SDTM Episode 88: Munsters (Pro) Pinball Machine Review

Straight Down the Middle·video·1h 10m·analyzed·Feb 22, 2019

Analysis

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TL;DR

SDTM reviews Stern's Munsters Pro, debuts weighted scoring and certified reviewers.

Summary

Straight Down the Middle Episode 88 reviews Stern Pinball's Munsters Pro machine with newly introduced weighted review scoring system and certified reviewer panel. The hosts announce expansion of SDTM to four members with addition of Carrie Hardy, and debut their system comparing reviewer perspectives from Jason Fowler (Slap Safe Pinball Podcast) and Sean Davis (Kentucky State Champion). Munsters receives strong marks for Christopher Franchi's artwork but mixed feedback on shot satisfaction and code complexity.

Key Claims

Stern's Munsters Pro, Premium, and Limited Edition variants have all sold out quickly
high confidence · Zach states 'the pro dribble both sold out fast the premiums I've sold out on my premiums and they haven't even produced... Ellie sold out in a heartbeat these things are selling really well'
Munsters was designed by John Borg with art by Christopher Franchi and code by Dwight Sullivan
high confidence · Hosts explicitly credit 'designed by John nice job art by Christopher Francis you didn't... code do I Sullivan'
The playfield has fast, smooth ramps that require minimal flipper strength to execute
high confidence · Greg explains 'the ramp itself... it's really steep comes all the way up and it actually levels out really quick... a weak shot will go on... it is a really really fast shot and the ramp is so smooth it takes hardly anything to get up it'
Code and rules are more complex than initial perception suggests, with significant depth comparable to Star Wars
medium confidence · Zach states about the code 'this thing is just as deep as Star Wars but it just doesn't look like it' after initial disappointment turned to engagement with mode strategy
The Herman magnet feature lacks impact and kinetic satisfaction when the ball breaks free
high confidence · Sean Davis comments 'The balls captured by the magnet on the hurry up but breaking it free does not feel great I want some kinetic satisfaction from hitting that thing and it severely misses the mark'

Notable Quotes

“we are introducing two new concepts for straight down the middle of pinball show reviews two new ones the first one being weighted scoring”
Zach Minney@ 6:02 — Major methodological change to SDTM review process, establishing weighted categories with enjoyability, rules/code, and shots/layout each at 20%
“I hated it... I was sick for an entire day being and touch my new pinball machine hurt my feelings I was brokenhearted”
Greg Bone@ 30:34 — Initial negative reaction to Munsters code structure due to points-based progression vs. traditional skill-based advancement, later recontextualized as positive after deeper engagement
“this thing is just as deep as Star Wars but it just doesn't look like it”
Zach Minney@ 32:28 — Key claim about hidden complexity in Munsters ruleset vs. visual presentation
“I give it a freakin a plus... there is one thing that is in agreeance okay and that is the art that's true and it is gorgeous it is fantastic from the cab to the back glass to the playfield”
Greg Bone@ 18:26 — Unanimous consensus among reviewers that Munsters artwork is exceptional across all cabinet variants
“although it is beautiful I do question the premium in black and white make it the Le”
Jason Fowler (via host reading)@ 19:48 — Concern about variant differentiation strategy—questioning why most striking aesthetic (black/white) is Premium rather than Limited Edition
“mr. Davis's that a B - OH would you agree or disagree that B - great”
Zach Minney — Sean Davis gives B- to shots/layout, indicating strong but not exceptional category performance despite fan layout criticism

Entities

Straight Down the MiddleorganizationStern PinballcompanyThe MunstersgameZach MinneypersonGreg BonepersonCarrie HardypersonJohn Borgperson Christopher Franchiperson

Signals

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community_signal: SDTM launching certified reviewer database model to align viewers with specific reviewers whose tastes match their own, creating personalized review aggregation similar to film criticism platforms
high · Hosts announce 'SDTM certified reviewers' system: 'we have brought on board people that we feel now are very knowledgeable... we're creating hopefully Rotten Tomatoes and well reviews' with first two reviewers being Fowler and Davis
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competitive_signal: Variant artwork differentiation questioned—black and white aesthetic positioned as Premium rather than most premium Limited Edition, confusing visual hierarchy and value perception
medium · Jason Fowler comment via host: 'although it is beautiful I do question the premium in black and white make it the Le' with agreement from hosts that this creates aesthetic confusion across tiers
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design_philosophy: Sean Davis and Zach Minney identify Herman magnet feature as lacking kinetic impact and satisfaction when ball breaks free; Dracula target described as difficult to shoot with weak payoff
high · Sean Davis: 'The balls captured by the magnet on the hurry up but breaking it free does not feel great I want some kinetic satisfaction' and 'dragula is kind of a bear to shoot and when you land it it feels weak'
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design_philosophy: John Borg's consistent design signature across multiple games defended as strength rather than derivative approach; hosts argue signature style is intentional and appropriate
medium · Zach defends Borg: 'when you're the best cook in town... do you really want to start making a whole different type of food' in response to board layout comparisons
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Topics

Review methodology innovationprimaryThe Munsters (Pro) review and assessmentprimaryArtwork and cabinet aestheticsprimaryPlayfield layout and shot designprimaryCode complexity and rules depthprimaryChannel expansion and personnelsecondaryJohn Borg design style consistencysecondaryCertified reviewer system launchsecondary

Sentiment

positive(0.78)— Strong positive sentiment overall with critical but balanced assessment. Artwork receives near-universal praise (A+ across reviewers). Shots/layout receives B to B+ grades with some reservation about shot satisfaction. Code/rules initially criticized then reframed as deeply engaging. Minor concerns about Herman magnet impact and variant differentiation strategy do not significantly diminish overall positive reception. Tone is enthusiastic and celebratory of new review system launch.

