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Episode 218 – For Missy

Slam Tilt Podcast·podcast_episode·1h 36m·analyzed·Nov 14, 2023
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TL;DR

Stern price cuts, Multimorphic delays, and Dutch Pinball Back to the Future rumors dominate discussion.

Summary

Ron and Bruce discuss recent pinball news including Pinball Brothers' Alien Ripley Edition pricing, Dutch Pinball's Big Lebowski delays and rumored Back to the Future license acquisition, Multimorphic's game development pause due to 3D printing quality issues, Stern's price discounts on unsold games (Led Zeppelin, Turtles, Rush), and the Venom launch party at Rochester Pinball Collective. They also cover tournament experiences including 24 Hours of Pain and Rock Fantasy Fall Open.

Key Claims

  • Pinball Brothers' Alien Ripley Edition is priced at $8,000, cheaper than most recent releases

    high confidence · Ron and Bruce discuss pricing directly, noting it's cheaper than previous models

  • Multimorphic has paused development of all future games to review P3 parts and materials due to customer issues

    high confidence · Email announcement from Multimorphic founder Jerry Stellenberg reported via Nap Arcade

  • Dutch Pinball may have acquired the Back to the Future license

    low confidence · Ron and Bruce discuss rumors; Bruce expresses skepticism given Dutch's track record with Big Lebowski

  • Stern told distributors to sell discounted games (Led Zeppelin, Turtles, Rush) at whatever price they want

    high confidence · Direct discussion of distributor pricing strategy

  • Guns N' Roses was Stern's highest-selling game historically

    medium confidence · Referenced from Jack Winery interview on Loser Kid Pinball podcast

  • Venom game has a problematic light show/strobe effect that players find excessive

    medium confidence · Bruce's subjective gameplay feedback from Venom launch party

  • Cactus Canyon upgrade kit has been delayed approximately 1.5 years

    medium confidence · Ron mentions players waiting 'a year and a half' for the kit

  • Dutch Pinball's Big Lebowski has experienced approximately 8 years of delays with 70+ unfulfilled pre-orders

    high confidence · Direct comparison to Big Lebowski delays during Back to the Future speculation

Notable Quotes

  • “Their marketing department, who's supposed to be selling 90% of the pinball machines in the world... And they don't use their own fucking thing for at least a couple days.”

    Ron Hallett @ ~67:00 minutes — Critique of Stern's marketing strategy and platform usage

  • “You have to squeal like a pig. Yeah, whoever actually opens a ticket or contacts them.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ ~15:00 minutes — Commentary on how manufacturers only address issues when formally complained about

  • “Guns and Roses was just a home run for them. It really was.”

    Ron Hallett @ ~68:00 minutes — Historical context on Stern's most successful game

  • “Do we replace the old shit? Yeah, yeah. Is the owner going to be like, hey, how about mine? Nope, of course not.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ ~13:00 minutes — Cynical observation about retroactive manufacturing fixes and owner communication

  • “The light show is terrible. The fucking light show is fucking terrible.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ ~52:00 minutes — Specific design criticism of Venom's strobe/light effects

Entities

Ron HallettpersonBruce NightingalepersonZachpersonDutch PinballcompanyPinball BrotherscompanyStern PinballcompanyMultimorphiccompanyBarrels of Fun

Signals

  • ?

    business_signal: Distributor inventory pressure: unsold Stern games forcing price reductions and limiting new game purchases

    high · Discussion of distributors unable to sell at MSRP stating 'I can't buy any of your new games if I can't get rid of these old games'

  • ?

    community_signal: Venom launch party at Rochester Pinball Collective with tournament; problematic format criticized (match play with game selection seeding that provided no seed advantage)

    high · Ron/Bruce critique tournament format as 'terrible'; Nick of Buffalo Pinball won; Steph organized/proposed format

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Venom game receiving criticism for excessive strobe/light show effects during gameplay

    medium · Bruce states 'The light show is fucking terrible' and references similar effects in Cactus Canyon

  • ?

    event_signal: 24 Hours of Pain tournament drew approximately 54 players; mentioned alongside other regional pinball events

    medium · Bruce attended tournament, finished 17th; tournament featured Pinnberg-style 3-games-per-round format

  • $

    market_signal: Home pinball model pricing has not resonated in market; Stern recognizing limited appeal at premium price points

    medium · Ron/Bruce discussion of home models not moving; comparison to arcade versions' profitability

  • $

Transcript

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0:00
Listen, I think that roof panel comes off. Uh-huh. And we can get out that way. I'll get on top of you. Heel what?
0:08
And we can build a three-way boost. Okay. Hey. Three-way. Hey! Hey, shut up! Coming to you from beautiful upstate New York, this is the Slam Tilt Podcast, a show about all things pinball. I'm your host, Ron Hallett, here with the other host, Bruce Nightingale. Howdy ho. And this is episode 218. Clousers.
0:46
It's been a while. It has been a while. A lot of shit came on this past month. A lot of shit. Three weeks. Three weeks, right? It's been a while. Yes. Yeah, Bruce was not with me. We apologize if you went to Sanctum to see me and Bruce, and Bruce was not there. I don't think anyone did. I had one person there said they liked the podcast, but they were actually referring to the other one. Wow. Which would be Silver Ball Chronicles. The inferior one. Which can be listened to on the Pinball Network. New episode coming soon.
1:22
The inferior one. I agree. Okay. Agree with what? I never agreed with you. You did. You agreed with yourself. No, no, no. Okay. I'm doing the Zach. Well, Zach's never wrong, as we know. So there you go. Although whenever I play Iron Maiden and love it, I mean, I realize how wrong he is because he hates Iron Maiden. He just hates fun. I think that's what it is.
1:47
I can agree with that. Yeah. About Iron Maiden or that he hates fun? Both. Okay. All right, so you asked for questions. I did ask for questions. And our listeners gave us questions. So we're going to save that for the end of the show. Oh, my. Yeah, we're going to do things in a different order. We're going to change things up here. Isn't that exciting? Oh, I get to have a ball bag in my face early? Not too early, though. Oh, dang. All right, let's see. What have I got here?
company
Jerry Stellenbergperson
Jack Wineryperson
Nickperson
Andy Cushmanperson
Stephperson
Tom Graffperson
Rochester Pinball Collectiveorganization
Venomgame
Alien Ripley Editiongame
Cactus Canyongame
Big Lebowskigame
Rock Fantasy Fall Openevent

market_signal: Stern not prominently featuring Elton John release on own marketing channels despite recent announcement; criticism of marketing department effectiveness

medium · Ron criticizes Stern for not using 'their own fucking thing for at least a couple days' after reveal

  • $

    market_signal: Stern offering significant discounts on unsold inventory (Led Zeppelin, Turtles, Rush) through distributors; possible market saturation or poor sales performance

    high · Ron/Bruce discussion of distributor price reductions and statement that distributors cannot move games at MSRP

  • ?

    announcement: Elton John pinball game announced and shown at IAAPA trade show; video presentation format emphasized professional presentation over Twitch streaming

    high · Ron/Bruce praise of game-focused video presentation with close-ups of animations; comparison to Stern's streaming approach

  • ?

    product_strategy: Cactus Canyon upgrade kit experiencing extended delays (approximately 1.5 years) with continued market anticipation

    medium · Ron mentions 'people have been waiting for Cactus Canyon for like a year and a half'

  • ?

    product_concern: Multimorphic pausing all game development to address 3D printing part failures (ball lifters cracking within days of replacement)

    high · Jerry Stellenberg email announcement about 'in-house review of P3 parts and materials to eliminate issues'; community reports of ball lifter failures

  • ?

    rumor_hype: Dutch Pinball rumored to have acquired Back to the Future license; community skepticism due to Big Lebowski delays

    low · Ron and Bruce discuss rumors; Bruce responds with jokes about money being 'back in their pockets'; no official confirmation

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Negative sentiment toward Stern's pricing strategy and manufacturing communication practices; frustration with reactive-only customer service model

    high · Multiple references to 'squealing like a pig' to get manufacturer attention; criticism of Stern's handling of Venom plastic ramp issues

