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Pinball Junk Drawer Episode 59 - How The Political Landscape Will Affect Pinball Prices

Poor Man's Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·30m 20s·analyzed·Nov 14, 2024
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TL;DR

Hosts discuss Woe Nelly completion and tariff impacts on pinball pricing.

Summary

Foghorn Leghorn and Craft Brew Sally discuss their recent pinball activities, including completing their Woe Nelly collection with a newly acquired standee, visiting Glow-in-the-Park arcade for Stern Insider Connect badges, and their decision to purchase an Elvira pinball machine. The main topic explores how potential 60% tariffs on Chinese imports could affect pinball machine pricing, given that manufacturers source components internationally despite domestic assembly in Chicago.

Key Claims

  • Woe Nelly was produced in under 300 units total, representing a financial disaster from Stern's perspective

    medium confidence · Hosts indicate their machine is #13 of 80 from first run, believe second run also occurred, but total production under 300 units

  • Pinball machines are made in Chicago but many parts are sourced from outside the U.S., making them subject to tariff impacts

    high confidence · Foghorn Leghorn explicitly states 'pinball machines are made in Chicago and they're made by these factories but a lot of the parts are sourced from from outside our country'

  • A 60% tariff on Chinese imports would force manufacturers to absorb costs or raise prices, as they operate within market price constraints

    medium confidence · Hosts discuss that manufacturers 'have to keep it under a certain number to be able to sell it for a price that the market will bear'

  • The Woe Nelly standee reconstruction was done by someone who professionally scanned the original artwork from Greg Freris (the game's artist)

    medium confidence · A Pinside user purchased the original from Greg Freris, had it scanned and recreated; the recreator then sold copies

Notable Quotes

  • “They're not cheap, but we ponied up. So now we have this standee of Melanie holding her melons and saying, please, which makes you jump when you turn the light on at first in the basis because it looks like a person standing there.”

    Foghorn Leghorn @ ~14:00 — Describes completion of Woe Nelly collection with newly acquired standee; shows enthusiasm for niche pinball collecting

  • “To this every moment of my day since that moment we got on the bus without one has haunted me and I become sadder every single moment of my life”

    Foghorn Leghorn @ ~18:30 — Humorous but genuine regret over not purchasing a Gary Stern standee at the Stern factory tour

  • “If the 500 screws and bolts that they need to make this stern pinball machine all of a sudden cost 60% more, guess what? Yeah. It's going to be more expensive to make that. And will they eat the cost? Will they not?”

    Foghorn Leghorn @ ~42:00 — Core argument about tariff pass-through economics on pinball manufacturing

  • “I don't pay attention to it. Yeah. I just know I like or dislike somebody.”

    Craft Brew Sally @ ~45:00 — Shows hosts' self-aware lack of economic/political expertise while discussing tariff topic

  • “Stern couldn't say all of a sudden, oh, we're going to start buying American-made nuts and bolts because those are so expensive.”

    Craft Brew Sally @ ~48:00 — Highlights practical constraints on reshoring manufacturing due to cost differentials

Entities

Foghorn LeghornpersonCraft Brew SallypersonGreg FrerispersonGary SternpersonStern PinballcompanyGlow-in-the-ParkorganizationPinsideorganizationWoe NellygameElviragame

Signals

  • ?

    event_signal: Stern Insider Connect monthly achievement badges driving location visits and gameplay; Pinside Secret Santa annual gift exchange growing in participation

    high · Hosts traveled to Glow-in-the-Park specifically to earn Elvira-themed badges; mention Secret Santa closing November 15th and growing annually

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Pinside forum discussions increasingly focused on pinball pricing concerns and potential economic impacts

    medium · Hosts note that pinball pricing 'is always on the first page' of Pinside; reference 'heated' discussions about pricing crash

  • $

    market_signal: Woe Nelly machine extremely limited production (under 300 units) was described as 'financial disaster' from manufacturer perspective

    medium · Hosts state production under 300 units total across two runs, characterize this as financial failure for Stern

  • $

    market_signal: Potential 60% tariffs on Chinese imports could significantly impact pinball machine component costs, forcing manufacturers to either absorb costs or raise prices

    medium · Hosts discuss thread on Pinside about tariff impacts; acknowledge manufacturers source many parts from outside U.S. despite domestic assembly

  • ?

    product_strategy: Woe Nelly collection completion facilitated by fan-driven reproduction and distribution of original game artwork

    medium · Standup artist professionally scanned original artwork; reproduction creator now sells copies commercially