Transcript

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Carey hearty welcome to the team Carey thank you for the introduction Zachary and Greg I am very excited to be joining these straight down the middle team I look forward to providing content for this channel in the near future for those of you who do not already know who I am and what it is I do let me give you a quick overview slashing montage my name is Carey Hardy and I talk and do everything pinball from restorations to troubleshooting do's and don'ts how to's even product for abuse so if any of that sounds interesting to you then make sure you hit that subscribe button for straight down the middle make sure you ding that Bell assembled that way you can be notified of whenever we upload new content for your viewing pleasure once again a big thanks goes out to Zachary and Greg from straight down the middle and I look forward to bringing content to you all so look at that little montage that Carrie put together and like I said like Carrie is very different from what we do Carrie does things like the you know he's gonna bring us powder coating he's gonna bring us tear downs of games hardtop you install a hardtop here he's done play field swap so we're bored and finding yes and Carrie is very energetic he's very personable he fits history welcome to the team dude you're gonna see his videos pop up on the channel it's just more content for you guys so stay tuned to that awesome also we're gonna do a review this week Greg a little different a little different a little different okay people wanted to know they said okay Zach Heather's own distribution thing how is he gonna do reviews and here's the thing if I review games that I sell uh-huh I'm gonna get [ __ ] for it yes people are gonna say you're biased who they're gonna say this so we got [ __ ] before well we're not doing that not out of the courtesy of you guys we're not gonna do but we're gonna do something even better yeah right when we can't do one thing we do something in spades that's where we're about to do we are introducing two new concepts for straight down the middle of pinball show reviews two new ones the first one being weighted scoring yes now what does that mean great Gina do you know if I know what it means like a like a new pinball machine I don't know how I feel about it but I'm rolling with it I gotta give Zach one the freaking bone here's the premise everybody said we'll hold up you guys have a theme ranked as much as as much as like shots and layout or code that doesn't make any sense my argument though we're not going with your argument cause of removing the show on towards what we're changing here's the deal we've changed that from now on Greg and I have tallied a weighted scoring system that you guys are gonna see us use from now on yes yeah and I think it's very fair I'm gonna read it to you right now for art Greg and I are rating that 10% 10% it doesn't matter more shots and lay out 20% that matter that is very the rules of the code they matter that's a 20 bathroom as well does toys an innovation 10% could matter ever thought music can call outs 5% display in animations 5% right theme 10% that could matter that's why I bought game and the holy Mecca is enjoy ability 20% very so three top categories enjoy ability rules and code and shots and layout is what Greg and I have agreed upon are the most important parts of a pinball machine green so they're 20% so what this isn't gonna matter you guys basically what's gonna happen here is that we're still gonna give you the grades nothing changes it balances the cumulative it balances the cumulative yes because the cumulative can be off a little bit can it you slur in there dick that might have came out a little bit so here's the second thing Greg people are alike okay so there's AG there's Greg who cares about them they're just two people Greg again you know what we want to bring you the reviews in pinball so we have added a special feature straight in the middle of pinball show and that is SDTM certified reviewers yes Wow so what does that mean well do you know that means that we have brought on board people that we feel now are very knowledgeable right pinball in specific games especially newer ones even and we brought them on board to give us their review and their rating to go against me so yeah we're gonna have a database a large database of these certified reviewers and you guys are gonna find which reviewers that you particularly like the best one which ones you don't like yeah because you'll line yourself you know it's like they go what movie - what Seinfeld remember the Seinfeld episode with like Dave's picks in the movie store oh yeah remember that it's sort of like that so that way you you when you you might find yourself aligning yourself with a certain pinball we're gonna mirror reviewer so we are creating hopefully Rotten Tomatoes and well reviews yes so stay tuned for that this week we are going to highlight two of our certified reviewers and that is none other than Jason Fowler whoa from the slap safe pinball podcast one of the best podcasts out there and Sean Davis the Kentucky state champion the headers yes they will be reviewing the Munsters alongside with you and I'm gonna help by reading out some of the comments some of their grades so I'm kind of a proxy if you will for this press up rocks so Greg if you want to get into it we are reviewing stern pinball's The Munsters sound on that released in 2018 I don't know how many units they've made I tell you what the pro dribble both sold out fast the premiums I've sold out on my premiums and they haven't even produced yeah Ellie sold out in a heartbeat these things are selling really well yeah designed by John nice job art by Christopher Francis you didn't so proud of you but are you doing really well code do I Sullivan dang man what about audio I knew that guy's name because I really liked his voice did you do but I can't remember yeah dude I'm so sorry Jerry yeah remember there's the team over Stern pinball created this this is gonna be a lot of fun let's go to Greg giving us an overview of the game and then we'll come back and start raiding this thing here we are with Stern's Munsters Pro I'm going to give you the rundown from left to right as always you have your special wind lit shouting you're out lane then you have your Eddie and Marilyn rollovers and those will help you win you're in your jackpots Marilyn lights over at your right ramp and Eddie lights in your orbits then you have your dragula big mano target right here there's two switches on each ends where you see those rivets and that will spell Dracula on each hit it will spell your d or r your a your guu your hell and your a it is responsible for helping the hata ball during your multi balls by spelling dragula also you get points you get points one k for your D 5k for the R and so on ten K fifteen twenty-five fifty and a hundred you also have the opportunity to have five x multiply running on that dragula for some more points and you have your super jackpot when you hit it in here it'll fall backwards and go into this dragula kickback is like the dragula roadster and you can collect that jackpot or you can cash that jackpot out or you can save that jackpot sorry about hitting yours that button and that will exit up hop over and go into your orbit in circular circle around and come out to your right boom then you have your oh there we go get surprised by a spot there so we can go in the spot here so instead of this ramp so you've got this ramp here and that's where your spot shot is and spot pops up out of that ramp really solid shot we're get a really good job on this design there's no bounce to it there's no anything when you hit it up that ramp and even we hit spot spot is very solid it's good clean solid hit on him it doesn't feel loose you know mess your ball up or anything but really cool shot therefore that that spot shot the ramp itself you can't really see it here but it's really steep comes all the way up and it actually levels out really quick and takes a dip as soon as it gets behind that backboard and that allows for just you know a weak shot will go on and and follow around behind the backboard comes out of the sewer tunnel and winds its way down again a very quick ramp you know that seems widely seems long does a complete play field cross but again it is a really really fast shot and the ramp is so smooth it takes hardly anything to get up it and it will continue around its path to the right of that we have the hard to miss gigantic Herman bash toy and Herman is accompanied by a magnet down here and he is a hurry up so when you hit a Herman he'll let a hurry up and he hit it again it'll collect on to that magnet then you'll get another ball and if you can knock that ball off you'll