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Fresh Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·1h 21m·analyzed·Apr 27, 2025
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TL;DR

Fresh Pinball crew reviews Ninja Eclipse production build and previews Dune launch with lighting system deep-dive.

Summary

Fresh Pinball hosts discuss the newly arrived Ninja Eclipse production model, comparing lighting systems across manufacturers (Turner, JJP, Stern, American), and preview the Barrels of Fun Dune pinball machine launching with early location shipments. They highlight the game's comprehensive theming, glass backbox (painted, not translight), and acknowledge early code approval delays due to licensing requirements rather than incomplete development.

Key Claims

  • Ninja Eclipse production model arrived and is now set up at Zach Angeli Brewing for summer hours

    high confidence · Direct statement from hosts about first edition arrival last Tuesday; installed at their location

  • Dune was announced and began shipping with only one hour's notice (launched on a Monday evening at 5:30pm)

    high confidence · Corbin describes being cut grass when notification came: 'I'm out cutting the grass one Monday night at 5.30 p.m., and it's, hey, in an hour, we're launching the game'

  • Dune ships with painted glass backbox in all versions, with optional alternate glass available later

    high confidence · Explicit confirmation: 'the standard version comes with an actual back glass' and discussion of alternate back glass availability

  • Dune features Horizon Lighting system routed into cabinet on all four sides, similar to expression lights but full-frame

    high confidence · Corbin describes system: 'Charles Afon's version is called Horizon Lighting. It's routed into the cabinet, so along the top. A recessed deal'

  • Dune's code delays were due to licensor approval requirements, not incomplete development

    high confidence · Discussion of Loser Kid podcast deep dive with Brian Savage: 'they were saying that the license around this has been phenomenal...But it all has to be approved'

  • Two Dune machines shipped on Friday of the previous week; more coming to locations within four weeks

    high confidence · Hosts confirm: 'They shipped I think two on Friday of this past week' and 'some ones coming out on location...in the next four weeks'

  • Evil Dead was the most discussed game at March shows and won Best Modern at Pin Brew 2025

    high confidence · Kyle states: 'In March the most buzz for all of pinball was with Evil Dead' and 'that game ended up winning. Best Modern at Pin Brew for 2025'

  • Ninja Eclipse's lighting system is comparable to expression lights and Turner's system in quality

Notable Quotes

  • “I'm out cutting the grass one Monday night at 5.30 p.m., and it's, hey, in an hour, we're launching the game.”

    Corbin @ mid-content — Captures the rushed, last-minute Dune announcement that surprised even the hosts

  • “Anything that is manufacturer made and integrated into the game is automatically superior to me to pin stadiums or pin lights or anything else because I don't have to mess with them when I lift the playfield”

    Corbin @ mid-content — Establishes preference for factory-integrated lighting over aftermarket solutions based on serviceability

  • “I feel like you will. I feel like everything I saw and read, though, was more like it's a licensor issue than it doesn't exist.”

    Kyle @ mid-content — Clarifies that Dune code delays are licensor-driven approval processes, not development shortfalls

  • “The lighting is so improved. Like, the lighting is phenomenal on that game. I honestly thought it had HD glass or something because of the way those stadium-esque lights are.”

    Kyle @ early-content — High praise for Ninja Eclipse's integrated lighting system quality

  • “When you have the shining on the JGP versus, like, the shining down. I like the shining down.”

    Jeff @ mid-content — Directional lighting preference discussion affecting mood/thematic impact

Entities

Ninja EclipsegameDunegameEvil DeadgameBarrels of FuncompanyTurner PinballcompanySpooky PinballcompanyCorbinperson

Signals

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Return to painted glass backboxes after translight era, driven by durability and aesthetic depth preferences

    medium · Discussion of historical evolution from EM painted glass to translights back to painted glass; comparison of fading issues with old pieces

  • ?

    event_signal: Pin Brew 2025 tournament resulted in Evil Dead winning Best Modern category, indicating strong competitive reception for Spooky's newest release

    high · Kyle confirms Evil Dead won at Pin Brew 2025 after code updates early Friday

  • ?

    licensing_signal: Frank Herbert Dune license providing generous asset availability (video, music) but requiring comprehensive approval processes, impacting code readiness timeline

    high · Loser Kid podcast reporting licensor as 'phenomenal' in providing assets but strict on approvals; code delays attributed to pending approvals

  • $

    market_signal: Dune pre-orders generated immediate location interest with three Ohio locations reaching out immediately upon announcement; suggests strong theme reach compared to Labyrinth

    high · Corbin reports three locations contacted immediately requesting early units; hosts agree Dune has broader appeal than Labyrinth

  • ?

    community_signal: Turner Pinball's Chris Turner and his integrated frame lighting design gaining recognition and direct comparison favorably to factory systems from major manufacturers

    medium · Hosts evaluate Turner's implementation as 'neck and neck' with Stern expression lights and other factory solutions

Transcript

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0:00
This stuff. Tonight. Boom, baby. We're live. Welcome everyone to season four. episode six of the fresh pinball podcast oh did you look that up this time i'm pretty confident i was actually thinking the other day like is it time for a new season like we're moving into spring i feel like yeah not far from summer is it time is it time for a new season like what we need some sort of event some sort of something to to mark that this is a new season We'll know it whenever it happens.
0:59
When it feels right. This might be the most episodes we've gotten into a season. It might be. What number was it again? This is season four. Four, right. Episode six. Six. I feel like six or seven might be the top. Yeah, I feel like season one there's... There's no possible way to know how many episodes we've done, so... I mean, no. Obviously, that's the whole point. It's more... The seasons are more important than the episodes. To my right, the guy that I've been seeing all day today playing some Black Knight Swords of Rage and now raging on this podcast. On the board, Kyle. Kyle, how we doing, buddy?
1:35
I'm doing great. It's been a great day. It has been a great day. Eat some camelones. What did you get from there? So we did the Extra Large New York. Okay. Half cheese, half banana pepper. Okay. Much appreciated. And they got an order of their pepperoni rolls. Oh, yeah, those are good. They're real nice. They're real good. Yeah, they're Detroit style, I'm telling you. I know, you said that. I was like, Corbin ain't coming over here today. He ain't getting no Detroit style. No, I was at the hotel for a while. I was at Finney's. You left the pizza, and then Noren was immediately, like, as soon as you were out the door, he was pounding some of the cheese pizza. So, two thumbs up there. Nice. Across the table, Mr. Zach Angeli with the new Ninja Eclipse First Edition hanging out in the garage How we doing, buddy? Oh, just feeling fantastic, playing some Ninja Eclipse, hanging out with my pinball pals It has been, yeah, been a good day And to my left, to Zach's right, the boss man himself, Mr. Corbin Angeli Corbin, how we doing, buddy? I'm doing okay, I'm not sure why you like to use that phrase so much I like to use it because it makes you incredibly uncomfortable It does And it makes me remember whenever I'm going places and the people are like, hey, is Corbin with you? And I tell them no. And then they're just sad after that, that how important you are to this entire operation.

medium confidence · Corbin assessment: 'I would almost put the expression lights and what Turner is doing. I think they're neck and neck'

Kyle
person
Zach Angeliperson
Jeffperson
Brian Savageperson
David Van Nessperson
Charles Afonperson
Chris Turnerperson
Zach Angeli Brewing Companyorganization
Loser Kid Podcastorganization
Pin Brew 2025event
Texas Pinball Festival (TPF)event
MadPinball.comorganization
  • ?

    announcement: Dune officially launched by Barrels of Fun with minimal advance notice (one hour); two units shipped immediately to begin location placement

    high · Corbin's account of surprise Monday announcement while mowing grass; confirmation of Friday shipments

  • ?

    product_strategy: Barrels of Fun Horizon Lighting system features full four-sided integrated cabinet lighting with day/night theme integration for Dune, representing technical advancement over previous implementations

    high · Detailed technical discussion of routed cabinet-mounted lights with Dune's specific day/night cycle mechanics

  • ?

    product_concern: Dune code still very early in development at launch, with approval bottlenecks from Frank Herbert estate/licensor rather than incomplete feature set

    high · Multiple sources confirm code is 'very, very early' but blame lies with licensor asset approval rather than game design gaps

  • ?

    product_strategy: Barrels of Fun committed to hardware improvements (flat plastic topper upgrading to alternate glass backbox) and ongoing visual variant development

    medium · Discussion of standard topper with later upgrades and alternate back glass availability as post-launch options

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Initial community lack of enthusiasm for Dune announcement shifted to positive reception after details emerged, including immediate three-location pre-order rush

    medium · Hosts note 'everybody was a foregone conclusion' but 'didn't feel a ton of excitement' initially, then 'we immediately got a nice little jump of sales right out of the gate'