    • 2:18
    Well, I didn't realize this, like it was this cheap. But did you know the Alien Ripley edition? Did you know that that's only 8K? Yes, it's cheaper than almost anything else out there lately. Yeah, it's cheaper than their previous model. Are they the only – is Pinball Brothers the only people who drop prices? Well, not always, but – Plus, I didn't realize. I guess they have facilities here, so it's like you don't have ridiculous shipping charges or import fees or anything. I don't know, but they have some kind of facilities here. Maybe storage facilities, but I guarantee they're all. Yeah, but if you buy one of them, you don't have to pay all these extra fees. Yeah, because they're probably getting boated over, which is a lot cheaper. So would you get an Alien? God, no.
    3:10
    Nope. Oh, well. Nope, it sucks. No, it doesn't. Alien is awesome. No. Zach has one, so it's got to be good. That's not a good reason at all. some of Zach's tastes are really bad like yours you know you both like Star Wars and you both like Aliens so what does that tell you folks win-win for the Brewers ding okay let's see what else we got Elvira blood red edition they already built them done they're done built done so did you get yours oh I got three oh you got three of them I got I got one I got one for the house one for the co-op and one new in box still you know you know just to sell later yes i gotcha i gotcha i'm gonna sell for 50k 50k it does look good it looks beautiful but you know way too rich for my blood way too rich all right um pulp fiction they they made one of them yay and everyone got excited It's like they're not actually making them yet. That was the joke. Whether it was the first production or the test production or whatever.
    4:22
    When do you think they'll come out? Oh, not until probably March. March of next year. So you think – Yeah, they're going to do it just before – Texas. Texas, so they don't hear the complaints. Ah, so one year before where they debuted it, it'll finally be – Yes. Ah. Yeah, and maybe they'll get all the Cactus Cadence out. What's with the – damn what's going on with that i don't know it's just i played one last night it was fun you know i played original one too and that's fun too so for me you know it's like oh that's kind of cool and you know it's fun to play but is it worth all the hype and everything and it'll wait people have been waiting for the cactus canyon someone for like a year and a half it feels like i'm doing big lebowski all over again uh well no you need to get up to about eight years or so before you're at that level. We need 70 people to buy our machine before the person who paid first gets theirs.
    5:18
    Sorry, people. So what do you think of the rumors that Dutch has back to the future? Oh, God. I hope not. I say your money will be back, back in their pockets.
    5:32
    I mean, how is that even possible? Unless they just got no assets at all. Maybe. It's just literally the title. You have the time machine car. No, the time machine bus. Yeah. Or something. I don't know. The bicycle. You get the bicycle. You can use the time machine to go back in time and not get a Big Lebowski so you won't be out of your money. There you go. Yes. You can do 8.8 miles per hour on your bicycle.
    5:59
    Back to the future. All right. What else have we got for – It's pretty scary if they did get that licensing. First, as a license or to the licensee would be bad because, you know, how many years have they had to pay for this Big Lebowski license? Eight? That's a good question, yeah. Because they've had to renew it over and over and over again, yeah, to get all these games out. And the licensors are probably going, fuck yeah, take more money, fuck yeah.
    6:31
    The dude approves, I guess. The dude approves of more money. And they're probably going, shit, we still got 26 people. We still got on our list. We got to sell more.
    6:42
    Yes, you can sell. Hey, they were packing them up today. Oh, yeah. They had a picture. Wait a minute. You actually follow some of the posts and stuff? Yeah, Once in a Blue Moon. So you might have a clue what I'm talking about sometimes. What? Yeah, exactly.
    6:55
    Zach. Zach's not here yet. Zach. Any new listeners are like, who the fuck is Zach? Zach is the third host. he's the unofficial third host yes he is the co-host if you will bruce is the other host he's the co-host yes now you finally got that right after only like 195 episodes let's see what else we got for news uh i don't know here multi-morphic pauses no new game development so were you aware so many weirdos oh that's right we limited that run so we're screwed were you aware of the uh Pinside post? No. I don't watch Pinside. Well, you wouldn't watch it. You would view it. I watch it on... It's like a drama. Yes, it is. It's like a drama TV series. Well, there was someone who posted about all the issues they had with the game and also suggestions on improvements. They actually included their service tickets and stuff that they opened with Multimorphic and things like that. It was interesting. It was good reading in that it didn't, like, these are some positive things, these are some not positive things, and it didn't get downvoted immediately. So that was interesting. But it was basically things like the amount of 3D printing they do in their games. These manufacturers that are now depending on 3D printing. Use of things like smaller servos that go bad and things like that. It was just a big. And then it went into like all these different directions, of course, because that's where it happened. That's what yeah, that's what Pinside does. But they made an announcement. And this is from Nap Arcade. Hi, Nap Arcade. It says Multimorphics founder Jerry Stellenberg sent out an email update on the company.
    8:53
    Where's the interesting thing? I want to find it. as pause development of all future games so that its engineering team can conduct an in-house review of P3 parts and materials to eliminate the issues that some customers have been experiencing with games. So now you now have more than one customer. You just admitted to that. Now it's some. like you you know the thing is if you just ignored the one customer that was blowing you know hot air out of their buttocks you know you just go okay whatever you know but now you've admitted that there's some issues that you have to go over through the 3d printing get rid of holy shit these fucking manufacturers well i guess there was a whole thing in the thread about there's different levels of 3d printing and as we We saw at Halloween there was a certain level three. Yeah, it was just shit. Just shit. Here's another one of shit.
    9:57
    Here's your ball raiser of shit. Yeah, the ball. What was that? The ball lifters in the in lanes? The ball lifter, yeah. Yeah, that sucker cracked like immediately. And then we got a new one from them, and three days later, it cracked again. Wow. It's like, what the fuck, people? Yeah. But I thought that was interesting that that came out, and it's not a coincidence. There's no way that's a coincidence. No, it's not a coincidence. But now they're actually delaying their games, which they haven't had many games come out. Yeah, they were supposed to come out with another game soon, but I guess that's not happening.
    10:33
    So, you know, yeah, my thought is get rid of 3D printing. Molded plastics are way better, you know, and that kind of stuff. It might cost you more in the initial bit, but if you have a long run and you sold out like you did with Weird Al and that kind of stuff, it will be better in the long run because the 3D plastic shit won't break. Well, here's the question. Here's the question. So if they – But everyone has some shit. We found some of these issues, and we've replaced the final – like all these parts on our games we're building have been replaced with these new versions. What's going to happen? Do we replace the old shit? Yeah, yeah. Is the owner going to be like, hey, how about mine? Nope, of course not. They'll probably do it quietly to a couple people, but I guarantee – They could use the stern method. You just wait. You've got to squeal. I've got to squeal like a pig. Yeah, whoever actually opens a ticket or contacts them. Yes, yes. Otherwise, yeah. No, they're not going out and saying, here, sir, I've sent you 23 parts for you to put on your machine so you can fix it at your convenience. yeah no it's not that's not happening i just thought it was interesting so yeah but you know there's some people having you know issues with uh the new uh venom game also with the pros the plastic ramps breaking in the back right corner oh so you know and then stern came back with some are thinner than others huh wait that's what quality controls for that's what quality controls for and going is this made right no but hey we gotta get the speech sheet out put it on the line no one will ever notice it's just late okay where did they actually say that bruce are you just making that up no no not making that up one of our local distributors had that problem and he stated what they said okay that they had a problem with them oh so they okay so they made it they had an issue with their race yes well and then when he asked is there a better ramp a newer ramp, they're like, no. And he's like, great. Will there be a better ramp or no? Probably not until they get more and more complaints. And then guess what they're going to do? You have to squeal before you get the party. You have to do a Ned Beatty. You have to squeal. Gotta squeal! Anyone got that? I did. That's scary. I've actually never seen that movie, believe it or not. Really? I just know all the references from it, but I've never actually seen it. um well since we're on stern stern had a sale also they lowered their prices well they they told the uh they told the distributors sell it for what you want specifically led zeppelin pro and premium turtles premium only that one rush because we're not making anymore and the home models yeah so i guess there's a little gluttony of uh well the problem is These guys are probably paying Stern, you know, and they're probably going, I can't get rid of these games at your MSRP. What are we going to do about this? And then they probably said, yeah, I can't buy any of your new games if I can't get rid of these old games. Yep.
    13:44
    Maybe that's a red flag to old Stern saying, hey, stop raising prices because, you know, Tiny Dancer ain't going to cut it for 12K. You know, most people are not buying Tiny Dancer. I'm aware of that game Tiny Dancer yes it's called Elton John I know with Benny hold me close to tiny dancer Betty can't the headlight Betty in the chair and you know people don't want to spend that much money and maybe they have to start realizing like guess what every game's not going to move.
    14:29
    And they had a couple turds right there with the Led Zeppelin, the Turtles. I don't understand Rush. Rush is the only oddball one out of that one. Why? They're not making them anymore. I know they're not making them anymore, but why would you discount something that you're not going to make anymore? I know they didn't make Turtles anymore, and Led Zeppelin was a one-and-done also. Well, they're not making them anymore because they didn't sell, and distributors have them, and they want to get rid of them. Yeah, that's true too. So people are now going to get them way less than what I pay. Yes. So good for them. And the home models, I think they've realized that ship is not going to sail for them at that price point. No, the home models, yeah. The games are fun. They're not that much fun.
    15:09
    You can't even put them on location. So you're saying they're not barrels of fun. Barrels of fun they are not.
    15:18
    Yikes. Way to fucking segue into that fucking turd. What? I mean, a game. What? You don't like that? I don't like Labyrinth. I never liked Labyrinth. Wait a minute. You've never played the game, Bruce? I know. No, I don't like the movie. Oh, okay. So that's a theme that does nothing. I'd rather have, literally, if it went by theme, Elton John in a second. Okay. So not a David Bowie guy. No. I didn't like the Muppets back then either. It was kind of creepy. What? How do you not like Muppets? It's almost like the Dark Crystal, but a little weirder. Oh, I love the Dark Crystal. I hate the Dark Crystal. What the hell's the matter with you? Nothing. I'm perfectly normal. You're the one that's fucked up. Okay.