have a three ball multiball if you do not knock that ball off then you'll only have a two ball multiball so that ball will fall and you'll get another ball ejected out pretty cool toy really solid too you know that magnet strong having much problem with that it is kind of a you know a little bit of a weak shot when you knock it off of there but still really fun and really cool and to the right of that is one of your most it is in his pride one of your most important shots I can't get to it oh it's your kitty shot back there there she is and that is just a stand up tart kind of a tough tight area there especially for a little staying at target that's you know wedged in there and that is responsible for all your plate filled multipliers so again when she's lit you'll get your 2x then you go to your 3x then get a combination I believe I guess you'd go to four or five and then upwards of six I think six is where you're max that out with that kitty shot to the right of that is a little opening you'll see there and that will lead into your pops and that seems like a tight shot that you're not going to get into very often but I'll tell you what man it bounces in there and you can get into the pops it's not a hard a hard place to hit so really cool design there into those pops then you obviously have your your to roll overs up top to help maximize for your pop Awards again neat configuration up there I really like it's tight but very doable you're in there a lot to the right of that you have your grandpa's shot and that is a scoop scoop shot for your extra bowl you've got there's a lot going on in there you've got your extra bullet you can pick up you have your mystery in there you have added time during modes and it is also is responsible for starting your monster madness and you will start grandpa by hitting these grandpa Munster vampire for stand up targets it's also what helps advance you during your jackpots when you are in the grandpa mode to the right of that you have your Marilyn rant and this is cool this is really cool so you travel up up up up Marilyn up up Marilyn and you go inverted into this ramp you go around your wire form again another very fast ramp that returns to your right it seems like it would be slow it seems like this would be a nun makeable shot but it does not take very much to invert that ball and drop it into that wire form so you don't you know it's not one of those all my gosh I have to have the most powerful flippers I've got to really hit that thing solid a good a good makeable fast shot just like that other ramp it's fantastic love it and again to the right of that you have your other orbit lightning fast orbits I can't say it again how fast these orbits are there is there's nothing back there to stop those orbits there's no gates there's no anything to stop that so once you get those those rolling there's not much other than the spinner over here to really get that ball hung up on super fast now to the right of that orbit we have our lily shot and Lily is a mode but she is worth just increased points so as you spell Lily out it will start your your lily mode and then every time that you hit that Lily giant mano target then it will add to your jackpots in that lily mode and again she's responsible for us which hits account for more points and actually it's satisfying she's good you know I know the lack of drop targets but it's still pretty cool then over here you have your other Eddy rollover and your other special Wynn lid so there you have it guys that's your new monsters Perot pinball machine Buster and pinball super awesome all right Bonnie let's talk monsters night first off nice job with the overview there thank you thank you didn't go too deep let's go this pin though that your daughter games let's go with art now I've said before so he's I'm glad we're kicking it off I've said before maybe the most beautiful pinball machine of all time like this thing is a looker don't worry what do you think I I think it's phenomenal I give it a freakin a plus you did and I think I'll tell you what no matter what [ __ ] you read on pin side or anywhere else there is one thing that is in agreeance okay and that is the art that's true and it is gorgeous it is fantastic from the cab to the back glass to the playfield it is doing the pro yeah it is the trifecta the trifecta and honestly I'm sorry why are you sorry Chris sorry man I think Chris I think the pro I think the casket thing is cool with Ellie but man this pro is beautiful and you got the black and white which people love it's it's not my taste I think that the pro I think it's one of the best-looking pros that you could ever have maybe one of the best looking premiums maybe one of the best looking Ellie's a very true we're doing the pro right now so you're an A+ now I will say that our constituents mr. Fowler and mr. Davis are in agreement with you they're both as solid as a running the board with A's on the Munsters artwork there is no denying now what what mr. Davis did say about the artwork he said I enjoy the art on this game but it's difficult to love it when you know what's coming up with that beautiful black and white so see he likes balls he said the colors are all crisp they're vibrant I like the way the light show dances around the play field during that game play yes that's a good is very nice and mr. Fowler said I love the overall art package and details including the furnace and the nods to the show I do like the furnace and the drain yes as really there's really nice he said although it is beautiful I do question the premium in black and white make it the Le so he's more he's morally I kind of agree that too I do think that it's an odd thing I I think that your very specific one off probably should have been it makes it less what makes a premium special the Le special makes the pro special they're all different it does it is a very difference I still would have liked to seen the black and white be in Le I I would have I don't know why I think because it's so starkly different it's so drastically more about them yeah yeah that you have that but I mean I don't know hot yeah I agree with both of those guys I think the thing is is Franchi added things nuances to it that like the furnace and different things the night in making a single daddy around the orbits doing different things activities yes a little nods in there to the show yeah it's such a a waster eggs I'm not gonna say a world under glass per se the way that we perceive it but feels like it's inside of house to me it feels like it's inside like Franchi created that world - toys and everything else Chris scares me every time Chris created that on that play field and in the plastics and everything else like he did he did sounds like solid composition yes perfect I think you said the colors again I'm family portrait yes like I will I will Ho Chi on the side the cult de Franchi pop trademark I feel that Stern fan has started doing something and I could be completely wrong I don't know if they went with a different printing process or what on their cabs but since Iron Maiden Iron Maiden was the most gorgeous color rich cabinet that I've ever seen maybe we're just seeing different artists I we're seeing zombie Eddie and Frankie I don't know man dude it's killer like it is the that it is a beautiful cabinet and like I said part of the orders on the pro-ice terrific I still like the Knights I still like the the nines down there and the whole bottom mines the backboard I'm telling you that isn't that is a piece that that class is beautiful no the backboard now all of the men what is Pete yes notice that McCain yes but well boy that that's gorgeous back boards are Barry McLean their very lives are just black yeah it's very fitting it fits the ramp sighs there's Bannister the in and out it gives purpose to the ramps it's not just ramps going through that backboard like French like you said the sewer pipe it made it like that it was a person he said it before he says each project he wants to do better I think that probably Jeremy Packer (Zombie Yeti) aka zombie Eddie would agree with that sentiment I think rap freer said on a recent interview that's his goal - can you get better than this I don't I don't think so like I said like Beatles and Beatles was damn good like yeah so so you know Frankie didn't really have to mess with the playfield on Batman so that that's what it is but then he went to guardians guardians as beautiful guardians as cool man but the Beatles was gorgeous Beatles fit he did phenomenal this this is right there was Beatles it is so fantastic and I think Chris is on Chris on his niche like I said like make Chris had done pinball before so I think that that finding your balance and where you need to go with a play field in the full package it it takes a little