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Stream 562: TMNT (Stern) Premium

Don't Panic Flip·video·2h 17m·analyzed·Jun 22, 2022
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TL;DR

TMNT Premium gameplay stream highlights character balance concerns and diverter reliability issues.

Summary

Don't Panic Flip stream featuring TMNT (Stern) Premium gameplay with host George and guests Escher (first-time pinball player), Paul (Bumper Nugget), and MJ. The stream discusses TMNT's character balance issues, with particular criticism of unbalanced turtle abilities where only two characters are viable, and mentions Premium Edition diverter reliability concerns from tournament player Tom Graff. Gameplay is interspersed with casual banter about fitness, humor, and stream technical issues.

Key Claims

  • TMNT has only two viable turtle characters out of four; the other two are completely unbalanced

    high confidence · Escher (first-time pinball player and guest) explicitly states character balance complaint during gameplay discussion

  • Tom Graff's TMNT Premium Edition diverter broke three times

    medium confidence · George mentions conversation with Tom Graff about diverter failures; Escher notes diverter is supposed to break often (accepted design flaw)

  • TMNT Premium Edition diverter is intentionally designed to break frequently

    high confidence · Escher acknowledges this as expected behavior: 'It's supposed to break often. I totally get and understand that.'

  • Donatello is by far the best of the four TMNT characters

    high confidence · Escher states 'Donatello is by far the best of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. No question.' when discussing character abilities

  • George ran a 5:52 mile during CrossFit training

    high confidence · George directly states this achievement during casual conversation about fitness

Notable Quotes

  • “The shots don't feel good.”

    Escher@ 7:58 — Initial negative impression of TMNT from first-time pinball player

  • “They aren't balanced at all, it doesn't even feel like there's an attempt to balance them.”

    Escher@ 9:13 — Core criticism of game design: character ability imbalance

  • “Donatello is by far the best of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. No question.”

    Escher@ 11:39 — Confirms severe imbalance where one character dominates

  • “It's supposed to break often. I totally get and understand that.”

    Escher@ 10:50 — Acknowledges Premium Edition diverter breaking is by design

  • “I like Dwight Sullivan. Maybe not the light shows, not so much on some of his older games, but this game is fine.”

    MJ@ 37:17 — Qualified praise for TMNT code/rules by Dwight Sullivan

Entities

GeorgepersonEscherpersonPaulpersonMJpersonTom GraffpersonDwight SullivanpersonDon't Panic FliporganizationTMNTgameStern Pinballcompany

Signals

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    event_signal: Don't Panic Flip stream featuring TMNT Premium with first-time pinball player (Escher) and mixed-skill group gameplay (3v1 format)

    high · Stream title and full gameplay documentation; explicit statement: 'his first time playing pinball'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: TMNT has severe character ability imbalance with only two viable turtle choices out of four; remaining characters are essentially non-viable

    high · Escher: 'They aren't balanced at all, it doesn't even feel like there's an attempt to balance them.' Combined with statement that Donatello is 'by far the best' with no question.

  • ?

    product_concern: Premium Edition diverter breaks frequently by design; Tom Graff's machine broke three times, establishing pattern of reliability issues

    high · George: 'Tom Graff, he said before he stole his, it broke three times.' Escher acknowledges this is expected: 'It's supposed to break often.'

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: First-time player Escher shifts from 'This game sucks' initial assessment to acknowledging game 'plays really well' despite character balance complaints

    high · Early: 'The shots don't feel good...This game sucks.' Later: 'this game plays really well even for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles'

Topics

Character balance and game designprimaryPremium Edition diverter reliabilityprimaryTMNT gameplay mechanics and rulesprimaryStream technical setup and audio issuessecondaryFirst-time pinball player experiencesecondaryCode quality by Dwight SullivansecondaryMultiplayer game modes and shared progressmentioned

Sentiment

mixed(0.45)— Escher (first-time player) expresses strong initial negativity toward TMNT ('This game sucks') and criticizes character balance severely. However, as gameplay progresses, sentiment becomes more positive with acknowledgment that the game 'plays really well' despite rules imbalances. MJ provides qualified praise for Dwight Sullivan's code design. Overall: critical appreciation—game mechanics work well but design balance issues are real problems.

