Hello. Hi there. How you doing? Good. We're back. Episode 12, kind of. Yeah. 13th one, but there was a 10 and a half. There was a 10 and a half. Yeah. Oh, let me start my timer because we like to keep it at 30 minutes. But even though Chris Johnson said it should be an hour. I don't know. How do you feel? Yeah. An hour should be 30 minutes. An hour feels like a long time. 30 minutes seems like you could do it on the way to the grocery store. Maybe if you live. I present to you choose to use. Use choose. Oh, my gosh. Thank you, everybody, for the kind words that we've received over the last week, the messages in person, on the Facebook group. It's kind of been awesome. Yeah. And the Facebook group, if you're not in there, you should get in there. The link's in the description. Punk Rock Pinball Facebook group, over 1,200 members now. That's crazy. Lots of Off With Their Heads fans, lots of Alkaline Trio fans, lots of Smoking Popes fans, and other pinball people. Sincere Engineer fans. 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Yeah. All right. Um, well, Mike, we last episode, we had Deanna in here and we recorded two songs with her upstairs. Yep. I just edited those. They look real nice. Thank you. She sounds nice. She sounds amazing. Yeah. Um, they're really great. So can't wait. We're going to release one of those this week. Yeah. Probably Tuesday. Tuesday. Tuesday. Excellent. Excellent. So that's coming. So you're going to want to, you know, make sure you're subscribed to the YouTube channel so you get alerted to that. Some other stuff happened in the last couple of weeks that we didn't get a chance to talk about last week. I'm going to start with my show and tell. Oh, yeah. I was looking. I didn't know if you brought that down. Of course I brought it down. I won the Bells and Chimes Kong launch party. I'm the grand champion. I had a killer game, I got to tell you guys. My average game, I think, on that was $38 million, maybe, going into it. Mike, as we were pulling into the parking lot, Mike went with me. He hung out with some of the other guys while the ladies played. But he gave me, he watched a video on Double Speed. Travis Murry. Travis Murry. On the Pinball Company YouTube. They might have changed the name of that channel, but Travis Murie does these launch party tutorials of all the new Stern games. He's a fantastic player, and he will give you tips on, like, here are the things you need to stack together to score big on X game. I watched the one on Kong. I relayed that information to Stephanie. She was able to execute it. So my first ball, keep in mind, my average game was like 38 million. I might be giving myself a few extra million on that. But my very first ball in the championship round, 198 million. What? Yeah. I was like sweating. I was like thinking this ball is never going to end. I was listening to the other gals watching saying, she just beat my entire high score on the first ball. I'm not going to win this. It was total intimidation. No, it was great. But I think I ended up with like $205 million maybe. I didn't get much on it. I think a little more than that. It was like $220 something. I didn't do much on my second and third ball. Didn't need it. Didn't need it. And it just goes to show that one ball can change it all. One ball can change it all. So that was big news. That felt really great. Yeah, that felt really great. That's your second plaque. Steph also has an Uncanny X-Men launch party plaque. Yeah. I have no plaques. Probably won't get any plaques. With that attitude, you won't. But I've got a plaque in my mind from our live stream last Friday. Joe and Shelly Sharp, our friends Joe and Shelly, we talk about them a lot. If you want to see what they look like, check out our live stream from last Friday. We streamed four hours of the Black Knight Sword of Rage. Like lunatics. Like four-player free-for-all. First person to five wins, wins. Now, Joe shot the best game of the day, but he didn't win the match. I won the match, and I said when we were tied four to four, I think I said to the camera, like, never in my life did I dream I'd be tied four to four with Joe Sharp in a pinball match. Because Joe's a much better player than me. But not Friday on the Black Knight Sword of Rage. too bad if I spoil it for you but if you want to see Joe play midway through the video Joe does grand champ the game he shot the best score we gave away merch like some of this punk rock pinball merch because we set a goal if somebody shoots 400 mil we'll give t-shirts away Joe did shoot 400 mil shipping out t-shirts this week when the post office is back open so if you want to win free merchandise of ours like watch