Hey, Butthead, check it out, pipes. Yeah. I wonder if they're, like, pipes for water, or pipes for, like, crap. Yeah, that would be cool if they really had, like, pipes with crap and turds running through them. They do, dumbass. How do you think all that crap gets out of your house? It doesn't. It's in my basement in little jars. That's pretty disgusting, Beavis. Yeah, I know. Coming to you from beautiful upstate New York, this is the Slam Tilt Podcast, a show about all things pinball. I'm your host, Ron Hallett, here with my co-host, Bruce Nightingale. An all-time high! And welcome to episode 34. Octopussy. Yes. I can say it all the time. Octopussy, pussy, octopussy, pussy, octopussy, pussy. Sorry. That's just my little octopussy. Yes, it is. That's an actual line. I felt a very good villain in Louis Jourdan. Yes. And a good henchman dude with the turban. There, kicking ass. What did he crush? Oh, he crushed the dice. Yes, he did. Into sand. Yep, into sand. He's ripping off Oddjob, who crushed the golf ball. Yep. I was always a fan. I liked the movie. I liked the movie. It had one of the few Bond girls to make a second appearance. Yes. After getting killed in her previous appearance. I think it was Maude Adams. Yeah, Maude Adams. Yes. Returned as, I believe she was Octopussy. Yes, she was. And they were leery about casting her, but they did anyway. Mr. Trivia and James Brolin was actually and Timothy Dalton were both screen tested for this movie before Roger Moore came back for it and the theme music the theme song was All Time High by Rita Coolidge very good and All Time High well news what do we have there's not much news lately other than people getting their Aerosmiths yeah and looks like it's playing pretty good. Oh, yeah. Oh, and people have been getting their aliens also. Yes, a couple more came out, and Magic Girls have come out a couple more, and people are trying to sell them for $50,000 or $33,000 or whatever you want to see on there. Yep. Saw one for $33,000, one for $50,000. Yikes. Gotta love it, gotta love it. Very expensive little piece of furniture. Yes, the tournament went off without a hitch. I played a lot of turds this weekend. That's right. It was the tournament in Buffalo. What kind of awesome games did you get to play? Oh, I got to play Break Shot. Oh, I like Break Shot. Ugh. South Park. Okay, yeah, that sucks. Fireball Classic. I like Fireball Classic. Waterworld. Yeah, that sucks. WWE. Eh. I like it. Ghostbusters Premium. Wow, considering that a turd. Yes, and I got through it. Interesting. Okay. What else was there? There was a couple others. How about Hook? Shrek. Hook. Hook and Shrek. Yeah. I can't remember what else. But it was a good time. Adam Becker won. Jack Tadman was second. And our own Eric S. Russell was third. Points came out today, and there were some pretty good points there. Even me. I finished 11th, unfortunately. Top 10 made it in. I finished 11th. Fail. So, needless to say. Fail. I was not in the money or anything like that, but I got to go home early and have a nice dinner. Woo-hoo. Have Upstate Pointsman put in yet? Nope, not yet. Come on. I want to see my ranking go up. Nope. We're going to make you go down. I'm going to probably do it this week sometime. I've been too busy working on games. Working on games? Yep, but we've still got news before we go into our own little debacles. Debacles? Yeah. I didn't blow anything up. Not yet, anyway. Well, not yet, anyway. What else to do? The Air Smooth looks pretty cool, though. I've seen a couple videos. Yes, our own Tim Balls, Tim Sexton, posted on his Twitch. He had a Twitch feed from Rock Fantasy where they got theirs. They got a pro. Mm-hmm. And I think it made the Stirred Front page, too. It made Stern's Facebook page. That's what it made. So, yeah, it looked just as fun as it did in the other streams I've seen it. Yeah, I think it could be a winner. I think it's a winner. I haven't played it yet, so I'm not going to hold judgment. Hopefully we get to play it in two weeks. I hope so. It's got to be better than Kiss just because the music's going to be better. I don't know about that. Oh, that's right. I forgot Mr. Kiss himself. No, Mr. ELO. Kiss is a close second. A close second. Oh, God. I would say Toys in the Attic alone is better than any Kiss song I can name. Wow. Back in the Saddle is better than any other kiss song I can think of. Love Em, Leave Em? Let's see. Walk This Way is better. Sweet Emotion is better than any kiss song. Just Poetry Group. They retired. No, they're going to have a farewell tour that might last five years. No, but they retired, so that's why they quit for a couple of years, so they're quitters. They're quitters. Oh, man. So, yeah, it looks fun. Yes, it looks really a lot of fun. I'm very impressed with it. Hopefully we get one up here. Actually, we do have one up here. Buffalo just got one today. Of course you do. I'm sure one will be coming in the Albany area any day now. Any year now? Any year now. When are you getting yours? Exactly. That's the only way one's coming to this area. Alien's been coming out more and more, which is nice to see. Looks like it plays pretty good with all the videos coming out. And more people playing Dialed In lately, too. You can never play too much Dialed In. Well, I have not played any of them, so... Oh, that's unfortunate. Did I say that right? You can never play too much. I think I said that right. I'm just thinking. Well, we did have one show that happened over the weekend. That would be the Louisville Arcade Expo. And Trent Augustine won. Of course he did. Of course he did. Wolverine. Wolverine! Wolverine! Especially on the weekend when Logan comes out. Oh, is that the latest Wolverine movie? That's the latest Wolverine movie. As you see, I'm really into the movies. Yeah, I see that. Right on the ball. Right on the ball. Yep, Louisville Arcade Expo. Our own Steven Bowden. Final bonus. Was there? It was there. Finished fifth, right? Fifth, I think he finished? Fifth or sixth, something like that. Hi, Steve. Hello. I saw footage of him playing Dialed In. So that was there. Yes, it was. I guess the code is quite a bit more along from at least what I've been hearing. More disasters. More disasters. You can never have too many disasters. Never going to have too many disasters. Two more months from this weekend. Allentown, baby. Wow, you're going way into the future. But yes, Allentown. Something to look forward to. I always look forward to Allentown. That was my first pinball