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Hardy Live: Let's Talk Pinball while I Drink!

Cary Hardy YouTube Live Streams·video·1h 32m·analyzed·Nov 7, 2025
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TL;DR

Carrie Hardy critiques Stern's Walking Dead colors, celebrates Beetlejuice voice tech, warns of spec-flipping.

Summary

Carrie Hardy hosts an impromptu live stream discussing recent pinball industry developments, focusing on Stern's Walking Dead remaster color palette criticism, Spooky's Beetlejuice voice activation feature reveal, secondary market spot-flipping for Beetlejuice, and her decision to sell King Kong LE due to perceived poor value. She emphasizes theme-appropriate aesthetic choices and compares manufacturer offerings.

Key Claims

  • Walking Dead remaster has a color palette that disconnects from the show's gritty, dark aesthetic and appears too bright/colorful for the theme

    high confidence · Carrie Hardy criticizing the Walking Dead remaster color choices, comparing to original game and fan-created darker alternative by Frank Mack

  • Beetlejuice sold out before official announcement and this is a first-time occurrence requiring manufacturer policy changes for next title

    high confidence · Carrie Hardy discussing Beetlejuice pre-announcement sellout and noting distributors' allotments are gone; planning for future distribution changes

  • Beetlejuice reservation slots are being flipped for $3,000-$5,000 above the $2,000 deposit on the secondary market

    high confidence · Multiple chat participants reporting seeing Winchester and Beetlejuice spots listed for $3,000-$5,000 premiums on Pinside; Zach on Flippin' Out podcast mentioned similar flipping

  • King Kong LE is the worst LE Stern has ever produced in terms of value and execution

    medium confidence · Carrie Hardy's stated opinion after selling her King Kong machine, citing poor return on investment compared to other manufacturers

  • Walking Dead color palette may have been mandated by AMC licensing approval

    medium confidence · Carrie Hardy speculating that bright colors were either AMC requirement or license holder influence, noting Stern's tendency to blame licensors for design decisions

  • Spooky Speak (voice activation in Beetlejuice) includes Easter eggs that will be revealed through updates and player discovery

    medium confidence · Spooky Luke in chat confirming intentional hidden voice commands to be discovered by players; audio demo played showing basic activation

Notable Quotes

  • “What happened here? There seems to be a disconnect between there...if I didn't watch the show and I just enjoyed the game, probably wouldn't affect me very much. But since at one point in time, I was very into The Walking Dead. And the first game that looked like they nailed it aesthetically with it being a very gritty, dark, bloody type of game. And then they come out with this one, and it's all rainbows and butterflies.”

    Carrie Hardy@ 15:10 — Core criticism of Walking Dead remaster color direction and thematic disconnect

  • “It's not that it was a bad shooter. It shot fine. But I was more excited about getting another game that I wanted to play. At a certain point in time, I'm just like, I think I'm done with King Kong.”

    Carrie Hardy@ 34:09 — Explains rationale for selling King Kong despite functional gameplay, emphasizing value perception and collection curation

  • “I don't hate King Kong...I believe that the King Kong LE is the worst LE that Stern Pinball has ever put together.”

    Carrie Hardy@ 32:56 — Specific, memorable criticism positioning King Kong LE as lowest-value Stern release to date

  • “People are going to try to have all different types of conversations...I think we tell some and also hide a ton to be discovered.”

    Spooky Luke@ 25:21 — Designer confirming intentional Easter egg structure in Spooky Speak voice activation system

  • “I'm sure they've got plans in place to...make it a little more in order...I guess people have the opportunity to buy some show games.”

    Carrie Hardy@ 31:07 — Acknowledging Spooky's learning curve from unexpected pre-announcement sellout and planning corrective measures

Entities

Carrie HardypersonSpooky LukepersonBen HeckpersonChristopher FranchipersonKanedapersonDavid ThielpersonStern PinballcompanySpooky Pinballcompany

Signals

  • ?

    business_signal: Stern LE pricing and value differentiation questioned; Hardy expresses reluctance to purchase future Stern LEs until value proposition improves relative to competition (Spooky)

    medium · Hardy: 'I sure as hell am not going to get another LE [from Stern]...until they change something to make it to where I feel like I am getting something special...getting my bang for my buck'

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Hardy receives significant negative feedback for critical opinions on pinball games and design, particularly from passionate collectors/fans defending specific designers, themes, or manufacturers

    high · Hardy: 'Yeah, oh, yeah, it's there [hate]...people do not like what they don't want to hear...emotions take over...portion of the brain that says yeah to each their own just shuts off'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Walking Dead remaster color palette fundamentally misaligned with theme; excessively bright and colorful versus original gritty, dark aesthetic; Hardy and community members question thematic coherence

    high · Hardy: 'What happened here? There seems to be a disconnect...it's all rainbows and butterflies' vs. original 'very gritty, dark, bloody'; Frank Mack's fan redesign shown as more on-theme; 100+ community comments in Hardy's post preferring darker palette

  • ?

    licensing_signal: Walking Dead color palette possibly mandated by AMC licensing approval; Stern blamed for deferring to licensor on design decisions, following pattern seen with Wicked game

    medium · Hardy speculating: 'And that's what it comes down to in the end is that you've got to make the license holder happy...If that is the fact that they chose more color, then I really question the executives over there at AMC'

Transcript

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0:00
Hello. Thank you. That's when you get the negative feedback, because you don't agree with how they think. turns out stern was like gotcha bitch i just i'm trying to wrap my head around this maybe they've learned something from every game and this time it'll be different what i gotta show everybody my wiener it's my wiener I mean, it's basically a Led Zeppelin jukebox with flippers. The game is going to sell. He just did a mic drop and then walked the hell out of the room. That's big dick energy if I've ever seen it. It's pinball. It shouldn't be too serious. I mean, if you take pinball to a serious level, you get the godfather.
3:43
Lie back down. I know I'm going to get some hate from those of you out there that are probably doing it, but that's what it is. The back glass says Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles right there at the top and four inches up. If that, the title's there again. That makes no sense. And I mean, what's concerning to me is that through the whole build process, no one brought it up that, hey, maybe we should make this a little bit better. No one mentioned it. We believe this idea to be the best course of action for us and for you. but mainly because it's going to cost us nothing. You need to find out what these suckers will pay you for a crappy product that your toddler drew for us. She draws on a first grade level. And the thing is, I know one of the people over social media has informed me that a lot of the times, at least as of three years ago, majority of the things that I would post or say to them was blocked. Why are you promoting and asking for deposits on a game that's still six months out?
5:04
And we are live, ladies and jelly spoons. How is everyone this evening? this very, just like, just out of the blue. I was in the garage cleaning. I got tired of cleaning, so I was like, screw it. We'll do it live. We'll go live. Straight from things. Right out of the gate with the $2. I'm enjoying water over Diet Pepsi. How about you? Tonight, I am drinking. Let me get that out of the screen. I have got my North Coast Rasputin. This is one of my favorite scouts. For those of you that have never tried this, I do recommend it, especially if you like stouts. If you don't like stouts, you're going to hate this. But, like, this is a really good stout. I want to say it's, yeah, 9%. Very good. I love this thing.

  • “And I almost don't want to talk anymore about King Kong, honestly, because I started thinking about it because I don't like to lose money.”

    Carrie Hardy@ 34:51 — Emotional core of criticism: personal financial loss and regret driving narrative

  • “It's like I look at that and I go, if I didn't know The Walking Dead, it wouldn't affect me or I wouldn't care about it.”

    Carrie Hardy@ 14:52 — Frames criticism around IP authenticity rather than abstract aesthetic preference

    • Jersey Jack Pinball
    company
    Barrels of Funcompany
    Walking Dead (Stern remaster)game
    Beetlejuice (Spooky)game
    King Kong (Stern LE)game
    Harry Potter (Jersey Jack Pinball)game
    Winchester Mystery House (Barrels of Fun)game
    Evil Dead (Spooky)game
    AMCcompany
    Frank Mackperson
    Zach Minneyperson
    Pinsideorganization
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    market_signal: Beetlejuice pre-announcement sellout unprecedented in pinball industry; distributor allotments completely allocated before official launch; secondary market speculation with $3-5k spot premiums

    high · Hardy: 'This is the first time this has ever happened...sold out before it was even officially announced'; chat reports Winchester/Beetlejuice spots at $3-5k premiums on Pinside; Zach (Flippin' Out) confirming similar flipping

  • ?

    community_signal: Walking Dead remaster design process appears to have lacked internal design review; no Stern personnel flagged color palette mismatch during development despite being core creative concern

    medium · Hardy: 'And I mean, what's concerning to me is that through the whole build process, no one brought it up that, hey, maybe we should make this a little bit better'

  • ?

    personnel_signal: Christopher Franchi (Spooky Pinball artist) actively engaged in game feedback and design discussion during stream; texting Hardy about Spooky Speak content approval

    medium · Hardy: 'I got Franchi texting me now' during discussion of Spooky Speak audio sharing; Franchi's Walking Dead fan redesign artwork featured on Hardy's community page