    • 2:57
    Suspicious. I'm riding west, riding west to western Ohio to near Dayton. And I'm dropping off a Metallica premium. And the person who I'm dropping off for calls and chatting about this, that and the other. And, oh, is Corbin coming? No, Corbin had other things. you had to take care of today oh and then five seconds later they hang up and have nothing else to say to me womp womp jeff how are you doing today i am doing i'm over the moon good i got all of my sunday stuff done on saturday so now i've got a free sunday free day whatever i want to get into it's gonna be it's gonna be wild times we'll loop them into some group chats oh boy i might get wild in the discord anybody who's in the spooky discord or the don's pinball podcast Discord. I might just go full-on Discord tomorrow. Who knows? Could get crazy. Sounds like a wild Saturday. We're just trying to get pre-broadcast. Just play one nice game on Ninja Eclipse and Jeff sent an email. I've got to. He fucking clocked in because the boss was here. No, somebody had messaged me about the Pinball Brothers for their Alien that they were doing some special deals on Alien Pinball for Alien Day, so I wanted to know. What the hell is Alien Day? Is it the day the movie came out? Or is it something that happened in that date? So it's going to be 4-25? Is that going to be the... Or 4-27? Tomorrow's 27. I have no idea. I've seen the movies, but I'm not aware of any really important dates. I still don't have any desires to get an alien, I don't think. I mean, playing them, I just don't know if I want one. Yeah. The location part of it scares me for those. Just the horror stories you hear. There are. I just don't know if you can... I mean, we run Spooky. We do. We run a lot of... I mean, this Ninja Eclipse is going to go out.
    4:45
    The Ninja Eclipse, I don't have concerns with. I think from when we had that prototype, I'm more worried about American games than I am this Ninja Eclipse. Barry O's. I think Chris, he built a solid game. I have no concerns putting this game out. No, after having that prototype out, I have no concerns. Yeah. Because we were talking about potential landing spots, And you had mentioned Cleveland, and obviously that's one of the furthest away from us to where it was like, no, I would have no issue with it going up there and thinking there are going to be reliability issues. Yeah. But speaking of the Discord, I did want to mention in the fact check here. He's starting his Discord mode. When we were talking about tools in the tool bag, the beard from Don's Pinball Podcast Discord mentioned that he, for his EM restorations, repairs and whatnot, keeps his EM pick adjustment tool and set in his. Have we seen a picture of his beard?
    5:41
    Is it just Don again? It's not Don. This gentleman is. He would fit around this table very, very well. So he's into hearses. That's cool. that guy he's into jukeboxes oh yeah okay i dig this guy he's involved uh what is the utility bag hold on hold on i just received that the pin yeah it is the missing pin company they make this really awesome bag so you're taking your game to a show or swapping with a friend or whatever and you want to keep your powder coated legs nice and yeah scratch free outlined inside they're divided up Fleece line, yeah, fleece. And it's divided into four little, like, little cozy spots for them. And then there's a spot for your bolts, and then it rolls up, and then has, like, a plastic clip and then a pull tight to roll it up and just have a nice little package. Imagine, like, you're a pool shark, like the thing that you would carry your pool. Or a tool kit, a roll-up tool kit. A cue. Yeah, a cue. Thank you. A pool kit. A pool stick thing. A pool stick rod. Things you hit a ball with. My pool rod. His pool boy outfit. Check out themissingpin.com. Hit your bubbles with it. They have several different options. They can customize the bags. They can do all kinds of different things for it. I wanted to get a sample just to check it out, and it's definitely a very, very cool item. But he's into all of these crazy things. Jukeboxes. Like, he sent me a picture. I think it was last weekend he was doing one of the jukeboxes that had, like, the wax tube in it instead of, like, a record or anything else. Oh, okay, yeah. He gets into some of the wild stuff. Remember that cassette tape one we saw? Edison tube. Yeah, Edison record.
    7:22
    Remember that cassette tape one we saw? Wasn't it cassette tape in Dayton? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That one was crazy. Yeah. Because it had the awesome light show on the outside of it, too, with the kaleidoscope sort of effect. Would it play the entire side? Yeah. And it was good for the whorehouses, so you can get the whole side. Continuous music. Yeah, makes sense, makes sense. That's what they told us. that's what they thought sales pitch uh so we already briefly touched on it but let's talk a little bit more about ninja eclipse so our uh first edition arrived last tuesday corbin you and i brought it over here to the zach angeli brewing company and dropped it off for the summer it's opening up for the summer hours zach set it up and what are your uh first impressions zach i like it it's a lot of fun this is the first time i got to like play with the music turned up and like in a dark setting the uh lights on top the glass is pretty cool with like the modes and stuff they can do with that they had a cool um like lightning storm mode that i really liked i haven't gotten too deep into it it's come a long way from the the frame lights the integration yeah last time we had it at least um i really like looping that ramp shot over and over with that upper flipper yeah and i thought the scoops passing back and forth between well not back and forth but Up to it. The scoop-to-scoop. Yeah, scoop-to-scoop pass was pretty neat. It goes from the kickback to the scoop to the other scoop. The scoop to the scoop to the upper flipper. So it worked its way up the ladder. So obviously you've only played a handful of games on it to this point, but initial impression on build quality, snappiness of the flippers. Flippers felt great. Build quality seemed solid.
    9:06
    The cabinet build itself to me was reminiscent of the cabinets, the physical cabinet itself of the big lebowski where it's like all the layers yes because when i have the glass off to put the balls and that that thing lifts completely off and no one you know you're unfamiliar with it the whole frame the whole frame and everything system it it has uh gm technology like a window defroster on a hatch you guys know what that is yeah and i was also contact point yeah it was cool to see after having the prototype in for a run all of the little upgrades that they did, even going from the machine screws that were holding the head on now to the heavy-duty bolts and the plastics and whatnot that they used on this production model for the dojo and whatnot. Yeah, and we're printing actual, you know, all the prototype pieces for it right now. Yeah, so Zach's printing a dojo. He's already printed a couple of the... Spinner arches, I would call them. Yeah, spinner arches, and those came out very, very nicely. Thank you, thank you. They'll be getting, the game will be getting some of these upgrades. I wonder what the reason was that they strayed away from doing the integrated glass and the lockdown and the side rails back in the day. So what, 60s EMs were like that. They did that, yeah. To just the new ships. It's like your Safari happened. Well, if you break a glass, it's a lot more, you know, easier to slide in our glass and then take that frame apart, I assume. Yeah. I mean, serviceability, like, even like one of those. So it's tempered glass now, right? Correct. So back before it was tempered glass, if it was in that frame, glasses broke all the time. My dad would talk about it was standard to carry one or two behind the seat of the truck. What was it, like 1963 they started doing more tempered? He said that they would literally carry them in the truck until that point, and then they just started replacing them. They got cases and cases of them because everything, as they broke, they just replaced them. It is a very convenient thing. You still find them every once in a while, and it's just like you can't. You feel them. They feel different. Yeah, and they crack so easy.
    11:07
    I love it. So I wonder if that's why they stopped doing it, because back then when it was the glass that would break easy, and then you had the whole frame, and it was a whole big deal. Take it all apart and just grab one. Which is also crazy when he's talking about, like, oh, we keep a couple sheets of glass behind the seat of the truck. Hey, aren't you cleaning the glass out behind the truck? What seat? Like, what are you talking about? Like, it was safe back there? That's fine. Well, I know Chris Turner had said with this system that it's a standard piece of pinball glass that goes into that frame. So can we just loosen the frame up? I assume bolts, because you can see welded press and studs on top. So you'd probably just loosen it up from the bottom and put a new piece in if you had to. There's decals and stuff on that glass. I don't see a whole lot. I mean, it would be hard on the glass. I don't know. I'd be hard-pressed to figure out a situation where that would break. Exactly, because you're never sitting it on the edges of the glass. The corners are shabby. It's within the frame. That's what I'm saying. In its powder coat. Unless you're dropping a cinder block on it. Twisting the frame crazily or something. Something extreme, yeah. Extreme forces, but in theory should stay. So Kyle, usually you're brutally honest about games, whether good, bad, or indifferent. What are kind of your first impressions after flipping a game or two on it?
    12:15
    The lighting is so improved. Like, the lighting is phenomenal on that game. I honestly thought it had HD glass or something because of the way those stadium-esque lights are. It's all around. It's in the top and bottom, too. Yeah, but it seems like it cancels out. It's almost like the GI lighting for it. It is, it is. Yeah. Well, it's so cool when it went into that lightning mode, or I forget what the mode specifically was called. I'm calling it lightning mode. Yeah, but there's the lightning sound effects going on, and the lighting around that frame then was programmed to simulate that sort of effect. Yeah, but even like the attract mode lighting and everything, that was very cool. It was very JCP. Imagine if you took that frame apart and put a PDI or a clear whatever. You could. You could put a standard piece of glass. Absolutely. I mean, that thing's going to be mind-blowing to see that way through it. That's true. What did you think of shots? I know you've only put a couple games on it, but shots, flippers, all of that? Flippers felt fine.
    13:21
    I could tell already you were a fan of that upper flipper loop shot because I saw you repeating it a couple times. Who doesn't like it? It's repeatable. It's so satisfying. Then after you get good at it, you're just like, let's see if I can hit that drip target instead. Right? Yeah. It seems like in some of the modes, there's a lot involved with the captive ball, and you can hit that either from the bottom flippers or that upper one.
    13:43