Transcript

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0:00
Now who's responsi- I say who's responsible for this unwarranted attack on my person? I say, I say, I say, pay attention now, boy. This is, of course, Foghorn Leghorn presents the Pinball Junk Draw. You all asked for it. I say, I say, you all asked for it now. You're gonna get it. Boy, oh boy, are you gonna get it. Go, I say, go away, boy, you bother me. Step right up, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls of all ages. It's time for the one and only, often imitated, never duplicated, pinball junk drawer. My name is Foghorn Leghorn, and with me as always... Craft Brew Sally. That's right. We're here to talk pinball. And as you might hear in a detected note, I'm still carrying that wonderful cold that I brought back from Expo like 17 months ago. Oh my god. Save me. It won't. Can't. So, just a quick call out. Novus saves the day again. I noticed craft through Sally's headlights on her Honda. They were a little foggy. You know, we got to be able to see clearly. So I got out my little attachment to my drill. And I had this stuff that you put on it, like the compound, whatever, from Mother's. But it was sold. It turned into like goopy liquid. So that didn't work. No. Luckily, being a pinball fellow, I have copious amounts of Novus 1, 2, and 3. So I brought up Novus 2 and Novus 1, and then I put the Novus 2 on the little grinder wheel thing that goes on your drill. Boom, crystal clear. And I did a nice wipe down with the Novus 1. So Novus saves the day for Craft for Sally's wonderful... Thank you, Novus. ...halogen headlights. now hopefully I won't hit a deer they're going to be like oh it's so bright I'm going to run towards it freaking deer I never was a hunter I don't care for it but it's not that I mean I have a real soft spot for animals yeah but after you see like at least my drive to work is 20 minutes it's murder alley it's literally there's dead deer every single day there's at least one new one usually more than one and I'm like you know after a while you'd think they'd be like don't go to there that's where death happens and they would frolic in the many fields and woods that are around everywhere but they don't they don't they they they pick out a a freshly headlighted car oh my god it's crazy but that's that's part of the fun I guess or the charm of living in Wisconsin So thank you, Novus. Did have an exciting little turn of events that happened insanely quickly.
2:52
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Now, we have a Woe Nelly pinball machine that we got from Curly at a little shop of games. This is before it was taken over by Marshall. Not taken over. He franchised it, then Curly stepped out, and then Marshall took over the name. but uh so currently i bought this uh this big woe nelly where we bought it and over the years i've been trying to find the various things like the the what's that thing called banner and we made our own topper and we've the elusive standee has i've i've always searched for it since the since day one now that's a if you don't know the game it's uh it's very polarizing but i'm not sure exactly why it's polarizing. Like, it's over-the-top cheeseball sexualized, kind of, but in a goofy, funny way. Like, it's funny, I guess. I don't know. I never found it in you. Were you ever offended by it? No. I mean, it is so tongue-in-cheek.
3:58
It's very... It's just goofy. I don't even know what to say. So, anyway, there's a... The lady, she's holding two cantaloupes, and that's like the joke where her boobs are but then she's like oh i've made them myself and all this you know he has all these weird call outs so we we bought the banner which i don't know if it's legitimate or not we just got one i think there's some places that reproduce them and just sell them probably probably i mean i wouldn't know how many authentic woe nelly banners would have possibly been created. There weren't many of the machines created. No. Oh my no. Ours says number 13 I think. Number 13 of 80. Yeah. And I know that was the first run and I think there was a second run but I believe by all accounts it's under 300 of these things. Which equals a financial disaster really from Stan Stern's perspective. Yeah. But I mean if you go on there's a thread on Pinside and it's a very People that like it and get it really like it. And we fall in that camp where it's a very fun, it's a tough game. It is hard.
5:09
I've seen scores of like 800 and I go, wow. You haven't even rolled it. No. And it goes up to what, 9,999 and it would roll. I have not flipped it to this point. I'm like, that's tragic, really. How close have you been? only like I think 5 or 6 thousand it's a really really hard game but anyway there was also a standee of this gal holding her melons and just says whoa Nellie that came out with the game but it was a very small amount of these are out there they were around you can find them every now and then but somebody on Pinside I forget his name I wanted to give a call but I forgot his name. I did thank him profusely.
5:58
He had, he bought Greg Freris's, the artist from that. Like I guess he had one in his closet or a leftover or something like that and he bought that. He had it professionally scanned and then this, and recreated.
6:16