the live streams and if you want to buy merchandise there's a link in the description we would love it if you would buy some I mean I like giving it away but it would also be cool if you bought some because it doesn't it's not free to make it it ain't cheap the hoodies are not cheap hats are not real cheap Ryan from Off With Their Heads makes it all and he has high standards for the merch I must say yeah he does a great job But if you want to win some free merch, watch our next live stream. I'm not sure when that will be yet because this week we're going up to the Papa 22 Pinball World Championships. In Schaumburg, Illinois. At Interium. Yeah, it's a totally different format than anything we've done before. I don't even know what you call it, but you get cards and you play five games on a card. That's all I really know. And there's tons of games. Yeah. There's a regular tournament, a classics tournament, and a women's tournament. Women's tournament. It's going to be like a few days of fun-filled pinball. Most of the top players in the world will be there. I'm not expecting to do much. I'll probably only try because you can get a card and play your games, and you can keep rebuying and do another one if you sucked. I'm not going to do that many because those top people those top players I can't compete but I'm going to just do a card or two see what happens we'll try our best you maybe could if you had a hot day could make the finals in the ladies I don't know there's some really good ladies but you're good too when you get on I don't know maybe it depends we'll see I'm going to give it my all yeah so that's coming up this week I don't know if we'll take some gear and do a podcast up there, maybe. Maybe. But we'll definitely, if anybody is watching this and is also going to Papa, look for us because I'll probably have some goodies in my bag like stickers and buttons and that kind of stuff. Koozies. Koozies. Got these little magnets, these things. Yeah. Little punk rock pinball magnets. You can stick them on a game. I'm going to just stick them on games around. Stick them on your fridge. I'm going to put them around interium. If you find one, please post about it. Let me know. Send us a message and say you found it and you stole it because that's the whole point. Yeah, if you steal it, we'll just go put another one on. Yeah, so steal some magnets, permission granted. Yeah, so this will be like we played in one big interium tournament over the summer, but the Papa one is going to be by far the biggest one we've ever played in. I think it's like 300 players. 300 players. I bet you probably 50 of the top 100 in the world will be there. so like we've got no shot like in the main like no shot no we're just gonna go have fun but even if you qualify like 150th you probably get as many ifpa points as you did for like winning this plaque down here probably but you know joe he a good player cj from down here chris maybe could chris o some of those guys maybe could do could get up there into the into the finals like i don't think even if i shoot a really good card i don't think i'm making like the a finals it'd be and i'm so confident that i won't that I didn't book the hotel for Saturday night because the A finals like go to Sunday and we're going to go home on Saturday. And I'm that confident that neither of us are making that final. So, you know, we'll see what happens. But the women's finals on Saturday. So we'll be there for that. If you make it when you make that. I can always come home with Joe and Shelly. Yeah, that's true. The other thing I wanted to mention is we did something really cool yesterday. Yeah, we played a really neat private collection up in Elmhurst, Illinois. Yeah, so we belong or we participate in a league that is really super cool around the Chicagoland area. And our friend Lily has organized it, and she's picked these really cool locations. And a lot of them are private collections that you don't normally get access to, unless you know somebody like Lily, I guess. So we've just been having a blast in this group. And yesterday we went to Elmhurst to this couple's collection, and it blew my mind. Yeah, it's insane. They have a bunch of modern games that are all like LE, limited edition games, but then tons of classics like Firepower. But not just any Firepower. But they don't like our Firepower. Uh-uh. Every one of their games, like Firepower, Six Million Dollar Man. Future Spa. Future Spa. Dolly. Frontier. Frontier. The Frontier. Oh, my God. Xenon. They were all absolutely perfect. The playfields probably didn't look this nice when they rolled out of the factories. They were incredible examples of those