  • ?

    product_concern: King Kong LE characterized as worst LE Stern has ever produced; poor value-to-cost ratio and aesthetic mismatch with collector standards; Hardy lost money on resale

    high · Hardy: 'King Kong LE is the worst LE that Stern Pinball has ever put together...very disappointed in the amount of money that I spent and what I got in return'; admitted financial loss motivating sale

  • ?

    product_strategy: Spooky planning distribution policy changes for next title following Beetlejuice pre-announcement sellout; intentional controls on distributor allocation and resale prevention being developed

    medium · Hardy: 'I believe that the next title they do like next year or whatever is going to be a little bit different on what distros can and cannot do...They've got plans in place'

  • ?

    technology_signal: Spooky Speak voice activation system in Beetlejuice includes intentional Easter eggs and hidden voice commands to be discovered through player experimentation and updates

    high · Spooky Luke: 'I think we tell some and also hide a ton to be discovered...People are going to try to have all different types of conversations'; audio demo showing basic activation ('Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Beetlejuice' trigger)

    • 5:54
    So along with me in the audio chat, I have my LE members. And if you are an LE member, by all means, then you need to check the Patreon LE member chat. and you too can join to discuss and talk about everything that's going on in pinball right now. So who do we have in chess? See, we have Franchi going on right now. I'm enjoying the nice frothy Dr. Pepper. How do you get a frothy Dr. Pepper? You know what? I don't want to know.
    6:21
    That just sounds weird. How did Stars Crew up Walking Dead so bad? Oh, we'll talk about that in a little bit. So currently in my Patreon LE member chat, I've got Damon. Hello, Damon. How are you? You there? Yeah, I'm good. We got Acker. He's one of the members that has not been on live before. He's usually asleep at this point in time, and he may fall asleep during this live stream. He's prone to doing so. What's going on, Acker? I hate Stouts, and I hate you. If you go to pinball at the beach, you will definitely see him there by all means. Sterling's here. Sterling, how's it going on, man?
    7:04
    Hey, how's it going, man? Thanks for having me. No problem, man. Adrian here. How's it going, Adrian?
    7:10
    Excellent, man. William. Everybody should know William by now. He's in my Haggis video series that I did, episode one.
    7:21
    Poor guy. Going great, man. Thanks for the invite. No problem. Oh, man. All right. So, literally, like I said, this was impromptu, so we are going to talk about whatever you guys want to talk about. And something that I'm guessing that not everybody is savvy to, there was another Beetlejuice. I don't want to call it a leak, but I guess we can. It was a little bit of a leak, meaning it was a sneak peek at what this game has in store for all of us. And it was shared originally on Kaneda's Pinball Podcast on his Patreon. And, of course, you've got a lot of people out there that do not and will not pay for content. I'm not judging you on that. That's your right. But currently it's still behind the paywall, but it has since been leaked out in other means by someone doing screen recordings. But what I'm going to do, and not worrisome about having to do, like, steal someone else's content, is I actually have the other version of essentially the same thing that I will play the audio for you during the stream at one point in case you have not heard that. But it's basically going to give you an idea of how the spooky speak works.
    8:37
    So, Gary, have any insights for us? You know, I keep forgetting that he's back here, and I keep, like, getting out of my peripheral that he's there, and I have to, like, go, who the hell? I think the wife is, like, looking over my shoulder or something.
    8:54
    Oh, we got Spooky Luke in the house going on here, too. Yeah, Luke, what I'm going to do is I figure I'll share the audio of the video that you sent me, like, a good while ago. Basically the same thing that Bug shared. So it's technically, you know, mine, and it's the same thing that Bug had. So it shouldn't be giving anything away that hasn't been shared to the public as it is. So, all right. Clickbait. Why are you saying clickbait, Frenchie? Why does your name say 7722 now? Is that something different? Am I seeing, why is it showing like a bunch of, okay, I guess it's different now on what YouTube is doing.
    9:39
    anyway so what is the first topic uh patrons you have anything that you want to discuss first by chance i did want to know i know this sounds a little whatever uh the dot matrix display in that video right at first i thought you were picking it apart but you know and i was like i bought my color dot matrix for uh different games so i'm talking about the walking dead the walking dead advertisement it had the dot matrix and the color i thought that was made and put together by a different company than stern themselves i bought the terminator 2 dot matrix display and as i understand it somebody went through and hand colored every dot so when i heard you pointing out that they use the color i was like don't you need to give um an artist credit and all that that might be picky and all but you know what i'm saying like uh that was my point whenever i pointed it out that they were showing the differences between the old school OG, the Walking Dead, versus what they've done. And it's like, okay, you're doing what Color DMD did. You're not doing what you guys did. Honestly, it's doing themselves a disservice by also promoting a product. So I guess Randy over there at Color DMD, I should text him or call him and be like, hey, man, how do you feel about Stern promoting your product, showing off what it can do kind of thing, because that's what essentially it did. But, yeah, it was showing off the color DMD versus what the new animations are. Okay. I mean, but I think you should show what the original game was and what you've done on top of that.
    11:21
    So I get when even people were, well, not people. You had clearly mentioned I hadn't even seen it in person. So when talking about the colors of the game, you know, it's hard to make those judgments. And when I heard you starting to talk about them using the color, it's like I can see you're like, is this even worth calling out? But I thought about it for a little bit, too. And I was at first, I was like, okay, you know, interesting choice. But then I was like, you know, somebody went through and colored each individual dot. I feel like, you know, that's a lot more interesting than just using it. I don't know. I don't want to be petty about it, but it is interesting the more I thought about it. Like I said, it wasn't like, you know, I was hating on it. I didn't even really hate on the game today either. And this is something that I guess I can touch base with a little bit on here. And there are people out there that are like, oh, Kerry, do you get much hate for your content or things that you discuss on your channel? And I'm like, oh, yeah.
    12:20
    Oh, yeah, it's there. And they don't understand why. And I'm like, well, if you think about it, it's the same thing on a lot of different topics, whether it be religion or politics. And it's the same thing for pinball. What it comes down to is that people do not like what they don't want to hear. And a lot of us are very passionate about this hobby, and a lot of us are passionate about certain games, certain designers, certain artists, certain themes that people are doing. There's a lot of passion behind that. And for someone to, like myself, to criticize or talk negatively about something, then those people immediately turn to negative responses about it. It's like the portion of the brain that says, like, yeah, to each their own or whatever kind of thing just shuts off and emotions take over kind of thing. And, yeah, that's the thing is that when it comes to the comments section on my videos and everything, like, yeah, you have the rights to say what you want to say. Hey, that's fine. I don't ever want to say that you can't say that I'm wrong. By all means, if I'm wrong, tell me. Stringer with another $2 huge shout-out to American Pinball. Thanks for the $2 there, Stringer. Yeah, I eventually want to ask about the Galactic Tank Force in the background, Adrian. But first, while we're still on the topic, can you compare from what you see a little bit? My wife was like, so what's the difference between the Walking Dead remaster versus the Metallica remaster? And I was like, from what I was seeing, you know, you're getting bigger screens, sculpts. It looks like almost even different gameplay. So Metallica remasters it seemed largely art, but it seems like the Walking Dead remake might be a different experience. Well, yeah, overall you're going to get a different experience. And this is something that we're not actually going to know about until they do the gameplay on the 14th, is because there are design upgrades. And what all the upgrades are, I honestly didn't know. I didn't look it up because I didn't care that much. But, like, they have done a lot of improvements. That's what they do with all their remasters is that they take things that were common problems or common issues or complaints about a game, and they improve upon that. So there's a lot of improvements that they've done. And, like, literally the only thing that I can really crap on about is just the color palette is not what I believe to be within the theme. That's it. I mean, that's the only thing. And if people want to get the game and they love the colors and they're happy with it, then great. Good for you. Then get the damn game. But it's like I look at that color palette and I go, if I didn't know The Walking Dead, it wouldn't affect me or I wouldn't care about it. If I didn't watch the show and I just enjoyed the game, it probably wouldn't affect me very much. But since at one point in time, I was very into The Walking Dead. And the first game that looked like they nailed it aesthetically with it being a very gritty, dark, bloody type of game. And then they come out with this one, and it's all rainbows and butterflies, and it's like, what happened here? There seems to be a disconnect between there. Scott coming in right there with the $2. Stern has a new shooter rod LE, only 25,000 units. Okay. Hey, could you describe a little bit more of the color difference? I know I think I've seen, like, a completely red and white and black, but maybe I'm just dreaming that. um like could you could you i put it in the video the comparison i put it as a some b-roll on top of each other when i mentioned it well then a quick refresh because you know i sleeping on you i gotta cater to acker because he's gonna fall asleep on me guys yes the art is red but those colors seem to be way too bright for the theme 100 carried yeah and that's all i'm saying and i'm not like you know crapping on it it's just like i look at that and i go i'm sorry but that's just not the theme of The Walking Dead. No, but compared to the older one, man, was the older one mute, monotone, less colors? Oh, yeah. You had the cabinet on the LE that literally said the dead inside on it, and it looked like rotted wood, and it was very much more on theme than what we're seeing right here. Let me switch cameras over here. Let me change that transition Because I don't really care for the long Thing like that I'm so close to a win On this game Like the improved mix Improved system Awesome I think the art looks great But when they chose the color palette What's that mean? Like the car doing the hard right off the interstate?
