SDTM Episode 79: TOP 10 Pinball Worlds Under Glass

Straight Down the Middle·video·39m 11s·analyzed·Nov 15, 2018

Analysis

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TL;DR

SDTM ranks top 10 'world under glass' pinball machines, placing Wizard of Oz #1 and debating thematic immersion.

Summary

Zach and Greg from Straight Down the Middle rank their top 10 pinball machines based on 'world under glass'—the immersive thematic integration that makes players feel like they're traveling through a cohesive universe rather than simply playing a machine. They debate the subjective definition throughout, ultimately ranking Wizard of Oz #1, followed by Whitewater at #2, with Medieval Madness at #3, Lord of the Rings at #4, and others including The Simpsons Pinball Party, Fire, Popeye, Pirates of the Caribbean, Ghostbusters, and The Flintstones rounding out the list.

Key Claims

Wizard of Oz is the greatest world under glass in pinball as of now and probably always will be given how people are building machines nowadays
medium confidence · Greg states this as his top ranking, defending against claims that Pirates of the Caribbean should be ranked higher
Star Wars is not a world under glass because the playfield looks barren and doesn't feel like Star Wars until the code and modes activate it
medium confidence · Zach and Greg discuss Star Wars as an example of a game that relies on display/sound/code integration rather than physical playfield world-building
The Hobbit (Standard Edition) relies too heavily on the LCD screen and doesn't achieve world under glass as effectively as Lord of the Rings
medium confidence · Comparison discussed when debating whether to include The Hobbit alongside Lord of the Rings
Dialed In has complaints because much of its world under glass is actually on the LCD screen rather than the physical playfield
medium confidence · Greg mentions this as a limitation when discussing the definition of world under glass
Medieval Madness doesn't have the confines of something pulling you into the world like Whitewater does, which gives Whitewater an edge
medium confidence · Hosts debate why Whitewater ranks above Medieval Madness despite both being classics
Stern's current machines are the furthest from producing world under glass compared to other manufacturers
medium confidence · Greg states this opinion about Stern's current design philosophy versus boutique manufacturers
Jersey Jack Pinball has world under glass potential with their upcoming games, and Deep Root Pinball may also deliver it
low confidence · Speculative discussion about future manufacturer capabilities
Oktoberfest (American Pinball) feels more like you're at a fair/carnival/roller coaster than a true world under glass
medium confidence · Zach defends Oktoberfest as having world under glass elements; Greg pushes back

Notable Quotes

“It encompasses the title that it is. It pulls you in. It makes you feel like you are a part of that pinball machine, not that you're just simply playing the pinball machine, but that you are actually existing and traveling through that universe that is under that glass.”
Zach@ 2:13 — Defines world under glass philosophy for the episode
“You can't define it—you can't put a definition on world under glass. It was hard. You know when you see it. When you say it, and you know when you feel it.”
Greg@ 3:26 — Core theme: subjective nature of the concept
“If I'm just looking at the world under glass, it's not like you use ecto goggles to see the holographic ghosts that you can hit.”
Zach@ 6:31 — Arguing Ghostbusters lacks true world under glass due to reliance on code/animation
“It's like watching a movie...there's some theater in the world that you go to, and it's literally like a naked stage with a couple of chairs, and everybody is talking, and it's still a wonderful play. But what adds more when you got a beautiful set?”
Greg@ 19:26 — Theater metaphor explaining why world under glass matters beyond gameplay
“When you have a door that comes down like a drawbridge, yeah, and then a gate behind it that you have to hit open, and then a big castle, I don't care how many things I have to rate that castle. It is fine.”
Zach@ 24:45 — Defending Medieval Madness's immersive mechanical design
“You're in the mountains. You're whitewater rafting. The way the ramp...A Sasquatch...pulls your ball into a world thumbnail.”

