Stream 511: Star Trek (Stern) LE

Don't Panic Flip·video·2h 52m·analyzed·Jan 11, 2022

Analysis

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TL;DR

Don't Panic Flip gameplay stream on Star Trek LE with strategy discussion and LED lighting exploration.

Summary

George Fisher hosts Don't Panic Flip with guest Asher playing Star Trek (Stern) LE. They discuss gameplay strategy, mode progression (Nero 1-3, Prime Directive, Space Jump), scoring techniques, and the game's mechanics. The stream also features discussion of Neo Xtreme LED lighting from Pin Stadium, pinball design philosophy, virtual pinball tools, and community ideas about game logging and auditing.

Key Claims

Prime Directive mode is valuable because after completing your away team, every orbit shot feeds the upper flipper, making lock lighting very easy
high confidence · Asher explaining Prime Directive strategy during gameplay
Nero 3 is a risky high-risk, high-reward strategy in tournaments; viable only in pump-and-dump scenarios (30-40% success rate), not in head-to-head play
high confidence · Asher discussing tournament strategy for Nero 3
A historical meta in Star Trek involved timing out Prime Directive 3 repeatedly, allowing shot values to build indefinitely without resetting
high confidence · Asher recounting old meta strategy
Swedish player Yorian was exceptional at the tedious Kobayashi meta where you would sit idle waiting for all six modes to time out, then play super ramps for the rest of the game
medium confidence · Asher describing Yorian's Kobayashi strategy at an expo
Save the Enterprise mode has a bug where every time you shoot the warp ramp, the next warp ramp shot is also treated as a combo, and spinner shots double the value
high confidence · Asher explaining the Save the Enterprise bug during gameplay
Neo Xtreme LED system from Pin Stadium can be controlled via API to allow stream audiences to change playfield colors dynamically
medium confidence · George mentioning they contacted Scott from Pin Stadium about API access the night before
Pinball games could implement input logging (tracking every switch activation with timestamps) similar to TrackMania's replay system to verify and replay game scores
medium confidence · Asher proposing a game audit mechanism during discussion about game design
Destroying the Drill mode with a stacked away team creates a super spinner worth approximately 4 million per shot
high confidence · Asher describing Destroying the Drill mode value during gameplay

Notable Quotes

“I would never do it head to head... for head to head that's a little scary... but this is one of those games where in tournaments you need a couple hundred million a lot of the time”
Asher@ 21:27 — Core strategic insight about Nero 3's viability in different tournament formats
“You would just sit there and then he would shoot the scoop but then like he would always finish kobayashi every single time and then he would just play super ramps for the rest of the game”
Asher@ 26:29 — Description of Yorian's exceptional Kobayashi meta mastery
“That was the most boring tedious meta ever but uh you could get a couple hundred million pretty fast”
Asher@ 25:28 — Self-aware commentary on old Prime Directive 3 timeout meta strategy
“I love it when a plan comes together”
Asher@ 28:03 — Celebratory moment after successfully executing a planned combo shot
“Every combo is like um just the next combo is double so any of the red flashing shots now it's just like whatever the shot value is double”
Asher@ 16:51 — Explanation of Star Trek's combo multiplier system

Entities

George FisherpersonAsherpersonYorianpersonStar Trek (Stern)gamePin Stadiumcompany ScottpersonNick (The Pinsomniac)personDeadflippersonVisual Pinballproduct

Signals

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gameplay_signal: Detailed discussion of Star Trek LE mode progression strategy, including risk/reward analysis of Nero 3 farming in different tournament contexts (pump-and-dump vs head-to-head). Expert-level strategic play demonstrated.
high · Asher explaining Nero 1-3 progression, lock stacking mechanics, and tournament viability percentages; discussion of Prime Directive as superior safe strategy
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design_innovation: Neo Xtreme LED system from Pin Stadium demonstrated during stream with discussion of dynamic color control. Potential for API-driven stream audience control of playfield lighting explored.
high · George and Asher actively experimenting with red/blue lighting filters during gameplay; discussion of contacting Pin Stadium for API access to allow chat/mod control
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gameplay_signal: Save the Enterprise mode identified as having a long-standing bug where warp ramp combos perpetually chain, allowing rapid point accumulation. Never fixed by Stern.
high · Asher stating: 'Save the Enterprise is bugged in this game and they've never fixed it is because every time you shoot the warp ramp the next warp ramp is also a combo'
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design_philosophy: Discussion of implementing input-logging systems similar to TrackMania to verify and replay pinball game scores. Proposed as method to track every switch activation with timestamps for score validation.
medium · Asher proposing: 'I feel like you could do that for pinball too you just count every single switch in one time... you could actually verify game scores'
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historical_signal: Recounting of Star Trek LE historical meta strategies: Prime Directive 3 timeout loop (value building), and Kobayashi timeout meta where Yorian would maximize scoring through idle waiting before entering final mode.

Topics

Star Trek (Stern) LE gameplay and strategyprimaryMode progression and scoring optimizationprimaryTournament strategy and metaprimaryLED lighting technology and stream integrationsecondaryPinball game design philosophy and innovationsecondaryGame replay/audit logging systemssecondaryVirtual pinball tools and designmentionedHistorical pinball meta strategiessecondary

Sentiment

positive(0.82)— Enthusiastic and collaborative gameplay discussion; hosts and guest clearly enjoy both the game and the shared experience. Positive community sentiment throughout, with appreciation for technical innovations (Neo Xtreme) and design discussion. Minor frustrations with gameplay (missed shots, outlane drains) are expressed casually and humorously rather than negatively.