    17:08
    That's where I feel like there was some sort of disconnect. And in the end, this is like, you know, it was approved by AMC. And that's what it comes down to in the end is that you've got to make the license holder happy. And I'm not sure if this was AMC going, hey, we want more color. And if that is the fact that they chose more color, then I really question the executives over there at AMC for making this decision. Maybe they themselves didn't watch The Walking Dead. I'm curious about that. It'll be interesting when eventually there's going to be some Q&A and somebody at Stern is going to have to talk about it.
    17:43
    They kind of do the same thing with WIC. Oh, it was the license holder and they put handcuffs on us and so on and so on. Or if, you know, what they come up with. Paul, by all means, man, if you want to join in, I put the link in the LE member chat if you want to join in here. Thank you very much for the $20 on top of what you already contribute to me on a monthly basis, man. But if you're busy at work or something. Yeah. Get in here, punk. Yeah. When you have friends like us, you don't need enemies, Paul.
    18:17
    Licensors don't even know what they're talking about, says Junior Junior. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Alternate art packages Like did they all have that same color scheme I know there was other art packages made that weren't chosen Every once in a while they'll show those at like Expo They'll do you know one of the panels and show all the alternate Art packages and maybe they'll do that next year It's going to be an interesting seminar Let me bring up this image because some people probably haven't seen this image right here Let me go to my main display right here. For those that have not seen what Frank Mac, he did an alteration of what the artwork looked like kind of thing. This is on theme.
    19:08
    It's like what colors are you getting? You're getting colors from like explosions from when those do occur kind of thing, you know. So it's like, yeah. People would hate that. Yeah, this is much more on theme. This is the direction I think that they should have gone and why they didn't, we'll never know. They're never going to go, this is why, kind of thing. So I even posted that up on my community page on YouTube, getting people's feedback like, you know, would you prefer the top or the bottom? Give me some quarters, baby. Oh, speaking of Frank Mack, here he is coming in strong with the $50. Thank you, my sir. Very kind of you. even threw money my way while I was at an expo. He was contributing to my alcoholism kind of thing. He's like, here, have a drink on me.
    19:56
    Oh, lower cost with AMC logo on side looks much better. Yeah, I mean, it's not as prominent as AMC as the original was kind of thing.
    20:09
    All right, so let's see here. I got topic. Okay, what you got, Acker? Raffles, man. Raffles keep popping up. J.J.P.'s got a raffle for the Guns N' Roses. There's a raffle, again, happening for Barrels of Fun next machine. And I wonder, since I have the labyrinth, I get to participate in this raffle. How long does my ownership in Barrels of Fun get me into these raffles? So a lot of raffles going on. I don't know. I could call David and ask him, maybe. Be like, hey, man, I got a question here from, maybe he's not, Maybe he's in chat. David, if you're in chat, by all means, if you've got to answer that question, answer up.
    20:52
    And then, yeah, so they said five years since Guns N' Roses, they're having a JJP raffle. Oh. Well, I'm sure there's a lot of distros out there that need to get rid of some Guns N' Roses. So, by all means, hit them up and make an offer. I'm pretty sure a lot of them would like to get rid of them kind of thing because they made a lot of those games. It's signed by Slash, man.
    21:14
    All right. So here we go, guys. Let me give some of those of you right there in chat. Luke, you still in chat?
    21:25
    Let me see if he's still in chat. I was in a... I got Franchi texting me now. Yes, sir. So, like, just to make sure that we're good on this, I was going to let them hear the video that you sent me, which is exactly what Bug sent Chris today in regards to the spooky speak. So I believe we should be good on this, but I wanted to let everybody else hear it that hasn't got a chance to hear it.
    22:00
    I got to scroll all the way back up to it now. Have at it. All right. Oh, my goodness, Luke. We sent each other way too many D-picks. I got to get rid of some of those. I just scroll all the way up for this. All right, guys. So if you're in chat, the over 120 of you currently, if you have not got to hear what the Spooky Speak is capable of doing, there's Paul wanting to join in. There we go.
    22:29
    We're going to give you guys a first listen, if you haven't already heard it, of what you can do with the Spooky Speak. You don't have the shaker on, so we don't get the full effect, but we can at least show you what it all does. So, we can ask it. What's your name?
    22:47
    Well, uh, I can't tell you. Well, why not? Because you know, I can't if I tell you. I can tell your friends. Your friends are calling me on the horn all the time. I've got to show them the shopping centers for openings and sign autographs and shit like that. It makes my life a hell of a living.
    23:05
    Beetlejuice Don even say his name You don want his help Beetlejuice. Game, you have the right to say your name. Don't even say his name.
    23:25
    Give me some money, baby. I'm going to say it a third time here, but I'm going to wait because in a couple seconds, you get another little call out if nothing happens.
    23:36
    And then you have about ten seconds to say the third. Beetlejuice. He starts describing the topper, so I've got to put that down here where y'all can't hear that. David, all right, that was close. Woo!
    24:15
    Almost got it. Thank you very much there, Scott, for the $1.99. Can't wait for Spooky to have Alexa slash Siri integration. Oh, God, I've said Alexa's name, so she's listening now.
    24:31
    How many Easter eggs are there in the voice activation system? I don't know. It's one of those things, maybe during the updates that they have on the code, they're going to, like, you know, whether they tell you what you can say or give you hints on certain things that you can say, I'm kind of curious of what they will end up integrating into the Spooky Speak system kind of thing.
    24:58
    It's like, I cannot wait for you guys. I know that they can't wait either kind of thing. You know, like if Luke was in charge right now, he'd be hitting the public button on the YouTube trailer for you guys to see this game. He'd be like, fuck it, we're launching this bitch now.
    25:17
    I think we tell some and also hide a ton to be discovered kind of thing. Yeah. People are going to try to have all different types of conversations.
    25:26
    Tell your biologists, oh, I just got a text from Francie and see what happened. So what are your guys' thoughts on what we've seen slash heard on Beetlejuice so far?
    25:39
    I like what I'm seeing, especially about this spooky speak. Oh, yeah, I have an evil dad. I'm all in on Beetlejuice, no doubt.
    25:51
    Yeah, I was in on it before they even made the announcement. I mean, just off of what they did in this last title.
    25:59
    Branchy, if you're available a little bit later, I might bring you in here if you want to shoot the shit, talk about some stuff.
    26:11
    I'm definitely in for Beetlejuice, but I'm old school. I have to see the gameplay before I even think about dropping money on something. That's just me. It does sound promising, though. I will definitely say that. And that's what with me also is that I technically have not seen, like, full gameplay. Like, it's like I've seen the trailer and, like, the ball, where it can go and what the game does. You know how typical trailers are. They show you all the money shots. Like, this is what this does. This is what the game looks like. This is what the game has in it kind of thing. And for those that, I mean, I discussed this on my Patreon live a couple of days ago, explaining what you can expect from the trailer. Now, I'm not giving anything away here. did the same thing with Evil Dead last year. Zack did an amazing job with the upcoming trailer, and it's going to do exactly what Evil Dead do. It's going to show you a portion of the movie, and it's going to show you how Spooky is implemented into the game. A portion of the movie implemented into the game. Basically, this is the video that just shows you how well they've integrated the damn movie into the world underneath glass.
    27:22
    You know what? That's a good question, Paul. I kind of wonder, are you worried about being able to get one? You know, because I know some of us have confirmed spots, but are you worried about this Mystery House thing where it sold out?
    27:38
    Part of me says yes. Granted, I called a bunch of distributors. Their allotment is gone, obviously. But, you know, I got an email from a distributor saying that they have to go to the orders to 100% confirm that they're all gone, but they would be in touch with me to say whether or not, hey, an empty slot opened up, give me your deposit, and it's yours. But, yeah, it's a hard pill to swallow on that one. So I would like to see the gameplay before I really drop a deposit on another game, other than the fact that Harry Potter is kind of on my list to buy as well. and of course harry potter is readily available right now you know uh it makes it a little weird that i saw that uh there was spots being sold i've seen this before not thought too much about it but i saw the manchester has like spots for sale that you could you know take somebody else's place in line i swear i saw it for like two or three thousand dollars on like pin side i don't know if maybe it's scam or not but when you start seeing spots being sold i'm like is that just part of the game that people buy spots and, yeah, we sold out all of them, but those are really meant to be sold again for a higher price, almost like Taylor Swift tickets or something.
    29:06
    Yeah, you're going to have scalpers on this game without a doubt. There is no question that, you know, when people see that what this game is and everything, that there's going to be people that are going to try to, you know, profit off of it. and once they get their deposit in, then they're going to try to flip it over and sell it for a couple of thousand, if not more.
