What's going on everybody? Welcome to episode 6 of the Dirty Pool podcast. I am Jeff and today I'm joined by none other the only Aven that we've ever had on the channel and probably ever will. It's Chad the Bird. Everybody, what? Hell yeah. What's up, nerds? Oh, good god. Uh, this is an interesting moment in the history of me. I have never met a talking bird for one, and I've never met a bird that knows how to play pinball. What the [ __ ] is that all about? I don't know if I know how to play pinball. I know how humans play pinball. My arms barely even reach. Like these wings, I'm packing [ __ ] for them. But I have It seems like you've got guns. I can do the guns. Hey, what's up John Biscety and Johnny BTN? Oh, these What's up, humans? Good to see everyone with a lot of exclamation points. What's What's really freaking me out the most about you is that I feel that your parents must have been uh mixed mixed um animal species because you have you have hands but you also have wings. Can we talk about is it was it your mom or your dad that was the human and what what's that whole what was that business coming from? You know, God is it's m he works in mysterious ways. It's a mystery. Nature is a nightmare. Um you know, I don't really know my parents all that well. I was found in a basket uh in Lagouna Beach, California, and I've since been living with you humans ever since. Um but I would like to think that I'm some kind of genetic experiment that went horribly arry. I want to believe they like pump Mountain Dew into a whole tube of weird goo and I'm the I just because I like I want to be a mad ball or something like a 80s cartoon. Like that's what I want. I want to believe that. Is the true life's mystery. You're right. That's true. Goo is you're wishing you're wishing you came from the goo like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, but I'm getting more of the vibe that you were abandoned by a dumpster in in Laguna Beach. Yeah. I mean like it's cuz reality is never as much fun as Saturday morning cartoons. I feel like there's a lot to be noted with the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles origin story where it's like, yeah, it's actually about a bunch of orphans that have been living in like the city and it's like, no, no, no. They're mutant turtles. They were found in the sewer and they were mutated by goo to be ninjas. This is my working story. That's amazing. Dent wants to know if I'm being paid for this. Yeah, in exposure. That's right. I exposed myself to you earlier before we went live and that was the transaction. I paid I actually paid for that. So nothing is no pay for this. I actually don't really know um the the history of my beginnings, but I'm sure that'll make a great movie someday. Get after me. A24. Yo, hit him up. A24 is the correct choice for that. By the way, they did a kids movie. I watched it the other day. It's wild. Like, I'm not even joking. They did It's called um It's called Tales of Oshi or The Mysteries of Oshi or something. The Legend of Oshi. It looks amazing. It's Go check it out. It's awesome. It's very bizarre. Uh, but back to you. Back to you. Let's talk about We're talking origin days here. Let's see. You You live in Chicago now, right? I do. I do live in Chicago right now. Um, I got here in 2009. Uh, but I I like I lived here in 2006. I was like, we went and then I moved to LA again. So, it's like LA to Chicago to LA to Chicago. And uh that's quite the that's that's not quite by coastal bouncing back and forth, but that's enough to make your head spin. That's what it is. It does. It does sound. It was more like me. I was nervous about the cold and I was like I don't know if I can do this. I'm like hyperolor, man. Like I don't think that my plumage is made for this kind of Carl Weathers, but I got used to it. I you know, I was going to get to this question a little later on, but uh your coat it's very pink. Let's Can we be real? Do you die? No. No. Do you think that I could afford the manic panic that would take to get this level on a daily base? I don't think so. This is natural. This is to keep other species from eating me. Do you have any advice for older birds that are trying to make sure that their plumage stays as uh vibrant? Age gracefully. The camouflage works in your favor. That's amazing. Uh, all right. The actual comedy routine. If people don't know, if you don't know who Chad the Bird is, you've been living under a bird rock. Uh you are you're a comedian bird rock spec not a regular rock a bird walks we'll get into your pinballess because this is a pinball stream so we got to talk about pinball at some point but you perform at the papier-mâché at the green mill lounge on the reggg for a long time. Can you talk about that? Since 2009 that was my first job when I got to Chicago uh from Lagona. And uh it's um it's a it's a it's a live magazine. It's kind of like um it's got a little daily show. It's got a little This American Life. It's got a little uh like um like 1960s, everybody's drunk and you know, somebody's playing some jazz. Uh it's got a live band. It's a rotating cast. I'm the only one that's there every week. I get an assignment on Friday about something in the news. I got 24 hours to throw down 10 minutes about our popup and tell you what I learned. Ah, incredible. Uh do you do you always collaborate with Bill Lin on those or anytime I can whenever he's around? And in fact, I just texted him earlier to see if he wanted to come over because he doesn't live far from me. Um, and I never feel safe unless he's around. But yeah, no, I do whenever I can. Do you feel unsafe Billy? No, I'm in my apartment. I'm in my little my little perch. So, right now I'm okay. But once I'm out in the real world, I need a strapping human to take care of me. And Bill is quite the strapping man. He can also play piano. If you're not following Bill Lin, go do that. Do that right now. Go follow Bill Lin. Uh, you should go to his Twitch stream. Uh, parody song Improv. He does it like twice a week. Send me that when we're done and I'll post it. I'll put all that stuff in the description. He's going to do it. Uh, so one thing I noticed that all of your performances on your YouTube, they're monologue style, but if you watch if you watch Chad is Lit, which is your pinball collaboration with Logan, you're doing it improv style. So, I'm curious why you dedicate You're obviously an incredible improv comedian. You weird little bird. But your main your main outlet is monologues. Yeah. I mean, I think of it more like reporting, like it's information gathering in aggregate. So, it's like not really the research. It's like I look up a bunch of stuff from a bunch of trusted sources and I verify and then I deliver the news. Um, if anything, it's more like I'm I'm an anchor uh but uh could never get like a square job. So, instead they just have me do it for a bunch of drunks at 3:00 in the afternoon in Chicago. Nice. I feel like that's a good place to get a laugh. Yeah. Well, it's not it's not as hard as you think. No. Uh, like it's it's sitting down and actually just like kind of like trying to understand humanity a little bit better and breaking it down into 10-minute bits. And then I got hour shows. I'm doing tours and that kind of stuff. So, it's a little bit about the like hanging out for Logan is great cuz I get to watch people play pinball and I get to talk history and that kind of stuff. So, I don't even think that's just improv. That's just like calling a game. We're trying to get it to the point like my buddy Teddy's going to be on the next stream where we're calling it ESPN style. I want to get a little like mustard. You got to get that intro music too. You got to get those big brass horns going. You know, proper NFL style. You're talking to the Tesh. It's very busy. So, the you you talked about Star Wars fonts being pirated, and I want to jump into the font world real quick, which I'm going to do, but you you obviously blew up on TikTok. Are you worried, has your stuff ever been pirated as well? Do you worry about your material being reused? I have seen on occasion AI usage of my likeness and it's both flattering and horrifying. I did have somebody once send me uh a they took what they said they was like they took 10 hours of my YouTube stuff. They put it into AI and they had me read the opening of Moby Dick and it was frighteningly accurate down to the inflection points. I was like, "Yeah, that's where I would hit it right there." Damn. Wow. That's disturbing and kind of amazing at the same time. I kept it because I'm like, "Dude, I'm keeping this and I'm writing your name." Yeah, I know who you are, man. Um, but yeah, not really. Like, nobody's really like I've seen people stitch my stuff, but you're supposed to do that on TikTok and Instagram and all that. That's true. That's true. No, not yet. Not that I've seen. I'm assuming it's only a matter of time before some other bird out there is just like, "Yeah, I can talk about science." Um, maybe not a bird, though. Could not. It could also be It could be anything really. your your human human world is a mess. There's a talking dumpsters. You could have I'm still trying to figure it out. So you have holy [ __ ] Is that stuff still around? Says Jenn. I use it right now. I just use the normal brown one. You look great. It's very earthy. All earth tones. But But we're going to typography though. So you were at it for like 10 minutes in in extreme detail. It's a really awesome bit. Check it out on the on the YouTubes uh about fonts in general and you mentioned a lot of great fonts but you don't mention two in particular. I really am curious of these two fonts which one do you think is superior and why? Which is better between Comic Sands and Papyrus? Papyrus. Oh, and why? Well, because there's there's some kind of ancientness to it. It feels chiseled. Whereas Comic Sands feels like somebody drew it after getting hit on the head. very like if you use papyrus, I feel like there's going to be some kind of cool like bizookie playing underneath you and there's going to be some ancient story associated even if it is cheese. Like it's used in like Greek restaurants and uh avatar and Avatar like there's some there's something deeply like primal about it. I don't know. But like comics imagine going to like like a kick-ass Persian place and like reading the menu and it's all in comic sands. you would doubt all that you were about to have. You'd be like, I don't know about these kebabs. I think they might be a joke. Part of me is thinking like, what if that means it's the best kebab I've ever had because they put all the creativity into the kebab and then none of it into the text. You might be right. It's only for us to find out. Really, you can't