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Pinball Junk Drawer Episode 42 - Timing is everything

Poor Man's Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·analyzed·Mar 13, 2024
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TL;DR

Pinball community gossip, basement renovation sticker shock, and ethical debate on unlicensed merch.

Summary

This episode of Pinball Junk Drawer covers miscellaneous pinball community updates including a failed surprise coin delivery to a visiting player (Orby), basement renovation cost shock ($58k for framing/drywall alone), discussion of Barry Osler's barbecue-themed pinball machine and upcoming Pulp Fiction releases, unlicensed translight/banner sourcing ethics, and brewery reviews from a Minnesota trip.

Key Claims

  • A basement renovation contractor quoted $58,000 just for framing, drywall, bathroom, and electrical work without flooring or painting

    high confidence · Foghorn Leghorn discussing their Wisconsin house renovation project

  • Barry Osler passed away and designed a barbecue-themed pinball machine

    high confidence · Foghorn Leghorn mentions this as 'big news'

  • Pulp Fiction pinball machines are starting to hit the market and Project Pinball is running an unlimited-ticket drawing for one

    medium confidence · Foghorn and Craft Beer Sally discussing Pulp Fiction availability and Project Pinball's unlimited drawing at $75/ticket

  • Stern no longer produces licensed banners/translights, making unlicensed alternatives the only option for collectors wanting specific artwork

    medium confidence · Debate about unlicensed translight sourcing; Foghorn argues availability of official products influences willingness to purchase alternatives

  • The Whoa Nelly translight may not be an official licensed product despite appearing authentic

    low confidence · Foghorn speculates about translight source and authenticity

Notable Quotes

  • “$58,000. You heard correctly, folks. $58,000.”

    Craft Beer Sally @ ~17:30 — Shock revelation of basement renovation cost for framing/drywall only

  • “As faithful as my options with this. There's a lot of people taking the high ground like, well, that's damaging. Damaging what?”

    Foghorn Leghorn @ ~28:00 — Philosophy on sourcing unlicensed merchandise when official versions unavailable

  • “I've been burned too many times by that whole, oh, this is a limited run and look at how limited it is and limited, limited, limited and we're going to make everything so hard to get even though you're a consumer. Screw you.”

    Foghorn Leghorn @ ~28:30 — Criticism of artificial scarcity and limited edition strategy frustration

  • “So you don't have any objection to that? Any care? Nah. Nah. Nah, brah.”

    Foghorn Leghorn @ ~30:00 — Explicit disregard for IP licensing concerns on translight/banner sourcing

  • “I'm going to regret not getting that game. I hope Lumberjack Johnny Pinball has it.”

    Foghorn Leghorn @ ~22:30 — Expressing FOMO about Pulp Fiction and location scout reference

Entities

Foghorn LeghornpersonCraft Beer SallypersonOrbypersonSkater GlennpersonBarry OslerpersonDanpersonPinball Junk DrawerorganizationProject PinballorganizationPulp FictiongameBarbecuegame

Signals

  • ?

    business_signal: Stern's withdrawal from licensed merchandise (banners/translights) production leaves collector demand unmet

    medium · Hosts note Stern no longer producing these items, creating market for unlicensed alternatives

  • ?

    event_signal: District 82 hosted major pinball tournament (possibly Nationals equivalent); drew international players including Australian competitor

    medium · Tournament reference with Orby participation; hosts unable to recall exact tournament name but acknowledge its significance

  • ?

    community_signal: Project Pinball.org positioned as legitimate community organization worthy of financial support despite losing FOMO lottery

    high · Hosts express willingness to buy losing tickets: 'We don't care... I also don't mind giving mate to Project Pinball.org. They're an awesome place.'