    16:00
    Can you all write in and tell Bruce he's wrong about Dark Crystal? No, I'm not going to be. You can write in to slamtiltpodcast at gmail.com. That's slamtiltpodcast at gmail.com. And tell Ron that he is the wrong one, and Bruce is, as always, right. Dark Crystal is awesome. No, it wasn't.
    16:18
    No. You see how many times they wanted to make a Dark Crystal pinball. Oh, yeah, you see that? Barrel of Fun might be the next title. No, no, it's going to be Muppets Take Manhattan instead. I would love that. That I would love. Oh, okay. Because you have Fozzie Bear. Hey!
    16:35
    I finally found out one thing I like about this podcast. What? It ends! All right. Well, there was – just happened last past weekend. there were a bunch of labyrinths at the Houston Arcade Expo. Yes, there was.
    16:57
    And there was probably a tournament that I didn't look up. I'm sorry. I failed. Yeah. A lot of people played. They all stunk.
    17:08
    And somebody got mad at me. Someone was the victor. Oh, yeah. Okay, yeah. Someone got pissed off. Somebody won, and fun was had by all, I guess. Yes, and somebody stunk. Done. um nailed that tournament talk have you seen any of the Labyrinth gameplay at Albers I have not no still literally come on you need to do your research no because it doesn't interest me it doesn't matter I feel like we have to be informed if we have a podcast we just can't be ignorant morons speak for yourself okay so Bruce is perfectly fine being an ignorant moron No, I just have no interest in the game. I have no interest in many games. No, no, that's not true. I would be interested in Elton John if it was a normally priced game. Ah, wait a minute. Elton John. Okay, so we've moved. Okay, bye-bye, Labyrinth. We've moved to Elton John. No, if it wasn't so much, I would be interested in it. But since it's 12K and 15K, no fucking way. Labyrinth, no interest at all in it. I just don't like the theme.
    18:17
    So Elton John. I love Star Wars theme, just hate the fucking game. Elton John. Yes. Forgot to mention this last time. They did two games in one year. Yay! One calendar year. Well, technically not yet because they haven't actually built them. Yeah. I thought they were going to build 100. That was the difference this time. They didn't have them in boxes ready like they did the past couple. I think they wanted to get it in at Expo. Yeah. But supposedly they're coming soon. They're at IAPA right now. Yes, they are. The trade industry show in Orlando, Florida that's going on this week. So, yeah, they showed a video. They had all their games there.
    18:56
    That one, John, looks really good. It looks great. Did you see the gameplay video? I saw bits of it, not all of it. I can't. So you saw something. Yes. Okay. I want to say I like the direction they're going with that. Stern should do that too. Yes. I know people love the Twitch streams, but anything can happen during a Twitch stream. I know. The game could fail completely and it will look really bad. So they had the game front and center, direct in, and all the displays. You didn't even see – I think it was Joe Katz and – is it Bill Grupp? I think so, yeah. You didn't even see them. You just heard them. It was just the game is front and center. They did close-ups of the animations and all that. Like that's the way to go. I agree. That's the way to go. It just puts the game in a – It looks and makes it feel more professional. Yes. And makes you more interested in the game instead of the designers going, hey, what do you think? Hey, what do you think? Hey, I got the full stock. Hey, what's going on? Oh, it's early code. Oh, yeah. It made me interested. Yeah. Are you buying one?
    20:07
    Oh, we might have a hook. No, I got – Might have a hook. I'd have to get rid of a modern game because you can't replace an old game with a modern game. Well, Star Wars can go right away. You can sell that so easily. Star Wars is incredible. I can't get rid of it. One of the best games ever? I can't do that. Are you crazy? Yeah, I would never get rid of Deadpool.
    20:28
    Jurassic Park I wouldn't get rid of, no. Russia I wouldn't get rid of, no. The video was excellent. Yeah, I agree. Check that out. Yeah, CERN, you should be doing that. Yes. On your channel, not other people's channels. Yeah, I know. That's another fucking – that's been a pet peeve of mine for years.
    20:48
    Their marketing department, who's supposed to be selling 90% of the pinball machines in the world. Oh, is it down to 85%? Or is it still 90%? 85%, 90%. Okay. But still. And they don't use their own fucking thing for at least a couple days. Did you listen to any of the Jack Winery interview on Loser Kid? No, I have not. I'm backlogged on podcasts. I will say. I mean, it's a lot of the usual sales stuff that he does. And I'm not into sales people, and he is a salesman first. That's what he did forever and still does. But there will be little tidbits in there. Like he said that pretty much pirates probably ain't going to happen. No. They're not going back and making old games. And he basically said what their highest seller was ever.
    21:38
    Guns and Roses. Yep, Guns and Roses. Yep. I always thought it was between that and Wizard of Oz with all the different runs in it. All the runs, but I think Guns N' Roses was just a home run for them. It really was.
    21:48
    I played more Toy Story. Isn't it great? I love Toy Story. No. No? Just turn the sound down. Turn the sound down, and it's fun. Luckily, I was in a place that the sound was down on. Oh, okay. So you should have enjoyed it. But still, it's just... One person in our group out of four for League got 10 million points or 9 million something. Wow. And the rest of us barely broke a million. Man, you guys suck. Yeah. But you won league, though. I did win league. Your retirement has been incredible. I know. I should have retired years ago. You should have retired years ago. I agree. Tom Graff wanted to retire. Did you see that? Oh, from Fox City's football? Yep. I'm retiring.
    22:31
    Everyone's like, you can't retire. I told him he's got to send an essay in. Tom is my favorite member of Fox City's because he's the only one who F-bombs constantly. So just, you know, we love that. Yes, we do. Fuck yeah. I hope my dentist F-bombs me like crazy. What the fuck are you doing? Brush better, asshole. Fuck it. You got a fucking floss ass, bud. Floss. Fucking floss. Use fucking floss. It's the best kind of floss. Yes, it is. Let's see. What else do I got here?
    22:59
    I think that's it for the news. Let's talk about you guys had a Venom launch party. Yes. Well, you forgot one. Well, we can go into it later. What? The Sanctum. I got that on here. I'm taking these in order, Bruce. Wow. Holy shit. Wow, because the Venom was – see, I had – this was my weekends. I had – what did I have? The New York City Pinball Championships. Then the next weekend was Expo. Then the next weekend was the Venom launch party. Then the next weekend was the Sanctum.
    23:28
    So this past weekend, I was going to go to the – I was thinking of going to the Gorgar Armageddon that they had in Orange County where they had like six or seven Gorgars, which they ended up, yeah, like 54 people there. But I was like, you know, I kind of need a break. Yeah, I kind of agree too, yes. You're going to get burned out. And especially next weekend. Next weekend is, was it the fall?
    23:52
    Rock Fantasy's fall tournament. It is? Yeah. Oh. Is it? It is Saturday, I think. Oh, I did not know that. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to have to look that up. fall tournament but it actually in the fall what up with that I know should be a summer tournament what the hell uh oh yeah we got the venom launch party bruce yes and what that the beautiful rochester pinball collective and where is that uh 349 west commercial street and beautiful east rochester new york suite number 2965 another open two times a week for your fun and excitement we had a flawless stream well except the part where it just stopped working even though obs was acting like it was fine and we had to restart it what the hell i don't get that but the cameras were fine um yeah and we did what was the format again oh it's weird that was the steph thing and hopefully we never do it again oh poor steph it was terrible and she didn't even play in it that's the worst part about it? She had friends over.
    25:01
    I thought it was Zach's format. No. Steph wanted this one. What was the format? It was match play from the beginning. It was match play. And then it was this thing where, what was it, top 8? 12? Yeah, top 8. Yes. Played each other. It was almost like a ladder. But it wasn't a ladder. Everyone had to play the game. And then the lowest score got knocked out. Yeah, so you have 8 players. And each player picks a game.
    25:31
    And you play them in the order of like the number one seed gets their game picked first, et cetera, et cetera. But your seed meant nothing. Yes, your seed meant nothing. The number one seed lost in the first game. Yep, it was terrible. I was not happy with that thing.
    25:46
    But, yeah, that seemed – I'm like, I like ladders, but that seemed to be like – No, I would rather have had a ladder. You had – Because at least you would get top four if you were the top seed. Yeah, you got no advantage. You earned something. You got booted. Yeah, it was bad. And I lost in the second round.
    26:01
    I know. It was not good. I was not happy with it. So I believe Nick of Buffalo Pinball, he won the thing. Yes, he did.
    26:09
    And who was second? I don't remember. Zach was second? Well, no, it wasn't. It was, sorry, it was, what's his name? Ah, God, Andy Cushman. Yes. Poor Andy. He don't know his name. He's there all the time. I left by then. I had to work early next day. Yeah, but you qualified, of course. I did. Again, retirement is the way to go. Retirement is awesome. And I did get money from the side pot. So did I. Side pot.
    26:40
    Yeah, so what did you think of Venom? I like it. It's not great. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on. That's a Dwight game. I know it is. You just said you liked it. That's the only thing I don't like about it. The fucking light show is terrible. the shots are good yeah I don't mind light show is terrible fucking light show is fucking sorry every time it starts doing one of the flashing things I just think of you oh my god I don't even think of Dwight I think of you even Cactus Canyon does it yes the new Cactus Canyon does it the remake does some weird lighting stuff yeah like I'm sitting there and it's got the gun fight and the two flashes from the gun fight are going off and I'm like holy fuck who's the idiot that fucking did this yes this saturday at 12 30 is the rock fantasy fall open ah thank you so that will be this saturday the world famous rock fantasy 15 entry fee top eight cash so if jason zahler shows up we should just give him our money and just leave go get some hot dogs yeah go to holy dog get some hot dog yes exactly i i kind of like it i don't i don't dislike it i like trying to hit the combos yes and stuff i find that fun i mean every shot you can backhand yeah yeah it's a it's a very fast game play playfield wise it's not breaking any new ground no i do like the uh captive balls on the play field, though. Not the captain balls, but the storage balls. The quick lock? Yes. And if you hit the shot... The ball is constantly moving? Yes. I love that. Yeah.
    28:27
    Yeah, I like balls moving. I know you do. That was one of my favorite parts about roller games, the fact that it would just kick the ball out every once in a while just for fun. Just like, oh, look at that.
    28:39
    Rock, rock, rock. Rock and roller games. Rock, rock, rock. Rock and roller games. 24 hours of pain. You did have.
    28:51