Transcript

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Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Good evening, everyone. Check that out over there. Is that an S? A logo I got my friend to make three years ago. So the only thing I would change about that is go with a transparent background. Yeah, you think? Yeah. No, again, I made it a really long time regardless for my Twitch picture and my Twitter and stuff, and I just never needed it to be transparent. Hi, my name is George. This show is Don't Panic Click. We've got some Nine Inch Nails on in the background while we also have our first most esteemed guest here this evening. It happens to be Escher. Escher, welcome to the stream. Thank you. I'm happy to be here. Awesome. And, uh... My first time playing pinball. Thank you. I was getting there. I was getting there. Never played pinball before. Out of all the pinball battles that have ever been, this is sure going to be one of them. Thanks, Chaotix, Kisco, TNK, welcome to the stream. For now, for the very near future, it's just going to be us two. we're going to get warmed up on TMNT and plan for MJ and BumperDuggy to come in and just play cold. But it will be three new ones. What's that? Monster? I don't know. Three-headed monster or something like that. Whatever. It's actually still going to win, and it's fine. We're just going into it knowing that... You're going to share progress? Yes. That makes it a lot easier for me because then you don't get to just play six multiballs just as mine, too. Oh. No, no, no. It's shared progress overall, but we all get to play our own multiples. Oh, okay. So that makes it extra hard. Yes. I think it really does step things up. Best way to warm up TMNT is with kerosene and a match. That's tight. Where is this game on your... Bottom. It's way bottom. This game sucks. God, that hurts. It hurts. Okay. Okay, what specifically do you not like about me? Again. I knew it when I said it. The shots don't feel good. Hold on one sec. I'm Mr. Redeem because... What profile am I streaming under right now? Like, I'm on Don't Panic Flip, right? View Docs... Where's my Twitch docs? So I have my chat. Oh, there it is. Twitch stats. Nope. Stream information. I'm just missing the events. Oh, the activity feed. There it is. Smelling Thank you, CMK, and you're wonderful. Fries acid test, welcome to the stream. Okay, continue on. You were saying? How much I hate this game? Yeah, yeah. Sorry. I'll have to talk about it. Yeah. Explain while you're blowing it up, please. So a few things that I really like about white games in particular is that you always have something that you can choose. Right? And this one, they like the four turtles, where only two of them are viable whatsoever. Like, they aren't balanced at all, it doesn't even feel like there's an attempt to balance them. Okay, so in the rules, you don't like that the four different players that you get to play as, they're unbalanced. Yeah. They're not like, you know, like, oh, I think I'm gonna go with this, cause I wanna, it's like there's nothing to it. It's like either you want your outline saved or you don't. You get your outline saved, you get easy aprils, or you pick the red one and you get a longer multiplier. Or like a bigger multiplier, whatever his ability is. I don't even remember. Raphael gives, oh my god, the red one? Right there! That's the indicative of the importance that Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Why? Because it's offline. Ah! That's our thing. It's not big deal. Well, when everyone's chatting later, I'll sneak in and do the... What, is he not red? Is that what you're saying? Well, crocodile is red, and the red one gives you immediate access to a boat. So, which one is it? Dr. Curly Tech saying they were all red originally. By the way, I do have the smelling salts in case. I'll hit it just before playing. So, I'm the one that I always play the Kyra 3 deck all the time. The blood is just mine. It was a lot of them actually. Right. Which is lame and boring. Especially with how important this is. The premium is fine, like it's got a cool gimmick, but the diverter breaks all the time. It's supposed to break often. I totally get and understand that. Mine works. And that would be important. Mine would work for the fact. But I was talking to Tom Drack, he said before he stole his, it broke three times and it must be 500 points. Oh my god. CK, this is for you. Oh my god, I think I pressed that too hard. There are other redeemers. Oh my god, that is the biggest. Oh, my nose feels... I feel like I broke my nose. I feel like I have a bloody nose or something right now. Oh, I did not want to start this. Oh, so you're saying that there's some turtles that are way worse than others? No. Donatello is by far the best of the ninja turtles. No question. Yeah, but his power fucking sucks. His power... Well, it depends. In a tournament, I feel like if... If what I'm trying to do is get a feel for a game, I might go, I might go down the road. In the same way that when Garlands was initially released, the thought was to get directly into Quill, in order to get a feel for the game before it even began. I was trying to, like I wish I could, that's the one thing I said I wish that I had started before they rolled out the most recent update. is that I wanted them to make it so when you started a game, it always defaulted to having to kill it first. Right? Because when a new player sets up to a game, I want them to be in a multiball. Especially with, like, an operator. Because, like, at Lions, when I'm sitting there working, I see people play Guardians. They pick a mode that has no idea what's going on. And then... Yeah, yeah. So... We got there. You know what, you missed an amazing multiball. It was quick, but it was fantastic. It's remarkable how little I did, and he still barely passed me. It went in a multiball. But, uh, yeah, that's a good stream right there. Do you guys ever make a play field in the night? You just have to talk through it. They don't get to see it. That, I feel like, is where it really ends. Yeah, it's a good stream. Build a playfield on stream where it's like Madden. With Chad's opinions, how awesome and consistently awesome the people are. Who wants to ask a question? I wasn't directed, I guess. Also, the other thing that I always did like about the diverter on this game I'm sorry, I didn't feel that way. This is directed at you, Jack. I'm not sure how much your game is, but... Yeah, this game in particular is fine. Oh, no. Okay. $5,000. $5,000. $5,000. $5,000. $5,000. $5,000. $5,000. Five thousand in bonus. It's going to be a rough battle if I'm playing like this. I like that, the face only. It wasn't directed at you, it was directed about you. Exactly. Yeah. Because, like, we weren't laughing at you. We were with you. Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, I don't know. I've never actually, like, I've had, like, ideas for a... What? Manu! Welcome! Have you checked your butthole, George? I have not checked my butthole today, I can tell you that. Manu, how is the stream? How are you doing? How are things? Thank you everyone for coming over. Tonight, we have a wonderful battle where we get to see extra feed up on not one person, but three people simultaneously. But now it's not happening. Oh my god. If that's all I have to do is say it's going to happen to make it not happen, I'll do that later. I'm sitting at 160K after two balls. That's a lot of have you checked your buttholes. Hey, DeFishbowl, BBBeans, HigherPeanut, MPC3K, FlipStream, aka Brian, aka Caviel, IronFox, GameClubCentral, Surreal7, how are you all doing? Thank you so much for joining us. Mark your reasons today. That's great to have. The ones specifically that we are testing. Testing? Mike, you did? I did. Well, check out the mic. Your mic is not on, George. Your mic doesn't look on. What are we adding? It's far away. I think we're on the wrong mic. Are we on this one? I don't think so. I think we are. We're on this one. Hmm. You're a mic. Yeah, you're a mic. Hold on. I checked this beforehand. We are not. Look at that. We are on the wrong