  • $

    market_signal: Strong FOMO-driven demand for Pulp Fiction; hosts expressing regret about not pre-ordering and interest in secondary market access

    high · Foghorn states 'I bet you I'm going to regret not getting that game' and interest in playing at local venue

  • ?

    personnel_signal: Barry Osler, pinball designer, has passed away

    high · Explicit mention: 'Barry Osler, he passed away, but he did a barbecue themed pinball machine'

  • $

Transcript

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0:00
Now who's responsi- I say who's responsible for this unwarranted attack on my person? I say, I say, I say, pay attention now, boy. This is, of course, Foghorn Leghorn presents the Pinball Junk Drawer. You all asked for it. I say, I say, you all asked for it now. You're gonna get it. Boy, oh boy, are you gonna get it. Go, I say, go away, boy, you bother me.
0:25
Oh my gosh, and we are back. This is, of course, We Suck It. Oh, no, I don't even know if we do that show anymore. Anyway, my name is Foghorn Leghorn. And with me, as always, Craft Brew Sally. And this is, of course, the Pinball Junk Drow. Big show 42. Wow. Wow, indeed. Yes. The little joke was there because we were on vacation and we just kind of skipped the Wii show. And that's sad. I'm starting to wonder if we really are going to do that show anymore. Stay tuned. We'll be back. I hope so. So, I mean, since we've been putting our email out there and all that kind of stuff, I'm assuming we have tons of emails and lots of people have written and said, oh, I have a Space Invaders or a Austin Powers that are really cheap for you to fix up. I'm assuming that. Did you get those emails, crap bro? Do you have any? Did you get any emails at all, crap? Google sent us tips and updates. That was it. As to why no one cares about our email address. Oh, that's sad. It is sad. If you're listening to this, just send us an email. Yeah, I literally, I started putting it in the notes so you can just click it. You don't even have to like know it. You can just click the button and it'll. Just so we know you're listening. Just say hi. I know some people are out there. Oh, well. I know. That's a no on the Space Invaders or Austin Powers then.
1:46
They're a no. I will tell you, since the debacle, I've ramped up looking for projects. because spring is coming. That means I'm going to have lots of time in the garage. Right. And I really want to get a game I can rotisserie out.
Whoa Nelly
game
Lumberjack Johnny Pinballorganization
Lynn Lake Brewingorganization
Brewing Projectorganization
District 82organization
Corks and Capsorganization
Stern Pinballcompany
Ballycompany
Otoboke Beaverorganization

market_signal: Basement renovation quotes in Wisconsin region show significant cost inflation ($58k for framing/drywall only)

high · Contractor quote of $58,000 for frame, drywall, bathroom, electric without flooring/paint; hosts unable to pursue original barcade plan as result

  • ?

    announcement: Pulp Fiction pinball machines shipping to market; Project Pinball running unlimited-ticket drawing at $75/ticket

    high · Hosts confirm machines 'ready to go' and 'hitting the street' with explicit drawing details

  • ?

    rumor_hype: Barbecue-themed pinball machine may be in production; hosts uncertain of status

    low · Foghorn: 'I think they're making them already. The barbecue ones? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think so. I could be wrong on that, but who cares?'

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Community sentiment shift toward IP piracy acceptance on secondary merchandise when official products unavailable

    medium · Hosts express pragmatic acceptance of unlicensed translights/banners due to manufacturer unavailability; frame corporate scarcity strategies as justification

