points

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Strategy discussion of soft plunging, ball save mechanics, and mode sequence optimization on Iron Man

    high · Jack and Ben discuss War Machine shot difficulty, Monger target positioning, soft plunge strategy, and optimal ball control techniques

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Iron Man positioned as premium difficult machine for competitive/enthusiast players rather than casual location play

    medium · Extended discussion of precise mechanical execution, mode completion difficulty, and overall 'cruel' game design philosophy

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Host appreciation for obnoxious, difficult, unfair pinball game design as core value proposition

    high · Ben V-Gent: 'It's really obnoxious and I appreciate that in a pinball game.' Jack Danger: 'I like The Games that are deeply unfair.'

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Transcript

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0:00
We're playing League of Legends. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know that Brad Stark does League of Legends. Yep, League of Legends.
0:09
Technical issues. I'm not a freaking tech guy. I'm surprised I even got this stuff going. But, yeah, I usually, I'll play like a strategy game or something. Right on. I usually will more slow-paced because I'm lame. No, it's not lame. I mean, I do like the slower pace of Civ compared to StarCraft. Yeah. Because you get to sort of take your time, whereas in StarCraft, if you aren't pushing buttons... You have to have your build order ready. Yeah, if you're not pushing buttons, you lost already. I repurchased on Steam. They had, like, the remastered version of Age of Empires II. Oh, nice. And so I bought that.
1:06
And, like, as a kid, I always played it on, like, easiest and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. But then once... Kolchak, thanks for coming, buddy. Sorry about the technical crap. We're trying to get this all figured out, but I think we're good.
1:25
We were accidentally streaming over the Wi-Fi instead of hardwired, so we should be good. So we're going to try the chat over here. What I've been doing is turning that off and using this. Okay. So that takes strain off of the fucking processor, if that makes any sense. Sure. Like, the fewer things that are open, the better it's going to be.
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product_strategy: Iron Man code update increasing ball save from zero to four seconds, indicating post-release refinement

high · Jack Danger: 'We did add a second or two to the ball save because our ball save before was zero. And now I think it's four.'

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    technology_signal: Streaming infrastructure challenges: WiFi vs hardwired connection, processor load optimization, 30-second Twitch platform delay

    high · Opening segments discuss technical troubleshooting, chat/overlay lag, streaming optimization to reduce processor strain

    • 1:57
    But, come on, dude, what's going on? Does this have anything funny to say about the troopers? No. No, nothing funny? Doesn't have any comedy. What's the point? Where's the comedy? I need to laugh when I'm playing.
    2:16
    What the hell is going on? It's on the speed test here. I'm concerned. Looks like it's loading pretty quick.
    2:28
    You should get 50. Go fast. Hell yeah. Who is the app? Who's the app? Is that Nick? That's all of us, but we're not even sure who did that. That's obviously kids. Because of that, we've decided not to put DF on our own machines. Right. We will put our own initials. Sure. But we're all on there. Actually, I don't think Nick is on there, unless he's... Yeah.
    2:57
    Yeah. All right. Well, I think we should be good. So much really thingy Star Spangled Banner before you start. That's a great idea. And as, like, a patriot, I would agree with you, Cookie Monster.
    3:11
    Cold November Drain. God, he couldn't be more correct. I read Cookie Monster from this distance. Better than 2020 Vision. Did you know that?
    3:23
    Cookie Monster? I saw a C and an O, and then I just took a leap of faith. Cold, or whoever's watching, is the video looking okay? Is everything looking good? Because I think we're rock solid. But I just want to make sure you guys can hear us okay and that everything's going all right. Someday we'll have this down to a science where we don't have to ask that crap anymore. What's the delay usually? Because I've noticed things like we'll say something and then it's like 30 seconds. It jumps. Well, it's supposed to be 30 seconds. It's supposed to be 30 seconds. It's like Twitch put lag into their system to control what's going on. when sometimes it gets real shitty. Yesterday we were playing, and the light got so bad because of Twitch that it looked like a 10-minute delay. Oops. Someone would ask a question, I'd be like, Sandwiches, cold check, my man. All right, well, you know what we're going to do is go. Good evening, pinheads, and welcome back to Dead Flip Pinball. Tonight, continuing on Iron Man, day four, we have Ben V with us. Hello. V-Gent. Yeah. Yeah, got it. Got it. First try. Yep, V-Gent. I get Crystal's last name wrong constantly. Gemnich. Oh. No, it's Gemnich. Yeah, I was going to say, I've known her for like five, six years now. Oh, say can you see? Yeah, that's trouble. All right, well, so yeah, we're going to battle. It's going to be a quiet one today because it's just us. I'm Jack Danger. And that's Ben again. So, let's get a practice game in and then we'll try to work out the old best two out of threes or best three out of frickin' who cares. Yeah, whatever. Drink some beer, folks.
    5:17
    Hello, hello, hello. I'll start. I'll just go for it. You're just going to go right in. Yeah. I'm always disappointed that this game doesn't have an alternative.
    5:33
    The internet says hello, Ben. Hello. Goodbye. Oh, well. Who's Kolchak? To be honest, we don't personally know most of those people. Oh, cool. But you guys are friends to me, right?
    5:50
    I love that. Just like pop it. It's real. There's my name. Baby. All right. I was going to say pop it about this, but all right. You know what? Don't sweat it. That's why we do a practice game to shake off the cobwebs, because this game is a group. Like, I'm already playing like crap. Here we go.
    6:11
    All right. Let's try some, well, I already stopped talking because it didn't go my way. We're going to go bogeys here.
    6:22
    Are you? I'm so pissed. There we go. Make sure you get your shields. So pissed. Oh, my God. What is going on? Ah!
    6:43
    My life. All right. You got a beer, yeah? Yeah. All right. Folks, we are drinking Spears Fuckers Summer Pills by Abita.
    6:54
    Ooh, that beer. to initiate pro games. What is your ranking these days? I can't even read that. What? Oh, you are 1,784th in the world.
    7:15
    There will be more than one. Oh, two. Oh, literally. All the screen. It's a frustrating game. That is for sure.
    7:28
    Skill shot. But, yeah, you had said it's not an alternative to, like, skill shot. Yes, there's not, like, a super skill shot.
    7:39
    We did add a second or two to the ball save because our ball save before was zero. And now I think it's four.
    7:49
    This is not going to be a great night. Folks, you're going to hear a lot of yelling. This has been a great night for pinball. You know, when you see Chris Grace, that's great.
    8:03
    Now, for some reason, I always go for War Machine right at the top. Oh! I could have saved it. Yep, the Lazarus will happen. I gave up. Let's see here. I wonder if we should do a rule set to show people what's going on, or not even worry about that, because I don't want to keep leaning over. We'll just remember who won how many things. Yeah. Okay.
    8:34
    Typically when I play, and I haven't done it here, but I go right for raising up Monger. Beat the crap out of him to get him out of the way, so that when you do bogeys, if you shoot your loops, he doesn't come up all of a sudden, because the loops are what raise him regardless. Okay.
    9:07
    Oh, boy, oh, boy. Well, we will... Oh, your name popped up somehow. We will go in this order. I'll go first. All right. Fair enough. Hey. Good luck to you, buddy. Good luck. Also, Ben was kind enough to drop off a very beautiful bottle of bourbon whiskey. What is this, Rocktown? Yeah.
    9:31
    Where's this from? Arkansas. Yeah, Arkansas. That's awesome. It is distilled at the very same, like, I think they grow the corn at the same town. That's awesome. It's all, like, local. Local. It's very, very good. Hell yeah.
    9:45
    I'm going to drink all sorts of that. Just a guy from Pennsylvania. There we go. See? Two of my siblings live in Pennsylvania. Really? Yeah. One in Harrisburg, and the other one in Lewisburg. All the Bergs. Yeah, double Bergs. Lewisburg. Okay, so folks, I'm going to go right for Monger. Right the frick away. Just to get him out of my hair so I can focus on my bogeys.
    10:17
    And I already screwed up. Okay. There we go. Spectre 16. Okay. We need two more Maga Shots. There's one.
    10:38
    You stoned. Do you have a set? Remember, this isn't for children. Donate to kids. Yeah. Does this set, does the factory set have more Monger letters at the top? What we do is we put it on easy for Monger to come up because that is theoretically harder to deal with. Because he gets in the way more. Yeah, and he's got the magnet right there.
    11:07
    I'm going to go against the grain here. And I love this game. You love Iron Man? I do. It's really obnoxious and I appreciate that in a pinball game. Okay.
    11:25
    In a pinball game. Yeah, one. Oh! Power out. Counting my tickets. Before they were hatched. Yeah. That's exactly what just happened. All right, so I need one more shot at the monger. There's a way to cheat it by soft plunging. that target, but I'm not going to do that.
    11:52
    Yeah, look at all these slingshot points I got. Oh, wait. There we go. So now that he's up, let's just clip him. Don't hit him dead on. Clip him.
    12:06
    Oh, my God, I screwed up. Clip him. Oh, that was the ultimate clip. I am furious. Yeah, I would be. We got the sarsaparilla. What are the rules? Yeah, you know what? Let's make a drinking game out of this. That sounds fun.
    12:34
    How would we do that? This game's so fast that it'd be hard to even keep track. How about every time you hit that War Machine shot that just kicked back, take a drink? That sounds mighty fine to me. It's a hard-to-hit shot, and it's really easy to know when you hit it. Yeah. Can I have another Evita, then? Yes, you have another Evita. Also, we may actually have to switch to whiskey, but not that. We'll get some shittier stuff. Actually, grab the, uh, grab, nothing, don't grab anything if I just do that.