games. Yeah, they had the old Star Trek. There was a Sea Witch, which was the layout of that Beatles, and brand new playfields on every one of them. The chrome on them was all polished chrome. Gorgeous. I don't know if they were reproduction back glasses or originals that were flawless. Either way, all these classic games from the late 70s, early 80s, that just looked probably better than the day they were brand new. Oh, my God. They were absolutely gorgeous. And then lots of games that I've heard about, never played, games that I'd never even heard about. There was a whole slew of European games that were really just cool. Yeah. Really interesting. The artwork is just so different. Mr. Black was very creepy. Mr. Black's scary. That music in there is even scary. and then like the Cyclopses which had a bunch of like scantily clad ladies on them the Cyclopses I think they were like imprisoning these foxy ladies and they're all over the play field these ladies and I think that was a European game too that was not like an American no lots of I think games from Spain the Mr. Black I think everything was in Portuguese I don't know if it was from Portugal or Brazil or where but very cool. I took a bunch of pictures of stuff. Maybe I'll try to make a reel to share some of that, but it was cool. Put it as a YouTube short? Make it a YouTube short. Make it a YouTube short. That was a fun day. We didn't play great. I won on Fishtails. Fantastic example of the Fishtails game there. Brand new play field on it. The Indiana Jones? Probably the best Indiana Jones pinball adventure you've ever seen. Oh, my God. I think in total he had close to 80. uh-huh around about 80 machines he said he has room for like 20 more and he said there's more coming i don't know what i want him to sell the frontier yeah to us oh my god it was gorgeous yeah it was really cool i mean i look on pin side and i see these ones that are you know being sold in the playfields all chewed up and paint i mean because it's a 40 year old game oh my gosh yeah it's kind of overwhelming you go into a place like that like what do i play and i had to play head of ripley's that was a lot nicer than ours we had a topper had the topper but ours i think ours actually shooting wise shoots just as good as that one but his was yeah he's missing the fancy temple and he didn't have the temple mods we got that we had have them outmoded on Ripley's. It's the one game. That was fun. What else? There was big news this week at Stern. Yes. Stern Pinball announced sort of with a very short teaser a new Star Wars machine. Not a Costco home edition. Fall of the Empire it's called. Yep. And we know that it's called Fall of the Empire and we know it's designed by John Borg. So we know, we know, you and I, we know that Mike is going to get it. I'm going to want to get it. Because I'm kind of back into Star Wars now. And I see a lot of people in the pinball groups like, ugh, no, they're Star Wars. And there are a bunch of Star Wars pinball machines. Stern this week is live streaming a bunch of them with Jack Danger. And they did like the first Star Wars that Borg designed, and they had some of the other ones. But I would say, yes, there are a lot of Star Wars pinball machines. And there has not been a single one yet to nail the theme. Even the one that John Borg did? The one that John Borg did is the best. And that was like the first Star Wars pinball machine? That was, I think, maybe the first one. But that's like a DMD game. It's not – you can't have like the movie clips like – Yeah, this is what a DMD is. So it's all like – and it's not even a color DMD. This one is a color. The Ripley's has a color, but the original, you would have to put a color on it. Where there isn't like video, like real video or clips like on the modern Sterns or Jersey Jack or Spooky. Yeah. Or it's actual like animation video. So there's only kind of two Star Wars. you got the home edition and then the Steve Ritchie one which was what year? 2016, 17, 18 the Spike 2 Star Wars by Steve Ritchie I just don't think that but I mean I feel like the Mandalorian also is part of the Star Wars universe so that also counts as a Star Wars game and hear me out on this I know a lot of people don't love the Mandalorian but the Mandalorian in terms of theme integration versus the Steve Ritchie Star Wars, The Mandalorian blows the doors off of the other Star Wars game. It smokes it in terms of what clips they use in the game and things like that. All right, let me just pause here. So Mike has gone on a Star Wars bender the last few months. So when there was rumors that there may be a Star Wars game coming out this fall, Mike started, I don't know, started