    • 2:02
    It's slim pickings out there, man. You just want to spend time in the garage because the neighbor cat comes over and visits. She does. She comes running over, and I can just tell my neighbors are so angry because she likes me better than them.
    2:16
    Oh, well. What are you going to do? Big shout out. Tribe member number 26, Orby. first of all big shout out to skater glenn because he he uh contacted us and said hey let's get a coin i don't think that's his name i think it's like intern intern skater glenn no slippy slappy sarsaparilla yes simon sam sam i am sam that's right okay otherwise known as glenn yeah he so he reached out and said hey let's get uh let's get this is a kind of a convoluted story but it's This kind of actually is very fitting for the poor man tribe, I feel. Right. So he reached out and said, hey, I want to buy or be a coin. And I said, oh, that's really cool. And I stamped the coin. And, of course, it was too late to ship it up to Canada. And then I was like, oh, well, he's going to District 82. I'll ship it there. And I wrote to the guy who runs District 82 pinball. I said, hey, I have something I'm going to send up to a participant in the upcoming. Is it Nationals? What was it? I think it was. I don't know. It was a big, you can tell we're not really competitive in ball players. I don't know names of things. And he said, yeah, that's cool. Go ahead. So in my brain, I'm like, all done. I had it stamped, put it in the mail Monday morning. Or no, Monday afternoon. And I left work early. I kind of skipped lunch and stuff so I could get out of there early to get to the, because I have really bad hours at the local post office. And I got it in the mail, and I was like, done and done. Another success story. In my brain, I'm like, he's going to be like, oh, Orville Albert, we have a package for you as well. And he'd be like, wow, what a special day. And then he'd feel really good. And it was like the third day I wrote, and I was like, hey, did you get an envelope? Because I thought he would have said something. Nope. Then he sends a picture. It was still in the mailbox out front. On Saturday.
    4:14
    I had tracking. It got there Wednesday. I'm like, come on, man. so they have their their mailbox is like our inbox at pinballjd at gmail.com they never get anything there so they don't even look didn't even look i was like well that kind of was a whiff but he was still excited about it and uh so then he sent like a picture of him getting it out of the mailbox he literally was getting the only thing out of the mailbox i'm like oh my god that couldn't have went worse because i like in my brain i'm like this will be a big surprise right and it'll be a big boost and he's gonna be like yay i'm gonna beat everyone because of this magic coin right oh well second i'm glad he got it and it's all cool and thank you skater glenn you are skater glenn of anybody has like a really nice heart yeah i mean like he's the one that thinks this kind of cool stuff uh i don't think anything but so So, nothing. And so, and I was like, this, for Orby's trip down here. Now, he's going to talk all about it on his show because, you know, he has, he's an actual media, pinball media creator.
    5:25
    We're just kind of, I don't even know what to call us. We're just here. So, I was like, I wanted to, I couldn't believe the timing of this whole thing. Right. And I'll explain this. And this is after the fact, it sounds really grandiose, but this is probably what would have happened. Like we live 40 minutes away right on 41. Like we're literally like what, five minutes off of 41. Yeah. And that's what connects the world to Green Bay. Like anywhere in the world, it goes, well, good on 41. Like no matter where you are. So if he would have had this any other week in the, in the year. Yes. He would have landed. He would have stayed at our house in a very comfortable bed. and he would have driven up there and come back and either chilled, relaxed. I would have cooked food for all of us. Could I do that kind of stuff? And it would have been free and clear and off he would have went. But that's not what happened at all. We never even got to see him. Because we were out of the state for the Otoboke Beaver punk concert in Minnesota, which was awesome. Yes, it was.
    6:30