    13:12
    Clip his knees off! Brad, thanks for coming, buddy. Let's see, if Iron Man had to be a drinking game, I'd say first and foremost, hitting War Machine, that should be a drink. completing getting a do or die sounds like a drinking maneuver maybe not completing it even if you light everyone and you hit the first do or die shot but you don't hit the second one I'd say drink Jericho drink defeat the ironmonger by getting him down and getting his super jackpot that's drink anything involving that center target back there for major money shops and the war machine here. I'd say call it at that, because if we do anything else, we're just going to be blasted out of our minds. Yeah. That's fair. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Is this me? Yes, you went first. I did go first. Why did I go first? Yes, that is one. I'm a giant head. Okay, don't screw me please. Alright, two more shots to Monger. Oh, that was my fault. Trying to do it on the slide. Alright, so let's put the monger down. We have to make one more shot to a spinner to get him back up. And I'm not doing that. There he is. And beat him up. Should have held that ball. Beautiful. and clip his knees off.
    15:03
    That was a mistake. This is all a mistake. Always hold at least one. Alright. Get them beers ready, folks.
    15:21
    If I can make this shot. I need this on. Yeah, there we go. Drink it up, folks. That was a monger kill. Let's try that again.
    15:39
    Oh, yeah. Alright, let's try that again. You freaking ding dong. Well, that's over. Get a few hits in once.
    15:55
    Oh, please. I fumbled that. Eight million, nine million deficit. Nine million deficit. Don't worry, friends.
    16:06
    The deficit. I am a professor. So, there we go. There's the monger. Number one. Number one, raise the monger. Yeah, yeah. Number two, take his knees out.
    16:21
    I'm just going to scream it. Take his knees out. There we go. This is, there. Don't worry. I have the trick. Hold up, smash in the glass. Yeah, it's when you lose, you smash in the glass. That's high-level play. You know what? I am going to put the rules up here, because I don't want to have to freaking remember this.
    16:44
    Two out of three. No, we'll do three out of five. Three out of five? How's that sound? All right, three out of five. Let's do it. All right. Let's see. What are the games that are left?
    17:03
    Getaway. Oh, that's a good one, too. And Twilight Zone. Oh, okay. And... Is this the thing again? Oh. I like Twilight Zone, but I don't like your Twilight Zone. Oh, come on. It's treated me very poorly. It treats everyone poorly. And, I don't know. There's a ghost in it, and it's very rude. There's just a rude Twilight Zone ghost. He is haunted, though. Yes. Let me just nudge this over real quick, folks.
    17:35
    You get to watch it animate in real time. You're learning about film production by watching this, too. That's the exciting part. Yeah, you get to see me set this crap up live. Yeah, you get a real... At the end of... Once you watch all of these, you'll get a certificate. Yeah. you get your official broadcasting certificate for Twitch exclusively Twitch alright so that's one brother good luck you got this same approach folks right from under Brad Smith yesterday was talking about not getting the skill shot because you get control of the ball faster if you short plunge and just get it on your flipper because if it's up there unlike some of the newer sterns Like, if you play ACDC and the ball lives in the pops after you plunge forever, the ball stays.
    18:32
    Yeah, but this is not the case. So by keeping it up there, if it lives up there too long and then just drains right down, your ball's done. That's it. It's over.
    18:43
    Kaput. But I like to live on the wild side, you know. I'm going to ignore that. I'm going to fight. No big deal.
    18:55
    I'm jacking. Wow. I wonder if the Vault version has that. The Vault version has, they added a status thing so you can see where you're at in the game. Because that doesn't exist in here. Oh, that's true. Look at this. I was wondering about that. How many more shots do you get with like... Yeah, but all you can look at is, you know, other people's really awesome scores. And, you know, it's very sensitive for angels. But you know what? I can't do that. There you go.
    19:35
    Gives you something to shoot for, literally. And then remember, throw a move, smash the glass. Smash the glass. That's the very end. If all else fails, smash the glass.
    19:52
    There's mark one. Now you don't hold on to it, Mark. Like all this stuff wipes off except for monger letters, right? And like progress, war machine, monger, and whiplash, those carry both of all. But this clears and marks clears. Is that correct? Yeah. Let's try the soft launch here.
    20:18
    Brad says it's primarily like if you're constantly getting house balls. to use the soft plunge. But I think we have enough ball... Bam! Oh, damn, dude. You've taken it home.
    20:31
    I think we have enough ball safe to risk the skill shot. Oh! Right on the top. Oh. There we go. Everything's coming up middle house.
    20:47
    Oh, man. He's all set up. Oh! Well. Oh, boo! All it takes is one veg cup. Yeah, yeah. You know, it's a sad game. Truly. Marks do not clear the draft. Really? Oh, yeah, there it is. I have my marks. Hi, Crystal. Crystal's watching. Folks, that was two shots to War Machine. I believe that would be two drinky-drank.
    21:15
    Oh, Crystal Gemnick? Yep. Crystal is watching from home, as I assume everyone is. Gemnick? But not from her home. Everyone's watching from Crystal's house. Yeah, yeah. Are you having a human part of Crystal?
    21:29
    Crystal, get me. How long have you known Crystal? She's actually, I met her the first year I came to Chicago, so 2007. Holy crap. So, I met her at her birthday. No good. Birthdays are no good. Yeah. I've got to get, I've got to get time to meet someone.
    21:53
    You know. I'm surprised as much as she is. I wish the war machine shot was a little more dangerous. Payment plan. You know what? There's someone after my own heart. He likes the danger of Iron Man. He likes that it's cruel. He likes that I tried to... I truly hope you're being prestigious.
    22:12
    See, look, I lost that at the ball cave. I almost backhanded that, but I didn't. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Oh, that's so... I'll take your advice. I like it. Shoot on in, then.
    22:29
    There you go. Nice little ramp there. Oh, I think we moved our dead flip tournament. Oh, you did? Yeah. I double-checked that.
    22:46
    That's also why it was easier. Yeah. Ours was easier to move than yours. Yeah, it would have been. All right. Now, let's see. We'll give me any of those balls back. Yeah. We'll give me number two. No.
    23:02
    Well, that's okay. One. Ah! Why am I doing this? Thanks for coming, buddy. All right. It's been a while since I've seen you in the chat.
    23:15
    Oh, there we go. Nothing. Oh! I thought it was the safe bounce. I thought I had to take down Slayer. Well, you have two marks.
    23:27
    I have the one. Oh, I have one shot to monitor to start my multiple. Bummer. Bummer, bro. Because I'll probably not hit it and drain right away, right? Is that what you're saying? War machines, let's do it. If I can light war machine first.
    23:41
    Oh, why did I fucking do that? I say what I want, and I do the opposite. Honestly, I'm surprised if I'm able to stack anything in this game on purpose.
    24:08
    That's a War Machine shot. That's another one, folks. I hope you're getting drunk. That might have been a mistake making that a drink shot. Oh, of course, now that I need it.
    24:20
    On purpose, here we go. Nice, nice. My man. All right, let's work on... Hi, Crystal. In all honesty, Crystal's asking, when am I having another tournament? There are two coming up.
    24:41
    Two Pinball Chicago tournaments? Involve Chicago with IPA points. One is a single at North Town. Oh, it's for singles only? Yeah. The single night meet the love of your life.
    24:59
    On a Dracula. Yeah. Or whatever they have. It's a couple of points with Dracula. No, it is at North Town Cafe the Monday of Thanksgiving week. The Monday of Thanksgiving week. That's correct. And then the next one is, what, December 11th? Yes. It's here on the desk. And then that Bottom Lounge, which is really exciting. Oh, Bottom Lounge is an awesome venue. We streamed from there last week. Yes.
    25:28
    Those games need a little TLC at the old spot. Yeah, I'll send it in e-mail. You, one shot. That's all I wanted. All right, all right. A five mil deficit, but don't worry, friends, I have something in hand. I'm watching from a big-ass green in a bar.
    25:55
    Told you. Way to tug my heartstrings. I'm trying to get some of the bars around here that have pins to, like, put it through their airplay.
    26:09
    I'm going to have, like, two in for you. Drinking for you some Ball Saver? No, not for Ball Savers, but we are drinking with the Lazarus as well, because this game will give them up.
    26:25
    Yancy. Also, Yancy, you are a moderator, so if you want to just push people around, feel free to do that. Yeah, we... I gave you a stick. You can hit people with it. Ah!
    26:38
    Oh, I was doing a little okay. Oh, man, you were coming back with those bogeys. Yeah, I was. I was recovering. Oh, well. All right, that's another. Well, friends, don't worry, because I have the secret plan. Hey! And it was to let Jack get the match.
    26:55
    But don't worry. I've got one. I've got a plan. Oh, by the way, there is no more. You know how you, like, spoke to the game for a while, and no one could hear you sort of thing that happened a while back when, was it Dark Knight? Not Dark Knight.
    27:14
    I remember there was an instance where you were here talking. Yeah. Oh, and what, I was alone? Yeah. I was talking to myself? And they're just, the mics weren't on. I can go to the bathroom now, and you can still talk to the internet. Good. And people will appreciate, because I've got a lot of interesting things to say, especially when danger is not in the room. See what stupid is? half an hour after the stream goes live, that's when the emails go up. And that's when you watch the viewership go up. It's freaking ridiculous. You're a true pinball junkie if you watch the stream while playing pinball. Technically, we're playing, streaming, and watching the stream. Beat that. What they should do is take out a translate, put it in like a Wizard of Oz so that you're watching someone play pinball while you're playing pinball. Yeah, we need like a monitor right here so we can sort of watch. Yeah, that's the extra bell and whistle that the Big Lebowski does not have.
    28:11
    Damn. Yeah, someone tell them. Go live 30 minutes early. Did you re-explain the drinking game rules? Oh, no, here, let me go over the rules real quick on the drinking game, since I guess we'll just start making this a thing.