watching Disney Plus and all of the Star Wars, not all of it. You actually consulted Mike Muse from Mulva, the band Mulva. Yes, they've been on this channel. We've got videos from Mulva on this channel. They've got a new-ish EP out that I mixed. It's on Spotify. Check them out. Mike guided me through my newer Star Wars journey. I started with Andor based on his recommendation then went to Rogue One, then went to Mandalorian and I got to say, so then I traded Venom for Mandalorian because I really liked the show and I've only played it like, it's only been here a day or so, I've played it like 10 or 12 times and all the best moments from that show are in that game Who designed that one? That's a Brian Eddy game Okay. And people don't like Mandalorian. I don't know why. I think it's a fun, it's fun to shoot. And all the best, if you like the Mandalorian, like all the best stuff from the shows are in there. I know nothing about the shows. Whereas that Steve Ritchie Star Wars, that game's so convoluted. The rules are so weird. And I know you can move around the bonus shot and get huge points. but like none of the modes there's at no point do i feel like i'm playing a journey through those movies like not at any point i know you pick your character but like the modes of missions they don't make sense in conjunction with the films like i don't feel like i'm in it at all with that game and that game's about the the first trilogy yeah so that's uh episode episodes four five and 6, which kind of rumor is, you know, Fall of the Empire really could be 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. Like, I'm thinking it's heavily 4, 5, and 6. And I have a feeling that John Borg is going to just smoke the shit out of the Steve Ritchie Star Wars My money is on that this game smokes the Steve Ritchie Star Wars That my expectation is it's going to blow it away. So the bar is high for you. Yeah. And I think it's going to be met. It's going to be what? The bar is high and I think my guy Borg is going to meet. He's going to meet it. He's going to meet it. I'm expecting like really cool integration of the clips into the game in modes that make sense in rules that make sense like most john borg pinball machines is very clear cut like what you need to do there's very few john borg machines where it's like what the hell am i supposed to do on this game and i don't know i don't know who did the code on the steve ritchie star wars but like i don't know i'm not i'm not a fan it doesn't work for you no Your brain works like a Borg. And it's got the geometry problem where you could plunge eight times in a row and just have it go down an out lane every time. Well, maybe that can be tweaked. That's not going to happen on this one. There ain't a John Borg game that does that, not one. So, yeah, John Borg's a superior designer to Steve Ritchie. I said it. And I'm expecting this game's going to kick ass. I can't wait to see it. I mean, Steve Ritchie's done some awesome games. He's done some awesome games. Some really awesome. We love Firepower. We love Firepower. ACDC's fun. What's another one? Getaway. Getaway's fun. No Fear's fun. Yeah. I just think on the whole, John Borg's better. Well, Steve Ritchie's been around longer, so John Borg got to get all of those learnings and go a little bit further. Or at least if you look at the more... Of course, Steve Ritchie did Elton John, which is a high-quality game. I'm not knocking Steve Ritchie, but I think if you look at their output of the last 12 years, 12 or 15 years, Borg has done more in that time and his are better. Again, Steve Ritchie is much older. And he's much older. So we can't all be in our prime forever. Right. Well, we're really excited to see this. Maybe in the next week or so, there should be some teasers coming out. Definitely, this machine is going to be available to play at Expo this fall in September, which we'll talk about Expo when it gets closer to it, but it's a big pinball event in Schaumburg, Illinois. Yeah. So that'll be really fun. We'll talk more about Expo later, but yeah, big news on Star Wars. I can't wait to see it. The other big thing that you didn't mention is Star Wars, The Fall of the Empire is going to be the very first Stern machine that is on their Spike 3 system. Yes. So that's kind of the computer, more or less, system that it's on. So most of the games that have come out in the last 10 years or 8 years, maybe? I think about 10. Like, wasn't the first Spike 3 in 2016? I think it was Aerosmith, maybe? I'm making that up. Batman 66. Okay. So, yeah, they're due for an upgrade, and it's going to be really interesting to see what tweaks they've made to it, what you'll