Transcript

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[Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] so [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] so [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] so so [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] good evening everyone my name is george this show is don't panic flip and tonight we've got an awesome guest asher welcome again thanks for having me and uh so we were just chatting about different uh video games and different types of streams we watch on twitch besides pinball and you had kind of uh an interesting uh other game that you were playing do you want to describe that again uh tarkov or rust yes we can go through both yeah play a lot of uh you want to just get started and talk about where we're going totally you have like all the music turned off so we go for the lotta points strat or go for the i'll go for the lap points let's start with points but at some point we do have to throw down on a max warp ramps all right or in a row in a row two yeah okay so yeah no i've been playing a lot of escape from tarkov it's a survival game but uh it's uh pretty brutal but it's got the uh it's kind of like realistic that's not the reason i play it but uh so the reason why a lot of other people play it okay wait when you say it realistic do you mean like the weapons yeah so like all the weapons and like how you can mod your weapons and stuff it's kind of interesting because there's not a lot of other games like it in that like way that it's like i don't know and i also like the combat too so it's more like for example it's like it's more about like what bullet you use rather than what gun you use oh really yeah okay so like the more expensive bullets are the guns like the vessel right right like how like much recoil or how fast you can aim down it's all complicated but uh it's like actually pays attention though to the type of bullets that you might use yeah oh geez it's pretty interesting okay so you went nero first yeah so um a lot of the giant point strategy is uh you go nero three just at the start of the game okay drill down nero so nero one is doing single ball play so i finished nero one got it because once you do your away team even if you drain your you finish the mode for all the level ones and then level two i sack in with my klingon multiball and then nero 3 is only 3 shots and then now you have a permanent 2x on the spinner and then you go into a safety enterprise with 2x on the spinner it gets a little funny there's a few bugs with it where you can get a couple hundred million really fast by looping the warp ramp so yeah that's what i've always wanted to do is put the multiplier on the warp ramp but i can never remember i don't know if there is one i'm pretty sure it's is there there might be one i think there is one it might be oh no does anyone know oh no i'll take it real kickback and like the the pro with the uh uh yeah the fake kickback oh oh we're just done with that yep [Music] all right let's see if i can find this shot tonight snivy tries good evening and how you doing stream bart in the house okay so at this point typically what i do is just try and beat everything level one and then come back but i'm not going to usually for a point strategy at this point because i didn't go nero should i just try and level up to three and permanently put a multiplier and whatever is no i think prime directive's good as well so the reason prime directive is so good is once you do your away team every time you shoot an orbit it feeds the upper flipper so lighting locks is super easy okay so now every spinner shot in right orbit will feed that upper flipper right which is pretty nice makes everything move a little oh [Music] we're fine you're good don't flip too hard what was that don't flip too hard yeah right now oh you got a gold on the first one all right so now i'm on neuro2 i don't have all my locks ready but i'm close-ish it's nice on yours that you can every time or i mean i say every time but i've only done it once which is if you shoot spinner i missed okay so you want to clear like the entire play field when you do this mode oh i thought that was going to bounce over warming up here so there's the nero three right and it takes three before you can start racking up points now uh does nero the the uh later rounds are those easier or like are they less shots than some of the other modes nero two is pretty hard okay um it's i think it's ten shots so that's why i tend to stack in klingon with it just because it finishes itself got it um that's what i was trying to do there trying to get my last lock um but uh yeah and then nero 3 is it's a really tricky mode but if you just play it controlled it's really easy because there's two shots and one is connected to the right flipper one's connected to the left flipper every time you flip they move got it so get the ball you just the ball cradled on the left and then you flip until the right flip is good and then you put you two stage the left flipper until it's good as well and then you shoot the center ramp and then you flip six times and you shoot the center ramp and you flip six times and okay do it that three times and you're done with gold medal also evil protagonist mr hard luck and dorkstar good evening funny i i've never heard the game without music that's the uh the one thing oh yeah you used to uh i always end up turning the music off so i can usually put on other background music um that said i can d since we don't actually have background music ah if i was whatever [Music] yeah yeah so the two modes that are really good with nero 3 is destroy the drill because the team up or team up the away team is a super spinner so you get that double spinner it's like about like four million a shot which isn't bad it's a good value flip there you lit your locks got your buttons wow all right we're cool we're cool games i got your kickback back not what i wanted there we're fine we're fine all right so uh i don't remember can i post transfer on this i can't nice i've got it is a premium so it's better to just do that rather than a white team right because normally on the pro so the difference between the premium and the pro is you get that beautiful little kick out right there so you don't want to stack space jump in with a uh multiball so hit one shot and then do away team okay and then yeah after your white team it's literally the center shot and it's done okay so you just shoot the center and it's over i will do that you don't get a gold medal unless you hit a few shots before which doesn't make sense because you're doing what you're supposed to do and the game like punishes you for it but you know yep that's space jump okay space jump is done i'm fine with that they got save the enterprise bringing that one into a multiball that one can be worth a ton now i'm thinking about it i bet safety enterprise three is the warp ramp it's an away team left for missions that you uh normally want to escape from uh well until they do add 20 seconds so and uh space jump i'm pretty sure is the only one that actually finishes from an away team yeah it definitely is the only one so the only thing is is that if you drain once you away team then uh you advance mode uh dorkster i'm so sorry i i think i have always called you dorkstar oh i get that oh the pressure's on now it's fine there's no pressure there's no pressure i'm not feeling it there you go yeah you already got your outer ball lit too you really do want to away team this one though and you get to the the good points especially on yours where you can shoot the warp ramp over and over and over again i miss the uh old kobayashi where it was it was based on how well you did on the modest premature flip got it oh you nearly got both in there i think i i had already completed the mode wow did that light your kickback or was it already lit it was already lit oh that would have been cool i you never want to use it when you're in multiball trying to get that last target yeah set up your double super is that what that does no okay it's just so every shot you know the combos in this game are double okay so next one's super so you just want to shoot the center ramp before you take it and it'll be 10 million okay that's fine is that the center round yeah so now it's a combo and know i gave it to you so it'll be 10 million instead of five okay so explain the combos in this game by the way hey um every combo is like um just the next combo is double so any of the red flashing shots now it's just like whatever the shot value is double um i don't know if it's 4x or 3x if you hit a combo on a double shot i'm pretty sure it's just 3x i don't think it's that powerful okay so and that's why the uh that's why i saved the enterprise is bugged in this game and they've never fixed it is because every time you shoot the warp ramp the next warp ramp is also a combo oh okay i just every time you hit it it's a combo and then for some reason shooting the spinner doubles the value even like because it's two extra 003 or i think it's weird the scoring gets weird in this game sometimes emily and dr john welcome to the stream i know those people welcome to the one table that is actively hindered by having more than two balls snipey i'm not sure i understood that one there all right i don't even have my lock my multiball lit so uh besides i guess when you when you hit jackpots it usually makes sense to hit something to combo with that yeah and are there specific combos or is it any two shots you can combo uh it's just like any shot that comes after a shot i guess um oh i'm not seeing the ball well oh it's interesting you say that on not being able to see the ball well i know it's the most lit up play field in the world well i can adjust that i have a cool new topic oh yeah yes so this is uh this is the new neo xtremes from pin stadium oh nice yes and just give me a sec because we can do some fun stuff here with this it might not oh come on get connected of course i was connected earlier so we can go red on the play field if we want to we can kill this you got to get the uh the uh the pinball bar experience where you just turn every light off and then the flashers make you blind okay we could we can definitely darken it up a little bit while still allowing the uh the camera to see it and then we can adjust the brightness down here of this we can make it brighter a little darker god that red looks amazing let's keep it on the red i guess yeah let's keep it on the red uh gr bond welcome hi george and esther if you have three or more actively rolling you have a lot harder time actually hitting shots oh i mean at least i do i feel like when i have that many balls going we're playing our first games on godzilla right now emily and dr john congrats finally out to uh to australia that's gonna give me that one back oh wow this red is really weird is it weird yes okay all right we're doing five a little bit longer five seconds five seconds sorry just wait two seconds yeah hit the center ramp and then cradle off again and kobayashi will be ready all right let's hit center ramp combo it in to your trophies and and then let's do it yes so in tournaments for me for whatever reason i always struggle to go nero three but i get that there's a real like you can get much larger points yeah i i would never do it head to head you should never do it head to head okay if it's like a pump and dump where you get like two or three tries on a game or even limited qualifying uh you can do it pretty much like 30 percent of the time 40 of the time like effectively um and that's good enough odds for a uh what's a pump and dump qualifying but for head to head that's a little it's a little scary right but this is one of those games where in tournaments you need a couple hundred million a lot of the time [Music] your black hole is ready okay keep the knot you gotta keep an eye on it before you start because then you lose all your information right [Music] [Applause] yeah i don't know absolutely right that would have been the smart thing to do nearly had a uh jersey jack kicked back there just cruised right past we're gonna i could get it back maybe not you probably don't get it back in multiball your autobahn one shot oh that's the worst way you could have missed cause now you started a multiball without a mode oh no that's the worst case scenario there oh it wasn't even like you missed it into the center you missed it off of the target on the right so and of course i hit the the black hole immediately yeah wow the red light uh really adds really something yeah i hope this stream is enjoying this red light right now i mean the play feels very red as well so and your saturation's so high it is uh it's very red i remember when i first saw the uh the laser effect when i first saw this game pretty cool i'm pretty sure you accidentally just got a double super what no that was totally useful yeah you i was a sick double super thank you it was perfect all right hopefully not a doc's but curious how far apart you guys are five minutes down the road just down the road all right you know he's like oh do you want to do the like uh the battle stream i'm like yeah it sounds great and then he was like here's the address and i looked on google maps and they're like that good start good first game sure yeah i was looking at google maps and like damn he's like literally three blocks down yep so replay i've got to replay got the knocker turned off i try to turn off the knocker on all of the games just because it uh um if my daughter is here it can wake her up oh yeah fair enough it hasn't woke her up yet and i haven't had ghostbusters in here yet oh god the start button is lesson yeah start start button's a little a little off but that's okay it's fine so so then the other strategy is you start prime directive and then in prime directive you light your locks because you get the free upper flipper shots okay and then you bring in um kind of whatever you want nero is pretty good for multiball because it's all the stand up targets got it you go nero and then sometimes you can go nero three if you're still on ball one um or you can go space jump destroy the drill i think your double super ramp super spinner there's a lot of options you get i guess i'll just i'll start that way okay there was this awesome meta in this game that i don't think many people remember which is you would go to prime directive 3 and in prime directive 3 you would just shoot all the shots and then you would let it time out and back then prime directive three would reset all the shots but not reset the value of the shots so you could build it forever it was the most boring tedious meta ever but uh you could get a couple hundred million pretty fast okay i think it was big big scores yeah but like really boring like really boring only to be one up by the even more boring meta which is timing out all six modes to get to kobe kobayashi which is what uh yorian did at an expo oh sorry and what was that with all six modes so you would just sit there because there was no like the timer would never stop oh you didn't have to hit any shots you could just sit there and wait um and uh yorian from sweden was incredibly good at it of just like chilling where he like adhering to some sort of time-based component in which he like made the least amount of shots possible but somehow beat the the modes or was just yeah well he would just sit there and then he would shoot the scoop but then like he would always finish kobayashi every single time and then he would just play super ramps for the rest of the game i don't remember how or why because it's working differently it's the red light difference without the red lights i wouldn't have seen it us all killed you're too early for destiny sorry i moved it back we're good we're all lined up and it slides on your floor it was like doing a little slide and i was like whoa i am so worried when i get a p3 in here that the weight of it i'm just gonna tear my shoulders out because i'm so used to being able to slide the machines pretty pretty easily all right that's red i will give it that's very red i'm gonna switch it up maybe go a little bit more blue how's that let's just make everything red uh says snipey tries that's wait that's we're going to be available next week to help you replace your floor oh yeah hey i'm out of here on january 15th nice i'm excited because i have wood floors i'm going into oh i did it again i just started i wasn't even paying attention that's all right [Music] we hit the uh the one green icon and hit and i gotta you hit all three all part of the plan all part of the plan i love it when a plan comes together all right let's grab a left core bit to that shot totally got there yeah the other thing you can do is when you shoot the orbit from the right flipper you can just hold the flipper up and you usually get the bottom two oh and get the bottom two light locks yeah now can you stack all three locks at once yeah i believe so for the first one okay uh second one you can't you can only do two uh and then the third one i'm pretty sure you can only stack one at a time i don't think i've ever gotten to the fourth one see if you had the red light you would have saved it sorry if you get the red light you want to save it you know i'm saying if you had the red light on you would have saved that oh i would have totally yeah absolutely all right where am i at here space jump still can't hit the green light snipey thank you for keeping the color uh consistent we uh we we hit up scott from penn stadium a bunch last night asking him if he could give us uh if he could give us access through an api or something to change the colors on the neofusion because then i would give you guys the ability to control it [Music] geez that's a little mean you got the rubber on the inland out on the right makes the game so much harder sorry the rubber is on oh in the right outline huge difference yeah i left the top one in i thought i was being like i was yeah it's fair it's fair see now if i was playing by myself i'm gonna put those back on oh you took them off for me come on man all right here we see the star trek the tables colors give you heck learning the modes and the shots dodging the outlines and outlanes and their evil plots i'm sure this stream will see a win not getting to year is a sin snivy tries stream barred throwing down some wicked rhymes there uh which is the one that you don't want to upgrade because it makes you hit all of the the stand-ups that's nero okay so don't upgrade in hero got it well unless you're in a multi-part i don't think there's any mode that you shouldn't upgrade like even euro i think still upgrading it's not a bad idea okay um just because if you're upgrading euro usually you're doing it pretty early