speculate. But if I were to watch Avatar and the title was in comic sands, I would doubt James Cameron's commitment. Uh, speaking of eating food, I have you on record here, quote, saying that you're eating frozen pizza and beer gives you the shits so loud it sets off alarms and scares the neighbor's dog. It's true. true. What have you eaten that doesn't give you the shits? Uh, Uh, any kind of like millet uh, and nuts. Big fan of that. I've been into protein shakes lately. I'm a pescatarian by nature. Um, but like I'm in your human world, man. I'm not going to say no to pizza. Like, it's just too good. But I just have to prepare ahead of time. H interesting. I don't even think it's lactose intolerance. I just think I'm not made for it. When you have a blowout, how do you clean your feathers? Like, it looks like you would be very difficult to to pre just give it a shake. You just give it a shake. You just little And that's it. It's gone. That's like Hey, it's it's stain resistant. Interesting. You You do do you like wax your plumes to give it like a buffer? Like some sort of like nonstick? There's a there's a feather forward shampoo that I use and it's a moisturizer. Um, but that's it. Usually just a Q-tip will do it. Um, but you know, I pay for this place, so I'm going to use my shower. But that's just me. That's amazing that Do you pay taxes as a bird? Like, how does the whole like No, I'm not allowed to vote, so I'm not paying [ __ ] until you can let me get in the room and voice my opinion. Okay. So, really, this is turning into a a bird rights uh element. Says Tommy. I mean, Tommy's Tommy is not wrong. By the way, Tommy is Tommy is rated uh he is the number six IFPA number. He has played pinball for so long that his IFPA number is single digits. Whoa. Come over to Chicago. Get on the thing. I'm sorry. Number five. I [ __ ] that up. Damn, Tommy. Yeah. Come over to Logan. Get on the stream. Get lit with us. Show us how it's done. Uh, back to fonts. Back to fonts. So if Chad ever had a font, would it be Sarif or Sand Sif? Sans sif. No feet. I get it. That's pretty funny. Nailed it. Get it, everybody. All right, Logan Arcade. We're at the time to talk about Logan Arcade. This is obviously such a legendary place and you have created such an interesting uh stream for it. When did your collaboration start with them and how did you become the the bird face of pinball announcing? First of all, I love that that is what I'm considered. I would love to be a pinball ambassador, have me on your per your podcast and all that. I would love to talk about pinball until I explode. Um, we started doing the stream in um 2022 I think 23 somewhere in there. We just started doing it uh off and on sporadically here and there and uh then kind of picked up a regular like schedule. So about three years now we've been doing it. That's it. That's the whole origin story unless you want me to get deeper with it. Well, no, I'm curious cuz uh you are you have a natural like ability to talk about the game. So clearly Chad, you love pinball. I do love pinball. Even though I don't quite understand how you are able to play pinball, I appreciate that you do love pinball. What's What's your favorite jam at Logan? Uh my favorite jam. Your afternoon edibles are kicking in sports cards direct. Yeah, I mean that's that's the easiest way to get to know me. Um Oh, and Tommy's going to be in Chicago when the pinball expo hits. Hell yeah, buddy. Let me know when I'm also going to be in Chicago for when Pinball Expo. Come on the stream. Come on. I would love to. Are you kidding me? Let's [ __ ] go. Let's go. Let's do it. Let's [ __ ] go, guys. Let's [ __ ] go. Get in the time machine. Wait. Waiting is not the best part. Waiting is the hardest. No. And it's a long ways away. That's in October. By the way, for everybody who doesn't know what Pinball Expo is, it is not anywhere near. No. No. It's going to be in the fall. Um, so my favorite jam that they have over at Logan right now, I mean, Godzilla. I love uh the the Chicago gaming Pulp Fiction one I'm also a big fan of. Pulp Fiction's awesome. I feel like that game doesn't get enough uh uh cred. It really doesn't. We may be streaming it soon. Just definitely um I'm trying to think like that's it. Like those are my favorite ones I have there. But if like we're going to do classics, Radical um and uh I'm also a big fan of King Kong right now. I know that's divisive, but they Why is it divisive? I think King Kong's a great game on it. Some of the punks that are so hardcore pin heads are in there being like, I don't know about this. I'm like, what do you want? What more do you want? Owen giving you the goods. It's got a bunch of cool toys and it's got some easy shots. Calm down. What are they bitching about? What's the I haven't heard that much hate. The thing that they're bitching about the most right now is that they're like, I think it's over toyed and I think it's there's over complicated. I'm like, oh, I'm sorry. The horse you got was the wrong color. Pony's too big. You was like, I just want to get a car for my birthday. Oh, it's pink. What a loser. Like, easy, princess. You know, it's funny cuz all this I feel like the Stern people complain that that it's been too barebones and they want more stuff like Jersey Jack games. And now they've got they've got to actually play like, right? And then now they're like, "It's too much. I want less." I feel like it's that Rick and Morty line. It's like your your booze mean nothing. I've seen what makes you cheer. Like I played John Wick. Anyway, um Godzilla, by the way, John Wick is not a good game if you've lived under a rock and not played pinball. Listen, if you've It's a great game for tournaments and we do stream it at tournaments a bunch. It's great for point gaining uh and for skill shots, but it's not fun. It's mean and it feels like you're working out and it feels like I'm doing math. I want the rejection on those shots. No shot should reject so fast that you have zero chance of doing it. I don't want to feel like I should be training on this machine. I just want to have a good time. Um, which I say as we have like pinball tournaments, but anyway, we're not doing that right now. Should be fun, too. People that are too hardcore about it or, you know, you got to, if you're going to a tournament to have a good time, then do that. If you're going to a tournament that's at like Pinberg, that's when you can be like super, you know, about it. Yeah. Tommy says Dune is better than I expected. I haven't got to play that yet. I really want to be checking it out. You like it more than King Kong? I've heard that's a thing. Uh, I have both of those games and Dune is fun, but Dune's code is incredibly underbaked and it needs a lot of work and it's a lot has happened in the last couple of days. I mean, call outs just got put into it yesterday. So, Oh yeah, that's right. Uh, Harry Potter, I just saw the ads for that one. We'll see. I don't know. I haven't checked it out yet. They haven't exposed any of the Playfield artwork. We're going to find out in two days. June 5th, that's when they're actually going to post it. When they do teasers for that kind of stuff and it's like, "Check out the back glass." And I'm like, "Uh-huh." And they're like, "Check out the sides." We're like, "So, you know, you're making a Harry Potter game." And they're like, "But next we'll show you the playfield." I'm like, "You have it right there." It's kind of like the playfield. It's like a tease, like a softcore kind of way, you know, like you're getting a little bit of a tease, but you got to go like pay for it on Only Fans or whatever to get the other rest of burlesque. It's not quite the thing you want to do for your buddies bachelor party, but it's just shy of that because, you know, you don't know where he's at these Have you considered doing like an Only Birds account for like more of your passionate fans or? Um, yeah. And I feel like the problem with that is mostly people are looking like for um they check me out in a way that makes me feel like they're basting me with their eyes and like especially in the summer everybody's got the grilling eyes and I'm not in the mood for any of that DMing. So, no, not yet. I feel like we can get there eventually, but I kind of want to have some friends in the mix on that one. That makes sense. Safety issue. Although, I do have another question that's kind of on that line from the research. I did. It said that 97% of birds don't have a visible penis. True. Uh I don't know like would that really would that affect your only fans account or like is is Chad hung? You know, let me ask you a question. Do you think like if you can dream it, it exists on the internet. In a world full of people that are into wife pillows, I don't think I have a problem at all. All of this is open for business in ways you can't even imagine. And I feel like if I could put it online, someone's going to pay for it. If you think this is the weirdest thing that's on the internet right now, you never went to Ebomb's World back in the day. Oh, I definitely I'm I'm old enough for Ebomb's World and more. That's fantastic. God, remember that was back when you had to dig for all of the good meme? You remember the Fensler films like the G.I. Joe? Like GI Joe, man, the classic. Ironically, I'm only like a couple like so we did the math and since I'm really technically like um 19 years old, but through birdage I'm like four. I've just been like googling all this [ __ ] but like I Google constantly so I know what you're talking about, right? You do you do a lot of research. They count as bird cuz maybe they are the outlier. Yes, we do. Of course they do. Ducks are um ducks are like distant cousins. Um they're foul. I know there's a name for what they are. They have like a really fun science name that I'm not thinking of right now. But yeah, I guess we we let them in. They're invited if anything. Is there an animal that you would not let into the Logan arcade? Animal that I would bear. I think a bear is a pretty decent nogo. That's a good That's a good answer. Speaking of pinball related stuff though, George Gomez birthday is today. I just I just realized this. Isn't that incredible? Happy birthday, George. I got to have him on the stream when we then we were doing Pulp Fiction. That's incredible. And Mark Ritchie and the two of them are super canankerous and I loved it. That's awesome that he went on the stream to do a different company's game, too. That speaks well to like that he just loves pinball in general. He had a he was just in the he was in the room. Um and then he also we also streamed I think we streamed Return. Did we do Revenge from Mars? It was one of It was either that or Attack from Mars that he was around that