Dude, I was on! So close! We do it live! This is the first time Jeff's ever been censored. Fresh, fresh, fresh, fresh, fresh. Censored. Fresh. So fresh. Welcome, everyone, to season five, episode eight of the censored version of the Fresh Pinball Podcast. Sitting around this fully rectangular table, the four of us will regale you with some pinball stories from our recent journeys and times and happenings and things. So to my right on the board, fully censoring me, this episode is Mr. Kyle. How we doing, buddy? I'm doing great. Happy birthday, Jeff. Thank you very much. It is Jeff's birthday. Yeah, happy birthday, Jeff. You're 42 today? 43. 43. Oh, God, you're old. But here's the thing. I owe you another spanking. Is all of like last year, I thought I was 43. So it's like this is like a free year, basically. Freebie. Freebie. Madpinball.com if you want to order something cheap because Jeff doesn't know math. Not great. You might get some percentages off. And across from me, Mr. Zach Angeli, who rode with me today to record this podcast. I did. You know, carpooling. We got you here safely. Jack Pass has passed my house pretty much. Driving Miss Daisy. Parking the parking ride. It was really weird when I pulled up to his house and he got in the back seat. I'm like, I think he can sit up front with me. I was riding El Presidente, though. He was really. He was upset about it. He didn't have any mints in the back, any bottles of water. I'm a little water back here. There's a real problem with us. Shut the curtains on you quick. No talking. And to my left, Mr. Corbin Angeli. How we doing? What's up, guys? Doing good. Doing good. How you doing, boss man? Just moving some games around. So I've been hearing rumors of people calling you about the podcast. I did. It wasn't specifically, but yeah, I mean, kind of specifically. I did have someone call me today. Let me pull up his name, because I don't want to say it wrong. I'll try to say it right. No, just it was, you know, it was really nice. This call from a guy today, it was after some other nonsense was going on, so it was like, it was cool to hear some positivity. His name was, oh man, K-W-A-Y-A, Kewa, Kewa, Kewa, he told me how to say it, now I'm trying not to butcher it. You're fumbling this really hard. I am. When you guys touch it, step in, K-W-A-Y-A. I'm not, no guarantees here. Reading. Kewa? Kewa, Bailey, Jeff. You may have read John hawkinsets film, and have Just the same conversations we're already having and it's like let's just share our unprompted opinions of the world. That's definitely what I hear the most from people anytime they're like, oh listen to it for the first time or I've been listening for a while. It's always like it just sounds like some bros sitting around talking about pinball and whatever else and that's really what it's all about. A lot of times whatever else but... Yeah, anytime I listen back, you know, before I post it or I'm doing a little bit of cleaning up of the audio or balancing any levels or whatever, I'm always like, man, like as we're recording it, I'm thinking, this is horrible. What? Who would want to listen to this? And then I'm listening back, I'm like, it's not bad. I would listen to that. Yeah. But first fact check item, this one was many times on the last episode, we kept shouting out Jason, Kratzar, Deja, Chris and Chris, we kept referring to Chris as well. The Wife Yes, yes, we need to get this. Yes. So now for everyone's Abby, right? Abby. Correct. It's Chris's wife is Abby. Thank you, Abby, very much for your help at Pinball at the Beach. It wouldn't have been very pinball-y without you. You were just as helpful as everyone else. We just have bad memories. If not more than some. We just have terrible short-term memories. Yes. We do. We do. In long term, it turns out. Any term, essentially. So, Corbin and I were riding around on Friday doing a long distance delivery and the very first subject that he wanted to bring up with me was the fact that I needed to be fact checked on this podcast because he... It wasn't the first at 6 AM. It was the first thing at 6.01 AM that I claimed on the last episode that Deadpool... After the first sheet stock of the day. Mark Dick Hamill, The Deadpool Premium was a forever game for me in that it wasn't going anywhere. And I'm like, no, I didn't say it like that. And then I listened back and I definitely said it like that. So the moral of the story is literally the day we recorded... I have a screenshot if you want to read the transcript. The day we recorded the podcast, I said this game's not going anywhere. And then two days later, I sold it. So it's in a happy new home in New Jersey. And... We were all very shocked when it... I just want to point out that before I was like super deep into the mad pinball stuff like I would have a game for like a couple weeks and then sell it and buy something different so the fact that it was Sunday and I'm like you know I don't play this game as much as I thought I would whenever I got it uh we've never I've never bought or sold a game to between us two we've threatened many times no we own games together but we've never actually pulled the trigger no but very early on before it was all this Chris I only get to choose one. I only get to choose one? Yeah. So do you have, let's do Alice in Wonderland, because we're coming up on Pinbrew. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's exciting times, bringing lots of stuff, like 50 games or whatever the crazy number is. I know that you paid for this game. In November. November time. Yeah. It is now March time. According to the calendar. According to the calendar. Do you keep like a- Lunar cycle. Like a- Based on lunar cycle, yeah. I'll just like, I'll just like, I'll just like, I'll just like, I'll just like, I'll Magnum Parkinson, David David Van Es, cheating search gap, Car Perfect, Shadow of Thunder's spearhead, Momo Sama deploying the Chandler's The message seemed like yes. But maybe in the wording, maybe it's not. But I think... Do you feel solid? I like to think so. I like to maintain positivity, so I'm going to say yes. I feel solid about it. Let's see... You don't have to read it. No, no, I want to read it right to make sure. I don't want to misquote anybody. That's important. Accuracy, journalistic integrity is something that we strive to... Of course, one game on Pinball. Good morning, yada yada yada. Do you think I'll have Alice by Pinbrew? It's scheduled for April 10th through 12th this year and I'm sure people will enjoy playing it there, thanks. Yes, yes, you will have it by then. Okay, that's confirmed. I'll check on the voltage for the DVA sent on my iPhone. I'm taking that as it'll be there. People of the podcast, you can count on the fact that Cointaker will ensure that we have Alice in Wonderland at Pinbrew. Thank you, Melissa. Thank you, Melissa. Appreciate all that you do. I'm glad that you do. Yeah, for sure. No, absolutely. I appreciate it. And I hope it'd be sick if she got here. I don't know if it's gonna have the topper though, because I've been reading a lot of terrorist threads lately and not a lot, but the same amount of normal. And it seems like the current batch that are going out don't have toppers again. Oh, no. Terror, sons of bitches. Yeah. So we'll see. I mean, I'm hoping I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful. Maybe she's waiting to ship mine for the extra special number 500 of 500. The very last one. Sorry to think maybe. I'm seeing the other numbers out there in there. They're in the 300s. Maybe, I don't know, we already know who has 420. We do. Do you want to talk a little bit? I think that's a good segue. This is a good segue? This is a good segue in talking about Ron. Okay. So, height of winter, we needed to locate a Guns N' Roses collector's edition. It was right before the grand opening of the Church Arcade. So I'm looking around, you know, Facebook groups, Pinside, all of the fun stuff, and I find one in Texas and one in Florida. And I'm negotiating on, you know, both of them trying to find the best deal, factoring shipping, the capability of that person to be able to, you know, am I going to have to send an STI to hand carry this out? Can they break it down, put it on a pallet? Send a WRX. It could be, but it's not. Oh, okay. All of those things. All of those things. Wrex and Doobie, out of the house carry service. Oh, okay. Yeah, obviously. I mean, come on, get it together. And as I'm negotiating both of these, then all of a sudden on Facebook, in western Pennsylvania, near Pittsburgh, a Guns N' Roses CE pops up. Semi near Pittsburgh. Yeah, you know, within 45 minutes. An hour. Over in the river, over the river, through the woods, up the snow, all of that stuff. And start negotiating on that one because it's