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Episode 185 – To Infinity and Beyond

Slam Tilt Podcast·podcast_episode·1h 30m·analyzed·May 18, 2022
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TL;DR

Slam Tilt reviews Allentown PinFest results, game acquisitions, and JJP next-title rumors.

Summary

Ron and Bruce discuss Allentown PinFest, a major pinball swap meet and tournament event. They cover tournament results (Jason Zoller won, Zach from RPC placed fourth), game acquisitions and repairs, venue issues (stink bombs, broken machines), and upcoming plans for Rochester Pinball Collective including summer hours and a summer league. They also discuss Jersey Jack Pinball factory tours stopping due to gearing up for the next game (rumored to be Toy Story, possibly at Pintastic).

Key Claims

  • Allentown PinFest had approximately 112-115 players in the tournament

    high confidence · Ron states 'They had, I think, 112 or 115' players at the tournament

  • Jason Zoller won the Allentown tournament, with Levy second, Eric Stelman third, and Zach fourth

    high confidence · Ron confirms final four order: 'Jason Zoller was first. First, Levy was second, Eric Stelman was third, and Zach was fourth'

  • Jersey Jack Pinball stopped factory tours because they are gearing up for the next game

    medium confidence · Ron states 'The rumor is, well, they stopped tours of the factory because they're gearing up for the next game. That's the rumor.'

  • The next Jersey Jack Pinball game is rumored to be Toy Story

    medium confidence · Ron says 'And we all know it's Toy Story. If it isn't, I don't know what the hell is going on.'

  • The next JJP game may debut at Pintastic

    low confidence · Ron notes 'And the other rumor is it may be a Pentastic. I know Gabe, the guy who runs Pentastic, is kind of hinting at it. He could just be trolling.'

  • Allentown is more of a swap meet/Carlisle car show format than a typical tournament venue

    high confidence · Ron describes it: 'Allentown is more of like a Carlisle car show. You're going there. You're going in a buy.'

  • Rochester Pinball Collective acquired nine pinball machines from Allentown, filling a 6x12 U-Haul trailer almost to capacity

    high confidence · Bruce confirms 'we fit in nine pins' and 'The trailer literally had space for maybe two heads left'

  • RPC will transition to summer hours starting June 1st, closing early on Saturdays at 10pm

    high confidence · Bruce states 'On June 1st. We will be going to summer hours' and 'We'll be closing at 10.'

Notable Quotes

  • “They have newer games where the ball times are long. Yeah. He has no patience. None at all. He has none at all.”

    Ron and Bruce discussing Zach's tournament performance @ N/A — Commentary on Zach's struggle with longer-playing modern games in tournament finals

  • “Allentown is more of like a Carlisle car show. You're going there. You're going in a buy. This is the true blue I'm going to spend me some money.”

    Ron @ N/A — Characterizes Allentown as a buying-focused event rather than typical tournament venue

  • “I swear, why would you bring a broken – I know some people, they just want to get in the show for free. Like, really? Is it worth it, saving $20 or $40 to bring your broken game in so it can sit there and just not work?”

    Bruce @ N/A — Complaint about broken machines cluttering the show floor

  • “And we all know it's Toy Story. If it isn't, I don't know what the hell is going on.”

    Ron @ N/A — Confident speculation about Jersey Jack's next game announcement

  • “It was the worst smelling Allentown ever... there were stink bombs. Yeah, the one row just smelled like shit the whole show.”

    Ron and Bruce @ N/A — Notable venue disruption/incident at Allentown

  • “It literally rained all day Friday, all day Saturday... It was cold, dreary. Absolutely miserable shit weather.”

    Ron @ N/A — Describes severe weather conditions at Allentown event

  • “Mr. Halfsies, defender of the pinball code. The pinball world.”

    Bruce @ N/A — Humorous characterization of Bruce owning half-shares in multiple machines

  • “Bad Girls... it's so bad it's good it's fucking awesome holy shit bad”

    Ron @ N/A — Ron discovered an obscure EM game he now wants to acquire

Entities

Allentown PinFesteventRochester Pinball Collective (RPC)organizationRon HallettpersonBruce NightingalepersonZachpersonJason ZollerpersonLevypersonEric StelmanpersonJersey Jack Pinballcompany

Signals

  • ?

    business_signal: Rochester Pinball Collective experiencing significant growth in machine inventory from single Allentown event

    high · RPC acquired 9 machines filling 6x12 U-Haul trailer with only space for 2 more machines; now implementing summer hours due to operations strain

  • ?

    community_signal: RPC planning summer community league and 24-hour event to encourage off-season play

    high · Bruce states 'we try to get people out. We pull them away and get them out to play pinball' and mentions 'The RPC First Summer League'

  • ?

    event_signal: Allentown PinFest positioned as major pinball swap meet with tournament format, attracting 112-115 players

    high · Ron confirms tournament size and describes event as 'more of like a Carlisle car show' focused on buying/trading

  • ?

    event_signal: Toy Story JJP game may debut at Pintastic event, with Pintastic organizer Gabe hinting at announcement

    low · Ron notes Gabe 'is kind of hinting at it' but acknowledges 'He could just be trolling'

  • ?

    licensing_signal: Jersey Jack appears to be gearing up substantial production run given factory tour closures and rumored Toy Story development

    medium · Correlation between tour cessation, production readiness language, and rumored high-profile IP announcement

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Transcript

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0:00
Well, let's get on with our ceremony. If you'd come up one at a time, I have a certificate for each of you.
0:08
Congratulations. Good work, Dean. You have many talents to be proud of. Congratulations, Cassandra. I know you'll go far in the world. Okay? Here you go, butthead. You have many qualities. Yeah. And here's your diploma, Beavis. Okay.
0:30
Coming to you from beautiful upstate New York, this is the Slam Tilt Podcast, a show about all things pinball. I'm your host, Ron Hallett, here with my co-host, Bruce Nightingale. Good morning, afternoon, evening, guys. Very good. You covered all the bases there. I'm good. Yes. This is episode 185. Hola, everyone. What's going on? It's going to be a light one. Not much going on. It is now the summer where everyone wants to do everything else except for pinball. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, I'm in a league and I'd rather golf. I'm working and everyone else wants to do something. We only have to think about it. This is the problem with everyone else. The problem with everyone else. Oh, no. In upstate New York, we only have three good months of weather. That's true. So do people want to go inside and play pinball machines? Of course not. They want to do something outside unless it's completely raining or pouring or if it's like 85, 90, 95 degrees, sauna outside. Well, then I want to be outside 100%. So would I. But I got the pool ready. The pool is cleaned, and it's just getting up to temperature. Ron, right now it's a crisp 67 degrees in my pool. Ugh. But it was 54 three days ago. Mm. So it's moving up fast. Okay. So what are we going to talk about today? Well, first I want to thank the at least three people who sent me a link to the Godzilla versus Hedera thing I was looking for. Thank you. It was only five minutes. I thought it was 15 for some reason. And they definitely did low budget. It was very low budget. Low budget.
2:31
Toy Story
game
Pintasticevent
JT Harrisonperson
Bad Girlsgame
Poppin' Ballsgame
Volleygame
Dragon Fistgame
Star Wars (Pro model)game
SkyJumpgame
Fun Parkgame
Spectrumgame
Monacogame
Aliengame
Quicksilvergame
Mercocompany
Gabeperson

market_signal: JJP previously built 100-150 units of Guns N' Roses pinball, uncertain of production capacity for next release

medium · Ron states 'when they were building GNR, they had a hundred, 150 built. They didn't think it was going to be as popular.'

  • ?

    personnel_signal: RPC operational challenges due to multiple owners missing weekends for personal/travel reasons during summer season

    high · Bruce notes Zach missed 4 of 6 weekends, Bruce missed 3 of 6, and now other operators also taking summer vacations

  • ?

    product_strategy: Jersey Jack Pinball has stopped factory tours due to gearing up for next game release

    medium · Ron states 'The rumor is, well, they stopped tours of the factory because they're gearing up for the next game.'

  • ?

    product_concern: Multiple game failures and operational issues at Allentown venue, including broken machines left on floor all day

    high · Bruce states 'A lot of dead games this year again. A lot of dead games.' Discussion of machines left non-functional as swap meets

  • ?

    rumor_hype: Jersey Jack's next pinball game is strongly rumored to be Toy Story

    medium · Ron confidently states 'And we all know it's Toy Story. If it isn't, I don't know what the hell is going on.'