he was on for. Nice job. Weird. Well, if I mean, Revenge from Mars has a giant like screen over the cabinet and has the reflection on it. And the the Attack from Mars is the other one. Pinball 2000, one of the only two games that absolutely destroyed the pinball industry. That and uh that shitty Star Wars prequel, the Star Wars one, that was the one that did it cuz like Pinball 2000's interesting because like as you know, um when Revenge for Mars came out, they're like, "This is it. This is going to be the future of Pinball." And then they did the Phantom Menace and then that movie sucked and they were like, "Never mind. Let's never do this again. And it's like, okay. I mean, I don't know if it was necessarily the pinball game's fault, but all right. I love that they were like, let's let's hang a extremely heavy CRT monitor over a giant playfield of glass. Like, this was an excellent idea. Complicated. Yeah. Like, let's make it hard to get into. Pepper's ghost. The kids are really into 1800's magic. Uh, Nclear Black says, "Mark Ritchie's voice work on Capcom's Kingp Kingpin." Here's the interesting thing about that. I got to meet one of the guys that was the mechanics on Kingpin. He's also the mechanic on uh Monster Bash and he was on a stream not too long ago. You can find it all on the YouTube. Uh it's the one where we have Monster Bash and his name is Chris Shipman. And while he was there, oh [ __ ] I should have brought this out. It's in the cabinet. Uh he gave me one of the original Dracula uh miniatures from 1998 from the original game. He said, "I've had this on my desk for like 30 years. I just brought it." Huh. That's very cool. Yeah, the vault items is a great one. It's so It's H. Monster badge is another good one. If you get yourself a kingpin, though, it's great. And a fiddle. Uh, a lot of people don't realize that a lot of like uh like Steve Ritchie, you know, they worked as voiceover actors for a lot of like older games like Mortal Kombat, I believe, had Steve Ritchie as one of the announcers in it. And uh I don't know, they were like in that Mortal Kombat like he's the guy that says finish him. He's the voice of uh the emperor. Like that's the guy. And He's also Black Knight. Uh cuz it's not just his game, it's his it's his voice, too. Oh, really? That's awesome. You're talking about Swords of Rage, I'm guessing, right? I guess Black Knight Black Knight 2000 and Swords of Rage. Those are all games. I mean, I didn't realize he did call outs for all those as well. Yeah, he's like the Steven Spielberg of Pinball. Like, he's got all the classics for this guy. Like, Radical is a Steve Ritchie joint. Um and like and and maybe his best game, Led Zeppelin, right? Like I wasn't gonna bring that up because as a Zep head I was excited about this game and then I played it and I was like, "Oh, it's okay." Yeah. But he did go on to make Elton John and that's amazing. Wait, do don't birds have really sensitive hearing? How do you listen to music? How do I indeed? God is a mystery. Life is a mystery. Nature Nature is wild. I don't know. It just seems to work out. Maybe it's the frequency. that or I have permanent damage and I just can't tell yet. You You're talking so loud. I'm guessing so. No, I'm I'm kidding. What? What? Uh no, I'm fine. Thanks. If your If your landlord, Mr. Bogdan's listening, is there anything that you'd like to say to him right now? Joe. Joe can hear me. He's downstairs. Hey, we're talking about you. Go on Twitch. No Twitch. He doesn't know. He barely has an iPhone. What kind of landlord do you have to be to give a bird housing like this? It's like I'm guessing you pay rent kind. Yeah, I do now that I have a job, but I my place is tiny. I'm small. I'm like three apples high. I don't take up a lot of space. Like I've got this old corner. You're on I gave you a quote saying that uh your merch supports the charity of yourself. Uh cuz electricity is expensive. Uh what's the most expensive part about being a bird? Uh, well, I I am a bird in Chicago, which means I know how to drink, so there's that. I have nasty habits. I take tea at three. That's a Rolling Stones quote. Um, I also have a lot of equipment here. I'm streaming, so most of that. And yeah, my uh my bread budget's pretty high. I'm not I mean, I go to Whole Foods for that. Listen, I thought you weren't supposed to give birds bread. Or is that just like bread? Popcorn. You're also not supposed to give birds bread because you're not supposed to tease them because if you keep laying it out there, they're going to keep coming back and eventually you're not going to be there and then they're going to be sad because we don't forget [ __ ] We live for a while. What's an interaction at Logan Arcade that's left you real sad like that? What's left me sad at Logan? Yeah, like has someone just walked away from Did you get any sick bird burns? Like No. No. I mean, I have a knife for a face so very few people want to get down with that. Have you had to get into a tussle over couple of times? I mean, I'm tiny, so you know, I'm ready to fight as most tinies are. You get scrappy. I am scrappy. Well, you know, you get enough mealert in me and I'm ready to fight anybody. And that's a Malort slogan. Uh from like 1993 or something. It was uh tonight's the night you fight your dad was a Malort uh loan logo for a long time. Um I don't know what's left me sad at Logan. Um not much. It's really hard to be sad when you're surrounded by so much goodness. Uh but I have done there's a shot that they make us take on the stream uh that you do, the people that watch because you give us money and then we do the shots you pay for uh called the dirty toothbrush and that's Malert and Rumplements. That'll wreck your day. That's pain. Tommy's never been to Logan. He went to Antarium. Yeah, Entarium's a dope place. We want to stream out of there sometimes. I hope we can do it soon. Yeah, don't give ducks bread. That is true, Bisky. Yeah, I guess that's where I got my bird knowledge. And not to like say that all birds are ducks. I'm not trying to like generalize the the species, but yeah, I don't know a lot about birds. I just, you know, I'm just being real here. Thank you for being raw with me. Yeah. Uh, yeah. So, Chicago is obviously the hub of pinball, right? I mean, this is like the the pinball mecca, right? Yep. Uh, are there are there any other notable if somebody was going to visit Chicago and they were like, "Man, I want the true pinball experience like other than going to the the factories and getting tours and stuff like that, are there arcades or any like museums that you would be like, "Man, you got to go to Chicago. You got to do this." Well, you know, it's weird because we are to pinball like Detroit is to cars and yet there's no uh museums here. There's no like physical representation of it other than the barcades and we have a ton of them because you know Stern is here, Jersey Jack is not far. Um and uh American Pinball's also here. Um so like you could just Yeah. Right. Tell Tell me more about this thing you made up or had a dream about once. We played Barry O's. That game's not that bad. It's weird for me because it's a grilling meat themed pinball game. So, I'm sitting there watching it going, "Damn, that's uh that's dark, bro." You get uncomfortable during the chicken roasting sequence. Imagine. Just imagine. And you you you'll meet me halfway. But like, I also look good. It's like, man, I look good when I'm roasted. Is I get it. I slept by the radiator once. I woke up. It smelled delicious. So, I understand. Um but I don't think I would want to play a pinball machine that had like a bunch of humans being cooked like a like a cannibal themed like pinball machine. I know. The Texas Chainsaw one's pretty dope. Okay, that's a good point. Spooky does have some good ones. That's a really good point. I went to a JJB factory, too. I was lucky to get a private tour by Ken Cromwell. [ __ ] yeah, dude. Nice. Thanks. This would be dope. I'd be Give me a gobble hobble. Easy, silver. Um, the Kemp Cromwell thing is a little strange. It's funny that that Flipping Out is posting a new hire during a time when supposedly Pinball Machine sales are like on a decline. Yeah, I'm not sure I I have a lot of faith in like the sales reports because I'm seeing Sterns cranking them out every like two years or two every year or something. So, it's like I think everything's okay. We are in some golden age. I think the pan we are in a golden age of pinball, but I feel like every every age is the golden age of pinball because whatever machines are out are usually the best of the current generation. The current generation because they're the only ones. I mean, I get it. The aggregate's a little small, right? Uh but there it's like a the pandemic created a problem of there being too many pinball companies making too many games which is also not a problem because it creates competition and we need these smaller companies to make games just so that there aren't just two big giant pinball companies. No offense start and JJP but you know them small boys like Pinball Brothers and Spooky and Turner and Barrels need Yeah. David Sky. David was on the podcast last week and uh their games are 11th game is I think one of the best games of that year and it didn't get any love. Instead everyone was freaking out about Jaws which I have opinions about. Oh my god, I'm a Jaws lover. What are you going to poop on Jaws about? By the way, Labyrinth is a great game and really did bring it. What the [ __ ] are you going to say bad about Jaws? Get it out, bird. What do you got? Too much [ __ ] going on. I don't want to. There's too much [ __ ] I feel like if I'm going to play Jaws game, I just want to fight Jaws. That's it the whole time. And instead of going say that you love King Kong cuz there's all this [ __ ] to do. It's a little different with the King Kong one because the King Kong board I know they're both Keith Owens so I feel like it's okay if we're comparing the two, but that the only like goodness I found with Jaws with that upper playfield. You only get that in the premium and like I just think the pro is not bringing it like the premium does. And that is which will I will judge is to be like I want to have the same amount of fun on the pro that I do on the premium. It just doesn't happen for me with J. Pro is a barren wasteland. It literally is like if when you step up to it, it feels weird because you feel like they forgot to put like a third of the pinball machine in it. It's true. And I feel like that's a testament to the game because I feel like the pro is the game stripped down to its bare bones. And if it's not as fun as the premium, then you're missing out. Godzilla is a good example. Kong is a good example. I've played