bit of time to develop that and I think he did well he's doing it not only good and year for year three or whatever yeah he's doing it like he's been doing it forever Oh completely can't wait to see what's coming up and every speaking of what's coming up next let's talk about shots and lay out does this thing a clunk monster no no it sure the hell I don't know it surely isn't so I my room design board designed it I like board games I love for do you really like board games and I gave I do I've heard my do like board up I gave this thing a - we're different here okay yeah and I'm a little higher than our reviewers that's a really good score and I'll tell you why I'm in a name - it might be an odd thing because there's a lot of people that are hard for me not to give they're bitching and complaining out of a hard for you not to say anything um it is that basic fan layout and that's fine and I don't want to have that stupid discussion again when the full fan layout no not flippers gonna be no and I'm not gonna get into this and there's been some other games that have been put up next to it that are very similar okay but this game does not shoot like those games this game shoots so fluid so smooth the ramps are so smooth they're so fast there so wick both ramps are quick for long windy ramps like John did a phenomenal job about getting that that ball back to then a ball hugs the wires oh it is fantastic the orbits we were talking today there's no gate there's nothing there's no gates back here there's nothing to hang it up up know that getting that ball mean you hit that orbit on the fly and you hit it try hitting it twice in her own see what oh it is nasty it is so nasty you know what it does is is John has a different style than Richie but this has the flow of a Steve Ritchie pin absolutely very much so you come back to back ramp you can orbit ramp orbit orbit I've got like a what I have like a 12 a 14 way combo you or someone this this is this is like oh like a regular body Demoman okay with flow because you can ramp ramp and it doesn't seem like a lot but do dare it with Lord we get a we get a Bosch toy which we'll talk about here in a little bit but that's you'll see that in board layout you'll see it - usually a typical - ramp yeah nice orbit on a board yeah you get your typical board scoop yeah but what you get different about borg here is welcome back kickback you get the dracula kickback that goes into the orbit i love that feature that's probably my favorite part of the layout because it's a little different everybody said you know a lot of people are like is this a cut and paste from a board I don't think so at all I think it's placed completely different than all your other boards that you see now he does have a style you have a style yeah and it is very true to his style which guess what when you're the best cook in town yeah do you really want to start making a whole different type of food no need shut your pinion I'm sorry I'll refer to mr. Fowler mr. Fowler's a tabby yes solid great yes mr. Davis's that a B - wait a minute a B - OH would you agree or disagree that B - great you know what does Sean have anything to say about that let me hear what Sean has to say about this man I shall Davis uh champion shot state champ Jean is I'll be lair he's a beast yeah he said the ramps on this thing are fantastic okay that goes estimate I love seeing the ball backflip on the right ramp and the flow behind the back wall from the left Shaw satisfaction diminishes though outside of these two ramps dragula is kind of a bear to shoot and when you land it it feels weak there's a trend of disappointing shots on this game the worst of which is Herman the balls captured by the magnet on the hurry up but breaking it free does not feel great I want some kinetic satisfaction from hitting that thing and it severely misses the mark hmm you know what dragula I do not think is that terrible to hit but I can kind of agree what did I say when we were playing earlier then it was like why do people think it's hard to hit you hit it - yeah I mean I I don't have too much of a problem hitting what's your flipper uh I do think that it's a little like I don't know how much I don't know how much I like it being there like it's there like I like a kickback and it's another feature and everything and I'm mixed on it Herrmann does like when you hit that I would like a little bit more impact I'd like a little bit more of that wallop but I don't know if the magnet because it's there it slows it down but it is very much just that it's a and then they're up there for a minute and they flow down so I can understand I could agree with that it doesn't bother me like it does Shawn but I can understand that do you think it's like a magnet strength kind of thing I I think that it could be but I think if you got well Walker I mean think about well Walker sitting there you gotta kind of yeah it's not like what it is it's a very it's a very fluid very soft transition and then both of them kind of come down together it's it's not really impactful so I could I can understand his sentiment behind that what other game does that where it holds the ball with a magnet and you got to free it up uh-huh you've got your fighter man Star Trek Star Trek okay yeah up in the shuttle so I I can kind of read the best part - man come on well Shawn the best part is the ramps as that's by far like you cannot deny orbit don't go any fast and it's fun it is satisfying it's fun because it is so fast yeah to finish out shots and lay out Jason Fowler says great ramps yeah good flow especially on the pro yeah he finds it slightly derivative so he's saying you know the board kind of thing I feel like it's a lot like yeah some of the other ports so overall he was at a beat so so far we're it's a good pan yes good pin moving on to rules and code so rules encode this was Dwight Sullivan I feel like this is very different than we're accustomed to from Dwight Sullivan in the last couple titles he's had but then you disagreed with me you said but no there's a lot to it it just looks different yes so tell us a little bit about the code on this thing okay so I'm gonna give you a full rundown you already did in the overview brothers from the day that I got this game oh my gosh yeah Oh way back when yeah two weeks ago so I got this game and I hated it oh I hated it remember you ever hating it yes I hated it don't get don't sugarcoat this I don't remember that I hated it so but this is the thing so I need to go back a little further say what did you we're going back a little further so I read I read people's comments so we you know all of our overseas brothers got their pens first and I read a lot of the comics and it was the whole hey we got the monster madness in no time monster madness and I thought okay you know what it's this is a points-based game I'm gonna take the white on his word you know what it's it's so that everybody can kind of experience the wizard mode it's not a thing like Balinor it's not approachable kind of yes so back to the bays of belly Williams yes yes and so I thought you know okay I can I can wrap my mind around this it's a points game I can do this I can see I can do this yes and so but I got it and I played it and I played like two games yeah got the monster madness yeah and I was like okay I can take that I was sick for an entire day being and touch my new pinball machine hurt my feelings I was brokenhearted day number three I got to put a few more games on there but game five or six no I got the monster madness level two okay I was heartbroken because I was like getting wizard most heartbreaking it was heartbreaking yes because it was too easy now flipping I didn't know the game I didn't understand that so hey I wear my mind needed to be but I I it was so you ate the whole pizza you just didn't taste it yeah shovel today yes 100% I usually equate things to food I do food dirty things oh no but no it's nice that you cleaned it up for thank you thank you for eating pizza cuz I gave you a really I gave you a really bad it uh we're eating Pete's yeah so definitely Pizza you don't even talk about the toppings yeah I mean it's all pie pizza pie I'm just saying um so oh you ate it quick uh-huh yes and I lay out threw myself off that sucks threesome or cab that sucks throw streaking cab and so I remember you call me I'm like done yeah what and so like even though I knew that I should wrap my head around it I was like I just can't do this but then comes mmm the change the epiphany then I start to focus on my zap button I start to focus on doing good in my modes I want to do my jackpots I want to get my Jack the details yes the details I want to focus on these modes like I want to I want to explore these modes I want to progress through my jackpots okay then I start to