mic. Hi, everybody. How was that? There we go. Yeah, that should be much better. Real and true. apparently you didn't check two things so far today George you're getting old you forgot to put your activity feed up and now you forgot to swap your mic I've been better I've been better George I need higher quality streams if I'm going to raid you Manu I'm providing the highest quality streams I can offer Every time I come over, there's new equipment that he wants to show off. Some new stuff. He says a bunch of words. I'm like, yeah, that's nice. I don't know what this does. Sweet. That's my new arcade. I dug it work. There's a crazy combination of me not speaking Japanese What? I can give it another vertical bump. That was a pretty good, I think that was a double. Yeah. Real ones, like Kisco knows what true quality looks like. Like 2017 Stevo Pump streams, where I was streaming with like the worst quality ever, like 468p on Twitch. one like only Logitech cameras that was those were the days those were the days I can't believe nobody mentioned beforehand that the audio was so bad like that's a sure microphone a good five feet away from us as opposed to four wireless mics here I'm speaking currently into three mics all at once Uh-oh, somebody just did something. Game Club Central coming in hot with 100 bits. Game Club Central, you're amazing. Thank you. Hey, Big Brother Pinball, I agree. I like this. Big Brother Pinball, evidently a fan. I disagree with your opinion. We have Jedi I don't understand why that didn't play Wait, hold on Is that number three for the night, George? That is What is going on You are getting called Oh, you know, once again Because streamer five sucks than usually orange or... Just smell more salt. Oh, did somebody redeem more smelling salts? Mmm, smelling salts. I thought someone redeemed something. Okay, but that was the tight redeem smelling dice. Thank you. Wait, you guys can redeem smelling salts for MJ and Paul when they get here, by the way. Instead of a sun, smell more salt. You heard him. Hold on. I don't understand why belly and chat event. There it is. Events are very visible. Something's flashing right now. 14 million? What? Hello. What? How did you get 14 million? This was the first game. This was the game I was going to win. I only ever win one game every evening. It's always the first game. Sammy Higgins, welcome to the stream. What is that? No, higher peanut. Yeah, they don't know about it yet, but obviously that's a huge part of them coming over. They just don't know yet. A billion points. Nope. Let's see how much this is. See, now that... Did you say a billion? No. I was asking for a billion. Okay. Okay. No, Flipstream, evidently don't do any of the actions. I have to disable them. And I also have to give people back things. Or you can just smell more smelling salts. I can just continue smelling all of the smelling salts. How much was that? Eight million? Eight million? Are you kidding me? This is TMNT. He's Mondo Jackpot's a lot. I don't know what I did. There's just a lot of points happening. Can I just have my red sweater back, George? Come on, what is the red sweater? Be my Mondo Jackpot. Is it red stapler? Are you going to blow the building up? This is the future electronic Rube Goldberg setups. The Red Wedding? Just alternate salts and shots, George. We'll make it a real interesting stream. I have to work tomorrow. Thankfully, I don't have my kid right now. So, like, I don't have to be up at 7 in order to drive my kid to school. A good stream. Thank you very much for refunding. I will definitely hit up the smelling salts. I have that out right now. This is America, George. You cannot work anytime you'd like. Actually, this is the country where it's the hardest to not work. That is a really good point. Pay leave? Yeah, when you have a kid, we're one of the worst. oh yeah that's not I mean there's places that don't offer any yeah but like we're America man maybe we should maybe we should have a little more Jedi McMuffin says gosh I'm jealous of how smooth your upper nipper feet look yeah oh yeah Jedi this game plays really well even for turtles but that's the thing it only plays well when Escher's playing when other people play it's awful hashtag we're the worst Joe Eyre welcome to the stream I wrote a pretty extensive paper on parental leave not that long ago absolutely disgusting how terrible we are at it true what I said true yeah no no that is That is definitely truth right there. It's a harsh truth. Real and true. Flip stream. There's a sausage place in town here called We're the Worst. I used that joke on my brother when I went to go see him in South Carolina. He said, dude, you're the worst. I'm like, you know, you know what is the worst? Brats. And he's like, why would you say that? Like, maybe Polish sausage is better than brats, but brats are great. Brats are pretty great. And the brats are amazing. But he just didn't get it. And then it was great because I had this moment. I am usually the person who doesn't get the joke all the time. That's where I live, is not getting the joke. But I got it in that instance, and I got it, and so did his wife. And we just kind of looked at him until he's like, wait a second, I missed something. And then had to explain it to him, and I'm like, yes, it was a D for once. I was wondering how this multiball is worth more than Cowboy Bunga. Yeah, split stream, just like a henway. My news, this is George. You didn't get, like, two of my jokes tonight. It's okay. I definitely didn't get the red sweater. Hey, Dan, thank you so much for changing the color of the stream. Hey, Dice, what's an up dog? Your brother's sole interest is showing off the wild meeps in his freezer, Dice. You are not wrong. My brother goes and hunts all of his own meat. And he loves, and he will talk for hours, hours about hunting and using a bow and arrow and all of the stuff he does. It's kind of like when somebody does, sorry, it's a special type of workout where you basically make yourself throw up. What am I thinking of? It's the workout where it doesn't, there's, like, you don't use gym components. You just throw up by doing a lot of things very quickly. Not interval. Ball. That's a good ball. Don't panic. Sheep wallop. Welcome to the stream. Bulimia? No, Game Club Central. That is not a workout. Um, no, um, I almost said hardcore. That is... Dude, you had less than a million going into ball three. I had 500,000. CrossFit, thank you, big brother, yes. CrossFit isn't making yourself throw up. It is absolutely all about making yourself throw up. I did CrossFit for three years. I never threw up. Maybe I was just doing it wrong. Maybe, maybe you weren't doing it right. Oh, no. I was in the best shape I ever was. When I ran my patch this mile. Nice. What'd you run? Oh, like a 5.52. Oh, my God. That's pretty good. Yeah, that's pretty good. I mean, you know, do it when you're approaching 40. And then I'll be, do 5.52. I will never beat that. But after I got it, I knew that I would never have to beat it. Because it was good enough that when I say it, people are like, oh, okay. Like, that's pretty good. I sure had 500k to start. Game Club Central. Marty, say, sounds awful. Flip Street sounds like torture. Luckily, this game is really broken, so it doesn't matter. You just gotta do one thing and you get a lot of points. What's the one thing? I don't know. I just hit the flash and shot. Is that it? No, that sucks. I gotta save that. That's okay. I'm okay with 80 million or whatever. Blink twice, George, if you need help. vomiting is just weakness leaving the body exactly eyelids are held open with toothpicks i really thought escher was about to say i'll never be 40 do a beer mile at 552 yeah face tone i'm really happy when i hit under eight minutes on a on a mile so i'm and i i like i jogged two miles today and i averaged not 9 30 oh my god it is a good job well and now so i did a 10k which is a little over six miles and now you did a boulder boulder i did the um the colorado marathon 10k so it's like the boulder boulder but not oh my god it's not gonna be the last one though tonight nope i will make sure i get another couple