both. I even played the LE and the LE is just as fun as all three of them. I just think something happened with Jaws. But that's just me. We stream it all the time. It was game of the year. So that's opinions. That's true. It did it did win a TWIP for that. But let's also, you know, there's been a lot of people that are talking about that there's not enough separation between the models, the pro, the premiums, and the LED. Somebody uh on our Discord was talking about how the way to solve that for LE is to make sure that they have the Sterns ambient lighting kit. You know, the [ __ ] that they put in John Wick on the sides. I think that's a great idea. Why doesn't the LE have that? It would physically make it different than the premium. It shouldn't be this. You shouldn't have to customize it as much as you do right now. There's so many things you can do. I hate playing that Art Blade the the shaker motor game. Just like I don't want to have to put all this [ __ ] in. Yep. Just give it cuz then that's the bare bones of it. Like make the game just fun on the face of it. And if you want to customize it, you can. But if it's a good car, it's a good car. You shouldn't have to put like like cans in the back or like you know stripes on it or any kind of like LEDs and [ __ ] It should just be a good car. By the way, it sounds like your car is awesome. I'm guessing it's just it jangles and has ground effects. Come check out the most irritating car in the neighborhood. Do you have spinning rims? My [ __ ] It's my bitching Camaro with spinning rims. It's my It's my irock. Get ready. It's so loud. I just want a bird on crack in my pins. Wolf man, we can make it happen. It's true. Topper DLC will kill games if they look lock. It's true. But I did get to hang out with a couple of the guys. Oh, what the hell is the name of that company? Electric something. It's not electric bat. It's like something like that. They came through. Um what was it? Tin does a ton of the toppers. No one. Um it's two names. It's like Phantom Jazz. I can't remember. Electric something. But they came through. They did the topper for the um the new topper that they have for uh Twilight Zone. And that one's really dope. They have it at Logan right now. It's on loan. It has the pyramid. The eyes look around it. Very reminiscent of your logo. And there's a little um extra ramp for when you do the gumball multiball and a and a ball will roll back and forth and [ __ ] It's pretty cool. Interesting. I know you've talked about Star Wars before. When you said Phantom Jazz, it made me think, do you know what they call the music in the the Star Wars universe that happens in the cantina? Yeah. Please visit my report, Jiz or Jats. That's on uh YouTube right now. So you you do know Oh my god, that's hilarious. I did a whole So in Star Wars canonically now it's called Jats but originally it was called jizz music unlike unironically with two Z's and uh then they changed it unbeknownst to people to JS and I was like hell no get some jizz in your ears that's the good stuff in your ears. Yeah, go to my YouTube. I think it's from last year. Look up Jizz or Jats. We have like a whole screaming match about it because I was pissed. I was like, you cowards. You were 100% right. It is absolutely Jiz. Look, if you're going to commit to something, if it's canon, keep it. Don't change it. What's wrong with you? Why? Oh, who are you? George Lucas. Oh, wait. Stern. Oh, wait. Let's see. Tap and ball story. I'm looking at this. That's the That's the Twilight Zone Topper. Yeah. Uh, by the way, what is it from? Yeah, it's from Electric Playground. Thank you. That's what it is. Damn. When it comes to chat, chat saves the day like nine times out of 10 when it comes to [ __ ] that I don't know. When you go on my stream on YouTube, you will the chat will either um pull some hard facts that you weren't ready for or it'll just be um they're really obsessed with Port Mantos right now where we'll just take two words and slam them together and it just goes on the whole night. So, what are your favorite two words to put together? Uh oh [ __ ] What was one that I thought was great? Uh oh, [ __ ] Oh, you put me on the spot. I can't. That's okay. Can I tell you one that I like with three words? Go for it. It's fresh ass bees. Fresh ass bees or fresh ass bees. The jury's out. This is, by the way, for the people that are in chat, I jumped in on one of the uh uh chat is lit episodes. That was the one with Chur the Dork. That was the funniest thing I've ever seen. It was something like that. It was something like it wasn't religious, but it was something like that where somebody said something that sounded like Paulie Shore just like got woken up and said the first word that came to his mind. And I can't remember what the [ __ ] it was, but yeah, that was the Fresh Ass Bees episode. Man, I'm just now I'm thinking about Paulie Shore talking and it's it's having an effect on me like emotionally. I'm going to get to meet him at uh Columbus at the comedy f. I'm doing the I'm sorry. And also that's awesome. Yeah, it's really hard because I don't know if I'm gonna be able to be like, "What's up, weasel?" cuz I'm afraid I might upset him and I don't know how to How do I How do What do you refer to Poly Shore as I have thous questions? What do you think comedians like Carrot Top, Poly Shore, like people that are like iconically terrible? Like Like that's your like contribution to society. Living his best life. He's jacked. He looks insane. He's doing prop comedy in Vegas. He has a home. I'm Dude, he looks like Pickle Rick that someone died orange. does. But I'm, you know what, he doesn't give a [ __ ] And I'm like, good for you, dude. Whatever, whatever is getting you through the day. You look like a Halloween decoration. But like, and that's coming from me. So, something gets him through the day, but it's it's not it's not fandom. Yeah. Yeah. Welcome to We're just [ __ ] on Carrot Top right now. I'm sure he's going to be like, "Hey, what's up, Banana Beak?" And I'll be like, "You are correct. I look like a banana [ __ ] a stack of fabrics at Michaels." So, I'm like, you're on a you're on a desert island, but it's not a desert, I guess, because it's surrounded by water. Whatever. Anyways, Keratop's there. Who wins in a fight between Chad the Bird and Kerat? Dude, Kerat dude is jacked. Have you seen him bench? Tik Tok. You said you were scrappy, though. I am scrappy, but I'm not a [ __ ] Hulk. Like, that dude can destroy. Show me your guns. Eric's going to win. That's a good point. Yeah, of course he is. Let's move on. I'm an appetizer. Uh, you got pins. You got a lot of like flare on. Is this like Did you work at uh Shann Benigans? I can't think. I'm trying to make a Yeah, I'm sure you know what reference I'm trying to make. I'm [ __ ] it up. Help me out here. Benigans. Well, this one's my Malort one from when we got our sponsorship. That's a Malor pin. This is my Chicago one cuz like you have to represent. Um, this one is I got this one from Amy Crash who made a a mini hobby uh homebrew pinball of me that is at Logan Arcade that you can check out. It's called Chad the Balls. I'm really proud of it. Uh, and this is my favorite one. This is my Stern Army one when I got inducted into the Stern Army. Nice. Which is down here. Is it Do you think they have like a Stern militia for people that just like aren't ready yet? I'm in I'm in the I'm in the the uh Stern Junior Varsity. Uh what's it like the like it's like um like the Coast Guard. Um I don't know if they like if they put you on active duty, but I think I technically am now because I have this. Does the Second Amendment mean a lot to you? Well, I am nervous about it. What with hunting laws? Uh casual G. What did I turn? Am I high? Yes, you are high. Uh I need 15 pieces of flare. That's true. At Chachkis, that's what it was. I can't believe Casual GC is saying, "What did I tune into?" I We need to do another introduction here. This is [ __ ] Chad the Bird. Why am I pointing this way? Yeah. Where are you at? What? What? It depends on what you're looking at. It's really from your point of view. That's true. I'm trying to think of what it is when somebody joins. It's not It's not junior varsity. It's like not the reserves. What is it when you're in high school and you join the military um and you go into college? It's got a name, but that's what I am. It's called bad idea. Not a great idea. It's a It's good that we don't know what it is. ROC. Thank you, Johnny. Thank you. Yeah, I'm a part of their ROC. Nice. Uh, that's good that Stern's really trying to manifest a strength in numbers. More of a Russian tactic than uh it's a it's a quantity over quality currently, I guess. Well, a lot of the parts come from China. Anyway, going though. I mean, you know what's interesting? When I went to American Pinball, since we were We can absolutely [ __ ] on everybody, anytime, all the time. But when I went to American Pinball, they do make their own uh their own stuff in house. Like they have a ton of 3D printers. I thought that was pretty dope. That is cool. Also, uh, American Pinball did a bunch of people dirty. You talked about or I'm sorry, uh, Barryo's barbecue challenge. The rules on that game are actually Steve Bowen did the rule set for that and it's awesome. Steve Bton, Donnie, super nice guy, very well educated in pinball. He's announced plenty of tournaments. I mean, he was up for quite a while and then was doing Pinberg stuff. He's the best. Amazing. So, but American Pinball, why did you do them all dirty? You got all these talented people. What the [ __ ] That's a sad That's a sad day. It's a sad story. It's a It's a fun game. The meat cooking freaks me out. It is odd. It looks like it should smell good. Yeah, Tommy Lazarus pinball. You're right. Burrio is fun, not going to lie. But it is weird to be a bird and watch them basting my relatives whilst I'm playing. But it is a fun one. Do you think that there's a cow someplace that is an excellent pinball player that has similar feelings? I would love to think so. If I can exist, then so can a pinball playing cow. If you're out there, get in here. True. Yeah, we do. Meta Knight man, good to see you, bud. Of course. Cross it over with Spookies. Yeah, man. Spooky is another gamer uh hub that I love and I want to hang out with those guys, but they're not in Chicago. Um I'm a big fan of their Ultra Man table. That Ultram Man is pretty fun. It's very different. It's just Halloween, but it is still, you know, it's still fun. Um yeah, I would love to get Bug on the stream or anybody that is part of the spooky crew. Uh put in a good word. I don't know uh who to even begin on that. But uh have you played Evil Dead? It's amazing. It is amazing. It's