have fun I enjoy remember than phone calls yes I call Jessa do you you called me after your bedtime a couple nights not like yeah this is like one of the most engaging code sets there is out there it is there's so many details like there's so much strategy this thing you told me I quote this thing is just as deep as Star Wars but it just doesn't look like it yes yes because of the way that the okay so let's say you go into Hermann now I don't think a lot of people lose no brush over there only a lot of people have heard that no no and this isn't the end of the story but but this is this part of the story okay so say something like like yes it's gonna be long but listen I've been waiting on this I just spilled my guts on this game okay so you take Herman you've got all your flashing more all your flashing jackpot you knock the jackpot out on your right ramp we get Herman a few more times it'll turn blue and now that ramp will be blue well you're up yes for a jackpot for your next level Jacqueline and I may be I may be completely freaking off into all this um and but you still got your white shot so now when I clear those white shouts out and I hit her and then those will be blue well if I hit Herman a few more times and I've addict ated a few of those blue shots I hit him a few more times he'll turn red Oh in some games yes it's good now I met my next level same thing with grandpa so I knock knock I shot out now I gotta hit one of the stand-ups that I've used to like grandpa to be able to reactivate that shot oh so it's cool it's a 90 set rule it's pretty cool pretty deep there yes and then you've got your jackpots you're wanting to stay your jackpots so enough stacking modes we're stuck in jackpot we're stacking jackpots so now our jackpots are being built over there at dragula okay so I was like okay you know what I'm down with this then once I really started getting into my jackpot I was like dude this is like this is like BSB or something like instead of or Godzilla like it hold me it's very much yeah like that instead of stacking your multi balls yeah you're wanting to stack your nationalizing those jackpot exactly so you really leveled yeah exactly so you got to close those damn things out ain't gonna be tricky cuz you're gonna collect them too that's know that that well no that's your zap-zap that's a whole to me is like it's a whole separate jackpot it's like a separate mode it's like an additional mode Ouma a mode within a mode because that no deception yeah you'll collect your jackpots okay let's say get to a certain level your zaps will light on the play field and you can collect your zapped jackpots you add to that which is part of it that we collect yours FJ well then you're just [ __ ] out of luck oh yeah you got it you guys part of your stack so I'm like this is fun oh my god but yeah this has some complexity in depth how do you connect can you collect the zap jackpots like what's the cancelling there's a cancel that's your cancer because you're not cashing out dragula reward yes you're cancelling those jet about your seem like that's your stacking is you can you can cash it any risk the fact that you might not stack them all why not collect anything so once I got to them and when I said oh my god like this is a subtle genius to what he's ever done there no this is neat this is this is neat Marco specialties same-day shipping accessible website exceptional customer service and with over 50,000 different pinball parts in stock Marko specialties is a must for every pinball enthused an operator reach your pinball machine right by visiting Marco speck calm now Chrome it brass at black nickel at King decrement powder-coated the possibilities are endless at pinball play to calm your pinball machine deserves the best at comet pinball you'll find the best variety of LED products with the best quality LEDs and most importantly at the best price your collection is begging for an upgrade order yours now at comet pinball comm and so this is where it that it kind of it kind of goes downhill for me cuz and this is the problem that I have with it so you struggle you fight you are you're driving your way through these modes it's brutal it is it is a fight and you're progressing through your modes you're doing good in your jackpots you're collecting your jackpots scenario number one you don't collect all your jackpots you've played for 15-20 minutes you don't collect all your dragon watts and you need to cash them out because you're on ball three shit's getting serious than that you don't get that like that big bonus you don't get that good okay you don't feel like it's big enough yeah I don't feel like I'm speaking up because if you haven't collected them all I don't think and again again this is speculation from gameplay my loves reviews inspected well because I would have to pull the glass off and miss your experienced shots yeah because it's a large again it's an oddly kind of complex yeah game like it's weird it seems so shallow but it's not shallow it's it's kind of complex it does a lot of people don't understand it and I think that's where some of the the negativity we're home owning is fun though yes yes completely and so if you don't collect all those then you have a very miniscule cash out of that jack okay also it's very important that you've got your multipliers running now this is what I'm that I don't know that I have to figure out and I wanted to figure out before this review I I think that you need Kitty and you need your play field multipliers running when it is yes when you can't cuz you're multipliers yeah you need her at 6x you need your multipliers at 6x but I don't know I think that it's when you cash mmm your jackpot out I don't know if your multipliers matter then or if you need your six as you need your multipliers for all of your does that make sense no but I just love that these people don't they usually hear me rant like this and get so into a game this is your first new inbox like you were able to sink your teeth into this well you know but I'll tell you why I was because I'm confused that's cool I'm confused like I I don't know whether to like it or hate it like I don't know where I feel I'm cuttin x' all this talk about multipliers oh but I'm not done you can go okay one more thing one more thing so then this is my other downfall of enlarging ray is again no I wish favorite modes but I did like I don't like oh yeah man you're so hot and cold with this I'm telling you like every day is a new day Lisbon every day is a new day okay but so you go into monster madness you can annihilate monster madness if you shoot it good and that's where I mean you can literally gain 150 200 300 million off of monster badness but you've done it do like when wizard modes pay you off I do but the thing is is you dredge through and you work so hard through all the modes with no there's no satisfaction that score is crazy interesting and but then there's still no real satisfaction because you just went into the wizard mode like my main hang-up is there needs to be some points and some relevancy for satisfaction because you're not moment yes you're not cashing in your jackpot you're cancelling nobody no holding them we know the Dwight's he's a moment maker yes yes oh my got star wars we're know man we're not at one point oh what are we at point nine point nine one okay yes so that's what I'm hoping like I'm not mad at it I'm not obviously not your to be yeah I'm not not giving up on it yeah well I gave it a beat because it's kind of cool rule set it's it he calls me he calls me I he calls me in these like I I don't think this is gonna last like I don't I don't know someone's not clicking I swear to you guys the next day he calls and was like Zach there is something really special about this the depth that this offers I've not seen it before in this type of pen I'm used to mode so this is really given a lot more depth it's like an old-school game but with new contemporary strategy very much and then he calls me the next days like I don't know man I feel like I'm I'm working to get this score and then the name calls me the next day no it's never leaving this thing is just way too greater she's too good it's fun I can't wait to try to get to the second mustard so you've been very yeah but I like opt answering the phone I like mean [ __ ] like I like Ghostbusters like I feel like sick Stockholm Syndrome like I'm like I'm being abused by my captor it's funny I say that because when it comes to rules in code mister Jason Fowler was actually higher than you you're high enough on being Wow b-plus on code he says that it's very approachable it is well now wait a minute you just said it was it's it can be both yes because it could be approachable for people who don't said it's approachable it's clear and you have