    • Yes. Toho did not want to spend a ton of money on it. I can imagine. I was hoping it would be a little higher budget, but it was still fun. Cool. Godzilla is the king. He is the king.
    2:43
    Let's see. Well, Allentown. We had a ton of fun. Well, we're living here in Allentown. Where the stink bombs are being thrown on the ground. Yeah, I know. Oh, my God. This was the worst smelling Allentown ever. Well, it was because of the stink bombs. Yeah, there were stink bombs.
    3:06
    Yeah, I don't know why people. Basically, the one row just smelled like shit the whole show. Disgusting. Oh, so bad. I wasn't in that row. Luckily, I was doing other things. You weren't in that row, so no one could blame you. Nope. but it was just nasty. It's not the show's fault or anything like that. It's just some idiots. It's kind of like their trademark, though. We are the worst smelling show in pinball. Allentown. We worked it. Well, you worked it. I worked it. I worked multiple things this time, unfortunately.
    3:41
    I was the backdoor man, and we got everyone in on Thursday. I got there Thursday 10 a.m., way before even the show starts. We started loading up vendors at 12 o'clock. Most of the vendors came in on Thursday. They were all loaded up. A lot of games came out in and out Thursday. And then Friday, we had a tournament set up. Eventually, I became the repair guy for the tournament, didn't I? That's what I hear. Yeah. Yeah, and me and Zach brought down a couple games from our PC, Rochester Pinball Collective. We brought down Dragon Fist. Zach brought down his Star Wars Pro. And we brought Volley. Oh, yes, Volley. Volley became Satan.
    4:36
    Satan? Satan. Every time you rolled over 5,000, either gave you 10,000, 6,000, or 4,000. What? What does that mean? So you're saying the score, like I have, I don't know, 4,900 and I go to 5,000, but it doesn't go to 5,000? No, it was like if you rolled over to 5,000, anything that was 5,000 or you hit a target that was lit for 5,000, it would either give you 4,000. Oh, I get it. Okay. 6,000 or 10,000. Well, that's not correct. No, it is not. And Zach and me were underneath that thing for like 45 minutes. We thought we had it a couple times. You were underneath it, then realized you actually needed to get in the back box and not underneath the game. No, we're actually thinking it's the scoring motor. There's no brake on that scoring reel. Scoring motor. Motor. There's no brake. What happened to it? It must have been taken off by somebody else, and they want free wheel.
    5:38
    So we'll see what happens when we get one. We have to get one from PBR. We thought we had an extra one at the shop, and we do not. So we'll figure that out. Dragon Fist only had an EOS issue. It stuck one time. And Star Wars was Star Wars. Great game, and nobody wanted to play it. Oh, I played it. No, no. On Saturday, no one played it. Well, they didn't pick the bank it was in. They didn't like the bank. Well, the reason why is, on Saturday, during the finals, they took off all the ball saves off the sterns. oh yes that is correct so when they did that everyone went fuck that star wars including me exactly that was going to be the one i was going to pick because only one person picked it zach yeah i wasn't going to pick that and he barely won but he won so but he did win against sab for those at home the break switch you should explain what these things are we should but we don't. Oh, we should, but we don't. Isn't it? It's the thing that stops the score motor. Yes. So what happens is it's actually on the end of the stack. And when the stack is rotating for the scoring motor on a Gottlieb, it's spinning clockwise. And what happens is it's at the end of the stack and it sees it and says, well, okay, I'm going to stop the motor. Zach thought it was the stack tart, you know, the stack switches that were sticking or, uh, not close enough. And he worked on them for a while, but it just didn't work out. So somebody recommended the brake switch, you know, and so he didn't have one. I would ask, how does it function correctly at all without a brake switch? They mostly do. It just stops on its own from another, you know. It just stops on its own. It does. It really does. It hits another switch and then the relays kick off, but it doesn't stop perfectly. So is, like, the brake switch the appendix switch? It's not really needed until it is. That's what most operators do, actually. They do take it off. It's like a passenger mirror. You don't need that. Most cars didn't have them until the 70s or 80s, but now we put it on there. Okay. And objects in the mirror may appear closer than they are. Okay.
    7:57
    Isn't that a meatloaf song? Yes, it is. Okay. Actually, what is this? It's different, though. So it's like – Objects may appear closer than they actually are. Yeah, but his song is literally the opposite, whatever the lyric is. Objects in the rearview mirror may appear closer than they are. Yeah, it's like literally the opposite.
    8:20
    Yes, yes, folks. That's the full title. Yes. Good Lord. And then I got to see Raymond. Raymond came out and visited us. Well, it's a tournament. Yep, for the tournament. A lot of players came out from New York City and the local area. They had, I think, 112 or 115. And a couple of our local Rochester people, upstate New York people, made the finals. Yes, they did. The playoffs. Playoffs? Playoffs! I made the playoffs in B. Yes, you did. That was so weird, the whole... Yeah. If you were not in the top 100, you could play in B. Yes. Which seems a little bit... Low. Yeah. Most tournaments I've been, if you're top 500,000, you can't play in B. Yeah, I think they might need to change that part a little bit. Although I won money because of it, so I can't be too upset about it. Steph made it in.
    9:17
    Steph wasn't there. Oh, that's right. Who else? Who made it in? Steph made it in, not being physically there. Amazing. Who made it in? Zach made it in. Who else? Who was the third? Oh, Mark. Our own Mark made it in. Your own Mark from RPC. RPC made it in. That was the third person. Mm-hmm. Mark was bounced on the first round, but Zach made it all the way to the top four. Yeah, he made it to the final four. Yes. Then he finished fourth. Then finished fourth, so congratulations, Zach. Yeah, I think he's going to have issues where they have newer games where the ball times are long. Yeah. He has no patience. None at all. He has none at all. None at all. In the finals, there's three games, and they were doing a newer game and then two older games. Yes, which is great. I like that. So the first game was Star Trek. Yes. And it played long.
    10:11
    And, yeah, he just gets very impatient. And then they had, what was the other ones? Aztec. Aztec and another EM. What was the third one? It was, what the fuck was it? What was it? You have five seconds. Hurry, blow up your house.
    10:31
    Done. What is it? I don't remember. Oh, what the fuck? I have to watch the stream again. That's pretty bad. Zach didn't do great on that. And he ended up fourth. But he played against some hard people, including Levy. And one time, number one, for a few days, wasn't it? He was number one for a few days. Oh, Jungle Princess. Jungle Queen. Princess, the two-player version. Yes, that's what he played.
    11:01
    And Eric Stone was there in the top four. He was my pick. Yep. He finished third. Third, yes. Levy was second. First. Oh, second. Was he first? He was second. Why is this so difficult? I heard the final four order screwed up multiple times on multiple sources. I don't know why. Jason Zoller was first. First, Levy was second, Eric Stelman was third, and Zach was fourth. Yep. Good tournament. They were finished on time. Anna Walk won the women's. I don't know who won the kids. I don't know who won B.
    11:40
    Sorry. I don't know either. Yeah, they finished on time. Finished on time. Games were torn down pretty quick. Yeah, and by on time, we mean hours before the show actually ended. It was still daylight out. Yes. Well, there wasn't much light because I would say this was the single worst weather I have ever experienced in my, how many, 17, 18 years going to this? It literally rained all day Friday, all day Saturday. Until like 7 o'clock. Yeah, until like the end. And then it finally stopped raining. But it was also in the 40s. Oh, it was miserable. It was cold, dreary. Absolutely miserable shit weather. But for Thursday, it was nice down there. It was sunny, 60 degrees. We were like, wow, I wish it was like this on Friday or Saturday. Yeah, and then when I got back, it's like Sunday. It was beautiful again. It was beautiful. Here I was out hitting a bucket of balls at the golf course.
    12:37
    I was unloading games with Zach and the guys. We got a lot. We filled up a trailer. So you got to play balls at Poppin'. I did. Were you popping balls? I was very popping balls. Thank you, Dennis, for bringing that out. Dennis Cole brought that out. I somehow missed it. I was looking for the damn thing, and I missed it. It was fun. It is a lot of fun. Played great. A little weak on the flippers, but it could be just show power. You know, that always happens. Damn show power. It played really a lot of fun. And when you get those four, five, six, five balls coming out, it's like, woo-hoo! It's a 1956 wide body with multi-ball. Yes. What, six or seven balls? They're called wild balls. Wild balls. You max up to six. You build up your wild ball count. Yep. I think that's what it's called, by hitting stuff. And then you hit this saucer in the center. Saucer center. Multi-ball! Just shoots them out. Just like Centaur. Yep. Because Centaur is based on, yes, on false pop. It was very awesome. Thank you, Dennis, again, for bringing that out. It was a lot of fun. A lot of games we saw there that were some rare ones. A lot of common games, of course. Spooky was there yay with Halloween and Ultraman they sold most of them on the show floor so those were available? yes they were because Joe bought them from Pinball Star and they were like you had to stay to the end of the night I think Pinball Star had the only JJP game there yes which was the one they made in two years you know, so what the hell? That's easy to bring, you know. That's true.
    14:25
    It's just weird that... We were almost on two years, literally, for the same manufacturers. I guess people who own JJP games don't want to bring them to shows. Because it's like, they spend $10,000. It's like, I'm not bringing this $10,000 thing to a show for people to beat on. Screw that. And watch it chip. Watch the plastics break.
    14:43
    And have no flipper power. Well, that's true. That's true. You will have, especially there, you will definitely have No flipper power. No flipper power at all. Play anything new that you said, hmm, maybe I need one of these. No. No, I played Alien, played Cactus Canyon. Cactus Canyon's nice. I'm not going to pay 10 grand for a fucking Cactus Canyon, though. Sorry. I like Cactus Canyon. I like Cactus Canyon a lot. My Vance has one. He has an original. I mean, I'm into Western, so that floats my boat. Lock his lip. What is it? I'm so mad. Hi. So it's a good game. It's fun. It plays great. You know, an alien was there. How many times did it reset on you? Oh, I didn't play it. It reset on me twice. Oh, great. Yeah. And Mark, who has won from the Rochester Pinball Collective, needs a whole new computer. He needs a whole new computer, yes. It's only been one month.
    15:42