    28:28
    Anytime we hit the war machine, because that's such a tight shot, drink. If you get a Lazarus, much like any game, if you get a Lazarus, that's a drink. Then the rest of the drinks come from Jericho. If you achieve Jericho by shooting the metal spinner back there, if you achieve killing the monger and collecting a super jackpot by that spinner in the middle there, or if you achieve do or die by hitting the spinner in the middle there. And you only have to hit it once. You don't have to do both shots for do or die. One shot will do for one shot. The NCA Greece and Vane Twitch stream in a Wizard Boss back box would be an improvement. That'd be pretty awesome looking.
    29:08
    Keith Johnson, if you're watching. If you're listening, please. Or if you're listening to the radio version. Yeah. But there's nothing more exciting than listening to a pinball play-by-play, but not watching it. Tune into Deadflip at 93.9 AM radio. On my podcast, I have a Star Trek podcast because, as you know, I'm a pinball livestream, so I'm a pretty cool guy. You have a Star Trek? Yeah, I've got a Star Trek podcast, and we did something on the Star Trek pinball machines. So we went to Logan Arcade, which is two of them, and they recorded me while I was playing it, and I said to the guy who was doing the podcast, there's nothing more boring than listening to someone play the pinball with you too This is the most boring way to experience pinball No no I going to It like listening to like a darts competition on the radio It's like, what? This is doing nothing for... He hit the seven. Who fucking cares?
    30:14
    Oh, man, it's a special podcast. My man. This starts 5 p.m., but people wait for the e-mail before tuning in, apparently.
    30:22
    First world problems. All right. David Twain, Space Lincoln, look it up on the Internet. That's the name of the podcast. Crystal, listen to it. Finish Jericho, dive alcohol poisoning. Yes, because it's not possible.
    30:37
    That's completing every shot on the board with one ball, no ball save. Now, we're at a match point, aren't we? This would be a three. Oh. Yeah, we're at match point. How about this? We, obviously, it's only 530. Yeah. We'll keep playing until things get tight. All right. I got a secret plan. What are you going to? Yeah. I'm going to move the camera to get away.
    31:10
    Shoot. Get away, get away. All the pop. Bubbers. I missed this time. Yes, me too. We got to talk to Stark about that. Stark's also trying to sell his, well, never mind.
    31:29
    I love this. Hey, so do I. And you love Stark, right? Your favorite plan. Look at that. Yeah. Oh, man, Yancy, that sucks. Two shots away from finishing Jericho. Have you ever, how many of you have always done this to Jack as well? Do you want me to tell a little bit about your plan? No, you talk, man. Yeah. Have any of you watched the popular video of the person playing Lord of the Rings trying to get to Balinor? The final, the person playing it, and it's like a 90-minute video, and they just about get there.
    32:08
    That's frustrating, man. Modes like that are absurd, where you have to play for like 45 minutes just to find out that you screwed up. And, well, I'm like, what are the ratings? If you pick up one of the movie pieces in one of the books, like one of those multiple, you have to go again. Oh, God. Like, you have to finish all three of them, do there and back again, and then do fellowship again and complete it. There and back again. Yeah, exactly. Very apropos. You know what? I think that was a good one. I'm going to give it up. I'm here to appreciate the... Don't worry, folks. I also have a secret weapon. Yeah.
    32:58
    I plan to shoot really drunk. Yeah, how about I shoot a fucking shot, huh? Don't do it. You're having fun.
    33:08
    I need... I'm out that's you I name three beer pinball if I go beyond too much you're done less yeah not good three beers perfect pinball that's my best pinball let's get that on video so then when I fuck it all up tonight because it's number three proof you'll have proof yeah I want to see do or die multi-ball Yeah, me too.
    33:41
    One of these days, I'm just going to take the glass off. Yeah, aren't you? Like, even with the glass off, you'd have to flick for like half an hour to hit everything you need to hit.
    33:53
    The only time I got to, so I got very close to, I lived do or die. Yeah. But that was on like an Ironman, which was not level. Well, do or die and do or die multiball are two different things. Oh, what's do or die multiball? Do or Die multi-ball is completing absolutely everything. You need a super jackpot with every single boss. You need to finish all the shots in Jericho. Then I think you need to bring it back around to get Do or Die again.
    34:27
    And that starts, I don't know, it's unachievable. It's ridiculous. Cool. Well, thanks a lot. A lot of your outfit and my team. My man.
    34:38
    giving us something to shoot for that we'll never hit. You know, we all have dead breeds, and that's why we love pinball. Liv, one shot, one shot, one freaking shot. Love you. There we go. Love you. Come back up.
    34:54
    Or go up a ramp, whatever you want. I don't care. Donate to kids, folks. You know, it's the children that... It's the children that... They love pinball.
    35:05
    I mean, I think they do. Did you play pinball as a small child? No, I didn't play pinball until like three and a half years ago. Oh, really? Oh, my God. Everybody out of the pool. Frickin' frick. Well, listen, you know, I don't have that many points, but what I do lack in points, I make up for in spirit. So, uh... What? I don't know, dude. reading is not one of my strong suits well I read someone as Cookie Monster so it's you know so Cookie Monster tell me oh right there we go alright well we've got the monger out with that all the money yeah well but don't worry come on you have a plan yeah well a secret plan shit it's a secret plan that makes it even worse yeah We got a secret for you.
    36:06
    All right, I got my secret. You know, a tradition of music and guys, the game may be bullshit, but that's what I like about people. I like games that are deeply unfair. Yeah, deeply unfair, super complicated. Not in a rules. No, this is a... I guess the complication is physical, because if you don't make your shots, you're done. I think a lot of people... Like, I know a lot of people, when they look at this game, they think that there's not a lot going on. Because all these shots that are pretty far back, like the plate dealing, is fairly fair.
    36:47
    It's going to drain right now. I can feel it. I can smell it. All right, War Machine's lit. Thank you, Nolan. I do have a tough spirit.
    36:57
    Be careful. Oh. Well, did you count the War Machine cap? I didn't hit it. All right. I didn't hit it. Well, I have to have nine million points of spirit. Everybody out of the pool.
    37:13
    Yeah, that guy better have a spirit. My name is Ben, and, yeah, I play a different type of pinball, a pinball that is reliant entirely on spirit. Spirit, it's all spirit. If you look at the pinball, the Chicago scoring, third season, it's not on scores, it's on spirit.
    37:33
    Oh. Well, fuck this. We have to go longer. Let's take it home. Good save. Nice little alley pass there.
    37:47
    With that kneecap. Oh, God. You son of a bitch. Stinky dream. Well, you know what? Ben played for style points.
    38:04
    Hell yeah. Thank you, Voltaic. Listening to Space Lincoln now. Yeah, well, go for it, man. All right.
    38:13
    So we're changing the rules a bit. It's best X out of Y. All right, well. We'll figure out what those numbers are. None of you playing along at home, Jack is 3-0.
    38:29
    But you know what? Points are everything. No, points are nothing. If you have a better time, who has the bigger smile tonight? Probably you. It's definitely me. Who has the louder voice? It's absolutely me. It's all that spirit. Hold on. I've got to grab a beer. All right. Heath, well, Jack gets beer. I'm going to no I can't answer any questions about Iron Man that you guys don't already know I could probably in the time that it takes Jack to get a beer complete a game with drains that weren't intentional before he walks back in he also said that the mic won't cut out when he walks out so hopefully you're hearing all this incredible entertainment I'm sorry. Deserve you.
    39:22
    Oh, Crystal, who's Blue Continental, was on an episode of Space Lincoln. It was the one about ships. I think it was like the fifth or sixth one. I don't remember. It's called Ships. About ships? About the ships of Star Trek. About the design of the ships. There was the XJ7.
    39:44
    Yeah. Wait, no. Okay. I don't know. Yeah, this is secret stuff you guys don't know. Yeah, yeah. We talk about the secret stuff.
    39:53
    All right, here we go. Let's keep this train rolling. Folks, thanks again for tuning in. We have Ben Vigent. Good enough. I'm Jack Danger. And we're taking it easy tonight. Yeah. We're playing the best blank out of blank. So far, I'm up three games. But not yet unleashed. Not yet unleashed. He's my secret weapon. Do you have a knife or something? What are you going to do to me? Well, you know what? It would be a secret weapon if I told you. And stab.
    40:30
    Oh, okay. Solve for X, yes. Carry the four. Here we go. You know, Brad, I was an English major, so I can't solve that, nor can I do well at Ironman. So I'm too deaf. English degrees do not translate to pinball that well. Yeah. Oh, is that it?
    40:48
    Oh, is that it? Is that it? I just got hit. I pounced a chance. I just got hit on by it. Yeah. Well, there we go.
    40:59
    Now, what the hell was that shit? There was enough energy. The ramp launched it against the glass or something.
    41:10
    What? Now I'm hearing stuff I've never heard before. Well, I might be skirting something. Oh, is this your secret weapon? I can't think of it. A mode no one knows about?
    41:22
    Okay, so you're saying there's a chance. All right, so see everybody, I'm already ahead by a substantial amount.
    41:33
    Points, points. Oh, my phone's going off. Which one of you nerds is calling me? The one that wants me to win. Yes. You want me to win, give Jack Baker a call while he plays. Please don't. Oh, my God. I tilted. That's a drink also. Yeah, I tilted the drink. Oh, boy.
    42:01
    Venice. Venice? Venice. What the fuck am I saying? Sorry. Don't hit the kids. Yeah. Well, the kids love it.
    42:08
    Elaine Venice. Keep it alive. Those are solid white. Is it better to be feared or respected? I don't know. It's a good question, my man. Come on, Tony Stark. Tell me what you got.
    42:27
    You have fast scoring going, too. Let's see if I can actually stack it. Oh, crap. Fast scoring. Oh! Fast scoring with a multi-ball. Yeah, let's see me not get any shots. That's going to be trouble.