show I ever went to. That's when I went from, I may buy a game someday to I need to buy a game soon. Yeah, I got my father to go with me. He got to play Meteor for like the first time in 20 years. He was thrilled. I saw like, I remember implicitly, I remember seeing Paragon. I seen that back glass and like, damn, that's some fine art there. And I still remember what the, because back then they had the raffle and you could win the game. Yes. He won a game, and I remember what the game was. The game was Dracula. Little did I know I'd have one years later. Years later. Yeah, other than that, I don't think there's much other news besides, as I said, people getting their games. No more piece of news? No more piece of news. Okay. But, you know, it's a light week, you know. So let's get right into repairs. Repairs. Oh, my God. It's tech time. Tech time. Yes, it is. Tech time with the Lamb Tilt Podcast. We've had some fun with tech, both of us. Yeah, I got a list of stuff I've worked on. Most of it just is simple stuff, and then the big game was giving me some issues, which I worked up. I was working on it now right up to before we went on. So you first. First, I received the Bally new board, the prototype boards. From? I don't know his name exactly, but you do. Andrew, his site is weebly.nvram.com. I hope I got that right. He was nice enough to put a centaur ramen for it. I put it in my centaur, booted right up right off the bat. Everything works perfect on it. I like it because it's a little bigger, so it actually fits the mounting holes now. Instead of the Alltech, the original Bally board is a square board. It's like 11 inches by 11 inches. The Alltech, when you get it, it's like 11 inches by like 7 or 6 inches. It's about half the size. So it sits on the lower half of the mounting holes. I like what he did because he actually pushed it up towards the top, and it's a little bigger. It's like 9 by 11. So it looks a little more original. Perfect mounting. Boot it right up. No issues. Sounds perfect on it. I'm very happy with it for the price for the prototype right now. at 150, I would tell people to grab it right now as fast as they can because it comes with a 6802 chip for the CPU, a couple other new things, no batteries on it. Win, win, win. Win, win, win. And I, of course, screwed up his site. What it is, it is nvram.weebly.com. So I just screwed up the order. nvram.weebly.com. And if you look under his new PCBs, it's right on there. Our first one, new Bally Stern MPUs, now shipping. Use the contact form for more information. So what is it? Read it off to me again. It's NVRAM, as in non-volatile RAM, because that's one of the first things he used to sell, or he still does, was the battery RAM. NVRAM. W-E-E-B-L-Y.com. I'm going to check it out myself. And there it is. And there it is. And on the picture, he's got nine ball ROMs on it. Oh, nice. Very nice. So I was very impressed with the board. It worked really well. He actually has a couple other products there. For a local guy, you know, for a guy that's making it cheaper for all of us, you can use custom ROMs in it, which is great. I definitely highly recommend this, and I'll probably get another one or two so I can keep more alt tech for something else. You got any more? Any more tech? What was I playing with? Viking. I had to order a spinner switch for my Viking because as soon as I got it from Neil, the same day I was hitting and beating on the spinner switch, it broke. So I put that in. Not a big deal. Got a lot of bad light sockets in it. Not a light board issue as it could have been because there was a lot so many out. Started using my cleaning technique with my green scrubby pad and getting in there and digging it all out and cleaning, and I've recovered most of them. Is that a technical, the green scrubby pad? Yep. Yep. Just make it a nice little tight little circle and scrub it in there and scrub the contacts and everything like that. Where do you get these green scrubby pads for those who may want to do it? Any Lowe's, auto parts store, Home Depot. Depot. Are they called green scrubby things? They're called green scrubby pads. Green scrubby pads. Or Scott's Bright. Scott's Bright. Okay. And you want to get green. The brown's a little too hard. Yeah, so Viking, I'm getting that back up. And then my nine ball, I figured out what's wrong with my drop target number two. It's a nine ball. That's what's wrong with it. No, there's actually something broken in it. Of course there is. It's a nine ball. Everything's going to be broken in it. Each individual target has an individual coil reset to drop it down and release the drop target. Well, one of the tabs on my number two is about a half inch shorter than rest. It's broken. Luckily, I know some guy with a spare drop target assembly, and he's going to bring out one for me when we go to California. Really? That sounds like a really nice guy. Yeah, but I got to get him something, too, so it's going to be even now. Oh. I need to get him his cover for his dollar bill validator for his coin door on his whodunit. Yeah, my whodunit. It's got a hole in it. It's like a glory hole in the front of the game. It was a glory hole, but when we were trying to test a new project out, the pinball suck. The pinball suck? Yeah. Was that the new product? Yeah. It's like a pleasure hole for your pinball machine and you. You can bond more with it. Yeah. Now there's something else you're creating, but it never really – it panned out, but it would just cost too much money, so we didn't bring it into production for my company. But I forgot to put the plate back on. Two years later, I sold Ron the game and forgot to put the plate on. So I'll get his part from him, and he'll get my part from me. And Omai will be swapping parts. And what else did I work on? Eventually, I think next week, I'm going to bring the games back up to the house. Is this the ones you talked about last week? Yes. The Creme de la Creme collection? Yep. Which was, let's see how my memory is here. It was Metallica. Yep, premium. Star Trek. LE. Is Scared Stiff in there? No, it is, yes. Okay, so there's two more. You own them. Oh, I own ACDC? Yep. I own it. No, you don't own any other one. That one you don't own. Oh, okay. Okay, what is it? MMR. Oh, Medieval Madness, okay. Yep, and then I'm going to grab Zach's big game. So if Ron needs any help looking at diagrams I be getting that also because he trying to run his prospector back up and he running out of room in his house Yeah we