    Hey, we're doing this good. Yes, yes. Why couldn't Jersey Jack just make that? Well, he can't because he's making so many JJPs. He's making so many. I mean, even if the play fields were shipping, I mean, at least it wouldn't be resetting 30 zillion times. And the flippers on Alien are already weak. So it's already set. And it's a wide body. Yes. Let's see.
    16:04
    I did. I have to add a game to my list, Bruce. Uh-oh. We talked about this, I think, in the last show. Yeah, what games are left. Yeah. It's a golly. You know what it is. bad girls it's so bad it's good it's fucking awesome holy shit bad sounds bad i got the eight ball and it starts saying something i thought it was saying babe babe babe babe babe that's all i heard but i've been told it's actually saying bad but it doesn't sound anything like that it's so bad it's awesome the art is horrible the cabinet just has mirrors on it it It looks terrible, and it's awesome. And Ron wants one. So if you know of one that somebody's selling or trading. Thank you to whoever brought it. Yes. I played it, and it's like, damn, this plays good. It's probably not for sale then. And I looked. It wasn't for sale. Of course it wasn't because it was actually a well-maintained game. So it wasn't for sale. Yes, it was. A lot of dead games this year again. A lot of dead games. A lot of they left on Friday. A lot of empty spaces on Saturday. Oh, that happens on every show. That happens. Well, not at every show, Bruce. It happens at Allentown. No, it actually happens at a – Not to the degree it happens at Allentown. I'm sorry. Oh, no, because a lot of stuff – it's more of a swap meet. Yes. Allentown is more of a swap meet. If you've never been to Allentown, it is more of like a Carlisle car show. You're going there. You're going in a buy. This is the true blue I'm going to spend me some money. And it is one of the cheapest shows to get into. It is, $20. It's been $20 forever. Yes, for five or six – Seven years now, I think it has been, $20. But some of the games are so broken. Oh, I know. I swear, why would you bring a broken – I know some people, they just want to get in the show for free. Like, really? Is it worth it, saving $20 or $40 to bring your broken game in so it can sit there and just not work? I think what's going to happen next year, and we've talked about it, I've talked about it with Ivan, is one person is going to go around every couple hours, and they're going to now mandatorily have phone numbers on the machines with the tags. Mandatorily. Is that a word?
    18:17
    Mandator. Mandatorily. I think that might be a word. I think it is. I never know with you. Mm-hmm. Okay. And if the machine's down, we're going to call them. If the machine's down more than a couple times, they're not going to be able to come back in for the next time for free play. They have to buy a ticket to get in to get their own game.
    18:37
    That's the way I would do it. But he said, no, he'll tell them to come in and take the game out. I would say, guess what? You're paying now. Since the game's been dead for so long, you get a free ticket.
    18:46
    Like Mark bought Spectrum. Mark bought a Spectrum. Zach was very happy. You should have seen. Zach was smiling, actually, because Zach loves Spectrum.
    18:55
    Yes. You don't like Spectrum? The problem with Spectrum is you just hit the saucer repeatedly. You could ignore the entire rule set and just hit that over and over and play forever. Okay. It's true. Well. But if you play it like the masterminds that it is, because that's the game it is, then it is much more fun. I agree. So he bought it. The left flipper died halfway through Friday. So Friday night, we took it out, as you should do, because we didn't know what was wrong. We brought it back. It's a bad EOS switch.
    19:29
    What else we got? Down there. Oh, Zach got a SkyJump. Of course he did. As a blue. He bought the first pin moment. Well, he bought the first pin moment machine there. He was walking around, saw the SkyJump. Nice colors on the back glass. Usually those reds fade on the back glass. He went around, looked at the play field. It wasn't working. Well, of course. He never buys games that work. But it was a high price value for his game. I'm not going to say how much he paid for it, but he bought it. And in 15 minutes, he had it for working. And then that Friday night, I think he took it down Saturday. He tore it down Saturday. And we tore it down and packed it in the trailer.
    20:07
    Unknown to Ron even, we got another game yesterday. Oh, okay. Yes. We got emailed at the RPC. Well, the RPC, what does RPC stand for, Bruce? Rochester Pinball Collective. Where's that at?
    20:23
    349 West Commercial Street in East Rochester, New York. Suite 2965. Okay, continue. Customer called us, emailed us, said, hey, I have a pinball machine. I'm selling $100.
    20:36
    So $100 pinball machine. You're thinking, what the hell is this? He goes, it's a Fun Park. So Fun Park is a wedgehead from, I think, 69, 68. Let's see.
    20:49
    69. August 1968. It's an okay game. It's got some issues. It doesn't work, of course. That's how all these – but for $100, it's a two-inch flipper wedge head. The wedge head part has a couple cracks in the head. Back glass is pretty good. Playfield's not bad either.
    21:11
    We're getting some parts for it. Zach picked it up on Friday, and we'll see what happens. Good, clean, family fun. Good, clean, family fun, yes.
    21:22
    So I got my games. I helped JT with his. He bought a Stargazer, thanks to me. Oh, yeah, I saw there was a Stargazer there, but it had a sold sticker on it. I'm assuming that was the one in question. That is the one in question. I also bought and sold a Monaco in two minutes. In two minutes. Okay. You bought a Monaco and then realized you'd rather have a Cons instead. No, I bought the Monaco, and Zach goes to me and goes, it's an okay game, but where are we putting it? It's a Sonic for those at home. It is a Sonic. So you know the play field's good, and the cabinet probably sucked. Play field was okay. It wasn't great, but it wasn't bad. The cabinet was actually nicer than the play field. Wow. Yes, it was really solid. Things I never thought I'd hear. Okay. But. Zach's like, you got this, and you're not going to be able to get this in the thing without wrapping a tarp around it in the rain. I'm like, oh, God. so then i knew some of our friends who joe lemire is the collector of sonics i went up to him said hey you want this sold to him it went to massachusetts and there it is it goner so i would have been like i trade you for the hoops You love my hoops George See that would have been what I would have said Next year, Joe, I think hoops is coming to the tournament. Oh, oh my. So I think you'll be playing your ex-hoops. See, I wouldn't mind bringing a game, but the issue is I can only fit one game. Yes, you can. And if you do find something down there, you're screwed. Yes. Well, not just that. they if you bring a game like i would like to go there on thursday yes the thing is if you bring a game you get in and a lot of you guys you're playing games and shit on a thursday before anyone comes in yes it's like yeah i want to do that but i come with my dad they're not going to let him in see unless you bring two games yeah but i can't bring two games because it can't fit two games well hold on i could have this year for you since i was working the show i didn't use my free pass for my free game into the tournament. So I could have gave that to dad. And if you brought down a game, you could have done that. See, what you're saying is you could bring down a game and actually just say it's my dad's game. Yep. There you go. So next year you can come in Thursday. There you go. How does that sound? Then I got to figure out what game to bring in.
    23:48
    It would be an old game. It has to be. It has to be an old game. It has to be something light and easy to move because, you know, my spine is shit. Yes. Ah, what's it called? Spanish ice. that's heavy that is fucking heavy it's heavy bottom it's still heavy I'm thinking more like Meteor Stars maybe Quicksilver ooh people have never played Quicksilver in a while those games are very light because their turn cabinets are very cheap and they're very light Cheetah would be fun it's too big I know but Cheetah would be fun yeah it's too big Cheetah would be fun though I don't bring wide bodies I'm not I can't do wide If me and Zach came out there and helped you bring it in and out. What's wrong with a little Quicksilver? It's okay. It's got the Silver Ball Saloons thing still on it. It does. And JT got a Quicksilver also. JT, by the way, for those at home, is a guy we know. JT Harrison, he's a New York State guy. He lives in Pennsylvania right now. Pennsylvania?
    24:52
    Pennsylvania. I like how he's a New York State guy. You know, I realize New York State is one of the larger states, Bruce. It is. anything. It is. He got a Quicksilver and half a Stargazer. Oh, you went halfsies? I went halfsies. Wait, but don't you already own one? Yeah, so now I own one and a half again. Ah, Jesus. Shouldn't everyone own one and a half Sterns? You have more half-owned games. I do. Yeah. I actually was thinking about this today, and I own half a Stargazer. I own half a Hoops. I own half of a... What's the cocktail me and Zach have. Sharpshooter? Not Sharpshooter or something else. It's like Starshooter or something like that, yeah. Oh, it's not the, what, the Entertainer or whatever the hell? No, no, no, it's not. It's actually one of the rare ones. It's not the cool Night Moves one. No, it's not. I agree. I own half of Gammatron. I now own half of Stargazer, so yeah, I am Mr. Halfsies. Oh, and I own half of Solar Fire. Mr. Halfsies, defender of the pinball code. The pinball world. Yes. What was the Space Ace thing? Defender of justice, truth, and the planet Earth. Planet Earth, yes. Come on, let's hear your Space Ace voice. Kimmy, come on.
    26:08
    Dexter, actually. Dexter. Earthlings must surrender to me. No way, Borf. Oh, I love that. Okay. And they're putting that out on Arcade 1-Up. oh is the pinball machine already been thrown out of the window I'm sorry so that was Allentown was great across the street of course food was Farmer's Market I went for the pretzel hot dogs this time everyone went for the pretzel place yeah it was a madhouse I went to the diner the Amish diner the diner was great in the middle yep that's also good I barely got to hang out with Ron and Dad I saw Dad maybe twice I was mostly in the tournament area fixing games on Saturday. Yeah, me and Dad did our usual Saturday thing where we just play all these EMs we have never played before, and he wins most of them. That's good. Go, Dad, go.
    27:06
    But it was a lot of fun. I had a great time. We filled up the trailer. The trailer literally had space for maybe two heads left. That's it. About pinball heads, not human heads. Okay. No. Okay. But we did get one of those U-Haul 6x12 trailers, and we fit in nine pins. Wow. Yep. So many pins. So much fun. And now the RPC now has overflowing pins in the back. Overflowing pins. So now this month is going to be getting JT's heavy metal. Meltdown. Working, and we have also customers' gold strike. Working. So we have some repairs there. Plus, Zach wants to get SkyJump working. He wants to get this fun park working.
    27:53
    And I got to get my stuff working. Sounds like a lot of stuff you got to get working. Yep, as always. But we did a lot of repairs yesterday. We did some repairs on 9-1-1, Rescue 9-1-1. You made it not suck? No, the switch I had to replace for the on-off.
    28:10