be able to do. We're really hoping that there will be some kind of easy input for us to live stream and tap into the computer so we can have nice – the graphics from the screen and the audio going right into our streaming software would be really super cool. Yeah, because if you want to live stream, like, my Jersey Jack Avatar, it's an HDMI port in the game. And go HDMI into my computer. If I want to do that on a Spike 2 Stern, I have to modify, I have to put a thing on the machine, order a part for $100. I'm not going to do it. So hopefully Spike 3 has an HDMI output. I think spooky games do. I think the new spookies do. I mean it's too late for us to be requesting that they do that because Spike 3 is there now it's done I don't think they'd listen to us anyways and they don't probably listen to this show put a request in I hope there's an HDMI output on the game should make it easy for streamers to stream your product we'll see in a couple weeks yeah I can't wait to see it that's going to be awesome alright so this week instead of a you choose what we're going to do is we did this thing on friday um when our friend chris johnson brought down um we did a trade the mandalorian for we traded venom for the mandalorian and he brought it down from rockford for us thank you again chris yes thank you also brought some really delicious cinnamon rolls that were ridiculous thanks again for that so while he was here, we flipped around for a little bit, and we all came up with a top five, a top five of machines that you, if you could only play five machines from now until the end of time, what are those five machines on your list? And I will read those to you. This is interesting because me and Steph did it, Chris did it, Joe and Shelly did it, and And we all have pinball collections. I don't think Chris does, but we all have a lot of machines that we don't own, which is funny because it's like if this is one you'd want to keep forever, why don't you have it? You have 15. Why isn't that one of them? Right. I was thinking about that. Yeah, I know. So Chris Johnson's top five. Jaws, Evil Dead, Halloween, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and Elvira House of Horror. I mean, he's got a theme there. Yeah, he likes horror movies. Which is awesome. So he's got three spookies and two sterns. That's kind of great. Spooky nails the horror genre. They really do. Man, I inhaled this Mountain Dew. I didn't swallow it correctly. Do you need a second? I need to not die. Sorry for the coughing. Like it went down the wrong pipe. Drink your nectar of the gods. Mountain Dew, the nectar of the gods. I've been drinking it the last few days. I haven't drank a lot of Mountain Dew lately. Maybe that's the problem. Maybe. Wow. Gotcha. Yeah. You all right? I'm trying to be. Oh, Lord. Okay. Okay. Mike, do you remember what your top five were? I don't remember. I had a really hard time with this list Chris sent me an Instagram message what are your top 5 pinball machines to keep forever and I replied Jaws and that was it because I don't know otherwise every other pin that we own I could see it leaving the collection and it wouldn't hurt my feelings I like them all but none of them are like I need to have this forever except Jaws. So what else did you do? I took Elvira House of Horrors. Okay. And I would probably own this by now if Ruben and Angie didn't own it. But I feel like maybe one day we'll trade. Yeah, they're going to want to trade. We've got James Bond in there, which we have owned the pro and the premium. Only reason we don't own it is the last premium had like a ghost in the machine and I didn't want to deal with it. So I traded it for an X-Men. I have Evil Dead. and I have the Metallica Remaster. That's my top five. Those are pretty good. I will also note that when you traded the Bond, you did disclose there's a ghost in the machine. Yes, I traded it to CJ, who is a tech, and I didn't trade it to somebody like, ha, they got this ghosted game. I traded it to CJ, who knew of the ghost, which is why I gave him a premium for a pro, because I don't know if he's fully rid the machine of the ghost just yet. I think it sort of did, but then I think it kind of came back. So I didn't want anything to do with it. But it was fully disclosed, like this game has problems. Yeah. So I didn't like get one over on anybody. No, no, no, no, no, no. All right. My top five. I'm going to start with the two that you and Chris said that I also have. Jaws, of course. Evil Dead. So the three of us had that. I'm saying Firepower. Big Lebowski which is just so fun and Twilight Zone also a good one I haven't played it a ton but there's so much going on in there I think that would keep me entertained for a really long time and you like Lawler games so you need to have a Lawler in there and that too Joe and Shelly I cannot believe did not pick Jaws neither one of them God dang it Shelly said dialed in Lawler game. Lawler. She loves it. She said Bond. Bond is great. Godzilla. Harry Potter, even though... She hasn't played it yet. I don't... Or maybe they played it. No, they did play it. They haven't... They don't have it yet. And she said Pulp Fiction. Which they do own. They have a Pulp Fiction. Yes. That's a good one. Yes. And all of those are in their collection. It's a Mark Ritchie game. Yeah. Steve's bro. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Joe list completely surprised me Yes this one shocked me Because do they own any of the ones on his list Yes one One of them They own Jurassic Park And they have like 17 machines Yeah Yeah All right, so really the only modern one is like modern Jurassic Park. Then he put Dolly Parton. That one surprised me. It shocked me. It's a super fun game. It is fun. Tales of the Arabian Nights, which I knew he loved. Uh-huh. When we were down, what's that place outside St. Louis? Atomic? Atomic, yeah. He was explaining to me how to play it all. Medieval Madness. Yeah, I didn't know he had a big affinity for that. Didn't know? Yeah. And Theater of Magic. Theater of Magic. We were playing Theater of Magic at Tilt, me and Joe, once, and he was like, I like this game. He really does. Yeah. It's in there for him. And I think he'd probably own Tales of the Arabian Nights by now, but there's rumors that somebody's going to remake that. Maybe Pedretti? I think it would be Pedretti. I played that Funhouse Pedretti remake yesterday. It was super cool. I thought it was pretty good, too, yeah. I know the guys on the Flip N Out Pinball stream, they did not love the Funhouse, but I think it was more just the theme and the rules. I think he said it was nice. I mean, it feels like a nice, solid game. yeah the build quality feels good yeah and you do have some nostalgia for fun house i mean who doesn't and it's so creepy and it would just be great in the basement that rudy on the it's like the nightmare edition one he's like real scary looking very scary rudy i'll see if i can put a picture up of this because i did take a picture it yeah kind of the stuff nightmares are made of yeah because she talked about trading trying to trade or sell ripley's and use that money towards the Funhaus remake. Yeah. Like, I know Ripley's is not worth as much as a Funhaus remake, but you'd sell that and... Yeah, it's a loller for a loller. A loller for a loller. I could do that. All right. I also have to mention that Joe and Shelley, on a road trip recently, were driving through Missouri and found these scratch-off lottery tickets that is Jaws-themed, and they bought it for us, which is super awesome. And I promised that I would scratch these off on this next podcast. We did one on the live. We did one on the live. We didn't win. And I've got my numbers. I've got my six numbers here. If we win anything, we'll do something cool for the podcast. Okay. I don't know what that is. But we could win up to $100,000. Oh, boy. If we win $100,000, maybe we'll give away something really fancy. Maybe we'll give away Ripley's, believe it or not. Yeah. If we win $100,000. Okay. If we do, I would. We'd give away Ripley's? Yeah, but we're not paying shipping. I mean, with that $100, we could pay the shipping. I'm joking. Okay. All right, but not international shipping. All right. It's funny we're talking more Jaws. Like our friend JD commented, called this a Jaws cast. It is a Jaws cast. It is like a Jaws cast. All right. Jaws is the reason we're here. My first two lines, I don't have. It's looking like we got... Anything. I don't... Nothing. I got nothing. Not even one of these fancy symbols. I got nothing. That sucks. Got ripped off. Sorry, y'all. No free Ripley's today. It was a rip-off, just like in Ripley's. Rip-off. Rip-off. Spell rip-off. Are we doing a dream theme? Are we doing a dream theme today? I didn't really think about one. Do you have one? I don't know if I have one. We came unprepared with a dream theme. It's just going to crush people if they don't have a dream theme today. I mean, I could always come up with one. It might be actually. In music recommendation, we're going to go with The Drowns. You know, we actually participated in a vinyl release of theirs several years ago. The View from the Bottom, I think the record was called. That was like several years ago, 2017-ish. live from the rock room participated in helping release that vinyl. They have videos on this channel. These