out of chat because you guys know you guys got points i know you guys got you guys got points but don't use them now. Let's wait another hour. Wait, wait, wait. I learned so much from Escher. This is the... You just do the one thing. I don't know what it is, but you do that one thing and you could be so successful. Yep. Talking about bad games, I got to the end of Ghostbusters yesterday. Oh, cool. The Super Mario is actually cool. The Arnie the God? It is awesome. It is a lot of fun. I don't know what happened. Do you get one try at it or what? Yeah, you get one try. Oh, okay. I wouldn't know. I finished it on my own. Can somebody clip that? Eric and Esther? That one plays so easy, the one at, what's it called? I cannot think. In the love words, flip side. Flip side, yeah. Yeah, no, it played really easy. Like, every, the slingshot is a premium, him so the slingshots were really crumbly because of the magnets. Death saves? No! No death saves ever! There we go. I got my skill shot. I got my skill shot. I'll give 10 times your multiball. But uh, yeah the supermode is cool where it gives you a shot or a combo and you have to hit it and it gives you a time limit too. Get around, get around! I actually give you enough points to make it worth your while. So you finish it, you get a billion, and then you get victory last turn. It's like a hundred points a shot. I can't say that I've technically... Oh, wow. I never beat the mode, but I've been to it several times. You've been to it a couple times? Yes. That's... I mean, that's... Oh, it's George? Well, he's been there, but never beaten it. I've never been there before. It's hard to survive that long in my day. If you like played it really boring and you timed out everything you could probably do it like pretty easily. But that's really boring. That's like death saving. No, not even close. Death saving is physical versus the... Timing out modes is hard. You know, hitting the same shot and waiting six seconds. Sounds easy, but try timing out any mode on Star Trek. It's hard. Even on Star Trek where all the shots are easy. You know, I had a spare half hour today to beat Lord of the Rings during my lunch break. No biggie. I wouldn't know what it's like to have difficulty beating Ghostbusters. I did it on my first try. Yeah. Oh, trust me, it was not my... Hi! Paul, welcome! Hi! How are you? Perfect timing! Oh, that's it. You have an extra ball. Darn it. All right. George is having a comeback right now. Yep. Don't call it a comeback. I feel like that's a phrase, right? Maybe. Like, don't jinx it. No, no, no. Isn't that from a song, Don't Call It a Comeback? Hey, Pinball Joe, welcome to the stream. Oh, cool. I didn't think I liked this game. Me too, man. Me too. This game sucks. Sorry. This game is... Nice shirt, though. Thanks, man. Nice. Very nice. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Oh, no. I got the Kmart. Kmart? Yeah. Is there a Kmart here? No, it was actually... I was in New Jersey at the time. I was like, I have not seen a Kmart here. Tracy from Outer Spacey, welcome to the stream. Tracy, it has been entirely too long. Oh, no. George had a long way to go. Yeah. Well, that was when he was traveling to work all the time. Yeah. Nice. Hey, we got that 2x multiplier. 4x now. Dwight Pophambers gave you some awesome rewards. And George has definitely got a chance here if he can finish this load and shoot the left ramp again. I hit it. I hit it. Does it really block your team up because of one, two, three combo? Yes, it is awful. That's, uh... No, no, this game is so awesome, and I love it. It's great. There you go. It's fine. It's fine. Can we time this out? Three, two... You can do the center round. That's all you gotta do. It's great. We'll get there. It's not gonna time out. It's stuck at zero. Not all the way. Just finish it. It's left ram. Okay, well. Okay. Just left ram. How hard can it be? It's good. It's good. It's fine. Normally I could backhand that. Alright. Cool, cool, cool. Take four shots. I love this mode in tournaments because if you don't beat it and your opponent does, you might as well turn the game off. Unless you're ahead by a lot. MJ! Yes! All right, we've got the whole team here. This is good. Lurky working. Tracy is working. Okay. He's got Kaylee's avoid debris and B divisions. Just for the dollar. Those are both great great shirts I don know if you can do it all That makes it very easy Well I don know the difference between It's just the center button. There's a thing in the middle. Right. That you don't even bother. Make it so it feeds the right flipper and you'll be good. Because you can hit every shot from the right flipper except for the right orbit. And the left flipper you can shoot two shots. shots. Get out there! Yes! That's going to stuck. You know the story behind Void Debris? Which one? The Void Debris. A Void Debris? It's in the video mode in Indy 500. No! So I forget who was playing it, but it was at IFPA. I don't remember where, but it was at of PA and someone from Europe who was not a native English speaker was playing the mode but he had never gotten to it before. And on screen it says avoid debris, which is a very strange word to be fair. And he's like, what is debris? Like, what is debris? Like, avoid debris. It is. Yeah. Okay. And he failed the video. Because he was so focused. No, no, no. He actually avoided everything. Like, he didn't pick up the millions or anything. He avoided everything on the road. Because it's like you're in a car and you pick up millions and you also avoid debris. And he just avoided everything and got like 25 million instead of 60. But I don't know if the Kaylee shirt is directly recognizing this. Oh, I'm actually wearing a Kaylee shirt today. The Steve-O. It's also where my name online comes from. It's his shirt. Get there and... We met before, right? Yeah. Yeah, we played a couple times. Debris? Who's she? Oh no Your PPM is not great right now When has my PPM ever been great? I think it's been good a couple times Like when you're directing me shot by shot Yeah, it helps I wonder if the topper of this is awesome The topper is great Oh He almost came back Almost Almost, it's so close alright MJ hi hi what's up it's things are going so well right now so well he forgot like six things on the stream man he's getting old oh yeah yeah no no no we had the wrong microphone because I checked it earlier and evidently like the microphone was out of reset Donatello I don't think I've ever played Donatello this feels so wonderful so what you're saying is that some of the turtles are incredibly unbalanced is what you're saying uh what What is that? No, no. The game is fun, despite the fact that the rules set on it is a little unbalanced right now, but it's Dwight code, and Dwight knows how to make mini wizard modes very enjoyable. I'm going to say that right now. I like Dwight. Maybe not the light shows, not so much on some of his older games, but this game is fine. And between this and... My favorite Dwight light show is on Mandalorian. I was about to say the Mandalorian. So you can't see where your outline save is. That's all of Game of Thrones, by the way. Okay, so what are we doing here? Oh my god, Dice, Mystery Team, Smelling Salt. Wait, was that for me, or was that for Paul? This is for Paul. Yes! Oh, yay! You can start us, yeah. He's done three tonight, so. Okay. Okay, wait a second. I've got to do something for somebody. Nope, I waited too long. Peace. P for Paul, obviously. So, really quick stream. We have a couple of people here right now. A, Escher, whom you met earlier. That's Escher. It's his first time playing pinball. Let's do what we can to make things good for him here. Well, we'll show you. Yes. We've also got Paul, a.k.a. Extra Paul, a.k.a. Bumper Nugget. With the best turtle shirt you've ever seen. The best turtle shirt anybody's ever seen. scene, right? And then MJ, MJ, this is your first time on the stream. You should probably mic them up. I should mic you guys up. Oh my God. That's why I have these two mics. That's for you. But wait, there's more. You just have the box. Hey, Sammy Higgins, was the RIP for the smelling salts or because the stream looks good right now, right? Like we're, we're still live. That's a T-Mart exclusive. Didn't realize Paul was an influencer. Okay, this is very tied up right now. I think the rip was for the, oh, it was for the smelling salts. For the smelling salts, okay, cool. It's your old pal K. Trevor Wilson here. Somebody just, oh, that's why I can't hear any of the stream things. Involve, just subscribe. I got to change the audio. My audio is still grounded in here. being at my studio. That's it on. Man, I was so prepared, but yet so unprepared. It's like there was some security you've ever been. It is. It's so funny because I actually got prepared at 8 o'clock tonight, two hours ago. I was like, you said come over at like 9. I'm like, okay. Yeah. I mean, it was like the one time I couldn't come early, but. Okay. What? How do we get this into? Okay, yeah, you got this. I guess. I've never done it on this game. Are we playing co-op? We're playing 3v1. 