    You made it so it can't be turned on? It could be not turned off. Oh, no. Yes. Oh, that's terrible. Yes, so I had to go inside there and replace the switch, replace some light sockets yesterday, replace the pop bumper skirt. A lot of work. We caught up on some parts since me and Zach have not been there. Literally, I think Zach's missed four weekends out of like six, and I've missed like three out of six. Oh, my God. What kind of owners are you? Fail. Well, now the other guys who are taking our places, they're going on summer vacations. So we'll all even out. Okay. And we will have one little information note on June 1st. We will be going to summer hours. What does that mean? We will be closing early on Saturdays. We'll be closing at 10. Okay. So that will be fun. But we are going to surprise some people with once in a while we're going to be open on Fridays. Whoa. And we have some things coming up for dates for the 24-hour and for our summer league, The RPC First Summer League. But you just said no one wants to play pinball during the summer. That's why we try to get people out. We pull them away and get them out to play pinball.
    29:23
    And people want me to come to Pintastic. I had like five people ask me, you're not going to Pintastic? I was like, ah. You're a celebrity, Bruce. Yeah, I know. You're a pinceleb. Yeah, pinceleb. Maybe I'll just crash in somebody's room and they can get my full snore value.
    29:41
    That could work. I would drive out for that. So what were your thoughts on Allentown? Same as always. Yep. I bought another back glass, too. I didn't buy anything. What? I bought a sheet of back glass. I bought nothing.
    29:59
    I was looking at they had a memory lane back glass there. And I'm sitting there going, he wants $250 for it. I'm like, my memory lane, the back glass is kind of shot, but is the game worth it? No.
    30:14
    But it was a beautiful back glass. So I held off. Maybe I'll have a different idea in York because he always does York also. Oh, I forgot. I did pick up one thing in Allentown that you brought to me. Yes, I did. I did drop it off. The green penises are now in my possession. And he's holding them every night close to his body. Yes, the quicksilver green penises are here. Yes, and what did you think? It looks way better than what I have in the game right now. Vance does a great job. The thing is, though, my game already plays fast as hell. Oh, I know. With that in, I'm just worried things are going to start breaking. Well, luckily you have the unbreakable plastics. The unbreakable plastics, yes. They're unbreakable. That's what it says. That's what the Merco has it. They're unchippable playfields, and then they're unbreakable plastics. I have zero trust in that. our play field our plastic might not chip or break but our play field there you go that's the new motto for the new motto for merco good old merco we're not gonna we're not gonna be able to buy anything else from him you watch he'll sue he'll sue us or something yeah i still need a nine ball play field from him i want to see more of those.
    31:31
    I have a question. Last year at Expo, did he come and sell stuff also or no? Because he used to sell stuff. Who, Virko? Yes. He wasn't there. Well, he was there for the seminar. No, he wasn't. Oh, I thought he was. Remember, he canceled. Oh, that's right. Because of the whole travel shit. Yeah. You know, COVID and all. Hopefully he will, and maybe he'll sell stuff. And I can look at his playfields up close. Or from when he was at TPF there, probably not. Yeah. Am I going to get grilled like that again? Fuck it. I ain't going. But I do need a nine-ball play field. That would be – and I got another cheetah project, my old cheetah project. What? Yeah. Another – how many cheetahs can you have? Oh, who can have more than one? Uh-huh. I have one and a half now again. Okay. Well, let's see. We were talking about JJP only had one game there. Yeah. The rumor is, well, they stopped tours of the factory because they're gearing up for the next game. That's the rumor. Yep. And we all know it's Toy Story. If it isn't, I don't know what the hell is going on. And the other rumor is it may be a Pentastic.
    32:43
    I know Gabe, the guy who runs Pentastic, is kind of hinting at it. He could just be trolling. I mean, it could just be more Guns N' Roses there, but they're heavily hinting that that may be there.
    32:55
    We'll see. Hopefully they're building a lot. So when they're ready to ship more than the hundred that they did last time, which it was more than any really, you know, think about it. Stern doesn't even build them until after they announce or they're the day of then maybe start building, you know, at least last time with JJP, when they were building GNR, they had a hundred, 150 built. They didn't think it was going to be as popular. I think at the beginning, as well, speaking of popular, We talked about this many, like probably a year ago, that what is it? Their LEs are supposed to have a 5,000 limit. Yes. And like, would they come close to that? Yes. Et cetera. And if you've been paying attention, their serial numbers, they seem to be in somewhat sequential order. Somewhat. So we have an idea about how many. How many do you think they've done, Bruce? 3,600. Yeah, it was about 3,600. Yep. So for those that are like, they could get close to that. And we said, like, no, no. They're not going to be close. People think way more of these games get made than they get made. No, no, no, no. No. For two years, 1,800 games is not a wow thing either. You have a problem there when you have a really hot game and you're still only selling 1,800 a year. Look at Stern. Stern is popping that number with three games. It was interesting. I was watching – I don't think I mentioned it. So the RB Flip France dudes, they had a tour of Jersey Jack and they had a tour of Stern. And when I was watching those, they both have large facilities. Yes, very large. But the thing that definitely stood out to me, and I don't know, maybe they had a lull in the production line at Jersey Jack, but there were so many more employees, like line employees in the Stern factory than there were in the Jersey Jack factory. Yes, definitely. We saw that when we took the tour in New Jersey. They didn't have many people. Well, that was so many. They were gearing up. Yeah, that was just before they even started full. Wizard of Oz production, Bruce. Come on. I know, but they didn't seem like they had a plan. And I still don't feel like they have a plan. But there are jobs available at Jersey Jack Pinball. There was like three or four jobs. They had an assembler was one. Logistics was another.
    35:15
    And parts manager. I did see Tim Sexton. He was out at the tournament running the tournament, and I told Timmy, I'm like, hey, I want a job at Stern. I can fix some machines there and be the parts guy. Okay, so you confused the hell out of me. So the job openings were at Stern? Yeah, no, the job openings are at JJP. I told Timmy, ever since Chaz passed away, Stern's part department has been a clusterfuck. You have to email these people. if you try to call, you have to leave a voicemail. Nobody gets back to you. It was, how do I say this properly?
    35:55
    Did you mean nicely or properly? No, properly. Stern's part department with Chaz was one of the best experiences you can have with Stern, besides getting a brand new game and having it perfect out of the box. If you had a problem, Chaz took a phone call, got the information down, got it shipped out to you within a couple days if he had any of the problems he would call you back he was awesome when chas passed away they had no backup plan so they hired literally numbskulls there i don't even know if they actually even knew how to answer a phone because it seems like they never do there and that's one of the biggest complaints i hear from everybody their service part service is just as bad as jjp's is now okay why do you think jjp's part service is bad oh i can go into this one here we go i mean because i i've called them before and i've gotten stuff without an issue yep but here's the funny thing okay when mark he has what two jjps right now it's bruce rant time it's the best jjp ever made oh dialed in yes okay so his game has a year warranty oh is this the trapdoor thing yes it is okay he has a year warranty the trapdoor broke 10 months in yeah he emailed them now now for those at home the trapdoor they use it's the same one that's used on uh like funhouse yes it pops open the problem is with the design the trapdoor has a flap at the end of it when it pops up it hits the wire form above it every single time so it will if you have it dialed in your flap will break off at some point it just will if you look at the mech they are aware of this they doubled up the spring on it to try to make it not come up as hard but it will break off and i had this exact same thing happen to me and i asked them just for the flap and they won't sell just they won't just sell the flap they sold the entire door that I had to pay for. Okay, so a one-year warranty from JJP. My flap broke 10 months in. It's on back order. We're not going to have them in yet. But you would think I put my request in, showed pictures, showed pictures of my serial number and billed. When it was purchased, 10 months in.
    38:21
    About a month ago, Mark gets a bill for $49.95. Mark's like, what the fuck is this all about? So he calls them up. day later they get back to him oh this is a common break problem this is a problem part that breaks so we have to charge you for that what they charge me for the door well you had a warranty or a warranty uh that's probably a warranty then that's that's ridiculous that's like saying buying a car your engine dies but hey engines blow up you gotta pay for it anyway i don't understand Jersey Jack's mentality. I don't know why anybody is buying anything from Jersey Jack. Their playfields ship. Oh, you don't get a new one. Here's your washers. That's newer. But it's still the bullshit. It really is. They won't give you playfields anymore. Their quality control is, we fucked up. We have a bad product, but we'll still bill you for it. Because it's your fault. Because you bought our machine. I don't know anybody else in the world that does this. And if they do, they usually aren't in business that long. That is the problem with Jersey Jack pinball. So he complains, says, well, this is ridiculous. I was under warranty. Your warranty says one year. Finally, Mark had to pay cost on it. And I won't say what the cost was, but it was significantly less than $49.95.
    39:44
    He gets it. The decal's on backwards. You'll never see the decal, but that's how bad their quality control is there. The decal was on backwards, and then he looks on the pin side. Three other people had the same problem. Whoever was putting the decals on that day was doing it incorrectly. Yep. Go Jersey Jack pinball.
    40:09