Entities

Straight Down the MiddleorganizationZach MinneypersonGreg Boneperson Jersey Jack Pinballcompany Wizard of Ozgame Whitewatergame Medieval Madnessgame

Signals

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competitive_signal: 1990s Bally/Williams machines (Medieval Madness, Whitewater) establish gold standard for world under glass that modern manufacturers struggle to replicate
high · Two of top 3 are 90s Bally/Williams; discussion of how current designs fragment into toys/mechs rather than unified environments
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competitive_signal: Jersey Jack Pinball significantly outperforms Stern Pinball in world under glass execution; Wizard of Oz and Whitewater (classic Bally/Williams) dominate top rankings
high · Wizard of Oz #1, Whitewater #2; multiple Stern titles criticized for lacking cohesive playfield worlds; explicit statement 'Stern's the furthest from producing that again with their current machines'
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design_philosophy: Pirates of the Caribbean criticized for having too many independent mechanical elements (ships, maelstrom, chest, spinning map) that don't unify into a cohesive world, despite Zach defending it
medium · Greg argues individual elements don't add up to world; Zach counters that it still feels like pirate adventure; compromised at ranking #8
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design_philosophy: Hosts argue that world under glass—immersive thematic environment—is a major (often unacknowledged) factor in what makes classic pinball machines beloved, contradicting hardcore players who claim only code/shots matter
high · Central thesis of episode; repeated statements like 'a lot of the reason that they're fantastic pins is not the designer code. It's the world under glass element that people do not want to admit.'
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market_signal: World under glass is described as 'very taboo' in competitive pinball circles but remains crucial factor in home collector satisfaction and game valuation

Topics

World under glass philosophy and definitionprimaryImmersive thematic design in pinballprimaryPlayfield mechanics vs. LCD/code integrationprimaryClassic vs. modern pinball design comparisonsecondaryJersey Jack Pinball vs. Stern Pinball design philosophysecondaryRanking and debate methodology in pinball communitysecondaryPinball Expo experiences and community interactionmentionedArt and artwork quality in pinball machinessecondary

Sentiment

positive(0.75)— Hosts are enthusiastic about the games discussed and celebrate the world under glass concept, though they debate rankings and criticize some manufacturers (especially Stern for current output). The tone is passionate and collaborative despite disagreements.