very obtainable objectives he said it could be slightly thin for more hardcore players but is that true maybe it's backwards I think it's backwards I I'm sorry to go against Jason I think again he's a genie it's one of these weird yeah it's all these weirdest things were on the on the surface you're like oh I hit the flashing jaw yeah now that won't turn blue I hit that one it's got to mean more like like it seems surface level it seems super simple but like I said the complexity of maybe real energy we're at foundation maybe I mean if we're if we're that back and forth oh no I don't know interestingly enough state champion Shawn Davies I don't say that now every state champion Shawn Davis who you would think competitive player this feels like a competitive type pain he was the lowest out of anybody he was mean c- some was mean Wow see much swelled as high standards and he's a competitive player so you gotta take ya think I thought this would be a competitive players pin here's what Shaun says he said stacking jackpot seems like it could be fun and worthwhile activity until you cash in a stack of eight and get a low scoring 30 to 40 million jackpot you've been building your entire game around the second strategy I've been employing is working towards monster madness which currently has a code bug that allows multipliers to get out of control during a hurry up kind of what you were talking yeah and then he goes on to say spots my favorite mode because of the second tier where the game asks you to hit a shot at the left orbit or right orbit to bring spot out from under the ramp yeah so much fun to combo into the bash toy but no matter how far you progress you never see any real movement on the scoreboard yeah so it sounds like he's raving it but just a couple more little things scoring about well but do you see how I fall in there yeah it's between both of those yes exactly like like oh yeah yeah I echo the sentiments of both of those anonymous wolf but it can be frustrating and like I said when there's not that payoff what can you change in a pinball machine code so that's why I'm not mad I'm not moving on to toys in innovation ok toys in that while we start out with the boys here ok alright Jason Fowler for toys and innovation oh he pulled all Sean Davis here see - Fowler you're on this one I don't know email is saying messages saying told I can disagree with Zach like no other these two fellas here I'll tell you what man I feel both of them in there everything is so opposite I feel like let's see where he's coming this is ridiculous see - toys an innovation this thing's pretty loaded for a stern pro he said unique ramps are outstanding ok he's making my point but it's lacking a WoW toy or feature at least it is on the pro ok all right you don't mean uh you can counterpoint it what about the dragula kickback that I've seen before it is not social what about the wire forms that come in wave again what am i a magnet that's what about a bash toy that's three dimensional moves up around nope none of this counts his toys he counts as two but it's not it's I agree with Jason in that aspect that the ramps the ramps themselves are the spinner on a pro o date listen I'm not knocking stirring it all for adding everything they did very appreciative but what I'm saying though is you don't have you don't have an abundance of toys or innovation in this pen you've got your Bosch toy and you've got a kickback it's in granular what about they bought a dragon that pops up out of the play for you know what are the ramp it's it's pretty animal perfected it's it it only this they actually did perfect it I wish they had done the bicycle girl turn tweaked it and things got a medieval man is kickback we got a spot that comes out of the staircase we've got a three-dimensional Herman we've got a magnet we got a spinner on a pro really guys I mean what else do you want i I don't think that it's anything really innovative I don't think it's an abundancy of toys I think the ramps are the toys in this which I'm fine spoiler alert this is uh I'm fine with that pretty low on your be - yeah your be - and that constitutes 10% of your great yeah okay now Sean Davis oh he was on the other end he was the highest of the reviewers had to be plus he said actually I love spot and I love Herrmann on this game they are good-looking toys and they really add to the art package I'm not sure anything is innovating about the machine I've shot him an evil man his catapult I've bashed a bicycle girl in walking dead before Herman's one of the weakest multiball magnet shots I've seen them so he loves the sculpts of this game yeah he loves hitting seeing the Herman he loves - - yeah so he's high on this B+ mm-hmm now that only cost twos 5% we'll get into the weighted grades of these again like I don't disagree with either one of those guys I I can see both of them something over in the sea - oh I mean I like that if I can't grade I just make fun of the people that do come on he's still gonna talk he's gotta talk to people he's got to talk yeah I can't thank you yeah I mean I understand from both up anything else to add on toys and innovation here no again think the ramps are the toys - cool dude what about innovation why's the lighting on this pros a little different so if you want to go now I will tell you maybe probe and that's not a category renovation but not it is innovation so I will okay I will give you that freaking lighting on this is some of the best lighting I've ever seen because the lighting does spark some moments like and I'm not talking about just for Herman where it turns green that happens during the the one mode they're similar in reality the electricity like this is fantastic like everything has a moment and in the light show it's not just something like watts yes yes your multiball everything is feeding at that color nice and Sean Davis even alluded that he threw it in the art he said the light show the dances around is just for now it is it's beyond one of the best light show it might be the best light show of any pro you might be wrong can you give another problem and honestly one of the top light shows of any pin because it stands out that's what I look at in a light show does it stand out does it mean oh I'll give a nod to the recent code update on Deadpool Pro I've heard it there's a really good job I've heard that was good they've done really good job but thank you stir them for stepping that light show up because I think it matters more than what role you guys I agree let's move on to I would save my favorite category but or shots let I can't pick my favorite music and call-outs Greg yeah I'm gonna be blessed oh you're out of your freaking mind no I'd like more call this I'd like something really powerful and distinct night it's not that kind of pin I mean you hear the theme song start to play well I think the music's great and that doesn't get old nay people Nicole at all it doesn't get old to me I want more call outs okay I want more okay that's my complaint that's why I went solos I want more call us at stand-up and I want to be told what to do like for dead million jackpot okay you know three jackpot stacked like we gonna write a three jackpot stack you've got four million in your jackpot do you wanna hit it like that you wanna hit it like I want some more of that that's what this pennies on this pen interacting me I mean it doesn't interact with me you're gonna be plus the smart guys Fowler he's an a Sean Davis he said poopoo you're a I'll raise you a plus say plus music and call us and I've got to agree with him I have a spot agrees with doesn't say Sean Davis said regarding the music oh let's guess what he put on our category to read out nothing a plus dropped the mic nothing else needs to be said when it comes to Jason Fowler's musing koloff's he said seemingly unlimited assets that are excellent the laugh track is unique it sounds great and it fits the show laugh track doesn't bother me on the music didn't get repetitive I'm just gonna be the judge and all these refused I'm not mad at Lord round tomorrow board round music can call outs I just - all that's mine I wasn't I was like I said yeah that's it ok display in animation I'm gonna be ok I'm so surprised I love students font okay so now font matters to you I used to give me a hard time what matters fartin sake a font font matters on this font was good I enjoy good it's [ __ ] good good alright so much so that displaying animations these two guys were higher again Eddie Eddie Eddie Eddie animations not that great regular animation is not that great it's like the most the dolmage like the doll obey it on the table it's not that good it needs to be a little more you know it is awesome all the freaking mute movie clips yeah all the movie clips are awesome but what I'm saying though