    Yes. I played at the Bruce. Bruce texted me like Friday before. Yep. Like, I'm not feeling good. I'm not going to make it. I wasn't feeling good. So the original plan was. For me to go out and go get ice cream. Yep. And then. And then drive out that next morning and then. Yeah, the next morning. Take Ron with me. So what I did is I decided. And the other thing is that weekend, major, major stuff going on at work that even though I was at this, I was still going to be involved in. It was going to be interesting. Awesome. So I had my laptop with me and all my work shit.
    29:31
    And I decided once you texted me, it's like, okay, I'm just going to get a hotel room. And I went there Friday night so I could sleep over there, get a good night's sleep.
    29:42
    Oh, then I fucked up. And I knew it was 10. It started at 10 a.m. But for some reason, I had nine in my head. So I showed up like at eight in the parking lot, which is empty. And I'm like, oh, fuck, you asshole. So I got an extra hour of sleep. Yeah, I just sat there and listened to podcasts for an hour.
    30:00
    Yeah, then I got my spot, camped out, put all my crap there. And we started. You went 24 hours. Went 24 hours. It started slow. Then I was in near the top groups pretty much the whole tournament. Where did you finish, sir? I think 17th. Nice. Congratulations. That's taking a three in the last round. That hurt. I took zero in the first two games. It was 3-2-1-0 scoring like Pinnberg. Instead of playing four games like Pinnberg, you play three per round. So the last round I took a zero, a zero, and then I won Old Chicago of all things. Yay. Yeah, I like Old Chicago. I don't mind. It's okay. But I'm kind of glad I didn't go to the Sanctum, though. I had other issues. Mm-hmm. So, yeah, it sucked. Mm-hmm. My weekend was worse than Ron's. Yes, it was. Yeah.
    31:00
    So during the tournament, it was about 2 o'clock. So I play in this thing. At 2 o'clock, I have to get on the work call. So I'm on the work call. So I'm wearing headphones while playing. I'm surprised no one yelled at me like, dude, LARP. So the first round we did that where I had the headphones on, I went 9-0 and got a perfect round. Nice. So I was on the call until like 8 when the call ended, and then more work was going on through the night.
    31:31
    Then we get to the next morning. We finish up, get in the car to leave. and I get on another call, a 9 a.m. call. Drive home, like an hour and 45 minutes, and the call ends right as I get home. Perfect.
    31:47
    I go in the house. I go to bed. There was a part of the story I'm thinking whether I should even say anything.
    31:54
    Well, this is the Slamtail Podcast, and it's disgusting, so sure. So before I left, I had my one bottle of Arnold Palmer, my iced tea that I like. This is my only sugar of the whole thing.
    32:09
    So I drank this before leaving. So you know what happened? What do you think happened? Yeah, I got a pee. Like, really bad. Really bad. And I'm there like, I'll just wait for the mass pike. So I get on the mass pike, and it's like, where's the freaking rest stop? Where's the fucking rest stop? About 15, 20 minutes away.
    32:29
    And then it's like an emergency turn off. Like, fuck it. Boom. Turn off. Go over the guardrail. I run down into the woods, and yeah, man, I had to go forever. That was... It's just a pee that never ends. Yes. It goes on and on, my friends. I went back into the car, and then I got home. There you go. And that was during the meeting. I had to make sure I was on mute and take my breath.
    32:54
    Where did Ron go? So, yeah, I get home. I slept for like three hours, got up, went down to Guptill's Ice Cream, because it's the last day they were open for the year. I walk up there. The guy's writing my order down before I even say anything.
    33:11
    Yikes. I get me my brownie sundae, and he's there. I might be addicted. Have a good winter, like you two. So I had my brownie sundae, and then I drove to work, to work from like 4 to 7.30. Not that bad. And then drove home, and then went to bed. And then had to be at work 7 a.m. the next morning for all the fallout from all the shit that happened over the weekend, the mass of support calls and everything. And then I had to work. Yeah, I worked that early. Then I worked Monday night, Tuesday, Tuesday night, Wednesday, Wednesday night, and then Thursday finally calmed down. Yeah. And I finally had a normal weekend. So it was a fun little period there. Oh, I can imagine. me uh unfortunately uh i was i was at the co-op and cat calls me she's like missy's not doing well and we've had problems with missy the past couple weeks we thought it was her back that was giving her issues and miss missy is your for those at home missy is your wiener dog my my my dachshund and i'm like oh boy let me get home so i guy i said the guy's like i'm going out of here you You know, Kat's calling me. Kat doesn't usually throw the red flag when it comes to dogs. We've had a ton of them. And I get home, and her whole belly's just swollen and disjointed, like hard, very hard. But her collar's really loose. I'm like, her collar's never been this loose. Kat's like, and she couldn't catch her breath. She's whining and panting and whining and, like, barely can catch her breath. I'm like, let's get her. Let's find out where the nearest emergency hospital is. That's in Buffalo. So for us, it's a 45-minute drive. Luckily, we were on the west side of Rochester. And I got in the car, and there I am on the thruway doing about 75, 80, which is normal for the thruway. But we get to the thing. We walk up to the front door, you know, like, hey, you know, come on in, you know. We didn't even call them beforehand. We just got in the car and drove, and they're like, oh, they looked at her. They felt her belly. They're like, let's get her inside right now. They did an ultrasound, and unfortunately, she has cancer. So we put her down that night because she was in really a lot of pain. It was sad, and that's why we didn't record last week, and that's why I didn't feel up to it. For everyone who mentioned, you know, what I was going through, thank you for reaching out. It's been the hardest one.
    35:39
    It really sucks. We got her back last week. We got her back, I mean, Friday. We cremated her. She's in a nice little box with a picture up on the fireplace mantel. Yep, Texas in a box. Yep, and just sad.
    35:59
    We weren't expecting that. She was only eight and a half, and we've had our dachshunds up to 15 or 16 years. So half the life you get. And she was a rescue dog. We believe in rescue dogs. And I think we gave her a really good life for four years of her life out of her eight and a half. So that was my fun weekend. I would have rather been playing pinball and feeling well, but I'm kind of glad I didn't go out because I don't know what Kathy would have done by herself. I would have been very distracted if she called me at like 2 o'clock, and I couldn't have left because that would have been unfair to Ron. And I think Ron would have found a way home, but it just would have not been good. You know, there's something about that weekend because that was when, in 2017, when I was at the Sanctum. That's when my mother had a heart attack. Yep, I remember that. And ended up in the hospital, which she never left. Yep. And my dad didn't – they didn't want to bother me at the tournament. Yeah, I know. So I didn't even know until I got back. Until you got back, I remember that. But, yep. So the solstice weekend has issues. It does. It really does. So, needless to say, you know, not a fun week. And we were going to record, like, on Thursday. I think we talked about it. And I was like, I really don't feel it, Ron. Ron was like, no problem. Tell me when you're ready. Yeah, Bruce has to feel it, folks. I just didn't want to be like, yeah, hi. And I was upset still. I still am upset. Trust me. I get home, and what I do is literally I get in my recliner. And as soon as I sat down in the recliner, she would come out of her crate. But before that, if I was running around the house or doing stuff, she would sit in her crate. As soon as I sat down in the recliner, she'd pop up. I'd have to pick her up, put her right next to me, and then we'd fall asleep on the recliner together until my wife came home. Mommy, we'd call her. So I miss that. So I've been trying to do projects.
    37:56
    Projects. So that great segue to repairs. Repairs. Okay, I'll do mine. mine's really quick good here's what i did on my iron yeah my iron maiden i replaced the uh the metal fender washers with the lexan ones because i hate not being able to see the light through the slingshot i agree and there you go that's what i did you you slaved overdose i did slay it took me all of a minute wow i don't know how you do it i don't know how i do it either so uh i we got the fireball and uh i we set it up together oh yeah fireball classic say it right not the inferior fireball but the superior yes and uh the guy said to me when he sold to me he's like yeah the only thing i can't get working is the sound oh yeah i'm sitting there going hmm this is a newer valley let me go look through the manual during the launch party too yeah this is during the launch party and i'm like i'm flipping through the manual like it says so in number 18 option or 17 on the thing it says chimes chimes with sounds you know weird you know like arcade-ish sounds and arcades with you know and there's four choices it's not a 6508 is it or 6803 it's the last so it's the last of the old style 6502 okay so uh not a 6803 that's what you're getting screwed up so i'm like boy Maybe this is it. I change the number, reboot it back up, and we get the old sound. The horrible, awesome sound that it does. So it was only a setting.
    39:30
    We love that. So Ron played it. I played it. It probably needs one other thing. I didn't tell Ron until probably just about now. It probably needs a rebuild of the high voltage section. I didn't tell Ron until just about now. In other words, now. Now. Not before, but now. So when did that happen? Now. Now? Later? Can I say that?
    39:52
    The high voltage section, you can see the display's cycling a little bit. It's got some little AC ripple in it. Oh, we can't have that. Damn, ripple. We can't have that. So I've got to probably rebuild one of my other boards and then bring it back. I took all my parts home from the RPC for the past two and a half, three years. My parts are usually there. and when we're working on stuff, they just use my parts and then they'll put a note for, we have a big spreadsheet where, oh, Bruce needs this back, here you go, we'll fill this back in from wherever we need to get it from.
    40:28
    But now I have been doing my playfield swap on Quicksilver with the dual rotisserie. What's a dual rotisserie? I have the playfield on one side and then it's an X and on the other side my other playfield is getting ready to be put up. I'm going to put that up probably in a day or two so I can wire to ground. All the top side stripped down except for the wood rails for the framing around the outside of the play field.
    40:57
    And some switches. That's about it. And then the hole underneath, all the drop targets are gone. Flippers are out. I got to do the slingshots and the kicker for the side hole. And then all the targets out. and then pull it off, and then we can get started on repopulating Quicksilver. Yeah, get to see if any of the holes are in the right spot. Yeah, it looks pretty good, actually. Boy, this game was roached, though. Whoever had this in Australia was roachy roach. Oh, yes, the shit's over. This thing is bad. Every light socket, instead of they took them off the tab and they put them right on the bottom of the light socket and they're all rusted and everything like that, This thing was written hard, put away wet. Oh. Really bad.
    41:44
