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Avatar leak analysis and deep dive on John Wick's FPS design philosophy.
Avatar image appears to be a professional pre-production photo, likely intentionally released rather than a leak
high confidence · Both hosts note the photo quality is professional, captured with glass off, dropped during Stern's Jaws livestream, and includes names of game contributors
Avatar is expected to feature content from both the first two Avatar films based on visible mode lights in the photo
medium confidence · Enzo: 'looking at this and decoding what we saw on the little insert mode lights it looks like it's going to be content from the first two movies at least'
JJP is positioning itself as a luxury spectacle brand for high-end home collectors rather than commercial operators
high confidence · Extended discussion about Avatar/Elton John/Godfather as statement pieces for well-appointed game rooms vs. 10-pin location lineups; estimated $15,000-$17,000 price point discussed
John Wick is designed as a first-person shooter pinball experience where flippers represent guns and gameplay mirrors FPS mechanics
high confidence · Enzo: 'the game is designed with the idea that you play as John Wick, your flippers are the guns, right, and you're in a first-person shooter... it is fast, and in a battle with guns... This feels like it'
John Wick Pro editions are significantly handicapped compared to LE versions, lacking expression lights, backbox lights, and shaker motor integration
high confidence · Don: 'walk up to a John Wick Pro, and you don't have expression lights. You don't have the back box lights. You don't have shaker motor integration with the gunshots on the screen'
Venom experienced similar Pro vs. LE perception problem as John Wick, with LE adoption following poor Pro reception
high confidence · Enzo: 'I played Venom Pro when it came out, and I absolutely hated it... And then my local cafe in town got a Venom LE... I went back for weeks and weeks'
Jaws is now surpassing Godzilla as Stern's best LE game and high-water mark
medium confidence · Don: 'I want Jaws to be, like, the new high-water mark to reach for. You know, it was Godzilla. Now I think with these new modes and the integration that they've done, I think Jaws is probably surpassing Godzilla'
“It's a professional photo and it happens to capture the name of the couple of the guys that have worked on the game as well, by the looks of it.”
Enzo @ early — Establishes leak credibility and suggests intentional release rather than accidental
“Being Jersey Jack, it's going to be a gorgeous game. I mean, look at Elton John.”
Enzo @ mid — Establishes expectation for Avatar's visual polish based on JJP track record
“The game is designed with the idea that you play as John Wick, your flippers are the guns, right, and you're in a first-person shooter.”
Enzo @ late-mid — Core insight reframing John Wick's design philosophy and explaining tight shot layout/fast gameplay
“I think this game has a lot of potential to really become something, you know, once we get closer to that 1.0 code. Because right now the modes are just colored lights.”
Don @ late-mid — Positions John Wick as incomplete but promising, contrasts with negative initial reception
“Walk up to a John Wick Pro, and you don't have expression lights. You don't have the back box lights. You don't have shaker motor integration with the gunshots on the screen. That has a little bit more ramp lock.”
Don @ late-mid — Explains systematic feature disadvantage in Pro tier that creates false negative impression
“I want Jaws to be, like, the new high-water mark to reach for. You know, it was Godzilla. Now I think with these new modes and the integration that they've done, I think Jaws is probably surpassing Godzilla.”
Don @ late — Establishes Jaws as benchmark for modern Stern LE quality and code update trajectory
“Stern is a business... they want to inflate their books... Stern is there to make money and to make a lot of money. And their games just won't have the better rubbers and the better this and the better that because they're churning and burning.”