like, oh man, that's semi-local, you know, So, you know, a couple hours away, all that. Come to an understanding and don't really make the connection of where the game is, who has the game, all of that until we're heading out there and then realize this is a place where other folks within our circle, 216 Pinball, Rock Fowler... Some might even say like a bit of a legendary type of a visiting spot. I would say so. Had went on and on and on about it because it was awesome and there was a big bang bar there and this, that and the other. So we get out there with the drop off of games at the church arcade and then we make our way out there. I think we probably, did we tell the story of the locking in? No, no, because last time at the end of the last one I thought we said we were like, do we have time for this? We're saving it, yeah. Okay. So we, because we had the 30 whatever foot trailer with us too and so we left that in a big parking lot before we went out into the woods because the guy said he's like, what did he, Warren Junson, do you have? Make sure you have four wheel drives. Oh, God, another four-wheel drive situation? Mmm, dude, this one was straight through the woods. Like, this was like snowy shit. Like, one little area, I think, took us four or five times to get up. Like... Oh, no. Because that truck, that, in all reality, that black truck does not have the greatest tires on it right now. Like, I mean... Highway tires. They're highway tires, yeah. They're not like the other truck that has the... Plow tires. Plow tires on it. And so, it's like, we got up over it, and we got back in and everything. And it was, it was like... You get off the interstate, onto a state route, onto like a smaller state route, onto a township road, into an un... like there's literally a sign that says the borough or whoever does not maintain like this road you're about to go down. So we go over the river, through the woods, through the snow. Turn into somebody's yard basically. The grandmother's house. We literally back up, guy comes out. As we're backing up though, there's all kinds of like old like art, like amusement park signs, Burger King signs, you know, like not burger, but like different fast food All kinds of old memorabilia. And there's multiple pavilions. There's like, he's like back up under the pavilion with the S on top of it or whatever. Correct. It was a snooker sign or something. I mean it was exactly what you'd envision of someone who just collected all of this stuff. All kinds of cool stuff. So he comes out, you know, German Shepherd in tow, nicest guy ever, introduces himself, invites us in, and I'm expecting a full like, we'll check out the game, break it down, and we're out of here. Oh no no no no. No, no, no, no. It was a good hour before we even got to the game. Yeah. Like, he's giving us like the full tour of everything. Exactly. And there's no cell phone service there, so it was beautiful. Which I didn't realize that until after we left. So we leave and we get 20 minutes away from this guy's place and all of a sudden my phone's like zzz, zzz, zzz, zzz, zzz, zzz, zzz. He called it the Silver Ball Country Club, right? That's what the name for the property was. And I mean, there was probably 50, 60 games we saw there easily. Easily. Easily. And not just games, like Big Bang Bar that he had bought new. Yep. You know, and each game... Bad Cats. Bad Cats. Each game had, they're dialed in CE, which we had never seen. Yep. He had the George Gomez helicopter game. Hawk Avenger. And everything, so a couple random tidbits, every LE or every numbered game that he had, The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Tim Kitzrow, Barry Oursler. And then once you did, painful, nail-breaking climax, one- зм ouv window cover, hip hopestrand, This is from the Rob Frost, voilà bla bla bla bla SCREAM And then up on the second floor he had two Bride of Pinbots, a regular and a Dutch 2.0. Yeah, and then he had the 2.0 kit, yep. And then he had multiple like framed, you know... How many Pinbots do you have, Corbin? Yeah, come on, Corbin. Bride of Pinbots. What are we even doing here? Zero. I know. But it was just, it wasn't just the games, it wasn't just the level of games, it was just... I can still burn. The history and everything else involved with it, because like he had with the Bride of Pinbots, The Like some illustrations and just all kinds of things that just even if you didn't flip a single game while you were there There was enough to see and take in that was whatever game to he was all about like turn on play it turn on play I mean we played Big Bang Bar Which I mean it's one of the first times I've ever played Big Bang Bar and not had like I played Proust's I guess at Cleveland when there was no one else around but other than that like Played it and actually able to hear it and like actual Yeah, yeah, it was cool Super nice guy though The parents who has a kid in his home give us a现在还给 Lewis身份语如果你没有生长市场的金融正在连线永远不碍闭 I'm a little bit crazy in a black rose that I'm thinking about I'm thinking if we can all one for 36 that's he wanted 35 for his yeah it was probably it was all like incandescent still but it was like super clean yeah just on molested no would you call it we thought about like he's coming to pin another fucking I saw a black Congo cabinet came up for sale the other day. Was that the expert only? It was just they just had a random small batch of them. So we're there for several hours playing games, hanging out, talking, doing all that stuff and then... Probably not doing what you're actually supposed to be doing. Finally load the game. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be doing. It's about time to go and he's like, hey, come over here and check out this virtual pin. And it was the craziest virtual pinball machine I've ever experienced in my life. I think it was the top of the line, I think the best of the best, most money you can throw at a virtual pin, that's going to be the one you'd get. Right. And I still didn't want it. Yeah, it still had, there was still flipper lag. That was the thing. It had coils that felt like you were kicking it, it had a crazy catalog. I mean, all kinds of games that did and didn't exist, like everything. Right. So get the game loaded up, it's time to go, you know, little snowy adventure, getting back out of there. We'll stop for a minute. We got out, yeah. We finally got out of there. Realized that, I realized at that point that I had not had phone service for the entire time that we were there and got reconnected to the world unthankfully and... Survived. It was itching. The way we went, then we went back to the strip mall and found the trailer. The trailer where we left it and loaded a single game in it and drove back. That was one of those ones where it's like, you know, some days... I'm glad to hear you didn't have the trailer. It would have been impossible. I'm not sure if you've ever seen that movie. I've never seen it. It's impossible. No, you would not have gotten that trailer up there. And then once, if you did, you wouldn't have turned it around. You'd have to pack that bitch out of the woods or something. Yeah. Uh-uh. Nah. Wild times. We would have left it on the street before I tried to drive it in through there. We definitely need to arrange pinbrew time or maybe some other time to get Kyle and Zach out there because I know that they wouldn't be out as much as we do. Sounds awesome. He has a pre-Allentown party he said every year that we could come to. It probably convinced him to do something pre-Pinbrew. He asked us like three or four times if we wanted to stay. He did while we were there. He had an extra room in that place and everything. Crazy, crazy, crazy. You know how to fix all this shit. It was interesting. He's another one who didn't really seem to have... He said he had a tech that would come and fix stuff for him. Yep. It's always crazy to me when people have that many games and they've never like even just... Maybe he has tried and he decided, nah, not for me. I mean, so there were some of these guys in these car collections. That's true. That's true. Yeah. So in the shout out section here, I did want to raise a glass and thank the cooks, Jared and Lindsey hosted our last little group pinball tournament. We went out to their place and It was a good time It was a great time Keith was the big winner of that night wasn he Keith took home the gold That goofy fucker That goofy fucker But they had us out and what a setup Jared and Lindsey have out here The way they have the house set up with the pinball and then they have like the bar and the garage. I've been sleeping out there a lot. Just hanging out. I mean, I figured it was... They don't notice I'm there, but... Yeah. Hand you a coffee in the morning. Away