    I played my father yesterday. He came over. We started our normal winter series where he comes over. We do the ultimate handicap where basically I have to beat him twice on a game for it to count. He only has to beat me once, and he picks every game. That's good. I like that. He beat me four games in a row. Nice. Go, Dad. And we played Quicksilver, and I'm like, man, this thing plays so fast right now. I can't even imagine how it would play. With a new play field in it. I think it would break shit. I'm actually concerned it would play too fast. Yeah. So luckily we have all the metal rails from Keri Stare and everything like that, so I'm going to do that. But the problem is, I just told Ron, is if I get – sorry, I'm going to move my mic a little bit. It's starting to fall down a little bit. If I do this play field swap, I don't have a cabinet ready for it. so I have to then go to plan B and like oh hey figure out something else you know get my cabinet that'd be my next step but I talked to Ashley today hopefully she'll be willing to help me out and we'll have to make a paint booth in the basement I have a place for it well you have the cabinet I got the cabinet it's been built by but it's just not stenciled or anything there's no ground there's no nothing in it by one of our former guests Yes. I forget the name of the cabinets. Yeah, fortunately. I was hoping you were in the room. I actually see the cabinets. I'm looking right at them. But he made Stern cabinets, the regular standard bodies, and they're awesome. They're sitting over there next to Zach's head for his meteor and a couple other things. And then once I get this play field done, hopefully by like January or February, I'm going to start working on Stargazer for JT. He could be the guinea pig, and then after that, I'll get another one for, I'll do the one for my own.
    43:37
    Mm-hmm. Get that done. Is that a new play field or something? What? New play field? Yeah, both new play fields. Oh. I have one, he has one. For who made those?
    43:49
    Great Witch. Oh, okay. And then eventually, I don't, now I found out that there's two play fields coming out for Dragon Fist. One was the Merco, which doesn't look perfect. There's a little text on the Quicksilver one. You can tell it's a little different. Not that bad. The one for Merco for the Dragonfist one is way worse, but supposedly someone else is making a different one. It's Beehive. Beehive, which did the stars. The people who made stars, yeah. They made the alternate stars and the regular stars one. I didn't need one of the stars because I have an NOS, luckily, thanks to Mr. Scott Charles. Of course you do. Hi, Scott.
    44:32
    But there's a couple things that Pinball Life now has. We talked about it a couple weeks ago, or I think two episodes ago, Pinball Life has the rails, the outer rails for the cabinets, for the standard bodies, and they have them now for the wide bodies, the metal rails on the outside. The metal rails on the outside? The side rails? Side rails. Yeah, the side rails. They have them. I wish they would make it. Wait a minute. Why would they be different on a wide body? I don't know, but there is a different part number. If you look in the parts manual for Stern, they are a different part number. It might be the length. The cabinet might be longer. It might be a little longer. Because the plate fields are longer. So, yeah. Actually, they are. Because in my row, they do stick out more. That is – okay. Never mind. So, they do have both sides. And they tell you right in the thing, do not use this on a regular cabinet game. Do not use this on a wide body game. So, at least they're making those. What I really would like to request from any vendor out there, and it probably will be Pinball Life, stern legs, gray legs. That would be really nice. Can't you just use ballys? No, because they're dark gray. Yeah, but they fit. I want the light gray. You want an exact replacement. I want an exact replacement.
    45:48
    The crinkle cut look, color. Crinkle cut. Yeah, like the paint crinkle, like they call it. pretty neat. The coin doors on the stern are really... Chris Crinkle? Chris Crinkle. So, that's my repair so far.
    46:04
    I'm going through right now the Medieval Madness. I'm doing a shop job on the Medieval Madness on the new one. So I've got to pull the ramps out, clean it all up. The rubbers are really good in that game for how old that game is. I never replaced the rubbers on that thing, so knock on wood. Oh, the remake? Yeah. Yeah, my remake's almost 12 years old now. 11 years old. What? Wait a minute. Oh, sorry, 10 years. 2014, I got it. Let's say Chicago Gaming hasn't been doing it that long. Yeah, 2014. But they took the deposit in 2012. Oh, took two years for you to get it. Took two years.
    46:39
    And they ain't no Big Lebowski. But yeah, I have the play field right next to me. I'm right next to the play field me and Ron have the same of, the Quicksilver clear-coated play field. it's right looking right at me right next to me ready to go on to the rotisserie in a day or two the green penis is winking at you in any way they are okay i love peni especially the one by the 15 000 oh the one that looks like a i won't even go into it yes it's a true blue yeah it's true blue true blue johnson so that's my repairs all right so uh yay so let's go to the ball bag i love the ball bag all right are you on time no you're on time there we go because we're recording later yeah oh yeah we were supposed to yeah we were supposed to record sunday but then bruce got called into work so i got called into work so it's been a bad week it's been a bad week but I got to pay for a cruise because I picked another cruise. Another cruise? You can cruise to Canada again? Nope. No.
    47:48
    We're going across the Atlantic. Ooh. So you're going. We're going to Transatlantic. Transatlantic to where?
    47:57
    Rome. From New Jersey to Rome. Cool. You can meet my relatives. 2025. You can meet my relatives and stuff. I want to see a picture of you next to the Leaning Tower of Pisa. We were going to Pisa the day before. Ah. But here's the bad part. Uh-oh. I missing Allentown for the first time in 2025 Oh my God I know My wife like you actually picked this cruise and I did You can do that I am. That's against the – you can't do that. That's the only place that's guaranteed to meet both members of Slamtail, and you just ruined it. Not in 2025. So if you're going to do this this year, 2024, you better get your ass out to the old – I know, to Allentown. Wait, 2025. I just realized. That's two years ahead. Yes. Wow, that much preparation. Preparation is much required when you're buying a cruise. Wow, that's way too far in the future. 14 nights.
    48:54
    Cruise. You leave New Jersey, go all the way across. Is that the good part, leaving New Jersey? Yes, of course it is. Oh, did the Jets win? No, they lost. Wait a minute, they were like kicking ass when I was watching the game. Yep, 9-3, they lost, 16-12. They can't fucking score a touchdown to save their fucking lives. And if they do score a touchdown, it's a penalty, and they fucking kick it back.
    49:19
    Douchebags. Fucking Jets suck. Hey, they're not as bad as the Giants. Oh, nothing's as bad as the Giants. They suck. I know. But your Rangers are doing very well. I'm into hockey now. Oh, okay. It's hockey now. It's hockey. Fuck football.
    49:34
    Fuck football. All right. This one's from Scott. Hi, Scott. Not the S. Scott S. Hi, Scott S. Hi, guys. Thanks for the advice on which early solid-state game to get. When Slamdill tells you to buy a Harlem Globetrotters, you buy a Harlem Globetrotters. You buy a Harlem Globetrotters. I'm really enjoying it. What is your preferred strategy?
    49:58
    Multipliers? Bonus? You can do a couple different ways. First thing I try to do, besides even the multipliers, get the 20K if it's rolling over. You want the super bonus. If it's holding over the super bonus. Yes. If it's holding over the super bonus, spinner all day, whatever one's lit in the middle. Or if they're both lit, depending on the settings. Yeah. Most people don't, but some people do have it that way. But whatever one's lit, hit that spinner, get that thing up to 20. Then start going for the drop targets and building your numbers up. Now, what if it isn't a super bonus? If there isn't a super bonus, multipliers and spinner, the outer spinner, the left spinner. Okay. That's how I would play it. I'll go with that. Sounds good to me.
    50:45
    Wow, we agree. And make sure your spinners spin really good. And since it's your own game, you should be able to do that. Should. He says, I bought the game from another Slam Tilt listener. When I asked him where he played near his house, he said, the local.
    50:58
    Hilarity ensued. That's the local. The local FFF. Fuck, fuck, fuck. No, family, friends, and fun, I think is supposed to stand. Yeah, fuck, fuck, fuck. It's actually, the games there are nice. I would go more if it wasn't 45, 50 minutes away for me. Plus, when they have league during the week, it's like, I don't get home until 11, 11.30, and I've got to work the next day. I don't know why they have league out in the middle of the week. It's hard. That's why I like our league. Sunday afternoon, 3 p.m., doors are open, 4 p.m. You're done by 6.37. It's not too late of a night. to watch some football, still have a good time. You know, whatever you want to do. Thanks again for the great episodes, and I appreciate the buying advice. Thanks, Steve. Good luck with your Harlem Globetrotters. That's Steve. Scott. Okay. Edit that out, Ron. Oh, no, I can't do that. I don't edit. I have not been editing the last few at all, and no one has said anything. You hear Bruce's fucks all the time.
    52:02
    Yeah, no one said anything. So I guess I was just being too anal. Oh. Oh, yes. But the thing is, it's so much easier now. I just do basic EQing, compression shit, and I make notes if you really say something horrifically offensive that I have to cut out. And that's about it. So three or four times he's edited and that's about it. That's about it. Shit happens. All right.
    52:27
    And we should say, we're going to get one of our guests on that I've requested to be on. That's going to be coming up in the next episode. So, Ron, make it so. Oh, oh. I'm looking right at his email here. There you go. Perfect. Make it so. Oh. Respond to it right now. Yep. I'm not. I can't do that. What the fuck? See what I got to put up with people? Yeah, I'm terrible. This is bullshit. All right. Next email is from Jim. Hi, Jim. Good morning, guys. Good morning. What can you tell me about Pinball Alley in Rochester, New York? Good or bad? I heard Ashley does great work with them. Ashley is awesome. Has said many good things about their work. Thank you for your time. Cheers, Jim. Okay. Ashley is awesome.
    53:14
    We get all our new in-box games, most of them, the LEs from them. The owner, he's an asshat. Wow. Plain and simple. Wow, okay. Plain and simple.
    53:26
    Guess what? Ashley is what makes that place happen. Okay. Ashley is awesome. Are you going to give any quantifying information for that opinion? Oh, this guy, he's just the cockiest SOB there is.
    53:43
    One of the times me or Zach will sell a game, we'll post it in all the things local, including Craigslist and everything. One time I had a Grand Prix.
    53:53
    My Grand Prix was pretty nice. I had it for $1,000. Back glass was all reds. Cabinet was great. barely anywhere where he emails me goes what will you take for the game i was like well what are you offering you know i knew who it was i'll give you five hundred dollars cash no no you won't that's exactly what i wrote back he goes you're not going to sell for a thousand dollars of course i sold it three days later for 950 he was right i sold it for 950 not 500 everything he thinks anyone else is selling is worth shit. Anything that he's selling,
    54:35
    the Midas fucking gold touch has fucking been touched by him on it. Now, Ashley makes that place. Ashley's artwork and restoration skills are second to none. She touches shit up. She's great at what she does. Trust me, if I had a full-time business, I'd be lucky to have her.
    54:57
    Unfortunately, he's an asshat. if you want a nice restored game, I'd tell you to buy one from them. You know why? Because it'll keep Ashley in job.
    55:07