had a discussion on the prospector where he was like I really don't want to work on this. You want it? It's like, I've never worked on an EM before, ever. Yeah, neither have I. I'd rather get one that actually works, so then when it breaks, it's easier to, if something's working and something goes wrong in it, as opposed to the entire game is a project and nothing works, and then I looked. He was posting pictures of it and how horribly hacked up it is. Yeah. I'm glad I didn't take that offer. Yeah. Let me know when it's working. Octopussy. Octopussy. Octopussy. Sorry. I was going to say that the whole time. But very good. Louis Jourdan. Louis Jourdan. Louis Jourdan. That doesn't work as well, does it? No, not at all. Kind of weird. I'm trying to think. Oh, Fabergé eggs were in that movie. Yes, they were. And the bomb. Oh, and it had that Russian dude. Yes. The Russian dude who was in – General. Always the General. That's always him. Yeah, but he was in Rambo. Yes. He was the main Russian bad guy in Rambo, that much I remember. So he was Russian in both movies. And I think that's all for my repairs. I have to work on Centaur. Well, I was working on Centaur. I did another thing. My ball guides have never worked perfectly. So when plunging the ball, hard plunges work perfectly. Soft plunges would always hit the gate and drop down the side. So when I fixed it so all the plunges worked, when you hit the orbs in order and shot a ball out, it would screw up. So finally, after about two hours of tweaking, I now have all three working. Penis! Moving that ball guide and moving around and twisting and turning and tweaking, but now it's all happy. You're going to have to have like a party just for the Centaur. That thing has been going on for how many years now? A year and a half. Yeah, it's been longer than that. But I have to work on the EOS switches now. Once in a while, when you get a ball, like you try to do like a catch, it does the old weak, and then holds again. So my EOS switches need a little tweaking, little adjustments. All right. And I might change my bats. I'm waiting to hear it now. Oh. Well, wait. What bats did you have in there? Didn't you have like the red translucent like Medusa bats in there that me and Zach said were incorrect? Yes, they are incorrect, but they look better. Touché, hey? Yeah, but you need the black bats back in there. Get the proper bats. Proper bats. I'll have to get the bats. Yep. So that's all my repairs. All right. What was I working on? The sea witch, I was going to say replace. No, I got two more T-nuts. The game, it only had two T-nuts for the head. So you can only put two head bolts in. So the other two T-nuts, they're just missing completely. So I got a couple T-nuts, got them in there. So now the Sea Witch actually is mounted with four screws like it should be. The whodunit, there was a plate like at the bottom of the game that was sitting there. And I finally figured out where it went. It actually is used to mount the ramp. or actually I guess it's not really the ramp but the plastic part when you go up the ramp that the ball the elevator basically it mounts it to the right ramp on the right side and the that's where the plate was supposed to go so I got screws for it got the got that installed so now the thing is actually mounted like it's supposed to be then I had some ROM burning fun I got I got my ROMs. So I started experimenting with some burning. I was going to, I think I said last week, I was going to burn some, yeah, see which Stargazer ROMs. Burn, baby, burn. Maybe burn Disco Inferno. Well, I didn't have a Disco Inferno as the 2716s I got, they require 25 volts and the burner only does 21 volts. So it was just intermittently not burn. So, fail there. So what I did is I took the 2732s. I took the Stargazer ROM and just doubled them so they fit on a 32 and just put four 32s in because the board takes four 2716s. And booted right up. Bruce was actually FaceTiming as we were working on different things. And it came up and works just beachy with the new rule set. That's cool. Enhanced rule set. So that worked okay. Then I got back to the big game. The, I think last week I said how I rebuilt the, I got a new rectifier board and just replaced it. Put that in. Went to boot up and does not get past the second flash. And when looking at the board, CPU board, it's obvious to see why. It is completely corroded to shit. Yeah. major acid damage the entire bottom of the board it also leaked, and the battery had been cut at some point, but it didn't matter the acid had leaked all over the lamp driver board too, ruining that it spewed all over the other board? yeah, the lamp driver board, it ran all the way down the lamp driver board, so you had a whole section that was just all the transistors were green and you just touch them and they just break right off, it's beautiful so, ripped all that out put my all tech boards in and here's here's it gets weird it would not boot unless i had two of the lamp connectors disconnected for the feature lights say what yeah every time i if i had them plugged in it would just go in a permanent like loop over and over and over and over and over so i figure there's it's got to be a short something weird going on but just to confirm i swapped out boards just to see if it wasn't a board issue, and it was not. And I kept screwing around trying to find where this mysterious, well, I would have figured more than one short, being that there's two lamp connectors that I can't plug in because it won't boot. So I ended up just saying, screw it. I took every single feature lamp out of the game, like the actual, just the bulbs. Took every one of them out, and that was like two minutes before we went on the air, and it booted. so obviously we got bad sockets uh i'm going to be replacing all of them anyway but it was nice to see it actually boot so yeah so now i'm at the point where i think i'm ready to rip the play field out and start start getting to work um all the the and one of the previous podcasts i mentioned the horrific flipper wiring hacking that was going on what they did is the left. If you ever play a big game, it has four flippers on the bottom. Two on each side. On the right side, they work fine. The left side was the one they hacked up. When you flip, there's no hold on the bottom flipper. It just flips. The hold voltage is not even connected. So it just flips and goes back down. So is it the coil, or is it something else? Oh, no. It's the way they wired it. It's