also one of the best toppers in the business. That's absolutely true. I personally go. It's good. I think toppers are a bit of an unnecessary extremity. Most of it is because I'm bitter cuz I don't have the ceiling space in most of the pinball areas that I have. Uh but yeah, it's a great game. No, I think I think they're cresting cuz like I wasn't the biggest fan of Texas Chainsaw. I thought it was a little too busy. I don't mean in terms of rules. I just mean in terms of board. I got a little confused about what I was looking at. The ramps, it's loopy loopy dupy, man. It's like crazy. Super loops. Um, but they just they they found their stride with Evil Dead cuz I loved their Scooby-Doo, but and like they did the Rick and Morty one, right? They did Total Nuclear Annihilation. Rick and Morty. Well, so Total Nuclear Annihilation was some of their games were like they were already designed and they kind of purchased the license to it and then manufactured it. But that's a number of company. American Pinball did that with Valhalla and I'm sure chat go ham on I think Alien for Pinball Brothers was like that as well. Um but yeah, regardless they it's part of their library. TNA is an amazing tournament game. It's so fast playing and makes you it keeps the tournament flowing, man, which is good. Everybody wants to play pinball 14 hours straight. Silver is Pul Fiction. Picture is Chicago Gaming. It's actually it's kind of its own weird little mutant. Um it's Petro, right? and Mark Ritchie did that one. Uh, but they're from opposite ends of the the Chicago world. It's a great game though. It is super fun. Um, played Evil Dead at OneUp in Colorado. Oh, I want to go there so bad. I haven't gotten to check that place out yet. Galloping Ghost has the other Predator. Galloping Ghost, man. We're working on trying to stream out of there one of these days. If you've never been to Gallop and Ghost, it's the largest arcade in the world, 40 minutes outside of Chicago. Um, they have over 900. How do you maintain that many games? I feel like every time every time Pinball Museum in Nevada gets brought up, it's just like, oh my god. Like the games never work. I've been there like three times and I just like it is such a negative pinball experience for people that may have never played a pinball machine. Like it's true. It's not for people to play pinball. It's for you to go and see what's working and then maybe you'll get to play something you've never played before. That's why I go there every time I'm in Vegas. Um, but yeah, the Galloping Ghost, like they do a great job of maintaining their games to a certain degree, but after you have like 900 plus cabinets in your business, you're going to you're going to jump over a few of them. So, Kale actually just talked about this on their podcast about having too many games where they can't do it. They have two techs that they maintain to make sure the games are there. I I feel like it is the responsibility. I've used the term responsibility before. being freaked out about it. But like if you have a ton of games, you got to have a tech to fix them. Like pay a person. If you're going to have a bunch of games, pay a tech to make sure they work for people. You're also in Chicago. Everyone here knows how to fix a [ __ ] game. Like that's how intense it is here. Like everybody has some kind of homebrew going. So you can just call somebody be like, "Hey, Trevor, what are you doing right now? You know, it's [ __ ] House of House of the Dead's not working." A dude, I got some patches in my apartment. Hang on one sec. Uh I don't know. I don't know how that cuz like you go to Galloping Ghost. First of all, you should always go to Galpy. It's such a cool place. But there's like games on games like some games just don't work. So, it's kind of like when you see like a TV on top of a TV, which I just think is hilarious cuz they're like, "Oh [ __ ] this isn't working." Well, we'll just park, you know, uh, you know, uh, like Time Crisis right here and we'll put another House of the Dead on top of it. It's fine. They'll never know the difference. Their room is pretty sweet. Yeah, fat stacks. Uh but like uh their pinball room is pretty great. They do have some great games there. They have all the pinbods. They've got um God, that's a game. Oh my god, they made it what? Three times. Jack, what is it? Jackbot, Pinbot, Revenge of Pinbot. No, what's the There's another one, isn't there? Um it's Pinbot, Bride of Pinbot, and Son of Pinbot, which is like like also kind of like called Pinbot 3 or some [ __ ] They do need to get all the Stern games in a line. That is true. Um they have that at Logan. They have like a whole stern wall and they also have that at the new one here in Chicago Electric which is a lot of fun if you Logan has a lot of classics though too, right? I I feel like it's great that when an arcade does a diversity Yeah. Logan's my mecca. Like there's a reason I go there um all the time because uh before I started streaming there is if you want to get real cuz like a lot of the the arcades here in Chicago are like bars with an arcade theme. Logan is a arcade that has a bar in it. So, it's like we are arcade first over there. Um, but they are a Stern bar. So, you're gonna see a lot of Stern games there. But, if you want to see what the newest ones, always get that. They don't have a lot of spooky. I don't think they have any spooky right now or um any uh barrels of fire. It's a bummer they don't have Labyrinth. I'm still mad about that. I feel like a lot of that is because some of the spooky games are inconsistent when on location that they have some sort of malfunction which makes it difficult for operators to have them going. There's no shade on Spooky. It's just they work better as home use games just because they're not getting the mileage that that a game, you know, is. Our Our Evil Dead was broken until like immediately. I guess the drop targets weren't resetting and stuff, but uh I don't know. Their games have come a long way. It's true. Well, and there, you know, the the thing is like Stern has so many old dogs from the day that work there from like the original like Midway guys that are there and have had a lot of experience. So, and then you get like Jersey Jack, which is Steve Ritchie, who's like I said, he's like Steve Steven Spielberg. They have him now. And like having all of those guys working on your games, you're going to get some really cool innovations. But if you're new and you're scrappy, you don't have that like legacy going on around you. So, I can understand how a lot of these new guys are like having an is the But like Jack Danger, let's talk about Jack for a second, man. Yeah, man. He's local. Stern took a risk and brought him in and started making some innovations on games. You know, you talk about Gary Stern on record for saying that he doesn't want to do wide bodies and he likes the Italian flipper layout and finally there's a game that doesn't do that. And uh the game flow is amazing, but the code just it's taken forever. If I bought an uncanny X-Men, I would be super frustrated that there wasn't code out now at this point after [ __ ] year. I wish Jack was here. He lives out in the BB, so I never get to hang out with him enough, but he does come through Logan sometimes and we do get really technical about it. Um, but he'd much rather just get wasted and talk about movies. Um, but which is fine. I'm sure that the last thing you do when you go out of work is talk about pinball more. But it's like it's weird because like uh when Foo Fighters came out, there was so many different like things that he did flow-wise that I was like, I need to see more of this. And like it's much in the way that like when Godzilla first came out where I'm like, oh, this is a different kind of board. I like that. Um, and he brought that with X-Men. I thought X-Men wasn't getting nearly enough love. I love that game. I love that the uh the mutated third uh like ramp area on the left side. I think that's really smart cuz he's like the king of misdirection when it comes to like loopy ball path. You can see I mean I think uh Elwin clearly took inspiration of that cuz that one like uh it's above I'm looking over here cuz I got a Kong over here. Uh that one shot that's like right next to the biplane ramp kind of does a Jack Danger kind of loop-de-loop. Yeah. Mhm. Well, it's because they're learning that like the innovation in pinball is going to be flow. Um the only other thing that I've seen that I think is the future is that P3 stuff where it's like the board itself can be digital while the rest of it is all mechanical. Really? You think the future is multimmorphic style? Like hybridizing a playfield into the screen into the playfield? the new the new Portal game is pretty dope to look at and I'm like you're still getting a mechanical vibe. You're not messing with it and then the floor is like a little bit of haptics and that's it. Like you can't like digital pinball is not going to happen and it's because it's just not pinball. But if you do like Oh no. Whoa, Whoa, whoa. We support digital pin. This is a safe space for digital pinball. Space would be an amazing digital pinball game. That's true. Well, it is a digital. I mean I mean like if they if they turn it into a real pin. No, no. Hear me out. I think that if you can like I have a buddy who makes homebrew digitals at home and I think they're really fun and that's great for parties, but if we're doing like the real deal, I can I just I just don't see this. I don't see that. I don't see that being the future of pinball. But like the future I think is going to be like a meld is what I But at the same token, you could say that the legacy of what pinball is is the like physical box and stuff, right? So, now putting an LCD screen into the play field, like you could argue that that's actually defeating the purpose of of pinball in its own right. I mean, putting an LCD screen in it was kind of sacrilege. I still prefer games with DMDs. I don't think that most companies with the exception of Jersey Jack have really brought it when it comes to like motion graphics and they're getting like Jersey Jack is so pretty. And yes, I agree. Nuclear Black, it is the the thing that's keeping Pinball from reaching the masses is too expensive. Um, but they just did that that new thing at Costco. Jack Danger worked on it. The JF portable one homerew is actually really [ __ ] dope. And I thought they nailed it. Um, I was surprised because like a lot of those like like affordable ones aren't exactly like giving you the joy. It's like it's fun to have, but it's not necessarily fun to play. But what they're doing with Costco right now is really fun. I think they're doing something special. It's still