Transcript

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already yeah we're doing another top 10 we haven't done one of these in a while right Nesbitt I think our last one was ramps people enjoy them there's much debate much hatred nez probably got this one wrong - no we always get them right but we did it worlds under glass so this is a big pet peeve for some hardcore enthusiasts that it is right why do people care about world under glass so much are you Pro world under glass I'm very much so are you yeah what does the world under glass mean to you to me it encompasses the the title that it is it pulls you in it makes you feel like you are a part of that pinball machine not that you're just simply playing the pinball machine but that you are actually existing and traveling through that universe that is under that glass okay now like the longest vague explanation so you're saying theme integration kind of yeah yeah they're not to an extent some may argue that it's very literal like a true world under glass well bet you're looking down into an environment where big toys and mechs might not equate to a world under glass because it's just big toys and mechs actually looking down into what is it is a cyclone or the amusement park one where you see the tops of heads yeah that is a world under glass yeah no I agree with that I can agree with it but I also think that it that helps encompass and pull you in but I think that it can look like a miniaturization of that world all you want and still not feel like it mmm so it's more integration as well to you yes it's not just what it looks like but at how much it pulls you in yeah I think it's a little both mmm what did we do this ranking system we did a little bit of a little bit of both just that you can't define you you can't put a definition on world under glass it was hard you know when you see it when you say and you know when you feel it oh there's Star Wars is that a world that's your likeness see that's the tricky part because it's not no that would be most one of the most barren world it does not look like Star Wars when you look like Dwight's coding and the shots helps make it feel a lot more Star Wars II when you're in some modes and stuff so that would be but overall man that would be world outside of glass because it has to do with the the displays the sounds right it's a combination of all of it I mean I mean if we're getting that technical we're going that world under glass it's like like literally only what's under glass well that's what we are then yeah because I mean if you think about dialed in whether this makes our list or not one of the complaints might be a lot of that world under glass is actually on the LCD screen it is it is this Hobbit gonna make it so let's get into it you ready yeah the number-10 world I gotta get my notes here world under glass Flintstones yeah but I kind of had to argue for this I know it's not the greatest you know what you and I did argue over this top 10 more than we usually do yeah you've got the freakin stone houses it feels like bedrock bedrock you get the bowling pins yes it feels like you're in bedrock you have a brontosaurus actually in the game that's lit up yeah I mean what more can you ask for than that honestly like I did I kind of advocate for it to be maybe a little higher if you're gonna get as technical as you were about fully just under their glass and what it looks like cuz it's a miniature bedrock it is it's me I can't argue against that it does feel like a world even right even the print the print is prehistoric it's got a lot of that orange stone it feels like the show okay I'm fine with that but it's a good one it's on good one okay number nine what number nine okay so this one I had higher yeah you said probably shouldn't even be in the game yeah Sterns Ghostbusters yeah did you do because I'm again like it's like what what level are you want like what what is there there's a slime Ermac yeah a slammer okay because a lot of the same if you're not encompassing sounds because that's else all the cool house okay you're not encompassing what your your DMV animations no then I don't need that there's not much thing well there's a cityscape over the pop bumpers there's a subway that goes under the subways that is a crucial part of that film it is a second part but you still don't feel I don't I don't feel you look into if I was just looking at the world in the glass it's not that you use ecto goggles to see the holographic ghosts that you can hit yeah but we're actually killing the arrows well just say it's the premium belly okay exactly again the whites code makes it feel like a world okay i I'd put it on that okay like not take away for it from from yetis art like you that's what makes it feel like you know it's you're looking Zetas you see the top you don't like responding ghosts you get along they shoot the phasers that is a world I mean it is it is but I don't think it's as strong as some okay yeah compromises what straight down the middle is all about right yeah compromising on my ideas sometimes more than others okay number eight number eight I had to argue for as well middle an art you know yeah I had this up higher you shot her down a little bit I'd like to argue with this one this is Jersey Jack's Pirates of the Caribbean top ten world's under glass why not why not when I look down I see the world of pirates I see ships that are sway I see a cannonball being shot another cannibal I see it a maelstrom a whirlwind if you will I see a chest that you love balls in you you'd bit yourself in the ass at the beginning of this video I see lighting that looks like water they do the inserts like no other sunset you get the large you've got the stars that constellations you know they coded that they coded lighting to look like the Sun is setting on the LCD screen on but it's like what you said at 3:00 in the video uh-huh defending my boys and Max King don't necessarily equate to a world under glass into me now there's too many variations of the film in that one area you get the ship like you said you've got a sunset well now you get the gazing stars now you get a spinning map you've got a chest