    29:29
    I mean, like I have a – I've been on Winchester. I've been on Beetlejuice. But it's crazy to see people offering $3,000 and $4,000 on top of the $2,000 deposit to buy people's slots. I mean, like I thought about it, so I got my reservation. But that FOMO is real for some of the folks.
    29:49
    Here's a Winchester right now. I'm looking at on Pennside and someone's asking $5,000 for their spot.
    29:56
    Man. On the flipping out podcast Zach was talking about, he's already had to change orders and some of these are going for, you know, three, four grand. It's crazy. Ben Heck is in the house. Always a pleasure to have you in the chat. Always a pleasure to meet you in person. Saw you at Expo. So that's what ruins this hobby. Yeah, because obviously everybody wants to pay the lowest price as possible kind of thing.
    30:29
    Yeah, but, you know, some manufacturers won't let you switch, and I think that's good. You know, take possession of the pinball machine and then sell it if you want to. well i think that they're this this game definitely uh sold out before it was even officially announced that's kind of funny is that it was this is the first time this has ever happened and i think this was the first and a learning experience and i believe that the next title they do like next year or whatever is going to be a little bit different on what distros can and cannot do. What that is, I don't know. We'll have to see. I'm sure they've got plans in place to, I don't know, make it a little more in order. Like, you know, this is how it's going to be. You cannot or can and cannot do this kind of thing.
    31:19
    It even looks like we had zero plans of this happening. I guess people have the opportunity to buy some show games. I mean, we just saw these Evil Deads from Great American Pinball. I mean, how many did he have? Like five or six at the show recently or at Expo? Yeah, he had six there. You know, he had six there, but they were for sale for $16.50. And they were only like – the difference is that they had different kind of powder coating. So if you wanted one of six of that particular version of Evil Dead for $16.50, then it was there. Now, I mean, I think he only sold three at the show maybe. He might have sold more. so he may still have three if you guys wanted that special powder coating it looks like blood stripping off the lockdown bar and everything uh again too with the beetle juice so Brad you're asking my final thoughts on King Kong and uh okay I'll give you my final thoughts on King Kong and this is something that I implemented in my expo video which I still have yet to edit for the public it's like I've got like an hour long spiel of me talking about everything at Expo, and it's only on my Patreon right now. I need to edit it down for the public because I kind of go off on a long tangents on certain things. But in the end, I don't hate King Kong. And once again, people thought since I got rid of the game, then it must be a dog or just be horrible. Like, no, the game was always planned to be rotated out with another game. My main point when it comes to King Kong is, and I made a video in regards to this, is that I believe that the King Kong LE is the worst LE that Stern Pinball has ever put together. I think that is one of the main points that I wanted to make with King Kong when I got it. I was very disappointed in the amount of money that I spent and what I got in return kind of thing. And it's always what value and worth is always subjective to everyone. and I think that also changes when you have knowledge in your head about other manufacturers and what they're working on and what they're going to charge and what you're going to get you really start comparing you know like this is what Stern's wanting me to pay for this and then I look at what Spooky's working on what they're putting together and what they're charging for what you're going to get. And it's just like, are you kidding me? And I can't, I cannot wait to see the public's reaction when they see Beetlejuice drop next week. And then you're going to have a better idea of why I was like more than happy to let King Kong go.
    34:07
    It's not that it was a bad shooter. It shot fine. But I was more excited about getting another game that I wanted to play. At a certain point in time, I'm just like, I think I'm done with King Kong. It's like, yeah, the code was updating. They were adding stuff. But at a certain point, I just found myself like, I don't want to play it. I'm done. I'm good. And the code will eventually get to a point to where, who knows, it may be amazing, and I may get me a pro down the road. But I sure as hell am not going to get another LE. I don't know if I'll ever get another Stern LE until they change something. to make it to where I feel like I am getting something special, something about this LE I've got to get because it is unique, something I feel like I'm getting my bang for my buck. And I almost don't want to talk anymore about King Kong, honestly, because I started thinking about it because I don't like to lose money. No one likes to lose money. And that's the thing about me also is that I'm not getting these games at discounts, guys. I'm paying what you guys out there are paying. carrie you and uh bill were talking about uh the importance that art becomes uh and probably even thing becomes as you own more machines do you think that kind of played into it like you know your lineup is is well up there on themes art and the king kong's is i don't feel like it fits knowing you so much uh you've moved on from other machines it just didn't fit the lineup I'm glad that Last Action Hero went. Thank you.
    35:39
    But, like, Harry Potter, your family man, I feel like you might accidentally get that one nailed to the floor. Give me some quarters, baby. I don't know. We'll see. It'll be my first JJP. It's whenever they decide to start making some arcade additions. It's like they are taking care of all you big spenders out there and your damn collector's additions. They have so many back orders of collector's additions, it's not even funny. but I feel like they definitely need to cater to us people out there that don't want to spend that much money for a game it's like I'm getting the same game as anybody else I don't need the extra fluff and polish all around it kind of thing and if for all I know I get the game and play it the hell out of it the kids love it then uh maybe I'll put money into getting it kind of thing all pretty though Russell he's the guy that bought my last action hero he's like what the hell Last Action Hero is a great game.
    36:36
    Yeah, you know, Perry, the only complaint that I have on Harry Potter is that I play it way more than I do any of my other pens now. It's just that good. I got like maybe one or two games on it at Expo, but I didn't want to put a lot of time on it. I played Spy Hunter at Expo more than I played Harry Potter kind of thing. Dude, I want one of those. If one of those shows up in Texas, I'm buying it. Oh, I guess we're going to be racing for it then. Someone sent me a link the other day. It was in Nebraska, but it was like $2,800. And I'm like, yeah, I want it, but not that bad. Yeah. It's the nostalgia. It's the trash playing in the background. It's like I'd rather get one a little bit ragged out and make it sexy versus getting one that's already shopped up anyways.
    37:19
    It's interesting how hard they had to fight for that intro song. I can never remember the name, but of course my wife does. And she said it's a must to have that song when it starts. What's the name of it?
    37:35
    On what? On Harry Potter. It's not called Hagrid's tune or something. Yeah, it's Hagrid's, I forgot what the hell it's called, but what about it? As long as we're on the same page. I saw that JJP had to pay a lot extra and work really extra hard. There was a special video where they sent Jack out on the hunt to make sure that that song was included because it wasn't seemingly part of the deal. Yeah. And my wife was like, yo, that would be completely deal off if they didn't have that song on the pinball machine. What is that called, guys and sheds? It's called Hagrid's. Is it Hagrid's theme? There's a name for it. But, yeah, that was even during Eric's seminar at Expo. He stated that the theme song was separate from the rest of the licensing, and evidently it cost a lot of money. And Eric was like, screw it, let's pay it, because we have to have it in the game.
    38:37
    And so they did. And so they paid out the wazoo. I can only assume, I'm sure it's probably six figures. Hedwig theme is what it's called.
    38:47
    That's it. It's a deal breaker. And so it's interesting to see when a company has to bend that backwards just for that one little item.
    38:59
    And it means something to certain people that really know it. And my wife's one of those. I've definitely been having those FOMO conversations with my wife. We're in South Florida. There's not a machine but three-plus hours from us. And on December 5th, we're going to finally go play one in Orlando. We planned a whole trip around going to see it. And, man, the FOMO is real with that machine unlike any other. William, send him a helicopter. Get him to play that game tomorrow. I'm telling you. I told him, you know, there's the Brightline train to Orlando. I'll go get you. I'll pick you up. I thought you told me if I ran really fast at a brick wall with a shopping cart that I would just arrive in your living room. There you go.
    39:44
    Luke, so from what I'm hearing, you mentioned about getting a hookup with Disney for licensing with them. So from what I hear, you may not want to be licensed with them in regards to how long you'll be in there, to how expensive it is, and how restrictive they are. JM, thank you very much for the $10. I'm like a first grader doing the pee dance. I'm so excited for Beetlejuice.
    40:11
    Oh, man. But, like, yeah, so that's the same thing in regards to Beetlejuice and talking about, like, you know, what kind of audio we're going to hear in the game. And that's why when I was speaking to Bug, I was like, we're talking about teasers, and they were, like, following around some ideas. And I knew that one of the big questions that people had was, you know, are we going to have Danny Elfman music? Because for a lot of us out there, when you think of a, like, a Tim Burton film, you immediately think of the audio that goes along with it. Everybody thinks of Batman 89. You think of that theme song. Whenever you, like, you know, hear, like, Nightmare, not Nightmare. Oh, yeah, the Nightmare Before Christmas. I was going to say Nightmare on Elm Street. But all of Tim Burton, Edward Scissorhands, everything, they have a particular main theme that really sticks out and is like buried in nostalgia for us kind of thing.
    41:00