3v1. Yeah, that's probably. There it is. I get to go for it. Let's go. Awesome. So you guys share a project. You are ready. But not multiple. What color should I go with? You get to go with the blue one. I heard he's really good. We got one more thing George forgot tonight. All right, dice. But we are set to go with the smelling salts. George, memory check. What's your social security number? Is there a spot I should be putting this off centered in my throat? I have mine off to the left a little bit. You can go to the right, though. Like, I am right-handed, so I feel the need to speak to the left. Checky check. Got it. Okay. Smelling salt. Can't wait to watch Escher win on 3v1 as well. Yeah, that's happening. Hopefully for the first game tonight, you can do 3v1 and I'll play one-handed and see if I'm warmed up enough. This game is really hard because it's all in multivolve. All right, here we go. Oh my god, you went like up your nose with that. Alright. Woo! I was saying Power George, it seemed like he did way more and reacted way less. I know! I even, yeah, Paul's smell blind is the thing. I was joking about the blue one, he is the worst one. Well, we did it. No, no, no, that's good. Okay, don't make it work. Chaotix is assuming it won't even be close. I think you're probably right. I think Escher pulled three to four hundred million on this game. I didn't get to the end. Was it on your first try, so you wouldn't know what it's like to play the game? No, my first two tries were one shot away. My second try was in the final mode. I just had to beat it and survive. So, no, I didn't do it on my first try, I'm afraid. I was hoping I would, but... Okay, so... This is the right thing. So, I'm thinking about battling in the future. Are you familiar with boxing and chess? Yeah. Yeah? Yes, I've heard about that before. I just found out about that, and I think that's amazing. So, the next time that we battle with you, Escher, I want to make you play chess. Okay, I'm not bad at chess. You're not bad at chess. I know how the pieces move. Perfect! Oh my god, this is amazing. But I don't know how to incorporate that into the points of the game. So you play a game, and then you play chess, and then you play a game, and you play chess. I have enough cameras, I feel like, to make that happen. Do you have a chess set? I have a chess set. But what I don't have is a timer. I obviously have to be able to use a timer. Just do it online. Well, and that's what I figured out today. I created an account on chess. Which one? There's two. Oh boy. It was not LeeChest. It was just Chess.com. There's some people, it's like people that like, it's like Eddie Ward. It's like blank versus blank. Oh, you choose one. Yeah, it's the games of New York. They're exactly the same. They're identical. But some people live and die by their own. Could you not start a... Wait, I'm not good at chess. Or are we all Lee and all? Oh no! Wait! Uh-oh. I don't understand. You guys are all Leonardo, huh? Guess we're rolling with it. No. Wait, is Leonardo first? Whatever. Well, it says player one, though. Did you get an extra ball? We're all player one? No. No, it's still me, I guess. Yeah, I think he maybe had an extra ball. No, it says ball two. Did I not? Oh, I wonder if he played the entire game. Weird. That seems off to me. Weird. I only hit the start button once, but it showed up everything. I feel like kicking the pinball machine and screaming, this is Sparta. I don't understand what's happening right now. I only hit the start button once, but... Chaotix is a... Hey, Drew. ...turning off in such a rush. A great reason why this game would make great in the long run. Wonderful game to learn. It's still there. Yep, yep. Blame the smelling balls. That's even great. Never. Also, I want to point out, higher peanuts saying, oh, great, Estrican would have hit ball and chess now. I have this, like, chronic fear of being bad at things, and all my friends have a chess phase, and I was really bad at chess, so I, like, watched a bunch of videos learning some stuff. Okay. Not that I was, like, I could play against my friends, but I never pursued it more past that, I guess. Okay. I took second at one of my French friends who's like a streamer, did like a chess tournament. Not what I want to do. I got second. Okay. I've never been a part of a chess tournament, but I like it. No one was, no, it was like a bunch of new players, so. All right. Do you happen to, is Z-Mac good at chess? Probably. Dude's in like eight AP classes. Okay, so yeah. Yeah. Who's good at chess? Yeah, he was like, we were at Expo, and we were both in Monium. We got back, and we went first, second. And he started thinking about his homework. I'm like, man, what class is it again? He's like, yeah, I have an EP test coming up. I was like, okay, man. Wait, wait, wait. Dye says, Esther, in a couple of years, come to Vegas with me. I have a few games. I want you to be afraid of losing. Yeah, exactly. I'm learning poker slowly. Yeah, I was thinking about getting into poker. Oh wow. The thing about poker is that I can't play. Because it's one of those things where it's... Nice, Tracy. Nice. See, that was weird, because the balls were launching to relock. Yeah, so it relocked. So if you're fast, you can actually short-plunge them. And you can play forever. Oh, okay. Well, it's cheating. A long opportunity. I never thought of that. Short plunging? Oh, yeah. You've got to be really fast. I mean, is that cheating? I don't know, actually. I don't know either. That's actually a great ruling. Dad, I know that you lurk in chat. You're probably there. Give me a ruling on this. Edwin's dad, is that cheating if you short plunge as it's trying to refill? I thought yes. I mean, that makes sense, but at the same time, you can short plunge any time you want. Yeah, totally cheating. I'm serious. I've mostly just managed chess for how much it's equated to genius in pop culture. It's not that amazing. Yeah, no, it's like, you know, a lot of the games all start the same, right? It's not like this, like if you're smart at it, you're naturally good. It's like anything, really. It's just that you should hit the button as fast as you can. Hit the button! Oh, what? He did that to you on purpose. I'm just throwing that out there. Yeah, you had an extra 37,000, man. What would you do without it? If you get to the end, you get a lot more. Stream Bard is in the house. Snivy tries. Welcome to the stream. Similar to Trap Ball Drink. Oh, so higher peanuts saying lane juggling is disallowed. Yeah, that's what I figured. Anything... Who is that targeting? You could argue this, right? It can target anyone but Ezra. Oh, this one's for MJ. Okay. Have you done smelling salts before? Once. Not on my own volition. Okay. You don't have to do this. No, no, no, not yet. You've got to do it when it's working. Right. Because it impacts your game abilities. So think of it as like, Dice, even though this is painful, he's doing it for you and for us. Because bodybuilders will do that before they hit. Exactly. I guess that's it. Like, you have to... Alright, put it in man. You did it. I think we didn't start it. You have to start four players. Which I figured because it like let me. Yeah. So that's a warm up game for you. Sure. Well wait a second. Great. I don't know, we chose 3v1. Yeah, but we have to press the start button several times. So here, hold the flippers together. I think I got it. Let's see. Oh yeah, yeah. Oh! There we go. I'm sorry. You got the salt, so you're up first. Anyone on the code, that is... I guess because we're only in free play, I understand why that is. We're paid quarters. How do I do it? You just put it up to your nose, and if you squeeze it, then you'll get a bigger whiff. 