    42:43
    That's going to be trouble. It's going to give me one more. Probably won't give me those. Oh! He gets them both. He's putting up a commanding lead first. And I have nothing going for myself going into ball three. Alright, let's make the fucking orbit, huh? Make the funky orbit. Yeah. Donate to kids. They love money. Kids are all about cash. We need to keep like a square counter so I can just hit a button every time someone swears and then convert that into cash somehow. Square jar. Oh! Get the ball stuck under the monger hood. Can I do a dirty stool? Oh, crap. Oh, all right. Yo, good ball. All right. I got some catching up to do. Kenny, do it. One shot the monger. Oh, shit. I thought it was hole three Trust me, you probably got this in the bag.
    43:57
    Hey, buddy. Hey, little buddy. Oh my god. Don't do it. No! That's it. Nicely done, brother.
    44:26
    Nicely done. Can I play with that? Yeah, play it on, man. All right. Then take the win. Ooh. Whiplash. Nice. Whiplash alone, not so good for me. But it's still a nice ball. I don't have anything as well. You can't really light anything up there. Oh, whatever. It's over. Yeah, also it has a terrible ball save. I've got two more marks to make now. Get that Jericho going. Do your bogeys.
    45:10
    I think bogeys and war machine. Yeah, that's kind of. That's a war machine shot. Let's drink it up. That's a tilt. Oh, that's two drinks.
    45:22
    Oh, crap. Dude, good job. Taking it. All right. You start us off, buddy. Lovely. Wonders go first.
    45:37
    Is this the beginning of something beautiful? We'll find out. Is this the secret weapon? What are we playing to? How tall is Jack? Find out next week on Deadfoot Kimball.
    45:59
    Whoa. Nope. It didn't matter. Oh, baby. All right. Do I get one more of these? Yeah, dude, do that.
    46:13
    Deep breath. Here we go. Skill shot. Inspector 16. That's a drink. I will do my drinking after my ball is...
    46:37
    Stop it, Iron Man. What? I got ripped off on a freaking monger shot there. Oh, come on. My man, Crystal. My man. Cheers. Cheers, Crystal.
    47:06
    Hey, buddy. Interesting little backhand there. There we go. Now we're making money. Printing my own cash, folks. Not hitting anything.
    47:21
    Oh, my gosh. Literally not hitting anything. How ironic, Tony. Easy, right? Thanks. Dad. Yeah, geez, Dad.
    47:43
    Come on, Dad. You got this, champ. Oh, that's a drink. Your water machine shot, folks. That went well. Yeah, Yancy. I love that. I love that call out. Well, that went well.
    48:06
    I love that you had some. And we love the sharks. The jets and the sharks. That's not worth a shit, is it? Some sexy orbits. You get about 100K every time it goes around. Lots of money. The kids love money. Donate to children. Say the F word. Donate to children.
    48:31
    All right. One more. All right. Two more hits. The iron mongers. That's one. There's his multiple. Is this silly to give that out as I did because I was being a showman? Oh, you mean draining it? Yeah, like the top. Oh, no, that's just, that's strategy, man. Yeah, well, people call me the master strategist. Master strategist.
    49:02
    You're like practically Batman for pinball. Oh, God. There you go. Look at this. Look at this! Oh! Lucky little inlay bounces there.
    49:15
    It's probably got nothing to do with it. Tradition, yeah. It just makes every triggered hit worth more money.
    49:23
    That was a waste of blessing. More of the kick. That's me. Oh, you little prick. Just hold on to it long enough that I can't. Oh.
    49:40
    Well, he's ready. Shoes. Whew. Ball two, six million. Nicely done. I did monger already, yeah? Okay. Indeed. Back down because you're backing down. Yeah, I'm going to ramp out here a little bit. By ramp out, I mean not.
    50:07
    I mean during. There's a lot of talk about deep Iron Man and rule discussion going on. Is there such a thing? There's a right note of what, like, how you could possibly extend it and raise the value. Oh, any mode is extended by hitting one machine.
    50:28
    Really? You extend the time of any mode by hitting one. You're right here first. Jack was the one that discovered that.
    50:39
    I'm hitting freaking nothing. And my voice is cracking. I'm so upset. Thank you, bitch. Donate to kids, folks.
    50:55
    That's all I wanted. I want fast scoring with... Yes. Oh. Okay, so the target, the paddle scoring did go up. Oh, work she's led. Yes, buddy. Hitting that on purpose may be a bit of a... So fast scoring's over? So okay, here's the deal. When you get Iron Man, first time around, all the triggers are worth more money. The second time you complete Iron Man, it's 2x playfield. What? Yeah. Wow, no one told me that you did that. Like 8 rooms. Alright, so, um, do I have to do bogeys first before I start War Machine? Let's try that. I want War Machine while I'm doing this though. Yeah.
    52:07
    Drink it up, folks. And you'll see it also extended the time. It'll say like time extended or some crap like that. It's also an adebol if you hit it again. Really? So I did do that.
    52:28
    Oh, and you're one marker away from Jericho. Yep. I just need Whiplash, which I can get right now if I work on him a little bit. There we go.
    52:40
    I'm one shot away from Whiplash. No. So, whiplash. Very nice. Not soon enough, though. So, this is whiplash fighting still.
    52:59
    But I think that means... Oh, we didn't do Manga yet? Oh, Jericho is ready, yeah. How do you start Jericho? That's right up the center. So... Oh, my lord. You all still have that whip, though, right? I don't know. Oh, we'll find out. Either someone will tell us or we'll find out. 2X the door to I Hurry Up with double scoring for 70 mil? That would be disgusting. This is your best square of the evening, I believe. Of the evening, for sure.
    53:35
    Well, here we go. I'm going to bring it in, all the cash. Now, can I start anything during your flashing now? Absolutely nothing. All right, well, take a drink because I just hit a useless warm machine. Just hit that warm machine. Oh, it's over. Oh! I've never seen that. Usually it's just done.
    53:55
    Well, just hold at least one. There's another drink. Take two. Take three. Two of them were useless.
    54:06
    One of them actually did something. Yeah. And you know what? Sometimes that last one might not have even counted. Yeah, that's what I'm getting at. I was still hearing sound effects. In Whiplash Mill, too. We might have just done that.
    54:23
    It would be nice if I knew how many shots of anything I could run. Yeah. Write the games in your studio from best to worst. That would be hard. ACDC, number one. Brad, we'll figure out what we can do. But yeah, I'd say number one, ACDC.
    54:51
    Oh, I could have saved that. Number two, you know what, man? That's like picking kids. I don't know.
    54:58
    I mean, obviously you have a favorite, but once you have like four kids, it's hard to really start saying who's two or three.
    55:06
    All right, so Jericho. That is a route. Jericho is still very much wet. So let's get Jericho, folks. I want to see y'all drink. All right, so let's see.
    55:19
    Do you like that? Oh, you freaking got to be kidding me. Oh, you. I was going to say that was going to be a joke.
    55:31
    Jericho! Did not happen. Sorry, folks. Do you like Metallica? Oh, wait. Worst to best. Worst, absolutely, Data East Simpsons. Yeah, yeah. That's easy. That's an easy one. Second from the bottom.
    55:53
    Second from the bottom is probably... Man, these are all great games. Yeah. Well, why would you buy something you don't like? Yeah, I mean, we have Data East Simpsons because it came in a package of two other games. What did it come with? It came with Getaway and Whirlwind.
    56:15
    Whirlwind? We don't have a Whirlwind here. That is at Nick's Summer Home in Michigan. Come on. Campbell. Come on. Let's be the Whirlwind, Campbell.
    56:29
    Oh, brother. Shots fired, guys. Shots fired. Oh, so I took that. Here we go. Players, jack four. Um... ACDC works the best. Yancy, you're out of your mind. ACDC is better than Bram Stoker's Dracula, which is better than Metallica, which is better than Twilight Zone.
    56:52
    You know, it's all mood for me. You know, I'll go to ACDC at any time. I actually, I think I agree with Crystal on that ranking. That's it, I would. Like, I'm not sure if this tail's somewhere in the middle there. because I really like Fishtails.
    57:14
    But ACDC would be the top. Yes, absolutely. Without any... Stern freaking figured something out on that game. Yeah. They were ready. They were ready because they know that ACDC is the greatest competitive ball power. There you go.
    57:31
    Metallica is better than Food and Shelter is better than other games. You know, like, that's a fun... Metallica is a great game. Metallica is fun. Honestly, I despised that game until recently with all the code iterations. The final one where they added all the song modes.
    57:53
    I've only gotten to them a couple times, but I really enjoy those. Fishtails is better than Hotshot. I can't compare. You can't put an EM in there because it's a complete... That's like saying... I don't know. Crystal, have you ever played High Speed?
    58:15
    You did? No. Crystal, have you ever played High Speed? There's one over at Logan Hardware at Arcade. High Speed's fun. Getaway is the sequel to that? Yeah. And it's very much the same design as the Supercharger thing. And, like, some extra rules. But essentially, if you like high speed, you'll like the getaway. High speed. Yeah.
    58:41
    High speed? What? High speed. Yeah. What about it? I don't know. I thought you were like, you're cuing me. It sounds like you're saying, I just peed. Oh. Did anyone pick that up? No, I did. Did anyone else pick that up? No. High speed. And it's like high speed too. Get away. Yeah. it's really warm in here actually I'm actually wearing an apropos t-shirt today I'm wearing my skirt pinball shirt oh there you go that's like wearing a freaking Metallica shirt to a Metallica yeah I know I'm late but it's very hot in here and this was in the pile so I'm a pretty cool guy is what I'm saying I have a Star Trek podcast I'm I do a pinball league and I have a pinball teacher at a pinball stream.
    59:36
    So Alright, I turned the air conditioning No, sorry. I'm on Twitter. I turned the heat off. Be vigent.
    59:46
    Beef vigent. Yeah, I'm beef vigent. That'd be a great name on Twitter. Mm-hmm. Three dollars richer thanks to this All right here we go I go first What my name
    60:06
    Look at this sexy guy right here. Is that working? I love that picture of you, by the way. It's a great picture. Just the saddest dude in a bow tie.