    All right, Luke, have a good night, man. But so when it came to like the audio for going into Beetlejuice, we're talking about Danny Elfman. And Danny Elfman is also very freaking expensive when it comes to including his audio into whatever you're doing kind of thing. And I was like, you got to at least, at least have the main theme. I was like, and I was concerned that what the rest of the audio was going to sound like. I really was. And I was like, I don't know, man. I'm a little worried about what the rest of the game is going to sound like. Is it going to sound out of place? Is it not going to mesh well? And so he sent me all the audio kind of thing for the game. And I went through it, and I was like, holy crap. This sounds like Danny Elfman. So that's why when it came to teasing the audio for it, I was like, this needs to get out there because I wanted it to ease a lot of people's minds. I wanted them to know that the audio is going to mesh very well with what we are expecting it to be. And so hopefully that eases people's minds right there. You'll hear it in the trailer, background music and everything.
    42:13
    Yes, there is the main theme for sure. in the game and then there's also uh brady hearn who did the composer uh compositions for all the audio and he's i have to think he's riding the line on actually copyright infringement on some of these songs where i'm like man that sounds very close to the actual thing but they i whether he changes enough to where it's still in safe-to-use, fair-use territory kind of thing. But I was like, man, yeah, I let my girls hear it. I didn't tell them what it was from, but I was like, what does this sound like? And they were like, it sounds like Beetlejuice. And I'm like, okay, that's all I needed to hear kind of thing, because the audio, it sounds like it is Beetlejuice. Carrie, can you confirm if there is the Harry Belafonte songs in the game? No, I cannot confirm, but I will say the trailer will confirm or deny Whether or not you're going to have Harry Belafonte music in the game So, stay tuned to the trailer There's all different types of audio that's included in the game Danny Elfman, the composer, and other stuff, call outs and everything like that. Hey, Kerry, I got a question for you because I don't have a Spooky machine. This is going to be, Beetlejuice will be my first one. And I know JJP, it really knocked it out. I got Harry Potter at home, and the sound package, the speakers that they have in it are amazing. Anybody know anything on the sound package for Spooky and how it's going to run the audio and everything on Beetlejuice? I really do not know because this will be my first one as well. So this is going to be a learning experience for me. My next two games are literally games that I've never owned from manufacturers. It's the JJP and a Spooky. That's what I plan to get next. I have four Spookys, four or five. I have no problem with their audio.
    44:21
    Yeah, it's got an amplifier in the cabinet just like a pin looker kit, so you can drive it hard. Yeah, Jesse loves pinball states. Spooky audio is fantastic. It thumps. That's awesome. Someone else was saying it was great.
    44:36
    My TNA rocks the house. Oh, you have to have a good bass for TNA. I still remember hearing those cabinets at Texas Pinball Festival. You knew that TNA was being played because you hear that boom. Oh, yeah. That thing, when I got thumbs.
    44:52
    My only tip when you buy the Spooky is, like, when I got my Evil Dead, I was like, man, this thing doesn't have any bass. and just make sure you check the settings on the amplifier because you might, you know, want to crank it up to your liking, but it definitely kicks if you set it correctly.
    45:10
    Yeah, my Rick and Morty just absolutely slammed. It had vibration tape to the glass, but it was awesome. Oh, Brady's even in chat right now. What's going on, Brady? I was just talking some goodness about your audio, man. I was telling the people about how it seems like you had to have been riding the fine line of like getting the whole uh past the actual Danny Elfman music on some of those I was like man that sounds like it was pulled from the movie kind of thing but as a Danny Elfman fan I think you definitely nailed it because I remember I was telling Bug I was like, bug, there is a signature that Elfman has that I feel like if it's not in the game, people are going to complain. And that's where he was like, I think we should be good. And I heard the audio, and I was like, okay, yeah, you should be good.
    46:07
    So definitely, Brady, I've got to have you on sometime, especially after, mainly after the game gets released, so we can go through all the soundtrack and people can really hear what you put into it and then we can talk about that because I would love to deep dive on Eltman music especially since you say that you been a fan of it because there's just certain things that he does that stands out as his music.
    46:35
    Does Spooky come with invisible glass? No. The ghost glass that they provide, I want to say, is extra. How much is it extra, guys? $160? $200?
    46:45
    I can't remember. It's just the regular price, though. I mean. Yeah, so the ghost glass is sold separately. Yeah, so $150 is what Jesse Lespinball is telling me. So $150 for the ghost glass. Okay. $150? I want to say $250. I don't think it's that much. No. I can't remember. I think it's about $150. I think it's about right for the ghost glass, yeah. William, you should know since you own four of the damn things. You should be like. Yeah. They just send you an invoice and you're like, write that check. Fuck it. Take my money. Are you kidding? No, I clicked the button. It says pay.
    47:26
    Yeah, Spooky launched the Ghost Glass with Evil Dead at one point. Yeah, Evil Dead was the first one, yeah. And all of us know. I mean, visually, it's $240 for the standard, a little bit more for the live body. And all of us know you're going to get the glass, you're going to get the topper, and you're going to get, what's the last thing with that? The butter? The butter, yeah, exactly. I don't think I'm getting butter. I don't think I'm going to get butter. Hold on, let me ask Chad, because I'm really curious about this. Let me see here. Because I really don't. All of my spookies are butter, and it makes a difference. So before I submit on this poll, let me make my argument on why I don't think I should get butter.
    48:20
    Even though I've got plenty of guys and people telling me that I should get it. One, I don't think I should get it because I'm cheap. That's number one. That's an extra $1,600. hundred bucks um two i think that would delay when i would get my game because they have to ship that stuff off to be clear coated and everything three it will be going into a lineup it will never fully be appreciated kind of thing four i do worry about if it does get nicked or scratched or something like that whereas a decal could fix it versus being butter and clear coat Not so much.
    48:59
    Yes. All right. So here we go. Let's start the poll. Let's see what everybody thinks if I should get the butter on Beetlejuice. And so for those that do not know, I do plan to be at the midnight release for Beetlejuice, as well as I think Sterling here in chat is going to plan on being there, as well as another member of the Patreon team. I guess he's probably busy right now. Let me see if I've got another message in here from anybody. Okay. I was going to invite John Sterling. If you talk to him or whatever, I'll put it in there.
    49:34
    But, yeah. So I plan on being there for the midnight release. I don't really know if I'm going to be able to obviously show you guys the game after midnight because I think that they want to release the game when the trailer gets released. I think it's definitely a done deal that at 10 a.m. That's when orders open up, direct sales from Spooky kind of thing. But definitely I will be there and be going live to show you the game after the game is basically approved to be shown to you. So if you haven't already subscribed to the channel, by all means do that. Activate your notifications because I will be glad to show you anything about this game that I have been given the okay to do so. Are you really getting one, or will you pull an Alice? Oh, listen here, Pass Arcade, listen. Who says that I didn't order an Alice, first of all?
    50:29
    Maybe I'm merely holding on to an Alice spot until the very freaking end. I don't know. I don't know.
    50:40
    I already told Spooky that I was going to be getting this game a good while ago. because they were like, Carrie, you know, this was like a couple of years ago. They were like, Carrie, what are we going to do to get you into a spooky game? And this was, I think, whenever they were launching Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
    50:57
    And I was like, I don't know, you just got to get me a theme that speaks to me kind of thing, you know. And whenever I got in with them, you know, they let me know about Evil Dead. And that's when I knew, like from that game, I was like, holy crap, something has changed with spooky, with Evil Dead. this is the quote of the century. This is their Godzilla. I knew that it was something special kind of thing. And so then it was whenever they told me what was coming next. And so they told me, you know, that Beetlejuice was next. And I was like, oh, shit.
    51:31
    Because I knew if they put in the effort that they did with Evil Dead, if they put that same effort into Beetlejuice, that it was going to be a done deal. It was game over, man, game over.
    51:43
    All right. So currently at the end of the poll, we're sitting at, what, 66% say no. I like this poll. I tend to lean towards what they respond with right there, William. You can have your nice, shiny, you know what? Or maybe I'll just clear coat the shit myself. Hey, you'll see it when you unbox it, and then when you put it in the lineup, you know it's there.
    52:07
    I agree. It's a collection, people. a collection. Mine's a cheaper collection. I like this pole. That's what she said.
    52:22
    All right. French, you want to join in for a little bit for the last, I don't know, 15 or 20 minutes? I'm thinking that I'll be on here.
    52:29
    Maybe not. That's cool, but I figure I'd give you the option if you want to shoot the shit. You might want to make them agree to behave.
    52:37
    Put some clothes on. But I'm not going to have you on camera anyways. I don't have any of these guys on camera. Nah, he's like, nah, I let the guys get it.
    52:46
    Hey, Gary, that video I sent you, I don't know if you've listened to it. It's got some really good audio for Beetlejuice. Colin posted it, so I don't know. It's the one that Kaneda shared, and you get to see. I mean, I'll play it right now. Let me bring it up. It's got some. If people haven't heard it, they probably want to hear it. Yeah, because you'll actually get to see how much it glows. So, hold on. Let me bring it up right here. So let me make sure that where are we going with this?
    53:16
    All right. Yeah, that's like doing a demonstration of it. All right. So let me do a screen share right here for those that have not seen it and heard it.
    53:28
    This is what I played earlier, but you get a little bit of a visual. Hello. Hi, how are you? I'm good. What's your name?