90 tries wants a topic for the first poem of the evening. Pinball. Oh, my gosh. Well, no, no, no. We often... Yeah, pinball's a pretty good one. Okay. What's a good turtle? Let's go with Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. I would love a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. That one's okay. It's red or yellow are the good ones. Red is... If you want to broaden that out, you can go Saturday morning cartoons. I'll go red. Yeah, I'll go red, personally. There you go. Snivy. Yo, you want four. Four different ones. Okay, Saturday morning cartoons. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Okay. It's fine. You're getting all those back. You just... You keep doing your thing. Let's go... smelling salt no I'm not smelling salt in particular let's go with performance enhancers and how about doctors train you watching it no I have not but I've heard really good thing I have to I have a team oh I do wants one from each of us okay okay so mine is TMNT okay what was yours is you want he's gonna do a poem and he wants four different themes for the poem. Okay. We'll say D&D. Okay. D&D for Paul. I'm going to say pinball to guarantee that pinball's involved. Escher's got pinball. Sharks. Okay. There we go. There we go. TMNT, pinball. What was yours? D&D. D&D and shark. Let's see. It's a good Sam Raimi movie. For me, it's C plus Marvel movie. Okay, dice. Dice. I've got it. I'm hungry. Damn, dude. Damn, damn, damn. Snivy, TMNT, D&D, pinball and sharks. And who requested which? Name, then topic. So George, TMNT, bumper nugget D&D, Escher, pinball, sharks, MJ. Sharks. That's the high ski do. High ski do, welcome. I guess I'll go second. All right. Oh, you get to pick a different turtle. It'd be funny if you weren't allowed to pick the same turtle. Like, we all had to pick one, and you guys could just dumb me with the blue one. You're about to be the first person in history to ever hit a 1-2-3 combo in succession. I really wanted to. No one's ever done it before. Most of the time, because the ramp rejected or a plethora of reasons. Darn it. What's that purple shot for? I don't remember that on the pro. I don't know. It's like a premium thing. It's like hang glider or something. Okay. Like, there's something with it, I remember. It wasn't worth anything. God, what I can't stand is that the start episode is perfectly based on my height and where I played. Like, I'm not Escher. Escher, you can probably see it. Mine's way worse than that, which is the 2x light. That one sucks, not being able to see. Okay, got it. That one, yeah. If you can see the 2X, it's a good thing. I can't believe George put initials on Donatello with that just being honest score when my turtle in my adolescence was named Donnie. No, no, no. I love Donatello. Donatello is most definitely my turtle. He's the best turtle. My close pass scores. I like Raph. I like Raphael because he's meta in the pinball machine. That's why. Raph is the jerk of the whole. I don't know anything about him. I just know that Steve gives me more points. No! Oh my God! Over all of the revamping of Turtles, I'm a Turtles super fan. And over all of the renditions that Nickelodeon did between that and Fox Kids over the years, Donatello's, or sorry, Raph's character has changed the most. I'll go Mikey. But... I have watched all the cartoons recently with my kid, and Racket's still a jerk even in the newer cartoons. Yeah, but in the movies he's better. I'm saying in the older cartoons he was better. He was an even bigger jerk. No. He was the angsty teenager in the OG movie. Yeah, but I feel like he, I feel like especially in the 1990 movie, he was the best character in that movie because he was like the only one who was like, I didn't ask for any of this. You know, like I was just a jerk. I'm just an average turtle who didn't care about becoming a ninja superpower thing. Yeah, exactly. No, with great power comes great responsibility. You're getting mad that one of the four teenagers is acting like a teenager. Yes, exactly. No, no, no. Raps does not have the ability. First of all, how long can you be a teenager, really? Shucks. And this is why Ezra is going to win. I'm just throwing that out there. Absolutely. My genes are running out, man. Joe Air, I have not played the TMNT RPG, but I would. I don't know how the dice mechanics work on it, though. Like, that is super important to me for whatever reason. By the way, hop yourselves to any drinks you want at the refrigerator. And if anything, if you could please drink the gluten-y drinks, I would really appreciate it. Yeah. Which one are the gluten-y ones? It's a far left, crazy-flavored mixed berry pie Berliner. Okay. But there's other flavors. So there's berry pie Berliner. There's strawberry cotton candy sour. These are all dessert beers. Yeah. And wait a second, wait a second. There's also Slimer Lacto Cooler. I'll do that one. Okay. All right. I'm going to have a pie beer, I guess. Yes. Berry pie Berliner. Okay. Asher, you can't have any. Sorry. Aw. He says your DPM is too high right now. Oh, no, wait. You're referring to us. Darn it. Come on. By the way, George, during our D&D session tonight, I jumped out a window again. You defenestrated. You were defenestrated. Or you defenestrated yourself. Defenestrate? I don't know what you're saying. The word defenestrate means to throw something out a window. Oh. The English language is amazing, by the way. Like, it's both frustrating to learn and also the coolest language ever because there is a word for everything. Well, no, you remember during... I do remember you jumping out the window. Yeah. And hurting yourself because you took, I think, 2d6 worth of damage because it was a 20-foot drop. Yeah, this was also a 20-foot drop. Okay. In my other campaign, I just leveled up yesterday and got Slow Fall, so now I can fall 20 feet and have nothing happen. And have nothing happen, okay. Well, this time I was a... I'm a cleric. Last time I was like a paper-thin ranger, so kind of a non-athletic ranger to boot. But, no, this time I was... I had a shield, so I tried to use that shield to break my ball. Really quick, really quick. Yeah, yeah. It would be awful if you brained all of these balls right now. Yeah, that would suck. Like those left outlanes, man, they're such a struggle. Thanks for the idea. Oh, no. I'm so disappointed in the game's way of treating you. Like, I'm genuinely upset here for you. Oh, there's a poem now. Ah, Snivy tried it. Back in the days when violence was cool, the turtletap-locked shredder could rule. A team of four fairly teens living their lives across fun scenes. Taunt by their master and raised by their teacher Fighting their foes and the weakly creature They were all quite fun and each unique Except don't listen to Mikey, he's a pizza freak I wish I had been a fan of the show But too many others I had to know Okay, I like it I'm getting the feeling that we're going to get four poems Yeah, I think it's four poems I was expecting all of those to be brought into one poem Right, yeah, yeah I was expecting a challenge I hope this super is 20 million. I don't like sour beers, and this is really good. Okay, I'm glad you like it. Yeah. Do you want to try this one? I do want to try this one. Try it. Okay. Is that because you have the 2X running? Yeah, I think so. It's really annoying. I actually kind of dropped it. Yeah, I like it. Oh, yeah. Well, no, no. If you're in a multiball. Yeah, in a multiball, but still. Oh, yeah. It's like the super jackpot shot. What am I going to do? Not shoot it? The first on it is Dunyon Reigns. I love