    60:17
    When is that from? That's from... One of the guys in my studio got married a few years back and that was from his wedding. Ah. So that's Jack Danger's formal wear. Formal wear, exactly. Always bow ties. Always.
    60:38
    So, who just never dies? He said, I just find schemes that I get deals on. My collection has no real reason. What's your collection tradition? That's fair. I mean, you know, if you just like pinball for the sake of playing pinball, which a lot of people do, I'm on that I have I'm just about I have like a little pinball savings fund Oh wait What? Oh is it What are you doing there buddy?
    61:11
    Oh there we go Just needed a little But I have a little pinball savings fund That's just about ready to buy a machine And I don't have I'm not looking for a specific game. It will probably be what is the best deal at the time. Right. Buy a Baywatch?
    61:33
    Baywatch is a lot of money. Wait, are you telling me that the right deal comes along, but it's like the worst game? No. I would buy a Space Jam. I definitely would buy a Space Jam. There are some games I would buy. Baywatch, because as I said, that's a lot of game for a price that it usually commands. Yeah, Tradition, when the hell are you going to be on the show, man? Come on.
    61:59
    So he, Roadshow, Iron Man, Funhouse, Attack from Mars, just sold Tota. Oh, Tradition, have I emailed you? Or you emailed me? Because I'm pretty sure I emailed someone for Pinball Chicago who told me they had a Roadshow.
    62:19
    Tradition, just leave early. I'll give you a note or something. I am a doctor. To give to your... I'm also... I am ordained. Yeah. He's ordained and I'm a doctor. We're perfect parents, so... Father, doctor, father. Anyway, I was going to say, Tradition emailed me. He was interested in the week.
    62:47
    Oh, hell yeah. Deadflip was dominating this shit until we lost our very first game in the finals. But Deadflip is looking for new players, I believe. Is that correct? Yeah, we need a fourth.
    63:04
    Tryouts and makeout sessions will happen soon. Yeah. And I'm pretty sure, especially because we'll be coming into the winter, that there might be a couple people who are a little less interested. Tradition. Dude, yes. Contact me on some social network. Do you have LL? No one gets that. No, no. I'm making a comedy joke. LL.
    63:35
    If you holler at me on, like, Facebook. What? So that I can... You're ready, man. How do I get one? You hit a drone on your way up there. Oh, I didn't know that. Drone's light war machine. What? It even says that. I know. Also, they already talked about that, too. Yeah.
    63:57
    Fuck. Me. No. Oh, well, don't worry, friends. I still have everything. That's a tilt. Yeah. Donate to kids.
    64:12
    Don't forget to have that sign in your home turf. Oh, Brad. What's my favorite game? I said it last time. If we're going into semantics, you guys lied about the rules.
    64:23
    I love you, Brad. That's good, Brad. I think last time I was here, I mentioned what my favorite game was, which is Funhaus. Funhaus is a jam. Oh, Brad. Also, Brad200X there said that he would like to donate a game for the stream.
    64:42
    So when Gavin comes to take his dark knight back. What is it? Brad's willing to donate a game to us. Brad, if you want to throw a list of the games that you're thinking of, let these guys duke it out.
    64:55
    Well, it can't be Rowland because we're going to get that out of hand. No, he's got a Roadshow, a Globetrotters, a Indy 500. I've never played Indy. He has a Mother game. That's a good one. It's the Mother game. that's a pet lullaby yeah honestly just find me on Facebook Jack Danger it's just that easy I look like I'm doing that Yeti stance you know when you catch the Yeti but I'm like stealing stuff at a wedding and I have a big stupid mustache on my face Jada was wondering what my least favorite game is that I'll have to think about because I'm generally positive about every game I don't like the first game Right. Space Jam's down there, but, I mean, I'm sure there's games out there that you hate more. Like, I really don't like Big Buck Hunter. I've never played that. I've heard it's not very good. Or, you know, I don't like, why am I looking around here? Yeah, we already established that we like those games.
    66:05
    Oh, Stern Indiana Jones. Oh, I've heard that's pretty bad. It's multi-ball capabilities. 24 is pretty crummy. It's multi-ball capabilities are you get your multi-ball, and the Ark of the Covenant opens up and just dumps, like, a shitload of balls on you. That's funny. That's it. I might say 24 is probably of the games I've played. There you go. So he has a Roadshow, a Globetrotters, an X-Men Pro, and an Indy 500. I've never played Indy 500. Globetrotters I love because it's kind of a dick.
    66:45
    Donate X-Men Pro so I can watch it. I really like the last iteration. Now that it's about a year old, the final version of the rules for X-Men. For X-Men? I think they really fixed that game up. I think Lyman did that on his own time, too. He just went back to correct. I don't think that was a Lyman. I don't think that was. I think it was... Then what is the game where Lyman went back and, like, did... He, like, fixed up code for something on his own time. I think that's the general MO for, like, late updates. Star Wars Phantom Menace Episode 1. Ooh, I don't like that one. Thank you, Crystal. Yeah. That game would... I wouldn't use that for Firewood.
    67:28
    Crystal, what... That game destroyed Kimball. I would rather play Space Jam. Yeah. That game is, in my mind, responsible for a lot of the greatest pinball companies that were around to just go under.
    67:43
    Pinball 2000 was the dumbest idea. Oh, I like pinball. No. It's not like... Gross. No. I love that. Well, that's it.
    67:53
    Then we're going to do it for another day. What we're arguing today is we are on a pinball live stream. Pinball live stream. Yeah, let's not talk about pinball while we're streaming. I'd rather talk about it while we're streaming. Like, okay, so you like the Revenge for Mars? I like Revenge for Mars, but I think that as a platform, I think as a platform, I think that it addressed, like, I still see people walk up to it and be kind of impressed. Even at headquarters, I see a lot of people come up, There we go! Lyman fixed Tron on his own time. That's right. Thanks, Yancy.
    68:40
    But I feel that... Dude, tradition, if you want to store a funhouse here, we will make room. I'll make room, too. I'll probably never sleep here because that Rudy head scares the crap out of me.
    68:59
    But tradition, I'll make room, too. I'll save me some pie and fucking... You know what, Jaden? You say that the only PIN2K machine that you like is Revenge for Mars, but I only know of two machines. Yeah, there are only two, and then there's, I mean, if you want to be really pedantic, you can say there's Wizard Glocks, but that was never finished or released. Yeah, because PIN2K was awful and no one liked it. No.
    69:30
    Revenge for Mars. Dirty Jay, thanks for coming, buddy. you actually made it at a decent time. Uh, Revenge got some pretty good numbers. Did you beat me? I beat the bonus.
    69:44
    Oh, I think I did! Oh, no! By 100k. What a... Oh, that sucks, dude. Sorry, buddy. Boo! Boo earns. Alright, so the score is standing with Ben has one point and Jack has five. By the way, don't trust that number because it's never... You can refresh that. It's a completely different thing. I don't even know why they put that there.
    70:14
    Again, thanks for everyone coming. We're still playing. I'm not saying goodbye. I'm just saying thank you for coming. I love you. You're all good. All right, David has another good question. David, if you could get any machine that still blocks anew, which would it be? just friended you Jack alright buddy wait you're a pedophile and a 13 year old girl am I reading that wrong I mean you could say something like I'd get a boxed and new big bang bar and sell it for $20,000 and then buy six machines That artwork is so good. That's like cheating the intent of this question. It's like a game that you want. Not a game you want to turn into some stupid profit thing. Well, I mean, Big Bang Bar is a good game. And its own one would be pretty cool because it's... Yeah, I think... Like, without flipping it, even so. New end box, Big Lebowski. Yeah, but that is... But we've never played it. Right. Like, it looks really cool. I got my hands on it, and the code's not even close to done. I would say for me, I really, really, really, if you're listening and you have one to donate to the studio, I need a Stargazer. I need one bad. That game.
    71:39
    That's a Stern. It's got the star rollovers above the flippers. And that game is all spinners, and it is freaking incredible. And something, I don't know what it is, but when you hit that spinner, when it's lit up, you hit that spinner. And this isn't, like, being metaphysical or anything. When you hit that spinner, the game just starts to feel different. I don't know if it's, like, a sound that it's making or something, but it just, like, starts vibrating in your hands, and it's gorgeous.
    72:07
    The spinners feel super rewarding when you hit them. It's got some, like, Zodiac nonsense happening. It's got some hippie-faced hippie holding a glowing hula hoop. I think that the art on those classic sterns is incredible. Yeah. I think that's a, if, when I finally get the money to buy one, I would probably buy almost any classic series. Oh, God, yes. Like, Stargazer. I mean, I'd buy Stargazer. I'd buy, Logan Hardware used to have a big game, which I had a shitload of fun playing. I like Flight 2000. Yancy, Stargazer is your favorite game of all time? Me too, man. And I only don't say that above ACDC because I just, I know there will never be a chance for me to possibly own one. They're like impossibly expensive and hard to find. I think Dave Hagee has one. Oh, yeah? I've never been to his place. A lot of people haven't been to his place. Oh, it's a crowded mystery. I like to think he's an acquaintance. But come on, Dave.
    73:12
    Hand me on, bro. What's going on? Brad gets to go there. What the crap? I'm taller than him. Ian Fireball. I think, Colt Jack, I mentioned this last time I was here. I grew up with a fireball. My parents still have a fireball classic, but that's the solid state fireball. I need another beer. One second. All right.
    73:34
    But, I mean, I guess brand new, then possibly I would just think about, like, 70s and 80s, because I kind of like the talk of Stargazers, because you can't get a lot of those in great condition anymore. so sorry folks I don't know it would probably be some sort of stern or one of the really good valleys like Fathom or dead noise yeah like something like Fathom or any of the good sterns was it Comet? I'm back Comet's the name of the roller coaster what are the other space ones I'll have to look it up. There's Flight 2009. They did a bunch of space ones. Wait, what the?