is that I want it to be a little more realistic okay you francie that that pin a little more let him get that detail let him I say let him capture the essence of the show a little more in those and let that happen so that it's a little more seamless between stern stuff and the clips okay that's all I'm asking for so the artist help more with the animation yes Fowler and Davis both they love it I mean Fowler's in a I mean Joan Davis a - no there's nothing be manna displayed an animation Sean Davis said the use of scenes for the show is fantastic Davis he said that my main complaint if there is one there's some frustrating long wait times for the tilt animation the dragula the the replay yeah he said the replay is just way too long to speed things up a little bit but he's still in a - oh he loves it Fowler went on to say regarding displaying animations he said again seemingly unlimited assets and how an asset based theme should be done that's high praise how an asset based machine should be done and echoing Fowler's a statement about the longness of that it does that with an extra ball - Sean Davidson saying it takes too long shot because I'm ready to plunge for my extra ball and it blacks out on me and it's showing the animation and everything's flashing and strobing and it's like I can't lunge I got to stay in there and I want to plunge okay play my ball I like that I was gonna bring up that on animation though I like little extra ball sequence oh the extra ball extra but I'm talking about when you get the replay for the extra ball okay like when you actually are ready to plunge that's when you gain your extra hole like that no that's awesome dude that is a may like the sounds are different all that is amazing he also said Fowler also said additional creative integration of in-house design clips and he said even the font selection fits the theme well so okay your own point say okay people people like the font we're fought an awesome font is the thing so splenius displaying animation wines that you really really enjoy um kind of going back to lighting and stuff midnight madness on this is insane you - you called me that night Edmond yeah anyway at first I thought my machine broke I don't know I did it so spoiler spoiler alert Paul's to go over there's a good our microphone Phil um so Oh [ __ ] biscuit there we go um so yeah I'm sitting there playing and I didn't know what my clock was said that not updated my code and it was like you know I 2:30 in the evening or three o'clock or something all sudden my game went dead dude I thought I had that that reset problem oh my god dude and I was in the combos when I hit like that 13 14 I was like oh yeah and then all the sudden I start going man I was like so what what is this damn thing do it and then it came up on the screen a seance hello the entire family's in it really I mean you go into this epic multiball the music's a little different than yes oh nice life Dwight that's them that's the moment that's the moment man they put that in there I don't care who's barking up your ass yeah put those moments in there so that's cool it's awesome it's amazing the seance is cool cuz it's so somber it's like Herman sitting at the head of a stable yes yeah Herman said the head of the tables like I brought you all here it's very somber going into this chaotic multiple stellar like whenever companies have full assets yes it really makes it cool freakin a plus a plus plus no less on that midnight Wow sick insane dude that's displaying animation as we're moving on to theme now this theme is predates us right yeah I don't think it's a shocker here we were not born large our parents maybe were in their youth yeah when the Munsters hit the television says mmm-hmm okay they were black and white yeah and then came along Batman 66 and you know you had your Addams Family around the same time how do you feel about the Munsters theme I've always loved it just because of the type of theme it is more so than the actual acid I agree I agree I feel the same way I gave it a be okay son that like I like the horror aspect it was comedy you know what there's like a lot of PSAs in there there was a lot of good life well I liked a lot of people like I liked the comedy of Adam's family better isla Whittier and [ __ ] with that but one of my favorite shows ever confessions time full house yeah right full house is about as hokey corny as you come but I like Momo endearing yeah so endearing you can relate to that and that's the way the Munsters were for the sixties I did have a lot of life moments and I had a lot of good good things that hey you should live your life be a little nicer people do there are certain things that no matter how different your family is that our universe yeah good families do the other thing and I think that that's what a lot of people don't know about that show and Olson yeah it is I mean this is really good it's really good it is it's the family dynamic it's the differences among us all it's fitting in it's it's again it's how you raise your fame and what you do with your family there's a lot of underlining things in that that show besides Obama does that mean it's not too soft though for the hardcore pinball crowd no no cuz nothing that really resonates like it's just their zone yeah it's all good man like I like it it's just again it was it predated us know we know that the theme of like horror and campy you know resonates with loved peoplicious yeah a lot of people like that in pinball and that's why I was excited really you get all kinds of stuff yeah you were to be yeah theme-wise Fowler Fowler we get a lot of differing differing opinions here Fowler's are the see what mr. Fowler nah say you don't ask these myself he says his family friendly it is somewhat dated yeah and he said he wonders if the scope is not a bit too limited for the scope and even the demographic I think whenever you make it can't before it actually expands yeah well it is so gorgeous I think that if it was if it was a you know a run of the mill pin artistic wise and layout wise I think you would have found that but I think you killing because it's so beautiful and greater stein is more visually appealing to look at than beaver cleavers and it's the same thing so yes it's instead of an old man you want to Wallens pinball it's actually grandpa has Dracula he's a coffin exactly so the little boy that goes so I think that that can transcend more than most other shows of that ouka era yeah and even you know Sean Davis did said Sean Davis some days I love this he said state champion Sean Davis said so I love it a plus I love a hold of Sean's of young guys like our he might be younger than me now what are you being younger than you I'm younger than you he might be your age the other birthday not too long birthday dude well thank you sir um it would be nice if I had a present for you yeah my wife take me actually no no I bitched and complained and then I came home from class and she had some I had a something I created no no that's all I wanted I said I wanna address it part birthday do you think I got a birthday you know dress Bert birthday I got a ice cream cake didn't have my name on it just said happy birthday does she not just point down at the Munsters machine says shut up else is here I know it's a good point though Star Wars monsters wait a minute your whole line up right here Stern I don't know anymore well okay so he said a plus on theme a plus you know why he said he wasn't a huge monsters fan the theme doesn't do a whole lot for me all right Shawn then what the hell are you talking about that from what I know the show though I really appreciate what it is and what's included in there I think it's like what I was saying like it's the whole snow so that should mad respect yeah saying no the posters always agree with you oh I've got it all right select that that was think I like that Sean Davis job Sean Johnny D twisting our brains up a little bit Fowler's like sprayed let's see where they all end up though let's talk about enjoyability that's what matters right enjoy Bill this 20% of your grade my friend yeah I'm gonna be and pretty tink so it's pretty solid it is like I said like I can't make my mind up on I'm not mad at it I still want to play mad at you I want to play it right now so that's the pulse he has made that statement more than any pain that I've heard you're saying a long time I do I just want to play another game do you know what game that I've become this obsessive with was my second pin that I ever owned my Star Trek Star Trek yeah my eyes hurt you're like I don't know is there something about I'm still mixed on it but I just want to play it again yeah yeah and I keep doing I want to master that then I do what a master that's why it's it's a string a little bit so you're to be you