    I'm looking forward to Toy Story, though. I'm not. Oh. I would rather buy. Here we go. Oh, boy. Here we go. I would rather buy Alien than a Jersey Jack pinball. Oh, wow. You know why? No, no, no, no. At least they respond to you. At least they get fix your problem or try to fix your problem free of charge. They do. They may send the parts to the wrong area of the country. They might send the wrong parts to the country, but guess what? They're trying to fix it. But they will replace your computer as many times as they have to replace it until they go out of business. Yes. Exactly. But guess what? They're owning up to their responsibilities of a manufacturer. They know their stuff sucks. Jersey Jack knows their stuff sucks, and they're still going to try to charge you for it. Oh. It's terrible. I love my dial, Dan. I'm psyched because, I mean, by far the best playing Jersey Jacks are all Lawler games. So I'm looking forward to Toy Story. Yeah. It's just, it's terrible. Now, Ron, would you rather buy a Jersey Jack or a Stern? A Rush? Okay. A Rush Premium or Guns N' Roses? Rush. Okay. But that's not fair. It wouldn't matter who made that. If Stern made Guns N' Roses and it's the same game and Rush made – yeah, let me try it again. Jersey Jack made Rush and it was the same game it is, I would get the Rush. Okay. Rush or Dialed In?
    41:37
    Ooh. Oh. I really like Dialed In. Okay. Okay, so you're sticking to your guns. I stick to my Dialed In guns. I love my Dialed In. Okay. So you're going to be first online for Toy Story if it is. The thing is, I want to play it just because Pat Waller knows how to do a play field. As good as anyone who has ever done a play field. So I want to play Toy Story.
    42:04
    Here's the surprise. I've never seen any of the Toy Story movies. So the theme does nothing. I don't care. I just want to shoot that game. And he's talking to the person that actually has a Toy Story tattoo. I'm sorry.
    42:19
    Is it Woody? No, no. Buzz Lightyear? No, I have to infinity and beyond. Oh, okay. I don't want to know where that is. It's in a secret area. Is it in your asshole?
    42:37
    It's on each cheek. To infinity and any other cheek and beyond. There's a black hole out there somewhere.
    42:51
    Okay. Don't forget, Steve Ritchie made great play fields until like five years ago. What are you saying, asshole? I still made it. You're getting older. You might be having the same problems. They wouldn't give me the correct budget. Yeah, that's got to be it. They wouldn't give me enough money. That's why my play fields suck. It's going to be great now in 2026 when my first game comes out. I talked about it with somebody at the show. So Star Wars would have been a better game if it didn't plunge in the middle, if it didn't shoot out the middle. If it went all the way up top into the pop bumpers, it would have been a ten times better game. Wait a minute. Okay. Everyone brings up that shot. It's terrible. What about like Whirlwind? You plunge, drop targets. If it drains, you don't get it back. What's the difference? I agree with that. What's the difference? Because the problem is the way we fix it, it's turned, is doing software, software, software. Iron Maiden, a skill shot, same deal. Yep. What's the difference? Well, guess what? It's not a death plunge. It's not. You can make it not a death plunge. You have options. You soft plunge it. You soft plunge it, and you hope that you're going to get on your flipper. At least on Whirlwind, I can do a full plunge and mostly go around the ramp, right or wrong. That's true. Yeah. You don't get that choice on Steve Ritchie. You have to either try to judge your plunge, bounce off the press. Plunge better, asshole. Yeah, no. It's called employability. No, we'll just make the software have ball saves for up to two to three times. Well, yeah, once and then later twice when enough people complain. Yes. That's how bad that is. If it went up top to the pop bumper area, the game would have been ten times better.
    44:33
    It would have been. You mean the completely unused pop bumper area? Yeah, exactly. So I would have rather – I wish pinball designers, if you're listening out there, stop making the three pop bumpers.
    44:46
    They're just there. They're just there to take up time. They do nothing. I like Steve. I mean, I like Keith. One pop bumper. I can't believe they let him do that. That's how you know he's killing it at Stern, if they let him do a single pop bumper. Yep. You watch Steve. Keith's going to put a pop bumper right in the middle, like old Freedom prototype. And it'll be great. Spanish eyes. Yeah, Spanish eyes. That would be great And somehow he gets away with it Like okay Everyone going to be like this is the best thing since sliced cheese Keith did it It the greatest thing ever Wow, he invented this. Like, no, no.
    45:24
    But it would be accepted. I don't know. But if Star Wars did plunge all the way to the top, it would have been a better game.
    45:34
    You got to admit with me on that one. You got to kind of agree with me. Okay. So that's enough for Jersey Jack. Enough Jersey Jack bashing here. Oh, Jesus Christ. Between the play fields and everything else. Let's go to American Pinball because there's some news there. Okay.
    45:48
    Josh Kugler, the programmer, he's gone. He is gone. From American Pinball, which I – You got it expected. I heard – well, yeah, I heard it like a week, week and a half before it was announced. But we – actually, I knew it on the last episode. But we had no confirmation, so I didn't say anything. But I guess it's somewhat confirmed now. He's gone.
    46:05
    But who's there – I mean, isn't What's-His-Face still working there? kind of as um because i i know he worked on cactus canyon but i believe he's just he's contractor yeah contractor what the hell's his name he's from virginia joe shover yes because i know he was an american but then he did cactus canyon yep and then people were like oh is he gone and he's like no i'm still doing games there so he's kind of like a freelancer at this point so he could still be doing games there you could still be doing games i agree but i um josh was like a full-time employee. So do they have a full-time programmer now? I mean, they have Steve Bowden, but he's not a programmer. Nope, he's a rules designer. He can design the rules, but he can't program it. So it's interesting. The other interesting American Pinball news is they hired Brian McQuaid. Who will you be like, who's that? That's the Sonic guy. He's the guy who did the Sonic homebrew. So I guess we're probably getting a Sonic pinball machine. No, because they didn't get the license. I know. They hired him. They went to get the license, and another pinball company already has it. Whoops.
    47:16
    That backfired. But the thing is, who do you think has it? Stern. You think Stern has it? So Stern's going to do a Sonic pinball? Okay. No, they just bought it. They bought it to block. Wait a minute. They bought it to block. So you think they're cock-blocking other manufacturers? They've done it already. I mean. They've done it in the past, haven't they? They probably saw the Sonic and said, hey, guys, for $5,000 or $20,000, we might be able to buy this cheap license that no one's going to think about before somebody else hires them, and they try to do it. So you think it's Stern? Oh, yeah. I heard it's not multimorphic. No. It's HomePen.
    47:56
    Oh, God. Is HomePen the ultimate you-don't-want-them-to-get-your-theme? Yeah, I don't know. Well, now with Spinal Tap 2 coming out. Spinal... what? Oh, you didn't hear? They're breaking them all back? They're going to be like old?
    48:12
    Spinal Tap 2 movie is starting production. Oh, Jesus. They're all still alive. Yes, they are. What is it? Christopher Guest,
    48:21
    Harry Shearer, and I can't remember the other guy's name. It's in the works with Rob Reiner, Michael McKean. Oh, God, Rob Reiner. Oh, Jesus.
    48:30
    It goes to 12. It goes to 12 now instead of 11. It will be released on March 19, 2024. So that will be about the time when, what's his name, gets a pinball machine out. Maybe that's Steve Ritchie's new game, Spinal Tattoo. Play better. It will be about the time when Home Pin gets their pin out. Do you hear what the rumor is for the Steve Ritchie game? I've heard it multiple places now. Elton John.
    49:01
    Crickets. Are you okay, Bruce? Haven't we had two Elton John pins already? Well, only one, Captain Fantastic. No, we've had two. What, the home one? Yep. Jesus, it's the same. It's also called Captain Fantastic, Bruce. And the Dirt Brown Cowboy. Yes, I'm sorry. I didn't get the full title. Yes, you did not. Okay. I was thinking the next pinball should have been Top Gun 2.
    49:25
    What's it called, though? It's called something different. Yes, Top Gun. That would have been a great one. Video footage from the thing. Let's make it F-14 Tomcat 2. Yeah, see? That should have been... Or Gold Wings 2. Ooh. Because they were all basically based on Top Gun. Yep.
    49:42
    Okay. But that would have been cool, huh? Mm-hmm. Yes, so Spinal Tap 2 is coming out in 2024. That'll be when Home Pin's going to release their Spinal Tap pinball, and you see... No! Isn't it supposed to be already out? Well, no. They've only given spy shots, like of little areas. It's going to take them two more years? Yeah, definitely. Jesus. Okay. wow uh did you hear there was a stern flood yes and they posted it why yeah that was weird at the hey we know we're way behind in all production we just want to let you know we had a flood but it didn't affect anything no but why would we post it we're going to show a picture of the water on the floor yes i didn't understand that one that's that's like saying oh somebody had an accident in the bathroom and don't slip and fall. You know, the edge of my Godzilla play field looks like it's slightly warped, almost like water hit it. Like the back of my cabinet's chipping and peeling.
    50:42
    But it's like, why would you do that? A slow day on social media? I guess. I don't understand some of these social media guys. I really don't. Well, you're old. Oh, so you understood it then perfectly since you're so much younger than me. I am younger than you. And you understood it perfectly. I didn't get why they did that. Thank you. I don't get why they show you anything. It should all be secret.
    51:10
    Secret. Well, it's funny how sometimes they post stuff like, oh, look at this guy's game room. And then they have locations that have like 20 sterns, and I barely post about them. And I'm like, why aren't you? You mean like when I showed my row of sterns and sent it to their game room of the week, and I still didn't win? I know, exactly. How many fucking Sterns do I need? Are these not the right kind of Sterns? Of course not.
    51:35
    All Sterns, baby. I think I even had the Spider-Man in the row at that time. It's like, there, there's a new one. What's the rule? If you don't have the newest one, it just doesn't matter. Oh, okay. Like Gary Stern? His favorite game is whatever's on the line. The line. You got it. Okay.
    51:53
    Gary, get back to us. Yeah, get back to us, Gary. Come on, Gary. We want you. Uh, we're almost up to six years, Ron. Are we? Yeah. Was it? Oh, yeah. June. June 2016. Wow. Yeah. That's right. Pentastic is kind of where it started. It's Mark. That's that's where the our logo was taken. Kind of. Yeah. Yes. That's where I got the idea.
    52:19
    Wow. Six years. That's a long time. Yeah, I know. That's a lot of podcasts. A lot of fucking podcasts. And the same two guys. We haven't changed personnel or anything. No, we're still stuck with each other. Like fucking two hemorrhoids and a butt. Two hemorrhoids and a butt.
    52:35