    53:36
    Well, I can't tell you. Why not? You know why, Kevin? If I tell you, you tell your friends. Your friends are calling me on the horn all the time. I got to show up at shopping centers for opening, signing autographs and shit like that. And that makes my life a hell, okay? A living hell. Got it. Well, it's okay. I know his name anyway.
    53:57
    Beetlejuice. Got the date. There we go. All right. Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice So yeah, there you go That's a little bit more of a visual representation Of how the game glows I couldn't show you my screen because it would show you the game and then you would really get excited about what you're seeing in this.
    54:39
    Looks so badass. Oh, man. Let me bring up Chad again right here. You know, from what I see in that, Kerry, I like the light show. It doesn't look like it's overdone. It looks like it's tastefully done and it's reflective of the mood that the pinball machine is trying to do. This game lights up crazy because I don't know if it's the improved lighting system that they said that they've implemented in this game to where the back portion of the play field is much better lit or whatever system that they're doing. We've got an improved screen that's into this one for whatever it is. I mean, I don't know, but I know that they said they've improved the screen as well as the lighting system.
    55:27
    Okay, this is a good question. Junior Junior, does the game only start if you do the Beetlejuice voice command, or can you press the start button? So this is what happens. If you boot your game up, it goes into basically, think of it like a standby mode, like on your computer, like how it comes up with like the screensaver. Think of it like a screensaver mode. That's a good idea. The old school people out there know what I'm talking about. And you have the option of either speaking his name three times, or you can literally walk up to the game and hit the action button, and it basically essentially brings the game to life. So, and Ben Heck, you're in chat By all means, you can correct me if I'm wrong But I want to say that is how the game works You have the option If you can go into your settings And I think you can even disable the spooky speak option So you don't even have that come up But the game will essentially boot up And it will have on the on-screen display Say his name three times And it will look like the game is turned off But it's actually on and listening So your game is not listening to you Like my frickin' Alexa back here to everything that you're saying. It's only on.
    56:35
    He's like, of course it uses the start button. I'm like, okay, yeah, but you have to call Ben to start the game.
    56:45
    Oh, man. Acker, are you still awake? Yeah, thanks for checking in, man. I was wondering, it doesn't need the internet for that, right? It's all local audio processing. uh no it's all local i mean uh then if you want to add any further information on how that thing works in chat by all means i would appreciate it i don't want to like be you be tech support here on this but uh and then the other thing is uh i think this could go deeper uh like settings i saw that jjp had this thing where you could scan the qr code that they give you to change modes before you start a game, I could see even opening the coin door and be like, spooky speak, change to five ball, and then it's done, you know, you don't got to play with a whole bunch of settings, I think this could, so far I've only seen it for entertainment value, you know, but I could see this being easier to control your machine or quicker. Oh man, I mean, I don't think it's impossible, I'm sure, like, you talking about this Ben Hex, like, he's like, yeah, that'd be a cool idea if you could just tell your game what settings you want, like, you know, hey, spooky speak or whatever, hey, Beetlejuice, lower volume to five or something like that, that would be pretty interesting. Yeah, I can see it on a practical level where you start to maybe open the coin door. You know, you don't want people being able to change that. Or maybe you do since it's a home machine. Maybe you just trust everybody. But I can see it even being you just open the coin door, hold the button down, and speak your mind, and then it tries to change your settings. Yeah, you've got to make it to where you still have to have access to the coin doors. so people on location can't just sit there and say, hey, switch to pre-play mode or whatever. You still have to hold a button down or whatever kind of thing. I can see that. I mean, I'm sure Ben's going, oh, my God, the amount of coding that would take to do that. It's like, oh, my God. I don't know. I'm not a coder, so I can't speak to that. But that would be cool. Definitely I can say that would be cool, without a doubt. Yeah, they're definitely picking up keywords for the Beetlejuice words and the response to them. So I'm sure as long as you're very specific, change to three ball, change to five ball. Some of the small ones could be pretty easy to pick up. And then, you know, you probably have a list of other ones that comes with it. Say, spooky speak, change to easy mode, hard mode, you know, a lot of those common ones could be pretty easy to execute. Yeah, even Ben's saying, he says that you would have to have a keyword. So, yeah, I don't know how they've got it coded kind of thing. So it would be one of those where I think it's going to be pretty interesting to see what they are able to do with it. Because even I don't know what the full extent of it is. I've merely just seen the side effects of one thing, which is what now everybody else has essentially seen, except for the actual game.
    59:42
    Melbourne Pen Expo is going on today. that's the thing is that enzo sent me a message earlier and he's having drinks with uh eric mignet over there and i'm just like i was like dude tell that guy to accept my friend's request on facebook it's like yeah i didn't like godfather but damn it i'm buying harry potter come on what oh man if no assets better off buying the old walking dead at the price point there is honestly Damon, you've probably seen it. There's a Walking Dead original for sale around us for, what, $5,500? Yeah, I've seen it. Yeah.
    60:21
    All right, Paul, take it sleazy, man. Have a good night, all. I'm not the first going to sleep. No, we're not still to the late point that we have our LE meetups. It's usually around, like, you know, 9 o'clock your time, which we still got another 30 minutes. Well, actually, it is 9 o'clock your time. It's 9.30 where you're at. Yeah, I'm surprised you're still awake, man. Yeah, I was wondering, is there some must-haves in Beetlejuice? You know, remember when Hot Wheels didn't have a ramp and you wanted nothing to do with it from the moment you heard that it didn't have a loop? A loop, not a ramp. A loop. Yeah. And I'm like, that's one thing that you're right. You're right. You have to have a loop in the Hot Wheels. But Beetlejuice, there's so much. There's the worm. There's the models. There's the car. You can't go wrong. Just include as many as you can, and if you can't get them all, meh. Is there anything you can think of it must have? This is the thing. This is why I say that if you are a Beetlejuice fan, like myself, then I think you will be very fucking happy. Winona Ryder eats the ball.
    61:32
    Me just guessing. I think it has to have an upper play field that's the attic. I mean, it only makes sense. I mean, just to me. I could be totally wrong.
    61:44
    Oh, man. It looks like you filled the spot where it had King Kong. What's new back there? These actually aren't new back here. Let me switch over to this screen right here. So these are games that I've had. This is Doctor Who, and this is Swords of Fury. These are games that I've had for years. These are next on the list for restorations. As you can see, they are pretty dim. but I haven't decided which one of these two needs to get the Hardy treatment on restoration. Matter of fact, let's do another poll right here for the public out of curiosity.
    62:21
    Again, I need to present my case on why I would prefer one over the other. Me personally would prefer Swords of Fury. Because I have a lot of ideas for this game. And one of the reasons why I want this is because it's a little bit more rare. Not a lot of people have the game, and those that are getting the game now are holding on to the damn thing. Two, the soundtrack is amazing. For those that love System 11s, you have to agree that it has one of the best soundtracks for System 11 games. I'll fight you on it.
    63:00
    But, yeah, it's mainly my point behind that. I have a lot of ideas in place, and I just got to implement them. The Doctor Who, it's like, yeah, I mean, I would love to fix that one up, but I'm having issues, and this is the great thing about the internet, is that there's people out there that probably have connections or the ability to find something, but I don't have a topper for my Doctor Who. I've even got the bobblehead kit to make the topper head move for the Dalek, but I don't have a topper. It was lost. And for those that don't know, my Dr. Who back here, honestly the back box for it is an old getaway back box because when I bought this game, someone dropped it off a truck and the back box was crushed.
    63:48
    But I want to do Swords of Fury. And one of the things I want to do it with is with pin sound. And I've been talking to Nicholas over there, wanting to know when they're going to have Pins Down available for Swords of Fury. And it's the same thing I've been getting whenever they were talking about Back to the Future. It was like, soon, soon. We got it soon. It's almost done. Soon, soon, soon. And then two years later, it's finally available. So I know they're French, so maybe soon is just not the word I think they should be using. So anyways, so let's get some feedback here from the public on which one would they rather see me fix up.
    64:27
    well that's not it carrie that's the wrong thing clear that get out of this no exit i did the wrong thing question it's not even a poll okay well whatever this is what what if someone made a new topper for Doctor Who. That's the question I have. It's like, why hasn't somebody recreated this? I know there are plenty of people out there with the skill and the equipment to do so, but I have yet to be informed about it. I was told a couple of years ago that someone was recreating the topper for Doctor Who.
    65:16
    Since I can't have a multiple thing, I'll just start with this one. Should it be, should I do DW? We'll start with that one, then that'll give me an idea.
    65:47
    Ralph, be hiding behind the damn chat. You want to text me, but you don't want to say you're there in chat. Quit hiding. It's okay to let people know that you're here.
    65:56
    Unless I'm just background noise, which is what it sometimes is for some of the content that I intake, is background noise.
    66:05