mechanical and it's mildly affordable. Have you heard about the Alice uh Wonderland Amusements game that they're they're coming out with? Yeah. Yeah. I I don't think that's going to do well at all. And I don't weird IP. It's a weird IP. And this isn't because I don't want them to be successful. It's just that when people are expecting pinball, like the pinball experience, right? and then you remove the quality of that down to a affordable cost, you're going to get a frustrating pinball experience and people are going to be like, "This isn't as fun as pinball." And there's no way to avoid that. I don't think like I don't think there's anything wrong with having pinball just be its thing and then you have to go to a place to do it. I think that that's fun. Like it's just like having like a really kick-ass movie theater. Like I think going to a movie theater is dope, especially if like you haven't been in a while. And like playing pinball in the real is super great. But I get it. Home Home brerews are going to be different. Home experiences are going to be different. Home consoles are going to be different. Playing [ __ ] Killer Instinct on an NS an SNES is different than playing in the arcade. I get it. But I don't think that's the future. I think if we're talking like the actual industry, I think right now what I've been seeing with these like multimorphic boards, I think might it has potential to be cool, but like I think it's going to take a main pinball manufacturer to adopt that before it happens. I don't know because like I don't know what else you can do to pinball that you haven't already done to bring it into the quote unquote future. I'm like I don't know. It's kind of perfect as it is. Like what more do you need? And you kind of mess with it. Then what? Like holograms? We tried that. It's not as cool as you think. I mean Stern had a bunch of those cool like marquee scrolling signs and the like whole white star in the dark era of Stern. We could bring that back. Let's make make mares great again. You know what I mean? Like just scroll it, right? Yeah. Please, please confuse people and give several seizures. It's fine. Uh what was the other one? There was cuz like I'm playing um cuz Antarium, which by the way, that's in Shamberg. It's a dope place. Um we did a stream out of there not too long. That's where they had the umpa women's, I believe. Right. Yes, they had the finals there. Um, they have a really kick-ass pinball room with some like classics there, like like vintage 70s, couple solid states. That's pretty sweet. But they do have a lot of Jersey Jack and I got to play Elton John, which might be my favorite game of the year so far or last year. I think it was last year, right? Yeah, it's super fun. I do like everything I've played so far. Like I think D and D is a lot of fun. It's not a fun tournament game, but it's a fun like like single player experience. Okay. Okay. Shots fired apparently. I enjoy that. That game's That game's got a history on my stream. So, does it uh my D and D is in the other room as a giant light and it's currently not even it doesn't even have a it doesn't even have a motherboard in it right now cuz it's keeping my King Kong alive. Uh yeah, I think the code updates are going to take it someplace. But anyways, let's move on from D and D. We're going to keep it positive. What? Uh, yeah. Well, I'm sure everybody that watches my channel is so sick of me here talking about D and D. So, uh, I'm amazed at your uh, uh, knowledge of pinball in general, especially as a bird that's only been around for 19 years or I forget how old you are. Uh, from the classics that you've played, let's talk classics. What are what are like your three favorite classic games? Anything that's like before LCD screens? Oh, well, uh, Radical, that's a that's a definite fave. Um, they have that at Logan. I I crushed that. I had a high score for a little while. Another game that has awesome flow and weird ball paths. Feels like Jack Danger made that. Steve Ritchie, man. Steve Ritchie from the day. Uh, Master of Flow, as he is known. Um, and then, uh, you know what's a sleeper? Shack. What? The Shack. That's a great game. Um, and Johnny Pneumonic is another one. Terrible film. Great game. Yeah. No, good shout out. Johnny Pneumonic is awesome. that and Demo Man are like two of the like under underdogs of that appreciates. Also, okay, if we're doing ones that are like super old school that don't even have like moving graphics, Robocop, if you haven't slammed the Robocop 82 83, I think I can't remember. That's a Data East one. Uh, check that one out. It's a lot of fun and it's got great haptics even for like a like an 80s game or like early 90s game. Speaking Speaking of Robocop, did you see the uh fan-made remake where they did like uh every single person got a scene to do from it? So, it's like a collection of scenes. Do you know what I'm talking about? I don't want to see uh Fatal Fatal Frame, which is a company in Los Angeles, did one of the sections where he like stops this like assault in an alleyway and it's like it's like 2 minutes straight of exploding genitals. Uh I highly recommend it. Yeah, it's good stuff. Uh, I believe it is on YouTube. It's not It's not Steve Ritchie. It's Dan Stephen Lang Stephen Lang or Langa. Yeah, we need we need Johnny Crap on here to get the pronunciation correct again. I not only did I horribly mess up his pronunciation, but uh he pronounced turquoise different. And uh and now I believe I'm a believer. It's It's turquoise. It's turquoise. Uh Turquoa. I'm trying to think what else. I know that Steve Ritchie is um he's got um all of the Dark Knight uh the Black Knight games um and he's got a what is the one that he has that everybody freaks out about the Steve Ritchie? What's that big one that I'm trying to think of that's back in the 70s? Um hang on. I'm trying to remember. Give me a minute. Everybody chill out. Highspeed one, right? Isn't he maybe Highspeed? Is that the one I'm thinking of? Space Shuttle 2. F14 Tomcat. He did. Taxi. That's the one I'm thinking of is Taxi. [ __ ] Taxi. Taxi is a banger. Taxi's got that like double ramp scenario like Fishtails does. Yeah. Oh, Fish Tales. If only they had Fish Tales. I love that game. That's so much fun. Uh I played it at uh they have a really good one at a game terminal in Tennessee. They have like a pretty one. That's the one that is like off of a pinball dealership. So, they have a really great pinball room. It's huge. Um, and they have like a pristine fish tales. Like it looks like it just came out of the box. Isn't that so satisfying when you like roll up to like an on location place and they just have some game that's in such perfect condition. You're like, "How the hell did this even happen?" Uh, we had they did a a widebody wall at onilt for our finals like whatever a couple months ago. And they had they had a big they had a big game. They had a hot dog in and they had a cheetah. And all of them had new old stock original playfields and they looked brand new like they had just shipped off the line and that was like wow good stuff. Um yeah, you're right. Nuclear Black Mark Rich it's Mark Ritchie his brother did Taxi but Steve Ritchie did the call outs for that. So that's why I keep thinking it's him. But But also that's a Python Anghelo game which is a whole other documentary that should be made. Python Anghelo. Do you know about Python Anghelo? I don't. What's the What's the cliffotes with the Chad notes? Python Anghelo does he's an artist. He did a lot of art, a lot of backlash art. He did the art for Bad Cats. Like that's his most famous, I think. But he did the art for um Oh [ __ ] Uh Taxi for sure cuz he does he does like a lot of like hidden like Easter eggs. He did Pinball Circus. He did Fish Tales. He did Cyclone, Pinbot. Like he is a I'm guessing he did Whirlwind too cuz that's similar art. I think he did I don't remember off the top of my head. I know he did highspeed um but he did do um he has the um the distinct honor of Zingy Bingy. There it is. Thank you. I knew somebody in the chat would get it. Zingy Bingy is a his Python Angela's um prototype that never got made. I'll let you figure out why. It was a porn themed pinball game and it was the last thing he did before he passed away. Uh and it was one of the stories of like he came in, brought it out and the entire room was like no. And he's like, "But wait, hear me out." And they were like, "Hold on, hold on. Uh, if you ever want to go on a journey, look up Zingy Bingy. That's a wild time." Man, that's so sad to have passed away and have that be your legacy. That's almost like having like a barbecue game come out and like then dying and have that be your legacy, you know? Shots fired. Um, but yeah. Yeah, look up Python Anghelo. This is a wild time. The guy that owns Logan Arcade, uh, Zespie knew him back in the day and he's got crazy stories about him. He's like like a rockstar. Uh like just just crazy dude that had all these like wild ideas. But yeah, a lot of famous old pinball. That's like that's Python Anghelo, man. I feel like pinball wouldn't exist without a bunch of like crazy individuals that were willing to like push push it to make it happen. I mean, pinball shouldn't exist at all. It's literally this strange physical game that you do not need whatsoever. It's cumbersome. It's incredibly expensive. There's just zero. It makes no sense. It's true to be clear. He did not pass away until 2014. However, his last game was Zingy Bingy. Um, well, the last one that he did that came out was Flipper Football. Penis Flippers. Wow. Imagine if you had if you put banana flippers on that, you know, he launched it in like 94, I think, cuz Pinball Circus was his last like really big one. At least I think that's true. But I'm sure someone will correct me. So, I have an important question that I forgot to ask last time on stream. Um, and it's kind of a I know that space is limited in your bird home, but uh I kind of postulate out of these three games, you know, which one would you like to add to your collection? Which one? What do you mean? First one is Raven. If you could have any of these games, what game would I want to have in my collection? Correct. Yeah. So, Raven. He did not do Circus Volater, but he is. I mean, that's a great game. Sorry. Go ahead. It's okay. Second game is also Raven. Raven and Raven. Yeah. And the third one's also Raven. H. Let me think. Um. Oh, you really you really put you really put me on the spot here. Um, what is that is that like from like 80 something, right? Oh my god. Have you do you remember the back glass? It's like a a Commando. It's like it's like Commando, right? Yeah. Oh wow. Um, let's see. Oh, come on. It's like one of It's a It's a bird theme pinball