because the stat switch that flips the other flipper, the double-stack switch that's on. It's on games, like any game with the dual flippers, like Paragon has it, Harlem has it. It broke. Not the nylon piece, but the actual switch contact had broken off. They must have not had one. Their solution was doing all kinds of bizarre wiring to get it to work. I'm just hoping they didn't cut any wire and I can just move stuff back. I have a good wiring diagram to go as a guide, i.e. Zach's big game, which I took pictures of. So I know how it's supposed to look. So I'm going to have to fix that. But all that I can do, I can get the play field out of the game now that I know it boots. All the coils work. Actually, only one switch doesn't work. That's it. Happy with that. The right slingshot is completely busted underneath, so the coil attempts to fire it, but it Doesn't do anything. And I think that's it for my tech work. Octopussy. Octopussy. What were they thinking with that title when you think about that? We're going to name it Octopussy. Really? We can get away with that. That's kind of like if you named a movie like Big Cock and it just had a picture of a rooster on it. Oh my. Which I think they did. I think there is a movie called The Something Cock and it has like a picture of a rooster. I'm not making this up. Our listeners can look at it. I'm not making this up. I can't remember what it's called. It's something like Big Cock or Giant Cock or something like that. Giant Cock and Spiel. There's a band named that, too. Like Big Cock or something. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. So what else we got? Got any stuff on eBay? Nothing. Nothing? Nothing you would buy? Nothing we wouldn't buy? Nothing you would sell? Well, honestly, prices are just getting too wacky. Wacky as in crazy, out of hand, high? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, the Playboy's gone, boys and girls. I'm sorry about that. Oh, the faded Playboy with the most awesome back glass ever? Yes, it is gone. I hate to say it. Oh, that's unfortunate. Bum, bum, ba-dum. Duh! The Royal Flush is still there. Two hours left. No one's been on it. No one's grabbed it. Come on, guys. Raw Flush, guys and gals. The Meteor's down to two grand. That restored one we talked about a couple weeks ago. No one jumped on that. But the Harlem Globetrotters went bye-bye. Somebody picked that up. And the Alien Poker, bye-bye. And the Kiss pinball machine is gone. The one with the blown-out waterlogged head, gone also. Yeah, some Kiss fan probably bought it. This is great. It's Kiss. Kiss. I don't get it. Yeah, I don't get it either. Wait a minute. I thought you were a KISS fan. I am a KISS fan. Now, here's the funny thing. Remember we talked about a couple weeks ago about the 8-ball that was originally $900, and he relisted it for $1,000? Yes. He relisted it again for $1,000, didn't sell, then brought it back down to $750, and it sold right away. Funny how that works, huh? Yeah, funny. And the SIMBAD is still around also, that $500 SIMBAD. a Sinbad. It's in California, so we can maybe grab it while we're out there. Yeah, we'll be grabbing the Sinbad while we're out in California and driving it back. Because that is a game that is worth driving cross-country for. Sinbad. I mean, I like Sinbad. I don't know if it's worth driving cross-country for. I mean, maybe Stars, but not Sinbad. I know, we need a Stars. Well, I have a Stars. No, no, no. We both need Stars. We both need Stars? No, again, I already have one. You need stars. We need stars. Like, I need stars, and I need stars right now. Well, you need a stargazer. I had a lead on a stargazer. Oh, yes, thanks to one of our listeners. Yes, and unfortunately, I sold it. Oh. We're getting back to me. But I have a lead on another one. Ooh. And it's trade bait also, and that's all I'm leaving it at right now. Not giving anybody any hints. The only one I know is on the other side of this microphone. Okay, okay. But I'm hoping this all works out. It'll be a while, so it's not going to be like next week or two you're going to hear me saying, I've got a Stargazer. It might take six to seven months, but I'm going to start working on and getting this. That's my goal. That's the goal. He wants to be in the Stargazer Club, a very exclusive club. Yes, it is. Very proud to be a member, a card-carrying member of the Stargazer Club. Yeah. So, do you want to go to the mail ball bag since we started on that already? Now it's the mail ball bag. I love the mail ball bag. It's a slam bag, the mail ball bag. It's the mail ball bag. Oh, good Lord. It's the hairy, sweaty mail ball bag. The mail ball bag. Oh, my. We have an email from Ryan C. again. Yes, we do. Let's get for more tech help. I might defer this one to you. Yes. He has a Simpsons pinball party. and all of a sudden it is resetting. Mainly on boot up, it will just sit in the power up sequence and reboot a couple of times. But sometimes in the game, during a game as well, it got really bad and someone told me it's the 5-volt and I need to re-pin the machine. Is that the issue? No, you don't have to re-pin the machine. Is re-pinning just reflowing the pins on the board or is it replacing the cable socket altogether? First, I would re-seat all your connectors first and see if it goes away. See if that does it for you first, of course. Second thing is you want to get a voltmeter and actually hook it up to your 5 volts and see if it actually is dropping below, I think on a white star, it's 4.94 for the watchdog to kick in. 493, 494. If it's dropping below that, it could be something drawing down the 5 volts or just the bridge rectifier is bad. How do I test the 5 volts? Well, you get a voltmeter. Yeah. And you put the red lead on the five volts, and you put the black lead on the current, on the ground, and you actually run the machine and see what it does. Is it labeled? With the volt meter? Yes, it is, actually. And the volt meter is set for volts DC. Probably 20 you'll have to set it for on most volt meters unless it's an auto-searching one. And you want to play the game and see if it drops down below. And what it starts out with before, you know, when it first boots up, but it could be a couple things running it down. you could reflow to solder on some of the connectors you know it's a lot of connectors on a white star board or a power board if you don't feel so confident maybe you truly want to get the board sent out to one of the guys like Borgard he's really good with