over here you've got the Maelstrom but it's not all belong together they all belong to getting it all belong in the film they all belong in the world but they all belong in the world but it's too large of the world to bring so many things to make it feel like let's see that little world doesn't exist I see and I hope you guys help it make sense for you guys and you've gotta size your suit WOB the freakin game it feels more like a an engineering toy mech Marvel yeah it does a world oh yeah if you focus on each of those independent things cuz art were second we'll just have faces that's not much of a war and like I said the ship is separate if I'm just focusing on the rocket ship I feel like I'm in Peyer you know if I feel like that you know I'm looking at the back and the star and I'm in this little it feels like the starry night back there but as a whole it doesn't encompass and pull you into a world because it's almost too too much to feel unified you sort of get it I do get I get what you're saying but it's I mean it's number eight for a reason they're still off because when I look down I see and I feel pirates yeah everything Pirates like that game more than any I just feel like I'm in the world of being as a swashbuckling he aren't pirate that is shooting cannonballs see I don't feel that that much you know I love all the toys I think somebody's angry that they didn't make this top ten haha I argued for that I did I know that I did argue but yeah you understand like I do get it I get it so I was okay we were okay compromising it made it into Lisbeth's and the real freaking fantastic and fun it's a top ten of all time greatest world's under glass and pinball I mean who can be angry at that nobody number seven oh I love this game and everybody hates this game bloody family which I agree with it though number seven is a super pin and it's one of the best super pins ever made by ballet will very underrated yes I will agree it is let's hear your Popeye give a nice beanie there it is Wow all right it's pop more of a Bluto your Bluto and olive oil okay toss that up for you I knew you were gonna say what's wrong with you what's wrong so that's number seven is pop art is still divided away you know when you look now to widest delight esteem and make sure if anybody is watching in the pinball industry make sure to reach out to us and tell us whether you're a huge fan of mine and I'll put you on my starting lineup or Greg needs a little help over here so maybe maybe be on team great careful with this ruler now believe me I know what's coming when you look at Popeye great you walk up to that game you think Oh but what do you see what do you really feel like you're on a ship I do feel like I'm literally in one of those cartoons it looks like a she's got so much going on it is fantastic even around that apron it looks like the is it the stirring of the all these boats making it yeah we don't sail obviously no wait somebody sure to correct this so the be up to them at the point of the the Rose and Jack if you will at the beginning of the boat we should do that shouldn't we yes being rose again no I emily's olive oil he's rum Leo I'm Leo you're the one yeah Rose better even higher you're the whiny little rose that says she's not gonna let go and any chance he gets he lets go hey so I made for sell your Kate Winslet ain't no what was smoking cause she was man okay hey alright so Popeye whenever I look down I do see a ship even the artwork itself of bluto's arms is made to look like and then we got the three-dimensional Bluto that's fighting you in the middle of the ship the upper deck of the ship right where the stacks are going up that makes takes about a world under glass 100 great with Titanic be you never hear anybody argue for a Titanic I mean I don't really want to see leo well I do I love you I love you too but night 20 year old Leo from Titanic I'm okay with that well I like Gilbert great leo remember Gary dams but how great could that be though like nobody ever talks what you could do with that licen what would you do with it though I don't know not bandmembers overboard or something I don't know sink the damn sure the one that falls and hits the thing in the world maybe you've got a chance of diverting away from the iceberg I don't know man no you can't video motor these are all and Kate Winslet naked [Laughter] Wow we have a tangent there's a Leo I just got my mind going think I make it Kate moving on to number number six is an underdog I don't think it's the greatest game but no one can deny it is truly a pinball world under glass and that is fire the old system 11 third game but yeah minimal is it though it's a one-trick pony but it looks like a cityscape start the game out where everything's fine then the fire erupts and the little spinning thing in the play field it looks like the buildings on fire and you have to go up the the ramps and save the people then now what that's beautiful like third game or not like that's a city on fire we can meet yeah it's and it even this is this is out of the glass but if we're talking integration just for the purposes of us never talking fire ever again glass back glass and yeah the back glass moves right and it ain't the Bell yeah yeah the fire will but that doesn't count but just under the glass that is a true remarkable world under glass all right on to the next one my friend number five so we're halfway through this list number five is a game that you own Lethal Weapon 3 no that might be one of the worst no it's a game you won't feel like I'm carrying a newsie every day when I play a game pill oh yeah yeah fine correct kickback no it is the Simpsons pinball party by stern early 2000s I had argue for that one I just didn't feel like I just didn't feel like it is a true world under glass maybe a deserve to be in the top ten but number five pitch us what why why world under I got the couch you've got the garage you've got the character that it feels like you're in their world when you're talking about my power plant yeah I mean you get the power plant but I mean okay the airplanes a good point it's at a halt bumpers like you know it's like with with pirates the world's