    One side says to infinity and the other says to beyond. Okay. What else do we got here? Let's go to the ball bag. Ball bag? Let's go to the ball bag. I thought you did repairs. No, I still got more. You still got more. Okay. I still got the games. Okay. Go repair the games. Now that's an actual game. The games. The games by Gottlieb. Yes, and I did sell the pinball. Well, you sell a lot of pinballs, Bruce. No, I sold pinball. Yes, you sell a lot of pinballs. Yes, I sold electronic pinball. Well, yeah, you're not an EM guy. No, but I sold a Stern electronic pinball. Okay, which one? Stern electronic pinball. Who's on first? What's on second? It is actually called electronic pinball. If you look at the manual for Stern pinball. It says electronic pinball on it? Electronic pinball. Oh, Jesus Christ. Good job, Stern. Real inventive name. Yes. But yes, I sold my... That actually went and left for Allentown. We had a lot of people come up to us at the show and actually say hi. So it was cool to see. So wait a minute. You sold it at Allentown? Yes. Oh, yes. And I had a couple people come up to me at Allentown. Thank you. And try to hug you? Well, no. They said, love the show. And I always ask, which one? And they say both. And I feel happy. Which one do they say? They always say both, Bruce. Wow. Because I'm on two podcasts. The other one is Silver Ball Chronicles. New episode coming out soon. Be sure to listen for it on the Pinball Network.
    54:06
    Shut up. No class at all. Can't even let me get my plug in for my other show. Nope. Nope, I haven't heard a plug from you guys in a while. Hey. We only, wait a minute, I plug every single episode. The episodes are monthly. What do you want? I know. So you should be doing double plugs because we are at least on twice here.
    54:27
    I should do double plugs? One in the beginning, one in the end. Yes. Beginning, one in the end? Okay. Yes. True? No. You get two here in a month. Do you or do you not? Well, there's usually two slam tilts for every one Silver Ball Chronicles. Thank you. So you should be doing two plugs on one Silver Ball Chronicles. Damn you, math. Okay. Math works. Repairs. Games. I have no 60 volts for my displays. Oh. Wait a minute, 60 volts for the displays? 60 volts for Gottlieb displays. Oh, Gottlieb, that's right. Yes. They were smart. They used low voltage displays. They did use low voltage. That's one thing they did right. I do like those volts. The displays are nice. Yeah, they last forever. Yeah, they do, until they have a short in them. Oh. Pulled all the displays off and plugged one in at a time.
    55:17
    One's bad, and it's a seven digit. One person makes replacements for these. The Boston Pinball Company. Wait a minute. So one person in the entire world makes Gottlieb replacements? Yes. Oh, no. Wow. Seven digit. Okay. Six digit, you have a couple. You have the Wolf Pack and a couple other guys. One only does seven digit. The Boston Pinball Company. You can get all five displays for $269.
    55:46
    I'm going to be looking for one used display. So if anyone knows it has a seven-digit Gottlieb display that works, message us here at... Slamtailpodcast at gmail.com. There we go. Remember, there's a lot of really shitty Gottliebs out there that could really sacrifice themselves for better Gottliebs. Yes, like the games.
    56:07
    So that's one of the things. We also have to get a CPU board for Countdown. And we'll probably be going with the Flipper one. The flipper one. Flippers. Flippers, whatever it's called. So what are the different options? Like why not fix the original? Oh, it's that bad. Oh. It's that bad. It's got a lot of Fs. What are your options? I could go Noomf. F. Gottlieb. Let's look up Gottlieb. I'm just curious because they have a lot of options for their System 1 boards. System 1 they do. System 80? There's not that many. and 80A replacement. And there's actually one place that makes this a System 3 boards now, which is also that Boston Pinball Company. Wow, your lights, camera, action can live again.
    57:01
    Rotten Dog also makes a System 80. Flip. F-L-I-P-P-P makes them. That's the one I used last time in the Godly. That is an all-in-one board. For System 1, they have the all-in-one board, and they have an all-in-one board for System 80 and 80As, Flip does. You can also just get the CPU board for any replacement pop bumper boards and the sound boards. And it's not that bad of money. $399 euros, which converts to...
    57:31
    Europe loves their Gottliebs. Yes, they do. Not the pounds. I don't want pounds. I want euro. Euro what? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. That's right. $415. That's not bad. Your euro has come down a lot, so it's only $415. So we're almost right at $1.04, not too shabby. So the flipper, I'd get one of those, and I do need a pop bumper replacement board for one of my Gottliebs. So that might be the next piece I need also. But they're out of stock, of course. Why the fuck would you have something that I need?
    58:09
    There's this thing called part shortages due to the pandemic and all this. I keep on hearing this now, crap. I mean, like color DMD right now, you can't get color DMDs because the chips they need. Because they're all in lockdown in China. Yeah. They can't get the chips to make them. I know. Oh, I know. So those are my two repairs that I need to do, and then I have to start taking apart Hot Tip.
    58:34
    You want a little Hot Tip, big boy? On that note, ball bag. All right. You get some hot tip right into the ball bag.
    58:48
    Derek emailed us telling us that the incandescent light bulbs will be banned. They'll be gone by July 2023. They will be. And what am I going to do, Ron? Oh, my God. I have a couple choices to do. You know what I did? What? I bought 1,000 bulbs the past two weeks. Okay. So I know where to go for bulbs if I need them. Yes. And you know how much I paid for each bulb? How much are your LED bulbs? Stop. No, no, no. Please tell me. How much are LED bulbs per one? I don't know. I'd have to look them up. You're just going to say how they're like one cent a bulb or something. No, I pay 12 cents a bulb. Oh, my God. $1.20 a box. And they're the Ecos.
    59:28
    Yeah, the wonderful. No, there's worse ones out there. The ones that are from Pinball Life in the white box, they're like $6 for a box of 100.
    59:38
    Those are terrible. Oh, okay. Those are the worst wings since, oh, God. So are they from China instead of Mexico? Yes.
    59:48
    Olé, we make a boom today. Oh, boy. Wow, we just offended everyone. You did like some kind of Italian-Mexican hybrid there. That was very bizarre. Olé, we make a bimbo today. How you doing? What's going on? Have a pizza. Yes, yes. You're getting your ethnicity screwed up there, but yes. And your point. Okay. Thank you, Derek. All right, Eric. He's the one that wanted me to come out to Pintastic. Well, everyone does. Okay, we have our Scott. Hi, Scott. He's responding to the Johnny Mnemonic bug we talked about. Ooh. He said, all that has to be done is to eliminate the 40 million score from dropping it in back into the box. Into the thing, yeah. That makes sense. And he says, what Kaylee did was cheating. I kind of agree. He says, tilting ball off BSD isn't cheating, in my opinion. The Tilt timeout is set to allow this. So there you go. The great Scott has spoken. We're going to get him on again. And I'm actually going out to a couple people this weekend to get more guests on. So we have a couple plus. We're going to try to get some more people on. You just don't want to hear us. That's kind of boring. Or maybe you do. Let us know. I don't know. You can email us at slamtiltpodcast at gmail.com. Second plug. let's see, what do we got here?
    61:11
    We have a show report from Rabia. Ooh! He phonetically spelled his name, so hopefully I didn't screw it up again. He did a field report for us for a show we couldn't go to. See, so honestly, he's our, what's it called, the eye in the sky, the field reporter. He is our man on the boots on the ground. Boots on the ground, there we go. And the Midwest Gaming Classic. Which was a big show. I saw the pictures. It looked big. I, Ron and Bruce, hope you are both well and in good health. We are now, since we got over COVID. Yes. First, he will levy his disappointments. Yes. He's starting at, well, actually, first off, big thank you to the tournament organizers, Tom Graff and Rachel Lilge, I hope I said that right, for making it possible, Lilge, by donating their time and machines. But then he immediately starts off with his disappointments. So he's right. This is the Stamptelt way. Let's see. No weird Al Pinball machine. It's multimorphic. Did not have a presence. I did try it at Allentown. And? It was okay. Okay. You didn't hate it? That's like... I just don't like the feel of the more... I don't... I like the sounds from it. The sounds were the best part. Jersey Jack Pinball, oh, God, had very little presence. A couple of Guns N' Roses in that. They had more than they did at Allentown. As compared to their show-stopping presence at MJC 2019, which was the Wonka reveal. Yeah. Understandably, this is probably due to Toy Story not being ready.
    62:39
    Spooky Pinball's booth was done really well. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with their booth. With the hedge and the big Michael Myers thing. Halloween and Ultraman machines were all available. Played both. Liked both okay. Liked Halloween better. I actually almost cut myself on the knife shooter knob. It must be that good quality again. Very sharp corners, beware. Vendor Hall, filled with gaming stuff from board games, video games, was excellent. These people bring their passions, and I like how it mixes nicely with pinball.
    63:08
    See, having three levels of stuff to explore was also cool. Sounds like they stay – I know they're in a different hotel. They're a new hotel from when I went there, but it sounds like they take over the whole hotel still. There was a cool setup of an arcade and a carpeted ballroom complete with DJ and disco lighting.
    63:28
    Let's see there. Beatles, Godzilla, Cactus Canyon, and Rush set up. Nice. Marco, as usual, had a great setup with Insider Connected and Top Score Display and plenty of Godzillas and Avengers and Rush.
    63:39
    See, general pinball machines brought in from others were limited, but good selection. Played Meteor for the first time. Really cool. Good boy. Got to play Meteor. Yes. Maybe the best classic Stern game you can possibly play. No. No? What's better than Meteor? Stars.
    63:57
    Stars. Is that the only thing better than Meteor? Yes. No, no, no. There's a couple more. Meteor's not as high on the list as you is.
    64:07
    Cheetah? No, Meteor's better than Cheetah. No way. You cannot. It's Steve Kirk. Steve Kirk, bow down. Multiple spinners. He only did one spinner. That's the problem with that game. Wait a minute. Okay, Cheetah has the one spinner you never hit. I hit it a lot. Okay. Okay. General Pinball. Oh, I did that one. Clock Chaos on Friday night was like a pump and dump for three hours. The top scorers going into finals. No surprise, Steve Bowden was a top four finisher. I played. Hi, Steve. I think they had that when I was there the last time. Clock Chaos. It was fun, but definitely chaotic as machines were dispersed across the floor. Yeah, they did the same way then. Having to wait in line and strategize what games were worth trying. So it sounds like it's the same format it was when I did it. Let's see. Main tournament. You had to sign up ahead of time. Cut off at 64 players. I did not make it to the finals. the competition was tough. The machine selections were an excellent mix of modern EM, DMD machines, including weird ones like Torpedo Alley. Woo-hoo! I like Torpedo Alley. Of course, Harlan Globetrotter is my new favorite EM. Wait a minute. Not an EM. It's not an EM. Solid State. It's a Solid State. But I like Torpedo Alley. I like Torpedo Alley a lot. I like Torpedo Alley. I like Secret Service. Yeah. I like a lot of those really early Data East games. Except for Playboy. Playboy's terrible. Oh, the Data East one? Yeah. Oh, it's terrible. Tournament setup was just outside the main hall. Many, many people passed us coming off the escalators and adjacent to the MJC main stage where we were subjected to loud rock music. And twin harpists. What the fuck's that? Twin harpists. Wow. Bling, bling, bling. All playing hits like Game of Thrones theme, Mario Brothers soundtracks, etc.