boards what is Borgard special wind lit sounds familiar yeah we probably should know these things being on a pinball podcast and all yeah you would think but Other things I would also consider, you say all of a sudden, did anything change power-wise, like in your house or where you're doing this? Do you have a lot of things on that circuit Yep individual circuit no extension cords Yeah you could test the circuit itself Maybe that low If you happen to have any other White Star games maybe just swap the board see if it goes away. It's just a power board. I agree. Just basic, basic things I can think of. Yep. And you can also go to PinWiki. There's a couple things on the White Star board, but not much. Also, you can send your board out to Clive down in South Carolina or a couple other techs out there, you know, board guys. I can check it out and just be shipping the board back to them. They test it for a fee and then go from there. Coin up cauldron would be Clyde. Yep. Make sure first your voltage is good. Re-seat all your connectors. Make sure you don't miss a pin when you re-seat them. Oh, and word of advice for classic stern owners, as I found out, on the sound board where it hooks to the CPU board on the top, it's very easy to be one pin off, as I found out. Oh, my. Because there's two connectors, and literally they are right next to each other. And it's easy to get the one a little bit off. All right, how about you do the next one? Well, I'm actually going to make a comment. One of our fans commented when we talked about Transformers on episode 32. Todd Roche, who actually runs the Knox Rochester Tournament Games for the Selfie League, said, Holy cow, such hate for Transformers. Where does this rank in the levels of suck? Now, there's two different versions. Yes. The Pro doesn't rank as bad. The Pro, I'd say, is like 16, 17 of suck. The LE is very high in the level of suck. That's like 23, 22, I'd say. Do you agree with that one? I'll give you that one. Okay. I mean, it has some cool playfield features, but the LE has the stupid, it's like a mini path of adventure from Indiana Jones and you just try to time the ball bouncing it back and forth and it just it kills Octopussy Indy get that octopussy away from me Octopussy is very dangerous you go first Indy what was I talking about the yeah the stupid ding ding ding ding ding and it makes like the EM sounds It's like, okay. But, yeah, in the rule set, you want to talk about a just grind it out type game. Block, cock block on Decepticons. Just terrible. The rule set really does kill that, too. Aye, aye, aye. Aye, aye, aye. Okay, so our next one is from Jason from New Jersey. It says, hello, Bruce and Ron. See how he puts my name first? Yeah, see? See this bitch? It's Ron and Bruce. Get it right. Nope. I understand the love-hate people have for Gottliebs, but I currently owe three. God bless you. Black Hole, Haunted House, and just recently a Monte Carlo with the one million shot. I think it's a ten million shot. I forget what the shot is. He's probably reeling in it right now. No, it's this. The backlash and the theme on many are terrible, which I will totally agree. Will you agree with that, Ron? Yes. the photo real the photo back glasses are terrible now here's where we change a little bit on between jason's theme but got leaves has made had made some really good machines not buying it i i consider them to be the rc cola pinball machines yes it's soda but it's not coke or pepsi i like rc by the way i actually do like rc better than pepsi actually so i have to change your order around, but I agree. We own a pro photo printer, and before I even diagnosed the non-working machine we bought, we got rid of the back glass, we printed the skyline of the Monte Carlo Motel, prices of God Leaves are good and still compelling compared to others. That I'll agree with because nobody wants them. I agree with his next line, no, I will always play them and give them a chance. I always give them a chance. Bruce is just like, he just says This is unnatural hatred. Black Hole is my favorite. It's a challenge to get the ball going. Yeah, it's a challenge. All right. Hey, look, I didn't get all these drop targets. Oh, I get to watch my balls rain with me not being able to do anything. Exactly. Yeah, you know, can you ever think of a lower play field level that's as good as Black Hole? I like the ECDC one. I like Elektra. Yeah, I like Elektra too. I mean, Elektra almost dwarfs all the other rules in the game. You just got to get your electric units up to get all the real points around that play field. Lebowski's can be improved, he thinks. Anything else besides that? I actually think Haunted House is better than Black Holes. Let's see. Oh, ACDC's wasted space and the only benefit to premium is no Bon Scott's hideous face. Okay, it's not Bon Scott's face. It was Angus Young's face. And Bon Scott isn't on the game. Yes, Bon Scott isn't even on the game at all, other than the songs. Black Hole is great unless you light the gate then you lose your ball which we've complained about it's not decent, it's well started but when you do it's great, looking forward to all your podcasts and thank you, well you're from Jersey so Jason I'll give you a buy on most of your stuff, and he showed us a picture of his Monte Carlo yes Monte Carlo, looks better with that but terrible game you don't like it? no god no, it's gotta be Trudeau, no it's just terrible game, if it's mid to late 80s. I believe it has to be him. He designed like every game. It looks alright. It's pretty neat. I see. The thing about this era of Gottlieb that always bothered me, and this could be more of a playing it at shows and maybe a low power condition, have these really steep ramps like Ghostbusters. But unlike Ghostbusters, I can always hit that one. These steep ramps on these Gottliebs, I'll go to shows, I can never hit these things. You will hit it dead center and it just will not make it up there, and it gets so frustrating. I agree. That was always one of my issues with them. Next one, I know you skipped over one. I did? Yes, you did. What did I skip over? This guy named Scott. Oh, that was a little bit. No, but we didn't go over it the week before, so it was actually the day we, you know, he said this guest last week was long-winded and I agree with him 100% on all those opinions. There you go. Of course he does. I think he posted that right after we recorded. Yes, yes. And Scott gave me something that's fun and new for all of us. Very good. I