in your game so you're still working multi balls and stuff and it's like three targets for the gold medal okay and that's not bad which isn't bad at all especially if you go nearer three that's the other benefit you get is that nero the nero ii and nero three are both very easy to gold metal so then when you go into your metal collect for kobayashi you usually have a full set of bronzes and silvers at least and if you do everything right then you also have a full set of golds [Music] oh wow all right we're fine we're fine here i'm gonna hit this right nope totally totally got that orbit i'm gonna go leftover big oh all right finish your mode okay now you're going oh geez literally slap save to the outline nearly tilted because i did a little move um also i had an idea above a wi-fi capable app that would let anyone with app control the linked tables lights ooh now that would be kind of interesting that's coming back sorry what was that you got your double shot though you got your double value oh because it hit it and came back you got your combo before saying if you get a you get like a 2x from uh you got two extra nero you get a 2x from a combo and you got the super spinner as well as a super spirit for destroying the drill now it's like 15 million a shot that's good value well i guess it's 15 million for a combo got it [Applause] did not use your kickback that sucks yep thank you stern i didn't think it was going to do that because for me it saved my kickback engaging yeah you want to keep one so you know exactly when your super is ready okay because it'll turn off when you're super ready [Music] you back in there [Music] yeah i wasn't even close i was like play over all right you should have it you should have enough buttons now you want me to hit oh you got it i got it all right apparently i got it no you got double it man what are you doing ugh it's only five million that's not a stupid jackpot that's right i don't know you just told me about that like i gotta hit a shot and and combo into it all right nice you are cruising through these modes though i this is one of those games i've had this is the third time i've had this game i i love this game so fun and i end up missing it so eventually at the end i'm like you know what no this is this is my first le this has got to be that one um let's see here so you give the mods the link and they could shift lights i love it i would really love the idea of being able to change non-essential essential lights on the table itself so you could do something like core shutdown meta event where we turn out all the lights except your important modes that gets a little bit more complicated that was also something that uh nick the pinsomniac mentioned last night was like control of the the lights on the table so when you got to get the the p rock out right and actually just start you know your own game talking about lights not sponsored by the way [Laughter] so that is ryan's company right yes yes and i sort of work for him sort of like a little bit you know so work for him work for him or work for him in the same way that like when you're a big part of the when you're involved with the pinball community you usually help out on locations yeah well i mean he pays me and i was like i haven't worked the last time i worked there was last black friday because they were you know when when it's uh you know covered times you know people you know all of a sudden they're like you know maybe it's time we do a led redo of our game oh yeah you're stuck at home with nothing else to do it's finally time to get that project done and then it was also a black friday where they have a crazy sale right and uh yeah i think common had a good year in 2020 ivy tries has so many ideas for pinball tables and can't make one ah you'll get there you turn extra balls off i just realized i did not uh extra balls should be on right now i think extra balls default to seven or nine loops uh default is three uh like factory default i think the first thing i did was i set this back to factory default settings huh i'll take your word for it maybe i'm just remembering it wrong this is upper flip upper flipper cradle right yeah it's moving a little bit that's good timing out look at that uh kisco big fan of comet myself got around to finishing off all my games with comet bulbs this summer there you go unbiased opinion for me i love comet pinball i have never uh i've never actually oh i guess that's the other thing i did for com comic is because we have a lot of games that might at the barn um i counted a bunch of games just like for those kiss where i would just go through the light test replacing everything well not even a play just counting every single one okay um you know what the best one that was for counting uh pinball 2000s that was awesome because uh you can't read the screen without the glass on so i would have to every light i would have to like turn the glass or put the glass back on or like wow use a mirror did you break any of the glass nope wow have you ever broken a glass no but i was standing next to someone when they did at uh the world championships in italy they broke i want to say it was bonsai or dolly and i was like nice i was like standing right next to it and scared the [] out of me wow seriously if there's a place i can actually help out with cool ideas or good poetry i would love to know uh i'm not sure where a good place would be for um for actually it's probably just going to um so what's the pinball designing app where you can design tables and then virtually play them as you're designing them i don't remember um what's his name uh dead flip ended up doing a whole bunch of streams where he he did his design in that and got to play it a bunch kind of virtually that would probably be a really good place to start yeah visual pinball visual pinball there you go before the pinball company that shall not be named had that you know incident and is no longer functioning having a some of their ideas weren't so bad right but uh their execution you know being like the the money laundering thing you know besides the modern money laundering and whatnot yeah you know so i had some ideas so um yeah so that was like the one idea is we're not counting multiball i'm pretty sure a game could track the ball like just by every input or you should be able to like time game or like the game should be able to count every input and i don't know have you ever seen like uh what's that really popular uh track mania have you ever played track mania before uh i have never seen it no i don't know what that is uh it's uh super wow that sucks that does suck um it's a super popular uh like racing game and how they do replays is they just do every single input and like they track every input from a controller so like and by like a time stamp with it so they're super accurate and it's just like a just text file huh okay um i feel like you could do that for pinball too you just count every single switch in one time and then you then make a game so it can read that text file and then just no ball in the anything and just have it play it again handle it you know okay should be cool because then you could actually verify game scores i kind of like that like you're just talking about like a logging or an audit mechanism yeah exactly yeah you were um super skill shotting yep and then uh i actually bought 10 work ramps it's really weird oh because it's usually three or it's five actually all right we're one one feature first of all we'll turn the music no go back there's that yeah dirty back on yeah we'll turn the music on and then i'll turn uh the midnight off the midnight by the way allows you to play their music uh on stream oh nice all right so it's gonna be extra ball if you see it stop it i mean yeah we saw something extra ball extra ball auto auto huh i guess you're right maybe it's like a pro premium thing i don't know huh it's like i know for oh i always complained about it because it was like you would have four balls every game because it was you would get it like instantly yeah it always seemed like you'd get it really easy it could be also that i put on a game before you got here and i hit uh i hit uh warp 9.9 on it and i wonder if it's one of those calculations there's no way okay it might all right i'm sorry i'm gonna focus up here and not really oh my now you're gonna focus okay yeah i'm warmed up now i don't know like so your game's set hard especially without outlane rubbers [Music] so it's pretty tricky we can go through i have more outland rubbers the ones that were on there were just falling off it's a challenge okay well stream bar i have a lot of crazy ideas for pinball and stuff that i would love to set up stuff for live tables v-pins are cool but it's even cooler when you can do stuff at the table the problem is i literally know nothing about coding snivy the cool thing is that uh v-pin isn't isn't real coding uh it's um it's more of just setting up configuration files and that that goes for the p rock as well you're it's a lot less coding i think than than you'd think it's a lot more of like json and uh uh like json style configuration files stream bart is gonna head out got other stuff to do and probably bed to get ready for see you next time sniping have a great night man all right ah hey i'm going to try i'm going to try nearer through all right i'm doing it let's see it then yeah i did a little bit of pee rocking or at least you know a little bit i mean like actually a little bit like a probably like four or five hours in a day okay i'm like all right dad i want to look into this i know a decent amount of python now that i feel like i'll be able to like python you'll be able to use forever it is the language that everybody oh that was obviously intentional yeah you meant to do that yeah um to feed so you can hit the green targets here yes good call light that that's that's what i was you you mentioned it earlier that's me trying to hit it surprise you didn't get any progress for that um oh this is the one where you got to hit all those targets yeah well you just shoot lock targets here that's all you should be doing so you want to get your multiball ready for nero 2. uh so in the academic community that's not gonna help uh everybody learned just enough python to do like basic analytics with r and things yeah so python has become ridiculously popular yep uh yeah so i just had like had one class with it and uh i was like dad i want to try p rock and he's like okay s o you're just gonna have to read through this and he puts on like a 600 page directory i started reading i read like probably 20 pages in it and i'm like i can't do this i there isn't enough medication to go through and do this yeah exactly [Music] we were watching which was iron maiden stream and after i moved my outland posts as small as possible i asked for usher poster and said they removed them well i didn't remove them i watched my uh for our whopper fest tournament where we just my dad needed to make it in the state finals so he was like okay i'm just gonna run tournament at the barn [Laughter] and it was for that and it was also for donovan and myself to qualify for world championships okay um yeah that was great uh i won i won one dino one two and so and my dad top four than a lot of them um outlaw pinball gang welcome to the stream also outlaw pinball just put up a uh a cool new website outlaw if you uh i don't have something with a link already on it you should definitely put up a link to your website i'm guessing it's just outlaw pinball.com uh but there's some cool shirts there and an opportunity i think to win a pinball machine right now damn i gotta get in on that yeah but uh yeah so for that tournament we had iron maiden but our iron maiden all the feeds were set like perfectly so like you could hold the flipper up into the drop track it's for a safe return and if you didn't flip it was a bounce through a cradle and out of the scoop because it was premium so we're like okay we need to not make this play forever so we turned off you know we set it on the hardest possible settings turned off uh can i play with madness that was before it was a default and a bunch of other stuff on it to make it like impossible and uh that was my favorite game at that time so i still played a ton of it um it um when i had it i kind of want to it's funny because i i've been looking at um uh man adams here local in um uh around this area is selling his led and i'm like i'm kind of thinking about it but i can't stand the music but i'm still kind of thinking about it and i don't know the pro i would never listen to an iron maiden song in my life before the pinball machine before the pinball well and that was the other thing you know i didn't like um i didn't like metallica i still but now i can stand listening to metallica yeah well it's not like i didn't even like metallic i just didn't know anything but now i can tell you um eight of their songs um but yeah i know iron maiden is one of the it's one of the best games like ever especially to own it's it's fun for sure you can hit it oh was black was like that's not right could not hit the uh in between the two rants and buffalo soldier 929-9229 thank you so much for that follow my uh my my hat's off to you and welcome i suddenly want to listen to some uh to some reggae nice save but yeah when we had my uh iron maiden set that way i got so good at playing iron maiden the most cowardice way that you could play the most what way pulling like a coward doing everything as safe as possible that's probably my most proud game i ever got is i nearly got run to the hills without outlane posts in lane rubbers or extra balls with no ball saves in multiball or regular i was uh one sole chart away i got a 3.8 billion game i think that's probably my best game i've ever had in pinball like everything went perfect if i got to run to the hills that would have been it wasn't recorded or anything but oh wow well that was a question if you had an ally rubber that would have lived you would have lived that now kisco's put a couple of games on his iron maiden yeah we got iron maidens at about the same time and i sold mine i actually i attempt traded with colorado pinball for three oh yes and uh and then kept it for another three months after that so i think i had it for roughly about nine months before i got rid of it but i also replaced all the music on it with cake uh and if i had to do it again i think i would go back and do like a mix of uh of like poppy girl music throw some britney spears um i really want that uh she came in like a wrecking ball song on there i think i'd have a lot of fun with it that way that or just throw a queen on there yeah the one at penn bird oh i saw that and that's the that's kind of the dream like i didn't realize that queen would go so well on that pinball machine see i'm not a i'm not a huge fan of the uh well so i'm only not a huge fan of the change roms because we when we bought our walking dead it came with the changed one and it crashed like six times in a row when i got to horde and i was like so sad every single time like there was just something it wasn't even like the it was just ours and then we swapped it back to the original code it was fine okay now i've always been anxious with the uh with the changed uh things you know sorry to change to what they changed so like the one at lions has the uh jurassic park one where it's changed all the video clips and uh so the thing to do there at least the the way that i've always assured myself that uh that i wasn't gonna damage anything was i just get another another sd card yeah nice save oh now i'm curious escher can you confirm whether or not i have a tilt bob on this yes there you go confirmed by usher i have tilt bob i hit the camera that good good enough yeah just timing this out i want to get my save the enterprise wrong what is the correct way to set a tilt bob type that as you said that so ear plug yeah escher was immediately like how many do you have earplugs uh on your on your pinball i did like a move on this when i played like my one ball and it was still shaking a minute and a half later when i was like hey do you have an earplug yeah so apparently i need to go get some earplugs i don't know man earplugs are really expensive more than 70 cents each exactly pretty steep that's a that's a not an insignificant amount of money to to mod your pinball machine yeah if you get them in bulk they're probably like eight cents each wow right off the bat no hesitation whatsoever first shot opened it up hopefully i can do the thing as they say do all the things there you go okay so then you shoot the spinner oh i saw my atta ball but if i don't have a ball cradle this doesn't do me much good damn might as well go while i got the chance oh so outlaw pinball says explain the earplug didn't catch it the first time if you can uh so the earplug you just stuff it in the ring above the the tilt bob yeah it makes it things a little uh things makes things a little less tilty uh but the uh it like fills in all that air so then it's like pushed up against something so it stops swinging right um because like the earplug expands so you condense it into like like a little like pebble basically but then it like gets bigger and then like puts pressure on it so then when you do a move it shakes for like five seconds but for tournaments it's you gotta do it because people waiting two minutes after the other person does a slide save is the most boring thing ever right and the two minute waiting doesn't actually do anything you gotta wait five minutes for a non-ear plug yeah um it keeps going that long so this is a psa like right now if you don't have ear plugs on your games and you want to run a tournament or you want to improve the quality of your games buy your plugs right now and put them in your games they should be mandatory for tournaments now when's ifpa gonna do that make it mandatory on every game by the way hey fliptronic hey dice hey dr curly tech welcome to the stream uh i've got a lock there and an away team i think i'm gonna go away team first nope i mean i'm gonna go lock first nope is that lock two i'm not sure that's a good point i should probably get into a multi bed first oh that's right i was gonna do nero yeah nero here is good i'm just trying to get the extra ball but my my flipping is a tad premature uh it should be i think it's one yeah okay we got we got we got some time [Music] electronics says uh how quick did escher destroy your current dc george uh he made the game so hard i like opened it up so escher mentioned the other day that i had to get in there and uh adjust the um the leaf switches on the left flipper it was a little off and i could totally feel it after he pointed it out otherwise i had no idea i just don't know well yeah uh so