    That's the only reason why. Okay. If it's a rare game or something you're looking forward to, yes, go for it. If you want a new inbox, go for it there. But if you're going there, don't go there to try to play a game. God forbid he's got like 40 games in the showroom. As soon as you start playing one, this isn't an arcade! Arcade. But I might be interested in buying this one. This is an arcade.
    55:32
    Okay. Next email is from Clark. Hi, Clark. Says, hey, guys. Where's Lois? Oh, God. Here is the history of your favorite catchphrase. And it's a link to a video. And actually, this video has been around. I saw this video years ago. It's been on YouTube. But it must have, like, made the rounds on social media because I had several people send it to me. But it's George Takei. on a show, I think a British show. The British show, the British talk show. He talks about how the Oh My came up. Which was basically the first time he was on Howard Stern and he walks in and Stern hears him talk and says, you know, you got a low voice, you must have a big dong. And he's like, well, this isn't live, is it? And he's like, oh, yeah. He's like, oh my. Oh my.
    56:21
    Yep. Yeah, my wife said the same thing. Did you ever know? I'm like, I know the story. Trust me on the story. So thank you, Barton. Thank you, sir. Of the Richmond Pinball Collective.
    56:31
    Ooh. The other RPC. The earlier RPC. Oh, you said better, and then you tried to correct yourself. I will say that, because they've been around for 12 years. Ah. I'm not going to deny that. They've been around longer. They're the OG.
    56:44
    Let's see. I don't like it that way. I'm not that. I have one here. This is from a Christopher Franchi. Ooh, who's that guy? Ron, I ran into you at Expo. as well as your dad. Both of you acted like you wanted to be anywhere else but talking to me.
    56:59
    Got a problem with fat people? Just rudeness just running the family. I was highly offended. What gives? I want my logo back. See? Chris, as the other person in the logo, now you see what I put up with all the time. Now you see it. See? I'm the easygoing, happy-go-lucky guy. I talked. Ron is the stubborn little. Look, he's – wait a minute. This is the problem when you have two popular podcasts. He has to be the, oh, look at me. Yeah, it's a hard thing I have to deal with, Chris. It really is.
    57:34
    I feel your pain. I really do. I, you know – Go on. Get yourself out of this one. No. Hot shot. Me and Chris – yeah, me and Christopher, we had a conversation about his fun with the hotel. but I felt I couldn't do it justice by saying it on the show but involved Christopher Franchi Dave Fix Gary Flower in a hotel room that's right baby it involved that baby but my dad I mean I can't see him my dad never shuts up I can't see him, that's so weird what did you two do to him? Chris, next time I see you which who knows when it will be, I'm going to give you a big hug for both of us because Ron's too good to give the hugs out lately, if you noticed. And I am always giving. Listen, Franchi. Now, my dad is the one that was talking with Steve Ritchie for two hours at Pintastic. Listen, brother. So if he hears this, then he's going to seek you out the next show, and he's probably not going to leave your booth ever. So then you're going to be there like, what did I start? Why did I do this? This is a mistake. I'm just warning you. I'm just warning. Well, he's too big for his head, Chris. You nailed it on the fucking head.
    58:56
    Nailed it. Winner. But seriously, thanks for the text. Thank you, sir. Yes, Chris actually messaged me also after about the dog. And Chris has always been a good friend of the show and a good friend. And that's what we need more in pinball, people who care. Thank you, Chris. and a lot of people did reach out i'm you know a lot of our friends did you know steph was the first one oh my god you know and you know everybody i was very touched by all the outpouring thank you guys everyone speaking of the pinball princess oh oh boy that's the last one i better sit down for this no you better open up email because it has links what she is doing a would you would you You cannot buy that. And she is sending us some – these are on Facebook, so – Oh, they might be gone by now. Yeah, we can't really give the codes out or anything. No. At least it's going to be kind of a pain. It would be. And they're in a marketplace which may not be public, depending on where it is. Oh, I've got to sign in again. Jesus Christ. Jesus. You're funny. I'm going to enter the password, which I have saved. Luckily, Ron gave me the password. I was worthy enough to get the password from Ron. Yes.
    60:11
    Let's see. Hold on. I got to. You said hold on. Actually, let me open this. I got to open this up in another browser.
    60:23
    Exciting. Browser opening action. Okay. I'm logging in. Oh, my God. You're logging in. So the first one I'm looking at, you'll see it eventually. It is a, what the hell is it? Get into it. I'm doing it, big boy. Yeah. It's in Red Hook, New York. it's only 500 bucks. Ooh. So, okay. These are actually things you might want to buy. It's a star action. The fuck's a star. I don't know. It's by Williams. It's got one of those. Um, it's got the spinny thing in the middle, like, um,
    61:00
    uh, tales of the Arabian nights. Oh yeah. Yeah. Valley. No, it is a Williams. It's Williams. I said Williams.
    61:09
    I mean, It's only $500. Yeah, pass. Everything is there. It needs to be cleaned up. I mean, it works. But you would pass just because you don't like the game? Yeah, I play the game. It's not that great. Okay. Oh, my God. Bruce would not buy it. I can't see this one after this one.
    61:26
    You can't? The next one. Oh, God. I can't see it. Oh, you can't see it? No, I can't. You'll see. Oh, no. Is it clown? Wait for it. Yeah. Wait for it. Oh, it's full clown? All right. Hold on. Let me. Let's look. it is a not opening oh it's an f-14 tomcat that is full i don't know if it's clown because it's kind of a uniform color but it's a uniform it's red and blue oh my god oh it's bad but it is an example of plug and play for only three thousand dollars oh my god oh my god um no and then the apron even lights up even that that's the douchiest things oh that's not too bad oh it's bad it's right red it's like you know it's like the only thing that looks cool about it is it's like the jets off oh wait a minute when it's off it looks better Oh, it looks off. It's really nice game. You know, when your game looks better off, that's not good. Now, he even has a sign above it. Did you see this in one of the pictures? It has a rolling sign. You notice the custom plastics? Yes, and the pop bumpers.
    62:43
    Let's see the sign. I'm looking for the sign. He does have a lot of pictures. It's the 7th of 8th, second to last one. I think I already went through them, so what am I missing? You're missing it. It's the 7th of 8th one. It's the upper play field. Oh, it's got like a Beta Brightside thing. Yeah, Beta Brightside in it. It looked like an old Stern game. It does. Sorry, early 2000s Stern game. Yeah, you can see the pop bumper in the middle.
    63:10
    It's got the special popover cap. Yeah. Yeah, this is pretty douche chills. That's pimped out. It's bad. To an insane degree. Yeah, that's – Okay. That's a no. Probably not getting that one, no. No. All right. Next one's bad, too.
    63:27
    Wow. I'm going no already on that one. Well, it's already sold. I know. Thank God. It was sold for $300. Well, no, it went down in price to $300. But it's the Alive pinball machine, the one with Elvis with a fro. Yes. Elvis with an afro. Yeah. Like a home model, I believe. It's Brunwick. Yeah, no coin door or anything. No. You had it for $500, then dropped it to $300, then it sold. Yep. I mean, it's $300.
    63:55
    Yeah, no. I mean, I would never buy the game, no. Next one for me is a no, too. Bruce, you're going ahead of me. Well, you'll see. You'll see why I say no again. I'll see why you say no again. Yep. Wait for it. Wait for it, folks. Wait for it.
    64:09
    Let's see. It is a... Wait a minute. It's another one. Wait a minute. And it looks like the same listing almost. It's not, though, because there's an apron on the first one. There's not an apron on the second one. It's alive. And, yeah, there's no apron. And this one was $800 and then dropped to $675 and has not sold. Surprise, surprise. Yeah, no. That's, no.
    64:36
    Yeah. I mean, it's missing the apron. You can't have Elvis without his apron. Yes. Thank you very much. Thank you. This next one's funny. This one's the best one. It is the ones making the F-14 look good.
    64:51
    Okay, I think I got the wrong one then. I'm on the triple strike. Yes. Oh, yeah. Wait, wait, wait for it. Oh, wait for it. Okay, the first picture is not on. Not on, and the back glass is peeling. Oh, look at the – it looks like it was taken with a cell phone from 2005. Yep.
    65:08
    Okay. Okay, there's no lights at all. Holy shit. these are the worst pictures I've ever seen it's literally just the first one's the back glass and then the second one is a full shot a shot of the full game but it's so dark you can't see the play field and it's blurry so then we get the next one it's blurry and you can't see anything literally the same exactly the same picture holy shit $1500 you want for that dude put some fucking effort into it that just makes me angry. You need more effort if you want to sell the thing. That's so bad. Oh my god, what the hell.
    65:53
    Just like... Next. Okay, next. It's the same game with better pictures. No, it's not. Yes, it is. That's Crescendo. No. I got Crescendo. Lucky Strike Pinball is underneath it. You skipped one. The Triple Strike. I'm pretty sure I didn't skip one. You did, because I'm looking at it. Well, if you're looking at it, then clearly You are wrong.
    66:16
    Hold on. Maybe I did skip. Okay, yes. Crescendo is the next one. Sorry. So I'm right again? Please say it. Once in a blue moon. Please say it right. Once in a blue moon, he's right. Okay.
    66:26
    Okay. See, he admits to it. Thank you. Crescendo pinball. Stop. Crescendo pinball. Nice. Works. 850. Now down to 795. And not only are the pictures better, there's actually a video. You can see it in action. It's flower power. 10 times the flower power. It is. Flower power. And drop targets. Oh, it's converted to 3-inch flippers for longer ball times. Okay, look at the center. Yeah. It's going to be tough to drain on this sucker. You ain't draining this one. You ain't draining.
    66:59
    Wow. Yeah, but you can always put the right flippers back on. What the fuck? I'm trying to get out of that. It started playing sounds. I was like, no, don't play sounds. I mean, it looks fine. I mean, if you really like flower power. Oh, he includes, I think he's going to include the original flippers for you. Wow.
    67:21
    Backglass isn't bad, but it's a terrible game. Okay, Bruce doesn't like the game, but I mean, as far as condition, it looks fine. Sure. Okay, next one. Sure, that's not bad.
    67:33
    Okay, just two more folks of this. And we have a Lucky Strike pinball machine. Same game, same place. Wait a minute. They got better pictures. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah, okay. I can actually see the plate fill. Yes. Maybe you didn't want to. Okay, wait a minute. One shot with the glass on. It's hazy as fuck, and you still really can't see anything. Yep.
    68:01
    Okay, let's move on. I'm not even going to. But it's half the price now. That was $700. Ah. One more of these gems that she's found us. oh god would we buy anything let's see we got ultraman no oh wait a minute it's only 5500 wait a minute milford pennsylvania that sounds familiar yeah it sounds very familiar is that a distributor distributor yeah i think that's a distributor so 5500 for ultraman which sold for what originally 75 8 almost yeah yeah no no no well it's not new only a few hundred plays yeah I'm not surprised. It has many mods. I wonder if the mods were before or after they played it. Yeah. Probably before. It's a true collector's machine. It's making that F-14 look really jam-ish.
    68:54