    74:26
    There's Space Shuttle. Space Shuttle's great, though. I love that game. That would be a top nine. All right. Let's keep this train rolling.
    74:38
    The trade is with Rob. Whenever he gets around to finishing Stargazer, I want Yancy. Listen. Bro. I saw that you mentioned that I probably didn't recognize you at Expo, and you know what's funny is I seriously didn't recognize you. But you should come to the studio. Thank you, Colton. You should come to the studio. We need to hang out, and then I need to come play Stargazer. Yeah. You know, we'll be friends first so that it's not weird, and then we'll go play Stargazer. Any of those stories from that period, any of the ballads from that period, I love those games what do you think locked you up I might be able to load a meteor at some point yo that'd be great get it in you have I think the values because I think the students used a lot of the same stuff a lot of the same yeah Yeah, a lot of the steps, someone will correct me and say what I mean by stuff.
    75:49
    But they have a really nice feel. Yeah. They just feel really great. Really very nice and good. Yeah. And, yeah, they have, all the valleys have the, like, the Nesquik drop targets. Oh, yeah. They've got Metallica, which is a really cool thing. Jack Danger for the kids all the interns have so many spinners that's a drink we are currently playing in our shooting space where we shoot our videos and photography and stuff like that and when we got our first three or four pins we kept them out there because I'm like, listen, we just, this room is important. We can't put any pins back here. And I'm like, okay, we could put three pins back here, and we stuck them in that corner. And I'm like, I guess we could fit three more in here, and we took over this wall here. And now this room is just almost unusable. It is turned into a pinball room. You know, but that's the best way to, like, that's a great thing. It is a great thing. And you know what else is great? Is I love pinball. I don't ever want to buy a pinball machine.
    77:06
    Because I'm... Or, it's not that I don't want to, but I don't have to. Because I got these guys. I got these guys to buy all these pins, and I get to play whenever I freaking want to.
    77:17
    Ah! Oh! Give me that fucking bonus, buddy. You trying to scare the game? Yeah. Ah! I can be very intuitive. I refuse to be. Listen, Iron Man. Tony Stark, if that'll do. I like the old Spider-Man pin. I have not played Pinabunch. Let me make sure your batteries are good. That looks fine.
    77:40
    That looks fine. Dude, we're getting a battery check. How many deaths are on this? One? Yeah, that's one. Look at my butt for me real quick.
    77:50
    Battery check. Ooh, we are getting low on both microphones. That's fine. I'm going to make a swap real quick. Oh, it's my ball. I'm going to play my ball, then I'm going to go switch off the batteries for my mic. How about the offices where I have my company?
    78:07
    What? I love if my office doesn't involve me. We're just not doing that. Ben, what do you do? I do social media customer support. Social media customer support? Yeah. Is that... So it's like, for, um, and so it's like, actually, uh, like, secretly tweeting, like, That's a drink. Like, for, they, That's a drink. You know how people are always, like, tweeting at Delta, and they're saying, My flight's late. You're at your, and there's someone that feedbacks for sorry. You're the dude that says sorry. Yeah, I don't work at Delta, but that's what I do. That's my job.
    78:54
    Why the hell did you think of Delta? I didn't even remember that that was an airline. I think that when most people think of those media I think so many stories of people tweeting at airlines it's just something like you need that help immediately yeah not that like some dude in like an office no doubt 600 miles away can actually do anything about it here's a twitter all day to help you tweeters that's not ball three I believe so. You have it, ball two. All right, I'm going to slip out my batteries. All right, well, don't worry. I won't take a very long time. I'm a great iron man.
    79:41
    There you go. Let's get the other three. We're not. Don't get them. I don't need them. I just need one ball to play this fucking game. Donate to children. If you're going to swear, donate your children.
    80:00
    Well, Brad, I'm a doctor in my spare time. I'm actually, I'm an unlicensed... I'm a doctor, but definitely not. Yeah, no, no, no. All right, so I am fresh. Brad, new batteries, whoops.
    80:16
    Defending private messages, goals, girlfriends, ha ha. That's why I delete exes immediately from my phone, from Facebook, and from Twitter. Yeah, that's trouble.
    80:27
    Because it's really easy to get drunk and make some stupid mistakes. I have done a lot of silly drunk texting in my life, but mine too actually is because I'm responsible enough when I'm sober to delete those immediately. Delete them. If you know yourself, you know that you can get into trouble. Oh, God, yes. So, Galito, just, you know, if they need you for something, I'll seek you out. But they're not going to ever, I promise. Yeah, no kidding. All right, folks. Now let's tap a little over there.
    81:02
    We are officially new battery. Yeah. Let's go. High score. So, Monger needs two hits and bogeys need one. So I'm going to get one hit on Monger.
    81:22
    Actually, I'm just not going to hit anything apparently. Please? You. Oh, my God. All right. So what you have to do in that circumstance is if you want to mix your Monger multiball with bogeys, you have to light bogeys first. That goes with any multiball. Light bogeys first, then get your multiball, then you can rock the bogeys with your multiball. Bogey, bogey, bogey, bogey. Two shots. Morton Salt has sent you a private message. I miss you, baby. Come back.
    81:56
    Bam. Yeah. Wait, is Nightclub even in the cast? So last night, I went to Logan Arcade. Yeah. They had an event where all the pins in the background free play. Oh, yeah. They had a DJ. And they had a DJ, and the expensive beers were not expensive. Yeah. How was that? It was pretty good. But the best part of it all, the gentleman is not in chat. Oh, shit. But someone tapped me on the shoulder and says, hey, you're Jack Dane here. I watch your stream every day. This is the first physical recognition I've gotten from this stream. Received. Now, everyone probably just knows that I gave up a super jackpot, but I'm already ahead, so I don't really care. You're killing it. Don't worry about it. You already won.
    82:58
    So, this guy, he doesn't like to chat in the chat, which sucks, but, you know, whatever. But he said, you're a hell of a lot taller than I thought you were going to be.
    83:10
    I guess you can't really see how enormous I am. I, uh, two to six, probably. Any of our friends at home playing? Let's see.
    83:22
    Ooh, two to five. Uh, did I forget to write down a win? I don't know. I don't think it matters. Dude, that was me. Mike, yes! How the hell are you? I just looked in the freaking list. You weren't there. Um, so I invited Mike to come onto the stream, and I invite anyone in Chicago to come to the studio, man. Give me a heads up. I need like one day ahead of time so I can build your little sports graphic thing. And yeah, but Mike, find me on the Facebooks. Friend me or some nonsense. I'm Jack Danger.
    84:00
    And I will go through your photos and I will cut your head out and put you on your very own lower third. Boop. Right here. You see this? This hovering little thing here? Yeah. Is the foodie still there? We'll just flip this over. Yeah.
    84:20
    Can I line my head up? No, I can't. But Mike, it was awesome meeting you last night, man. That was great. And you said you had some friends that you might want to bring along. By all means, whoever you want to bring. That'd be great. If anyone wants to play pinball tomorrow, I'm almost always, almost every Friday, I go to Logan from like 5 to 7.30. Every Monday? Friday. Every Friday? It's empty. 5 to 7. Every Friday. 5 to 7.
    84:51
    And usually a bunch of people kind of drop in. Like Andy and Richie and Benson. What's his name? Stanley? Yeah, Stan Sola. Yeah. They, all these. Potential for being the fourth dead flip member. All these folks fly in. So if you're free tomorrow night, there's always a couple people. Well, first off, the only thing you should be doing at 5 to 7 is watching the stream. Oh, yeah.
    85:21
    That's right. That's true. I'm excited exactly with this. But I'm sure you can convince Zespi to put the stream on one of the TVs.
    85:32
    It's probably not that hard. Right. You just airplay it. That's airplay, right? Just airplay it right to the TV. Should be good. Yeah, Mike, you're more than welcome, man. Just give me a holler ahead of time, and we'll speak you guys up. Get you on stream. And if you need some coaching, I'd be more than happy to help. It's super low-key, super chill. No pressure at all. Just play pinball, drink some beer, swear, and then say donate to kids. Yeah. Kids.
    86:02
    They're the real ones that need to swear. Yeah. The kids should be swearing more than we are. Yeah. You know? It's a donate zone. Juvenile. It's juvenile. Juvenile.
    86:13
    So, Ben's going to start us off. Yeah. Because he won the last game. Well. That's all I got. So, if you do the top ones, you get a free longer one. Apparently. Yeah. So, is that worth more?
    86:32
    Oh, shit. It crept right in the last, like, the way it turned off. but it crept in. Oh, you got it, buddy.
    86:43
    What are you up to, Obadiah? Oh, man, you're hitting all the drones. Yeah, it's because I'm not hitting what I need to. Yeah.
    86:53
    What are you up to, old big diaper? Yep. Drowning balonies. What the hell was that? That was a nervous finger twitch that worked out. Yeah, that panned out for you pretty well. Yeah, it turned out fine. We're all happy. We're all happy for me. Ball's still alive. He's still flippin'. We're laughing. We're having a great time. Nice, Jake.
    87:23
    Drink it up, folks. That sounded like an audio glitch. No, you nailed the spinner without going up the loop. Yeah. It was going so fast.
    87:37
    Yeah, man, send me a message. We'll get this thing set up. Tradition, I want to get your ass over here too, man. Yeah, we should figure all that out.
    87:50
    We'll have like a viewer stream. Get everyone on here. Oh, baby. Yo, Ben ain't messing around now. You know what it is. He had us three beers. Yeah, I was just going to say that. And now that I am on like beer four, we're playing to an unspecified number.
    88:17
    But if it was three out of five, this would have ended at like 511. Swearing and drinking. What pinball is all about. Brad, amen, man.
    88:32
    Oh. Nice queen, too. I ain't swearing, I ain't flipping. There was something there. I don't know where I was going.