the it's the end of stroke on the flipper right it's very easy to tell if your inner stroke is bad um because if you're holding a flipper up and the ball comes and the flipper gives out like even a little bit like it flicks then that means your end of stroke is bad okay and it's such an easy fix most of the time you just put a piece of paper in you clamp it and you just pull it twice or three times okay and that just like cleans it enough that it works again okay worst case is you replace the switch which is like four dollars yeah not a big deal yeah it's not much and at that point if you're already in there might as well just rebuild the flipper so i was in there doing that and i'm like oh look there's a couple of rubbers that are like falling apart and i didn't have any rubbers up here they had all fallen off oh man so i put the rubbers in up there and i pulled the ones off of the the inlane uh the the just above the end lanes and i'm like well usher's coming over i need to balance it i should probably just take those just leave them off they were barely doing anything anyways yeah and uh when i was working for ryan in uh boulder when i was like helping him before he bought lions his star trek on location the rubbers they were the most like it was sad really just like how destroyed these things were and the game what was like one of the lower played games like it wasn't like a popular one and these like rubbers were absolutely just destroyed right uh so catching back up here i request a photo in discord please oh of the uh i'm guessing you're talking about a a photo of the earplugs jedi mcmuffin raiding with a party of three jedi you are amazing thank you so much my hat's off to you you guys if you're not following jedi mcmuffin you should be wonderful streamer high quality excellent chat engaging as heck on the pinball network definitely give them a follow if you haven't done so and uh all right i've stuffed a bunch of earplugs into my speaker grills all that did was make the game sound like crap instructions instructions unclear salty y'all's camera for your stream is so nice the quality is nice you can actually see the details in the playfield salty thank you so much yeah he's ruined it for the rest of us [Laughter] and i get what like to upload oh oops we're a little bit far over we're we're pretty close we're close i didn't realize i was already uh doing a little bit of uh trending location playing as they say um yeah he's ruining it i got like 1.5 upload at my old house and i get flamed and just like why is your stream at 569 uh resolution and i'm like i don't know man i just set the bit rate to like some number that i found the level or it wasn't i wasn't dropping frames but it was still it was like 1896 i think that's also why i'm real hesitant to move to certain areas of colorado there are areas that just that don't have decent uh decent internet to upload just like that was when i was satellite internet at my parents house i moved out uh here and uh i get not fiber but whatever comcast xfinity does uh i get like 500 now uh download i don't even know my upload your upload if you're on comcast is probably going to be 40. which is more than i would ever need or want you say that now yeah but wait until we can start streaming at 4k yeah don't hold your breath on that one all right i don't know if that's on maybe you should swap to youtube and then if youtube does update then you can actually stream in 4k that's actually yeah by the way you guys uh escher also streams under exactly kisco steve o pub uh if somebody can do a shout out uh ex a shout out space steve oppa i've been streamed in like eight months man it's been a while you've also you you yeah dude you you killed it when you were streaming and it's i would love to see you stream more often yeah i said you were in my chat very early on i remember you were there on my walking dead i remember you in chat i honestly i i i watch a lot of pinball all right i haven't watched as much as i used to i i lurk a lot i lurk until someone asks a very niche question about a pinball rule set and then maybe i'll stop lurking oh no we got this we got this we're going to go there to there so i actually really like the game like it is awesome i love it because i can shoot the left orbit or the like right orbit that was just laziness on my part yeah i like cactus canyon because i can as long as i can find the uh left orbit and i can post pass left to right i don't have to shoot any other shot in the game just do that over and over and over i just get like build bonus and then i win the game because i shot the leftovers more than my opponent than other people very fun and and intuitive and interactive it is it's a it's a lot of fun thank you so much outlaw pinball that's appreciated so uh i'm not on the list right now to get one that said um once i get rid of so i'm getting rid of ultraman and i also have a uh a guardians of the galaxy it's impossible to death save on your floors sorry so it's challenging it is it's like we need to get over here to death save on that yeah you could probably bang back but i don't want to do that fliptronic is getting is getting one okay yeah oh nice jedi so uh i had to work on my gopro so my my gopro um the battery swelled up oh inside of it and it got stuck and then it was having issues with the battery and i went to go pull it out it got it started falling apart so i went in there and turned it off and i'm like it's cool we'll just jab it with a metal stick and see if we can get it out it started leaking or no it never leaked but i did mess with it for an hour and eventually was able to get it out and the camera seems to be doing perfectly the camera came with the pack i got with three batteries so i have two spares okay is this ball two uh yes okay hmm i think the name of this game is uh suck less i got everything ready you gotta watch out man okay well i've got i got an extra ball coming up i think i'm at warp seven i think you're one or two away yeah i played cactus canyon at expo it was on the floor oh and what'd you think um i wasn't impressed but it was only because uh it's the same remake issue i have with like attack for mars and all the other ones which is the flippers don't feel right it just doesn't feel right yep um it's just it's just there's just something up with it i you know like just like like i cannot play um attack from mars's uh remix like the game it's just i can't do it um it's probably because i have a you know original at my house that i've been playing my entire life right um okay so you're in nero in a multiball but what else did you set up uh nothing i was okay i want to get some you were just messing with my head kind of like when we were playing against fliptronic and you wanted me to continue putting up points after we had one to mess with them yeah it's it's a pinball is a mental game man it's very much a mental game it is almost completely immense again do a little intentional draining to feed the upper flipper that's fine don't really need i don't really care about jackpots i'm just here for uh wright island selling ultraman already i i can't i can't the issue isn't uh ultraman would have already been gone if if there was interest in in if there was interest from other people mpt 3k rating with a party of 34. damn oh my god manu how you doing how was your stream uh i normally never try to stream over manu but we had a uh a scheduling switch up dude so sorry we started at roughly about the same time tonight and manu i hope your stream was awesome flavor tester first time chat coming in with mpt 3k on a raid you're amazing thank you again my rave coming in from evil peaches that is it's a my rave going on right now becca how you doing i can't handle all this change george uh don't panic flip has now been banned from tv i know over just to stream on top of a uh another another tpn streamer um all right where am i did a goonies duel oh a goonies duel with frisco oh my god and frisco is such a i see what you're doing here esher you're you're going for that extra ball all right you got the extra ball okay you know all the points and i forgot that i'm not very accurate on yours i'm not sure why i'm just a little off uh but i can seem to hit your uh side ramp pretty good okay i'm just going to keep shooting that because good things happen exactly i agree i can shoot it eight times in a row and get into a multiball oh yeah nine point six you are two three away uh four i think okay you gotta get you gotta reset it got it okay i believe i could be wrong uh john durbin still hi welcome and uh so nice of usher to let george hang out on his channel yes exactly i haven't been playing well tonight oh and manu was sporting a don't panic flip shirt i would be supporting his but i i wore it last night before yeah i nearly got it saved that time i was the closest if i flipped better i would have gotten it and keep messing up your camera it's fine it's fine ooh are we ready to no no we're gonna keep it i think the blue actually looks pretty good yeah it looks good the blue does look good i should set it to have it changing every like 30 seconds or so all right 14 million to 7 117 no biggie i got this we're just going to loop this shot a few times [Music] nice all right let's grab that extra got it and we're in double scoring so let's hit this lock shot i don't know what which which multiball this is uh i'm sorry which lock of the that should be it should be two yeah it's definitely that should be two so okay so that's two yeah uh the uh just have pinball jones on their star trek i got like 270 million in klingon multiball on that one because you can warp decent on it and if you start 2x with it like one double super because like the regular super's already a double super and it's super easy to hit on a combo like you kind of have to hit it on the combo because it's a side ramp and then you get 2x playfield running and the scoring gets pretty insane for it give me that shot game i'm trying i'm trying i'm saying what is going on so are you saying you're getting rid of your ultraman or wasn't yes couldn't you didn't like it or you just got tired of it already i don't like owning a game i can't get rid of and there's just no interest in it unfortunately but new code is coming out right they just announced today that they're pushing out new code this week maybe that changes things so when they update the code for ultraman is it directly connected to halloween or do they have to up update each one individually so are they different or they're the same this time they're both coming out at the same time and they are both are the same rules are the rules the same i have no idea because if they're the same then they can just re-skin it right but uh they're not the same then come on hit that shot there it is there it is a sushi george wait i like sushi what did someone say sushi and how to calibrate your aim on a new game asks kisco uh and uh yeah so it comes down kinda to like the main thing that you have to watch out for is that if you just set your games to the same steepness like all of them um personally i like putting mine back legs all the way up front legs all the way down um because steeper it is the more fun it is usually especially because the only games that we own at my house are all keith ellen games because they're always got the rule sets that are worth owning like the super in-depth ones um so as long as you keep the steepness relatively consistent and it's at your house that will make transitioning from like jurassic park to godzilla a lot easier um you got to also be careful for flipper hops and all that um and whereas if you are struggling then i mean you just got to keep playing on oh it is one it's nice i always thought yeah okay that makes sense because it's 20. so you're eating sushi last night you said oh i was eating sushi where'd you get sushi from uh i go to nori's yeah so i was like super hungry like i hadn't eaten all day and my roommate was like taking a week off of work and i was like you want to get sushi and he was like yeah sure so i saw i just went to doordash and i was like what's the best what's the best sushi around here because i didn't really know it was like nori was the highest rated by a lot nobody is great man their their uh presentation is just awesome well i mean i got mine ordered so okay a little little it was a little disappointing but uh happy to say that i uh definitely spent more than i should have for doordash but they're just eating out for the entire week in one night so doordash is like that though man yeah you pay for the for the knot it wasn't even the door dashes that was the sushi that was uh putting me back there's a 25 million super 4x super as you combo to any ftr exploit field running you're probably going to catch me here let's see where you at oh yeah you already caught me okay you got 100 million just like that yeah only four cans yeah now all right so this is where i want to double down right and and get in your head yeah okay this is like an actual tournament see that's the thing uh my dad has uh kind of coined is uh just like straight up conceding in tournaments especially when you live in colorado and you have to play against you know zach mccarthy competing is a great uh great you guys you've got star mode first man you're you're lucky oh my god yeah no that's perfect exactly dude zach is so good like in brisbane and black rose hey man i conceded on that zero chance i i could play that black rose a hundred times and i wouldn't even come halfway that's my name's colin urban right and he starts three ball you know black and throws that well no okay so you start two ball multiball and then you lock two balls and you go into three ball multiball and then every shot you hit during that multiball you get a sink ship letter and every eight letters you get a ship first one's 20 30 40 50 and then they're 50 million over and over and over and over again okay um now it's good if you think two ships in a game a good score on black rose is more than 50 million um okay so colin did what anyone would do and start three ball multiball and then shoot the same ramp 50 times in a row and then now he has eight sink ships ready to go and he's already at 400 million i haven't even played ball one yet and i was like okay you win let's move on and just concede i i've gone like 500 million on black rose once and i was on location where like extra balls were on and colin is on ball one and he still has five ships ready to sink like ready to go like i it was it was over like there was zero chance that i was going to win that game and it works well it was a strikes tournament and he had to beat me the next three games so and the thought there on conceding is don't don't let it get in your head more of like that and it was also like past midnight and i was ready to go to bed uh game club central thank you so much for the follow uh yeah that is and uh john durbin still derbin still john thank you so much for the follow also i think i missed out on some serious chat there i definitely heard mpt3k coming in oh man and i am so sorry i missed out on what must have been an awesome battle with frisco because we all know that frisco is a major goonies fan but uh manu thank you so much for that raid only four cams how ghetto hurts that five it's one again he's ruined him carl it's like it's awful because then everyone else wants to stream and they're like oh escher why is your quality 596p and i'm like i'm sorry maybe you know maybe go watch a don't panic flip stream and enjoy your 1080 with all your cameras there we go oh and it's uh john durbin from st louis got it okay smaug smog i don't know why i any time i see smough i feel like i have to over pronounce the heck out of it yo yo and a bottle of rum thank you so much for joining us and thank you for that follow you're amazing my hat's off here manu told me to come not really okay no no yeah listen to my new manu knows what he's talking about and the best part of his about that conceit now i'm thinking about it is that i demolished him on the next game that's usually how it goes man that's got to be like a reverse mind game you put that up and you're like all right i want to see somebody try and fail to meet that yeah instead you take it away from them yeah well to be fair i beat him in like a really weird way which is we're on deadpool and uh i do you know like the like the little loop combo into the target like in single ball play what's the most you've ever gotten in that um i don't know yeah so i was actually in the same boat as you where i didn't know because i didn't care because it was never more than like 10 million okay um and i was just playing the game i you could snicked on that one like every time right um but there was no inland rubber so like or in lane post like the post was out oh the post was yeah okay so it played very tricky but because you could sneak every time it didn't play that tricky um and then i like must have done something perfect because when i did my combo it was 600 million or like 500 million it was like insane okay um colin mcalpine was in chat uh do you know kaylee with a k like k-e-l-y-e in chat k-e-l-y it's kaylee but with a k with a k yeah oh that's colin no that's uh what's his uh nick from australia oh but he was streaming it uh i feel like i do know that name he's in chat a lot okay like if he like typed in chat right now and said like what's up i would not be surprised he's a really cool dude great player um i played against him multiple times when i was in australia both times i was there oh and that's right you went to australia somewhat recently to play in a tournament there right uh well or was it to hang out with somebody it was more for that and i just chose a time that i could play in the tournament and the only reason i know about that is because your dad mentioned it on a podcast really yes if i don't remember if it was final round or if it was pinball profile probably from pinball profile okay it was one of the two and he talked about you going to australia to hang out with a friend yeah uh i think most people have we've been dating for what over two years now uh i mean emily carson from australia that's awesome so and she's actually coming here in 25 days ooh very cool so you got the countdown going huh yeah well she just told me this morning so okay so i know off the top of my head uh it's the day after christmas so very awesome uh also flip stream is getting godzilla tomorrow congratulations flipstream good choice awesome game and it's a premium too nice yeah we're still waiting on our premium that's funny uh it's funny the constants actually got their premium before we got ours i realized i only started one player i blame the button and not myself okay yeah it was definitely the button it's a it's a very