    So I'm happy to be your background noise, Ralph. I'm glad you're enjoying hearing me shoot the shit while you're doing stuff. So it looks like definitely 78% say no in regards to it being Doctor Who. It's one of those games that I really do think I mean, how I discovered Swords of Fury It's not funny, but it was at Texas Pinball Festival with me and the wife. And this is like way before I got into doing content creation. This was merely me just being a current fan of pinball, going to these shows, playing games, and having fun with them. And we just stumbled across a very nice Swords of Fury game. And we played it, and we just really enjoyed it. The audio package was great. We enjoyed the gameplay of it. And it was one of those games where I took my phone out and put it on my list of, like, I want this game type of thing. And then eventually one came available for sale, like, back in 2016? Down in Houston, actually. And that's the one I've got back here. And so eventually I will make this one look sexy.
    67:37
    Always bet on Lion Men, says Ben. All right. So it looks like the public is leaning towards Lion Man If you haven't got a chance to play Swords of Fury I do recommend it It's definitely a very good System 11 game Alright guys Is there any other topics that we need to mention Did I not touch base on certain things You guys wanted to talk about In regards to What's going on Can we ask Gary a question?
    68:14
    That's the thing with Gary is, like I say, his acronym is GUIDED. So I have to do the guiding kind of thing. He doesn't just answer to anything.
    68:26
    Let's talk about French, you sweet ass. Yeah, G-A-R-I. There is a difference, guys. American Pinball is hiring people again, apparently. Yeah, you need a job, guys. American Pinball is looking for people. Hopefully they are assembly line workers because they need to make some stuff.
    68:46
    Yeah, they hired somebody today. Yeah, I guess his name was, was it Ben Zinke or something like that?
    68:56
    I keep getting a little hype to want to play that Galaxy game of theirs. I saw it in a lineup where the side tires, the tread, had the LEDs on the side. It's still eye-catching. It still kind of gets the point of it being a tank, Galactic Tank Force. I don't know. I keep getting hype for it, and I saw Adrian in your LE.
    69:20
    He's got one, and I wanted to talk more about the hype of that game for some reason. I going to ask another question in the chat I curious
    69:40
    It's like I use the word artwork, but, I mean, I'm looking at the whole package when I ask this question to people out there. I know that there's people out there that don't care, or they do love it, and they do like it. And that's cool. I'm glad that you do like it kind of thing. But I think I'm hard-pressed to find somebody that is a real fan of the show that can look at that artwork and go, yes, this is exactly what I look for in a theme that I really enjoy.
    70:17
    And, like, Franchi, I know you're in chat. If I saw Beetlejuice Game and I saw a whole bunch of things or colors that are not in the movie, I'd be like, what the fuck are you thinking kind of thing? I mean, what?
    70:35
    But luckily, after seeing it, I don't have to question that. I'm like, good. That's what bothers me, I think, on a lot of the decisions that get made on certain things, guys. is that it's like they themselves that are making the game are not actually fans of that particular theme.
    70:58
    And it's like you could say that Barrels of Fun, they could have made Labyrinth with rainbow colors, and that would have pissed me off because that game does not have rainbow colors, or that movie does not have rainbow colors in it kind of thing.
    71:14
    And people are like, oh, it's a brown game. I'm like, well, yeah, the movie was pretty brown. That's just the way the movie was kind of thing. Same thing with Dune. Like, oh, another brown game. Well, the theme, and it was pretty brown kind of thing. That's just the way it is.
    71:31
    Yeah, I don't really mind how it's drawn. It's just the color palette. Yeah, I think that's a lot of people's input on the situation. There's plenty of people out there that love it the way it is, and they want the colors, and by all means, awesome. It's the joy of having an opinion is a hobby. The only thing I wish, and it's not going to happen, like I stated earlier, is that everyone has an emotional bond to a lot of things in here. And an emotional bond can really affect the type of, like, feedback, you know, that you get on certain things. And there's going to be people that when they see Beetlejuice, they're not going to like it. I mean, I would be shocked if everyone saw the game and said this is perfect or this is, you know, the artwork's perfect kind of thing instead of kind of thing.
    72:21
    But maybe that will happen. But I definitely would love to have a debate with anybody that after they see this game for them to say that they did not honor the theme.
    72:34
    You will not be able to say that in this game. And I think that's what a lot of us, when we see certain decisions get made, we really do wonder if the people that are creating it really actually care about the theme or they're just doing it because that's their job.
    72:55
    Which game do you think Stern should have remade or remastered? I think almost any other option kind of thing. Not like The Walking Dead is a bad game. I honestly don't have a lot of time on it But I think there's a demand For a lot of their other older games It's like I would love for them to do Tron You know the usual suspects You know like Lord of the Rings But I don't know when or if they will do it The current rumor for their next remastered is ACDC Which I think will probably do better than The Walking Dead I think it's for the Metallica treatment That game would be amazing But I think Ghostbusters is the one that comes up so often And Because that's not even in discussion Or that wasn't the next It almost leads to the rumor that J.J.P. now has that property Well I don't think it's Something that I cannot Share but The thing is the property for the Matrix was purchased at one point in time for a certain manufacturer. But they didn't get everything that they know they would need to get. And the same thing goes with guns. It would be the same John Wick fiasco thing. And then you're not going to get certain actors in it. So it was one of those where I don't know if they still have it, But somebody had it at one point in time, and then they actually realized, oh, crap, we're not getting these actors, we're not getting guns, and little things like that, which can make or break the sale of a game. So 76% are saying that they do not like the new The Walking Dead artwork. and it's one of those things where I feel like if you cannot get what you know your buyers want out of a particular theme then maybe don't do it so yeah back to the future being one of them and this is something that I'm pretty sure I can speak to about I'm pretty sure everyone knows that Back to the Future is coming, and people have concerns about what do they have, what do they not have, and they've got everything.
    75:31
    So there. Let's see, what did I miss? Yeah, this is another point right here. Colored Matrix next. Yeah, so like if you got a Matrix game and you saw rainbow, a bunch of bright colors, you would be like, this is not the theme. This is not it.
    75:53
    You would need a lot of greens and a lot of blacks for the Matrix. Spooky nightmare on Elm Street. 007, due to the designer, they won't touch it because of Trudeau. And that's the thing that you got to kind of question about when it comes to things like that with Ghostbusters because of Trudeau, with the history of it.
    76:16
    And for those that don't know, I'll be somewhat censored about this because there's things that you can't really mention on YouTube, but John Trudeau designed a lot of games that probably a lot of you enjoy. But how many years ago, guys, was it? Ten, maybe?
    76:34
    It was like right after WWE that basically it was discovered that he was a PDF. And he had videos and stuff like that. It was Deadpool. Deadpool was George took over and changed it. Yeah, that's right, because he was going to be doing Deadpool, and so he had to be replaced kind of thing. But, you know, even with the designer's history and what he is,
    77:02
    people still are going to love those games kind of thing. But it's like if you're going to redo it, Do you redo Ghostbusters to where it is a new game, like a new design, you repair the flipper gap, or do you keep it as it is? You specifically do Ghostbusters 4.
    77:22
    I don't know how well that would go over. I think you just do it again just like they just did Star Wars again. You know, it's been an even longer gap in between Ghostbusters and Star Wars. yeah and that's the thing is like like right here you know the art is separate from the artist and I and honestly it's just I I look at that the same way too it's like it's like yeah I know people had their complaints about you know Harry Potter and all that BS or whatever but I look at it as of like you know did they create something cool or interesting that I enjoy I don't look at it as like I'm supporting them I'm like I'm looking at it that I am enjoying something that they did create. It's not about the person kind of thing. Yeah, they redo Ghostbusters. Please, God, get rid of the stupid Magna slings. They sucked. Oh, man. Ghostbusters is the Teemu American. Oh, Ben, at some point, I definitely got to have you on. We'll both drink and have a good time. That'll be good. I'll ask you what your favorite calculator is and everything.
    78:36
    Oh, man. Yeah, it's one of those things, there's a lot that they could do with a lot of the games that they've done before and remastered. It's just that I think what a lot of us look for is that they do a particular theme, just do it justice. I mean, make it to where you really are doing the theme to where you want people that love that theme to have no choice but to buy it.
    79:05
    And that's where I question The Walking Dead. Even though I fell off of The Walking Dead around season five when Negan started beating the hell out of everybody, I still had a great idea of what the show was and what it looked like and what it should have. And then I get shown the remastering art package, and I'm like, hmm. Not the direction I would think to go with this.
    79:31
    Russell, I'm telling you, you laugh about the favorite calculator question, but I guarantee you that Ben would have an answer. He's like, oh, damn, that's a hard question.
    79:43
    Oh, TI-85, yeah, maybe. Season 2 was as far as I made it, yeah. At a certain point, and I think that's a little bit of the problem here when it comes to The Walking Dead, is that it lost relevance.
    79:58
    Whereas if you do Metallica, you do ACDC, those are pretty much always relevant because you have fans of the band. If you do Lord of the Rings, there are still plenty of grown men, including myself, that will be like, hey, you want to have some beers and watch Lord of the Rings remastered? Not remastered, but the extended cut? Fuck yeah, let's do this shit. It's going to make it a night. We'll nerd out.