largest couch yeah I mean yeah but I mean you know you got a poo or whatever in this convenience store you just said there's a poo over the coast big one there's a pile of poo comic book stores we should have included south it's just character zone yeah but but this you know like him rushing home get to the garage like from the bar like there's it encompasses a lot homers head moves around watches yeah I mean that's kind of a little scale stuff like I says it's not this if you know where's pinball Abbi yeah it's pretty good stuff that goes I mean it just feels like the world the art the the mechs everything it feels like you feels almost like the opening scene of The Simpsons and I know that you guys a very iconic yeah a very iconic series yeah American culture yeah and I think that that's sort of what substance and I nails it yeah I think that's what sort of separates it from like if you're arguing about pirates and the toys and different mechs in there I think these like you said they're more iconic and distinguishable versus they make you feel like you're in Springfield yes or especially it make you feel like you're in the Simpsons home yeah you when you get hit hop you go through the garage door just like on the Sears go right the big to go inside and then they all sit on the couch before this episode starts and that's how you're you're literally putting the Simpsons / via each Bowl along it has to start that multiple you got a Lian's you got it you do got a lady and Scratchy show it goes on you've got that Auto the bus driver you got Bart on a skateboard yeah okay I'm okay with that yeah maybe not at number five but I'm okay with it I'm good with that moving on to number four number four one of the greatest pinball machines of all time think you're gonna see a theme here for the top five are there for a reason because these are fantastic pins and a lot of the reason that they're fantastic pins is not the designer code it's the world under glass element that people do not want to they don't want to admit it no world under glass is very faux pas means a lot right the the true players are gonna say I don't care if I'm in a world I just want to score points yeah have good shots and have good code okay I don't care if there's a school but in there and I when I'm on location and I'm playing in a tournament I don't give a either but at the same time I like the own pins and I want that at home because it just feels good it feels fun it's like watching a movie I mean that's like going it's like to me and I know that you could still encompass it and everything but like you know there's some theater in the world that you go to and it's literally like a naked stage with a couple chairs and and everybody is talking and it's still a wonderful play it's written very well but what adds more when you've got a beautiful I don't feel like you're in that world you're seeing them but you know what I'm seeing that that makes that the experience of that that stage shows so much better if you can rely on that those two help boost your imagination and that's what I like to dive deep into a pin when I'm playing it like I bet you do yeah I do no no no mom marco specialties same-day shipping accessible website exceptional customer service and with over 50,000 different pinball parts in stock marco specialties is a must for every pin Mullen and operator preacher pinball machine right by visiting Marco speck calm now Chrome it brass at black nickel a kingly chrome at powder coated the possibilities are endless at pinball play team.com your pinball 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heavily on the LCD so it does you know honest he's got talking dragon yeah yeah but it's still it's still okay you get a lot of metal feels like the weapons I mean I got pop bumper barrels yeah I mean that's awesome but it's still the rest of its oh yeah beautiful beautiful Lord of the Rings is fantastic it really is every part of that is very much a world under glass I still think it's one of the greatest pinball machines ever made in in every direct like absolute like there's other than the the washout artwork and the clip art make just say so little and that you can see about that machine yeah it's I agree it's all around a phenomena at our review except for the art yeah I mean to me it would far surpass it would be in the numbers if it was more beautiful to me it would be in the realm of medieval madness monster bashes it would be in that realm of pricing if the art was better I just think those those machines are so in the right ramp I still not have been ramped Betsey George and expose oh yeah I think he avoided me might have I tried to avoid you you did a pretty damn good job I literally Joe Joe from from jjp yeah Joe was like crazy I was leaving and I gave Joe a handshake yeah him stuff bye and he was like where's your other half at and I was like she's standing right here he was like no the one I had seen all weekend because I was music I just busy working seeing you all over the place you see it seems act nowhere I did I end up talking to Joe very shortly and personable he's not when I was doing the walkthrough but Ciel's working again you were gone and headed to Lou end of the entire Expo or exact finally sees people oh my good friend Steve Denver Steve week on Denver Steve even though he's not from Denver British color oh I've hung out with the dude like one evening all night and he tells you Elwood Denver Steve for three days did you yeah I had so many friends and expose Denver's and nobody knew where you were I mean I was was playing pinball seven o'clock in the morning free light with coffee oh really yeah oh man we tore it up okay dipper Steve gave me some phenomenal Scotch me and didn't receive had a glass of scotch together world under glass okay so that's number four number three is good I think the reason that this pin is so loved a lot of it is I think a third of it is because it's a world under glass its medieval madness easily yeah freaking fantastic it shoots good yes codes good yeah when you have a door that comes down like a drawbridge yeah and then a gate behind it that you have to hit open and then a big castle