    Yeah. Corbin, early impressions? So I guess before I do the impressions, the one thing I was just thinking about with this lighting system. So we look at all the different companies' lighting systems. The one that they're talking about on Dune, is this going to be a full-frame deal? Correct. Like, similar to this. Except it's not in the glass. It's into the cabinet. It's mounted on the cabinet? That's my understanding. Is it? So I'm wondering, then, is it coming up off? So we think, so then we have American that has just down the sides, but it's mounted to the playfield. Or a lighting. Or a lighting, which I like that it's mounted to the side rails. It picks up with the playfield. So I'm wondering, is Barrels of Fun going to be mounted to the playfield? Charles Afon's version is called Horizon Lighting. It's routed into the cabinet, so along the top. A recessed deal, so kind of like an expression light type, like stern expression light, but all four sides. And it's not, so Don was talking about it. He and I were talking about this a little bit. Did he see it when he was in? He did. Because he went to Texas. And he was saying it's very, very cool in Dune because that movie has a day and a night cycle. So when you're in the day cycle, it gives you the warm whites and the bright or whatever. Now it's a night cycle, and now it goes down to like a blue shimmer. That's cool. And you can do all kinds of different effects with it and whatnot. And he was saying that they weren't guaranteeing this would be in every game going forward, just like expression lights aren't always, but only when it's appropriate for the theme. Makes sense. Which I thought was really cool. Okay, so it's a routed out. If they can do something that's even a tenth of what Turner's made, it'll look great. The day-to-night cycle reminded me a little bit of the Eclipse thing that they did in Avatar for JJP. Yeah, or the Underground, or Upside Down for Stranger Things. Exactly. Oh, the Upside Down. But those are pinball moments for me, and those are things that, when they happen, are exciting, especially the first time it happens. You're like, oh, shit, it just went to the Upside Down. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Oh, man. I remember that for sure. I hit the Eclipse ramp on Avatar, and everything just went freaking ballistic on it. The Upside Down is so special because there's no way to activate it. It's so random.
    15:48
    You play for how long and it won't play, but if I'm like, boom, I got it, you're like, yes, this is great. So, I mean, this is kind of the perfect opportunity then to talk about Barrels of Fun and Dune. It's one to where it felt like everybody was a foregone conclusion that it was coming, that this was the game.
    16:05
    I didn't feel a ton of excitement necessarily for it out there on social media and in the community, but then it gets announced. the information gets out there and we immediately got a nice little jump of sales right out of the gate. The more we talk about it and the more I look at things about it, the more I'm tempted to order one. I wonder, do you think part of the lack of the hype was Kong came out? Kong was knocking on the door. And Harry Potter. They keep dangling Harry Potter. J.J.P. keeps dangling Harry Potter.
    16:37
    He's in the invisibility cloak. He's here. We're not sure when he's going to come out I honestly felt like in March the most buzz for all of pinball was with Evil Dead. That's what everyone was talking about. At Pimber, Evil Dead's played two of them nonstop the whole show. I did not see it. I didn't work on it. We didn't work on it at all, and they didn't stop playing at all. We updated code early on Friday. That's right. We did put a code on it. And Jeff and I put mods on the one, on Jared's. On Jared's, which ended up, that game ended up winning. Best Modern at Pin Brew for 2025. Oh, really?
    17:16
    Let's back up a little bit, though. So we were on Dune again. Yeah, let's continue. We already jumped off from the other talk. We finished up Ninja Eclipse. We're good. I wanted to finish my talk about lighting. Do it. Do it. So then there's JJP with their thing, right? Their Hot Rails. So I just want to compare them all real quick. Then we have Penn Stadium, Neil Adam, Gio, Extremes. I think everybody knows my opinion So what's the best?
    17:42
    There's a lot of advantages There's a lot of disadvantages Maybe we don't have to get deep into this I like the topic Anything that is manufacturer Made and integrated Into the game is automatically superior To me to pin stadiums or pin lights Or anything else because I don't have to mess With them when I lift the playfield Exactly I forget every time I smack them out Right, I'm glad they're on magnets. So when you have the shining on the JGP versus, like, the shining down. I like the shining down. What do you think? I like the down. And also, though, with Bloodstaff and Foo Fighters, it's like a state, like, you're at a concert. Correct. The side makes sense. Yes. Where the, it would make sense for, like, mood lighting, how, like, a top of Ninja Clips. Yeah, it's, for the expression lights on, like, Foo or whatever, like, I feel like it's more, like, of accent lighting. Yes. And it's not necessarily trying to, like... Light the play field. It's like Christmas lights on your wall and not Christmas time. Yeah. But, like, aura lighting or, like, even on JJPs, when it's facing down and it's attached to the play field, it looks really good. It's just, like, cool lighting, but it's not, like, lighting... It's not setting the mood like Ninja Eclipse. Well, the Hot Rails on JJP, for me, some games I love it and other games I'm like, it doesn't really work for me. So Toy Story, I think it's awesome. Yeah, we're cool in Toy Story. It adds to the carnival vibe. All of that is cool. But then I look at a game like Godfather, and do I need blues and purples? Elton John I like it on. Elton John makes sense. It's more of a lively. Yeah, obviously. GNR, it works. But then it's like Godfather and Avatar. It's just because Avatar, everything is so blue and green in there. When you use any color outside of that on the hot rail, it's just so disconcerting. It's like, why is this war over here? And all of that. I love these. I love the factory versions. I'm not sure that... As long as they're coded into the gameplay, that's the key for me. So which system is the... Which one do you like? I haven't seen Horizon in person, so I'll reserve judgment on barrels until I see that. I'm intrigued by the idea, though. I am intrigued by the idea. I love them on GTF. I love them. And I have them like... I think I have them on 4 or 5. like not bright and it's like the perfect amount and they just stay white no they're interactive but they're not like overly blinding I like the Americans I just the one of them I was working on I feel like they came out of the wood like they stripped out pretty quick oh yeah they definitely not attached well so that my only concern you already bought an American ball game as long American football game Right right Okay okay As long as we all taking that into consideration Yeah yeah yeah The thing I like about the Turner thing is like that very secure That's very... Absolutely. And it's all encompassed. It's very cleanly done. And even what it sounds like. Super clean. Sounds like Burrows of Fun's going to do this. I'm very excited to see theirs, yeah. Yeah. I need more time on this new, this production version of Ninja Eclipse to give my full judgment, but I would almost put the expression lights and what Turner is doing. I think they're neck and neck. My initial reaction is very impressed with it. Same. What got me thinking about all this? Last night, well, whatever night, when I shut the lights off and started playing that thing, it was like, oh, wow, this is sweet. Yeah, yeah. Okay, that's all I wanted to talk about. No, that's a great topic. I did like this Penn Stadiums on Jetsons because it did set the mood, the colors. We all know Jetsons is just a beautiful game. It's so pretty. I feel like Jetsons would be a good opportunity. I got bad news for you. Well, we can put just the basic. I have a set of pin lights that we can put in there, and they'll just be the white to just brighten everything up as opposed to. That was my first fix on Jetsons when I slept last night and took the pin stadiums out and set them on the ground. All fixed up. So, Dune. Yeah, let's put a bow on Dune. We talked about it a little bit here. The launch kind of felt a little rushed. Out of left field, literally, I'm out cutting the grass one Monday night at 5.30 p.m., and it's, hey, in an hour, we're launching the game. It's like, all right, let's go. And I didn't know what to expect. And right out of the gate, we had three locations in Ohio here that reached out to us and said, hey, let's get an early one. Let's get it coming. It wasn't me. Yeah, and it wasn't you. Has anybody seen anything bad about, like, labyrinths on location or anything? No. Labyrinths? No, in terms of reliability. Like, just reliability? There's some weird ball stick spots, but, I mean, just like anything. Nothing crazy. You know what the other complaint I hear a lot about? One coin shoot? One coin shoot. Yeah. It's a single coin shoot. It does okay I mean it runs I mean as far as reliability Yeah yeah no it seems to be okay So with this one We're looking at They shipped I think two on Friday of this past week We're recording on a Saturday I think maybe this might be our first Saturday recording ever It's not our first Saturday recording ever No way First that's got released to the world First one that will ever grace your ears There may have been other ones Who are deep in the archives But two of them went out on Friday Did you see all those? Alright cool just checking Anytime I'm yes yes yes We can listen to one when Corbin dies The one when Corbin dies at the end He died No some ones coming out on location They were talking about landing here In the next four weeks so as soon as we have those in And those locations have them We will obviously promote them through Social medias and likely On this podcast as well but They're coming. They're coming quickly. Don was down there. Colin from the Kineticist was down there. I have heard from several of them, and they were all impressed with what was going on, you know, build quality-wise, theme integration. The only quip that I heard whatsoever was the code is very, very early. So that was the one. You'll have that with anything. I feel like you will. I feel like everything I saw and read, though, was more like it's a licensor issue than it doesn't exist. Yeah, and I listened. Two loser kids on my way out to Western Ohio earlier this week, and they had a deep dive with Brian Savage and David Van Ness, and they were saying that the license around this has been phenomenal in the sense of giving them all the assets they want, whether it's video clips or music. But it all has to be approved. Iber is pretty loaded with stuff. I feel like we didn't skimp out on that. But this feels like why it wasn't at TPF was the code was waiting. There were things waiting to be approved. They've always been, like, if you think about it with Labyrinth, they really waited until it was, like, they felt like it was, like, public fool ready. So I'm sure. I don't think that's a bad idea. And the terrorists will come after you, if not. They will. They're going to come after you either way. Sure. But it might increase your.
    24:31