    Oh, my God. Look at the red. I know. It's really red. The colors are interesting. It's very red. Yeah, it's very red. Nope. I did not buy any of these except for the one I would buy, if anything, would be F-14. I like the picture because it's got Fosma's name right on it. Like, he's not even on the game anymore. And he's not even working for Spooky. He's with Barrels of Fun now. Yeah, Barrels of Fun.
    69:19
    Okay. That was pretty scary, Steph. Thank you. Thanks, Steph. All right. So thanks for everyone for your emails. your emails again. It's a slam tail podcast at gmail.com.
    69:37
    So now to, uh, and the program, we're going to go through all the Facebook questions. We got all of them, every single one, every single one. Wow. We'll try to, we'll see what happens. Every single one. We'll see what, where it takes us. Okay. All right. So yeah, Bruce asked for questions.
    70:03
    Let's see. Okay. This is from Derek. If Bruce Nightingale had an adult crane game, what would the prizes be?
    70:12
    Hmm. Uh-huh. Hmm. Oh. Hmm. Beavis and butthead dolls. Yeah, but adult. I think he means porn. Oh. So, like, Steel Panther dolls. Steel Panther dolls with dicks attached to them. anatomically correct yes anatomically correct with a handful of astroglide in the in their hands oh okay you see you're editing now so glad everyone has sent their question okay jake asks uh how about talking about some of the custom games such as the upcoming hellraiser and the greatest showman i've seen the hellraiser artwork is cool it is cool it's by uh brian allen The guy who does those, he does like the remade, whatever. Remade B-game translates. He's also done the show shirts for Allentown for the past two years.
    71:09
    So, yes, very talented artist. I mean, I like to play it. It's a rethemed Devil's Dare. I love Devil's Dare.
    71:18
    Man, the art is good on this. And it's got, actually, Devil's Dare was used in that Nicolas Cage movie where he's at the – where the animatronic animals are like trying to kill him.
    71:31
    I can't remember that. You see that one? He's playing the game, which is supposed to be – think of it as like Chuck E. Cheese and he's playing the Chuck E. Cheese game. That's not what it's called. Yeah. But they rethemed a Devil's Dare.
    71:46
    I want to see that new movie with the Five Nights at Freddy's. Oh, isn't it like the same thing? Yes. It's like, wait a minute. And the weird thing is, Nicolas Cage never says a single word the entire movie. No, he doesn't. Yeah, it's pretty bad. That was pretty interesting. Pretty bad. Honestly, I thought the practical effects were good, but whenever they started doing the CGI shit, it looked terrible. Oh, it was really bad. It was cheesy. Also, you have seen it. Yes, I have. It's not for me. Yeah. Next! Okay. Yeah, the artwork is killer.
    72:23
    So, yeah. Have you seen Hellraiser movies Yes first two Not the six after that Yeah I remember the first one because it got Scorpio from Dirty Harry in it Yeah That why I remember it All I remember is just chattering the teeth. Oh, God. Yeah, it's weird. Pinhead. Yeah, Pinhead.
    72:43
    Well, that wasn't Pinhead. There was one that's just like teeth. Yeah, the Chatterer. The Chatterer. Let's see. And The Greatest Showman, I had to look that one up. Yeah, I've never seen that. it's a rethemed whirlwind it's a good play field to uh to pick and it's based off the um there's a huge hackman movie yeah huge hackman movie where he's i think he's pt barnum yes yeah yeah yeah so we'll see those at an upcoming show i'm sure soon soon released but the artwork on uh hell razor looks awesome that was yeah yeah i i would say if if that was actually a real legit Not homebrew, but you get people interested in that one. Maybe they could win the American Dream contest. Yeah, who won the last one? Who won this one at Expo? No, someone won that. I said someone won that, baby. I just can't say who because, you know, that might give away what the theme is going to be, baby. Oh, God. Supposedly. Yeah.
    73:40
    Okay. We have one from the Pinball Princess staff. Let's see. She has questions. If you got a bag of jiggly tiny dicks, what? We don't bring this shit up. Wait a minute. Think the kind of stuff you would see in the back of Spencer's. Which parts of which back glasses are you sticking the dicks on first?
    74:04
    Which back glass we're putting the dicks on first. Okay. There's three I'm thinking of. Okay. Bruce, it's all you. Okay. First, Elton John the original, where he's by the piano playing. Yeah. Okay, that's the first one. You're going to put a dick on Elton John? Yep. Okay. Second one is Barbed Wire with Barb Tranny. Oh, Jesus Christ.
    74:37
    And the third? The third one. What could we do? The third one I had in my head and it just went away. Uh, what was the third one? Uh,
    74:48
    Oh, whirlwind flying dicks all over the place. Fly. Or you can put it on quick silver, make a green. Ooh. And have an extra or, or on queen since, uh, was it John Deacon's like crotch areas where the speaker is. He just had one coming out of the speaker. Yes. Oh God.
    75:08
    Uh, Matt says you can take as much time off as you want. pinball and us will both still be here thank you matt hey we're back we're back better than ever cory just wanted to pass on a quick word of appreciation for the podcast thank you for the hours and hours of entertainment the hours now shit i thought we were up to days of course let's see scott says the sky is falling in pinball my collection is only worth pennies now le prices 100 uh 1999 by thanksgiving now i can buy the classic sterns that jumped in price since thanks to the slam till podcast fuck yeah so so are they cheaper now can i get a more uh a cheaper quicksand well there was a viper out today there was a viper for sale in washington state 4k gone in like an hour and a half yeah i would jump on that it's the best turret game ever best turret game that's the most turret game i could think of but yes maybe a trivia segment mostly commenting just to say I love the show thank you trivia how long have me and Ron known each other oh I'd have to find the Yahoo post whenever that thing I went to was I think it was 2005 or 6 it was 2005 ah ok let's see in the episode Beavis and Butthead episode Tornado.
    76:35
    They see the news where there's going to be a tornado, so they immediately go to the trailer park because they figure that's where the action is going to be best. What was the name of the trailer park? I may have asked this one before. I don't know. I can't remember. Windy. No. The Almost Florida Trailer Park. Oh, God. That's douchey.
    76:54
    All right. Gary, let's see. A show on the state of pinball with what you like and what you hate. Maybe a little discussion of your pinball history. The state of pinball. The state of pinball right now is way better than when I started. The state of pinball is good, but the pricing is just ridiculous. And now you're seeing the little dip. Well, the state of pinball when I started was only one manufacturer. It's kind of dying. You can't get hard to get any parts.
    77:24
    Stern games are old. Stern games are really cheap. Yeah, they were. um you started about 2003 2004 yeah i started back in 83 84 yeah wow you're old i am old but i'm sexy too this all works out together a discussion of your pinball history well there you go i started in 2004 bruce started 83 since the 80s yeah i bought my first pinball machine in 83 and my first video game in 85 and you got your first pinball machine from a crack house right? Yep, Crack House. Crack House and Paramus. Mine I overpaid from Patterson. Mine I overpaid from Realtor New Jersey.
    78:04
    So there you go. And I still have it. My Black Knight. Yep, I sold my KISS about 15 years ago. Why did you sell KISS, Bruce? It's the greatest game ever. Well, I thought you were going to retire five times already, Gene. Are you actually retiring next month? We're on our third farewell tour, Bruce. Are you retiring? Of course. Because the last show is in MSG in December. Of course, yes. Definitely retiring this time, Bruce.
    78:34
    And then all the paraphernalia from this last tour will be sold at kissonline.com. Yes, it will. Yikes. I assume there's some good content from the Sanctum. Oh, sorry. Anthony asks, I assume there's some good content from the Sanctum battle this past weekend. Lots of really tired people. Yes.
    78:53
    And the winner was Bowen? Oh, yeah, Bo and Karen's won. It was like, you know what? It was done by 6 o'clock in the morning. You know when we had the Pinbergs and they had the qualifying round and Keith Elwin would be so far ahead of everyone?
    79:08
    That's basically what this was. It was basically, unless he fell asleep and missed a round, and even then, he would still win.
    79:17
    It was, yeah. That's pretty bad. And Jerry, former winner Jerry, he was there hoping to get in on the wait list, but he was too short, two players short. He's not that short. I thought he's the one person I think that could have battled it for. But once he didn't make it, I figured it was Bowens to lose. And then about halfway through, it's like, yeah, it's definitely his to lose at this point. Yeah. Because he was constantly – because it's Swiss pairing, so he's constantly in the top group and he's still taking like six, seven, eight, nine. Six, seven points, yeah. Yeah. Every person that moves up, you just swap back down and keep on going.
    79:56
    Let's see. We got one from Chris the Podcaster. I said all of them would be answered. Let's see. I mean this sincerely. Sincerely. Because he said, do a show talking about things you miss. No, you guys hate me. Hate is a strong word. Let's see. Yes, let the feelings flow through you. Okay, Chris DePaca, do a show talking about the things you miss. I miss Pinberg. I miss cheaper pricing. I miss Pinberg, definitely, though. I miss a lot of locations that aren't around anymore. Yep. I miss the Silver Ball Saloon. Yeah. on my old, well, I guess it's still my ongoing YouTube channel, the non-Slam Tilt one, my Gizmonic channel. Like in my early days getting into the hobby, I filmed everything.
    80:52
    So when I look back at it, I see things like the Papa facility. Yeah. I miss that warehouse. I miss being there until like 1 in the morning. Yep. I agree. Just playing games. It's, yeah, a lot of locations. It's like, oh, that location is not there anymore. or that location's not there, or that location's not anymore.
    81:13
    It's sad. It all works out that way, unfortunately. But I miss some of the locations. I miss some people. We've lost some people who are very good friends of ours, and we're not getting any younger folks. Nope.
    81:29
    What else do I miss? I miss my long drives I used to do. yeah I don't it's when I started there was nothing around me so if I wanted to go any events it was like minimum three and a half hour drive so I would do stupid shit I would drive three and a half hours to like eight on the break to play in a tournament where the finals didn't even start till almost midnight yeah and then I'm leaving at like one two in the morning and getting home like fuck and the sun's up like what did I do you know So I miss a lot about this hobby. I miss almost like going to auctions. There used to be a ton of auctions. Like down in Jersey, they'd have one every year, or you'd go to one down in Pennsylvania. Oh, yeah. I remember the one I went to where you bought those power strips that you had forever. Yeah. Remember that? Yeah. Where was that? Wayne, Wayne, New Jersey. Yep. I just remember that for whatever reason. It was cheap stuff. I used to come home with trucks of games that were $50, $100 video games. I'd fix them up, wait for Christmas, and sell them for $400 or $300 and make some money on it.
    82:47
    It was great back then. Now, God, you know. I remember complaining that when Medieval Madnesses were $4,500. What the hell? I ain't paying $4,500 for a fucking Medieval Madness. Now, you know, ka-ching.
    83:01
    So, you know, it's just different stuff. You know, there's a lot of change in a hobby. You're on time. There you go. Yeah. A lot of change. So there you go, Chris. There's stuff we miss.
    83:14