Don @ late — Defends Stern's Costco strategy as legitimate business expansion vs. hobby community gatekeeping
business_signal: Stern's Costco distribution strategy defended as legitimate market expansion targeting new audiences rather than inventory dumping
medium · Don's analytical defense: 'Even 1% growth... 20,000 people have just walked past a pinball machine'; acknowledges margin/brand implications
community_signal: Perth Pinball Collective event (34 machines, 3 days) designed to address John Wick design misconceptions and build community engagement
medium · Enzo organized event addressing John Wick difficulty feedback; FPS design philosophy explanation followed from community event discussion
competitive_signal: John Wick reframed as first-person shooter pinball rather than traditional pinball; fast tight shots, aggressive ball returns mirror FPS gameplay tempo
high · Enzo's detailed explanation of design intent; Don's realization ('I need to play it again now with that in mind'); correlates tight shot layout with combat dynamics
competitive_signal: Jaws positioned as new Stern LE quality benchmark surpassing Godzilla through code updates and integration improvements
high · Don and Enzo both assert Jaws now best Stern LE; attributed to recent code updates; strong operator/collector reception
design_philosophy: JJP explicitly positioning Avatar/Elton John/Godfather as luxury spectacle pieces for high-end home collectors vs. commercial/operator lineups
high · Extended discussion of $15-17k price point justification; positioning as 'piece of artwork you can play pinball on'; furniture/decor analogy
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Stern's Costco strategy aims to reach new audiences who may not know pinball exists rather than selling excess inventory
medium confidence · Don: 'At the end of the day, Stern is a business... they want to inflate their books... Stern is there to make money and to make a lot of money'
JJP has at least three games in advanced production stages and can juggle release order strategically
medium confidence · Don speculates: 'J.J.P. could have two or three games pretty far into production to the point that they may, you know, kind of juggle, like, which release'
Avatar announcement coincides with James Cameron's new Avatar films coming out at Christmas 2025 with fire/elements theme
medium confidence · Enzo: 'They're doing the whole Avatar Last Airbender thing Where they're doing different elements' and 'the new movies coming out soon... That's due Christmas'
“I think they're positioning themselves as, like, a point of difference in the industry... imagine going downstairs and like here's a avatar right... it just becomes like a spectacle unto itself.”
Enzo @ mid — Articulates JJP's luxury collector positioning vs. Stern's volume/location strategy
“James Bond came out and everyone hated it. Everyone hated it, and Stern's best game is James Bond. To today, in my opinion, Stern's best game is James Bond.”
Don @ late-mid — Parallels John Wick with James Bond cold reception but eventual code-driven recovery
“Even if they don't sell any machines, right, 20,000 people have just walked past a pinball machine, how to play with it and have now realized that that's pretty fun.”
Don @ late — Market expansion argument: Costco drives awareness/adoption even if physical sales disappoint
licensing_signal: Avatar game includes content from both films based on visible mode lights in leaked photo; new Avatar films releasing Christmas 2025
medium · Enzo decoded mode lights; timing coincides with Avatar 4 Christmas release and elements/fire theme
market_signal: Manufacturers shifting to dribs-and-drabs content marketing (Alice snippets, Avatar photo tease) to sustain attention vs. one-time reveals
medium · Discussion of Alice getting regular content drops; Avatar drop timing during competing livestream; speculated forced adoption after Stern leaks
community_signal: JJP operations include intentional trickling of design reveal content and strategic timing of announcements to maintain attention/hype
medium · Avatar drop during Stern livestream; Alice regular updates; hosts speculate about coordination with licensing windows and operator budget cycles
announcement: Avatar professional photograph released during Stern Jaws livestream; appears intentional leak/teaser rather than accident
high · Professional photo quality, glass-off close-up, captured contributor names, dropped at strategic time; hosts interpret as purposeful marketing
product_strategy: X-Men Stern game possibly pulled forward or delayed in relation to Deadpool/Wolverine film release; unclear current timeline
medium · Enzo: 'if X-Men was meant to be the next one, should it not have probably been aligned closer to the release of the film?'; Don mentions previous month release talk
product_concern: Stern's deliberate Pro tier feature limitation (no expression lights, shaker integration, backbox lights) creates systematic negative impression vs. LE/Premium
high · Both hosts detail specific feature gaps; Don experiences direct comparison playing Pro in location; pattern established across John Wick, Venom, Jaws
sentiment_shift: John Wick experiencing code-driven perception reversal similar to James Bond; initially poor reception improving with updates
high · Don: 'it came out just devoid of really any meaningful code... through the last few code updates... this game has a lot of potential'; James Bond parallel established