    Your likelihood of success. I'm just curious to actually play it. Yeah. 100%. Is it going to be a three-hour movie play? I mean. I did hear from down there that it was a little bit of a long player type game. It's got to be, right? Yeah. Because the toys on it look crazy. I mean, you have the sandworm that comes out of the play field, the sandworm that sucks the ball into the play field, all kinds of deferters. It does, like, several different things. You've got deferters for different. It's like a ringmaster kind of deal. That's exactly what it reminded me of. When we first saw it, that's exactly. It locks the ball, shoots the ball out, gets bashed. You've got your lift ramps going on. I mean, there's nothing that I saw in this game that, oh, that's a flat plastic, like everything is molded. Definitely all mold. I mean, they're pricing it at an LE. So you get their anti-reflective glass. It's loaded. 11.6. Yeah. Pretty much. 12.9. 11.6. Well, once you get shipping and the whole kit and caboo. I don't know. Still. Because it comes with a flat plastic topper, and then later you can upgrade the topper. There's going to be another alternate back glass. So, I mean, once you kind of put everything on it, you're approaching LE. Is that actually a back glass in all versions, though? There is, yes. So the standard version comes with an actual back glass. Yeah, Labyrinth was glass. They're both glass. Did you get the alternate for these two? Yeah, yeah, yeah. How did we find out they were actual glass? It's crazy that they went back. Like, you think about it, back in the EMs were all painted, right? And then they went to translights. Now they're going back to painted glass again. I think the glass just adds... Yeah, it just adds a certain... It adds depth to it. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. It's so beautiful. And it's not like... I wouldn't know any company that does that. Corwin, we just replaced the fire in Space Station. All day long. Every single one of them. Every single one. And they were so faded. And something like the glass painting. Oh, Fire and Space Station were both super faded, yeah. So faded. And then these new ones aren't. I mean, they're not going to peel like the old ones. They have painting down at this point. And hopefully. So I would assume at least Jeff at this table has seen the new Dune movies. I have. I've seen both of the new Dune movies. I've seen them, yes. Not seen the new ones. Yeah, yeah. I think I saw it on theater, actually. What? When? When it came out. Random. Whenever it came out. They're on HBO Max if you have access to HBO. They were like two years apart. Yeah, so when will Dune 2 go? Last summer? Yeah, Dune 2 was last summer, and then the original Dune was supposed to be like COVID times, but then theaters were shut down, and it got delayed. How many hours long are they? It's like two and a half hours each. There's a lot. You can do an episode if you wanted. Yeah, there's a lot going on. So Dune, if you're interested, you want to put a deposit in on one, you have to have it. email Corbin at MadPinball.com Or if you think I should get one for us, just go ahead and email me that too. Corbin is our Barrels of Fun liaison.
    27:18
    I'm excited to play it though. Without a doubt. I think once again, we're going to get one. Of course you're going to get one. But I'm just saying, it's probably like a home arcade thing. Oh yeah, this is a collectible. The problem with the challenge with Labyrinth is I think when you put it in comparison to some of these other locations. It's just not... It just doesn't get played.
    27:43
    It's a good game. I like it. I'm surprised it doesn't do better. Well, with some of these themes, like a labyrinth... It's not a Looney Tunes. I feel like Dune's a bigger theme than Labyrinth. I agree. I think Labyrinth is much more niche than what Dune is. I think Dune has a further reach. But time will tell. We'll find out. I appreciate them even going after the license.
    28:04
    I mean, that's a fucking... I enjoy all these different companies going after all these different licenses in such different directions. It is. It's always like, it's a real guessing game of like, well, Spooky's got Evil Dead. Let's go get Dune. Right, exactly. But that's not even how licensing really does it. Jeff is going to will. It's not reactive like that. Jeff is going to will My Little Pony into existence. Dude, whenever I put that post up, I still see people mentioning it. You know, Bug and Luke, man, if you guys are listening, get some My Little Ponies coming. continuing with the fact check someone messaged in Corbin we need you we need a hot key of your voice saying you're a wizard Harry for the board because apparently they picked that out of the podcast that when we were talking about Harry Potter you must have done a very special you're a wizard Harry I must have so we're going to need that to get onto one of the hot keys and then let's see someone, people like to make fun of me, so there was a message that came in on Facebook Messenger of Jeff quote-unquote blowing up games. And I just want to put it out there. Like toilets? It's not like that at all. Oh, different, okay. I've stayed in hotels with you, it's just like that. It's just like that. For all of these that I have referenced, I have witnesses. Avatar happened in public at Unhitched with people standing around. Factor fiction.
    29:33
    Was the glass on? I don't remember. I saw the glass off He was hitting a few switches Couple bill on that game Score still stands What was that score though? I don't think it says Jeff does it? It says not someone I'm pretty sure there wasn't any levelers on the back of the leg D&D LE at the Stern Factory With the designer and the coder They're like this doesn't work I saw it It was true life Zach saw it It was a pretty epic moment At Zaki's house on Wednesday whenever I was testing his D&D premium. I was fixing something. GC. I look around like, you putting GC up on his premium right now? And he's like, yep. When Kyle and I were playing Black Knight Swords of Rage at my house today. Leisurely. Did you put a high score up today? GC, baby. GC, dude. 300 million. He didn't even sign in. He's just like, whatever. I'm going to play this. Kyle's going to go home. Whatever. So I just want to put it out there, haters. He doesn't even have a home team. I'm far from a professional, But every once in a while, even a blind squirrel finds a nut, and that is my pinball playing tactic. Speaking of, should we shout out North Canton Mike Bear? We should. Go ahead. TNA, baby. Tell the story.
    30:44
    I wasn't even there Friday night. Friday night, we were mid. Okay, so Friday before Mike started the tournament. Pin Brew 2025. We were mid, and we were mid soccer tournament, and Mike came up. Oh, we haven't even told him about the soccer game yet. Hoover Pinball League, North Canton Mike Bear, not to be confused with Pittsburgh Mike Bear. Different Mike Bears. So Friday during the day, you were there. I was. And Mike was playing our TNA, our personal Timmy. Shared custody between Kyle and I. Were you there when you got the high score?
    31:14
    We're alluding to something. Different one, different one. Okay, sorry, sorry, sorry. So Friday night, he's over there playing, and I'm at an event with my wife of why I'm not at Pinbrew, and he's texting me, Oh, man, I just had, like, the greatest game of TNA ever. put up whatever number a million points he came up so jacked up this number of reactors he was like god it was like and i only got high score number one i was like a hundred thousand away from gc i'm like oh man glad you didn't get it because now we don't have to worry about it blah blah blah blah so since i wasn't there friday night super late like everyone else i got there early saturday morning so right when the show was opening literally mike bear is on that game saturday Rocking it first thing in the morning Blowing up reactors And he set the GC Fuck yeah He texted me at like 9.30 A picture of it He was so jacked up the night before So I can only imagine how jacked up he was When he took that in the morning It's such a good feeling I just want you to know Hoover Pinball League Mike Bear Timmy's getting set up at my house And I'm coming for you I'm like I'll take Timmy And Jeff's like, yeah, you take Timmy, whatever. And he's like, ah, I forgot. Mike Mayer put that GC on there. I've got to get that off. Things have got to be done. Pull the batteries. Work to do. Maybe he'll pull a stern out of his basement. Accidentally. Whose? Oh, you're right. It's like stern trying over there, dude. What, at my house? He's trying to get Gamer of the Month. Zach, he got it. He did. He had a framed picture of his. It was impressive. Dude, if I won. You've got to frame that shit for sure. I'd get a banner printed. I want it a little bigger. Full banner, without a doubt. The big size check status.
    33:03
    Jeff's basement is like, might as well just be Gary Stern. Okay, but my other room is... I'm going to get him that cardboard. Never mind. Strange science. I'm getting that cardboard cut out for him. TNA. Usually dominoes.
    33:16
    Boring man. No Good Gophers was in there. Come on, give me a little credit. You want that next, Jim?
    33:24
    The one that's coming in? Not that one. No, no. You can see. Can your power grid handle it? Maybe. My house might be the only house. Well, we're on the subject of pin brew. Let's talk a little more pin brew here. Let's talk soccer game. Let's tell the story of the soccer game. For Jeff's house. Oh, that's not too bad, dude. Grandpa Gary? Yeah, for sure. We are going to play a Metallica Ellie. Thursday night. Keith was just looking for a fight about that. He was so riled up. Keith wanted a fight for sure. So we walk up to it And the guy had on Quarter play It's like Not quarter play It was you know He didn't want anybody to play Basically he was displaying His mods That are available He wanted like 17 It's L.E. So you know He can't be played Anyway So we walk away All pissed off Keith was worked up I really didn't care I saw this giant thing Soccer Rolling in the door I didn't know what it was It was just It was like Seven feet long The guy's just rolling in I'm like what's this Had big handles on it So we walk over And we're like hey, what's going on with this? This is Thursday night.
    34:29
    Right off the rip. What time do you think it is? Like 8.30? Yeah, probably. Let's just, a little background. Me and Jeff rolled in, what, we got there about 8.30 in the morning. Correct.
    34:42
    You got there about 10.30, 11, as usual. Keith and I got there a little later in the bus. Corbin had to take caution because he had no windshield wipers on the way to Pinbrew. And it was raining and I was hauling the 45-foot trailer or whatever. So, anyway. So, mind you. Hey, we got him out there. Nothing moved. We're beautiful. Just mind you. It's a long day. I just want everybody to know. Yeah, we're doing good. I thought we were doing pretty good. We were doing fine. We did fine. Yeah, we were hanging out, having fun. So, we go over there. We talk to this guy. The show opens at what? 4 p.m.? 3 o'clock for VIPs. 4 o'clock for the general public. And we were selling cups at that time. Anyways, we go over and we start talking to this guy. Like, what is this thing? Oh, this soccer game. Blah, blah, blah. I'm like, what are you doing with it? He's like, oh, I think I'm selling it. I'm like, well, does it work? He's like, yeah. I'm like, well, what would you need out of this? He's him hauling around. He's like, I don't know. Like, I got like $250. Yeah, $250. Right. $250, my mind goes to $250, $2,500. That's what I was waiting for. So we're like, well, let's plug it in. We're interested. So we help him haul it to a wall, plug it in, play a game, and hand it over to $250. The Hardtop guys let us share their booth with us. Shout out to the outside of Hardtop. I want to back up a little bit about you guys wheeling it into our booth. I'm sitting at the booth. With Kyle.