machine. It's called Raven, but it's not though. It's like a It's like a knockoff Commando Red Sonia connection thing cuz it's like it's dope, don't get me wrong. But when it comes to bird theme pinball, I'm going to go dinosaur. I'm gonna go ancient birds. I'm gonna go um the JP is pretty great. I'm a big fan of the new um if I'm going to do um if I'm going to do like a classic like from the 80s um and maybe even before. You know what game [ __ ] rocks? '7s Kiss. Oh, that's a Yeah. Yeah. The The array on the bottom. We'll do we'll do a secondary followup that will actually that you'll be able to do legitimate games for this. One of my first posts I put on Reddit as uh uh Dirty Pool way back in the day is I did a MFK. I was like, "Mary, [ __ ] kill pinball. John Papa games. What's it going to be?" And And Reddit just like ripped me apart. They were like, "The [ __ ] you pinball doesn't need this." Blah, Blah, blah. And then like a month ago, Kineticist did it. Someone else was doing it, and it like blew up on social media. I'm like, man, come on. So, on that note, Mary, [ __ ] kill pinball. Take it away. Okay, let's dance. Let's dance. Um, well, are you going to give me the three? Are chat, do you have any in there? Uh, you going to give me the three? You want me to give you the three? No, I'm saying you can pick any game you want, any time period. Merry [ __ ] kill. I'm gonna kill um Oh, wow. We just did this not too long ago on the stream, like a game that you absolutely hate. And I'm like, I don't know if I have one cuz they're all fun in their own way. And I know that's I say there's no bad games. There's just games you'll own and games you don't want to own. Right. Right. I'm going to kill John Wick cuz [ __ ] you. Uh, good choice. I'm gonna I'm gonna [ __ ] uh the I'm going to [ __ ] the actual hell out of the Adams family pinball because that she need she'd take down a peg and then I'm going to marry um I'm going to marry Elvra House of Horrors. Okay. Weird that that I mean great choices by the way, but it's also funny that I feel like Elvra as like an IP has been blessed by the pinball gods. Like name a bad Alvivra game. No, you can't. All three of them are great, right? Uh but I love House of Horrors just because it's such a cool and I'm also like a big horror movie freak. So like it it just it's both of them in one moment. I know Monster Bash is also horror themed. I do love that game, but Alvara House of Horrors, I could just I could live in that machine. Like I could open it up and live inside and be happy. Uh we just got in the chat, Medieval Madness, Attack from Mars, Cactus Canyon. Is that Mary [ __ ] kill you'd marry Medieval Madness? [ __ ] Attack from Mars. murder Cactus Canyon. Cactus Canyon's killing itself. Heard it anymore. Well, no. When that expansion comes out, I feel like Cactus Canyon is going to be a whole new game. Someday, a million years in the future. Call me when I'm older. Uh, not Fire Chat. Also, if you got questions, Tyler's like, "We're streaming to four viewers, man. That's all on YouTube. We got a party going on at Twitch." Uh, over to Twitch. We're stay on YouTube. [ __ ] them. Who cares? We don't need quality. We don't We need quality, not quantity. I'm on YouTube. Come follow me. Come follow me, guys. We're doing a stream this Thursday uh at 8 PM from Logan. So, um I will not only just Logan, you're also your you're comedy. You got one coming up tonight, don't you? Yep. At 6 o'clock. So, every week I'll post whatever the report I got is signed that week was. And uh this week was from last Saturday. I don't want to spoil it, but it is about cheese. And um and then like I'll also stream live at uh from Logan. So yeah, those are the two things we do right now. If you haven't seen the Logan arcade uh chat is lit streams, you're absolutely missing out. It's It's a party. It's hazing. It's everything that you would want from a pinball broadcast. It's getting crazier. Uh Lord of the Rings is a good one. Yeah, I like that one. It's true. As long as there I have probably one of the best condition ones I could possibly find and just replace the driver board, so hopefully now it won't actually break again. Ask Joe about my constant fight with getting it to work. Uh, Sign Out says, "Pinball machine or pinball table?" Okay, I actually asked this question. I went to Stern. Uh, brag. I went to Stern uh last month or two months ago, whenever [ __ ] Kong came out. I think it was last month. Um, and we were hanging out at the factory. Got to check it out. It's a really cool place. It's like Willy Wonka meets Office Space. It's like an Office Max Willy Wonka pinball experience. And I was talking to Dwight Sullivan, Chuck Ernst, and Brian Eddy. Brian Eddy, mid Medieval Madness, Attack from Mars. Uh, Strange. Oh, don't forget Dungeons and Dragons. Dungeons and Dragons. I wasn't forgetting cuz that was why I was there was to chat with them about that one. Um, they're that was very lovely cuz they're big D and D nerds and that was fun. But anyway, I asked them in the middle of and you can hear this on my birdcast if you go to um the link that I'm sure I'll send you. Chad, tell me that so I can post it. Chad the birdcast. Uh if you go there, you will listen. There's an episode where I interview all three of them and I asked them that question because I was like, I have been told it's pinball table and then I've been told it was called pinball machine. And they said to me, if you want to sound bougie, you can say pinball table. But nobody in the industry says that. So I was like, "Okay." Okay. All right. Come on, camera. Why are you making me all blurry? The camera's like It wanted to show off Lord of the Rings is really what it is. It's a game that you despise that most people love. Jaws said it. I hate you. Yeah, I know. That's what the point of the question was. I cannot believe that you would utter these words. Hold on. I have a I have a solution. I have a solution for this. Hold on. Bye. Okay. I just made Chad go away. Everybody. Yeah. So Chad Chad couldn't make the stream anymore because he likes bad. All right. All right. All right. Fine. You can come back. James Bond 007's a good one. I got to play the like the 60th anniversary one that Keith Owen did. That one's super fun. I hate that they did it so limited run, but for essentially a single level playfield that's emulating classic games. It's It's amazing. It's great. It's so much fun. Um and then the who song says table. That's true. They do. I guess it I didn't realize this was such a contextual like pro like Ian asked me the same thing. Uh Ian from Nudge, we did a thing and he was like, "Pinball table or pinball machine." And I was like, "Yeah, Ian is super cool." But shout out to Nudge magazine, by the way. Uh I was like, "What are you talking about? It's like it's pinball machine." Like I've never heard anybody refer to it as pinball table. I didn't even know what he was talking about. So I didn't realize this was such a Yeah, pinball people like to argue apparently. I don't know if you knew that really about No, but yeah. Seriously, it was like a thing. I asked like what is it? They're like, "You both are correct, but like one just sounds bougier than the other." And I was like, "Okay, good use of the word bougie." Yeah. So, you do you prefer table or machine? Are you a bougie bird? I'm a bougie bird, but I go back and forth. It depends on what we're doing. Your DND is currently a pinball table. It's because it literally is not a functioning pinball machine is is what Johnny Button is referring to, which I found out, by the way, it's not Johnny Button, it's Johnny Btn. And then I had to explain that Tennessee Tennessee needs to be capitalized in order to be identified as a state. This is a him problem, not not me. Uh Tommy Tommy Lazarus says, "What is a game I hate that I absolutely love now?" Uh Venom. I didn't like, you know, that grew on me too and I now like really dig. It's like oops all ramps, but I do love it. I'm into it once you get that once you get it going. It's it it's very satisfying. I did read some place that uh I forget what it was, but it was something about how like you have to be an absolute psychopath to like venom over Jaws. It was something like that. Like you have to be an absolute idiot. I have been tested for psychopathy. I just might be insane. Oh, wait. Oh, there was another one. Oh, flippers. Some people have another word for flippers, which I don't remember what it is off the top of my head. Oh, it's twiddly sticks. Twiddly sticks or something. There's another word for it, but I'm like, "No, that'll never happen." Maybe chat knows. I've never heard anything. Oh, bats. It's flipper bats. bats. Yeah, bats. Yeah, somebody said bats. And it was Gary Stern that told me that. He was like, "Some people say bats." And I'm like, "I don't know if I agree with you, Gary." And then he walked away. I was like, "That was that was Gary Stern." What did I just say? Where did he go? I did Eddie. Yeah, I guess that's true. I embarrassed myself in front of Brian Eddy because I was telling him how Stranger Things is very reminiscent of the playing field from um the uh Attacks. the same game. And as I was talking to him, I realized, but you designed both of those and he probably already knew that. And I will see myself out now. And he laughed and makes fun of me to this day. That's hilarious. I mean, you could almost look at it as like a sequel to AFM cuz it's AFM with extra toys and then with a new theme slapped on it. Yeah, it feels but I don't care. It's Oh, paddles. That's another one. Oh, the one that I learned um jets. Jets term for pop bumpers, which is why in Monster Bash you hear somebody yell, "Hit the jets. when you're doing the thing. And I never knew what that meant until somebody told me those are what pop bumpers are. Also, Elton John, Johnny or Johnny and the Jets or whatever. I forget the name, but it's it's a that's a pop bumper joke. That's a pop bumper joke noise. Also, I know it's cleich and a little dar gear, but when you play Pinball Wizard while playing the Elton John pinball, it is pretty [ __ ] dope. So, there you go. Are you talking about on headphones? I feel like Pinball Wizard is already I I actually don't remember all of the songs that are in in Elton John cuz there's like a million. It's almost like Guns and Roses where you get to pick from like a list of like 30 [ __ ] songs. That game, man, that game could have been so much cooler. It is insane and loud, but I do not understand it at all. Why is it so loud? Oh my god, that's such a good point. So loud scared the [ __ ] out of me when I was like I looked around. I was like, look, I'm really sorry, but they're going to play the whole song right now, so everybody's just