you go. The way you go. Orange juice. But no, that was a good time. So in their upper area, they had two games. They had a Sorcerer and a Meteor. And then downstairs was a really eclectic row. Very nice. I liked it. I was happy. So what are we looking left or right? TNA. Alien. Alien. The original, right? Yep. No, no, that was the remake. Original TNA. Ripley Alien. Ripley Alien. Yeah. Ripley Alien. The Evil Dead Evil Dead Congo Congo Bond Mm-hmm Uh, what was it? Shadow Shadow, yeah, that's it I think that's it, were you forgetting one? I feel like there was one more And he had that cool, that cool clock Might have one more Yeah With that, it had the clock and it would play all the animations out We'll talk about it, because it was like the DMD style clock Yeah, it was probably what, what size was it? It was, it was pretty good It was almost like the size of, like, a class Like half of a translator Yeah I'd say half of it translate. Yeah. Like a little bit bigger than like the like Chicago Gaming oversized displays they put in. Yeah. But it had the time and then it would flash up like random like animations from DMD games and stuff. He said the stats of how many that there were and it was like a staggering amount. A lot. It makes a lot. Pulp Fiction was the one I couldn't think of. Yeah. Oh yeah. Paul. God damn it was nice. Yeah. That's a great lineup. It's a lot of games that you're not going to just go out to quarter up or downhanger A quick story on Yep's So that means since Keith was the winner that the next one will be moved on to Keith's place. I think he said he was planning on it, yeah. Cool. We'll have to get a date in the calendar that way, with that locked in. Yeah, because we're about a month out, so we've been on about an every other month schedule. Yeah, if we could get something scheduled up in April, I think that would be... Yeah, we don't have anything going on. Yeah, right. Nothing going on. Nothing to do. Nothing going on at all. What do we got here? So, on a personal note, completely not pinball whatsoever. You're going to have another kid. I was going to say it's flaring up again, huh? Locker rooms. Locker rooms? Okay. So I've been on a big kick of going to the Y and swimming. And hanging out in the locker room? No, I'm not. So a bunch of old white dudes walking around naked or what? There's a TV in there. People are watching like the Guardians game and nobody's wearing any clothes. They're all just hanging out. So whenever it's just me, whatever, like I'm in, I'm out, I'm, you know, my own business. Creepy Spirits makeup artistmachine, In Intelligent einige, Tim Tim Kitzrow, Locker Room Life Come and hire Bob Betor http://bit.ly//12 tengaopknet.com spotifyor没 дня Facebook soon Hamilton Jizz The dudes avoiding their wives. The dudes avoiding their wives. I was about to say, the dudes avoiding their wives. And then several rows of lockers on each side with like an aisle going down there. Either their wives are waiting outside or their wives are at home waiting for them and they're like, I'm gonna watch a game in here. So then, you know, There's some beers in the lockers. You go out the back of it, Still the gym, babe. Oh my god. Just getting swole. Getting swole on. No, they're not, because they're all ridiculously out of shape and like, no one that I want to see in the box. So what is this address? PSA! P.S.A. If you're listening to this podcast right now, just be you. Wrap a towel around your freaking hips, dude, because not everyone wants your junk just out there flapping around. What's really funny, though, is that like this isn't videoed and nobody knows that we don't have pants on. No, that's fine. It's the forum. I didn't realize it. Is this when we can talk about circumcision, Kyle? No, we'll leave that out. I had a random question for you guys. So I was at the mall the other day with Anna, obviously, because I don't go to the mall. Is there a locker room at the mall? No, no, no. Changing room? These Girl Scouts are there hustling these fucking cookies. Oh. So, let me just ask you guys, what's your top Girl Scout cookie? Thin Mint. Um, what's the one with chocolate and peanut butter in them? Tagalong? No. No, that doesn't sound right. Toasty Toast. It's a red box. Okay. I can tell you that. We're talking about those or then man. I mean, you can't tag along. I think tag alongs are tag along. That might be this for a bread one. Yeah, okay. This girl pushed these. This little girl scout was a pusher. She was pushing these fucking new ones on me and I was like, I don't know how good are they? And she was like, they are literally the best house. All right, well, I'll take a box. I took a box. I got home and I was like, I opened this up and they were these new like chocolate brownie bullshit, whatever. There's like nine cookies in the package for $14. Right, right, right. I don't think it's right for our patties, but that's not their name. Yeah, peanut butter patties. Let me see. Yeah. Yeah, I agree so there's tagalongs are like the hole in the center or some shit So it's funny that you bring this up because that's the new that's the new one Because I had seen something recently that was adventure fools I'm a fan of the VinBall's. Oh, Venture never heard of that. That's the new one. And I'll just say, I ate one of them and I'm like, that bitch. You know he shows tag alongs in here, man. So I'd seen this picture the other day of how to, if you don't want to buy Girl Scout cookies. Get the fuck out of my face. The proper Girl Scout cookie saying no etiquette. Can't, does it know, does it know? They tried to get me on the way by and I was like, hey, I'm catching you on the way back. Then I got there and I'm like, I have cash. And you're like, what? We have Venmo. I'm like, cash? Oh, cash? Cookie Booth Etiquette 101 1. Be kind. These girls are running a small business and are not spokespeople for controversy. They're cookie hustlers. Smile and encourage them. Fucking capitalism. Is this put out by the Girl Scouts of America? This literally is. Yeah, so just... It's propaganda. I didn't know I was going to get started on this. I like cookies. Skip the diet talk. Don't make comments about calories, sugar, carbs, or body size. Girls are listening. Did you body shame them? I didn't say nothing about how she looked. Respect their effort. Each booth supports local Girl Scouts and helps them build real life skills. My mom was mean mugging me too. I was like, bitch, I'm buying cookies. Save big questions for National Girl Scout. Reach out to Girl Scouts in the USA directly. No pressure, no problem. Don't want cookies? No problem. You can still donate or just say, no thank you. It felt like some high pressure sales. Text Teams I heard Wendy's has one now too. I did see the Frosties. Oh boy, somebody just died. I think the speaker came down maybe? No. I'd seen there was big controversy out in Wayne County. This one coffee shop was super mad because the Girl Scouts weren't going to come to their coffee shop anymore to sell cookies. It must have been a dead spot. I don't know. Did it bring business to them? No thank you. I also tried the gluten-free ones for the first time. Sounds gross. Oh, they were good. Oh, okay. They were actually good. I had no problem saying they were good. Weren't they though? Gluten-free cookies? Yes. Weren't they good? They were. I don't have any more. I got rid of them. I'm pro Girl Scout cookie, but you're not getting much bang for your buck there. I'm not even sure what the price is. I got five boxes and it was 30 bucks. I'm like, this seems like... But if it's nine cookies per box. Only in the new ones. The old ones were like 12. I feel like Thin Mints are really stacked in there. The follow-up question. Okay. I have something I have to say. Yes. Yes, Kyle. I do believe either like Mark's or maybe possibly Aldi. They have a cookie there. Aldi. It's Aldi. Jody always talks about it. I think it might be Mark's. Jody always gets it from Aldi. It's the thick. It's thick mints, bitch. Yeah. It's thick mints. It's not thin mints. It's a thick mints. They're good. They taste just like the same exact thing. But thicker? All right, I'm sold. I'll have a good 10 mint, so. My question still applies even to the thick mint. Do you keep it in like room temperature or does it go in the freezer? Or is it refrigerated? I hide them. I hide them in like a dish cupboard. Corbin takes one bite every night for 300. For sure. Oh, I mean, yeah, I do definitely eat single bites out of them. Okay, so room temperature. I also eat like half a Pop-Tart and put it back in the box all the time. Yeah, I know. But no, I put room temperature in the cupboard. We feel for you. I encourage sometimes if you have some thin mints, throw one in a little, you know, ziplock bag or whatever, and throw it in the freezer and then try it. MB puts them all in the freezer. MB knows what's up. But I don't care, I'll do them either way, so I don't care. This time of year, it's not the summer, if it was summer out and it was sticky out, sure, then you won't worry about it, but it's fine now. It changes the texture. It makes it better probably. I think it enhances the mint flavor. It's not a huge amount. In my movie theater days, we kept milk duds and junior mints in the refrigerator and people went bananas for them and said that the junior mints were so much better because they were in the refrigerator. Is that what you're doing? At your management? I could tell you stories. Come on, tell me some stories. Do you guys remember the movies for? Of course I remember movies. So, Cinemark ran these little discount theaters where it was like... You look like Robert fucking McGurk. McGurk, that's right. You do Robert McGurk? Oh, dude, I could tell you. I've got stories. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Anyway. How did I know this yet? I can't believe you didn't know this. I feel like I should have worked on movies for you. We worked on movies for you. Off topic. Way off topic. Did you deliver pizzas too? Let me put a bow on this. He rode in the fox body. Did you ride in the fox body? Let me put a bow on this. We'll get back to pinball. Like dollar movies, you know, discount theaters really don't exist anymore but were a thing back in the day. I was so cutthroat in the summertime, I would turn off the air conditioning inside the auditoriums that way people would come out and buy. Aaaaahhh! Fucking brutal. Like the only fucking reason they're there. Right? They're like, it's gonna be cool in the movies, let's just go to a movie today. It's gonna be so hot out! Like, fuck it's hot in here, let's go get a coke. That's it. Bowtie on that. We can talk about Jeff's Theatre Days though. We can maybe make a new segment, I've got all the camera stories. We should just split our podcast. Oh my God, so many opportunities. Hmm. Moving on. Moving on... Oh, we forgot to introduce Honey Girl. We've introduced her before. People know about her. Yeah, people know. Tank the Dog and Honey Girl are like on the marquee. She's just much more polite than Tank the Dog. Yeah. I would like to introduce everyone's favorite segment, Trailer Talk with Corbin. Let's do it! Corbin, there have been some developments in the trailer department. So whoever remembers the old trailer, it died in West Virginia. I think we announced that. All right, everyone knew that it got left in West Virginia. It's wild and wonderful. I imagine it's down there doing its thing still. I think it's a shed now. I'd like to think it's probably a shed. Somebody's mother-in-law lives in it. Mother-in-law, yeah. The mother-in-law suite for sure. Dude, that was a real nice tow company. It was a several-floor building. It was very nice. Yeah, I will use them again when I am ever in that area and need towing services. I'm not saying if, it's when. So we ended up getting a... I guess I should just jump into it. We got a new trailer. Forest River. What? What? What? What? Yeah, we got a Forest River. It was the brand. It's like a US cargo like spinoff or whatever. Let's get some specs on it. Dual axle. Obviously. 14 feet long. Because you can only hold like two pinballs with a single axle. Yeah, right. That's what I've heard. Yeah, so 14 feet long, seven foot interior height, which is primo. It's like I'm telling you, working in this thing is like you got room for days. and I've got plans. I've got some other things I need to add to it still. But we're setting it up nice. We're setting it up nice. It's a nice trailer. I plan on... It's got the extended tongue on it for the extra weight or whatever. I don't know... Levelers in the back. We need those trailer brakes. Trailer brakes, which is cool. Three-corner-inch plywood. Everything about it seemed... Pardon me. Seemed meaty. Yeah, yeah. The... Oh, angle brakes is in the corners of the door. The exterior steel is actually a thicker grade than... It's seamless. No, no, it's screwless or whatever. Yeah, I don't remember the exact numbers. Mine has like all the rivets holding everything together. Yeah, no rivets on this thing. Just super glue. It's like a Tesla. Yeah, exactly. Very, very smooth. I did have someone tell me they did. It's actually more fuel efficient because it takes nothing. I don't know about that. It's heavy. It was not fuel efficient, I can attest, because when we ran down to Cincinnati and back, it was too fuel... it was a nice it's a really nice trailer working in it has been nice I can't wait to finish setting it up and keep using it it's nice to have them yeah that's the update that's the big trailer talk update well deserved yeah we're gonna use the shit out of it yeah but on our way to Cincinnati there were two different trailers southbound that were one was missing a full axle yeah The That one didn't look good. And then there was another one that looked like it was gonna like meet the same fate as Corbin's trailer where it was just gonna be abandoned like they'd ground off the serial number. We stopped and looked and saw what we could get but... After I saw the second one I thought like I proposed we could just Frankenstein them together and make one good trailer out of the two. So yeah, no, that's the Trailer Kataka update. We haven't named it yet either. The trailer? Yeah, not yet. I think, would you accept a sponsor? Like if someone wanted to sponsor it? I know your feelings on not wanting to put anything Mad Pinball or Angelique Starke novelty on the side of it because... They could name it. I mean, I guess it depends on what they're offering for the naming rights. I mean, yeah. You put it out there. You're open to proposals? Yeah, yeah. If you want the naming rights of the trailer, let me know what you're thinking. It's gonna be worth you. Okay. Make it worth Corbin's while. You have to pay like three years of registration on it though. I'm not going to do a demonstration on it though. No, no, I'm pizza beer guys. Yeah, that's pretty easy. Who should they email, Zach? Freshpinball at gmail.com. Thank you, Zach. All right. Do we want to talk a little pin brew? I feel like we've gotten deep. Yeah. Deeper than even I intended. The pin brew? So the pin brew people asked, do you guys want to be involved? And I immediately without even consulting Corbin. And it's just the mics. It's the mics. It's not just the pin brew people. It's the mics. So we have to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Obviously, I said, yes, we will be involved. And then later on, I went to Corbin like, hey, is it cool if we are involved with this? And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that'll be cool. And, you know, we kind of immediately said, hey, you know, 25, 30 games seems like a reasonable amount. This is an absurd statement to make to begin with, I think. It is. And now we're probably in the 40 to 50 range. It's gonna be 50 by the time we're done, I think. So according to what I'm seeing of the game list, we're looking at 100 plus total games and Mad Pinball slash Angelique Starke Novelty will be bringing approximately half of those games. Is that for real? Isn't that nuts? I don't know how I feel about that. I have feelings. Yeah. It's going to be some cool stuff. Some of the highlights? Let's say some of the highlights. My top highlight, I would say the thing I'm most excited for is going to be four Beetlejuices. Maybe five. Honey Factory. Honey Factory, of course. The Beatlejuice is going to be sick. It's going to be so cool. I'm very excited about that. We're going to have Pokemon there. A lot of Pokemon. Four Pokemans. Probably two pros, two premiums. What we're trying to do is set this up to not be one of those shows where you go to and there's one of something and everyone is standing in line for the same thing. Yeah, we're trying to spread out that craziness. We are representing apparently I think every manufacturer and every man there. I mean you figure American... That is in business, isn't in business, you know, we're going to be representing them all. Capcom, you know, whatever we're going to have them all in. In some sort of state of flux, you know, maybe they're in, maybe they're out, who knows. Yeah, American we should have Barry O's BBQ Challenge. GTF I think, right? It seems like there's a good shot at GTF being there. Yeah, I mean, Zach updated it, it's playing fine in his house. Oh yeah. It is a 10, so... Ollie will be mad. He can come back. It's his favorite pinball. He can come back. All this game. Dude, Sidebar and Oli, the other day I was cleaning the gutters out on the roof of the Lake Heights on Saturday. And I left the