I don't care how many things I have to rate that castle it is fine it has a catapult that is very medieval throws the ball it also has the damsel in distress that you have to hit past the dragon into her little uh a little what do you call that a little tower if you will that that's very much medieval madness is now people are like wait a minute that should have been the top one yeah how is that not number one world under glass see you below it I could see arguments yeah because it I can see that or wanting to or better though there yeah I mean this was the tough thing about this because there's a bunch that we left off but it's like they're also very similar like in this it was very hard to to put one in front of the other even in the ten that we had a lot of was a tough one we're very hard yeah because there's so many different aspects that you could argue well this this and this I mean we could be here for days with a damn diagram of why everything of why because well this how ways this well now but this one right here outweighs this huh it's did we not forget trolls popping out of the playfield for the win I mean come on you beat them up come on you're beating them up that's awesome reminds me of gummy bears this may that's what that reminds a disability that is a gummy bears pan yes of course I do drink a little uh what is that juice gummiberry juice buried yeah yeah yeah it's whipped everybody's a no kids of the nine years aren't we you know every day cocaine ourselves pushed nineties right yeah ain't nobody who's the bad guy in that nothing it was that like that this was like a night yeah like the guy on the back glass I said I'm saying you know his little trollee sidekick yes what was that that's my whole point about how that you could make this up gummy bears reminds me of gummy bears it we do need a gummy bears pin there's every out seriously good jump the shark yeah that's it right there know like and subscribe snakes my little pony alright so here's why number one and two or better okay number two is also a ballet Williams 90s Bally Williams 90 owned on world under glass a lot so we're gonna go to a Nordmann special in whitewater that I mean you're there you're in the mountains you're whitewater rafting you yeah the way the ramped a sasquatch you mute sasquatch he pushes your ball into a world thumbnail the governor when I first got into pinball I I heard a lot about fish tails boulders you got boulders everywhere throughout the whole people during the first time I googled a whitewater I was like holy crap oh oh my god I think this exists yeah I've just got a lost world that's a pinball machine I've got a freaking egg that opens and I was amazed like look at this I think because of the structure the rock structure that surrounds it I think that's what puts it over the top medieval madness I do too because add to what pulls you in yeah on medieval madness you only you don't have the confines of something pulling you into that world you just have the different people well exactly and this this isolates one whole world is on a diorama yep almost it is literally like a school project you know setting inside of a pinball machine which it is that is that separation I can do you feel like you're going down waterfalls yeah not only do you get the roller coaster one but then it swirls around by the flipper yeah yeah I mean come on that's whitewater one of your greatest world's under in pinball number one people are like I think people know right people know they do the greatest world underclass and pinball is and probably the way people are building machines nowadays probably always will be it's Jersey Jack pinball's Wizard of Oz not my favorite Jersey Jack game on the lineup but no one can argue what they look down in there that is that's all of us and some of you might be saying well okay well you can there either so much going on how do you not equate that to the same thing as pirates but to me again it's just a chess it's a ship these are very specific things to the film you get to fly on monkey you've got the house you've got the witches cast different worlds you've got different aspects of that world but that are very specific to that film that is recognizable like The Simpsons it's that iconic Ness even though it encapsulates a lot of the whole of the world not just one specific scene right yeah Horsham I think it does like what we talked about with the Simpsons where that everything so iconic in there that that's what makes it feel like the movie and then like the spinning house the way that they do the mechanisms in there mm-hmm pull you in even more yeah to me when I look down at The Wizard of Oz I see color and nothing screams Wizard of Oz then beautiful rainbow colors you have that but it looks like Superman yeah they're ruby red slippers and you have the artwork of the witch that's scared of them so she's doing this whole number every time you're flipping them things that but when I look down at it I see Oz I see a map I see the witch's castle yeah I see down towards the apron this is the fair balloon that's floating away I see Munchkinland to the right the ball lock and then right before they're traveling the elbe railroad that falls into munchkin Lane yeah we've got the Wicked Witch that comes out of the well you know and that's what she does in the film I have a winged monkey that comes down out of the castle very appropriate picking up the ball and capturing it like they do deadly yeah it feels like it feels like you live every one of those scenes you literally it's like you're traveling is it like down that yeah brick road like you you feel every scene of that the molded pot bumpers that are trees of the haunted forest yeah terrified that's below I mean everything even even everything is where it's supposed to be - yeah you've got the castle up top then you've got the haunted forest down below one wizard wrongs I find it all gets hard I know but just like it's really hard I want when I can afford really hard to say it's so beautiful yeah it's really hard to shoot so Wizard of Oz is the greatest world under glass as of right now we'll see what jjp has up their sleeve or deep root I'm not