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Final Round Ep 30: Eric Meunier discusses GNR's pandemic delay, design philosophy, and JJP's future.
Guns N' Roses was ready to launch at TPF in March 2020 with 12-14 fully-built prototypes before COVID-19 hit
high confidence · Eric Meunier directly stated this in the interview; collector edition cards signed by Slash are dated 2019 as evidence
Jersey Jack Pinball moved its factory from Lakewood, New Jersey to Elk Grove Village, Illinois in February 2020
high confidence · Eric stated he was told on February 14th, 2020 of the factory move; he was directly involved in the transition
The Wizard of Oz had a higher bill of material cost than Guns N' Roses
high confidence · Eric directly compared the two games' BOM costs when asked if GNR had the highest BOM for JJP
Jersey Jack had to implement a price increase primarily due to bill of material cost increases from January 2020 to October 2020
high confidence · Eric explicitly stated the price increase was necessary and attributed the 'lion's share' to BOM increases during this period
Guns N' Roses playfield map has 53 lights representing over 199 concert locations the band played through 2018
high confidence · Eric detailed the process of creating the map using Excel and a custom map point generator to fit venue locations
Guns N' Roses is currently backordered by several thousand units
high confidence · Eric stated 'we're backlogged several thousand Guns N' Roses' when discussing production pipeline capacity
Pirates of the Caribbean has sold at confirmed prices of $30,000+ for collector's editions on the secondary market
high confidence · Both hosts cited confirmed secondary market sales data for Pirates LE editions
Pirates of the Caribbean required more man-hours to build than any other JJP game
high confidence · Eric directly compared manufacturing effort and costs between Pirates and other JJP titles
“I never let go of any aspect of my game. Like, literally every single detail. I am just like, I have my claws in it, and I refuse to.”
Eric Meunier@ 11:31 — Reveals Eric's hands-on design philosophy and total creative control approach, including signing under plot bumpers
“Keith's rules are the reason that I got into pinball. I mean, playing Lord of the Rings, it's the first game I played, and I understood that pinball could be more than just keep the ball alive.”
Eric Meunier@ 14:52 — Explains Eric's respect for Keith Elwin's rules design and the formative influence of LOTR on his entry into pinball
“I refuse to take the easy path. I refuse to just say that's good enough, much to the chagrin of the people who manage at Jersey Jack Pinball.”
Eric Meunier@ 21:29 — Core statement of Eric's design philosophy—pushing boundaries and challenging established conventions despite management friction
“Like what? Well, like messing with the apron. You know, like I got pushed back internally on putting that ball lock under the apron, and I just asked why.”
Eric Meunier@ 21:55 — Exemplifies Eric's willingness to challenge established pinball design dogma (e.g., modifying traditional playfield elements)
“No, I don't know it's going to work. Well, that's what I'm trying to work out. Like, let's face it. New designer, right? You're now designing new machines. You're getting funky with aprons.”
Eric Meunier@ 23:16 — Admits uncertainty about novel design ideas while maintaining commitment to iterative problem-solving
“It's somewhere in between. I mean, there's no reason that we entered contract negotiations to do that, to see if it's possible.”
Eric Meunier@ 27:37 — Confirms JJP is actively exploring Pirates of the Caribbean remake feasibility; indicates ongoing licensing negotiations
product_launch: Guns N' Roses originally planned for March 2020 TPF launch with 12-14 prototypes ready; delayed due to COVID-19 and factory relocation
high · Eric: 'It was ready to launch. Where were you going to launch it? I wanted to launch it at Texas' and 'it had to be 2020. It had to be March 2020'
manufacturing_signal: Jersey Jack relocated factory from Lakewood, NJ to Elk Grove Village, IL in February 2020; required institutional knowledge rebuilding and infrastructure redesign
high · Eric: 'I was told on February 14th of 2020 that we were going to move the factory to Elk Grove' and discussion of lost institutional knowledge from veteran NJ workers
supply_chain_signal: Bill of material costs increased significantly from January 2020 to October 2020 due to COVID-19 tariffs and inflation; drove JJP price increase
high · Eric: 'the COVID prices just shot everything up through the roof' and 'the lion's share of that was because of how much the bill of material price went up'
design_innovation: GNR features custom lit-up polycarbonate spinners with counterweighting (developed in 2014 prototype), modified apron ball lock, and moving spotlights using servo motors
high · Eric detailed spinner development: 'I had the working prototype on my desk...I wired up an Arduino. I hooked it up to an RGB and an opto' and discussion of apron modifications and moving spotlight design
design_philosophy: Eric rejects established pinball conventions and asks 'why' rather than accepting status quo; willing to experiment with novel approaches despite internal pushback
positive(0.78)— Eric is reflective and proud of GNR's achievements (Game of the Year nomination), though candid about manufacturing challenges and constraints. Hosts are enthusiastic and congratulatory. Some frustration expressed regarding design compromise (Pirates wide-body infrastructure) and secondary market speculation, but overall tone is collaborative and celebratory.
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“When you look at the cost to build and the cost to buy for the build material, it's all significantly higher than something like Guns N' Roses, for example.”
Eric Meunier@ 28:07 — Quantifies production cost difference between Pirates (wide-body) and GNR (standard body)
“right now, the way our factory is designed and built, it's built around standard body games. So all of our rotisseries, all of our cabinet holders, all of our packing material, Everything's built around standard edition games.”
Eric Meunier@ 29:08 — Reveals significant infrastructure constraints limiting JJP's ability to return to wide-body production without major retooling
high · Eric: 'I refuse to take the easy path. I refuse to just say that's good enough' and multiple examples of challenging established design norms
code_update: Power Chord edition received code update adding multiplier effect to Duff base ramp shot; driven by in-office collaborative playtesting
high · Eric: 'when Joe and Keith were playing in the office a couple weeks ago, they had this idea' and 'adding this multiplier effect for shooting duff, making that shot more interesting'
competitive_signal: Guns N' Roses nominated for multiple Twippe Awards including Game of the Year; final videos submitted for virtual award ceremony
high · Eric discussed preparing acceptance video for 'potential game of the year' and other team member thank-you videos for respective award categories
licensing_signal: Jersey Jack actively exploring Pirates of the Caribbean remake viability; in contract negotiations to assess Johnny Depp licensing and production feasibility
high · Eric: 'there's no reason that we entered contract negotiations to do that, to see if it's possible' and discussion of licensing and infrastructure constraints
manufacturing_signal: JJP factory currently optimized for standard-body production; returning to wide-body production (e.g., Pirates) would require significant rotisserie and packing material retooling
high · Eric: 'our factory is designed and built, it's built around standard body games...All of our rotisseries, all of our cabinet holders...Everything's built around standard edition games'
product_strategy: GNR is backordered by several thousand units; production pipeline prioritizes completing existing commitments before new wide-body production
high · Eric: 'we're backlogged several thousand Guns N' Roses, and then, you know, there's another game in the pipeline and another game after that'
market_signal: Pirates of the Caribbean collector editions confirmed selling for $30,000+ on secondary market; high FOMO and rarity driving prices
high · Hosts: 'confirmed sales for $30,000 for the collector's edition' of Pirates
personnel_signal: Jersey Jack recruited multiple workers from Stern during factory ramp-up in Illinois
medium · Eric: 'I've heard through the grapevine that it seemed there were just waves of people coming from Stern to work for us. It happened.'