    And I was like, the timing couldn't have been worse. And I know like this is such a long thing. I know by day three, he probably was like didn't he was had enough of pinball and had enough of Americans and had enough of crap food. Right. Like so he was like leaving to go home and drive home. And I almost was going to say, hey, swing by and I'll at least like fill you up with some coffee and like we'll have a home cooked meal and then you can get on the road. But I was like, I guarantee he was like, I just want to get out of this country. Yeah. Like I want to get back home you know Right So I glad you were here Orby Next time I hope you can take me up on the offer You will have a wonderful relaxing time at Crafter Sally and Foghorn Leghorn house And we will put you up. And it's very close and it will be very convenient. You will be surprised how easy it is to get to where you were playing from our house. And I couldn't believe it. I just couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it. Of all weekends in the entire year. My schedule's pretty open. Right. I'm going to say it that way. But we had those concert tickets for what, like six, eight months? Forever. Right. I couldn't. I was like, so I hope you did have fun. I know you probably had some fun. I hope you did well. And we were all rooting for you, Orby, tribe member 26.
    7:53
    So we got back. What's it like to be a tribe member? it's a secret society and you'll never be part of it oh man i don't think that's even a thing anymore i think it's just i think it's just ended you know that too that box of 200 tribe coins i'm sitting on so i could be a tribe member it just wouldn't be official yeah they're kind of becoming collectibles because every time i stub my toe on them i'm about ready to throw them in the garbage because i was like i don't even know i need these anymore oh well so one other thing that kind of was interesting was we got our first quote for what we're calling the barcade down here. Now, those of you not in the know are new to our show. Welcome. We bought a new construction house here in Greenville, Wisconsin. We had moved from Clearwater, Florida, where we called home for 28 years, something. The number changes every time I say it, because I don't know math. It was like 1993 to 2020, whatever that equals. So we were in Clearwater, then we get up here and we have a new construction house. It's a nice house, but the basement wasn't finished. Neither was the yard, but the yard's finally done.
    9:01
    So we lived in a mud field. It looked kind of like there was landmines in there. Like Mars, maybe? Mars-ish.
    9:10
    Huge rocks everywhere. So we have an abatement. It's a window. We have one window in the basement. Egress. Egress, right. I also don't know words of things. So I have an egress. That sounds like it's a flightless waterfowl from Tampa. That's an egret. Yes, the egrets have flown south for the winter. But when they return. So we're going to have like, okay, we're going to have a fourth bedroom and a third bathroom. And then the rest of this gigantic basement is going to be one big barcade. Going to have a bar built for Crapfruits Sally with some beer taps, a kegerator. And the rest of it's going to be nothing but pinballs and sunshine and lights. And it'll be the most arcadey thing in the world. Of course, our Wii collection. Our Wii collection for our Wii suck at video game show and our retro game pit. Well, the guy, I finally was like, okay, I'll start scheduling these guys to come in so they can give us their thing and measure and then they come back. And I'm thinking, okay, well, you know, we had one guy a long time ago gave us a quote for 40 grand. I was like, wow, that's a lot of money. He was probably swinging for the fences. And then this guy came out and he was like looking around. And I said, look, we'll do the painting. We'll do the flooring.
    10:24
    Just make walls, man. You just make walls down here. And I think they also included the bathroom and the electric because they have to and the HVAC.
    10:36
    Hey, Catherine, was that a favorable quote? No. Do you envision us ever having a finished basement anymore? Unless we win the lottery. Yeah. And it's a small win lottery. Still not happening. No, if it's a small win lottery, then we're going to have the basement finished. But if it's a big one, then we're just selling this house and we're building our own. With a walk-in basement. So what did that come back at? Without flooring or paint.
    11:08
    $58,000. You heard correctly, folks. $58,000. How many pinballs do you think? How many pinball machines would that be? That would be like almost six Godzillas. My goodness. So we wrapped our head around the fact that, well, it ain't going to be as gorgeous as we envisioned down here. Unless we both go to trade school and learn how to do these things by ourselves. So sadly, the dreams of the barcade have been crushed. I think we're going to just transition into kind of clean it up. I mean, put down carpet and cover the walls with banners and stuff like that. And then just make a barcade that's just not going to be a finished basement. It's not going to. The reality is it's not going to happen. No way. That's so much money. That is so much money.