    36:05
    Corbin and I made this purchase. 12 plus hours. Mind you, we set up 12 plus hours. You guys didn't get your naps. No fucking naps. I never napped, ever. What? You were missing out on my... I leave the house before 8 and sometimes I get back till after. I don't understand. I just want people to understand. Yeah, go on, go on, go on. The amount of... So they're sitting over there sleeping or whatever. Yeah, we're sitting there sleeping. We're out there prowling, looking for deals.
    36:33
    Doing the Lord's work. Doing the Lord's work, did you say? We're sitting easy, like 100k worth of brand new pinballs in our booth. Yeah, and I played all those. Yeah, because you helped us haul them there And all of a sudden Keith comes running in front of me and goes Hey Jeff, how do you feel about soccer? And I'm like, I'm not sure how this is topical Like World Cup soccer And I look up and here's Corbin On a boat Literally, with the biggest smile on his face ever What will we just buy?
    37:10
    I've never seen you two So happy in your entire life Dude, we wired in a switch then? So the game is called International Shootout.
    37:20
    Describe it a little bit. It's a two-player game. It's approximately I laid down next to it and it was about a foot long. It was about seven feet long. That's what we figured. Four foot wide? No, not four foot. I'd say like two and a half to three. It's pretty narrow. You have like two big handles and it spins and there's paddles basically. With a hole in the middle. I'd say the ball is probably about the size of a peach, orange size. It's a little smaller than a skee ball. Smaller than a ski ball, bigger than a foosball for sure Bigger than a golf I'd say it's like a pool ball What are duck pin bowling Or duck pin bowls are bigger than that too They're like the puck bowl It's a weird size, I'd almost say like tennis ball It might be close to a tennis ball size Maybe a little smaller Anyway, so it pops up And then each side basically You spin your paddles From there it's like foosball you could say It's a hybrid of foosball and air hockey that all happens inside of a seven-foot-long coffin. Yeah. Best of seven, winner take all. It lights up from underneath. It's pretty cool. And it only shoots out the right side. Right. Yeah. So, like, it auto-serves, like, very softly, and then that person gets it back. Yep. And you smack the shit out of this thing. You get the spin attack on. We ended up doing a tournament. There was a lot of different techniques we saw. And those people were hardcore on it. People were getting into it. Susan, dude. Oh, Susan was, like, she was hard. She was hardcore. I saw a pretty epic picture of Jason Kreitzar and Dave Boucher playing each other. They were as well. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that looked serious. I mean, we got like $100 worth of jib-jab hot dogs. We had a hot dog at the beach. Feed the people. After the tournament. It was some good hot dogs. Yeah, no, the soccer game was one of the highlights of Pembroke. You literally said that you guys had people asking, are you going to bring this again next year? We had people ask, and we were also like told that we were bringing it. It's like, we'll see. So the company that made this was called Design Plus Industries, and it came out around late 90s, early 2000s. I found the date code on the back. It was a lot older than I – when we got it, like, I was thinking, like, I don't know why, but I'm like, this is like an 80s. I thought like 95, 94. It just felt so mechanical. Well, the technology on it was very basic. Like very early 90s Sega kind of deal. There was a power supply and a board. And the board basically did your scoring and – Opto-Z. It basically had, like – Coin. You could run it off of a 16-opto driver or less because it's like opto for each end, quarters, like what else? That's it. So production cost on something like this, you know. It's wonderful. It had more than wood probably. That's what I'm saying. It's more mechanical than anything else. All that M.E.F. is going to cost you some money. Well, I'd say the most heavy-duty part of that game were the handles for your paddles. They were like a heavy-duty. Was it like a plastic though? The gears looked almost plastic. The gears looked plastic. Maybe nylon. Yeah, it was like a very. The paddles were like a plastic. I'll tell you what, we may want to think about copying all that now before it breaks. Scanning it all. Scan them now, that way, when something goes wrong. If anybody knows anything about 3D scanners, Ben, I'm looking at you. Please let us know. We're in the market for one. Just email us. We'll buy it. Yeah, yeah. We just need to know what to get. I need some direction. Freshpinball.gmail.com. Thank you. I thought the materials that it was made of was like a hockey puck. I don't know. I never really felt those types. It wasn't super hard, but it was a little bit malleable. Yeah, and I did add a screw where it could keep the playfield from coming out. But overall, pretty cool piece. Jason helped us fix it, too. Shout out to him. Jason's a good dude. Yeah it was an overall great piece People enjoyed it I just love seeing the interactions It just a fun piece I always love hanging out with our Toledo people They always a good time Oh yeah yeah But this Design Plus Industries made that piece and then several different versions of basically ball bowlers modern ones where it would be a small bowling ball that you roll down an alley and then hit some switches that then cause pins on strings to go up and reset and all of this stuff. But this international shootout was kind of their last hurrah. I don't know if they I want another one dude it's all I had a blast with it I don't know if they already had a foot in the ground or what was going on I know we've already like super described it if you have one for sale it reminds me so much the art on it is like flipper football yes 100% flipper football it's like the same fucking game we should put them next to each other whenever I first like saw it too like I was immediately like I thought it was Capcom at first like I didn't know maybe Python like was did something random drunk like random and he just helped some dude design it like it varies like the art on it We'll do a deeper dive. Like, hey, you know, we can make a game. Yeah. Whatever you would do. You spin the pedals, it smacks the ball. Oh, it smacks the ball. Yeah, we'll put some cool art. Other things from Pimber, though. So that was definitely one of my favorite things. Interacting with everyone always with the Spookys is always a great time. The Rob Zombie experience was, of course, I thought, another hit of the booth as far as Spookys. Evil Dead's were huge. Huge. The Tapper, too. Perfect pour. I saw people playing that nonstop. Everybody was playing with the pee-pee. I also want to say the Pittsburgh the gaming guys that they brought their stuff Pittsburgh Arcade Collective I thought they really killed it there was a bunch of cool games for Mike's and the other guys apparently in Pittsburgh they only believe in Mike's to be a part of the Pittsburgh Arcade Collective or whatever it is do you have to be named Mike? Mike Massaro, Mike Bear, Mike Huff there were more Mike Hover? Anybody who's from Pittsburgh, I'm just going to start calling Mike. I mean, you have a good chance of being right. Is this Mike? Oh, yeah. But they did an awesome setup over there of arcade games, but their main piece over there was they had four Ms. Pac-Man machines. Pac-Tac. Yeah, which they did these timed Ms. Pac battles where four players start exactly at the same time and who can have the highest score at the end of four minutes or seven minutes or 12 minutes. And the neat thing with it was they had monitors up above it to where people that were observing could see exactly what was going on and watch different people's strategies for trying to achieve the highest score in a time limit. So as opposed to being, oh, I can make it all the way to the kill screen, that doesn't matter. It matters how many points can you get in the least amount of time. And in the pressure. And also if you die, would it start back over? So if you die, then you can continue, but your score starts all over again. If you're like, this is my best game, I'm stopping. Exactly. Because if there's like 20 seconds left and you had a really good game, you might as well just stop. Exactly. Okay, makes sense. So it's a really cool, definitely, it was an awesome addition to the show. Yes, I loved it. People were very, very happy. And they also had, what, I don't know, 15, 20 games just hanging out. Classic arcades. A couple rows back to back, yeah. The boys were loving it over there. They had fighters. They had shooters. They had single player games. All the drivers. Yeah. I look forward to doing more stuff with them. Oh, without a doubt. Without a doubt. Oh, the rest of the show was very good, too. I enjoyed the multi-morphic booth. They had a Princess Bride in there, which I had played before. The cake was just, I didn't like that cake. You were mad because you couldn't have the cake. Yeah, it haunted me. So there was a portal there, and I guess one of the jokes in Portal, the video game, is that I didn't know it was a video game. What, unquote, the cake is a lie.
    44:37
    So there was a cake, a physical cake, in the booth that said I'm not into any game that cake is a lie. I saw that on the play field, too. Yes. So on the extended edition of this game, which is what they had at the show, there is when you come back. What do you mean the extended edition? So the extended edition gets you all of that stuff over top of the LCD itself. So there's an option. Oh, yeah. The regular edition is a traditional multi-morphic where everything's in the back. And that one's like six grand. How much extra is the extended edition? It's $2,000. No, I thought it was like $3,000. It's a lot, dude. It's a lot for the extended edition. It's fucking grand for that model. The game actually felt like it was more like a real game. That's why we liked it, but you had to spend a shit ton of money on it. Right. All of the extended edition covers above the LCD. But it was cool. Norton and I had a blast on it with all the different ball paths, and when it returned the ball down the left-hand side, you could hit one of the six flipper buttons to then send it across. It was a cake I wasted, too. No one ever ate that cake. I wanted the cake. Keith Campanelli, myself, and Marvin almost ate the cake on Saturday night after we left.
    45:43
    Saturday night. Oh. Yeah, you guys packed up and were gone, and I was eyeballing that cake. That was my main motivation for hanging back. Maybe this cake can be mine. Interesting. But the multi-morphic booth I thought was cool.
    45:59