touchy start button that is true john german oh hey john durbin st louis now i would know it's st louis i don't even have to think about it tess it works his little hands [Laughter] uh you can modify your capital letter capital looks good yes it does oh my god you don't know how many times i've gotten into trouble more from manu mpt 3k than anyone else just reading the things that he types you get into this habit of like i just read out loud what everybody says and then i respond to it afterwards so it adds context and i'm not just like yep because there might be a bunch of questions on there uh and i end up getting in trouble so often but nobody gets me in trouble more than either audrey or manu i'm sorry don't remove it so yeah if you do neuro 3 right it's uh really uh it takes a lot of concentration right okay so i need to be working on distractions now yeah actually i want to see you hitting i want to see it blow up yeah see that's where you just gotta play enough like me where you don't even have to think like you've done all the see that's the thing that i think i do different than our people is when i play for fun i play for points yeah that i i struggle with that oh man i'm i'll i'm gonna get it one time what rank uh do you know where you are on the ifpa ranks i don't know i think after whenever they submit expo um which is hopefully okay we're klingon battling all right uh yeah i think i'm six uh but after actually i'll be fourth unless it's a long enough time that other things happen like maybe another district 82 where they hand out another couple thousand walkers well i mean total okay but no even so that's all i mean like haley got 300 something raymond got a couple hundred like it was no joke wow all the people there yeah maybe i could make a uh when i'm home i'm gonna be home on the weekend maybe i will make a minute and 30 long i'll make a youtube shorts as they say okay and i can just do explain the ear plug and why you need to put it in your game i would love to see that actually because even when you described it you said it like cut it lengthwise put it on do you tape it or does it just sit in there okay i think you put a slit in it cut it lengthwise put a slit in it yeah so the earplug is about or where's the camera so it's like that big and then you cut it like down the middle right um yeah so that's the other thing is it's kind of it kind of comes down to the game and how centered it is and the steep there's a lot of things this is your game kills you off of misses mor e than most star treks specifically when when i miss i don't know man i've been actually yeah no no the same it's about the same for me ew there's three people better in the world can we get them on the channel george there we go we need we need escher to step it up a little bit you know who you need to get on this channel you need to get what's his name uh angler who paul is that wait what's it what's his name something angler someone look him up go to you literally click youth on ifpa and he is the first name there because he is ranked 14th in the world i think okay uh and he's like 14. oh my gosh i think it's paulie and alert if so many notifications going on right now oh yeah the uh the amount of pinball machines locally that have uh that that have gone up or said wow nice saying i should have tilted that see if it if it was earplugged that would not definitely not have tilted um but that's how it should have been right because the only reason i i would have tilted the first time is because i already did a move and it was a while ago you know it's like 10 seconds so because all it does is it makes the tilt bob settle more that's it yeah it's not stopping the tilt bob from moving it just doesn't move as much yeah i did it again okay that's okay i don't even know there's a super skill shot on this game this mode's fun i like this move yeah if you can if you can hit that yeah i'm it's funny it feels like i think everybody when they first played this game played a star trek where you were able to just loop it and then every other like as time went on it got harder and harder right because i haven't played a star trek where i've been able to easily lift a ramp in years so okay and uh free gold watch uses the earplug method at uh for all of their tournaments good choice yeah i will recommend uh your games for tournament play now that's enough information for me to go off of wow that sucks actually it adds time it doesn't suck that bad oh and i'm only two easy targets away as long as you have the target in between the side ramp and the left ramp uh i don't really oh sorry what was the significance of the target i'm just saying for my atta ball for this multiball is i i burn i missed my start and oh i got like one try at this shot um now if you miss that you don't get the third ball right tomorrow you don't get the like 15 seconds of ball save got it that's the main thing that [Music] you do get another ball but smaug says i notice a lot of you play tables at low volume is that just for chat or is there some copyright reason yeah a lot of times it can be copyright for me i'm metallica i'm playing pinball guys i know why did you have to give me a copyright strike on my 300 follower twitch channel you guys are not i don't like you metallica oh i don't want metallica you're fine you're what's it called your label sucks sorry no i hate i hate their label i just want to be able to loop the ramp right now because it's worth like potentially hundreds of million man 9.6 for that one it doubles every time [Music] [Applause] oh kind of like instinctively went for the regular button and was there to dodge [Music] it's a big shot good to know just started and want to watch the strikes yeah that's something um can you hit the button for me yes i can thank you yeah your extra ball is lit you got it and you're in double scoring yep [Music] looks older than the batman 66 in his basement his dad yeah it's probably so i got like a little scarf i've been shaved in a while um here we can we can really zoom in zoom in i haven't bothered because i've been wearing a mask the majority of my you know like when i go to school i wear a mask when i go and play on location i wear a mask uh i you know i don't want to catch the covet do you know miss mini assassin yeah i've seen her before suggested you shave it yeah what are you gonna do about it luscious locks on the hair can oh yeah i haven't i haven't cut my hair in about four months either not because that's like covered yeah we'll go with that and it's not because i'm lazy about it yeah no idea who that miss mini assassin person is yeah by the way welcome miss midi assassin aren't you like in a tournament or like going to be in a tournament or is that later oh yeah you said it was on saturday she's playing godzilla for the first time okay their dad and i they have a launch party or something on australia okay they don't really have covet like we do i mean they've been catching up it's uh they they also had a had a hard like they weren't allowed to leave their homes oh yeah yeah their lockdowns were they were they were really locked down yeah especially lockdown's only worked for so long eventually you gotta oh it's just practicing today well if you need any uh advice on on that game i know a few things he does know a few things that was awesome you put up 1.8 billion uh on the uh on the final game when we were oh that was mean it sucks too because my warm-up game that day would have been would have been way better yeah i was on pace for uh i had extra ball ball one i was at 1.2 billion john durbin wants to know how come five dams wasn't in your how to stream pinball series yeah man come on and how about how to uh get comcast to extend their um coverage by another uh quarter mile how about that one oh yeah can i have a tutorial on that please so i can not have to do satellite energy like t walrus wants to see a backhand challenge no crosshand uh if you want a backhand challenge you should play mandalorian because every time you play the game it's a backhand challenge that's a game i may end up getting that again at some point well if you really like you need to practice backhanding shots uh i know a game for you okay uh it's man it's it's what it's mandalore mandalorian it's funny uh all of a sudden i couldn't backhand um i couldn't backhand either ramp actually the the flippers uh would lose power so drastically after a few minutes i could no longer backhand the left ramp and the right ramp for whatever reason geometry or yeah something i could do it when i first got the game and could never backhand it after that nope kisco no all right isn't one that matters no i i still cut it even when it mattered can we win a stern supreme pin here no no that hundred thousand yeah man uh thai boy exclamation point giveaway in chat to get in on the stern security it will every make sure you post it multiple times because that increases your chances it's like it's like youtube right so like the more the more um yeah the more comments you get the more like yeah yeah make sure you guys get on that also exclamation point drops that's everyone's favorite right exclamation point drops yeah when there's like twitch streams with drops everyone uh there's they're like oh i want my drops for this you know like for like league of legends those drops yeah and it's like it's just watching two hours and you get them but people like how much type extra extra money for drops you want it was closed it was a very close game you got a replay though hey you wanna swap it up you wanna go first i'll go first all right all right so i'm gonna try wait so that was the nero that was the nero three right that game for me it was okay oh if i got to kobayashi with toex playfield that would have been sick i want to do that kobayashi with 2x playfield well it was also a 2x play for the nero 3. so i had a full set of golds so it would have been really good because i got a gold on all three of my neros so i only had to get a gold on half of my other modes right to get a full set and it's like 20 million so oh there's colin mcauliffe lying in chat hey cullen yeah i was just talking about uh that uh on deadpool in australia i remember you you were you saw it where i hit a um like uh the like the combo jackpot for like 500 million i had no idea what i was doing but i've never seen anything like it oh that was you gotta go for the death save man i do not dead stain ever no dead saves i mean i still get i still get in flame for my like i was like the first one to run to the hills on iron maiden was my stream and i did one death save on it and it was on ball two and i had an extra ball so i didn't really need it but i had been going for it for a couple days so i was like i'm just gonna keep going and i got it the next ball but still still yeah 5x snicked all day uh what was that colossus jp you got 500 mil yeah it was something like that god i love jurassic park i should have my jurassic park next week it ships out i guess you said that last week well the guy that it was uh serif reading with a party of three thank you so much sarah if you're amazing speaking about jurassic park there will be a battle with serif at some point soon and he mentioned yesterday saying that uh what was it it was a a reference to uh jeopardy it was a serif will win it will beat don't panic flip in this game and it was uh what is jurassic park the the question whereas what is raiding uh john durbin when someone else is streaming uh so we have a few people watching us right now and when we're done streaming uh i'll show a commercial we'll say goodbye and then afterwards we'll end up sending all of the people watching this stream to another stream so i'll go online see who's streaming if there's someone on tpn i'll typically raid them or if i haven't raided somebody in a long time oh man you almost got a natural one yeah we'll end up finding somebody who maybe uh hasn't been rated in a while or maybe somebody new and we'll send all these people over there and it's a great opportunity to get uh to to get viewers from one stream checking out somebody else you might get some follows who knows you might find something unique over there something you really enjoy so it's it's all about kind of paying it forward oh this goes here uh or maybe a new guy trying to get on tpn smaug exactly that's it stream you're right it's okay it's just more than anything it's disorienting okay yeah i remember uh i was like i had like 30 followers i think i was streaming in uh 240p i was playing uh what was it game of thrones and buffalo pinball rated me for like 160 viewers that i didn't have notice on so i didn't know until that day oh that stinks i thought that i had noticed on but i had no one in my chat so i didn't even know that my chat wasn't working and it was i was like i was like 13 though it was like 12 or so i was like really young don't oh no i just admitted to it oh they're gonna delete my account what's that yeah no i need you to re-admit again whatever oh yeah i mean so they've been doing that to people is if um you made your twitch account before you were 13 they will just ban you permanently and disable your account you just they won't ban you for making a new account though got it um i made my twitch account when i was 10 i believe uh maybe no that's my old one i don't know i made it a long time ago but i was definitely not of the allowed age okay i didn't realize that there was a minimum age smaug who is mpt is that like pbr and yes it's just like ppr it's also a mystery pinball theater you know uh theater and magic actually had a center post what yeah really uh do you know uh nick wayne the wayna's you might know mark wayne now because he designed scared stiff and e500 okay but at their house they have a prototype theater magic that has a post down yeah so there's the target on the left the poof target that does absolutely nothing but in the a very old code and the prototype it would put up the center post for like three seconds okay so it was the center post that was uh that could go up and down uh no it was just like you hit the target it goes up and it for like three seconds kind of like family guy shrek except not for that long it was mostly pretty useless i mean it was kind of cool because it's like wow um you know i really enjoy the uh the crazy outlane ball catch uh on on those uh on those John Papadiuk games you know what my favorite thing is uh rolling stones premium we need more games like that what anyone else wants some great takes from escher tonight because that's one of my best ones there we go you heard it here from right here we need we need another rolling stones premium that's what we need most people actually probably haven't played it because there's not many lions had an le for a very long time it was great it was the most skillful pinball out there because if you did everything right the ball would never drain even if you missed uh if you don't know rolling stones premium they had this awesome idea um what they did is what uh they had to do in europe for the longest time and because europe they outlawed pinwall because it was like gambling so they had to add skill buttons which are second buttons on the flippers okay and they put um out uh posts above the outlanes and the center posts or the center punches the outlines and then they would be connected so you could block the outlanes oh okay they have that on bmx and something kind of similar yeah where you have a temporary way to get rid of your outlane and on tv too and then on rolling stones premium they're like yeah let's just do that and but they let's also put center posts when you hit them both together at the same time what's up with center post okay um i have never played a premium then well you're not missing out on much [Laughter] actually it's not true it is a unique experience i will give it that and playing for a very long time is fun sometimes not always but nah that's why i couldn't keep lord of the rings a game is really fun and then you get to valinor and then it's time to you know there's not bowen got to valinor twice in one game on mine really a long time ago it's funny i uh um a friend of mine is a uh is a math professor oh yeah and uh when i got my first pinball machine she's like hey you know i know somebody uh a really good friend of mine who also happens to be really impatient like that's cool you should send me his info at some point and she did and it was like three or four months later i checked it out and uh and at that point i knew enough to know like oh there's this guy who does all these videos and i'm like that's weird he's got the same name that my friend mary told me about yeah uh bowen used to uh make or he made uh textbooks i think like i think he made what he's some sort of school textbook yeah i think i think he is a math professor or something along something like that yeah i don't know for sure i'm like it's a very small world actually yeah i had a very similar experience happen to me like that um we had it wasn't like a friend it was like someone was like we're like no selling our house maybe we were selling your house someone was like having a look at our face having a look at our house and they're like oh yeah we have a friend that's like really into pinball uh or like a relative it was a relative i'm like oh yeah who is it but you probably know them and i was like oh uh i don't remember his name but i know his last name it's henderson i'm like oh my god it's josh henderson my nemesis from you know my entire life okay well not now we're friends but you know like yeah i aspired to be when i was growing up because i was ethan blonder quit right before i was getting decent not a lot of people know who ethan blonder is i do not know yeah same people that don't know who neil schatz is chats i'm familiar with yeah uh so ethan blonder uh kid player incredibly good like in insanely good oh that tilted that's a slap you can't you can't have tilted because i'm not i'm not done with the camera stuff oh i even realized wait so hold on wait if i'm here and you're there i was just uh i skied there we go okay now we set it to go back to rotating but now we're a little bit more centered your locks are tilted now yeah you and your fancy camera remote yes uh math curriculum for teachers and then travels to teach the teachers how to use the mathematics that's cool all right now we've got to get that extra ball yep so we just got to loop this like nine times there's one yeah yeah so uh ethan blonder he was a kid player he was incredibly good especially like old pinball like pre-videos um yeah he was like one of the best and he was pretty young he was like 16 17. um kind of like foreshadowing for what pinball has turned into now which is all these damn kids in the top ten ruining my ruining yours nah you