    12:04
    So we might keep chiseling away money for it. But at this point, the dream, that ship has sailed. We'll see. The barcade is now an unfinished basement with some pinballs and a bar that I built.
    12:18
    I was quite taken aback. I'm not even going to have any more quotes coming out. We probably should get other quotes because this guy didn't give us an itemized thing. It was just like, lifts off the things and then says $58,000. There's no like, if you do this and this and this. So I think we might still. just it was just you just open a pdf it was just gigantic numbers yeah just 58 000 58k homie yeah oh man like i want you to tell me how much i'm good you're gonna charge me for just the studs and just the drywall yeah because that's the other thing we were kind of like i was even angling like saying look man you know if we got to this the wall the studs and the drywall right that's all i really want to get to right now right because then if that would have popped us with like 18 grand or whatever i mean like that's a lot but okay yeah we probably would have figured it out but right but he didn't even they didn't even do that it wasn't obvious like well no you can't do that because of the permits i'm like well who's giving these permits i'm gonna pay for the permit so i don't care if i have to get three permits like why can't i walk in and say hey listen you yokels i'm gonna buy i'm getting wood and and drywall right make a permit for that. But I guess maybe that's not how it works. No, I mean we're going to find out. We'll let you know later. I'm going to quit. Anyway, the only other big news we had was Barry Osler, he passed away, but he did a barbecue themed pinball machine.
    13:57
    Does that do anything for you? I've seen pictures of it I've seen like not too much else about it so I really didn't know what was going on with it so I don know it was one of those things where I was like okay I will say in general I don really care about if it a wacky theme or not
    14:25
    I mean, I like certain themes more, of course. I love Godzilla. We love the Beatles. We love... But if it's like Taxi or some wacky thing, I don't care. If it's a fun game, it's a fun game. Right. You know, I don't know if this one will be a fun game. I'm going to play it. You know, it does, like, the theme doesn't do anything for me because I don't really care about barbecue. I mean, I like barbecue, but I don't know. You know, like, I'd be like, oh, if they had a pizza theme, I'd be like, well, I like pizza, but I don't really. Right. What do you do with a machine to make it a pizza theme? Oh, here, this challenge is get all the cheeses. this challenge is delivering 30 minutes or it's free oh no it'd be like the oxygenator avoid the noid godzilla and then i'd be like your time's up no oh man yeah right yeah that terror i mean i'll play it yeah of course i'll enjoy playing it and i know i've heard more and more that the Pulp Fictions are hitting the street. Oh, man. I bet you I'm going to regret not getting that game. I hope Lumberjack Johnny's has it. Right. I'll play it enough that I'll be like, well, sorry about your luck in Space Invaders Pinball. Now I am lusting after Pulp Fiction. Sorry about your luck, basement. Yeah, right. These are the nails in your coffin. Yeah, the first nail to Pulp Fiction. oh that's true so I don't know we'll see it does great stuff Project Pinball announced that they're doing a drawing for that ah and it's going to be a big one because I think they're doing unlimited like usually they say okay we're going to have 75 or 100 yeah whatever and you buy the tickets and that's it now this one is going to be unlimited so that's good I don't care that's good for Project Pinball not good for us I mean, I'm going to buy one. We'll probably buy one or two, maybe two. They're $75 a pop. I don't care. We never win these things, but I also don't mind giving money to Project Pinball.org. They're an awesome place. Dan is doing great things for the world. Looking forward to seeing them at Expo. Oh, I know. It's always nice to see Dan. We'll have to tell him that we have him linked up to the show and everything like that. We're plugging away for him. Well, I guess I'll buy a ticket or two and the hell with it. Hey, you never know. I don't know what I would do with a barbecue thing. I'd sell it. I would go get a Pulp Fiction. Or put it away towards our basement.
    17:10
    I'll trade you this pinball machine new in box for those studs and drywall. Fine, sir. Yes. I don't think that's going to work out.
    17:20