    Chicken parm sandwich is delicious. Okay, what about my – The food truck game was strong. Oh, food truck game is always strong. Oh, so good. What about my discovery of my high school – This one blew my mind. Okay, so we were all hanging out on the bus with people that we hang out all the time with, the cooks. Literally for years. For years. Cooks and Lazars. The cooks and Lazars. We were all hanging out on the bus and whatnot, and we're talking, and somehow it comes up. Somebody says something about high school and blah, blah, blah, and Lindsay says – A bunch of similar names start – No, no. She just literally says something about Glen Oak. Start talking about graduation year or something. I'm like, oh, I graduated from Glen Oak in that year. and she's like so did i and it turns out lindsey and i graduated so then of course i went home and found my yearbook and it's a fact yeah you were so proud the next day yeah it was uh yeah i know so we graduated i think i don't i i didn't see i kind of remember now it's just not i didn't see much of it but it was like oh it's actually been in here this year and like whatever oh yeah i wasn't in the yearbook that you know he's on the not pictured list yeah so upon further investigation you guys can tell me whether or not this was the case when you were at glen oak so i get the newsletter for noren he goes there now yeah like when i went to high school i had to get my own senior photos taken and then i gave them to correct well now they do it to where there are three days where you come to the high school during the summer and they take the picture for you so when you went you had to get your own yeah that makes way more sense maybe you could i don't know but like they just had guidelines so i remember it was like you had to the white backdrop and it had to be by certain pixel standards and you had to have certain attire on or whatever, but you just did it. Because I think, didn't Uncle Mitch do it like the one in my mom's sewing room or something?
    47:50
    Some back white wall or something. Yeah, I remember the wall was the key. I need one where I'm like spooning a liger or holding nunchucks and like a bow staff on the other side. But no, I imagined when I saw that for Norn, well maybe Zach just missed the day where he had to go to the school to get that wasn't my senior year though that was your junior he was my junior so i missed picture day somehow but don't they do picture day like multiple times a year yeah no clue i mean they took they had to make but you were also but he was also yeah he might have been at home and when you're in the like the automotive shop you're off site and i feel like and like that was probably part of the thing with lindsey like once you're in those like so i was a swimmer she was a cosmo girl and like i feel like once you get in those little bubbles or whatever. Totally different world. But she was like best friends, and she's still as best friends with a swimmer. So it's Carly, which we were good friends with, so it's like crazy. It is crazy. It was so funny. That's an awesome connection. It's always great whenever the cooks and the lazars can all get together and come out to a show. Always a good time. Always a fun time. We had all... We're going to all play pinball together sometime. I need to get out to Arizona to get to the electric bath. You don't get to go there. That's a goal. It's kind of an invite-only kind of thing. Oh, man. Come on. I've gone. Kyle's gone. Cale and Rachel probably disagree with you. Let's go, Jeff. Yeah, come on. Zach and I will go. We're on the road. We're hitting the road. Get in the bus. Let's load up. Let's go. That's a haul. See you in three days. 40 hours later. Yeah. It'll be the two of us. It'll be fine. It'll be fine, dude. We can switch on the fly. It's fine. I think we'll be down. I'll take it easy on the brakes. Long haul. Dude, when you're in one of those highways, though, you don't need brakes. I cried out, but I'm flying back.
    49:28
    Other highlights of Pinbrew, the compulsive pinball stern booth was impressive, as always. They had a ton of new in-box games that they cracked open and had out for everyone to enjoy over the weekend. Coin Taker rolled in and brought a bunch of their normal mods and LEDs and accessories and things like that. So very productive on that end. and then obviously where you guys pulled the international super shootout from. That's the whole picker end where they go out and they buy stuff and then bring it to shows to sell, which was definitely a fun time. We didn't buy that EM with a play field under it, so I thought it would be good. I was going to. We forgot about it. I decided I didn't. I got that cocktail table. We did buy a cocktail table. We also got the Super Soccer. You got that sweet English penny game. Talk about that penny game. That thing was very cool. What's it called? Allwin. Allwin? Okay. Allwin. So it's like basically. A-L-L-W-I-N. So you put a pence in it. One pence. And it gives you a ball. Which is bigger than a quarter. Oh, yeah. It's bigger than a dollar piece. Then it gives you like a. I got this Bahama coin today. I don't know. Was it like maybe a three-eighths ball? It's pretty small. Yeah, yeah. And it loads it in. And it's just like a spring. A thumb activated hammer. It hits it, and it spins around, and then it goes through some tines, and you win or you lose. So if you win, then you get your penny back. And your ball back. Correct. So you get an extra ball and a penny.
    51:04
    Very, very cool piece. It was at the booth. People were having a good time with that. People were fascinated by the pence. People were fascinated by the game itself. I had no clue. It's like one of those things that we see people with for sale or on display, but it's like no one ever gets like you don't ever just get to play it yeah it's yeah shout out brian johnson dude i was having weird brian always has the best also i bought something else from him that weekend oh oh yeah the topper i have the only world's only the best best one i galactic tank force aquatic topper from spencer's it's from spencer's did anybody uh has anybody printed them cows yet i i'm trying to find a good file Cowabunga 3D model of cow for me I can't Brian always has the coolest stuff he has those connections it's literally like a UFO thing and you fill it full of water the size is perfect for the top of the game it has balls in it the water does make me a little nervous on top of the game did the walking dead 3 head topper have actual water in it no way did it I don't know. We'll get one one day. Does he have one? I'm going to shake her and nudge her. I haven't had any water issues. Is it a pro?
    52:24
    Come on. No. Premium, baby. I was telling Jess, though, the way we can do it is maybe fill it through with epoxy or something. Resin or something.
    52:35
    Pretty cool. So the final little pin brew nugget for me is one of our sponsored players, Aaron Rich, who had won it back-to-back years, had won 23 and 24. He got knocked off the throne. He took home fourth place this year, so not the top spot. Still nothing to be ashamed of. Nothing to be ashamed of. Play better. Thank you. Still a good showing. But then over on the women's side,
    52:59
    Beck Gallagher from Pittsburgh, who we know through different avenues, she's on Hup Challenge and some of the other social media stuff, stopped by the booth and she's like, I'm really digging the colors of the shirts that you guys have this year because we had some very flamboyantly bright colors and whatever else, and she had flamboyantly bright colored hair. And I'm like, hey. Actually matched nicely. Yeah, you want a couple of these? She's like, yeah, if you give me an orange one, I'll wear it in the tournament. I'm like, yeah, do whatever. So she threw that shirt on, went over, and won the whole damn thing. The whole damn thing. Some people were saying it was partially because of the shirt. I mean, it had to be a contributing factor. Partially the shirt. I think it was the confidence factor at that point. The whole package. But good weekend for us. We moved some games. The Venom LE. We moved them all over. Found a home. We did. The John Wick LE. Went up to our friend Nick Lane at the Nickel City Pinball Club. I want to trade some hoodies or shirts. They got cool swag. They do. We need to figure that out. Should we do a fresh pinball shirt?
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    Okay. We could do a collab. Like fresh pinball with something else. Done. Well here's the thing since I'm going to jump topics again here But now that NudgeCast Is working with Mad Pinball and vice versa They're doing that collab shirt That's going to have Nudge and Mad Pinball That they're going to do And then Don was reaching out to me And saying he wanted to do a collab shirt With either Fresh Pinball or Mad Pinball Dang Shirts all around You think Don's deep enough in the Spooky that we could get Franchi to draw something Oh I bet we could So if you listen to Nudgecast Episode 10 with Bug from Spooky You'll catch Our debut with them And a very entertaining episode as well Where they debate with Bug Which are better, shooter rods Or launch buttons So there's no conclusion Basically at the end of the day There was a lot of People have their opinions I haven't listened to it It's a very entertaining episode but yeah there's some opinions there stiff rod that depends there's some that I don't mind but at the end of the day I do like the plunger shoot a rod so before we move on to something else Corbin any final takeaways from Pin Brew 2025 was the juice worth the squeeze I love doing that stuff I just like getting the games and interacting with people I couldn't believe how well everything ran this weekend Oh, everything did great. Everything went good. I mean, super appreciative of everyone that helped. I mean, it took all of us, but we kept it all going.
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    It was a good time. It's always fun just to hang out with everybody. Yeah. No, I thought it was a great time. Yeah. It was. It's definitely not something that just two people can put together and execute. There's no way it would have been possible just the two of us. I'm excited for what we have planned for next year. Do you want to tease maybe some early renderings of what might be coming for 2026 at Pinbrew? Yeah, I have no... Yeah, fucking... We're doing some TNA experience. That's right, we are. Yeah. We have a couple different ideas. We're already bouncing around a little bit to see how we're going to make it happen, but I think it's... It seems realistic. We'll still have the Rob Zombie experience, of course. Oh, no, this is in addition. We're just slowly taking over a little bit more square footage. Like, I like this Stone Age gamer guy. I do a lot. I felt so bad for them. We just moved it down a little bit. I think maybe we bump them a little bit. We'll get them a better prime spot because they don't want to be up in our corner anymore. We need that whole end at least. They were loving it, though, because I caught them over on TNA several times. I caught them on Simpsons several times. I don't think they were super mad that they had some awesome games. No, no, no. But we're slowly going to inch it all. So, yeah, stay tuned. There'll be more. We'll drop more hints as it starts to come together. But, I mean, I think we can, between us and our resources and everything, I think we can... I think we can put on something pretty epic. I think the trailer, the mobile move is going to be – we'll talk about this later, but I think – So, Zach, you and Keith from Nezzy's Prints, obviously, I think it was a huge hit at our table having the 3D printed stuff for the accessories. This was something that was so in the back of my mind when you guys said, oh, can we use part of the table for whatever? I'm like, yeah, no problem, and it ended up being a huge focal point of what was happening. I was amazed. I'm like, oh, you know, like some people will come and talk to me about it. No, like a constant conversation is happening about the 3D printer. I took my new Prusa MK4S with me. It was cool to see people's reactions to it and everything. And it was fun just seeing people walk up. 69er. And just staring at it, watching it print.