    88:43
    5.8 on ball one. That is, without a doubt, my best ball one. That was a solid score, my man. This is, I think, one of our best bugs have a pleasant surprise. It was a good question. I enjoyed it. Blessing night. Oh, yeah, you're dressed up all fancy in yours, too. Can you just not drain, maybe? That'd be awesome.
    89:11
    I'm doing what's called Casey Jones-ing. You shit the first two balls away because you don't care, because you're going to make all your money. One ball, one ball for you. Drink up. That's a warm machine, guys.
    89:26
    Draining. That's your balls, man. Are those in? Okay, hold on. Let me explain something to you. Yes. There is no possible way to light extra ball except for when you get all your shields and it lights that shield in front of war machine Yes, when you hit that that's a mystery award The only way to light special or extra ball is through that and freaking got it I it might be it might be point or I might lose the ball. No, I got it. Let's see Yeah it points There three million to that Oh that not bad and war Machine lit now Dude you are tearing it up right now I will take the three million Three million on Iron Man folks is a whole game
    90:08
    Yeah. A lot of my games. Nice job, buddy. So hitting... Oh! That's what you wanted. Now, if you hit War Machine again, you'll have another... Get it in! There you go. I just got two drinks. Folks, he is lighting it up.
    90:30
    Well, now you just want to hit everything. Get the ramps, get the loop. Get control of the ball. Get another at-a-ball.
    90:40
    Or not, I don't care. Wait, why did it do that? I don't know. One more hit on Whiplash to get his jackpot.
    90:51
    Or two more hits. All right, one more hit to get the jackpot. Dude, you were murdering that war machine shot.
    91:05
    Everyone's going to be drunk at home. Oh yeah, Brad got a special last night on this game, and it was worth close to 8 million points.
    91:20
    Holy shoes, dude. Keep that up. Oh, my God. Now it's not tilting. Yeah, tilting might not be the thing you're shooting for. All right.
    91:38
    Oh, there's another ball up there. You didn't realize you were still in multiple? I didn't know that there was a ball stuck in that. I didn't know that. Balls tend to get stuck on that little top thing up there. Oh, I didn't know I was playing dirty pool.
    91:52
    Oh, well. points to points. Yep. And that's that. In drains and drains. Yeah. All right, ball two. Ball two with 18 million. Holy frick.
    92:04
    All right, let's see if we can even come close to that. Then a master disaster over here. That was my secret weapon. What do you mean? Were you just waiting for a good game to say that was your secret weapon? Possibly. I just threw up in two. It's called drain.
    92:25
    Flip. Sector 16. 200,000. Can I please get the monger? Oh, that was dirty. Also dirty. I had to.
    92:46
    Hair assault. I'm not hitting what I want. We got a hill to climb, folks. I'm in a good position, but I'm also kind of in jail. Like, there's not really very much... Bogeys, man. Bogeys, yeah. Ramp it out. Yeah.
    93:10
    Or just cook for our cut for longer again. Apparently. early Christmas I'm closer to starting it would probably be less shots for me to do monger yeah that's doing it suck it well monger's ready yeah all you have to do is touch the spinner for that to go off or just not make a fucking shot it's all for the kids wearing a carry for the kids. How many more shots? Five. Eight whiplash shots. There we go. The kids love it. They love the Ironmonger. They love magnets. They eat funny balls.
    94:02
    That's that. Was that an Ironman joke? That was cute. Do I get to 20? I did. Time to 10. Time to pen. Alright, I got some work.
    94:16
    Oh no! First off, that's not how you do this. Alright, let's get into the old pinball thing too. I'll be quiet because I like to spend time. Touch it! Touch it! Touch it! Touch it!
    94:42
    Just don't drain. That's all I need you to do. Don't drain. Don't drain. Thanks, bud. All right, now hit this Fienar. Perfect.
    95:18
    And hit Monger a handful more times, and we'll be good. All right, just, you know, live first and foremost.
    95:36
    Love you. I love you. I hate you. All right. Super skill set. Ready? Oh, my Lord. I got nervous. Oh, that was fun. Damn. That was a good rally. I thought I was coming for it. You, uh, yeah. Three to five. Man, he's on a roll. Yeah. Fired up, buddy.
    96:00
    All right. We're going to play until you win. We're not leaving until I'm ahead. Mm-hmm. the ultimate short plunge the one that comes right back to the point yeah it bounced around too much up there hands-free I miss hands-free skill shots We need more of those. Avengers has one. Yeah, well, okay. I mean, outside of terrible pinball machines. There's a game. Oh, dude, Avengers. That game is trash walk.
    96:50
    Transformers has a hands-free skill shot. What's that? You know, I don't like Transformers that much. I don't mind it. It's very boring. Darth just got an LE Transformers. Drink it up, folks. An LE Transformers for, like, next to nothing.
    97:12
    And an LE... I'm buying it for next to nothing. Yeah. Next to nothing. Ooh, the little crotch top. All right. Crotch top. Okay. Thanks, buddy.
    97:30
    He's certainly better than me. Okay, into the jets, which was what I was trying not to do. But, hey, you know what? Short plunge to avoid that. And there it is.
    97:55
    200,000. 400,000. Yep. Yeah, well, we've been having fun, and that was fun. It's time for the bonger. Now it's time for the punisher.
    98:07
    This guy's a pain in the butt. Kneecaps. Beautiful. Oh! I went for the weirdest puns. Here's the fucking thing. You always go opposite kneecaps. So right flipper to left kneecap.
    98:25
    Or else it just turns into like a nightmare of hair. What? No. Brad thinks the Transformers is underrated.
    98:36
    I don't know. I think that it gets a lot of undue hatred, but it really doesn't do that much for me. Maybe it's the beat.
    98:47
    The rules aren't that interesting to me. I don't know. I don't know, man. It's the... I think I need to spend some serious time with him. Yeah. I even like Avatar. You know what? I love Avatar. I know a lot of people that hate Avatar. Because Avatar... Do I get Monger? No, it's good. Monger's gone already? Yeah, you can get it. You can get it. I don't know.
    99:22
    Mother Fartstone. Yeah. At a ball. for the work. Come on, Paul. Yeah, Avatar gets in with like a pretty bad rap. Yes, it does. But... It's not like... The play field definitely doesn't have a lot going on. No, but it's all like just constantly stacking multiballs. Yes.
    99:45
    Yeah, you know when you're dealing with Avatar, you can have a pretty... You'll open that thing wide up, yeah. What? You'll open Avatar wide up, you know, when you're doing that.
    99:55
    Okay, well, that... I'm sorry. So... That's the last. I'm going to shoot that on purpose. Let's try.
    100:09
    Let's try. I could have saved that, and then I didn't. All right. Well, don't worry, friends. I'm back. It's me, Benjamin.
    100:19
    I hit it a little too far, but that's okay because it plays right into my secret plan. I said that earlier. Right into my secret plan. But it turns out I was lying.
    100:32
    His secret plan was waiting until he got a good ball to say that was the secret plan. Possible, but not probable. There you go.
    100:45
    So, wait, now, more machine gives me an edible than any ball? I think so, yeah. Oh. I didn't know that.
    100:53
    All right, well, let's get control of the... I think so. All right, well, all right. We've already lost control. Are you going to give that back, please? You're already out of control.
    101:02
    Okay. Just clip his kneecap. There you go. It's beautiful. He created the best war ever. One heap. Oh, and I hit the eyeball. All right, I guess I was correct. Oh, what? He scooped it up there with another ball.
    101:32
    That was a mid-air collision that just resulted in him collecting that super jackpot. Three. Ah. All right. Well, that was a pretty good rally. I think you might be on top. Yes. For now. I mean, a house ball could save you there. Yes, a house ball will save you there.
    102:09
    Yeah, just flip them to pops forever. You know, that'll drain, right? That's it. You did it. That's it, folks. Jack picks it up, bud. Valiant, Valiant So start bogeys then hit warm machine That's the job I've been tasked with Or draining, I don't know Either one, either one's fine Not sure That was a spoiled drop catch It's the shield, not warm machine Uh, no, I think it's War Machine. Honestly.
    102:56
    Alright, let's write down a point. Yep. We're just prolonging this. Close match. Josh Bacon! TF is a G title. G for Gomez. Clunky as hell.
    103:14
    I mean, really, only Avengers is a clunky game. Wait, TF. No, Transformers. Transformers, yeah. Like, GoBenz teams tend to have those kind of nice, quick, fast shots. Yeah. Like, Diamonix, Transformers, Lord of the Rings.
    103:35
    Avengers just, there's just something off with that game. I can't figure it out. It's like the... I have a good game. I kind of like Avengers. The left orbit's a little too tight. The Hulk toy's a little too clunky. the spinning Tesseract is a little just, it just feels like they took parts and went, yay, whatever fell onto the play field, they're like, bolt it down. Well, I think with Transformers, they were really trying to do, like, they get a lot of criticism for kind of doing kind of samey designs. So it's like, let's do something really different. And then they did, but it necessarily different because it's great. Yeah, it doesn't mean better. It does not mean better. Yeah, yeah. And so that's probably my prototype.
    104:27
    Oh, the bathroom. I need a bathroom break. It's also that the shots are, like, in terms of the rules, the shots are balanced. The last little bit is the game.
    104:39
    Stop making me slap you. I'll do it again. Damn it. Time for a fast-forward. No. All right. Ooh. Game, Dave.
    104:55
    I got to turn that up. You are not authorized to shake the game, Dave. Ben steps up to the plate. He short plunges. Back down to the plunger.
    105:08
    It's. Whoa, he just. Nails the drums. I love the drums. That's my favorite shot. Come on, do it with me.
    105:19
    That was tense, wasn't it? That was milliseconds. Milliseconds away from being. That's a drink. And there's old Monty. There's old Monty. Up to no good once again. Ben, keep playing. Entertain the internet. I'm going to go to the bathroom. All right. Good luck. So, how are we doing over here? Still talking about transformers, but that's fine. Let's go for the knees.