love it. One of my favorite sounds. One more time, baby. Just the sound that personifies complete and total failure. Yes, and we're used to it, so we love it. Thank you, Scott. so you get the next one another one from Ryan C I love the spelling of favorite because we're the only America's the only one who spells it the way we do it's everywhere else they spell it F-A-V-O-U-R-I-T-E yes probably the correct way good day lads what's your favorite video mode and what is your worst here's our best save the children on what's MM, that medieval madness? Madness. Okay, save the children of medieval madness with tunnel escape on R.J. being a close second. Worst, there are so many offenders, but ooh, America's Most Haunted has a little floppy bird clone which is super annoying and yields such little points. I have to agree with him on that one, but there is one worse. Okay, and what one is worse? Game of Thrones. That stupid fight scene where you're fighting a guy and you get nothing for it, really. Your points are so ridiculously low on it. Alright, let me do worse because they're easier because most video modes suck. Star Trek Next Gen. Just memorize the pattern and it's done. If they made it a different pattern, it would have been better. See Indiana Jones Pinball Adventure for changing patterns. Yes. Also, Getaway. By default, By default, it's worth more than the jackpot. Yes, I agree. It's just stupid. And if you know where to, you can just put the car there and half the time you don't even have to move. If you know where to put it. What other ones do I hate? There's a lot of, well, one I don't like that a lot of people do like is the stupid Johnny Mnemonic one. I can never get the four buttons down. Fuck you. Snarf, snarf, snarf, snarf. I can never get that down. I think that's more my lack of skill. AFM, I really don't like either. That's all right. Nah, really don't like that one. Ghostbusters, the guessing the thing. I hate that. Yeah, cross extremes. I don't want to. I don't think I ever even got that in the time I had it set up. As far as good ones? I have three. I have two. Okay. Basically, Dracula. I actually have four. Sorry, four. Dracula. Dracula. Yes. And I love the Fishtails one. Yes, Fishtails. I just love hitting the guy on the speeder. Yeah, the car bell. Three, for me, has to be... What was it? It just went on my freaking head. Holy crap. What the hell, boy? I don't know, damn it. Hey, Sharding. Oh, Shadow. Shadow. Okay, the pluribus. Yep, dodging the pluribus. And what was number four? I had it in my head, and then I freaking just lost it. What was one and two? Same as yours. Oh, okay. Uh, probably a Black Rose one. No, no. No. No, those are pretty basic. Trying to think what the fourth one was. Uh, oh, it's actually underrated because it was only out in two revisions of ROMs. Family Guy beating up the chicken. Oh, were they? Okay, before they made it into a mode. Yes. Okay. Interesting. That was actually kind of fun, I thought. All right. That's my four. I'll give you that one. yeah so those are our video modes and do it do we do we think there needs to be video modes in games yes you do i say i don't i could care a lot i couldn't care less oh come on hitting fish tails is so much fucking fun yes it is hitting the werewolves where it takes skill because the closer they get to you the more points you get great challenge they did use the same concept in Walking Dead for an actual mode where the dead are coming at you just like the wolves and you have to hit them before they get you. Purbas, another good one. The higher up you get, the more points you get and the more challenges you try to get by getting the points. Another great video mode. And you can, what, pull the trigger to take a bunch of them out at once or something. Yeah, little secrets there. Good games had by all. because williams rules they made the greatest games ever and then i think that's all of our ball bag let me check one other place let me check with my ball bag that's for sure let's check underneath my ball bag oh well it's a little crusty there oh yeah i think that's it on that so game you like game you hate we haven't done in a couple weeks so we're going back to it All right. I'm going to use a loophole. Even though I own it, but I haven't played it, so it doesn't count. Okay, so I go first then, right? I go first. Big game. Damn you, because I said the same thing. Big game for me, too. Big game I like. Game I hate? We would say wide. Oh, big game? Wide body. Wide body that plays fast is a regular game. Typical Stern. Just because it's a wide body doesn't mean it plays any less fast. yeah two spinners the resets of uh three drop targets the bingo cards trying to complete the bingo cards each flipper is designed for a specific bank that's why they're there they're actually there for a reason even though it's tough to get used to them sometimes yeah i'm just um harry williams awesomeness once again a good sound a bad background sound as i found out because i yeah i turned it on on mine and listened to it like yeah yeah that's going off that that's kind of annoying. Good artwork, even though my back glass is completely trashed, but it's still I always liked the jungle theme. I like Frontier too, so it's about animals and that stuff. Although I don't really like Jungle Lord, so I guess it doesn't always go that way. Yeah, I don't like the Pachinko Ball in Jungle Lord, but it's good shots. Game you hate. Waterworld. I don't even remember why. I remember playing it and then thinking, wow, this sucks. Shoot the Ds. Shoot the Ds. I think I only played it like once and just didn't. Maybe I need. See, I shouldn't say that. I usually like to play games more than once to say they suck. Who knows? Maybe I played a poor playing Waterworld. Maybe there's an awesome playing Waterworld. I played it a ton at the tournament, and I actually got the high score for the selfie leagues. What does that tell you? That you like Waterworld. No, I just need to get a good score on it. Bad game. My hated game. I'm going to shock you now, Ron. Uh-oh. at WPC. Oh. Okay. But that's impossible. They're all great except Popeye. Nope. And Gilligan's Island. Nope. It's not one of those. Not one of those. Oh my. Okay, what is it? The last of the roller coaster games done by Williams. Hurricane. Terrible. Really? I like the ramp idea where they did for like the roller coaster tycoon ramp you know before you know roller coaster tycoon you know but come on what what's the problem