So then I reached out to him when he put up saying, you know, this is the recreation. I was like, oh my God, do you have an extra one? Would you sell me one? And he said, no, but here's the person that did it. He sent a link to them. And they're selling them. They're not cheap, but we ponied up. So now we have this standee of Melanie holding her melons and saying, please, which makes you jump when you turn the light on at first in the basin because it looks like a person standing there. It's as tall as a person. It's a person, yeah. So it has her, and then it has the machine, and then it has the banner. So we are now officially complete, although I'll still always look for other goofy stuff you know I always get the plastic sets and all that except for the stand E that we had the opportunity to buy and we did not that we're haunted this is a haunted mistake we made and I don't to this day I don't understand what we were thinking or how we're not thinking how did we let this go I don't know so we're at the Stern factory the tour and they had Gary Stern standees for sale very little for a hundred dollars very limited number right and we didn't buy one i to this every moment of my day since that moment we got on the bus without one has haunted me and I become sadder every single moment of my life I know it It so dumb We have to like I going to probably write Stern or try to see if I can rectify this disaster But, like, we could have had a Gary Stern standee and then now a Melanie holding her melon standee. Like, it would have just been a great time. It would have been a wonderful pinball party in our basement. And what were we thinking? I don't know. And the people we were with. Bob won. The owners of Lumberjack Johnny's, which was a great time hanging out with them and meeting them. Which I'm not sure how much they listen to the show because I did the call out saying, well, what happened with the UPS thing? And they never wrote back. So he's a busy fellow. Maybe he just hasn't caught up with our shows.
8:19
If you are listening, please let us know what happened with the UPS guy. Yeah. Yeah, and if you want to sell that Gary Stern standee, we'll give you an extra $5.
8:31
Oh, I'm so cheap. Anyway, so thankfully we were able to get that all dialed in. I'm trying to think what else has really been going on this week. We have an interesting topic that's going to be our topic of the show, but we'll not do that one yet. What else did we do? Oh, we traveled back down to Glow-in-the-Park. Yes, we did. Why did we do that? We went there for the Elvira badges. Oh, yes. We'll travel for badges. The achievements. See, every month there's new Stern Insider Connect has new. New achievements. And some you don't get. Right. That's just the way it is. Because you just don't. You miss them. You miss them or you whatever. Or they don't. There's nothing around you can get to. But we tried to. Yeah. And we have decided that we are going to buy an Elvira. Oh, God. Yeah, well. We went there to justify our love. That's assuming that the world's not going to stop spinning, which at this point we're not too sure of. Right. But anyway, that one, because I did the, no, we both got the Pinduck, not Pinduckin, the Pinduckin. Yeah, Pinduckin. Pinduckin, and we have, I got the Godzilla one, which you missed that one on Godzilla Day. I can't believe you didn't tell me it was Godzilla Day. What are you talking about? Okay, anyway, so then there was a whole bunch of Elvira ones from like through the 13th? Yes. Something like that. It's Elvira's Films of Fright. Oh, so great. So fun. Yeah, through the 13th. So we traveled. We trekked down there with a fistful of quarters to... No, no, no. It was not a fistful. It was a bowl full. You want to explain this to everybody? So when we were at Expo, they gave us each a roll of quarters to go to. Was it Logan's? Yes, I believe so. and it was so packed in there we no it wasn't yeah yes it was a little good um it was so packed in there we didn't really get to play that much before we got on the bus to go get her to go back home right so we both opened our roll of quarters and put them in our pocket to play and then and it's in line for pizza for two hours yeah and then got on a bus yes eventually somewhere not even in front of the place just somewhere there was a bus so we both came home with a pocket full of quarters and I didn't want to carry them around in my purse because quarters are quite heavy in your purse. Yes. I know. I always try to keep my purse really light. Right. I know.
10:59
So we put them in one of the bowls that we had in the hotel room. Yes. And then came home with a bowl of quarters. As I think we discussed, we overpacked to a level unseen before in my lifetime for this event. We had rice. Rice. We packed things that no human could possibly need. But one of that was we had the sturdy plates. And then we even had the sturdy bowls. Well, because we took raviolis and stuff. Oh, God. We were lunatics. We should have been stopped. Somebody stopped us. Somebody should have stopped us. They didn't. Neither one of us did. So Crab Fruits Alley threw the quarters into a bowl, into one of those Dixie plate bowls. and I was like okay well that makes sense because we're just there and doing stuff well I get home and I know where we keep we have these Longaberger baskets and there's this one where the mail's in one and underneath it that's where we keep our money and stuff and I looked it up to grab quarters and I was like she just put the bowl inside there and I was like what the shit what else was I going to do with it like I didn't want to throw all the quarters in there because then you have to dig them out Dixie bowl full of quarters everyone It was easier to pull the Dixie Bowl out of the basket than to take the basket out. It makes sense. I don't know why. I just lifted up the lid and I was like, huh.