    65:48
    The winner was our very own Andy Bagwell. He's a, like, District A2 guy. Yes, he is. If you haven't heard of him, he's... Oh, you haven't heard of him? I have. He's a solid player and quickly rises to the ranks of IPA. he should be top 50 now. Pretty much anyone at District 82 who's really good is going to be in the top 50. Yes, exactly, because it is just a cash grab. He knows rule strategy. He knows he's willing to share knowledge with others. I say his super skill is the ability to strategize and play in the moment despite the competitors and our machine variability, which brings me to a question for both. What is your super skill in pinball?
    66:25
    Fixing. I think he means more for playing. Nope. I used to have accuracy. Now it's gone. Yeah, I have no accuracy. My nudging is subpar.
    66:35
    I know rules. I suck at rules. Wow, what is my super skill? Oh, I have a short memory. What? Exactly. Gotcha. I didn't say deaf, but yeah. I have a short memory. That comes from years and years of playing golf. Typically, I can get an eight, get a snowman on one hole, and then par the next one because I forgot the last hole already. And you have to do the same thing in pinball. In the finals, I had a game. What was it? I think it was Dragon Fist. First two balls, house ball. Never touched either of them. You've got to be able to get over that.
    67:07
    Or I had Star Trek. They had the ball savers off. So my first two balls, I drained immediately. And in the third ball, I came back to advance. There you go. So, yeah, that would be my super skill. See, he says, overall, I'm glad I'm attended. It was well worth the drive from Chicago. Next time, I hope to see bigger show from pinball vendors.
    67:30
    Reporting for Slam Tilt. Yes. See? Robbie Oz reporting for the Slam Tilt podcast for Chicago. Keep on flipping in the free world. Yep. Thank you, sir. Flipping in the free. Thank you. We have our On the Boots reporter. On the Boots reporter, yes. Do you know what Zach current ranking is of our own Zachary Our own Zach I do not know what his current ranking is Do you know what my current ranking is You are Hold on Now, these are the IFPA player rankings, ladies and gentlemen, that we're talking about. Yes. The way we measure ourselves against everyone. You are 173. And I was born at 73. Amazing.
    68:11
    Zachary is 118. Wow. But you're still leading New York. Uh, yeah, somehow. When is New York City going to start having more events so they can overtake me? No, it's more, it's, most of the people are, there's a lot of New York City events, but most of it is from, uh, the middle guys are all from, uh, Rock Fantasy. The funny thing is, a lot of the victories that I have are all at my own house, so it's kind of fake. Jinxed. Jinxed. Yeah, it's fake. Let's see.
    68:43
    To do next email, we have, this is from Dan. Oh, and this goes to the thing we brought up. In the Deep Root movie, who should play all the characters? Okay, I like this. So he's got everything set up here. So here we go. Dan says, hi, butt wads.
    69:01
    Here's the cast for Deep Root, a pinball disaster. Kevin James is Robert Mueller. We got that one. We did get that one. Cuba Gooding Jr. is Stephen Bowden. There you go. I like that one. Nick Offerman is Dennis Nordman. That looks like it could work. Oh, here's my favorite. Gary Busey is John Poppett. Crazy, stupid, dumb.
    69:23
    Love it. Bill Murray is Barry Osler. There you go. I like that one. And we have Ryan Reynolds is Cary Hardy and the Deep Six. Sounds like a band. I don't like that one. You don't think Ryan Reynolds should play him? And he sent pictures, too. Yes, he did. nah i don't give terry hardy that much wow power as everyone else does let's see uh soren actually he he chimed in on this because unfortunately the age does not match but i'd say that kevin dunn would create a spectacular robert mueller i looked him up kevin dunn he fucking looks like robert mueller's twin except like he said an older version but he looks just like robert mueller I'm looking at him right now. Yeah, I was like, oh, my God. Oh, yeah, oh, my God. Like, holy shit. Yes. That's him. Yes, it's him. Totally agree. Soren says, for J-Pop, it's obvious it should be Weird Al.
    70:19
    No, we want to root for Weird Al. You don't want to root for J-Pop. Oh, my God, that is funny. Weird Al is a heel? I don't see it. Maybe he'll play against Hype, and it'll be amazing.
    70:34
    Okay, thank you, everyone, for that. That was good. People listened. I love when people listen to us. It doesn't happen often. It scares me. It scares the blank out of me. Yes. Steve, Steve Daniels. Hi, Steve. Hi, Steve Daniels. I love Steve Daniels. Steve Daniels is the, he runs the Vermont, what's his exact name? I want to make sure I'm saying it right. Well, I'll say the perennial Vermont state champion, Steve Daniels. Yes. That sounds good. But he has his own place. Mm-hmm. Sing it up. Calm down. I'm very calm, Bruce. The pinball co-op. There you go. Hi, Steve. Steve says, a new segment idea. Games you don't want to play at shows, even though they are fun, because there is so little chance it will play well. Yes. Most of them.
    71:21
    Basically, anything that's not a new Stern. Yeah. You will probably be disappointed. Wait, people were not disappointed with Dragon Fist. They were very happy with the fist. They took the fist in style. Jesus. They smiled when the fist came back at him. I did. I said I wasn't going to play it, and I did play it in qualifying and had like 700K. Yeah, Mark got over 1 million, and Levy got 1.5 million on it. Steve nominates Card Whiz Royal Flush. I have to agree with him on this one. You can barely hit the drop targets. It's like, ugh. There are some games that are still fun when flippers aren't 100%, posts are loose, a few switches and bulbs don't work. Card Whiz Royal Flush is not one of those games. I totally agree with Steve. Steve nailed it. Next Gen.
    72:07
    Yes. It almost never plays right. Of course, if Zach was here, he would say, it doesn't matter if it plays right. It still sucks. It's always a fun show. Any Jersey Jack game at a show? Oh, a show to forget about it. Because it just has no flipper power. You can't hit anything. Any Star Wars at a show? No. Just because Star Wars sucks. Incorrect. Nope. Not at all. I think people will agree with me on that one.
    72:27
    I mean, the whole reason I own a F-14 Tomcat is because I played so many of its shows, and I never thought it played good. So I, it's like, this is a Steve Richard game. It has to play better than this. And it did. And he bought it and then he sold it. No, I still have it. You still have it? Still have it. My 14, that's still here, baby. I fixed the damn beacon on it, finally. Finally? After like 10 years. Finally. Yes. That's the one I, I would like to get one of those again. But then again, he is right in that there's some games, a lot of those 90s Williams games, man, you can't kill them. You can't kill them. Even, But mostly Johnny Mnemonics, I don't like at shows either, or to shadow. Usually those are so beat up at shows. Anything that's mechanically complicated, it probably won't work.
    73:12
    But like Monster Bash, at our league, the local, you love the place, the name of the place, right, the local, the flippers are so weak, the left one especially, you can't make anything. So I have a challenge, like how many things can I hit with just the right flipper? and it's still fun, even with basically a useless flipper.
    73:34
    So, yeah, that's a good question. I like that. Thanks, Steve. Next, a request. We have a request. Okay. Oh, yeah, I did this one. This is from Joe.
    73:49
    He sent an email to us asking if we could submit our podcast to something I'd never heard of before, TuneIn Radio. Okay. So I did. And we were accepted. Yay! So we're all set. We're on TuneIn Radio now, whatever that is. That's cool. TuneIn on TuneIn Radio. There you go. The podcast. So there you go, Joe. You're all set. Thank you, sir.
    74:14
    If anyone else has anything we have to submit it to, tell us. Godzilla versus Smog Monster. Thank you for that. Yeah, I didn't see the video, though. I never saw the video. That's Hetero, by the way, Smog Monster. The American title was Smog Monster. Uh, let's see. Our last email is from John Coss and Dr. John, Dr. John. It was like Dr. Dirty. John Clawson. Dr. Dirty. Uh, he's got a new, he's got the Aussie podcast now. What's he have? I didn't hear that. You didn't hear that. No, it's on the pinball network. Well, I don't know if it's permanently on the pinball network, but it's, it's the Aussie, the Aussie podcast.
    74:54
    Yes. It's all talking about how cheap games are down there. and how easy are our games to get. And lots of clips from Australian movies and stuff. And, yes, it's for Aussies, if you will. Cool. Congratulations. So check that out. He finally got a pop guard because of it. Good job, John. He got what? A pop guard. Did you ever listen to his reports on the pinball show? Yes. I don't know if I can replicate it here, but he would say, pinball, pinball, pinball. Oh, so he got a pop guard. I was like, get a pop guard. And then I saw you got a pop guard. I avoid the word P, like pinball. I don't say that that much.
    75:38
    What does it say? Got to share how great the obstacles look in this official Slam Tilt game. It is the official. It is the official Slam Tilt game. It looks very bright. It does. I'm looking at it right now. Thanks to all you mod makers that keep coming up with new technology for old games. He has a question. What is the best paint to touch up the stars on the drop targets? Leave them original. Do you need a clear coat? Well, he's going to paint them. Do you need a clear coat, triple thick, for example, over the top to protect it?
    76:09
    I don't know much about paint. I don't know either, and I'm afraid you're going to change to. You can ask, though. You know someone who would know, someone who does touch-ups for a living. Ashley, I'll see her today at our league, our ending of our. So if Bruce remembers, we'll get back to you on that one. Yes. Because she touches up. This is what she does, just touch-ups. High-level touch-ups. So what did you think of it with the obstacles? But as far as you can put Mylar over it when you're done painting it. You can do that, too. A little thing of Mylar.
    76:39
    I mean, they look bright. They do look bright. I'd have to see them in action, like actually. The problem with stars is it doesn't have much of an attract mode. No, no, no. It's not like you can look at it and go, ooh, they look pretty. It's just very. Ding, ding, ding, ding. and half the lights don't even work in the attract mode. Yeah, it's a very boring attract. Yeah, Stern did that. Very annoying on a Stern game. If you want to, he's like, I wonder if all the lights are working. Well, I have an attract mode. Well, this light isn't going off. It doesn't go off in attract mode. What? No, but I mean, half the lights don't even work in the attract mode. Half. Yeah. Well, yeah, it's an early game, Bruce. They got a little better.