ladder leaning against the building. And this is a good ten feet up. And I look over here. And Corbin and I look over. And Oli on his own just climbed up the ladder onto the roof. And I'm like, cool dude, what's up? But he wouldn't get on top of the jack. The dad was jacking up all the way because it was too high. Anyway, so yeah, we're representing the team. Anyway, so yeah, we're representing everyone that's going to be there. Yeah, I mean, Spooky, we're bringing a lot of Spooky games, of course. We can take my GTF if you want to. Zach has the tank in his house, do you want the tank and the non-tank? I mean, if it's not playing good, then... No, I mean, it plays fine. Just saying. So, yeah, we're going to end up taking a lot of games. It's going to be a cool time, though, I think. I'm not sure how many different beer companies they're going to have, I have not... And it feels like a continuing conversation. Yeah but all I know is that our end of it the pinballs we bringing which is going to be an obscene amount Strong Stern contingency a lot of spooky American barrels of fun Probably some Harry Potters. Oh, definitely JGP. We're going to have some of the back catalog there of some of their games as well. Everyone's going to be well represented and then just kind of the oddities that we're going to have. You know what we're not... No oddities. You know which game that I wish we would have, but I don't know if it's going to happen? I'm not going to say Alice in Wonderland because... No, Alice is happening. I'm putting the vibes out there. Winchester. You made a good push. I have a thought on future Barrels of Fun games. You want to hear this? And if he offers it now, I'm just going to be like, I don't want that shit. What's your future thought? I think that we should put a standing order in with them of X number of units of whatever is coming out. Even if it's a small number, and then, hey, we, even if... No, I'm not fucking around with three. Eight. Three? Eight? Let's just call it eight. Eight? A standing order... Chuck is that Dungeon Crawl Carl? I'm like, three. Whatever it is, and then say, hey, I, we have the standing order, no matter what it is, we want this, but they need, that batch needs to be towards the beginning. Or at least a portion of the batch. Right. And then, as we take orders, and as people order more games, then we can add on to the end of it. I mean, if that's what it takes to get, because this whole current situation, I'm sure anyone who's listened already knows how I feel about this, but Winchester House at the end of the summer, like, come on, just get us one, maybe two or three or eight, I don't know, but... But that's how I think we should handle it, is just put in a standing order of this number and as soon as you announce a game... I mean, but have they? I mean, Labyrinth we sold a nice chunk of, Dune we sold a nice chunk of, Winchester we sold a nice chunk of. I mean, is there anything that, even if the number, even if the number's five, a standing order of five and say, hey, like, we want these early on. I think that's the, I think that's the move. It's not a bad idea. I guess we could do it. But to Zach's point, let's talk a little dungeon crawler, Karl. That is like the hot rumor right now. It's a big thing right now. All the kids are listening to it. You guys, are you aware of this property Kyle? Absolutely not. I also am not. So Kyle and I are equally in the dark. So Corbin and Zach. Pokemon? Are we talking about Pokemon? I'm aware of Pokemon. I don't know anything about Pokemon. Uh, how crazy do you want to talk about it? I mean. So to my understanding there are seven and then. Eight about to come out. Okay. Out of 10 books. Um, it's about aliens taking over the world and turns into a answer I'm just doing my good deed as a cult member to spread to others. I can see it growing up to, I don't know if I would say Harry Potter levels, but it's headed that direction. It's headed that direction. They have a TV show already coming out for it. I heard about it. What's his name? The family guy, Seth MacFarlane. Seth MacFarlane's doing the show. It's got a following. It's great. A video game, posted a video game coming out for it and something else. Pinball and the... The Like Trading cards and shit. I think the question to this license for me or this IP is What demographic or demographics does it appeal to and is that audience also a pinball audience? It's an adult It's an adult like gamer kind of I think it's in the same like I don't say like Dean I mean, maybe like the D&D not like Harry Potter, but like similar to like Ready Player One Maybe like that kind of a demographic was kind of where I would think it lands It's definitely not, I wouldn't say, I mean there's like, it's not gory all the time. No, no, no. But there's still like, scenes where people get ripped apart or something. Yeah. Because the question in pinball is always, you know, if this appeals to 25 to 35 year olds, that's really not many people in that age range who can afford to buy a pinball. I think it goes a little bit. But like, everybody that like, like so like, my one sister got us hooked and we've like, The only thing that we've passed on to since is Inslee is hooked on to it. No, I think that... Because we finally got Anna on it. Okay. And Anna, now all her friends are reading them now too. And Mary Beth, both my sisters, everybody, there's... It's just interesting as soon as that rumor got out there that possibly this was getting made, it blew up quickly, which led me to believe like there is a huge built-in audience for this. There is. That's why I wanted to talk to you and Corbin about it a little bit to see if you guys thought how well it would translate into that realm. I think someone could make a cool pinball of it for sure. I'm excited to see what barrels can do with it. Yeah. Yeah. If it does turn out to in fact be them and it's coming, I'm always interested to see what sort of magic they can work. I don't know. 500 games at what? 13 grand. I don't know. They'll go quick, that's for sure. Well, they know. Because he'll do Kickstarters for his books and like within two hours you're on like 1.2 million. Right. Crazy shit like that. Okay. Yeah. I'm unfamiliar so. No. I'm intrigued by the whole thing. I'm interested in listening, reading the books or being more aware of. I recommend them. Read them or Audible. Definitely sounds like it would be right in my wheelhouse of things that are interesting. www.flipnout.com Transcript presented by Transcription Outsourcing, Inc. On the bottom of the description, there's a link that goes directly to Piper's Journey, which is what the Flip for the Cure is for. Yeah. Check that out. We are proud to be a part of that, to support that community, to support Jason and his family. And I think, if last year was any indication, I think in a bigger space with even more machines and everything else, this could be a really good time. Yeah, you need to call Jason. Let's see here. I will save that for another time. We talked some trailer talk. All right. I want to go around the table here. You guys may or may not be aware of this social media guy. He's a home inspector and he does like these little short form videos, sometimes 30 seconds, sometimes two minutes. I don't like that. Don't do that. Or don't do that. Don't do that. I'm sure Kyle you probably had seen some of these but he'll show you know your soft it's whatever don't do that what would be something Kyle in pinball when you're working on a game or you bring a game in for the first time and you see it you're like mmm don't do that cut the ground off the plug and start with one for you no I got one yeah it goes off with also wiring like Gator clipping in accessories shitty why here we go So Corbin, talk about why you should not clip the ground off of a pinball machine. Don't take your elastic bands out of your underwear and use that. Well, to your point, I want to talk about that one, but talk about the ground, Corbin, why that's important to not do that. To someone who may not be initiated, why is the ground important in pinball? It's called electricity. It's called electricity and it's bad. Don't cut that shit off. Just because your outlet isn't grounded, All of these are pinball games, and I think more so when I've seen it, it's been people who are plugging their pinball machine into an extension cord that is not grounded. Yeah, and it's some kind of shitty dollar store extension cord. You're not giving your game enough power. You are asking for trouble. Okay, so don't do that. It's not grounded. You're going to fuck it up. Just don't. That's all I'm going to say. Don't cut the ground off. Don't put fucking colored LEDs in your GI. How about not your entire backbox? Pinball don't do that. So I'd seen a video and a product for pinball tournaments and it's for when you open the coin door of your pinball machine there's basically a dead man switch in there that when you open the coin door it turns off the high voltage that way you don't kill yourself. Not kill yourself, don't really shock yourself. It'd just be a nice zippity zap. Right. Still alive. So in a tournament setting that obviously can be a problem. Daddy John S razem sama Wide Dan avater Cowboy What's aazione John, balls drained, no good. So I've... I thought balls drained was good. Different thing totally Kyle. Oh, sorry. So, someone had come up with a solution to where it was like basically a 3D printed block that you put inside all of the games during the tournament. The 90's Williams had the yellow tank things that locked them. It came with it. It came with it. It came with it. But they're not on modern and all of that.