12:21
Okay. Well, whatever. So there you have it. But it was a lot of fun. Man, we loved that game. Yeah. That place is pretty cool. Yes. That glow in the park. Glow in the park is really cool. It's in Oshkosh. Yeah. And if you're ever there, just go. It's a miniature golf place, but they have quite the lineup of pinball machines. mostly Sterns I had a really good game on Deadpool and on Elvira I was number 2 on both of them which sucked but the Deadpool was out of nowhere I had like 133? no 191 million something like that it was just a good game I was doing really well that's a really fun game too but I know Elvira is going to be our next we just have to keep on keeping on yeah so now the main topic was an interesting one i stumbled upon on um pin side you know what the funniest thing i've like i've stopped going on facebook right because various reasons i'm not going to quit facebook completely but i'm gonna i'm trying to like not go there uh i don't need to see the gloating or the anything else now i'm now i'm going to pin side more so it's like i still need that to read things and have interaction i think but it's not now so now i'm just like i'm just going to pin side when i'm bored and i pick up my phone instead of going to facebook which i don't know if that's better or worse but i happen to find we'll see yeah well there was a a new thread in there that i piqued my interest so this uh this thread says how will the new tariffs affect pinball prices because that's something pinball prices is always on the first page of uh pin side in one way or another i know there's a really heated one that's about the pinball pricing crash you know and all this kind of stuff but so if you don't know what we're talking about like the the president-elect has said uh bold claims of like taxing all imports from China 60% or I don't doesn't matter the um so this person was kind of saying well if everything coming out coming to the U.S. from China is going to be have a tariff of 60% on it which I do not foresee how will that affect the pinball prices because if you know I know pinball machines are made in Chicago and they're made by these factories but a lot of the parts are sourced from from outside our country. You can't, they have to control the bomb, the build of materials and they have to,
15:01
where they can save money, they have to. Like they have to keep it under a certain number to be able to sell it for a price that the market will bear So that is a legitimate question Now of course it devolved into nonsense because it hard for discussions to stay on topic in Pennside. I think that's everywhere. Everywhere? Yeah. Yeah, I guess so. And some people seem very smart, and you don't know if they are or not. you know a lot of people have blustery words and and you know and they talk a certain way that really sounds like they know what they're talking about but you don't have any basis i don't know i don't know nor care about the economy um i mean i care about it because i don't want to be you know homeless but i don't i don't know how what affects what and all that crap i'm very base level as far as if the if 500 screws and bolts that they need to make this stern pinball machine all of a sudden cost 60% more, guess what? Yeah. It's going to be more expensive to make that. And will they eat the cost? Will they not? Who knows? It was just one of those kind of intriguing discussions. What do you think about any of that?
16:15
Yeah. We talked about this earlier today. And I'm like, does this mean that they're trying to get more things made in the U.S. that they're putting these tariffs on imports? Like, is this going to open up more jobs? No, my goodness, no. Our companies will just fire people. They'll start laying off. They'll start restructuring. Right, but where are we going to get those things if they're going to cost 60% more if they're imported? Do you know what I mean? Is that the reason behind the tariffs, to try to bring more jobs to the U.S.? I don't know. And that's the thing. I don't pay attention to it. Yeah. I just know I like or dislike somebody.
17:00