    106:01
    Jack probably heard that, so he knows that I just lost my ball, so he needs to speed it up. But let's take a look. I hate TIFF LA. I don't like the way they have the pro shoes. I think that, isn't it like with the limited edition Transformers, doesn't that have weird toying on the right ramp? Doesn't that have all sorts of weird problems? At least at the location I played that has one that is not known for great maintenance of their games, they kept having problems with it. But I also thought I heard someone complain about that. I could be wrong. Let's see. But I don't know. I think the idea of choosing a different side with Transformers is kind of cool. The modes don't really do very much for me. It doesn't really particularly feel like there's a difference between choosing those.
    107:08
    And I haven't played in a place with the volume up, so I don't know if the music's different or the callouts are different or anything like that.
    107:16
    But yeah, Transformers never did a whole lot for me. I think the Pro does shoot a lot better than the LE, though. I kind of like the vendors now I'm one of like three people I hope no one heard me urinate I apologize for that I'm pretty sure I hit mute on the mic well we'll find out in a little bit when everyone's making some nasty faces alright I think we're good Transformers Limited Edition.
    107:58
    Okay, so I have a million points. Let's get two. Let's go for two. Drink it up, nerds. Let's go for two.
    108:19
    My life. Speaking of all their games, Give one a good help. Put your front ass deep. Speaking of roller games. Ooh. Oh, roller games is great. Rock, rock, rock, roller games. Oh, and if you're not playing roller games with the volume all the way up, you are not playing roller games, my friend.
    108:44
    That is the canonical way to play roller games is with the volume all the way up. That's a prank. At maximum.
    108:57
    If you don't hear it say, rock, rock, rock, give roller games, then you are not playing. You need to leave roller games with that freaking song stuck in your head.
    109:11
    Oh, well. Staring at all those gorgeous logos like Pepsi. Well, that was a whole lot of nothing for a very important people. But, see, he did learn today.
    109:22
    Go through the wall! You're beating me. There was a free roller games on Chicago's Fight Club the week ago. No. There were probably rats in it.
    109:33
    I'd still take it. That's a drink. Well, here's the thing about getting a pinball game off the Chicago Fight Club. There's so many pinball people in Chicago that if there's something that's good, like something good like a roller game that's out there for any kind of deal, especially free. It's gone. Yeah. It's gone before they posted it. Yeah, you might think you've got it because you stopped like a half hour, but no, there's a guy, and he's going to get it for you. And if it's free, then you're going to see it a couple weeks later for $2,000. Yeah, no kidding. So, uh... Like, Gavin, I think, buys a lot of games and fixes them up and flips them. Yeah. But, like, he does that, like, he does a great job with it. Like, he's not going to... No, he's not ripping people off. Yeah, yeah, he's not ripping people off. He takes pride in his work. He's going to be a turner next time. Yes, he is. Oh, here we go. This is it.
    110:36
    Mom? No, Mom! Mom, Mom, Mom, Mom, Mom, Mom. The guy was moving and it was in his garage, spoke to him on the phone, someone was already on their way and they got it for free. Oh, yeah. It was, yeah.
    110:50
    Well. There's someone, they probably like ran out of there and was like, my daughter is sick, I have to go.
    110:57
    Gotta get that roll again. Yeah, it's like, uh-oh, my wife has a female, gotta be there. Like, whoo. That's crazy. I didn't I'm probably one of the only people that likes the way that Johnny Devonik shoots that's crazy, people love the way that James shoots you're out of your mind dude you think that you're alone but you're surrounded everyone, I'm not that one person no, multiball please that doesn't like the way that is this sculpting? Yeah. All right. I just got a duffel. A duffel? First time I saw a roll of games, I didn't even play it. Now I really love it. RoboCop was the same way. RoboCop! Oh, RoboCop! It's hilarious, man. That ramp that has the mid-air jump. Incredible. Yep.
    111:54
    I think, like, yeah, people kind of dismiss it out of hand because it looks like so many of those kind of crappy data eats, but it just fused so well. The old throw-togethers? That's great. Yeah, that's definitely great.
    112:11
    Hey, all my time's extended. Is it your ball time? No, it's not your ball time. No, it's just my time. That's my time. I got my time extended. I'm going to give you another five minutes.
    112:22
    That'd be great. Gives you your ball back. And then just turns the flickers off after like a minute.
    112:30
    Here's your question, if we're playing. What are, going along with what Kolchak said, what are games that you had a bad first impression of that grew on you? Metallica, absolutely. I would say almost any modern String. Modern 30s. When they first come out, the rules are very kind of half-baked. And then a year later, the rules are a lot better. That's a big joke with Nick Campbell and I, because every time a new String comes out, he looks at me and he's like, What do you think? I already know you hate it, right? You say that about every freaking new Stern that comes out. Because guess what? I hate every new Stern that comes out. They're all just whatever. How do you feel about The Walking Dead? The Walking... Okay. Here, hold on. Uh-oh. Scratch that. Found the exception. The Walking Dead... Okay, hate's a strong word. Dislike. Okay? For most of these games. Dislike. Because pinball's pinball. I'll play a freaking pinball machine. I don't care.
    113:25
    The Walking Dead... I like it. but they have a problem with that game that is more physical than software related so I'm afraid they won't be able to fix what's wrong there's two things wrong I have mine in my hand the feed from the pop bumpers down to the flipper is 85% of the time straight down the middle that is a physical problem that they're going to have to figure something out with second there is the jail at the back the prison when the doors are closed there's an opto opening the doors, it doesn't register on the doors you're breaking the opto beam so it registers a hit when those doors open guess what, they're blocking the fucking opto beam what? yes then you're relying solely on a bash toy that works one out of four hits and that is a problem that needs to be remedied but overall I think the game's pretty as hell I love white, black, brown and red together. I think it looks gorgeous. Even with the very, do you agree, with the super bright, like, all white LEDs? I think if it had a little bit of warmth. I think because it's that stark white, it feels very claustrophobic. And like, you're in like a... When it turns off all the lights to start something, and you hit one of the zombie shells, and then it comes, and then all the lights turn off except these, and you lose the ball, that's hilarious. But I feel that is intentional, because it's blinding you. It's like if you were in a zombie survival horror thing, you're walking around an office building with that fucking halogen light, and then all the power goes out, and then you make a shot wildly into the dark, and it flashes in your eyes. It's all that same effect. You're getting that same feel. But they need to fix those two problems. They're going to have to cut a hole in the freaking door for the prison to let the opto continue or come up with some barn door system, and they're going to have to come out with a fatter rubber for a post or something to fix that feed.
    115:29
    Oh, the Jailhead Switch, the Well Walker, and the Bicycle Girl Badge. Oh, Bicycle Girl Badge. Yeah, thanks for coming, buddy.
    115:40
    Bicycle Girl, I like that. I love that ramp shot. I love the layout for Walking Dead. I think, because essentially, Walking Dead has kind of the standard fan, but it just takes the ramps and puts them in the orbits, and puts the orbits where the ramps are, and it just feels different. It plays different. The only thing that is great, I do agree, but the only thing that sucks about that whole layout is because the feed from the pops is so dirty, that sucks, but every shot goes to the pop bumpers. It's just like that shot, that shot. Everything feeds to the freaking pops, and that feed from the pops to the flippers is like almost an instant drain. Yeah.
    116:24
    I think that once the rules are... I mean, that won't fix the pop feed, but I think once the rules are in for Walking Dead, it will probably be pretty cool. And that's what it is. You just wait for the rule set to come out. A lot of people are like, are you going to buy a Walking Dead? Well, if you would have asked me in Metallica when it first came out, I'd say, frick no, and so would have Nick, who bought this thing who unboxed. But since it came through like five or six code iterations, now it's fun. I thought that the early code for Metallica was pretty good in its very kind of remastered way, but I think that it's just, I think the layout is kind of fast and cruel, which I've already established. Right, exactly. The back glass on Metallica Pro. Oh, Colchak's leaving too. Bye, dude. Later, buddy. Yeah, we're about to wrap the stream up here. We're going to play one more game and call it, because sevens are cut off.
    117:19
    Thanks for coming. I think the back last on Metallica Pro is glorified high school artwork. I'm pretty tired about this. What about the play field? There's also inconsistencies here. If you look at, why does this guy have fucking fangs when he doesn't have them up here? Why?
    117:42
    If these faces weren't here and these terrible like, if you remove most of this, that's all fine. I think that's great.
    117:53
    But just there's something about his artwork. Like, these look like vaginas instead of eyeballs. Is it the faces that you don't like? It's the whole thing. Like, when you see people's binders in their freshman year, that is how they know how to draw. You know what I mean? Like, I like the art. but I mean even as someone who doesn't like it do you like it that at least this has a little bit more of like a point of view and a personality I will say absolutely I am excited and over the moon that there is no Photoshop nonsense going on I mean they use Photoshop not photographs it's all hand drawn stuff and I adore that I think it's fantastic. It's not Iron Man. It's not freaking ACDC. The design on the ACDC back glass is what I would have done in 1999, where you take some shit, you overlay some shit, and then guess what? You have, like, a dirt brush. Yeah. You put your dirt brush over it, and that just makes it feel edgy and cool. And, like, fake tape marks and fucking... Oh, that's... Oh, I didn't even know that. Oh, I haven't played that in many games, I guess. Alright, I'm done talking shit on Sterns. I love you guys. Stern, you make some great games. I have to say. It's a very Rat Rod style for a Calgary. Yes, okay. I will say, I feel the Rat Rod thing, but there's something about his shading, which is way too heavy handed, because they look like they're just, they look like they got beat up, and they're all greasy.
    119:32
    And you can see the, God, I don't want to keep talking about this, because I mean, Do you want me to take your first ball? You should. You can't see me right now, but I'm pointing at... You can see the diameter of the mother freaking bush that he's... Oh, God. I hate it. I hate it so much. Oh, I did a double danger to do a shake that didn't work. The plate feels great. To get a ball that...