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    And then, you know, just the conversations and all the amount of printing stuff. Right now? Is that what you're printing? Well, I mean, the glass corner protectors were a big hit with people. They were loving those. The flipper alignment and level tools. A lot of questions about how that worked, which I thought was awesome. I think the key next year is we need a pinball. We should get a pinball that's going to be used to display it. That's what Alice Cooper would have been perfect for this year if we would have had the broken one. If we would have had the broken one. We could have used Jetsons. We always have to have a white rhino.
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    But the hit of those 3D printed items were Keith's pinball jacks, would you call them? Yeah, playfield jacks. Playfield jacks. Something about a jack and offer. Two pieces that when you lift the playfield, instead of putting it completely up into the service position, you put these jacks in, and it allows it to wear. Slip them in. You just slip it right in there, and it does the job. And I think he only had a set or two printed. And if you guys would have had 10, 12 sets, I mean, these things would have been gone. If you would have educated us first. Very cool. I want a set when they're done. And then I know he took an order from Pins Mechanical for. Oh, and I sold a shooter rod. Yeah, there we go. so I thought that that was something that was well received at the booth and not something that I, you know, was expecting for it to be as much of a conversation starter as it was. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it immensely. And I think next year we should do the exact same, you know, have a full table for that stuff and maybe even have more inventory of stuff ready to go. Cause people look to be wanting to spend some cash. Definitely. Yeah. So makes me want to do a tour. Like I was texting you last night. We're ready for a tour. We need to get back to our roots. So I do want to shout out, speaking of tours and themes and whatever else. We don't care about brand new. Congratulations to Sam Bowman, who just proposed to his then girlfriend and now fiance. They're on vacation this week on the cruise, and they are now engaged. And I told Sam, well, you better have pinball at the reception. Absolutely. We can help make that happen. He's going to commission us to have every version of Star Wars at his reception. And I said outside of the Hankin Which we might have to get from our friend Rob Burke Over at Pastimes I think we could probably Of all people We could make this happen It's doable We need to find the Sega And we'll need to get the Hankin Otherwise So the Sega is the round That's the only one we're missing The Hankin But that one we might have to borrow That one we borrow from Rob I want the F.E.O. Schwartz episode one that there's only like 10 of and they're gold plated can you make that happen? we'll try I mean Zach's got some spray paint I was going to say I got a can of spray paint we can make it happen shout out Sam congratulations when's his wedding? they're not rushing us are they? I didn't ask for a date but I can say that his now fiance is as into pinball as he is Oh my gosh, I knew you. Let me guess.
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    He's Sam. Sam and... Samantha. Sam and Samantha. A Becky? I was going to say Lily. Melissa popped into my mind, but that doesn't seem right.
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    Hey, you know what you should talk about? Lexi? No, not Lexi. Is Phil Streak died? Melissa. Is it? Yes. Oh, what did I just say? I knew it. I knew it was a Melissa. Fuck. I met her for the first time at Expo last year they did the Stern Tour and all of that and she was super hyped about the whole experience We're going to need seats for all of us at your wedding. We're bringing pinballs. There's going to need to be at least four spots for us. We're going to need at least three chickens.
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    Two kegs. Melissa had actually hosted a Bells and Chimes event at their home, and I know that that was a big hit. So congratulations. Just wanted to put that out there. other person in family that we saw at Pinbrood Dave Sousa was there from the Buffalo scene and on the last day his wife and sons joined them as well because they were about to jet set out for a family vacation to San Francisco I saw some of those pictures I was wondering how do I or how do we get invited onto his family vacations here's what a great parent he is his sons were big time into redwood trees So he's like, kids, get on the plane. We're going to the Redwoods. Do you talk about the weather this week or anything?
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    Do we have the Seuss a minute? No, no, Seuss a second this week. But talking about Dave, while he's out there, bless his heart, he's driving in the rental car and he's yelling at his wife or politely requesting, we're driving past a container port. Take some pictures. I need and she's like what do I need to take pictures of these containers and shoots for and he's sending them to me and it's like dude you're on vacation you can you can relax but that's the time he needs to be thinking about us appreciate the dedication buddy and it was awesome seeing uh you and so many of the crew uh from Buffalo at Pin Brew and uh always I'm glad they took that John Wick LE back with them me too I was gonna keep that otherwise I know you were You were already asking me literally the week prior, like, hey, what's the price difference between if we sell a premium? I told myself, I was like, if it goes to Pinbrew and it sells, then I won't keep it. But if not, then I'll keep it. So that's a little container talk for you. Everything from Pinbrew is sold except for – Simpsons, which has now sold. And what about Halloween? Halloween came in on the last day of Pinbrew. I actually had an inquiry about it this morning. There's somebody on the website who's abandoned the cart like six times with it. He emailed it this morning. Okay, he wants it. I know. I offered him a good price on it. Last Action Heroes sold. Simpsons sold. I put legs on it the other day. I want to get it going. Yeah, everything that we had for sale there is now sold, so it was very successful. We had a gentleman drive up from Nashville, Tennessee, made the seven-and-a-half-hour, eight-hour drive to Pinbrew, picked up his Jaws Pro new-in box, which somehow we crammed into the back of his car. Some of the games we loaded. Will it fit? I'm going to be honest. It fit in, but I'm not convinced it's going to ever come out. Yo, Corbin and I loaded one into an Astrovan, and it fit real nice. Oh, I mean, the Astrovan was not talking a whole. I think biggest shout-out, though, of Penru, and I did not catch the guy's name, but it was the guy and his daughter that drove up from Georgia. Oh, yeah. To play Evil Dead. And they're like, I didn't know the rest of these games were going to be here, and they were so... And she had, like, spooky leggings on, spooky hoodies. Oh, yeah. She was decked out. I hope they drive up and get a game from Spooky because, like, I think it would be... It's only, like, a 17, 18 hour drive. Man, if they made the drive from Georgia to us, it's just another, you know, short little six hour, seven, eight hours. Eight hours and ten, nine. And they also did not know that Rob Zombie was back there. Yep. She loved it. And what did she tell her dad? Something about the boobs. It's okay, Dad. I'm a girl. I'm allowed to see that. You should close your eyes.
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    That was awesome. But yeah, they had a heck of a time. And they were there all three days, weren't they? I saw them continually. She was rather spooky. I would love to send her to some spooky shit or something. And they went up to that, what's the murder restaurant and horror themed restaurant? Halloween in Cleveland. I've heard about that. Oh, interesting. It's one of the melts. That's a Bahamas coin. When the melt closed, they opened that. Huh. Yeah, okay. Did you go? You haven't gone. No. The girl at the one teller at the bank was telling me about it. She loved it. She said it was awesome. But then the other teller was like, it sucked. I'm like, okay. My brother-in-law said he got tickets or something to that Edgar Allen Poe thing that they're supposed to be doing. I guess it's going to be like a speakeasy sort of place where you need. In Cleveland? Yeah. It's in Cleveland as well. Interesting. Do you have to know Edgar Allan Poe quotes and stuff to get in? Nevermore. The Ravens. Quack! Nevermore. But I think that takes us right into our Will It Fit segment, and this week's vehicle is brought to you in part by Stantilus Motors, proud makers of Jeep Wranglers. so it a 2009 four-door jeep wrangler will fit a new in box spooky pin confirmed by our friends in benton wisconsin good to know laid down laid down yeah okay i mean if you had no top on i'm sure you could probably stand it up if you're going topless the guy we got the episode one from said he he always thought he had a two-door jeep and he always talked about how a two pinball 2000 fits in my Jeep standing up. Really? Yeah. Huh. Not with legs on, but like, how the fuck would he have done it then? I don't know. I don't know how he did either. He didn't like us after we GC'd it up. After I GC'd his fucking episode one. It turns out people don't like that. It is living. I really don't care. It was a lot of fun. He's like, oh, yeah, I'm counting the money. You guys can play a game if you want. We're like, oh, cool. Cool. And next thing you know, he's like, you guys can stop now. So Kyle had sent a link to the group chat earlier this week, last week, with a link to Battle Stations. So talk about Battle Stations a little bit, Kyle. I don't know too much of it. Didn't you guys play it at Expo? Jeff and I played it. Zach and I played it at Expo two years ago. It was over in the homebrew section. It was imagine you take two headless TNAs, mash them together long ways. So did you read the description? I did. So it's one playfield glass. Correct. So it's one unit. Yeah, a thing like Joust or that Soccer Gatley one. Exactly. I mean, we can make things much more reliable now. Yes, right.
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    It's cool. If they can get that off the ground and sell them for $7,000, I think they'll make some money. I think they'll sell them. I mean, Jeff and I had a lot of fun with it. Oh, I would definitely. $7,000? Yeah. I think we've learned at this point that these sorts of things. I'd say like $7,000 probably. That'd be fun. Yeah. So it's $2.50 is ideal. It's mythpinball.com M-Y-T-H pinball.com So it's Battle Station Head-to-Head Pinball, an intense head-to-head pinball battle station unlike any other. Some of the rules were really cool. It's like, so you're trying to hit the other player's pop-up to destroy him. But then if you sit there and hold the balls I have a lockdown action button and when I press that, it releases your flippers. I don't remember that being at the one on Expo. That must be something new. So right now they're going to do... That's cool. That's real cool. Like, hi, you fuck with me? Boom, you're done. It's not like, hey, hold on, buddy. I'm trying to get a drink or something. It's like in competition. One of those should have went to us. Taking out the shots and then boom. That's cool. That's real cool. Off the rip here for the launch edition, they're going to limit it to 10 units and those units will include custom powder coated legs, Lockdown bars and rails In a space motif Your name or custom logo printed on the side art And front of the game Your name or custom logo Printed on the playfield art That's pretty snazzy That is pretty snazzy Here's the problem though It's $2 more than a Ninja Eclipse First edition at $6,996 Ninja Eclipse was a good deal But it's a four flipper game Six shield targets four ship health two reactor pop bumper ship LCDs I think the non-LE10 edition might be cheaper but it's one of those things will they ever get past the original 10 we should have got one out of the 10 we'll see I don't know that they're sold out is it sold out on the set up? yeah I think it's sold out in the sense of it's not been available yet reach out let's reach out to them Yeah. Corbin's our Pinside guy. Check, do some research on Pinside. Terror, sons of bitches. I read it as, as expensive as Hexa coming. Oh my gosh. This thing's going to be epic. So you finally, finally got it.