meant to do that obviously yep um yeah oh i just thought that was funny because it was you're still pretty young yeah no i'm saying it's like making fun of uh people that uh complain about it oh i was your multiball too that was a bad time to drain man you should not miss next time just keep going yes i'm just not gonna miss next time yeah if you could do that yeah you might see better outcomes no last game last game is definitely the good game i was i was finding shots that time how many more do i need to hit i hate this bottom target because it's i nearly just messed up the gopro the eighth time in a row [Laughter] there we go the stitch welcome to the stream good to see ya get off my line i would have won too if it weren't for you pesky kids oh [Laughter] and survived it just perfectly that just vibrated right out there yeah don't need to worry about glare if i can't see the playful thing about that i think i just came out with a great business idea it's a glare protector but it just covers the entire play field what think about it if you don't can't see the ball or the play field then there isn't glare that's just you're you you've erased glare yeah i know i fixed the problem um have you ever seen have you ever gone to the old papa rest in peace papa no i have not damn well i mean it's not like you can anymore right but uh wait uh when you say old papa is that where uh where the videos were made uh yes with the car videos that is cool uh easter egg by the way on godzilla the carpet on the building is the papa carpet oh that's what that is somebody said something about the carpet yeah he uh keith did a post on facebook or he was like something he talked about the carpet or something bam you see me that's eight million a shot by the way without 2x playfield next one would have been 24 million oh this is the value we're in value town right now every shot every green shot is oh yeah oh wow nine minutes that would have been 64 million get it get it 9.2 oh it's i think it's is there 32 or 64 million on that side ramp right now because this is 9 million i'm not on a combo oh this is the bug i was talking about by the way oh wow it's still it's still at 10 million yeah it was 107. that's not bad i don't think it was 10 million in that final shot i think it was it says 10 million but i think you get more for it oh okay there's some there's some fundamental issue with the mode where you can because my best ever in it is like 400 million okay but i'm not sure exactly how 238 yeah i see all right for all the marbles this is the one right here right rest in peace papa rest in peace and your mediocre parking lot and the really scary building that dropped bricks on cars is it that bad oh it was it was the uh yeah so the old it was like this warehouse it looks really like gross from the outside because there's this like old hotel from like like really old like a brick hotel that it was like completely like it like caught fire or something and it was abandoned and it like is falling apart like there are nails and bricks everywhere and then the it was like across the parking lot was papa and the parking was always full like it was down the street wow so where where was papa uh it was in uh carnegie pennsylvania okay and then somebody posted that earlier that was i ski dude yeah uh carnegie uh turning pennsylvania into even a less beautiful place [Laughter] it was always raining and it was so the food options were awesome the town was really nice because it was kind of like low-key and all the food options again were really good and the hotels were not bad um but just like the weather sucked always like it was never it was never nice outside it was always rainy or cloudy or like it felt sad but you were not never sad because you were at papa right it just was it was crap it's kind of chicago i feel like is very much the same yeah it's the same way as chicago but chicago baits you into that false sense of security by giving you a sunny day when your airplane lands and then after your airplane ran it's it's after you get there and you're feeling good for a couple of hours it rains for three days just like it did at expo at expo it rained for three days yeah but it was nice when our like when we got in it wasn't that bad yet i mean i knew i i didn't fall for it i knew i know i know their dirty tricks so really quick because that bug is ridiculous it saved the enterprise and specifically it remains at whatever you left that jackpot at when you hit the warframe i don't know exactly how it works but all i know is that by shooting the spinner and looping the warp ramp you get hundreds of millions very quickly okay got it um i don't know i haven't i've never owned one so i haven't been able to like take the glass off and figure it out like exactly okay all i know is that it is worth more than most things in the game so if you can stack save the enterprise in after and you want to do nero 3 because nero 3 then doubles that spinner shot right and then it builds faster oh okay that makes a lot more sense so [Music] man i guess if you could do nero three and then is it save the enterprise that also doubles the warp ramp then i have never yeah but if you finish save the enterprise then you can't do it because you've already played it oh right i've never done it oh yeah i assume it's safety enterprise that puts a double that would make sense but not everything in pinball makes sense should we program this game uh this was this can't be lyman right i would it probably says it might be somewhere i think it's it's on google it everybody right it's signed by i can't read signatures so i mean we have like what 50 something people here 40 something people one of you guys has to know what are you guys doing yeah somebody pays more attention knows who did the code on this right yeah it was a uh it was a weird time for stern they were like just coming out from a few misses or not really was it this was was this before or after tron this was after tron right this was 2013 i think and tron was 2011. yeah tron was like the like for me in my memory was like they're rekindling it's like what kind of brought it back that's what it felt like because we had um wheel of fortune which is actually a really good game people don't bonnie rob tanyo yeah okay actually that should have been very obvious by the combo rules that it was dwight i should have been able to figure this out um i love dwight games or i love some of them but they're very similar oh that was going to be one of my questions for you because at one point uh during the last stream you said once you figure out how the rule sets on pinball work you know how every game basically works yep so i imagine it's much like magic the gathering and that you get to a point where you understand how a pinball game should work and then each game kind of breaks the rules in some unique way yeah exactly so when it comes to pinball it's like okay how do i get double play field okay you got double play field now what uh also you're in trouble here nah i got this it's easy super easy barely an inconvenience all right i mean you got to go all or nothing uh roger agrees yes that's like the yeah double scoring is like huge in some games or sorry in most games right like godzilla it's huge like in this game it's huge in tron people don't get it but that game is actually one of the biggest double scoring games right the 2x over on the track because you get it all the time and something that people don't know about tron this is a trade secret but if you shoot the right orbit or anytime the ball comes around and you hold the upper flipper it goes into that pop bumper there's a hole so you can actually change what your next toronto word is one at a time by doing that oh yes rather than shooting in the pops and just hoping it lands on your double scoring you can actually change it one at a time okay um so like and then you also have like weirder games like game of thrones right game of thrones if you like if i played against someone that had never played pinball before game of thrones before or didn't know anything about it um and they literally never missed and i got a guaranteed iron throne game they probably still wouldn't be able to beat me yeah kind of thing like there's some games like that where you just have to know you you have to know the rules in order to put up big points yeah but that's cool i saw like some tilt forms thread about that where it was like all these new games are so complicated but for me that's like pinball is being able to be efficient you know if for me i really love it when a game balances it well like give something for the people who want complicated rules but also provide uh a simple a simple set of modes that are easy to get into only there was a designer that was done that four times in a row right who who seemed to build games for both types of players that would be crazy right maybe i could be that person oh come on the initial release of this game was woeful okay oh yeah it sucks this game was awful i remember playing at expo i was like this game's terrible and then it's like the uh was it uh walking dead it uh it made it it just took a little while it took a while so what do you think about uh so have you played ultraman yet i have not maybe should do that uh so they have new rules coming out i think this friday was it there there was an announcement and i'm i'm i'm not going to say optimistic that they're going to resolve what may they're going to fix the game by any means but i'm hoping maybe for a pretty significant improvement right and and the example being look at look at stern and how much time it's spent for guardians of the galaxy a game needed saving oh my god my favorite was on the pro when you could get super spinner that was awesome uh just for context there's not a spinner on that game and you actually were required to finish the level two of the modes to get to the end so on the pro for about three months the the end was programmed but you couldn't get to it ah um that was funny um now we're back in the 90s innovation and unique playfields so roger yeah there was a lot of innovation in unique playfields there was it was kind of the heyday of pinball right the 80s and the 90s i would say like mid to late night the golden edge of like Bally Williams games yeah yeah oh yeah that's the golden age because those games those rule sets were bound that's okay i do it every time so at least you're not consciously understanding that it's a bad thing right that's the first way of getting to you know the solution by understanding that because it yeah quick turn long enough to figure that out now we are back in the innovation in unique playfields uh yeah i think we're about due for another um what's it called metallica playfield well i don't know i i really hope that keith puts pressure on these some of the other people to separate their game yeah you know and i'm not uh i'm not upset by any means with the layout from mandalorian i i for me i kind of liked the the it was it felt unique to me yeah i think um it would be unique if that was it's one of my least favorite dwight rule sets is mandalorian i feel like there's a lot of potential with the scopes that just isn't capitalized on and some of the multiballs play the same some of the modes you can't tell them apart and there's just so many things that are just minor things that just take away like a little bit i enjoy the game but the main thing that kills it for me is that the best way to play the game is to backhand every shot because if you miss a forehand on that game you dream that's just what happens and uh and the backhand every single shot is backhandable except for the orbits but the orbits are used for one thing in the entire game and uh i don't know that's why i'm just a little disappointed with mandalorian and i don't think the real estate was that deep uh now it is it's a little harder to get to the end now than it was before but uh i got to the end of my second game on mando which is it's not a great example for me because i play a lot more controlled than people so like grinding through stuff is easier right but i wouldn't ever want to own one right and i didn't feel like i did anything in there in that game that anyone that owned the game could figure out after a couple games or just being able to like play slow all your mode time's out on you that's okay i was distracting you you can blame me yeah i got 110 million in my cling on so if you do that then you are back in this game all right so i should just play well i'm going to do that yeah so you want to hit every shot okay and not nice okay so you it's i dream it's well it's fine yeah so better than monsters i was about to say that monsters was the only game that i got to the end on my first game and also old monsters premium scoring was awesome um because the lower play field first off i'm kind of bummed that game would be the premium would be way better if they just didn't put secondary buttons for the lower play field and just made it like that i don't know it's so unnecessary um and i hate i don't know if it's just me but i hate games where you have that like second button like shadow they're far enough away that like they don't get in your way you ever feel that with any games then i'm looking at how you're holding your flipper it doesn't look like it would get in the way for you the secondary button oh no not typically for me no my biggest issue is how often while i'm playing shots that i had dialed in suddenly adjust and i can't find him anymore i guess that's like my pinball superpower is that when i'm dialed in a shot like in a tournament i am dialed into that shot that's a good save you did it right that was the right thing to do one too many saves but uh man i really don't have you want to you want to give that a second yeah i'm going to give it a second but in the meantime oh yeah let me just adjust some things a little bit just mine oh wait we got one more one more because this one is great this has basically been your hair can the entire time oh yeah because when i play i play a little bit further oh yeah but you're like on top of the machine yeah man let me tell you papa 20 ruin that footage half of the final two games is just it's just that it's just this and like you can't see what i'm doing um it's why we need internet connectivity says hirepina anytime you get near a gc someone can subtly change the coil strength and ruin all of your shots higher peanut you're not doing that already yeah i'll say actually higher p you've obviously not played uh the remakes before because i'm already used to that happening to me while playing a monster bash or attack from mars or a medieval madness remake because then you already have to adjust for strange flipper springs yes again i love the remakes if it wasn't for that they would be perfect if the flippers felt if the flippers just felt right it's such a weird i don't know what's wrong with them i wish i could give suggestions to chicago pinball is that what they are yeah chicago pinball like i wish i could like tell them what's wrong but i don't know because i don't own one and i can't like look at it right i don't know what's different but it feels different it that's it there's no question like you could figure it out if somebody somebody said here's a perfect brand new like new inbox og valley williams and one of the new ones there there's there's no question you would know in a heartbeat which one was the valley yeah no i could tell by one flip probably well and also you know the leds sure um i'm not a fan of the the different leds but that's because you know i might be this kid but i still have my you know old person that's not how they used to be that reminds me of uh dice is uh is on here dice is very young but is uh very knowledgeable about 70s and 80s uh television shows and uh and and culture i i that's just apparently what he spends oh nice nicely done there i don't think i realized you could do that yeah me neither actually okay you can on a lot of them oh and i forgot i'm in the money again what's up save the enterprise with nero spinner i love i love this just keep shooting those just gotta get my 2x playfield running then i'm truly in the money so uh have you did you ever watch uh clone wars the the star wars cartoon right now uh me yes yes i did actually i i think it was the movie i think okay i don't remember there was like this it wasn't baby yoda it was like oh it was um no it was uh what's his name the uh oh the fat guy the fat guy the the guy that like trained up leia and the start of the sixth one what's his name jabba the hutt oh jabba the hood yeah so that's to the jedi i just remember that was the one i watched is where they like had his son for some reason and they had to like get it back to him i think someone oh yeah sorry you're talking about the episode where they had one of the hutt's children yeah i so that's the only memory i have from watching it when i was a kid that looks like the only one i remember is like i don't even remember what's her name uh but she was like climbing a wall with him and it was that's the only memory i have of that but i do remember watching it because i think the main reason i watched that is because i had uh the battlefront for the psp oh man i played so much battlefront battlefront was an enjoyable game man was it online uh no because my dad illegally sorry uh got the games through different methods so i played solo but it's okay i didn't know he was doing it so i just figured it was so low okay i also had like a lot of i played a lot because it was the only thing i used to do on plane trips for probably five years was player psp because i would play my psp and i would play battlefront 1. oh man with the nintendo switch well i guess you know even the i guess the not the duo what was the what was the other portable one they had that had two screens from nintendo i don't remember oh man i never got into that i had the game boy like i mean just totally how old are you i am 39 damn so i have the ryan wanger huh yeah you know how old ryan is i have no idea how do you think ryan is if i had to guess i'd say 36 or 36 i think he's in his 40s okay wow he's really old he's really old maybe he's not that old like 20 people on the street i know it's okay there's no way ryan's watching right now boy yeah iron fox so i mean like when nintendo came out i i got a nintendo console that's the that's when i started gaming jedi you're old george i started gaming i played minecraft i tried so hard my younger cousin called me up and he's like george you you have to get on uh minecraft it's the most fun game ever and i'm like okay cool i'm doing it i bought it and this is before it was owned by microsoft and uh and i just it was like a five dollar donation i'm like you sure this is real i'm