    77:16
    I agree. Thank you, Dr. John. Thank you. I do like the lobsicles. Okay. so let's get on to the next subject let's see i wanted to throw this out here the news about norma jennings yes unfortunately that's very sad norma jennings had a uh stream and it was she had terminal cancer so she had a stream that was basically about cancer and pinball pinball and cancer and she passed away i think last week yes she did i'm so sorry you know uh cancer you I used to watch the stream, and then I remember the last one she did where it had last stream for a while, and I was like, uh-oh. Because you knew at that point. And I watched it, and she was sitting on a stool, which she never sat. She always stood. Yeah. So the fact that she was like, ugh, this isn't good. No. And it was literally a few weeks later. Yeah. She went to hospice. Yeah. But yes, rest in peace, Norma. Yes. So sad. For her whole family and everyone else. We've lost too many people. Yes, we have. This is getting annoying. Well, I'm going to bring some fun up to the whole world. You're going to bring some fun up to the whole world. Okay. Hold on. I've got to look it up. He has to look up fun. Yes.
    78:34
    Go to deathclock.com. Wait a minute. How is this fun? Oh, this is fun. Okay. I'm going to deathclock.com. Yep. Okay. So you put in your birth date. you tell them you're male or female and put all your information in under mode it has normal pessimistic sadistic or optimistic what would you say you are uh oh i'm a pessimist then me too so i said the same thing i'm almost sadistic but i did pessimistic so i have a date of birth month of birth year of birth sex mode which is a pessimistic uh bmi less than 25 yeah i'm ripped Smoking status, non-smoker. Okay. And check your death clock. When are you going to die? Your personal date of death is Wednesday. Wait a minute. Wednesday, May 19th, 2027. Yep. Holy shit. You're dying after me, though. I have five years to live. I only have four. Wow. I am April 8th. Damn. Yeah, see? So that's what pessimism does. Okay. If I'm optimistic, let's see. Yeah, let's see. Wow, I'm going to live to 2068. Yeah. Now I'm a sadistic. My time's expired already. I'm dead.
    79:57
    Wow. Let's see if I'm an optimistic now. I can live till 2054 if I'm optimistic. This is so fun, Bruce. Or if I'm normal, I live to 2040. I like that it has a skull and he's like smiling.
    80:12
    He's a happy skull. Jeez. Okay. All right. I think we found a new title. No. Death Clock. No. That's actually, isn't that the name of the band from, what was it called? That is the name of them, Death Clock. Yeah.
    80:30
    It's Brandon Smalls. What was the name of the show? I couldn't tell you. Let's look. It had the Roxo, the rock and roll clown. He loves cocaine.
    80:42
    You never saw that? Death Clock band. Adult Swim yeah on their series Metalocalypse yes yeah Roxo I'm Roxo the rock and roll clown I do cocaine yeah that's literally what he's just going I do cocaine yes very funny I recommend it and it has a pinball tie-in because it's Brandon Small he did the voice of Jackie from Jack in the Box and Aerosmith and Sparky in Metallica mm-hmm All right. What have I got left here? You wanted to talk about coming tournaments, and then we'll end it there. Yeah. Because this is like tournament weekend when we're recording. This weekend alone, they had multiple tournaments at District 82. Delaware. Pinball Collective. Pinball Collective is having their big – they're having their Whopper. Yeah. Whopper whoring event. All weekend.
    81:43
    I think there's one in California. I noticed there's a Golden State Pinball Festival or something going on. It's the old Pinnagogo.
    81:51
    Okay, there you go. That's exactly what it is. Yeah, all going on this weekend. Yes. So you have the East Coast, West Coast, and the middle of the country all getting whoppers. So what's going on at RPC, Bruce? We're going to be having our Summer League coming up soon, and we're going to finalize the date today for the 24 hours. and we're going to actually be open Thursday, Friday, Saturday and possibly Sunday. We don't know what's going on yet. Sunday will be because we're going to start Saturday to Sunday.
    82:23
    We're going to be living at the RPC for a weekend. I think it's going to be Friday, Saturday, Sunday. I think we're going to have a tournament on Friday and a girls tournament on Friday. Women's tournament, Bruce. Let's say it again. Okay, hold on. Edit.
    82:38
    A women's tournament also on Friday. See, I fixed it. I'm good. I wasn't supposed to say that. I'm not going to edit any of that.
    82:48
    Wow. You're going to be a dick. Bruce is old. He calls them girls. I am. What happens if you call it a boys' tournament? I'll call it a boys' tournament. Actually, that's not true because it's an open tournament. There is no such thing as a men's tournament anymore. Yeah, I know. You sound pissed. Well, what about a men's only tournament? Yeah. I don't give a shit. I don't play in tournaments anymore. That's right. You're retired. I'm running them.
    83:14
    So how many people do you think you're going to get for something like that? We're going to max it out to 64. Do you really think you're going to get anywhere near that amount? I hope so. If we plan ahead, and it's going to be seven tournaments that night at the 24 hours. Two and a half hour tournaments. It's going to be one set price. And I think if you play all seven tournaments, you'll get part of your money back. So if you complete all seven, you have to complete them. Play and complete. you'll get a little money, a little money of your entry fee back. Like a congratulations. You've survived. Do you get a metal? Nope. No metal yet, but you get money back. Money's better than metals. I don't know. I like the metals. No, maybe we'll do a metal then. Zach might. I always, I always liked the metal. I like if you do all seven, you have to play and finish all seven. So the date I'm thinking about for us is either late August or the, uh, the fall. What is it called? The fall. What is, It's not the summer equinox. The fall brawl. No, the fall. What's the fall equinox? Is it called the equinox? What is it called? Is it the summer equinox? I don't know.
    84:21
    Equinox? Yes. The fall equinox would be the 24th because it's Thursday the 22nd. Okay, so what's the date? We're talking the 24th of September or late in August. That's the two dates we're looking at. Okay. And there's nothing around those things. That's what we're trying to plan so far ahead. Ah. And we have great AC. We have three AC units in our place. It gets cold. We got it down to 66 degrees yesterday at the co-op. So what you're saying is I will be completely not comfortable. And Zach will be in shorts. And everyone else will be. And Zach will be in shorts. Okay. But in the back area, I turn the heat up to 70. That's great. So you'll at least be warm if you walk back there. So if I hide in the back where no one is, I'll be comfortable. Okay, I got it. Would you rather be in your car comfortable or out in there comfortable? Whatever. See? At least look out for my brother.
    85:13
    Let's see. How about... I was just thinking of things like Stomp. Stomp we have to do again. We have to do it in the fall also. Yeah. And it's going to be at your place. If it's Stomp. I have to figure that out. If it's Stomp. East. Stomp original. Stomp East. Or do you want to have it back at our PC? I'd love to have it back there.
    85:35
    I mean, it's... That all depends on you. It all depends on me. It's all about me. And I'd have to stay out there. I get the room. Yes. I just don't want, well, the room. You get the couch. Remember, Scott gets the room. I don't know about that. Scott's never been up to the RPC, so he loses out if he doesn't come up there. Wow. Sorry, Sarah, but, you know, Scott's got to come up to Rochester once in a while and check out Zach's homebrew.
    86:04
    Ooh. Wait a minute. Is that at? No, no, no. No, I'm trying to convince him. He's not very receptive to that. Probably because it breaks every other game.
    86:14
    Wow. I mean, and he seems to be the only one who knows how to reset it properly. I know that. I agree. He would have to make a manual. So you would have to do what Spooky doesn't do and make a manual that gives the full steps on how to reset procedure and all that. I agree. Yeah. You'd probably have to have a laptop right next to it, too, connected to it so you can get in and do the reset. Or inside. Just have it sitting inside. There you go. I like that idea. Yeah. Sold. I'm full of good ideas. Sold.
    86:46
    Yep, yep. Stop. I have tentatively, it looks like there's actually going to be a Bells event here. When's that? At level zero. I have no idea. Who's doing it? Lauren. She is our local Bells representative. She's the one who had so much trouble trying to get Bells registered here because no one would get back to her for months. Yeah, I know. Same problem. I know we had it for us. But now Steph is our local rep. So, yeah, that's – I've been advertising, you know, putting that out there for at least two or three years now. Someone finally took me up on my offer. Mm-hmm. I think that's all I got. My checklist is complete, which we're at almost two hours for supposedly not having much to talk about. Yeah, I know. Go figure. That's how awesome we are. Awesome. We are the Slam Tilt Podcast. You can reach us now for the third time at slamtiltpodcast at gmail.com. Check out our website, www.slamtiltpodcast.com. If you look in the upper right-hand corner, it's got all our links.
    87:50
    Maybe I'll be streaming every once in a blue moon. I haven't been streaming that much lately. No, it's too nice. It's boring to stream alone. You need visitors coming out. Maybe I'll come out alone. Need visitors. I mean, and Stu, he's not stopping by anymore. He's pissing me off. Yeah, well. He's having problems with his voice and he can't really sing, which is weird. I'm having the same issues. It's just weird how that works. I don't know how that works. It might be the air. It's something in the air. Yeah, yeah. Hi, Steve Bowden. Hi, Zach. Hi, bonus. Hi, Zach. Hi, everyone in our cluster, Vuck. Our cluster, Vuck, is saying hi. And don't forget, when's the New York Pinball Championship coming up? New York City. New York City Pinball Championships. They announced those. They're going to be in August, but they have no more information yet. I know. I just didn't want to know. I want to know the dates. It is.
    88:38
    19th through the 21st. August 19th through the 21st. I think the weekend before that is the Saratoga show. It is. So I will be. Busy, busy, busy. I pretty much have to bring a game to that because then I'm just a dork. I'm an asshole if I don't bring a game to that. It's our show. And it's going to be back at the YMCA. YMCA Let me look that up. Saratoga. Let's make sure I'm not talking out my ass there. I believe it's the weekend before. Yes, it's the weekend before. It's actually Friday and Saturday. August 12th and 13th at the Saratoga Regional YMCA.
    89:18
    And everyone's going to complain because they're not going to be able to get hotels because it's during track season. And they complain every year. Well, I'll just stay at Ron's house. I'll be good. Yes. okay I think that's it thanks everybody until next time see y'all later say goodbye Bruce goodbye Beavis and Butthead
    89:56
    It's guaranteed to keep you alive Oh my