enjoy it yeah nothing it'll last I'm just saying though I I the only thing it has is I was obsessive fowler really likes to he's given enjoy building a B+ he's right there he's right there he said it shoots very all caps very well does it has great all caps great flow it's fun it's light-hearted theme integration he said some animations are not able to be canceled and can run long okay so he's saying the same thing that'll be fixed then yeah so that'll be fixed okay but overall he's saying what I've said playing this game nope you can't say what you're gonna say I can't say it's one of the greatest shooting stern pinball machines of all time you can't can I not say the ramp on this may be better than anything that we've seen from sternum you know and I say the orbits are finally perfected by John Borg in this game design I won't say any other really Jon you make me smile a little bit buddy I won't say any of that so that's a b-plus by Fowler Sean Davis he is a surprising little guy I can't wait until it'll guys your big guy little shorter than me I'm not met Sean Davis stocky Bella okay cocky get your side should be nice to you should be yes should be nice he's uh anybody can hurt me Sean Davis is at a see on enjoy building I have promised attorney the location player I've been I've put 300 less games on that damn thing well no ball safe we didn't have to talk about the home code yes we did make it an hour and a half yeah this is a longer view guys and we don't apologize so the ball safe I'm confused about this this is what confuses me about this whole pin to as you know you're talking about the code settings it's approachable by everybody Jason Fowler said this it's much of a one-time shot in there yeah it's approachable by everybody everybody do so you know what I expected I expected this easy shooting long bolt longabaugh like Greg is gonna dominate this is a fast pass it comes back at you because playing him before this and he like he fumbled on the on the plunge yes and you hit a target and drained within two seconds yes you're used to a bowl save I got this but you're just like oh forget it yeah and that's what told I said it's not uncommon to have two balls do almost an instantaneous drain when there's a wee bank on those balls so you do because sometimes you get a bad ones you have careless at the beginning well it's hard though because if you do any sort of hard to plunge and you try to hit it on the fly because those orbits are so bad isn't that ran you don't hit that ramp then it can ricochet your other cool thing about the code that I will bring up is that on your skill shot based on how fast you hit that ramp there's more points and you know what it really seen that I know and it's not a skill shot that you can't hit like you can hit that bastard on the fly a lot it is fast I guess so cool little red coming out here so it's true that's what a feels like what oh my God look that comment brought to you by Miller Lite we can't add another add some well [ __ ] about that guys like why is using a remote control for this but so the ball save you can turn it on December turn it on but don't because it wasn't designed that way me and Zack went through that today I said listen I said move your head well you know I said if the white came in and Dwight said you know what I'm coating the ball saving to come on automatically yeah I accept that and I would play at that and if bored put the that out the post we're hosts were theirs I agree I'm very both of us both of us are very strong on playing a pin the way that it came out of the fray in the way it's supposed to so I deal with that no ball safe but just let me tell you because there's no ball said that does not make it an easy game it is it is brutal it can be tough I've caught myself a couple times I'm playing expecting it yeah some people always give up yeah I'll just let hand you're right you can't do that yeah I don't know dude it's kind of me to round out this will talk about cumulative scores but I've hear I hear a lot of flow speed light shows beauty and respect respect sounds like a lot of respect for this game I think it's a respectful pen myself now when we talk about cumulative grades again you guys are seeing on the screen right now Gregg's percentages you're at a be a three point two three pretty good solid I mean Jason Fowler from slaps a I gotta say one more thing for you is it I need a lot of ridicule for my B's but listen we'll see what these guys do it's gonna be it's not gonna be it's not gonna be lower and it takes a lot to poopoo on Stern's yeah they love things listen I like pinball maybe we'll find in one of these reviews I mean it just wants to [ __ ] all over something maybe that'll be a refreshing statement but these guys didn't you see you see what happens these new pinball machines are all good they argue that they're fast or fun we've nitpick but they're all good yeah we Jason Fowler ends up with the B as well good job dude he's right under you with the 3.17 nice and then we have Sean Davis state champion Sean Davis round us out with a b-minus so you guys are all in agreement it's a beep it nice he's at a b-minus to 0.75 nice so as you guys see on the screen i'ma throw it back up there again look at their weight distributions that's what's really cool about this new way the SD team is reviewing these games yeah Fowler is a very even weight distribution from 10 to 15 percent spread through his categories whereas Sean Davis he's got more spread he's got things like shots and layout and rules and code as being essential 25% is neat because it really showcases what's important what did you to reviewer that's what we were missing before that's what you guys told us and when you guys tell us something we'd listen yes follow-up so we want to make each and every video each and every method that we utilize better we're gonna keep doing that I mean and you're gonna see us use these weighted reviews on older games as well yeah I mean you review yeah guess what's coming up guess what review we're gonna be doing very soon somebody's Castle we're gonna go to it's a scary spooky castle it's got a rockstar I did nothing about this but I'm excited about it at the throne of his castle monster that guard him I literally did nothing about this you know what I'm talking about dinner which is oh yeah I'm excited about it because Alice Cooper's nightmare cancels coming up what do people need to know prior to that though look forward to our new very hearty series yes it's gonna be good man you guys are really gonna enjoy that as always Chuck word on streaming Chuck works again in his busy season right now but Chuck's getting ready to bounce back this major streaming and you're gonna see him review games now yeah yeah we're certified certify some other things if you guys have anybody in particular that you can think of right now that is kind of in the pinball industry whether it's a podcaster or a blog or anybody if you guys want to hear somebody review reach out to us let us know who that person is and we may approach him about being a certified reliever I agree another thing I'll have Zack throw this up on the bottom of the screen there's actually going to be a tournament at wreck bar in Louisville Kentucky it's going to benefit to help get Sean to Las Vegas Oh for the championship so that he can he can represent Kentucky so yeah I mean yes and even though we're Indiana guys like we're like I'm especially me I'm literally right we're considered we're called Kentuckiana that's what our news says and everything else cuz we're right there on the border so in minutes from the border Kentucky exactly so we share a lot some of the Cincinnati folks do that too or Kentucky by some Midwest thing yes so so a most of the people that I know are Kentucky Louisville people so any of you Kentucky people southern Indiana people anybody want to come out help benefit Sean all the coin drop all the coin drop and paying and everything for where that tournament is going to benefit helping get Sean to Las Vegas to Big Boy's for the for the big boy tournament to really represent Kentucky and show what he can do and and you know I congratulate rec bar and I know there's a lot of behind-the-scenes people who have helped you well this is good but you know what like I feel really passionate about this because I really respect the people that put it together for bottle glasses the one in I really respect these people just are crying and know what dude this is what pimples pal oh boy is the coming together as a community it shows how strong our little community is here in this area we'll wait until let's let's hear tomorrow morning let's see if you sound the same way but I don't care I know I got a Drive this morning I'm sure to 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