    Let's see. Derek. Actually, Derek says, hope everything is okay, which you answered. Yes, I did. Thank you, Derek. Arc 80s LLC. Always good to take a break. And good on you for realizing it. Well, we took our break. We took our break. Too often in life, we plow through things because we feel we have to. Obligations. Yeah, I felt like I had to edit. When it turns out, I didn't the whole time. No, the whole fucking time. Look how much time you wasted. Although if I was doing an episode with like eight guests, like the GTF episode, that is my – I consider that my editing masterpiece. Yes, because there are so many people on there. So many people with different quality mics and different sound levels.
    83:56
    Obligations can suffocate a soul. It's good to come up for air once in a while. Cheers. Cheersies. Let's see. And the last one, okay, this is a good one to end with, and I think I got them all. Let's see. I'm not missing anyone, right? I don't know. I don't think so. Leave this up to you. Colin, things in the pinball hobby that make you laugh. That's easy. Bruce.
    84:18
    What makes me laugh in the pinball hobby? I know exactly what it is. Some of these people who think they're going to make a million dollars owning pinball.
    84:27
    Or a million dollars running pinball. Yeah. Well, owning pinball, too. Like, oh, I'm going to make this game's worth $10,000. It's going to be $25,000. No, it's not. So that makes you laugh like, ha-ha. Yes, it does.
    84:43
    Yes, it does. Yes, trying to think of what new Bruce-isms Bruce will come up with during the podcast.
    84:50
    It's still not in the dictionary. I'm very disappointed with you, Steve. Oh, Steve Bowden, the pinball dictionary. You need Bruce-isms. Stuff that makes no sense except to Bruce. And to you now. Well, you can kind of figure out what, what, what are, I'm trying to think of some of the really good ones. You have to admit it though. I have, I've gotten you now used to the Bruce-isms. Yeah. I mean, half the titles of our episodes are Bruce-isms. Yes. So thanks for all the questions. Yes. Thank you guys. Everybody. Thank you for pulling my ass out of the fire for half the time because, Fire! Fire! I was not truly into it. Yeah. We, we got to have you into it. Yes, and I'm looking at the row of my sterns right now. I love my sterns.
    85:36
    It's Cheetah, Split Second, Free Fall, Big Game, Stargazer, Nineball, Ali, and Dragon Fist. And Quicksilver's on the floor.
    85:52
    I still got more at the coop. Oh, and to Scott, and I probably should email him too, but I'm too lazy. It's easier to do it this way. I've been testing your cheetah, your new cheetah code, and me and Dad, we did play some four-player games on it to test it out, and we did not get any lockups or any sudden resets of the game.
    86:15
    You're using an original board with that, or are you using one of the new? Original board. It's an original board. Okay, so I can even test it, too, if you want, because I need blue sounds on my green cheetah. Oh, yeah, these are blue sounds. Good, because these are terrible. The only thing is, I think at the very beginning of the sound, it sounds like it's cutting it off, but I'm sure Scott would blame somehow my soundboard or something on my game. Yes, it's always my fault. So what I'll probably do is, since I haven't streamed anything since Stop, think about that.
    86:43
    I might just do like a tech, not a tech stream, but I'll just stream Cheetah and play a bunch of four-player games and see if we can get it to crash or do anything weird. There you go. And show off the new functions. There's all kinds of new options with this. all selectable by dip switch. Nice. Are you doing anything for Thanksgiving this year, sir?
    87:02
    Since it's next Thursday. Is it next Thursday? It is next Thursday. No. It is next Thursday. Oh, yeah, you're right. It is next Thursday. Yes. I don't think so. I don't usually do anything. I didn't know. Usually I probably go over to Dad's and eat steak.
    87:18
    I like that. That's actually cool. Yeah, I haven't had turkey for Thanksgiving in centuries. I hate turkey. I don't hate turkey. I wouldn't mind some turkey and mashed potatoes. I like that. But I remember my dad would – and I feel like we've done this conversation before before another Thanksgiving. We probably have because it's been since 2016 now. Yes. But like the mashed potatoes my dad would make were always better because he used the actual masher doing it the old-fashioned way. Oh, yes. You crush them all down, yes. And when I would have it in other places, they would use the – you know, the – Yes, the whisker. And it would make it too smooth. His was just like the right... Chunkiness? Chunkiness, yeah. You were a little chunky monkey, weren't you? Yeah. Now you're making me hungry. See?
    88:02
    I like turkey for a lot of things, but I just don't like it at Thanksgiving. I like a turkey sub. Turkey subs are awesome. I actually like the Thanksgiving subs that we have once in a while by us, which you have the cranberry, the stuffing, turkey.
    88:20
    Scintillating conversations about pinballs. Oh, that's what I'm thinking about. When I go usually to the Sanctum, I usually get one of those subs. Ah.
    88:29
    The Angelos. Oh, I guess the pizza place there that you hate. Oh. The Rendezvous or the something Rendezvous. Yeah. The wood oven pizza with a wood oven that's like 100 years old or whatever. I guess they were on Barstool Sports. They were on something where their pizza got reviewed and got rave reviews. And so now it's harder to get a pizza from them because they are just swapped constantly. They have people driving in from an hour away to get their pizzas. I'm so sorry for those people because they haven't had real pizza. I ended up getting one slice of it, and it's still good. I love it. No, it's not. Oh, yes, it is. No, it's not. I love that pizza. I wonder what Zach would think of that pizza. Oh, he'd hate it. I know. Because it's thin.
    89:14
    I don't think he likes thin pizza. It's not burnt. It's crispy. Burnt. No, it's not burnt. It's beautiful. Berg.
    89:24
    Okay. Okay, Bruce. Yes. So thanks. Yeah, thanks for all your questions. Thank you, guys. Thank you for making us go. Making us go. Yeah. So I think we're done.
    89:39
    Fries are done. Just like an apple pie with that. Don't forget the holidays are coming. And what can you get us for the holidays? We want presents? I always want presents So Bruce, what events are coming up at the beautiful Rochester Pinball Collective that you may want to plug? I couldn't tell you until I looked at the thing on the events I wasn't prepared for this Hold on give me two seconds I don't do the events I do the repairs mostly Bruce just shows up and if there's an event Hey I'll play on it So you can do all the Oh, well, he's looking that up. So we are the Slam Tilt Podcast. This has been episode 218. Check out our website at www.slamtiltpodcast.com. All our links are in the upper right-hand corner. Every time I look at it, I notice it still says Twitter and not X. I just refuse to change that. I agree, too. That name sucks so bad. I totally agree. And I'm doing it in protest. They took Gene's handle. Yeah, Gene X. Oh, thank you, Gene, for the picture. he sent me a Polaroid of the, he took at Expo. Oh my. So thank you. Oh my. Oh, and I also wanted to say, there was one more thing. Yeah. Listening to a recent pinball profile where they had the Barrels of Fun crew on there. And I kept seeing like, I always say that Bowen is the rules guy for Labyrinth, but it was actually Phil Grimaldi who was the rules guy for Labyrinth. Oh, okay. So just to give credit here. He was here around for a while. Yes. He was in that, I think he played in that tournament that I don't know the results to. Yes, he did. That happened at the Houston Arcade Expo. Yes, it was.
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    Such a bad host. Yes. Are you ready? I'm ready for the upcoming events, Bruce. December 1st, the Stern Army strikes at the RPC. Uh-huh. It is Friday, December 1st at 5 p.m. Tournament starts at 6.30. And Zach will not be there, I assume. He might be. He might not be. He might be a Pinsonati, right? Yeah, yeah, unless he cancels out. I don't know. He only put a questionable mark on this one. He didn't say yes or no.
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    So that's the only thing coming up. We will be open, not for Thanksgiving, but we will be open the day after Thanksgiving. I think we're open for a couple hours. Ah, what is that? Cyber Friday. Black Friday. Cyber Friday or whatever. Cyber Monday. Oh, Cyber Monday. I don't know what these things are called.
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    That's my other streak. I've worked every single Black Friday ever. I don't. I did work last year, and I worked a year before that. But before that, I had the year from COVID that we didn't have it. I always like it because it's dead.
    92:26
    True. It's a good goof-off day. I didn't say that. I would never think of goofing off. Never, ever. Not for a second, no.
    92:34
    Let's see. I'm on another podcast. I'll give this to you. No, you already did it. Sorry, you already did it. I'm doing a second one. I'm bookending it. You already did it. How many did you do last show? I don't remember. You guys recorded last week. How many did you do with us?
    92:44
    Actually, you know what? I don't think I mentioned us at all. There you go. Great job. You'll get a second one. You're right. Yeah, I won't. So fuck that other podcast. Yeah, fuck that other podcast. Oh, I totally blew that. Yeah, I didn't mention us once. I need to make a note then for myself because otherwise I'll forget. Yeah. Because I am old. Thanks for that. Yeah, man. I didn't mention it at all. David Dennis of the aforementioned show. If you can, like, when you're editing, just, like, paste in a plug from a previous episode. I know you love editing, too. So if you could do that, I'd really appreciate it. That would equal up what we're at right now. Yeah, that would equal up what we're at right now. Okay. And, again, we can be emailed at slamtailpodcast at gmail.com. Thanks to everyone in their Clusterfuck thread. Yep. Jeff. Hi, Steph. Hi, Fumble Bonus. Hi, Steve. Hi, everyone. Hi, Zach. I think that's it. I think that's it, too. And glad to be back. When are we recording next? Probably the week. We're not going to do Thanksgiving weekend unless you're going to be around. Oh, yeah, I'll be around. I'll be around, too, on Sunday. So that's not a problem. We'll probably do it Sunday night. There we go. And I've got to try to get guests. The guests. The guests, if they're available. If they're not available that day. If they're available. That's why we need a more solid time because it's like, yeah, we wondered if you could join us. We don't really have a time yet. Sunday night, 6 p.m. How's that? Oh, you want to do night, not morning? I can't do morning. I thought you could do morning. I can maybe do morning, but I guarantee night would be easier for me. Like, even at 5 p.m. Sunday would be easier. Yeah, but that's my... That's my... I do stuff at... Suck it up, Buttercup, for once. Just once. What day would that even be?
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    That would be the 27th? No, 26th, it looks like, Bruce. I don't know. I don't have a calculator in front of me. I'm just going to 26. Yes, you're right. I didn't have a calculator in front of me or anything. All right. I'm looking at your – if you're still a listener, Tom, I'm looking at your email. We promised that everyone who said they would be a guest would be on eventually. Tom C., if you're still listening, please email us and let us know if that works for you. If you don't, Ron will get in touch with you.
    94:59
    Yes, I left it. Boom. If you don't, you can't be on. Okay, Bruce. You got your name? I already got my name. Okay. Until next time, everybody. Say goodbye, Bruce. Goodbye, Miss Miss. We'll be right back. Meteor Level Zero Clusterfuck George Takei Timballs Bruce Isms Tournament Talk Carholer Cheetah Xanadu Cash Grab ELO Ball Break What You Buy It Game You Love Game You Hate Tournament Talk Pinball Princess Sir Oh my.
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    Oh my.