    Throw in $48,000 and it's yours. No, that's not how this is working. That rough math. That's what they're using. We'll be able to play them. I think they're like ready to go. I actually think they're making them already. The barbecue ones? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think so. I could be wrong on that, but who cares? Yeah. Last item on our docket for the day. Now, this has been a heated topic for the last couple weeks. the pinball show was talking about the unlicensed or illegal kind of banners that are floating around out there and the artwork that's not like you can get alternate translights for pinball machines that's not licensed or anything like that there's the famous Flintstones ones where they're getting beeches but you can't see it but Fred and Barney are kind of it's a very weird translator and you wouldn't notice until you know it's there and you look and you're like oh that's oh yeah it's no one needs that no uh like but i'm pretty sure like now no pinball pimp we bought those banners that are like the themed right i don't know if bally got any of that money i mean he might have been licensed is he still or is bally still a thing yeah well yeah people hold these licenses oh okay but i mean i don't really the whole debate it's kind of like, okay, like that Whoa Nelly banner. I guarantee that's not a real one. I mean, it looks real. It looks 100% accurate of what would have been released by Stern. But where did we get that? It was like one of those, it was just an online place. And it was like an online place that I almost thought it might have been just like unused stock. But I don't know if it was. I don't think that's a real thing. I don't know. But the reality is, Stern's not going to make them. So I'm really as faithful as my options with this. There's a lot of people taking the high ground like, well, that's damaging. Damaging what? I wouldn't rip off artists. I wouldn't take bootleg artists that was like Dirty Donnie's or Franchise or anything like that. That's their artwork. And I guess it's the same kind of thing if you're talking about Stern, but I've been burned too many times by that whole, oh, this is a limited run and look at how limited it is and limited, limited, limited and we're going to make everything so hard to get even though you're a consumer. Screw you. Yep. I gave up on all that caring about that crap. How many times has like Nintendo, oh, sorry, folks, we're out of Switches. It's really weird. Yeah. PlayStation. Oh, no, those what you call it. Do you remember when we were buying those controllers for the Switch? Oh, there's still old retro. Yeah, like where you get the NES or the Super NES. The second they come out, they're sold out. Oh, they're sold out. We can't get them. So then everybody starts putting them on eBay or whatever. And then, oh, here you go. Here's another batch. Yep. And then you just hope you can fend off whatever's going on. So that's when I really kind of gave up on that whole, gee, I sure don't want to steal from X company or Y company. Right. To hell with it.
    20:33
    I'm as faithful as my options is all I'm going to say with that. Who's going to take my money? Yeah, exactly. Right. You know, I've always said, oh, I'd love to have Stern stickers and Stern patches and Stern. I'm the biggest Stern fanboy there. Not the biggest. I'm a Stern fanboy, though. Yeah, me too. They don't want to take my money. Nope. Like, if they had a banner and all this kind of stuff, here you go, sir. Thank you for your wares. And that's it. But they just don't. So, okay, illegal Chinese supplier. Thank you for your wares. Who cares, I guess. you know but bottom line for a corporation whatever but it's something that they don't even produce not anymore so yeah if you going to make this so hard to get then I don really care where I get it from right I mean I not going to meet somebody in a dark alley behind a porno place or anything like that at night But I sure get a box shipped from Amazon illegally Right. So you don't have any objection to that? Any care? Nah. Nah, brah. Nah.
    21:45
    barrel of fun roll out The fans have spoken and we have listened. It's Beer Journal Review with me Craft Brew Sally. Bring out a song of beer Now it's time to roll the And of course that wonderful music means it's time for the one, the only, often imitated never duplicated Beer Journal Review. imitated yeah watch out all those Chinese imitators oh man so while we were away in Minnesota it's like by law you have to say it that way isn't it? I think so it feels right when you say it that way it sure does so we went to a brewery in Minneapolis called Lynn Lake Brewing they had good beer selection.
    22:47