so sure Neuer Stern's are gonna now make it I know but it wouldn't surprise me if they did it honestly surprised though I think American pinball is right there they're close Dini like we've talked before the milk like we talk does that feel like a world it feels like I might get a magic start part of that I don't know it does it though it doesn't feel like you're in a magic store it just feels like good theming yeah it feels like I'm almost alive on his movie posters like a bit but that's what it is you're you're performing his I don't I'd I do actually I had to an extent I don't yeah free will we all make our own yeah but yeah it goes like brought like an Oktoberfest there number two pin I think it does you can all you want but I think maybe give that art though kind of in a negative way I think it feels like you're at a carnival I still think but are your carnival are you supposed to be at a bar because Otto is at the bar yeah but there's there's a bar at the damn car it is a roller kind of here it's a roller coaster you're there you're on bumper cars at the bumpers that's what I'm saying the lights you've got a ferris wheel in the back and that's a 2d plastic with lights on it come on look I'm just saying you know when I look in there it looks like I'm in a fair mmm it's not there it's a VFD yeah it's it's very much world under glass it's not top - no this was even close yes what we're arguing is that's getting close but I agree I think out of everything Stern's the furthest from producing that again with their current machines who knows who knows what monsters will bring us you know honestly knocking the Beatles and all that aside they encompass that era I think is a shitty era of the Beatles but they encompass that a little bit I mean it feels like that that's true that kind of thing you know but that world under glass is like Tignes words it's uh it's time approach it's more female graded that world under glass I agree with you on you know one that should have made the top ten but didn't what Spooky's Alice Cooper nightmare Castle I can agree with that it's got a guillotine and did the whole back of the play feel there's a castle as Frankenstein that jumps out at you 100% agree but the problem with that what are you gonna boot off you can't boot off Flintstones Flintstones is a little bit more than that yeah I wanted a CMC to be in there Alice Cooper to be in there but I think it could have made it I think that's a there could be a strong argument made for that pin definitely so what some honorable mentions what is like the number one honorable mention firm I think so Alice Cooper it was right there monster bash since that I think so yeah at all Creature from the Black Lagoon that adds a world under Glen I can't agree um but does it feel like a movie to do those ramps make sense as a movie theater driving not really the the lighting I says yeah I'm creature coming up from the lagoon does but are we dealing are we in the land of the creature are we in the movie so it's a little messed up there Roadshow the redhead Roadshow that's an instruction sir much so you get the rednecks in the battle red test before it picks him back well you got a blast zone you've got the wire forms where the scaffolding and stuff you have a bulldozer front yeah that that's world under flag Adams family people are angry right now they're screaming I can't believe exactly understand this at all I explained to him I was like it's literally like you're in the mansion it feels like you're in the mansion you get the library you've got everything going on like it feels like you get Uncle Fester in exchange that list not Joker sells them mods that library just looks like a blue box yeah it's not great you've got the thing hand that comes Uncle Fester you have the staircase ramp okay okay just didn't move your arm you also have dialed in that literally is a world under glass yeah it makes you feel like you're in a quantum city but it's the LCD integration yeah I think I don't like that I don't think under the glass is that bad I think it no they got drilling so you've got the theater you've got the the theater only helped as uh what is that like a subway system or tram and you get the drones you got it's there's a lot to go on okay yeah we also have Blackwater 100 we wanted to put this in there that's a dirt track that is a motor motorbike dirty up trap there's some something's got to go something can't make the time so we were saying it's so hard because you could just sit there be like this this no not that not that yeah there's that that one's really tough what do we do Blackwater one hundred tales of Arabian Nights yeah that feels like you're in the world of the Middle East during that time you've got your genie in the lamp yeah that feels good too in the what else is there up there Toton so not as much as theater magic theater magic you've got the magic box yeah right you've got the the magic the magic Magnus Yeah right you also have this Tiger soul the magic mirror fantastic man the magic works Bram Stoker's Dracula yeah Dracula it feels like your city yeah it feels like you're not like Sylvania or whatever when they're out there and they're and that uh that graveyard scene and everything it feels like you feels like you're out in the moon I've got here on the gulf and ron jeremy laying there waiting for waiting for temptress that's right but as always oh we don't want a haunted house I could keep going on forever Gottlieb haunted house that is more of just a split-level and artwork rather than any mechanism yeah yeah Jurassic Park by daddy miss a lot of these older Misha Nightmare on Elm Street that creeps me out it's like you get the worl almost like the boiler going on his mouth you can even say daddy's Batman I mean there's a lot of so as always guys make sure to write us let us know what you feel that your top world under glasses are yeah just give us that hot water and then we'll kind of calculate this yeah give us your top world under glass or top three or something tell these people what they need a nose act and that's my life Matt but I'm taking it today subscribe to 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