it. I think I'm going to do it. You are first, sir. Drink can go right here. This is empty. Normally, I have a thing. You can also do it on the... There's an empty cup holder to your left. Oh, just to the left. There we go. I was about to say, normally, I have drink holders on all the pins, but when Paul was over to help me set this up, he spaced it. I don't know this game at all. How do I even light a mode? Right ramp, left ramp allows you to light a mode. No, this benefits all of us, right? Like Escher, don't listen to Escher. He's going to misdirect you I feel like at this point. There's right ramp, left ramp is how you light a mode. And then the center... In either order. The center is mode start, right? Mode start. Also that is your ball lock towards your pizza multiball. At the same time, when you see turtle power flashing, you have a multiball available on your right ramp. You can make it flash by hitting repeatedly the right ramp. Higher Peanut says, shoot the wamps. It's a light battle. True. Which Ellsworth is Unit Shirt referencing? Oh, they are a folk band from Denver that I did the mix for at one of the venues I work at. So I'm an audio engineer by trade. If only you were here earlier, we wouldn't have had so many audio issues, I feel like. Oh, yeah, probably not. But, yeah, I mix them. They're essentially a local band, but they're really good. I really like them. and they have merch available, so I bought a few. Okay. You are now in a multiball. Right. So while you're in this multiball, you want to hit jackpot shots, which are the ones that are currently lit. George is wrong. Okay. Please listen to Escher at this point, because Escher actually knew it. Yeah, you just hit shots until... I think it's a pizza. Anyway, the super jackpot's the upper inner loop, the frame shot. Okay. Well, you just shoot everything until it's lit, and then you shoot it, and then the super jackpot's lit under the corner. Okay. Notice Escher didn't say anything about the 2x. Yeah, see, that's like too much, though. No, you're absolutely right. Legitimately trying to then... Sorry, how do you light 2x? Yeah, you spell later twice. Okay. First one lights your training, second one lights the 2x. And then with April, isn't it outlane save, and then April hurry up? Oh, come on. Okay. Nope. Uh-oh. We have poem number two. This is yours, Paul. Paul, this one's yours. Okay. Dungeon... I can't even read. Dungeons and Dragons. A hell of a game. You gotta know the locals by name. So many systems that you can play. It's 5e or Pathfinder or a custom way. I'm partial to PF. It's the best for the casters. So many choices. There's no true masters. Don't be afraid to focus on healing. Go patch up the rogue once he's caught stealing. At the end of the day, it's all for fun. Laugh and cry at the end of the run. Well done. I need to get this over. I gotta get the ball. Is this where you're like 0 and 3 on your postpass thing? Yes, I'm gonna get it. I'm gonna figure it out. It's a slow postpass. Yeah? Mine is backhanding that left ramp. I uh, I've gotten it like three quarters of the way there. You should backhand the left ramp, I think. So, yeah, there is flipper fade on it. Normally. Yeah. You're so helpful. Thank you so much. Go for it. See? It works. There we go. Thank you. Thank you. Darn it. That wasn't even close. Oh, my. That was not like a death dip? No, that was a lassy. That was a lass. That's fine. Yeah, but you did a move, so. I'm calling Josh. Oh no! Oh no! Yeah, drop it back to me. It's a yellow card. Oh no. Alright, alright. Do we go into the multiball? We just go into the multiball, like right now. and just do the Escher thing where we just hit... Sorry, I have to spell layer to get into 2x. Twice. Twice. Yeah. And that's 2x playfield or 2x for the multiplayer? 2x playfield. Okay. Man, they really just jacked Twister's entire thing in this game. You ever play Twister before, George? I have played Twister a couple of times. The game's awesome. Love Twister. like you're talking about the game where you like the movie's pretty good as well oh the movie yeah the pinball machine not the okay not right hand not right hand green yeah okay because I was totally thinking right right hand green yeah I've always played Twister at Basil's house back when he used to have parties there. I don't think I've ever seen a Twister. They're not super common, but you're not missing out on much, I'm afraid. Darn it! It's a cool gimmick, but the gimmick gets old really fast. But, uh, eight-year-old Ezra would love that game. Sure. But eight-year-old Ezra also loves South Park, so... The game. The game. I wasn't allowed to watch it. Sure. Of course not. All right, hit your Krang. All right, I am hitting Krang. okay now you hit your super it's actually worth a lot more if you get oh are we in we're in turtle power now yeah it was really funny moving out here because in California there's not a South Park anywhere and they're all over this thing they're all over this thing yep Colorado that's a bummer yeah yeah we could do with less South Parks yeah yeah they're taking up room everywhere I play pinball I think they're having one I like South Parks when they're not running the ROM because in tournaments I will shoot Kenny, you know, 150 times a week. Oh, no. Darn it. Yeah, you just shoot Kenny and you bump over and you shoot Kenny and you bump over and you shoot Kenny and you bump over. All right, this one's for you, Escher. The poem. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Here, read it. Enjoy the pinball till all are known, even the table that those who are grown. From the classics like Peter or bombs like Shrek, the simple... I can't read it. I'm, like, actually blind. I need to get closer. From the bombs like Shrek, the simple like fish to the star of Shrek. Quarter for hours. Come on, dude. No rewards to earn except for fame to gain. Fame to gain. And if you're unlucky, you'll get caught when you tilt the banter location. to Dracks with Guilt. Don't be that guy. Keep it clean. You're both lawyers. You ain't green. It would be a lot better if I read it better. I'm tired and I can't read. Actually blind. Yeah. I was like reading it and I'm like, wow, I'm like, nah, I can't read this. So I'm not a super huge nine inch nail sand. I like that. Okay. I miss him. I'm not, overly familiar with their music, I'd like everything backpedal. This sounds so much like the Weird Al song that's supposed to be a 9 inch nail song. Sorry, Weird Al has the 9 inch nails? Yeah. Germs. It's called Germs. It's actually in the pinball machine. With three gun layers. Okay, okay. Yeah, you'll hear it when you give me a multiball. Oh boy. Before I had to do a double, I was like is this way in the Weird Al song? Squid's the Switch frenzy one. Dice, by the way, here's the deal. So I'm waiting for Janelle to tell me whether or not she wants to get a ticket because I can get row 12 at $600 a ticket right now for Nine Inch Nails. But I have to buy them in two packs. So I can't get a single at $600. Which means that if Janelle is not in, I need a buddy to go with me at $600 a ticket. Dice, are you in? If Janelle isn't in... Guess so many things worth so much right now. They did a surprise concert in my hometown to kick off their tour. They announced it a day before they played. Okay. And it sold out in ten minutes. The one show there is... I've watched four or five bands that I haven't seen that I've always wanted to see. And Nine Inch Nails is number one. Okay. I've seen Incubus four times, which is by far the band I just had to see. I heard they're amazing live. They sound exactly like they do on record. They interact with the audience. They do a whole bunch of custom stuff all the time. No pressure, but that right ramp is worth a lot. Hit that right ramp. Hit it. That's the right orbit. Right ramp. Right ramp. Right ramp. Right ramp. Here it is. There it is. It timed down a little bit, but it's still 1.5. Okay. You know what actually got me into Trent Reznor? So don't feel bad, I'm not an AM fan either. Was his soundtrack work on Social Network. That's where I was like, oh, it's so good. Look at the crows! I'm not