not like gonna get hacked by sending this guy five dollars hold it up i'm like it's it's like it's like legos in a virtual environment is that what's the game he's like no no that's it you just build things it's great okay i couldn't i couldn't i couldn't make minecraft happen wow i tried so hard well but i'm such a huge fan of like uh so uh old i love pac-man i love tetris i love retro stuff and that i love the the deep story games uh with man from xbox i played a ton of uh like riddick uh butcher bay it was a game that i ended up playing to completion that was super fun all right um oh my god 270. it might be a lot more if i do everything right here okay i kind of need my extra ball though the only problem is when i get my extra ball it wastes my easy 2x playfield and i kind of need that like very soon yeah the first easier one yeah because i don't really want to get an extra than do an r10 so i'm just not hitting that ramp so what i need to do is finish this up get into the two ball that the 2x basically going into and get that massive bonus from uh what's the the first wizard mode you get to uh kobayashi kobayashi right uh you might need more than that if i do it as well oh i see dude what did you think of 8-bit i keep seeing that on netflix and i haven't tried it yet also jedi started with the atari 2600 but it was a hand-me-down and he got the 7 800 to replace it uh-oh accidentally pulled the trigger i didn't realize i pulled the trigger okay that's one what's the hardest shot out of the shots remaining i just need to hit the center twice for about 200 million maybe more nice oh is that uh oh i just lost control okay this shot uh is really big because i think i have a full set of golds okay i definitely have a full set of shoulders so trap up get in there you're now in 2x [] oh my god don't die i'm dead get it get it get it there you go i have about 20 seconds too okay okay good so i'm at 307 i'm thinking i'm at 520 right now because he said a bronze because i don't think this calculates it i think this is is it 40 i don't know i could be around it i should have a full set of gold son yeah oh man i had one extra too that's like 100 so it's 143 times two i believe uh wasn't no that was wood 2x no that was with the 2x yeah because it was like it i think it was like 70 something oh it had to be oh no i didn't remember where my black holes are that sucks never mind figured it out red viper welcome to the stream it was pretty well done neil patrick harris did a good job it was a period piece from the 80s where the kids are trying to get a nintendo entertainment system but all the parents in town are completely against children playing video games all of a sudden snail man says tell escher that he needs to do nero 3 and destroy the drill 3 to really blow up uh ste galactic save the enterprise galactic oh so um i mean i might as well just you know maybe i should just prep a five-year mission before i play the game not that you know just just get that yeah let me just let's get that out of the way first so then maybe i'll worry about it so i feel like you took what i was gonna do to to potentially beat you and used it against me here because this was what i was at least shooting for uh-oh oh no okay oh you're good you're good you're fine they're classic you've been playing pinball for two hours i really want to get this doubled you know maybe it won't happen okay i just missed that time yeah whatever i'm adhd whoa nearly gave me an away team uh oh i've never seen it never seen it jump out of an away team i did too early all right that was fine i could have gotten more in kobe i was fine i was only got like 30 million in it i was trying to get my 4x uh how oh you completed nero two yeah or nearer three so that would i was trying to combo the shot so right i was getting a little greedy three double oh so destroy the drill so we were wrong so you can oh it is destroy the drill okay so that if you do that you could probably get a billion and save the enterprise okay that's that's the new goal yeah oh sorry when i was talking about the old meta prime directive 2 was it you would play this mode where you have to like you get more points if you follow the lit arrow okay um and it builds it by a million each time you hit the litter so you can get really good points in this mode but uh you would just time it out and all the shots would re-light and you could build the value forever okay because it would never reset just keeps getting bigger it was yeah again the second most boring strat for star trek only topped by the timing out there we go do a little multiball playing that's i always love this rule i wish more games would do it i i agree like some something that that allows you to bring a multiball into anything although code wise nice save kinda i want to keep my multiball i don't want to give it up yet also this mode is really cool this is the one of the best program this is the best program level 2 mode in the game by a lot which is all the shots are kind of in a combo which is very cool come on come on i mean it's going to time out on me going full stern mode animation stacking i finished the mode because it was still thought i was in a lock so the reason i finished that is it paused the timer because the ball was going through the lock animation so the timer wasn't running [Music] oh nice seat whoa all right let's go wow man i have to remember that i can do that me too oh so i didn't mean to do that you don't want to actually start the multiball when you're because you lose your single ball play right right yep and there's just no reason to do it but i wasn't paying attention or thinking which is sometimes important for people you see i'm out of my comfort zone i've only been here you know probably a dozen times right so i can't play just from like memory that makes sense you're at a stage where you really have to kind of think about it well the classic audible that didn't add anything shooters says ezra sets the gc on all of george's games and he can't sell them until he cracks the okay let me uh give me an hour give me like three hours on your godzilla well i'll make it a lifetime make it a lot harder well well no i wouldn't say make it a lifetime game mode because you would have like probably three weeks i assume that keith is going to nerf the current state of godzilla multiball because i think right now currently on godzilla unless the super mode is like iron throne levels of overpowered um it is for getting a score on godzilla like right now is your best bet okay because it doesn't reset anymore back in my day after you got a gc on a game and they updated the code it would go away and now my day was uh what three three years ago the uh the first time i had tron it was uh i purchased it from lions oh you got the lion strong i did and uh that's one of the steepest flippers in the world those were it was it was a very interesting setup i'll give it that um but that was the uh that was the first time i ever got to portal and it was chasing specifically your gc on it nice save oh nice uh what was my gc on that one uh i was like 170 something wow it's not bad it's not as difficult as of a game as that was this is also one of the great level two modes because you have you can only it moves the shots back and forth like this uh-huh but you can only hit the same shot once so i'm down to two shots but i only have three shots available that i'm like allowed to hit which is the scoop side ramp and center so now i have to either hit these two shots i hate you one of my favorite modes i i like it when the shots move across the playfield like uh what is it in jurassic park in the uh oh no all right well it's gonna get interesting if i get to uh enterprise a muck or not it's getting a little close getting close well uh klingon battle 2 is really easy as long as you can hit the center ramp eight times in a row hey look at that cheap wallet joke right there it's the third time that 576p has come up in the discussions tonight i can't i'm telling you i got nothing george is ruining for the rest of us wait what's that you're making your stream quality too damn high oh how am i supposed to compete with this with my satellite internet man come on you're in fort collins now dude you know i was gonna say well i'm in a 900 square foot apartment but then your apartment is actually smaller than mine and yet you have seven games here or whatever uh so i guess i don't have any excuses [Music] you did give me an idea for uh my stream plan which is the gopro on the glass because you could totally record the screen in a much nicer way that way if you just brought that around with you instead of a second oh right you just plant it just plant it because it's super easy and then you could angle it up for the screen exactly so well there's it goes super wide i've got it i've got it uh brought in a little bit too yeah and that wouldn't be a pain to like swap like between games yeah i'm working on i have a few ideas i'm off school for like seven months uh in a week and a half i'm nearly free watch out pinball world because uh because escher has has time on his hands yeah i got time on my hands and so if you're in a 30 to 45 minute drive you got to watch out past that then it's got a good enough prize pool that's only one thing um we're almost at the era with whoppers that tournaments will pay you to go to them like i've been offered like i think it was like two hundred dollars for a tournament do you like let's go oh just uh just to go whoppers yeah or basically to like create interest and like the main thing i told the guy was you don't have to pay players to go if you make the prize pool 2500 for first you don't have to pay me to go i'll go right just go yeah you're super lit so you should combo it okay man what no but but i was comboed right like i just hit the warp ramp three times no no warframe doesn't combo that for some even though it should so i you get you know i'll give you the ben that was i your you did it right there that should have been a combo but i'll blame dwight i'm blaming dwight's easy yeah i was actually telling him last time i was here uh sheepwalla about your uh what do you call it the dumpster fire star trek strat which is you want to get to kobayashi and enterprise and muck at the lowest possible score i'm just gonna blame canada yeah that's easy too i'll blame canada there's another uh potential stream guest uh do you know miles grant i do not uh he's from what's that place in canada above seattle vancouver vancouver yeah uh kid player uh well i say kid but he's 18 19 now same age as me uh really good oh yeah i already i said emily i didn't talk to him i was like if you want to come on stream oh my gosh [Music] yeah miles is coming potentially coming to visit in the uh in the winter christmas era oh yeah that sounds like fun so another i'm assuming another quality like awesome player yeah he uh what was he uh at northwest uh not the uh championships with the show uh he was he almost won he was like very close on no fear to beating raymond for that uh what's in our i feel like oh yeah he um had an average of 8.2 on day one of pinburg geez or maybe it was eight average it was like he was top 24 day one of pembert um he then got three ones the next day but we won't talk about that like after the first one we're like okay man you're still in because you had such a good day one right and then after the second one came in it wasn't looking so good and then the third one came in and i'll take it man not even double scoring man we'll get there we'll get there yeah okay so yeah dumpster fire your mission i'm just trying to to keep the ball afloat and i needed to get that extra ball as soon as possible good kobayashi you come out with three ball play if you finish kobayashi you come out in whatever ball play you're still in it like the atta ball from 9.9 you know that no so the dream i've done it once is you come out of kobayashi in four ball single ball play that's pretty cool so you have to get an out of ball for your black hole and then add a ball from the like 9.9 during kobayashi and then finish it without draining and then you get to play like in a four-ball multiball okay so [Music] so can can i not get my 2x while i'm in this no you can i'm saying you want to get that 2x for your trophy collect that's the i don't know if your black hole is apparently it was ready i guess so all right so now you're gonna hit 12 in a row oh never mind oh come on all right here oh no you could have flicked it you got to get your free shots i keep yeah not the smartest player all right it's fine all right he's got a triple your score okay i'm gonna i'm gonna triple it right here-ish every time people come back on me it's always after a double danger so you're setting up for that you know who's the absolute master at that uh luke no horniak he's coming back from a double deck if you're down like 200 million on like metallica ac dc i like anything you're down by like enough that you're like okay i'm good and then he starts the ball with a double danger preferably he takes a double danger when ball saver is still running you're it's over like he's gonna get you like i swear he's done against me like four or five times where i've been like okay i'm in good shape thinking about the next game because i've already finished or is a good enough lead and then he does a double danger i'm like okay yeah no this is looking really just over and then it happened enough times where he came back on me that like now i get anxious when he does a double danger against me like that like enables him to play his best okay i i kind of understand that there it is you're right you're right colin he is truly the master of using all of his opportunities or to use his dangers whether that be sometimes when he probably doesn't need to that mode is hard to finish on your first try oh i got another extra ball that's your first one oh you thought you had your extra ball it was kobayashi oh okay well i got my extra ball then okay cool luke and his wiggle passes on aiq yes the wiggle passes you did some of the aiq challenge right i no i did not i never did anything on aiq i did jurassic park yeah it was jurassic park um yeah aiq uh luke found a way to uh found a way to transfer the ball without using a flip and i'll let you guess how that happens some sort of a wiggle yeah he would just do a slide save and the ball would cross okay so the best part about vengeance or the second vengeance scoring is that you have now let yourself do the third vengeance one like you should never play this mode okay but the third one is actually good because uh it is a dwight game after all see i should have remembered this i'm like oh yeah it's a dwight game if you finish the third one you get 10 percent of your score oh or does it twenty percent it's enough that it's like damn that's uh it's like it's enough and then you can double it as well oh oh the new note the newest ghostbuster code you know like when they nerfed the video mode yes um there was this awesome it wasn't even a bug it was that uh one of the mystery awards was 10 of your score which is a really good mystery award well when you have several billion that's awesome and also uh when you it's also really good when you have 6x playfield running yeah and it was also funny because you would get it the majority of the time uh top five personal favorite pinball okay uh i can do four right now which is jurassic park godzilla you know aiq isn't in my top games aiq is a great game but um it's just not my top games there's just a few issues with it like the premium just there's too many things with it you know uh tron's up there tron's one of my top five uh and let's see what's up i can get a little creative for my you know a better a better would be one from each era because my favorite em this is funny even before the world championships i would have answered this uh my favorite em is actually jungle queen really yeah i love that game uh bumper nugget aka extra uh paul really really likes he has jungle princess yeah they're too real uh yeah we bought one for 500 bucks uh when i was 10. we owned it for like three years two years um and we sold it for 500 bucks and uh ah damn it's funny we both had our best games of the night on the last game yeah i feel like that i just kind of want to see you crack a billion on this now i mean i'll try [Laughter] um actually let me do a little three switching can you check your locks in sas menu can you what oh i hate you game wait did it auto i was trying plunge was trying to go through sas menu and uh i plunged it i meant to do that well that was yeah perfect okay nicely done so one thing about locks is you can actually see how many locks you have on the animation when you light locks one more that's not the animation oh damn that was close and that was the rubbers we can we can blame the the lack of post rubbers there yeah uh yeah i got to finish my solid state okay solid i was gonna be i gotta do it with the button uh usal stays hard um andromeda i really like andromeda um that was only high score number one yeah you got a better sport than that if you just shoot warp ramps the entire game that's pretty much how i played this game no like on this one you can get a billion before kobayashi just by doing that oh that's right okay i don't think i put that one up on uh i don't remember that was enterprise of muck if i remember yeah enterprise and muck is awesome because it's completely worthless and but it plays forever yes i'm so sorry i interrupted your solid state yeah i know my least favorite solid state it's that one right there so stars is your least favorite but it's not because it's a bad game it's just i have never had a positive experience on stars before um uh solid state yeah uh andromeda i've always been i've it's always been around uh it's probably paragon i really like paragon paragon this is an interesting game um embryon if it was just a little less boring um what about the so one designer did a three-part series he did meteor stars and meteor's great meteor's really fun what's your thoughts on nine ball uh nine ball if it wasn't that's just a game where you shoot the lower right spinner over and over again right yes so it's i think you gotta build yeah there's like oh there's like i remember it was uh it was at dory hills it was at dory hill um yeah the game's it's like meteor but less dynamic yeah i think so uh meteor is the best of the three by far okay um meteor's definitely up there from my solid states yeah i'm just to say paragon paragon's a classic for solid states i don't know why i don't like the artist who did that perspective is off just a little bit on paragon yeah yeah on the front i'm just like i yeah i want i don't know why it bothers me so much yep uh okay so then dmd um when it comes to