going to have to listen to this. I heard the bird has a brother called Flip the Bird. Is that true or just a rumor? We'll find out. Sign out. Sign out. Yeah. Hold on. Let me explain sign out real quick. Sign out's from Denmark and Denmark apparently loves puns and dad jokes. Everything that comes out of his mouth is a joke, which is usually amazing. I know he's making a big middle finger joke, by the way. That's flipping the bird. That's what he's talking about. I got it. Yeah, I know you got it. I'm doing it for the chat. You know, there might be some Reddit users in here, so we got to explain it for them. Uh it's going to start a forum. Yeah. Uh so yeah, Guns and Roses. So when I was playing it for the first time at Onel, this is a this is like a Korean barbecue. It's loud as [ __ ] in there. Like you already can't hear anything. And And I hit the button and like immediately, you know, like a like a scene from Saving Private Ryan. Like everything went silent and all I heard was like high-pitched ringing in my ears cuz I didn't realize that I had immediately gone deaf. Uh yeah, it was brutal. Uh, but it scared the [ __ ] out of me. And like nobody picks the game because it's too loud. It's just too damn loud. Oh [ __ ] It looks like my computer has 19% battery. So if we have That's okay. We've been talking for a while. Got to get to it. All right. So chat, put your final questions in here. Uh, the I think the one thing I did want to ask you is because your your YouTube talks so much about current events and human interaction. What is the most baffling human behavior that you believe as a bird that you've witnessed? Um, baffling thing that I'm just like, why are we doing this? Um, any kind of like like ATMs that confuses me. I understand why you do it, but you're just so bad at them. They take forever and they never work and some of them are scams. Um, also, uh, comment sections in videos. I get it. I don't get I think that is the the base. That's like the thing that's going to destroy your species. Like chat, I get chat. Chat is live. Comment section. Yeah. Comment section is just like leaving weird little limicks on a [ __ ] uh resttop bathroom. And I'm like, you don't need to. We're fine. But every now and then you get a little wisdom. Worms or larvae? Worms? Obviously. Using toilets as a guest. Well, it is weird to me cuz I'm like, I'm just going to go. I don't know why you have to make it a whole damn to-do. Aren't lava larva kind of like the fancy worms? Like, isn't that like the caviar of worms? That's bougie. I don't need that stuff. But you said earlier that you were a bougie bird. What? What it comes? And then earlier than that, you said you liked a pinball machine that was fully loaded like King Kong, but then you don't like Jaws because of that, Chad. Well, I don't I don't like the pro Jaws. We've discussed this. That's fair. That's fair. You're right. You're right. Look, I'll eat whatever is free, so I don't really give a [ __ ] Well, uh, I don't have I That's not free. Ask Pixelated Pinball is going to get a uh uh port portal. So, we were talking about multimmorphic. Uh, so I don't know if he has it yet, but uh I need to see. I love I think it looks really pretty. Why come is it that birds are always pooping on cars? Cuz you're parting you're parking in my [ __ ] spot. That's why. Park elsewhere. Won't have a problem with it. Also, don't wash your cars. It's a dead giveaway. That's poetry. I never thought about that. That really every parking lane is just That's the bathroom for birds. We're disrespecting your body. Yeah. Don't be weird, man. What do you do for bathroom? Does Logan have like a bird bathroom? Do you How do you go? Um whenever I need to. It's just outside. Do you wear like bird diapers? Is there like depens for birds? No, man. I have respect for myself. I'm going to live my life naturally. If you don't like it, get out of my way. I'll park in your way. Don't get at it. Just get up. Stop it. Focus on me. There we go. We're good. You just got to flail. Cameras respect you when you flail around. Yeah. I look for your car for shenest sheen. It's true. He's not going to find your car. What? Well, remember, actually, I take that back because according to you, your car has spinny rims, cans tied to it, ground effects on it. Like, it sounds like you have one [ __ ] and ride. Ah, well, I have to get around Joshua Clay pigeons or real Joshua Clay or real pigeons. Real pigeons. Duh. Depends on what we're doing though. I'll figure that one out. Would a Joshua Clay pigeon be kind of like a sex doll equivalent? Like to you? Not to me. I mean, it doesn't resemble the pigeon though cuz Joshua Clay pigeons are just discs. And that if that's the case, then I don't know what to tell you. Yeah. Does that do you think that that's like a misinterpretation? Want a freak, man? Yeah, I guess. I guess. Like was were they like we need to make a pigeon sex toy but instead they messed up and made it a disc. Yeah, that's that's got to be why that happened that way. I don't get this one. Chad Krueger. Uh like Freddy Krueger. I don't know. In your dreams. That's terrifying. Your dreams. I don't know if this is an internet joke, I guess. So, GK Progy, explain your internet joke. But while we do that, I want to I want to shout out A huge thank you. Chad the bird is obviously way more important. I can't even believe you agreed to be on my silly podcast, but I I'm serious and I'm insanely grateful. Please take a moment before your battery dies. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Chad Kroger from Nickelback. D. Yes. Look at this graph. Solid, solid. Did I do a mean reference? I'm doing I'm doing this. Does the worm and dune trigger you? Archimedes wants to know. Yeah. Yeah. It's It's horny. I get horny as [ __ ] I want to eat the [ __ ] out of that thing. I'll eat that whole thing. That's a big worm. You would have like I'd ride the worm. Your diarrhea situation that you were talking about that woke up cars and and woke up dogs. Um but I'm I'm fine with it. It's all y'all's problem after that. It was a good ride. What about tequila? I always get the worm out of tequila. Come on now, dude. I ate this Mexican restaurant had uh dessert uh crickets. Not crickets, grasshoppers. And uh they're deep fried and we ate them. We ate them and they dude the juice. I was not prepared for the juice. They explode and they're juicy. Yeah, they are. It's mostly grease. Make Chad a second host. No, Chad's got tons of stuff going on. He doesn't want to be a second host. I'm the dirty poop. I'll come. All right, man. If you come if if you come to Los Angeles, you have to be on the stream, please. I'll We'll make it happen in time. Pinball. Pixelated. Pinball just says, "Woof. He's doggy like that. Pixelated Pinball only plays Galactic Tank Forest. That's the only game that he owns and the only game he screams. So really, you got to judge him for that. Bad, but it is. It's like funnel cake. You're like, it's not good for me, but I am having a good time. Yeah, I keep picking away at it. Jeff Hoover, who plays the the doctor in the game, is uh he's a host on WGN. He's a newscaster, and I got to run into him a few times, and I got to play with you. Go on my Instagram, you'll see pictures. Amazing. which you should check out, which is what I'm trying to get out. Please plug everything. Not that my viewers are, you already know you probably, but please take it away. What do you got going on, Chad? Um, okay. On Thursday on my YouTube, we're streaming a Chad Gets Lit. Come check it out. 8 till midnight. We go all night. It's stupid. You're going to have a great time. I'm not going to tell you what the game is cuz that's half of the fun, but let's say we have mentioned it tonight. Um, and follow me on Instagram and Tik Tok because, you know, I put it out there. You should watch it. And then if you're in Chicago on Saturdays at the Green Mill, that's where I am, 3:00, get there early. And then I'll be at uh Lincoln Lodge for class on June 25th. And if you're in lower Illinois, I'll be live at Blue Island Beer Co. on June 22nd with Bill Lin. I'm going to be at the Columbus Comedy Fest. Go to chadthe.com, check out the events. I'm around. Come follow me. There you have it. And if you seriously haven't seen any of us stand up uh from the [ __ ] uh oh my god, I'm totally blanking on the name of your main spot that you do your [ __ ] at. Paper-made papermâché. If you can make it out to papier-mâché, I would love to see you live. But it seems you're so amazing. Your energy, your delivery, your your voice is so smooth and sexy in the most wonderful way. You should go check them out. Check out the YouTube. If you want to just listen to my voice while you're driving, I do have a birdcast. You can check that out as well. There you go. Also, Dirty Pool, when you get to Chicago for Pinball Expo, we need to talk cuz you need to be on the thing. We're going to make it a thing. I want to be on the thing. I think that would be amazing. I would love to come on. Yes. Pinball collaboration. Yeah. Well, thank you for having me on. This is going to disappear in a minute cuz it's giving me that your computer's going to die. And I'm like, well, I didn't know how to plug it in, dumbass. I'm charging. bird. You can't Yeah, I don't You can't expect to know how to use technology. Johnny, if you really want the good stuff, you got to go to Pequads. But anyway, okay. Well, okay. We'll talk about this later, but I need to know pizza recommendation because, you know, I can't go to Chicago without getting some deep dish. Okay. If you're going to do deep dish, you got to go to Peekquads. If you want to do tavern style like the rest of us, Dagustinos is great. If you want to do floppy New York stuff, GMs, those are No, I I lived in New York forever. I I every time. Yeah, the New York's for New York pizza. I want to eat Chicago pizza. Yeah, you're right. Gino's close to where you're going to be. Goss is great. If you're doing tavern style, you really can't go wrong in the city. But if you're going to do deep dish, there's only one answer, and that's Peekquats. Tavern style sounds good. I love burnt cheese. So, you know, ah, it's delicious. Now I'm all hungry. Uh, all right. The last thing we do on the channel is we raid somebody. We try to find someone who's got like one or two viewers and just make their day and jump a bunch of people in there. So, uh, if you are watching on Twitch, hang out and stand by cuz we're going to go do that right now. Uh, thank you again everybody watching. Go check out Chad and all of Chad's things. See you guys play some ball. I'll talk to you later. Bye. I actually don't know how to leave. I think you have to kick. Do you kick me out or do I just leave? Heat. Heat.