there's no fun it's not a fun pin it really isn't you know what it's good for it's good for boards and that's what honestly back in the day back in the late 90s early 2000s the reason why you bought a hurricane was for the board set you can pick up a hurricane for six to seven hundred dollars but you got a full wpc board set and extra coils and parts and back in the day you would buy an nba fast break to get your boards for your medieval madness yep for your wpc 95s yeah i think an nba fast break and probably congos also got pillaged before people realized how awesome Congo was Trying to read my notes here We have notes? I have notes. We have a format? Oh, I saw a book live, actually, for the first time. I actually read a book now. Wait, wait, wait. Before you saw a book live, what does that mean? A book came out on stage? No, no. I saw a book in a comic book store, but it was a book about Atari art. The art of Atari. All right. So they have all the artwork from Pong all the way up, including the pinball machines, including the arcade games, and also including these 2600 and 400, 800 home computer artwork that you just hand draw everything on. You mean the artwork for the Atari games that made it look like the most awesome thing ever? Yes. And then you would actually play the game and it doesn't look anything like that? Yes. Okay. Totally agree. There's a book out, a hardcover book. I grabbed it. It was incredible. Art of Atari. I highly recommend it for anybody who gets a chance to grab it. So it's called Art of Atari. Yep. All right, let me look this up here. Art of Atari. Scintillating as we search the internet. Art of Atari. Tim Lopatino. Oh, yes, I like the cover. Cover's great with Missile Command on it. Yeah. And a couple of – but really, I was really impressed with this book, and I got it for cheap. Yeah, 87 customer reviews, four and a half out of five stars. Yep. Number one bestseller in digital art. Good coffee table book. Yeah, it's – looks like $20. Yep. Or 20 bucks. Yeah. So definitely grab it if you get to see one or if you want to order it. definitely a great book. I thought it was, you know, for everyone who likes, you know, think about it. We all grew up on Atari. We all grew up on 2600. Or if you didn't grow up on it, you played one for a few minutes and laughed at it. But the artwork was incredible. So definitely nice book, good artwork, and it has pinball in it. Oh, what is it? Oh, they're wonderful pinball games. Yes, but they had cool artwork. Okay. Even Superman. Superman. Superman was okay. Hercules is great. Hercules is good. But, like, I guess if you just go on pure artwork, it's okay. Yeah. It's actually better than some of the Gottlieb stuff that ever came out. Oh, what did I say that out loud? Oh, man. You have just unhealthy Gottlieb hate. I have great Gottlieb hate. Except if it's lights, camera, action. Of course. Which, God, you can never find one without play field wear on it. Yes, folks, you know, Bruce actually owned Lights, Camera, Action. So he has actually owned, Jesus Christ, he has actually owned a System 3 game. Yes, I have. Enjoyed it very much until I had to work on it. Is that why you sold it? It was too much of a pain to work on? Yes. Wow. So needless to say, I did get my vacation days for Allentown, and I got my vacation days for Pinburg all set up. Excellent. Excellent. Ready to win, Pinburgh? Yeah, okay. Be a division. It can happen. Yeah, okay. Just, you know, with that kind of attitude, you're never going to win. You have to believe. I'm going to pray or nothing. You have to believe. Oh, well, that's just dumb. Of course it is, but you've got to be in it to win it. Yeah, okay. So, I think I'm done with the news and notes and all the fun stuff. Oh, we got the game we hate? Yeah, nothing on eBay. We've gone over that. I've got to do more work. This fucking sucks. Yeah, I might have to edit this part out. Why? I'm just being truthful to the fans here. We need more emails. We want – actually, I'm going to put out a personal request. We have one person who's going to meet us out in California, maybe two now. We want to meet more of you people out there. We want to talk to you. We want to play pinball with you. We do? We want to see if you can beat us. Oh, man. The challenge is not put out. Oh, we're going to challenge people? Oh, man. If you beat us, I get to put your name up in lights on our Facebook page. But if we beat you, we get to put – we beat you on our Facebook page. And you can talk about it either way. If you beat us, I'm going to talk about it. Maybe we should talk over the terms a little more. Best of five games. Best of five games. Okay. Games. Well, how does this work? If this is partners, what happens? No, no, no. It'll just be they can choose who they want to beat. Oh, they can choose who they want to beat. Yeah. Well, that doesn't sound very confident. For you, maybe not. They can choose who they want to lose to is what you meant to say. Exactly. Or win. Or win. Maybe they're a world-class player. Brian Raymond comes up to us and says, I want to play you, Ron. What are you going to do? Okay. Who? Who comes up to us? Who is the one? Raymond Davidson. Davidson. Brian Raymond. I don't know who that is. I think that's a mythical character we've just made up. It is. But what if he comes up to you and says, I want to play you? Besides you peeing in your pants, what are you going to do then? I don't have a problem with that. I said, sure, as long as I get to pick the game. Here, come over to Harlem Globetrotters. Come over to Stars. Let's play. Oh, Stars would be great. I'll play anyone. I don't care. Now, if he says, like, I want to play you, a Game of Thrones. Like, no. No, thanks. Check, please. Check, please. Take your victory. Yes, take your victory lap. Just take your victory lap. I will concede before a single ball is played. There you go. But I'm putting the challenge out. Putting the challenge out. Yes, we're going to be at Arcade Expo. We challenge you, the listeners, to take us on in a game of pinball. One of our league members, Western New York, Robert Forbes, might be in California that weekend also. So hopefully he gets to meet us out there. You know it's going to happen. They'll challenge you, and they'll just keep picking Gottlieb's System 3 games. I can play them. Who just said they got the high score on Waterworld? Yeah, but you won't have any fun doing it, because you'll be playing a System 3 Gottlieb game. No, because I'll still beat them. It's always