Mm-hmm. We can't... Like, Stern couldn't say all of a sudden, oh, we're going to start buying American-made nuts and bolts because those are so expensive. But... Like, it's so much cheaper to get it from a foreign country that they don't pay their wages. Right. Like, we have unions and we have all these things and we have... Like, our wages are so much higher this is what happened though, I worked in a graphics place that they outsourced the graphics to India, I'll just explain this real quick as fast as I can and I was like well the quality is terrible, we have to pay to fix it when it gets back there and they're like you don't understand, these people are getting paid like a quarter a day like 25 cents a day so they don't care how bad the graphics are, if they send it back a hundred times, it's still less than a half hour of my time like it doesn't matter like so economics like it's just like well they outsourced our entire department which was a lot of people we just went away our jobs just went away and they made it work because reality is they were paying nothing nothing not like nothing it didn't matter how crappy the graphics looked they kept the skeleton team of two people to fix broken crap but it kind of seems to me like this it would have to bring more to the US because even if you're talking about a screw and it costs like whatever two cents if you're adding 60% to that you would think that someone in the US would be able to make it for that price or comparable to the 60%. I don't think it ever makes it. It's weird. And again, I don't know about all this stuff. I just know that all my experiences have said no way.
19:01
But now again, there's a lot of conjecture on this in this whole thread that I read through. Kind of saying, this is all blustery nonsense from somebody who this isn't possible. Also, I don't think China is going to lay down to somebody crippling their economy. China's number one in the world in everything kind of I don't know how much you're going to be able to push them around you look around in our houses it's like 80% China or less, China or lower I don't know I don't have the deep economic understanding or wherewithal to argue the points to anybody or with anybody because it's always like well, I don't know you know this is like I don't know politics as much as I know a lot of people are really into it yeah not not you no not you at all and not me um it's me less less than you so it's zero I didn't know anyone could care as little about that so it was just I don't know you know and you don't know this is all so much who knows you know yeah and and you don't know which ads are true and which ads are not. They're all fake. Everything's fake and lies. We don't know until it happens. Right. And that's the truth too. Who knows? It's one of those things where I kind of go like, well, I shrug and say we've been bought and sold decades ago.
20:30
It doesn't matter really. Nothing we can affect. But hopefully the prices and our economy do not tank. That would be great. Well, hopefully the prices don't go up and hopefully we're all still employed and not in bread lines. Hopefully we get that Elvira before the prices go up. I don't think we're going to. I think that was offered to us and we were like, we don't have that money right now, so sorry, but no. We should. We should what, no? Figure it out. Whatever. Anyway, if you're interested in any of this kind of nonsense, go to that Hinsight thing. There is some pretty good counterpoint going on about some stuff. than this usual name-calling nonsense, but you can just skip over that crap, you know. There is a thread you need to get involved in is the Disney one, because that one is actually fairly civil. It seems like there's actually people seeking information and getting it, which is very odd, especially for Pinside. You don't expect that. But it didn't seem like it was too wacky, and I know you really love Disney, so. I do. Go do that. Anything else before we got to the world's most popular topic? I don't think so. Okay. Well, let me drop in some glentastic music.
22:11
To drink until I fall on the ground, yeah. That's right, people. And we're back. We are back. What do you got for us, Crapperoo? This week, I'm going to talk about two different beers that I had. Wow. Yeah. First one is Lion's Tail.
22:34
They have some really great fruity, slushy beers. So I saw a post about them having one and I was like we got to find this beer So you like all right I go and find it for you And you did. You found it. Of course I did. You always do. That's what makes me a good husband. It is.
22:57
It's called Boo Berry Slushy, and it's a kettle sour. It has toasted grain, blueberry, and marshmallow. Wow. Which I've discovered I really like marshmallow in these fruity sour beers. And my waistline might give you an initiated pointer that I like marshmallows. I do like marshmallows. I don't eat them very much anymore because, you know. No. They have to be toasted. I can't just sit and eat a regular marshmallow. Wouldn't that be funny if you walked in and you saw somebody just sitting there with a bag of marshmallows eating them? You'd be like, what the hell is wrong with that person? Are they like an alien or something? Maybe. Just eating a bag of marshmallows. Yeah. They'd have to be high as hell. Like if we would have had a bag of marshmallows on that bus coming back from the first one, we could have sold each one of them for like a buck a marshmallow I bet. We'd have made $100,000. Could have had a whole lot. Put a bug in a wire machine. Just selling marshmallows to high people. All right. What was it? So was that a good beer? Yeah, it was. It was really good. I have not found a beer from Lion's Tale that I don't like. Nice. As well as Strecker. yeah so did they have you said the a fruited sour slushy something something how many different like fruit ones have they had or have you had oh tons oh is that like their shtick they're kind of like yeah they do i think they're known for some of that okay yeah cool they i mean they do do other stuff but mostly like