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    It's, it's in the works. Fell all the paperwork and shit. You had to like, apply for it like you're adopting a dog. Literally. How much, how much are those tariffs? I haven't even mentioned that yet. I'm guessing 10%. 10. It's going to be. It's going to be like a thousand bucks. Yeah. On top of the plane ride that it's already going to be taking over here. 800 dollars to ship it. $800 from France? That's ridiculously cheap. It gets first class, though. It gets drinks and... Complimentary champagne. I think, though, they did say they would let us port it to us since the game is underage, so they can't drink. Well, they also give it English lessons on the way over. That way, when it gets here... Land the plane on the street out front, too. They helicopter it in. Air deliver that shit to the front yard. so final item that i have before we get into final thoughts unless you guys have other i had some i want to talk about phil streak dying i'm sorry what phil streak oh r.i.p yes please zach please yes so our buddy phil he's been on the podcast before um i said phil street i'm like his road died how is it even possible yeah they put those road homes out yeah How many days was it? 800 and some, right? 888. Okay, so. Stern login days. So our buddy Phil's pinball streak on Insider had died. I'm like, I still didn't know what he said after you said it three times. You were still sitting over there looking so confused, like, what is he talking about? So Phil is drinking a guy. I'm like, what? Phil is an accountant by trade, so whenever tax day is coming up, that is a very, very. You only survived three of them, though, or two of them. Two of them. It's an insanely busy time for him, so. The streak bit the dust. Surprise. Normally he asks people that. He does. He taps in like, hey. I have been his surrogate. Yeah. RIP, Phil's. That has to be a connected streak. I did talk to Gary about it, and Gary did say he's not mad. He's just disappointed. Just disappointed. That's the worst. That's the worst when they're disappointed. Let him down.
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    But my final item that I had was, as a distributor, we get some interesting trade-in offers. oftentimes since pinball's been really big the last four or five years a lot of the games getting traded in are newer stir and spike twos and while we know and love you know the these modern games it's perfect yeah especially jeff's basement especially my basement um it's always interesting when someone offers something off the wall up you know a gottlieb spring break or uh like a spring A Royal Rumble. I'd pay tens of dollars for that. Grand Lizard. That was probably one night when Jeff wasn't there. All of these. Was it Mike Huffs from Pittsburgh? Yeah. Three grand. All of these interesting things. A lot less. So, Corbin, you can talk on this better than I can because you get the emails, but Stern will send Mad Pinball or you, hey, this customer was on our website. They're looking for a new game. Reach out to them and see if you can help them. So Connie in Stowe was one of these, and she was looking for a Guardians of the Galaxy. Oh, she was that lady? I never fully connected it. I did respond to her. Nice. Anyway. And then she called me, and we got the deal done. That's all that matters. She had some interesting games. So, yeah, she reached out through the Stern thing, looking for a Guardians of the Galaxy, then thought maybe X-Men, and then ended up with a Godzilla Premium, which you literally can't go wrong. So she had said Hey I have two pinball machines now One I want to keep and one that I'd like to Potentially trade in towards this Godzilla So the game that she wanted to keep Was an immaculate Star Trek Premium Minty mint Beautiful I had my moment with it I can't believe she let you alone She did She liked to watch I went upstairs Wax on wax on The other game 2012 George Gomez designed The Avengers Possibly one of his best games Not pro Not the Hulk LE Not the blue powder coated full squadron LE The Avengers Premium Edition Word Who knew they made a premium of that The only time I've ever played that game is at pinball olympics hanging from the ceiling there we go there's a premium i don't i don't remember i was hanging from the ceiling so when she was describing when she was describing it to me she just said cubits spins and stuff on that i remember she just said it's an avengers i'm like well the avengers or avengers infinity quest yeah she's like the avengers i'm like cool what does your what does it look like on the back glass like is tony stark in the middle is it just hulk and she's like oh well it's it's iron man or whatever in the middle i'm like oh shit that's that's the premium i'm like cool okay yeah i made her an offer on it and it must have been exactly what she was asking wanting in her mind because she immediately accepted so what do you think the game she bought it new yes so she had bought it brand new in box 2012 in 2013 the 2013 because it was born on day was april 23 right which we missed his birthday but um and it came with she had the shaker she had the shaker out of the rip um so what do you think she paid for that 3,500 4,500 4,500 at most oh so we offer she got her money back out of it yeah for sure that's why she was very happy with the offer a throw was a pro was like three grand yeah knowing that she likely played so we took a bet on which who could guess the play count on it which i said probably what did i say around 100 yeah you said under 100 dude this thing was a time capsule it was She had the original paper folded up In a file folder A little baggy with all of the goodies They sold it to you, Heathen So I guess 100 plays How many plays did you guess? I said like 850 I thought you said like 7 or 800 I said like 850 801 We get it back to the showroom We set it up, go into the audits 801 Price is right Not a mark. Like, if I had walked up to it and you had told me we set this up today, I knew out of the box. A 14-year-old game. I would have believed it. It's fresh. It's fresh as hell. There's not a scratch on anything. Straight blue or red. I think it also had. It's red. Yeah. It also, I didn't even see dimples on the play field. No. I felt like it was. Bro, what are you talking about? It's all dimples on a plate. Old wood. We pulled off the glass, tightened down a couple loose screws. There was one. That Hulk Ram busting up. There's some cool mechs in there That shot where you shot it and it shot over it The jump ramp So once you knock down all the Hulk targets And they lift the bridge So you can battle the Hulk If you then hit the Black Widow ramp It turns into a jump ramp That's crazy Which is so cool There's a hella crazy magnet in front of the Hulk That does some crazy stuff The only detractor to the entire game for me Is Code Depth I could see in a small lineup For right now, though, I'm going to get my fix on it. My throw. Eat that shit every night and go to bed. So good. Don't cry like a bitch. So, so, so, so good. Just enjoy it. Take your win. Feel good. So if you're looking to trade in any awesome games, email jeff at madpinball.com. Or if you have an Avengers Premium that's pretty nice, but not as nice as this, and you want a super nice one, and you want to trade us it plus some cash or something, what do you think? If you love this game. It has to be one of the first premiums. I'm putting it out in the wild. Quote, unquote. I'm putting it out there. This is very early to them doing that trim model. I don't think people understood the premiums back then. I did not even realize it was there. Aerosmith would be 2016, so that's four years after this. I did not realize this was a thing. Because ACDC, they did... I'm probably going to keep this unless somebody gives it a really good deal. If you love this game and you have a routed version and you want to upgrade, let's make a deal. Because I'll feel a little bad putting this out there in everyone's grimy hands. I won't. Well, my first thought was if we do put it out... We'll treat her nice. need to put the lollipop rails on it to protect her a little bit. We'll see. It's a little bit.
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    It's terrible. We can have Adam Potter for something. Yeah, definitely. Alright, final thoughts, Kyle?
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    Sand. I like Don's idea of whenever you play Dune that you need to stand in a kitty litter box of sand on your toes. I literally was listening to that, and he's like, so what I'm going to do is build a two-by-two box and fill it full of sand. He's like, oh, it's going to be a litter box. What did I do? No, I was just asking Corbin if we had any events that we needed to shout out. So Evil Dead at Quarter Up. Yeah. So on Monday, April the 28th at 7 p.m. in the Valley in Akron, we will have an Evil Dead launch party. Two days from now. Yeah, so Evil Dead. We'll see if it's even live. Evil Dead. Oh, it will be. I'll put this up tomorrow. Evil Dead. Yeah, you mean. Heard that before.
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    Yeah, well, that was pinball. And we'll start doing Ninja Eclipse stuff. We'll do some other stuff. Yeah. So Evil Dead will come out of Finney's. It will go to Quarter Up. And then something new and fun and exciting will go into Finney's. So keep your eye on pinball map. Zach, final thoughts? I was just going to say, go play Evil Dead and Ninja Eclipse. They're both a lot of fun. They are a lot of fun. Get out there and play some pinball.
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    It's a lot of fun. play them play better corbin final thoughts go play at finney's go check out lakewood lakewood's opening live now arcade on detroit um go to quarter up go just get out and play go play a soccer game stuff's gonna be continually getting added into everywhere yeah it's an exciting time there's a lot of fun things coming in um i saw that you'd place the foosball up there the duck crane is up there the yeah the spin to win was was dazzling some eyes claw mania ferrari's out man the ferrari is finally out i was glad to see that out did we talk about getting that in there and how i did it on my own and you just watched the truck you did we talked about that already that's my final thought is somehow corbin and i managed to get some immense massive pieces in there without me dying or him dying. And then on Friday, Zach not dying. So a lot of not dying, everyone. So kudos all around to everyone of not dying. But Kyle, if you want to take us out here with the soothing sounds of Christian Bates, the Mad Pinball Jam. Play better.
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    Thank you. The next game is Harry Potter from Jersey Jack.