ék eran aan I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. It just seems like a dangerous proposition to bypass. Just open it and pull it. You can probably do it quick enough. You just, I don't know. Anytime you're disabling a safety feature, it just seems like a recipe for disaster. It's like on your riding lawnmower, the seat switch. Oh, day one. Those are the seatbelt buzzers. Those clamps have been on there since 2006. So, Corbin says don't cut the ground off your cord. Kyle talked about using the rubbers in weird places and that's what spurred that thought. Zach said he's not a big fan of the mods with all the gator clips. So, I guess we've all thrown in our fora. Pinball, don't do that. But yeah, it's one. Here's another one. Check your batteries. Don't forget to check your batteries. Don't move games with the balls in them. Ooh, that's a good one. Like, if you're breaking it down, breaking it down. Yep. And what's the reason for that? Yeah, Jeff. One time, two times, three times, whatever. Dude, Sandy Springs put a pop shot in down there. No, we're getting there. Why do you want to take the balls out? Oh, because it's not... Oh, they smash it. When you lean it back, they're going to come out and they're going to smash it into all kinds of shit. Fucking blast it up. Get wedged into weird places. On a lot of games, but not all games. Some games, like... JGP has the American. American has the gate. JGP has the gate. Chicago, I believe, has the gate. Some of them. I know Pulp does for sure. Yeah, yeah. And then some of the Data East have it too where they're locked in. They're locked in. Yeah. But just to be safe, it's point balls. Yeah, pull them out. Remove your balls. Remove your balls. Yeah, so let's talk Papa Shot. Let's talk Sandy Springs Brewing Company, the arcade at Sandy Springs Brewing Company. They like going on down there. I saw they've got the skee ball going, they've got the pinball going. Papa shot on something. Really nice spot. Oh. It is, it is. Very chill. He's gonna have Pokemon LE here soon, he's gonna have Beetlejuice soon. Yep. I mean, it's a spot down there. Beer's not bad. So Papa shot. Yeah, the beer is actually not bad. Right, that's why I don't have games there. Yeah. Right. So Papa shot comes in flat packed and then you went down on Monday? Ikea status. It was like an Ikea basketball game. Okay. A week ago today. From time of pallets inside, we're opening this box to... I'm gonna tell 150 the door so I don't have to break it down on the sidewalk, but I would say... Of course. It's, um... Assembly time. From there, one, four, probably about three hours. Three to four hours, I would say, conservatively. So, in comparison to, like, the other ones that you have assembled as new, same amount of time, less time? Less time. The other ones come in, like, mostly assembled. Is that the one that's like just a little bit bigger than a pin like deep? Yeah, yeah, but it's the height of it. It's only like five foot deep though. The depth of it I would say is a little bit longer than a pinball, but the height of it, it's still tall. Oh yeah. The interesting thing with this one is the backboard, like when you're shooting the balls, it also uses like a smaller basketball than like the FXs or whatever use like traditional size. A standard size. Whereas like this is like the, like a little bit like, I'd say maybe like a eight inch, The backbox is a screen, so when you're shooting, the backboard, it's a screen. It does all kinds of crazy displays and animations and you can put advertisements on it, an online portal. It also has a QR scan in, just essentially similar to Stern Insider Connected. So I think it tracks your stuff then. Oh, yeah. And then you can play against other people. Yes. Oh, elsewhere in another bar or something. Yeah. So a lot of these ones seem to be... In another country. And it seems like these ones are being placed singular versus like the traditionally FXs or the skee-ball ones or whatever ones are all two pairs but like... Definitely two. ...take up so much space because people are playing... I think Electric Bat has one out there that's like their highest earner and like... That was my biggest takeaway. That was Adam's motivation for getting it. Of course. I mean, it makes sense. Yep. Because when I'd seen a picture from out there, it was a single one. They go for... $6,600? $66, yeah. $6,600, but then if you want the bill acceptor and the coin chute, it's another like $200. And I will say one of the interesting solutions that I saw... And they're cheap to ship. They're tiny. Yeah, the shipping was very reasonable, but then they were also offering that they had coast to coast... It was like $250 shipping. White glove. White gloves. I saw that. So if you weren't comfortable with assembling it yourself... If you just put an Ikea shit together, you can put this together. Right, but if you're not, I thought... One Allen wrench. I thought that they just took away a barrier of entry of like... 100%. In a home or whatever else? No, even as an operator a little bit though. Yeah. To get it in, to get it set up, like, I see the challenge. Yeah. So, I thought that's a pretty cool thing. So, if you're interested, you can obviously purchase anytime, 24 hours a day at madpinball.com. Oh, so you guys just sell those? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, cool. We sold them to Sandy Springs. What's that? We sold the one to Sandy Springs. Oh, yeah. Cool. That's why I went and set it up for you. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. Questions, info at madpinball.com, Corbin at madpinball.com. Don't forget to subscribe to our channel and hit that bell icon so you don't miss out on any of our latest videos. I was interested to see when this one came in what Corbin's takeaways were of it. I'll be curious to see how it does for him down there and how it... Obviously my initial concern was that you smash those balls into the screen, but they said they tested it, so we'll see. Or just a cheap panel anyway, so... I mean it's got to be something that holds up to the rigor of all of that and then obviously If they're warranting and all of that, they don't want something that they're not. Yeah, it comes with like, I think, a one-year warranty, I believe, is what it was on the whole thing. Exactly. So they, I mean, it's got to be something that's... Yeah, they must have faith in it. Right. That's been holding up for them. But cool piece for sure. It's one of those things where it's... Let us test it. We'll see. New pieces, new amusements for the peoples. Yeah. Those were all of the notes that I had. Ooh, we're gonna have both Turner games at Pinburgh too. I almost forgot about that. So Ninja Eclipse and Merlin's Arcade will both be there. Space Hunt will be there and we might have the Hexa prototype. Three Musketeers. Are they just calling it Musketeers or are they calling it Three Musketeers? So the last thing, because I think I saw you repost it. Can we get a rethemed back glass that was like, has Charlie Sheenan on it? I mean, I'm sure you can get anything made that you want. The Three Musketeers. How do you think they'd feel about us completely retheming their prototype? I mean, they seem to be completely for it. They did the Louis Vuitton one. Mike Mullen, The Car Juan, What's the ETA on Turner? Is Turner going to be there? There's a certain thing Turner will be at TPF. Do you think there's going to be- They might have a new game. There are heavy rumors that they will be showing a new game at TPF. Yeah. One that I believe rumors are will be exciting. Maybe he can come to Pimber with us. I don't know. I know Chris likes you, but I don't know if he's ever going to sell me another game. It's because every time I call, it's a nice conversation. Every time you call, something is broken. I broke his game again. We broke your shit. Sorry. Yeah. I really try not to. I feel bad. All right. Can we talk Three Musketeers just for one second here? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Musketeers. So here's the post from Hexa Pinball. Oh, it does say Three Musketeers. Summon you to a duel. On March 20th, a new challenge awaits the bravest players. Our new pinball machine inspired- We're going to be in Texas by March 20th? No way. Yes, dude. Things are happening. Our new pinball machine, inspired by the Three Musketeers, is about to take center stage. And as in any good swashbuckling tale, it's time to prove your worth. Will you accept the duel? Join us on March 20th at 4pm at the Texas Pinball Festival to face off against the machine, one for all and all for pinball. Wait, TPF is not this weekend but the following weekend? Yes, Corbin. That is accurate. So this weekend, Flip for the Cure. The following weekend. T.P.F. That is correct. And then two weekends after that, Pinbrook. Interesting. Some things are happening. But it looks like almost simultaneously at 6 p.m. in Bordeaux, France, they are also Fucking mad pinball is going to be at T.P.F. for any reason. For no reason. We're supporting our friends at HEXA. We guys do. 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We're going to try and make some ramps for Cactus Jacks since they're not available and we can't really seem to find them. Wade graduation, I think it's going to be super useful though, especially in the pinball space. I think so too. Make all sorts of fun things. So what's the, for the uninitiated, what is, you know, is it a ray gun that we're zapping things with? Yeah, so it's, I mean it fits in your hand nicely and you kind of like, it has a bunch of like laser lights shooting out of it and you kind of go around an object with it. That's super cool. You just made a turntable to put objects on it. I did, I 3D printed it. So I could spin it and try and get a cleaner object. So then there's some sort of interface that then the scanner then can communicate with. It shows you live on the computer, won't it? Yeah, yeah, you look at your computer and it shows you like what scan and what areas need more attention and stuff. Wow. I don't know. I think Keith convinced Matt Pinball to buy it, so here we are. Was this the $20,000 version? No, it was not. And Einstar 2. Okay. That's what we went up to get. It was, so just so everyone knows, it was like a $1,200 scanner. Oh, damn. That's an investment. I mean, just so you guys have an idea of how much, because it was, because there's, there's a range. I'm sure. And I feel like there wasn't, there wasn't a whole lot of information, like there was information, you guys did the research, but like, how much does what get, you know, what does it get you? So I'll be curious to see. So if we were talking... It seemed to be a really good entry level. Yeah. Okay. So is $1,200 entry level? Well, you could like $200, like, but I assume that's a, you know, piece of shit. Yeah. And then like, you know, $50,000, $60,000 scanners. That's amazing. So we went with a little bit lower end. Yeah. Or middle. I feel like it's good for our application. I mean, I feel good too if Keith was involved in some of the recommendation research too, because I know he has some knowledge based on... We also talked to Ben about it as well. Ben, Ben, okay. Yeah. I was actually looking at the one we were talking to Ben about and he recommended the same like... Oh, what about this one? It's like, oh yeah, let's go with that one. Because I feel like with these scanners, it's almost similar to the 3D printer thing where it's like you don't want to buy the one that immediately you're going to grow out of and be like, oh, well, that was a waste of money because I need this next one. Right. That's kind of where we're at with like, we'll spend a little bit to get like a good one. Yeah. I don't know, you don't get too crazy with it. No, for sure, especially when you don't know, you know, right out of the gate how much use you're going to get out of it. Ideally, you're thinking, oh, well, I can use it for X, Y, and Z, but it needs to prove itself before you can really... Yeah, I'm not going to go too wild. Yeah, not too wild. Not too wild. Not a container ship wild. There's some hand signalings going on right now between Kyle and Corbin, so I'm going to go over to Kyle's here and see. Do you have any final thoughts there, Kyle? Oh, uh, thanks for, uh, for you. Words. Hard. Kyle for. Kyle says thanks for bringing games over again. He appreciates it. Yeah, so Mr. Robert Zombie came back in. Thanks for bringing me some broken games. T&A. T&A needs a little love. They need a little love, man. And then you also got Berrios. He has two Americans in the house. He does. I'm excited for what American has coming. I know we can't talk about a lot of the details. We cannot. Uh, so I won't get started, but I'll just say that I'm excited for it. We're excited for it. Yeah, I had a brief conversation. We can talk about anything. I mean, we can allude to, I had a brief conversation. Yeah, we want to break it in the air. Oh my God. On to the next. A brief conversation with the sales director over there, and there are some exciting things coming from American Pinball starting at TPF on to MGC. All of that. We're going through a tunnel. Things are happening. Things are definitely happening at American, so. Get excited for what's coming from there. I think it's a good... That is the takeaway. This is a good turnaround for them. This is the jump he's gonna start... But I don't wanna see anybody too bad. No. Competition is good. The more companies, the better. It's gonna be fun, I think. It's all gonna be fun. We have number six Barry O's. I mean, what else? What other... Who knows what other weird stuff we're gonna... I heard actually that Ron City's shipping his Cuphead this week, so... Oh, please, God. I said it'd be all... My biggest takeaway is that people are getting involved at American Pinball that give me confidence. Yeah. So... People who are passionate and excited about it. Things are coming. Pay attention because I think you want to get on the ground floor of something. Exciting times. They are exciting times. Final thoughts, Corbin? I don't think so. I've been doing the shipping thing now. I've been shipping. I've been now into our... I'm just going to share this with the world. So, I think this is good to talk about that I've never heard on another podcast or distributor anyone really get into the weeds of... ...shipping games. ...what it means. So, previously we were using a service... Well, just a coordinator. ...a company that handled it. And so, it was super convenient. You'd email her and say, hey, we need, you know, Bond Pro to go from Stern Pinball to us in Canton, or we need it to go from here to wherever. And she'd send over a label or whoever would send over a label. Was that pirate ship? No. That's what we're using. Are you a pirate ship? I do. We use a lot of pirate ship. Anyone who ships boxes, like pirate ship's the shit. All our accessories go through pirate ship. 60% off UPS retail. Yeah, easily. Yeah. So I ship pirate ship for all accessories. But what Corbin's using for freight now is like the pirate ship of freight. It is. Yeah. So I guess I'm the freight coordinator for both the games and the accessories. So for the games though, so at the beginning of the year, I had somebody reach out and provide, show me, which we always have people reaching out. They never seem to make any sense for the extra, you'd save like five bucks a shipment or whatever, but the convenience of just emailing and saying, hey, you know, whatever. And so one of the challenges we were running into with the previous provider was there wasn't a whole lot of transparency as far as like we didn't have a whole lot of idea of... There was no transparency. We had no idea what it was going to cost us, so we would just estimate based on previous shipments and whatnot. A lot of times we would end up charging less than what it would be or whatever. More times than not we were charging under. Yes, we were under charging. That's what I mean. We were under charging for what it actually ended up costing because you wouldn't know for like, it would be like three months and you would ship all this shit and then one Friday or something you'd get hit with like the past three months of shipping on the card and it wasn't awesome. sendаю Well, you know, it shows you, it shows you estimated time, it shows you the cost, it shows you how much insurance they're carrying. It's not necessarily like the cheapest quote. Oh, no, no, no. A lot of times, I mean, it's like, oh, no, there's the ones I trust. And so, like, for example, like FedEx, we use FedEx for like, I'd say like 90, 95% of what we ship, we use