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Solid State Pinball Supply operators discuss pinball business challenges amid new game releases and competition.
Solid State Pinball Supply sold 25-35 games in first three years, then increased after moving to larger location with arcade space
high confidence · Nick Greenup directly stating business metrics: 'we probably sold, I don't know, at least 25, if not 35, in the first three years'
Jersey Jack Pinball games require more maintenance and care on route compared to Stern games
high confidence · Kerry Wing: 'JJP's historically have been rough on route for me...lot more care needed on route compared to the Stern games'
Deep Root promised five games at 2019 TPF as part of 'five days of Deep Root' but still only showing Raza prototype years later
high confidence · Carrie discussing unfulfilled promises: 'they announced that they were going to do the five days...now like they're still not even really done with the first one'
Avengers Infinity Quest is expected to win Game of the Year at Twippies due to Stern's dominance of that award
medium confidence · Tony's assessment: 'it's going to be game of the year in the Twippies, just like all of Elwynn's games are, because Elwynn owns that award'
Flipper strength issues affected Raza prototype playability at shows, with top competitive player Travis unable to consistently hit left ramp
high confidence · Detailed gameplay issue: 'Travis said he hit that shot 12 times, and he went fully around the ramp zero' on the jump ramp mechanic
Jersey Jack games suffer from mushy flipper feel in low power situations at shows due to default settings
medium confidence · Tony's observation: 'Jersey Jack is notorious for having mushy flippers when they're in a low power situation'
Deep Root's original 'Ferrari quality with Kia pricing' statement has been walked back
medium confidence · Carrie noting statement revision: 'that statement i believe has been walked back some'
Stern Pro machines now cost almost $6,000, creating affordability barrier for casual buyers
“How naive I was. But it turns out you can sell a lot of games.”
Nick Greenup @ ~15:30 — Reflects unexpected success of Solid State Pinball Supply business model selling used machines
“It does kind of lose some of its magic. However, since we're in the midst of a move when Ninja Turtles came out, I did get to feel a little of that joy again.”
Nick Greenup @ ~28:00 — Illustrates how operator responsibilities diminish the excitement of receiving new machines versus home collectors
“Everything about it from the display to the cabinet was all still prototype, and it didn't showcase any of the innovations that the company is planning”
Tony @ ~55:00 — Suggests Deep Root's Raza prototype may not represent final innovations, affecting first impressions
“They think they're second. They've named them as second. And Deep Root's coming in, and they talked a really big game about being disruptive, about producing more games than anyone else in pinball.”
Tony @ ~62:00 — Frames Deep Root's ambitious positioning against established manufacturers and timing challenges
“Travis said he hit that shot 12 times, and he went fully around the ramp zero.”
Tony @ ~48:30 — Highlights mechanical design issues on Raza prototype affecting even elite competitive players
“Every home for a pinball, every pinball for a home”
Nick Greenup @ ~72:00 — Deep Root's original market positioning tagline indicating mass-market affordability goals
“If they do not, if it's only Raza, the reaction to the reveal will be lackluster.”
Tony @ ~52:00 — Assesses Deep Root reveal expectations and community sentiment about showing only one game
“I'm like I don't know about that. He talked about the diagnostics and stuff, and they do have some cool features...you can just go into the menu and it shows you a picture of the play field and points out where the switch is”
business_signal: Solid State Pinball Supply expanded from initial 25-35 machines sold to larger arcade-focused operation after pandemic; licensing requirements for arcade operations described as 'a nightmare'
high · Nick: 'we moved to a bigger location and going all out with an arcade...the licensing is quite a nightmare'
community_signal: Jersey Jack incorporates player-friendly software features: built-in manual display, switch error diagnostics with playfield diagrams, intuitive operator tools
medium · Carrie praising JJP: 'you can go into the menu and it shows you a picture of the play field and points out where the switch is'
competitive_signal: Deep Root's reveal timing problematic: positioned between Avengers (expected Game of Year winner) and JJP's second-place manufacturer status; missed TPF opportunity for broader circuit exposure
medium · Tony: 'Avengers just came out, and it's going to be game of the year...Stern's the one real behemoth...Deep Root had an opportunity...they were going to reveal Raza there [TPF]'
design_philosophy: Raza prototype exhibits mechanical/geometric issues: elite player Travis unable to consistently complete left jump ramp despite 12 attempts; flipper strength and ramp geometry questioned
high · Direct gameplay failure metric: 'Travis said he hit that shot 12 times, and he went fully around the ramp zero'
market_signal: Game remake saturation: Jurassic Park and TMNT Ninja Turtles both recent re-releases; Tony notes 'it's the year of repeats' with multiple franchise revivals
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high confidence · Tony's pricing concern: 'games are now like almost $6,000 for Stern Pros. And I'm telling you, every home can't have a pinball at $6,000'
Carrie @ ~35:00 — Notes Jersey Jack software/UX advantages for operators and service technicians
medium · Discussion of repeated IP: 2012 Avengers remake; Data East Guns N' Roses being remade by JJP; hosts questioning necessity of sequels/remakes
personnel_signal: Zombie Yeti credited as artist for Avengers Infinity Quest; hosts praise art direction as winning creative combination with Keep L1 design
high · Nick: 'that coupled with zombie-yetting art, I think it's a winning combination for me'
market_signal: Stern Pro machines approaching $6,000 price point; hosts express concern about affordability limiting 'every home' adoption goals
high · Tony: 'games are now like almost $6,000 for Stern Pros. And I'm telling you, every home can't have a pinball at $6,000'
announcement: Jersey Jack Pinball officially announcing Guns N' Roses for October reveal following 'worst kept secret' speculation
high · Hosts reference new trailer confirming October reveal; theme confirmed through multiple hints ('chart-topping hit')
product_strategy: Deep Root Pinball's extended delays: promised five games for 2019 TPF announcement, still only showing Raza prototype years later with September 2024 reveal
high · Carrie: 'didn't they say how many years ago was it at TPF they were going to have the five days of Deep Root...now like they're still not even really done with the first one'
product_concern: Jersey Jack and Stern games both require flipper strength adjustments on fresh installs; JJP notorious for mushy flippers in default low-power show conditions
high · Nick: 'I had to do that with Oktoberfest and Turtles...they couldn't make the ramps...so it was like, alright, we'll crank up the flipper strength'; Tony: 'Jersey Jack is notorious for having mushy flippers when they're in a low power situation'
sentiment_shift: Kerry's opinion of Jersey Jack improved after extended home experience with Wonka; initially skeptical, now appreciates game depth and operator-friendly diagnostics features
high · Carrie: 'my opinion of Jersey Jack is a movie [changed]...they actually make great games at home because they're so deep...they do have some cool features'
technology_signal: Deep Root's patent-based playfield lift innovation may be impractical (playfield overhangs, weight/shipping concerns); owner clarified patents don't reflect final design
medium · Discussion of patent designs: 'It looks like the whole machine would tip over...The playfield's like sticking out completely beyond the front of the game...would have to add some bricks for counterbalance'