    80:23
    You want to watch Tron or whatever? Sure, why not kind of thing. You want to do Brokeback Mountain? No.
    80:39
    Damn it, Ackerd. That would be a game right there. Not that particular one. but a game in general was to, like, bring up certain licenses or themes that just,
    80:54
    what would rip back door skillshine? Maybe I'll do that on a live stream at some point. We will have, like, a giant wheel that we get to spin, and we're going to create the worst pinball machine theme ever. but it's like the best shooting, best coded game ever kind of thing. It's one of those, like, guilty pleasure games where you're like, this is obviously a horrible theme. I get it.
    81:27
    But have you played it? I wish I could quit you multiball. Quick, shoot for the tent. Oh, my God. We're going off the rails, guys. We're going to do nine more minutes, and then I'm going to call it quits on the stream. I'm surprised Acker's even still awake. Is the wife still awake, Acker?
    81:52
    Yeah, we're going to beat you at pinball at the beach. We're going to be up and painting on your face. Oh, no. Orbiter 2, even lumpier. Oh, Lord have mercy.
    82:05
    An improvement off of Gary's design right there. But, Mr. Hayes, you were talking about something with the pinball at the beach hotel and doing something. Has anything else developed out of that? Well, they wanted me to come by and get some more footage, some drone footage, since they have, like, renovated the hotel and everything over there. They wanted me to come over there and get some footage, but I can't do it under such short notice. And then we have the holidays coming up. I've got my spooky visit coming up next week. So it's kind of like on the back burner at this point in time. Now, I may still go probably in December. I don't know. We'll see. But I did get some footage from one of the guys that was there, and we'll probably do another video in regards to pinball at the beach.
    82:53
    Anybody that's going to pinball at the beach in chat right now? Kind of curious. I'm pretty sure if you went last year, then you're going to want to go this coming year. I'm so glad I paid because I want to play this Winchester I imagine Beetlejuice is gonna be there I'm just there's a little bit of a pain getting the ticket for whatever there will all be thought there will be 10 Beetlejuice games there Russell oh no chipping in the 50 bucks he Russell are you drinking oh lord he's he might do what he did last time and accidentally hit send twice and send me another 50 bucks. I'm not telling you to do that, but he's probably drinking right now as well. Yeah!
    83:38
    Going. I'm going to the beach. Didn't go last year. Going. Jesse loves pinball. Yeah, yes, going, bro. Second year, I'll be there. Yeah, I think, yeah, Brady's going. Hell yeah. I think a lot of people that went last year, they're going again because of just the environment. It's just so much awesome.
    83:55
    Ben, are you going? You going to pinball at the beach? I don't know if you're going to go Because you seem like you would just catch fire If you were out in the sun too long, man He's like, nope Thanks, Russell Very much appreciated, man I really want to go But isn't it like a month apart from Texas pinball? Yeah, it really is It's so hard to swing both I'm right there with you man it's one of those where it's like man the good thing about pinball at the beach is that I don't have to bring a game or anything whereas Texas Pinball Festival I usually bring a couple of games Ben's like ginger kids I'm here just catches into flames there's plenty of alcohol I know there's some people out there that are like I wish they sold it by like one day at a time instead of a whole weekend but it's like you know you can vouch for you went there as well as that is that there was definitely plenty of times where sponsors were there, like Titan Pinball or distributors that hosted drinks, basically. You go up to the bar, and this is the time window for you to get all the drinks that you want kind of thing.
    85:07
    For it being such a cool event, I'm kind of expecting Kaneda to be there. His style and his persona, I would expect to see him last year. It would be nice to see him this year. He would fit in there and like it. I think a lot of people just didn't go last year because it was a new show. And it's like, well, they didn't know what to expect. They didn't know what the turnout was going to be, how many games were going to be there, what kind of games were going to be there. It was the unknown. And now since we have it known and have a better idea of what the show is like, word of mouth, my videos, other people's videos that were there, I think a lot more people are more confident and interested in going opposed to what they were last year. And then the people that are going to go this year, it's only going to get much more anticipated than the previous year kind of thing. I hope Mr. Danger goes. Last year, some people were like, oh, if Jack didn't go, you can see how low of an event that was. I think he got sick or one of his daughters got sick. I think that was the year. Yeah, he was going to come. And now he's been streaming. Maybe he'll stream from the event or something, too. So hoping Jack goes. Yeah, maybe. I don't know if he'll bring his streaming equipment or anything, but he'll be there. I'm sure they'll be at the autograph session like they were last year. But you've got a lot of people, including Roger Sharp. He's planning on being there. Franchi's going to be there. He will literally sign anything, including parts of your body. He will do it. The Real Gary did karaoke last year too, didn't he? I believe so. I don't know if I'll do karaoke again this year. I don't know. Maybe I will.
    86:52
    Once I get some more alcohol in my system, then I think I'll be more inclined to do it like I did last year. But I don't think I'll do it. Your wife's a little intimidating there. She is all about the karaoke, man. That was one of our second dates is that we went somewhere to do karaoke kind of thing. And it was one of those where she's, like, going to go up there and sing. And I was, like, thinking to myself, oh, God, please don't be horrible. I was like, I was, because I was definitely interested in pursuing her on our second date, but I didn't want her to get up there and be completely out of tune, tone deaf, and then have to worry about every time going to karaoke kind of thing. But she sang Zombie, and she did it justice, and I was like, okay, good.
    87:37
    I can deal with this. You were in the middle of singing Chicago or something like that, She comes up and, like, hits you in the gut to, like, have you tightened your gut for a note or something. She tried to get me to hit those high notes. I mean, after a while, I just was drinking, and I sound so much better when I'm drunk. That's why I won't get on there until everybody else is drunk. That way I sound really good.
    88:02
    Dude, all I know is you took on More Than a Feeling by Boston. That was the song, I think, that they're talking about. More Than a Feeling. That was impressive. Oh, like I said, it only sounds impressive whenever you're drunk.
    88:17
    Because I listened to it whenever I was sober, and I was like, oh, my God, this sounds so bad. Oh, no.
    88:26
    Is there a liquor store near Pinball at the Beach? I don't know. You don't need it with all the bars. Yeah, there's plenty of bars there, but I guess if you want to bring your own beer kind of thing, I guess you could. I just don't know. it's like a cruise ship it's like a cruise ship on land you open your hand and somebody's gonna put a drink in it yeah go to the socials look for the socials you you wouldn't think like uh too much about the socials i mean you've been to other pinball events little socials you think but at these ones there was you know free cigars uh free food being passed out free drinks you know i'm not gonna say that that's that's every single one or what but it was like it was nearly every Single Social had free drinks and food and whatnot. It was nice. Definitely looking forward to it. It's the show that my wife honestly looks forward to now as well because she likes the ability to go out there on the beach and just relax kind of thing.
    89:21
    How about starting doing another Netflix thing? Squid Games could be a lot of fun modes from the TV show to survive the game.
    89:29
    I don't know. It's like I never watched season two of Squid Game, and I guess there's a Season 3 now as well. I don't know.
    89:39
    The kids love that Squid Games. Van Halen pin, would that be a great game to play? Maybe, could be. Whiskey and cigars, guaranteed, Brad, guaranteed.
    89:51
    I'm going to bring a couple more of my cigars than I did last year. You know how Barrels of Fun put out Labyrinth to catch the wives? if somebody was to do like Roblox I would probably be pinned into getting that.
    90:07
    For the kids? Yeah, the kids. I know my kids would want it. And it's one of those where I don't know, I've never played it before but the kids love it.
    90:20
    Alright, Franchi, we're wrapping this baby up anyways. You see it till the end. You can wait for your dinner because I've got to make my dinner after this anyways.
    90:27
    Alright, guys. Let's wrap this up. Let's call it. Let's wrap it up. Stick a bow on this and say it's done or stick a fork in it. That's the saying. I only had one of these. Thanks, Terry. No problem, guys. I only had one of these beers, but I guess it's because I don't have any food in my stomach that I'm guessing is getting a little bit on me kind of thing. Thank you very much for all of those of you out there that decided to join the stream. Thank you to some of my LA members that decided to join this stream to give you a little bit of feedback and topics to talk about. By all means, this is not the last stream I'll ever do, but this is a chance for you guys to be a part of the conversation. This is one of the reasons why I do this, is that I don't want it to be to where I'm up here just preaching and this is what the gospel is. No, I want to get feedback from you guys out there. Your voice is just as, I don't want to say it's important like mine, but you're as relevant as mine kind of thing. And it's one of those things where I definitely want to get feedback on a lot of these things. and I know that we all can't agree on the same thing, and that's a good thing. It would suck if we all loved the same game, if we all loved the same art package. It would suck. So I'm glad that we have our differences. The important thing here is, guys, you can dislike someone's opinion, but don't dislike the person. That is the main thing that I can, like, throw at you right there. It's completely on. You can have a discussion and disagree with someone's opinions, but don't hate the person.
    92:02
    Yeah. All right, guys. Have a good night. Love you long time. Take it sleazy. Let's see if I can remember how to do this.
    92:24
    Thank you.