FedEx. And they're not the cheapest. They're not, but sometimes they're like, it's in the middle to the lower quarter, I'd say sometimes. And part of the thing is, though, off the rip, it's like the new carrier liability for FedEx is like 10 grand. Like they cover up to 10 grand in damages versus like everybody else is like 250, you know, 750. Like it's crazy. So we've switched to shipping using this new, it's through I think the company's like priority one or something, but it's basically the pirate ship of freight. So what I've enjoyed the most about it is whenever we need a label and we need it now, it's now. And you can do it now. Because before it was like, they were pretty quick, but it was like some days it would be like five or six hours and you'd be like, hey, we're missing the window. Because sometimes these companies will email us and it'll be like, you know, eight o'clock, nine o'clock, like, hey, we're shipping this today. And then, but like by one or two, it's too late. Like you need to get that dispatched. And so it has time for the truck to get there for the dock closes and yada, yada, yada. The So it's like just taking control of it the transparency of knowing exactly what it's going to cost Because you can also just run a quote and not even book it and say so somebody says hey What's gonna cost a ship to me? You just say it's gonna be 450, you know, whatever, you know 250, whatever it is So it's it's I don't know. I've been it's been interesting So that's been one of my things for this year that's been interesting as far as I would assume to like if it's continental Continental us like even West Coast like isn't crazy like So, there's certain areas. Yeah, there's definitely a sliding scale. I know, like, for example, Modesto. Like, certain areas in California, like, New York, whatever it takes to get to, like, extra steps of it, it does definitely add something. Some of the real rural areas, like, you know, South Dakota, Idaho, wherever, like, some places like that sometimes add a little bit to it, too. It'll be like, special area delivery charge. So, without getting super deep into the weeds, because I know this isn't probably interesting for everyone, down under pinball pinballemos This is Max, back at douchebag trabaj goodnight and were watching 1996rdformad in town Taylor Ke Squierz 9 channel Grinds 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 5 7 7 5 5 7 7 7 7 7 7 6 6 6 6 7 6 6 6 6 1 1 1 1 2 1 Post Office Cancels Call Proof Karen L котор Jessie DoniInstitute Dale Slaton Richard Dawn Lovelyhew John Vogel, Mr. J Brad Fut terre, Brad Watkins, Leslie Kiesler, Michael Kocczewski, Skype iphone, Facebook, VK, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, Chip N Out The Biggest Key for Me is If the Manufacturers Can Give Me Like, Hey, Tomorrow It's Gonna Be Ready, That's The Easiest, That's The Dream. A Little Bit of Runway. Yeah, but during the day is fine too, we can do it. And I'm like, when I know stuff, like I'm preparing, oh, Pokemon's gonna ship or whatever's gonna ship, like, alright, I'm gonna be on the, ready to go. It's pronounced Poke-man. Piss-man. Poke-man. So, two notes. One on Poke-man. Did you guys listen or see the video with Gomez and Danger talking about the game? I watched nothing about this game. Nope. None of you have seen it? No. I wait for the real game and make my own opinions. I highly encourage you to watch it just for the fact that... I'm pretty sure you're not allowed to watch it on me either. That Jack Sanger must have been saying Pokemon wrong because you can hear that they dubbed in a different pronunciation. What do you think he was saying? Pokeman? I don't know what he was saying. Did you watch a video at half speed, Jeff? It's very, very clear that... No, you watched it like quarter size. I think Jack... Didn't you tell me... I double X videos. Is it too soon to reveal us? But isn't Jack Danger coming on the podcast? Yeah, we definitely want to get him on the podcast the next time that he is out at past times checking out some games and whatever else we definitely want to... Stop buying, let's check out Rotation Aid. Check out Rotation Aid. Check out Carl's dick. Hop on the podcast and do all that. But final note on the shipping side of it. So while most people are aware that Stern dealers in general will ship the games to them for free, it's not because we don't get charged for it. No, no, we still pay for shipping. We still pay for it. We do. So just understand that it's just not passed on. Nothing is free. Yeah, it's not free in the sense of it's getting paid for just not by the customer. We're paying for it still. It's just become the standard now. It has, yeah. It's become the standard of that's what they are. I will say the other thing, so I've had this since we're going down the shipping road. I've been having some thoughts on the JJP pallets because, you know, they're bigger. So Stern's like 31 by 31. JJP is more like... Turns out real convenient size for flooding machine shops. Yeah. Yeah. It's like 37 by 37 is the JJP, so it gives you some extra inches around it. And so I think it... I initially thought like the better base is good, it keeps other stuff from getting close to it. But in recent times, the problem is with the Stern ones, they can pack them in and then they kind of lose. They're locked in there. But with the JJP ones, that extra the pallet space leaves airspace up above where then these games are like, I don't know, they get wobbly. They're getting wobbly and they're coming in like rough. Yeah, rougher than we want. Yeah, rougher than we want. And we're only getting them coming from and this is why less handling is better. They're coming from JJP from their facility to our terminal. Nothing in between. So they're not getting handled off of the truck. It's one journey. I think when we ship them that way too, there's no transfer anything in the middle. I think it goes straight to, especially when we do priority, it just goes straight through. So it's like that one six hour truck ride or seven hour truck ride in that truck ride some of these games it's like man they are moving a lot yeah a lot less a lot more than sterns because i was even with the bigger pallet i completely agree i originally thought oh well these stern ones where the pallet is only the exact size of the box i'm like yeah there has to be spookies are i just shipped a spooky what was it she was a hair bigger i think but not much i just i do taller when you were we were having this conversation before on the jjp ones i I think that they can shrink that pallet a little bit and make them a little less unruly. I think it would still provide the extra, a little bit extra protection that they want. That buffer. Yeah. Yeah. Just a random takeaway. Yeah. Because they also put all the shock protectors on, the shock wave sensors in the tip and tails. They have been enabling those tip and tails. They have started enabling the tip and tails. So that's cool. 2026 is their year. Big year. Big year. What do you think JJP's going to do next? I've got some ideas. We're still building Harry Potters for the next 20 years. They're gonna be building Harry Potters. They will be. Do you think they would ever do Woz again? They will never run anything again that they've already run. There's no way. Did they say that? Jack has said that. They don't own that license. I don't think it's licensing, I just think that they wanted to separate themselves from some of the other manufacturers that never go back to the well. Like, you buy this game and it's whatever, get it when you can. That's it. This is make sense. Of all of their games, which one do you think they could run? I think Boise would be the one that they could do. Pirates. If they went back and did pirates, it would be huge. Well, people want pirates here. Oh my god, I'm not gonna go to bed. I'm just saying. That's the one that if they went back and did one, that would be the one that people would go the craziest for. My final thought is get out there and play some pinball. Come to Pinbrew. If you can, come to TPF. If you can, go to Bordeaux, France and check out Hexa Pinball. They'll pour you a glass. We'll drink wine together. We will. All right, Kyle, if you want to play- I can't play TPFs in like a week. Yeah, it's soon, dude. Make those donations for Flip to the Cure. But yeah, play us out here with some Mad Pinball jingle. If you have any questions, comments, concerns, Corbin at madpinball.com or freshpinball.gmail.com. I have one thing to say. Watch out, Western New York. Things are happening. You don't have pinballs and you're about to. Not yet. Are you ready for some pinball? Good night everybody! It's Jeff's birthday. Happy birthday Papa Jeff! 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