theme integration and like cool playfield um i love whodunit it really i it the the points scoring balance sucks really bad and some of it's really boring and if you have to play zach mccarthy then just concede before it starts zach was at like 26 billion against some local guy on ball too and it's like dude stop playing man we're playing a strikes tournament here like come on like because uh there's a bug with it where it happened at pinburg if you want to see some awesome footage of it happening i don't remember exactly how you do it but basically you can make it so that the center targets never come up okay so you can play a lot of elevators and after you finish a full set of elevators it starts your the super multiball or like that i'm unfamiliar with the game okay well you can play the game incredibly safely with no risk whatsoever forever like forever um i really like the theme of it though and i like how there's like kind of like a i remember sitting in the hot tub when i was like nine with my bed talking because we were like going through the lore of the game because if you know the lord of the game after one phone call you can make the right call 90 of the time oh interesting and that's if you know the story so you know all the stories and it's hard because you know butler has a real name and so does the uh tony has a different name as well it's like complicated but the number one rule to it is is this is a cool tip for everyone out there when you get a call it's either if the person is talking about the dead person then with no other names involved it's not usually helpful but you should guess the person talking anyways okay if there's three people in involved that's your worst case scenario because it's one of the two then it's a 50 50. but if they're talking about another person negatively it's probably um what's the there's like you can kind of just tell it's always someone in the discussion when they like talk about okay and it comes down to don't panic that's amazing thank you truffle salt popcorn oh my god that sounds amazing also when you're talking so you're saying you WHO dunnit over tron no uh when it comes to tournament play uh tron ac dc metallica so hard to choose all three of those games are exceptional walking dead as well uh game of thrones uh sort of uh what some of other games uh just like that era a game most of those games are really good um like even like games like batman which people don't like that much i don't like batman dark knight dark knight i really like batman the game is fun uh i got to the end finally on it uh the super mode you don't get ball save and it's two ball play and if you drain one it's over oh wow yeah it's not don't go for it really now isn't there also some hidden thing where if you hit 27 shots or something it's not even hidden it's just the batmobile hurry up you plunge batmobile at the start of the ball and you have to hit your skill shot and then you start the batmobile hurry up and then you shoot the right orbit it's like a medieval madness castle hurry ups okay um you can just keep shooting it and then after a while whenever you choose it says the score so it's like it says like 8.25 million right because you plunged 2x at the start of the ball it's actually 16 million and then you shoot the left spinner it doubles how fast it counts down but it doubles the amount but you can't build it after you shoot the spinner so you shoot it a bunch until you have a value that you're happy with you shoot the spinner and then whatever the value is it's actually double of that because you plunge it if you don't plunge it you can still i think to get the billion you don't even need to plunge the doubler i think you can do it without the doubler like you can just shoot it it's way more tedious but right i just like the fact that it's it's basically batman the the layout of batman 66 with more toys like there's just a lot going on in that in my playing field yeah so dmd is really hard so for theme i really like WHO dunnit WHO dunnit for tournament play tron is great when a regular tournament play tron is great like by just by like pure shot making and control and decision making uh when it comes to ppm points per minute uh game of thrones is the most interesting dmd because again someone that knows the game really well and does everything right can get 10 times the amount of points as someone who makes 20 times more shots right like it's it's most interesting it demonstrates how impactful knowledge can be i think it's important and then when it comes to these i think jurassic park is the greatest for the lcd lcds because jurassic park has something for everyone in it okay um the theme integration is perfect like there's no game that does it better it it's immersive in a way that most games have never done where you're there's there's a thing in the middle right and uh and the direction that's going is is the the lights on the play field and then you've got the lcd which is first person point of view driving yeah i know it's and again for even like there is it's once you learn the basic flow like you can learn the basic flow very quickly like like a regular person will pick it up and they will understand how the map works because it's very intuitive like it makes sense for a lot of the people that have showed it's like like oh here's the map this is where you are and then you get to choose that's the key i needed somebody the first time i played through to be like yeah yo ur car is well if you read the screen when you start your first paddock yeah but i understand that so i i do really like the playfield and then the information shows on the screen you never have to go to the sas menu it tells you everything oh it's um and then the idea of that um with the fossils just being able to like see like you have to do everything you have to you have a checklist right yeah you have to check 12 boxes to get to the end like the two and which is dinosaur of the earth but you can miss four but if you missed four you have to play the game differently to um be able to get those wild cards right so like you need the pteranodon pteranodon whatever the right ramp is right you get a was that a rule change at some point i didn't realize you needed the no you don't need it if well you don't once you get to nublar yeah and you finish newblar the game will end but if you have every single fossil then dinos dinosaurs will be earthstars okay um i don't know how many people have done it i know um top rope pinball has done it i i solved the string the top rope top rope by the way another streamer on tpn if you have not checked out top rope yeah i think carl's definitely done it raymond did it but he cheated a little bit but that's okay he could he could definitely do it if he went for it again i've done it three times because and the other thing that i love about jurassic park that in our game uh i mean total nuclear annihilation has it but there's an actual end of the game and when you're playing at the highest level there is a wall that you can not cross like there is a limit to the amount of points you can get in the game if you do everything perfectly you can get probably 11.2 billion without super inland super inland is the only thing that goes forever but it's so stupid to get to that it doesn't matter uh and super inlines is the eighth super um supply drop oh um and they get harder harder and harder to activate i think it's uh i think it's like 82 upper loops roger goes yeah sorry just that the purest play field ever i yeah art is great on it too i i'm not an art person but so that was john crapper i think who did the art on that one yeah i don't know i feel like i'm messing up his name but i'm not doing it on purpose to say it incorrectly but that was uh the game that so i i got rid of that and then i repurchased it but i knew as soon as i got rid of it i was going to get it again in the future yeah which is when the toppers went on sale so i've had the jurassic park toppers sitting in my room oh yeah yeah for now close to a year now i think yeah and that's the other thing that's great about jurassic park is the premium mechs are really cool they are um it's it's very similar to like the godzilla premium le where it's like it's worth the upgrade and jurassic park is totally worth that upgrade too because the raptor pen is cool it works really well um the the actual t-rex head works really well on 90 of them which is not bad for how complicated the mech is we always had problems with ours but worst cases you disable it and it still like moves around and it just doesn't need to pick up the ball and that's that's cool right that's for like random people stepping up like that's a cool thing if the le didn't cross that crazy 20 000 threshold in the past six months oh yeah that's hilarious the le is is ridiculous now yeah well there you go and then there's one yeah so super inlands if you don't know what it is it is the true hardest thing to do in that game okay i've done it twice ever but i've never actually used it because i drained instantly and so what happens in super so you get infinite missiles oh my god sorry i know it is incredibly overpowered wow so you can play raptor over and over and over and over again sorry infinite missiles like if oh yeah so you get an inland you shoot a missile miss or hit doesn't matter you swap the truck back and forth and it's lit again and then it's lit again so the rest of the ball and if you go into a multiball with like raptor is it still lit yeah oh my gosh so could you act it i'm assuming it doesn't provide you the opportunity to combine multiple no but you can just keep getting rescues and sure if you do it before you get to nublar so how newblar works um when you're in a regular game is the value of each rescue during nublar is dependent on your streak before so if you go through all the paddocks like the longest route in perfect paddock every single time and you don't lose a single person which is arguably incredibly difficult to do i've never done it i don't think anyone has probably ever done it but when you start new blar that's the value of each shot is it's 500 000 more for each of your rescue streaks so you or i think it might be 250 000 it's a lot so like i've gone in with a 40 or like 30 40 before and that increases the value by so much so if you guess you get like 40 extra rescues you're doubling new bars value wow and that's already and well and then once you lose a truck in new blar then you lose that streak oh so it's the first truck that matters in nublar like very much so if you get there in a regular game and that's if you have a rescue streak going in which is hard enough because the last one is um the pterodactyl paddock usually and pterodactyl paddock sucks really bad have you ever played that one yes right it jumps to the rescues everything it sucks and without the mist there the buttons you can't do it without unless you can hit the o every time and side ramp every time i don't think anyone can do that oh shot man i love it i i i i think how difficult it is i hated it when i first started playing it and then i came to appreciate it that it is the most satisfying shot in pinball like you hit you can hit it and it like it just it feels good and then you can drop catch the upper flipper and shoot the side ramp it's like like this design is great it is a really good design it is that is my easiest choice really that's probably my favorite game i know you've got to go but fliptronic just asked a really cool question what's your what's your dream theme i don't know i don't care you don't have a dream theme uh that's the thing with him ball is i guess i've been a player my whole life i guess right which is like since i was four i went to a tournament and all that so like when i see like i liked the themes growing up like i liked the lord of the rings and i liked the theme of it and i like being able to like watch the movies and come back to the game but for me it was more of like pinball has shaped my interest more than my interest has shaped my pinball interests if that makes sense because i've been growing up with pimple my entire life and the themes have been you know like indiana jones adam's family oh my god and jones i would watch the movies or the show because of the pinball machine but not because i got the pinball machine because i watched the shows so how disappointed were you when you watched congo i haven't watched congo i haven't watched shadow okay you're not missing people live and die by shadow shadow is actually not an awful movie it hasn't aged well i heard it hasn't aged well and some people hate it and some people love it there's some people even defend congo there's always one person in chat that's like congo isn't that bad you should rewatch it's like nope i have not 99 of people say it sucks um i was talking to uh levi by the way that was a michael crichton book congo oh yeah really enjoyable book the movie yeah yeah that's what uh levi fort collins leave i was saying yeah uh he was like talking about how like it was a great concept and it was a good idea it was just poorly executed yes and under-budgeted um and not a great time for doing a movie like that i guess like they were you know it wasn't the technologies or something i don't know so when it comes to themes nothing jumps out is like something you're really really looking for because you yeah it was more of the pinball and the game itself that drove you to check out yeah exactly so it's so hard for me to pick a theme because again it's like oh yeah esther named a metallica song in 2014 or where like before it came out yeah exactly and then actually name oh okay so that was fade to black i understand man whom the bell tolls battery uh one uh you know it's like yeah no no and what's once you beat the game you unlock a song i think we need more of that by the way i really enjoy that feature oh yeah uh so it's the it's the name of the wizard mode is the side of the line end of the line there you actually unlock it that's cool i didn't know that um and then like ac dc like when i was playing pinball i had a playlist on my mp3 player that was the 12 songs from ac dc okay so it's like again yeah so awesome well i have kept you here way past when you wanted to stay you were hoping to be gone 45 minutes ago thank you i got no time i got no dad telling me to go to bed oh my god you know your dad's probably on here now i'm sure he's in chat well actually no it's probably past his bedtime he's he's got to wake the farm up in the morning okay so well thank you so much for hanging out yeah it was always a pleasure i enjoy this can't wait to have you back and uh guys uh what do we have coming up oh we have two things coming up cincinnati i think is happening this weekend oh yeah so give me a second i'm gonna check out tpn we can take a look at the events we do have the 12 days of christmas coming up uh 12 days of drain miss wait hold on i messed it up got to go back here so happy hanukkah to the uh jewish viewers out there happy hanukkah so it's the third annual 12 strikes of christmas tournament from the pinballers uh and then pincinati is happening this weekend hosted by eric chuckward uh that's on uh twitch.tv sdts dtm pinball that is this friday i think beginning at three o'clock p.m eastern time and this saturday beginning at 12 o'clock p.m eastern time uh check it out uh chuck has been posting all kinds of great picks about the games that he's going to be having at pincenetti so that looks awesome uh those are the two upcoming events i have for tpn if you guys are not following uh escher right now on twitch that's steve o pub is that right yeah awesome stevo pub i don't expect any streams don't expect any streams and then i think you also have a steve oppub twitter account yeah right you can follow my twitter it's stevopub it's not really pinball it's like everything i do but steve right there so check those out oh and while i'm there i guess i can do shout out uh i just lost that there we go so please give escher a follow both on twitter and on twitch it's twitter.tv but that's okay oh my god no don't don't click that like twitter.com the story behind stevo pub is um again it's back to minecraft but uh so i was making a minecraft account my original original uh was esther joseph which is my first name middle name and then my dad realized it was public i thought so i had to change my name and uh kaylee from seattle got me a stevo shirt like way back oh wow from uh jackass right no oh not that stevo not a different steve-o i just said stevo stevo and i had four pictures of stevo from champion pub oh okay and that's and that's and he tried stevo but of course this was i mean this is really early minecraft but i think gets devo of course because of jackass that was probably peak jackass uh popularity so then sibo pub and then unlike a lot of people's first online username stiflepub is actually not that bad so i've stuck with it like forever and it's not taken anywhere so oh that is going to be such a good question that's a good one first internet first internet name some of them are really bad so i guess mine was technically escher joseph or esther joe but like that doesn't really count because it was there for like an hour okay and yeah i got rid of it really quick good thinking on your dad's part by the way oh my gosh i can't yeah imagine what i'd be doing if my eight-year-old daughter put her full name well yeah well she's on hand also like escher is not a uh super common name no no so um so really quick on that one my first was net hog and that was because the the band space hog had just come out and i was really into um it was at high school and uh and i had uh it was a script to be able to hack other people's computers on the network where i could like open their cd-roms or take over their computer and their mouse and things like that it was like called back the it was the script i think was called back orifice as opposed to back office which was a program back end back then that microsoft did um so anyway it was nethog was my very first one free email was zd netmail wow yeah in the meantime fuzzy cord thank you yes exactly space hog in the meantime was the song i listened to all the time went net hog for like three years anyway i kept us here even more that's okay guys have a great night thank you so much esher thanks again no worries we are gonna switch to a commercial for tpn and we'll go find someone to raid and send all this love to [Music] [Applause] have you been inundated with ads and questions related to tpn's now famous homemade pinball pudding line of puddings questions like tpn's pinball pudding is so good it must be illegal right what the [***] is pinball pudding how can a collection of content creators also be a 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