when they do new releases it seems like it's been this fruited oh cool yeah now they got it down so that and everyone seems to love them they always sell out of them so yep nice alright so you can't find them and then the other one's a drekker of course yes a drekker that they collaborated with the brewing project which we went to the brewing project was out in I think Eau Claire okay I made you stop there that one time when we were coming back from Minnesota ah remember yeah not really we were sitting outside by the fire oh yeah yeah yeah I remember it that way So they did Sprinkle Sprinkles Everywhere, which is a, like, donut, sprinkle donut knockoff. It's a smoothie pastry sour with raspberry and plum. Nice. Yeah. Fun fact, I have a, my accent piece is I have a BMX bike, a 24-inch Monza. And the Homer, like the Simpson-style donut, that pink one, I have it accented like that. I have the thing that holds the gooseneck in is that. And now I have those little donuts that they put on the insides of the grips. Those are complimenting. I have a donut accented BMX bike.
25:47
Again. Gold and donuts. Got to be true to your heart, man. So I would definitely suggest trying some Lion's Tail, some Drecker, and some The Brewing Project. So now that's that sprinkly whatever one. Was it too sweet or anything like that? No, no. I think because it's a sour, they don't get too sweet. Yeah, I guess probably it would be too sweet if it was something else. If it wasn't like a sour-based beer and you just start adding sweet stuff, it would be like, this tastes weird. This is just pure sugar. Yeah. Now I have the diabetes.
26:25
Damn you, Wolfer Brimley. All right. Well, I guess it goes to Wolfer Brimley at this point. So there you go. So you have those two wonderful beers. to enjoy. Do you think, now you think, can that even be found anywhere or is that just local? Like how far does... Lion's Tale, I'm not positive, but I think that's pretty local. It's just a local place, isn't it? I think so. Drekker's from North Dakota. Oh, so they're everywhere. Yeah. I remember them being, they were down in Florida even, weren't they? I don't remember. Okay. I don't remember having a whole bunch of their stuff until we were here. Because what you call like,
27:00
Corks and Caps has a lot of their stuff. Yeah. And I always, it's funny though because like their logo is like some viking looking thing so I was all like oh this is just some kind of like this will be some kind of crappy metal beer you know what I mean like or like it didn't like sometimes a logo of something isn't really matching what they're doing you know what I mean like the logo of that one I remember the first time I saw it I was like oh this is going to be just like Iron City or something like this is like a real but no but they turned out to be great it just is their name and their logo it's kind of cool but I thought it was going to taste way different than it did.
27:36
All right. Got anything else for this week? No. No? You can always go to projectpinball.org. Yes, you always can. Yes. Give them some money. Yeah. We're going to buy a couple of raffles the next one, I think. Yeah. Hopefully they raffle off Elvira. That would be awesome. Or maybe our Pinside Secret Santa will get us and give us an Elvira. No. I always, you know, because we're very excited they're going to be doing the Pinside Secret Santa closes this coming Friday and November 15th. We always love this event. And it grows and grows. Every year it grows. It's just so exciting. I always kind of, I always think about that. I was like, I think if I was, if a pinball machine showed up, I don't even know how, I'd be like, I don't even know how I'd react. I'd feel like weird about it. I'd be excited, but I'd also be like, I didn't get enough of that my guy. Or the person that got me didn't. I didn't buy a pinball machine for them. I can't afford that. It'd be wild, but I don't know. Oh, I just went to the Drecker website, and they have about 10 pinball machines in the brewery. Oh, there you go. Yeah. Where's their brewery? Oh, North Dakota. I think it's in Fargo. Wow. Yeah. But yeah. You can go see the place where they threw that guy into that wood chipper. Yes. Steve Buscemi. Trying to see what kind of pinball machines they have, but it's like a drone over. Yeah, gotcha. So you can't really see. What was that movie we just watched yesterday with Steve Buscemi? Very young Steve Buscemi. King of New York. Oh, yeah. Christopher Walken. Everyone was in that movie, and everyone was like, oh, they were so young. It was like from 94, 97, something like that. I was like, oh, my God. Very weird. alright is that going to do it for today make sure you're sending us emails or questions we have the email is in the show notes but it's also what is that pinballjd at gmail.com it is wow look at that I'm even remembering stuff sometimes you can email us if you'd like us to send you a sticker yeah we will we'll send you one of our show stickers they're pretty big and they're glorious they're very sparkly yes because if you leave me in charge of it it's going to be sparkly it is and fabulous Alright, that's going to do it My name is, was, and always will be Foghorn Leghorn and with me as always Craft Brew Salad And we'll see you next time Keep on flippin' folks That's it man Game over man, game over