guys are pinballers. So check out the Drowns. Kind of like classic punk. Classic kind of like I don't know. It's not quite like oi-punk but it's like in that they wear combat boots. Yeah, super great guys. Yeah, really nice guys. So check those out if you're into more like classic sounding punk. they're definitely not like a modern like pop punk kind of deal it's a very classic punk sounding like check out the drowns yeah check out a ramp shot try a ramp shot um yeah i don't have a theme whose turn it is it's really my turn it's your turn but we're at the half hour mark chris says the half hour rule is arbitrary he says it's bullshit it says it's bullshit Yeah. But it's you choose, do a dream theme or not. So we do have a you choose. Are you going to do a dream theme? Yes, I am. And I don't know if I have said this. I don't think I've said this, but I've talked about it with you. So I'm just going to pull it out. Let's hear it. because it's not on my list of things that we've said. And I know that there is a, like Chris was saying on Friday, that somebody did a homebrew of this, the Beastie Boys. Beastie Boys. Yeah. I know it will never happen, but that would just be so fun. It would be cool, and it would be not a boomer rock band. Not a boomer rock band. If you want to hear us talk about that, go a couple episodes back. Yeah. And some people got mad I called Iron Maiden a boomer band. I still think they're like adjacent to it, but whatever. They're not. You know, you can watch that episode. I think I hurt some feelings. I didn't mean to. Somebody was like, oh, you're offending all generations. I'm like, I'm not trying to offend anybody. You were stating the facts except for Iron Maiden is definitely not a boomer band. Okay. So they're an old Gen X band then. But we were thinking about newer bands. Not that Beastie Boys are new, but it's like how many newer bands other than Foo Fighters? Is there like a Beastie Boys would be one of like kind of the younger bands versus what's existing out there. True. In pinball. That is true. Aside from Foo Fighters. That's totally true. So let's see. I don't know. I've heard that the one guy as the MCA. I'm not sure. like his estate they're just like not ever going to do you can't basically license the Beastie Boys name for anything who would make your Beastie Boys I mean I'm going to go Borg he just gets all the music pins because we also had an episode where we ranked all the music pins and it was like mostly John Borg's yeah he does a lot of them and he does a really good job he knows how to make a music pin yeah and i don't know um i don't know if he would do it at stern or if he would go to like jersey jack maybe not as spooky on this one i guess we'll see with the spike three like because there's supposed to be additional kind of lighting like they've upped the lighting game on spike threes and allegedly maybe the screen's bigger maybe i don't know sound system improved on the le's for sure and i think you can upgrade them you could buy the upgrade kit on a pro so if the spike 3 has the juiced up lights and better audio because jersey jack as it stands today has better audio than a stern out of the box just just does but if the spike 3 audio is like up on that level and the lights are better maybe just have stern do it maybe then borg doesn't have to switch companies. That's true. The guy can stay in his current job. That's true. We'll leave him there. We'll leave him there for now. All right. That's the end. I think that's the end. I feel like some people are probably going to think I was bashing Steve Ritchie there in the middle, but I wasn't really bashing Steve Ritchie. More bashing his attempt at the Star Wars game. I think it was a miss. It's okay. It was a mess. But I'm not bashing Steve Ritchie. We own one of his games. I like a lot of his games. Well, we got the Black Knight. We have two of his games. Mm-hmm. Black Knight and Firepower. Yep. So I'm not bashing. But that Star Wars he did, it ain't that great. Well, it's, you know what? But the Borg one's going to be. It's why they make Neapolitan ice cream. The Borg one's going to be great. Yeah. Because the original Borg one was great. Mm-hmm. It's just limited based on when it was. Who did the home edition? George Gomez. Okay. we haven't played it that day to east one was just limited based on its era right in terms of what you could do like with integrating the theme like into visual assets no more no mo yeah okay all right well toodaloo everybody have a great week yeah we'll see you next time chris sorry we didn't hit the one hour mark yeah well we got 38 minutes eight minutes longer than usual all right see ya See ya.