    They had that coffee beer. That coffee, I think it was a coffee porter. Tasted just like coffee. That did taste like coffee. Usually they don't. Usually it's like a hint of coffee with some blah blah blah and some hops and crap. Same crap. Normally when we're out of town and we go to a brewery, Foghorn gets something that's very similar to a Bud Light Platinum or a lager or whatever. And like, sometimes I'm like, oh, you got to try this one. Yeah. That was good. And now, where was that? That one was like near the venue or no? No, that was the one by the, that record store. Oh, yeah. What extreme noise. Yeah. So then we went there and then on the way home, we stopped at a place in Eau Claire, Wisconsin called the Brewing Project. Yeah. And their facility was really nice. Oh, yeah. It was gorgeous. And their beers were really good.
    23:51
    If you ever are in Eau Claire, I would definitely recommend going to the Brewing Project. So what did you get? You got a bunch of stuff there. At the Brewing Project, yeah. I think I got two flights. Yeah. See, that was one we never go to because anytime we're that far out, you're going to line and Google. Yeah, and it felt weird not going to line and Google. I don't know if it is. It's okay. We'll get there. I promise. I know. It's just like that. It's just a Wisconsin thing. Like if you're in that area, you have to go there. I mean, the line in Kugel is the gold standard. You know what I mean? They're really good. Right.
    24:29
    So I had, I think, six beers at, six different ones at the place. one of my favorites that I've had from them is called Hawaiian Shirt Party. Yeah. And they are currently on version two of it. And that's like a Hawaiian punch flavor. No, it was like a, it's more of a like pina colada kind of pineapple. They made one that was like a fruit, like more fruity, didn't they? Or am I thinking something else? I think so. They had a lot of good beers on theirs. they had like a caramel macchiato and that lemon shanty that was the one yeah i think i made you try two beers this weekend that you wouldn't normally have tried that's okay i mean i'm not against it i just usually i'm usually i'm the designated driver i still have three hours of driving after this i'm like that killed my mood we were sitting there and they had a fire going and it's kind of cold but we were outside and there's this fire going and crafters drinking their second flight, I look at him like, oh my God, I still have three more hours to drive.
    25:34
    Okay, round it up. Let's get going. He's like, chug, chug, chug. My mood has soured. Yeah, it is like a four and a half hour drive from here to Minneapolis, which isn't bad, but it's like a long drive. I don't know why. No, there's nothing. Just fields and then city. right yeah so uh of the two you would definitely think i would definitely suggest going to brewing project brewing project or at least find some of their beers locally because i know they have a lot of them at corks and caps yeah and i think i've had a number of them like they make some cheesecake ones that are like raspberry cheesecake and cherry cheesecake yeah too many flavors for me But I'm going to stick in the mud. But it is brewing projects with a K. Yes, they're extreme. Right. I did throw this out, and I'll stick to it. I said Craft Brew owes you a couple of craft beers, Orby. So next time he does make his way down to the States, we are on the hook for a few. I think he's a big aficionado, so I think you'll have fun. Excellent. Yeah. So we'll have to take him to a local. Probably lines, too. Or you can break a couple off of your massive shelf of craft brews here. if you... The look I'm getting, I guess that's not happening. Sorry, Orby, that ain't happening. No. I can share.
    27:00
    Can you? Yes. Okay. You're going to get like one, he's going to get like one taster sip from each one you're drinking. You're like, oh, this one's really good. You should run out and get one of these, Orby. You're like, oh, okay. I'll just take them to Corks and Caps. Sorry about your luck, buddy. Should have let me take you out. Oh, man.
    27:18
    No, I would share. I know. Oh, well. That's it? Yeah, that's it. Okay, so what's the project? Brewing project. Brewing project, yeah. You're thinking of project pinball. Too many projects. Right? I'm thinking of this Broken Dreams project down here in the basement. Oh, man. Yeah, no kidding. I think we should just theme it like a dank cellar, like an Addams Family. Then it could just stop cleaning down there. No, we wouldn't have to get the spider web. Just put a fake hand coming out of something and then that bald dude with the light bulb in his mouth. No. You could. no thanks for listening everyone this has been the pinball junk tour big show 42 if you want to drop us an email we'll have the link in the show but I think you already gave it out didn't you like what is it pinballjd at gmail.com easy peasy lemon squeezy well that's going to do it thanks for listening we will see you next time we're out that's it man game over man It's game over!