fun there. All right. See? So I have no problems. So the gauntlet has been thrown down. We're ready to play against you. It's like Ghostbusters. We're not ready to believe you. We're ready to play against you. Unfortunately, there's a new tournament coming out, possibly the Buffalo Open, the original Buffalo Open that Nick has at his house. Did you say fortunately or unfortunately? Unfortunately. Why is that? Because it's the same day as Western New York finals. So eight of the good players out of Western New York, at least, are not going to be in it, and possibly up to 20 players. so I can see Canadians coming down and wrecking havoc again oh wreaking havoc so Canadians win a lot in Buffalo is what you're saying yes they do but you know I have we have the Western New York League and unfortunately I'm not going to make the finals in Buffalo League either last month I missed it for something and I'm missing it this month for Arcade Expo You can only miss one per four weeks, so I cannot make the finals. Oh, that's a shame. It's impossible. It is impossible for you to make that. Well, it's not impossible, but a lot of people have to drop a lot of points, and it's impossible. Impossible, Mr. Bond. Impossible. So the first time I will not be in the Buffalo pinball finals, but at least the last league night, number eight, will be at my house. Hey, maybe I can even host finals. At least you got leagues. Yes, we do. You got something to play in. I got shit. Maybe we can even host finals at my house. Nick, we can host the final at my house since I'm not going to be in it. Wink, wink, hint, hint. But, yeah, good time had by all. So is that the segue into our upcoming shows? Yep. Okay. Mr. Keeler's having an Aerosmith launch party on the 18th. There, I'll play some Aerosmith Pro at Rock Fantasy. Yep. We will not be there, unfortunately. Neither of us. Yeah, I'll be at Arcade Expo. Yep. Playing, hopefully, Aerosmith out there. Hopefully. In Syracuse, there's a couple of things going on, as always. This weekend is the Central New York Pinball Location League Finals for January and February. I made it by only doing one month out of the two. Instead of playing six games, I only played three games, which I qualify because it's only half. And I barely made it in, and 12th out of the 12th qualifier. 12 qualifiers, I made number 12. He's that damn good. Misses half of it and still makes it. Yes. Not that good, just lucky. So let's go to their dates right now. They have a couple things going on, and the Syracuse Pinheads are having their tournament on March your way to pinball. March 23rd, Thursday, 430 to 830. March Your Way to Pinball. Okay. I like that name. Oh, and I lost this weekend also. I lost twice. I lost in the Knox tournament. I got fourth. And unfortunately, I was blinded by the sun. We actually had sun once in the blue moon in Rochester, and I realize now I cannot play with direct sunlight in my eyes. Wussy. Come on. You'll never make it in a pinball expo, that's for sure. Well, the sun's behind me. That's fine. This was actually in my eyes. And I realized that I actually had a headache for two days straight after doing that. My headache is finally gone this morning. Did you have your old man glasses on or not? I had sunglasses on all day yesterday, though. The 18th is March your way to pinball. And Central New York pinball has a thing going on. monthly pinball tournament at Al's Wine and Whiskey. And then this weekend, actually, it's in Buffalo. There is the CBW Pinball Weekend, which is by Community Beer Works. It's a beer brewing company out in Buffalo. They are going to have, on Thursday, they're releasing their Rage Tilt APA, an easy-drinking 5.5 ABV American Pale Ale. Rage Tilt. Yep, Rage Tilt. Rage Tilt, okay. Yes. I think they're trying to infringe on us, but that's good that they do. They're doing a live stream with the bros at Terminator 2. Wait a minute, they're live streaming with the bros and Terminator 2? I'm Terminator 2. Arnold Schwarzenegger is... I'm Terminator 2. Oh, okay, okay. And on Saturday, they're holding their first ever CBW charity pinball tournament, which is a dollar donation to the pinball EDU charity. We'll get you one registration, and you'll get prizes, giveaways, and check it all out. It's for a good cause. And you're even going to have a chance to win a pinball machine. Which is always good. Yeah. Also, a food truck outside. And the event is going to be from 12 p.m. to 8 p.m. All right. So, let's see. Upcoming events in my area. Nothing. Uh, perhaps a, uh, a, uh, dialed in launch party whenever that comes out. I hope so. Uh, I, I don't have anything. Hopefully, since I'll have more games up here, maybe I'll have a tournament. Maybe. We'll see. Oh, and, uh, the carpet's going in next week too, so. I can't wait. I can't wait for your timeline tournament. Exciting. All timeline, all the time. I'm just going to give it away. Just give it away. The winner gets timeline. and they refuse the prize. I'm trying to think. Is that a system 80? Yeah, 80A, I think it is. Oh, okay. And Pocketeer is showing pictures of their Aerosmith. Premium or Pro? Pro. Premium's not coming out for a couple more weeks at least. At least. That's game 46 for them. Game 40. Oh, I thought you meant for Stern. Like they have 46 games. They have 46 games. 46 games. Damn. That's a lot of damn games. That is a lot of damn games. Buffalo was spoiled. See, you need to come out once in a while. That's too cold. Yeah, we got a week and a half, Ron. Until California. Yes, next week will be the preview edition. Yes. And then the week after will be the post edition so we can do two shows on the same subject. You got it. You got it. anything you want you got it anything you need octopussy you got it so bruce what can you tell me about pinball lifters pinball lifters www.pinballlifter.com we have your lifting and wheel kit and your moving knees use your brain not your back this has been episode Has it? It has. It has. Good. What's the name of the episode again? Number 34, Octopussy. What's it called again? Octopussy. Okay. You have been listening to episode 34, Octopussy. We are the Slam Tilt Podcast. We can be reached at our email address, slamtiltpodcast at gmail.com. Check us out on Facebook. Just search for slamtiltpodcast.com. and our YouTube channel. Just search for SlamTiltPodcast.com. See a pattern. And our Twitch channel, hopefully will be used someday, at just search for SlamTiltPodcast. Say goodbye, Bruce. Goodbye, Penny Epstein. you