familiar with crows. I've never seen the crows. What? Yeah. Dude, how old are you? I'll be 34 next Thursday. Yeah, you should have seen the crows. And it should have been like one of those life-altering movies for you. Yeah. You missed out. I was like weirdly, I wasn't that sheltered comparatively to like a lot of kids, but my parents were pretty strict about stuff like that. That was like hyper dark and like. No, no, I totally, totally understand that. I grew up around a lot of kids who weren't allowed to watch rated R movies. Right. Whereas I was brought to the movies to watch everything. Right. Yeah. So I wasn't allowed to watch anything rated R. Anything else though, they were pretty much okay. So, and then I hit like 15 or 16 and they stopped there. Okay. But at that point you had already missed the crow. Yeah. And the crow two was not good. Right. Yeah Yeah It hadn like I had missed the kind of zeitgeisty thing on it God good word Another great word Did that demonstrate zeitgeist Let see what other great words we can get into the stream this evening Trent Reznor also did the soundtrack for the original Quake. I didn't know that. Yeah? That's awesome. No, I think he's a genius. Like, I legit think he's, like, one of the most... Oh, no! That is cheating! I told you it's not. That's cheating! Oh, you cheated earlier. What? No, no, that is not cheating. I had it from sliding to the left to set up for a next game. Is it out? Oh, I tried to move it back. Uh-oh, wait, wait, who's the final person? Oh, me. That's you? Okay, MJ. Yeah, perfect. I messed up this time. I tried to slide it back. In the water reside the sharks. Here, rotate me really quick. I'm going to move it. You're going to open the coin door. I don't have that set up. In the water reside the sharks. In the world they leave their mark. some are cute some are scary others can bite if in water you tarry but don't listen to fear the death count is fake mongering for terror a shit hot take instead just believe that these beasts are nice treat with respect don't pay that price go to your zoo and pet the small admire their sharks have a ball yeah I am about to have a ball on this thing oh that was the other big recent um A note coming from Stern, by the way, is that Jaws might be the next game. Yep. I haven't heard that yet. Which I don't know if, I think I told you, I don't know if you're aware of this, Escher, but MJ did? Is it past tense now? No, our last episode comes out Friday. All right. MJ, yeah, MJ does the Jaws minute-by-minute podcast. Wait a second, wait a second. I'm going to need you to say that again. Because I feel... I'll let MJ say it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I am the co-host of a podcast called Let's Jaws for a Minute. And what we did is over 80 episodes, or 79 episodes, we watched one minute or thereabouts of Jaws and discussed it for an hour for the last year and a half. Wow. Yep. so how often were you putting out episodes? every Friday basically oh my god Tracy has heard about you you heard about me? from a who? probably me I don't know maybe not the other Sharknado fans was that you George who was talking about it or was that someone else completely Tracy I definitely I only found out about this last time it might have been me it might have been me yeah yeah yeah I think it was Paul okay also I meant that the sound was on your hand as well that's okay, this thing slides around like crazy yeah it does got it it was my first time slam firing poetry like that well good job because I wouldn't know where to start so anyway yeah so everyone, every pinball person basically texted me within a couple days after you did Paul was the first person to tell me that the next machine might be jogged. Yep. But I got like three or four tests like that same week. And I was like, yeah, guys, I know. I don't know another safer way to transfer this. Oh, it's a chat pass or you could chat. Listen to the younger skill fellas. Tracy, are there other podcasts you listen to? Because I promoted the show on other podcasts. I don't know if you may have listened to those. Unlucky. Alright, make it happen. I don't have to play ball three. Jeez. Well, it's collected, right? Yeah, we're still down two million. Oh, is that all? Yeah, exactly. Okay. And I also have turtle power lit. You have turtle power lit? I do. Okay. Gotcha. It's going to be an awful multiball, obviously, for Escher. It's specifically a man-at-bats. One more. You did it, Michelangelo. Yeah, we're not the first people to do a minute-by-minute show. The format started with Star Wars, the Star Wars Minute. They're probably the most popular minute-by-minute podcast, which I'm sure, because they started it before Disney bought Star Wars and announced the new sequel trilogy. So I feel like they were like, oh, no. When that happened. Turned into a 980 episode podcast. Yeah, way more than that. Yeah, I think they're in the middle of Rogue One, right? Wow. Yeah. Right, right. Right, right. Rogue One is coming up. What are you saying? 17 graders from Frisco Pinball. Oh, my God. They just ran in. Some people really don't like it. Other people. How many are there about Jaws? All right. Start the mode right up the middle. There's one other one that we know of about Jaws. It's cool. Whoa. Real Jaws, isn't it? You're fine. You're fine. And it hit a couple years before we did. Oh, no. No. Sorry. No. That's game one. Game one for the Bullets. That's game one. All right. We got the two out of three. Frisco, thank you so much for that raid and for bringing 17 beautiful people over. Hollywood Polo, my day was fantastic. Thank you so much for asking. we've got this we've got this on round two I'm positive we've got this lurking it's an act of watching a stream without chatting and that's cool, feel free to lurk like Frankenstein's monster Frisco, how was your stream? I remember correctly everyone, Frisco was streaming this evening virtual pinball and on top, yeah, you do that Yeah, it's going to give me a lot of... Yeah, yeah, my bad. I can't do anything that once. It's a player one. Oh, I'm player one. Frisco Pinball was... No, that's me. That's you guys. That's you guys. That's you collective. Wait, wait, wait. I can do this. I can do this. Frisco. Another cool interview with a great VTX creator. It was bored. Wait a second. I got this. Because it was a thing with the thing. And Frisco was actually doing something really cool tonight. and we have an events announcement. So, check this out. Right here. Oh, okay. Oh, okay, it did. Oh, oh. You guys all have to go for it. Oh, okay. We're going to order. Yeah, we are going to order. Tribute night with... Oh, wait, there's a lot of stuff happening here. Celebrating board. So, this was a special stream for Frisco Pinball tonight. If you have not followed Frisco Pinball, you absolutely should. And now it's you, George. for initials, initials time. Okay. That's so wild. Who are we doing? Hey, we're going to do Pinball Joe. I'm guessing that's Joe. Joe, you're getting in here. Thank you so much for that sub earlier, and thank you for joining us this evening. My hat's off to you. Frisco Pinball. I'm going to put that hat back on and take my actual hat. My hat's off to you. Thank you so much for that, Ray. Oh, I don't get one? For bringing 17 beautiful people. Not for you. Not for you. Okay. That's true. That's fine. I won one anyway. Oh, it's because I probably go into the regular high score board. Yeah, probably. Hold up. Somebody tried to death save and the back of the machine got moved. No one death saved. I didn't. You were the only one that death saved. Yeah. You seem like you're ish. Like I want us to be aligned well. Should I go more? No, you should go less. Pull it towards you. Pull it towards you a little bit, yeah. Good? A little bit more. A little bit more. Oh, my God. It's like back to where it was. There you go. Okay. Yeah. Ooh, more smelling salts. Two to four, though. What? All right. Snivy tries. Who are you hitting up with those smelling salts? Two of them, huh? Rats off to you. I will run to the restroom real quick. Good luck. Make sure that you are muted when you go to the restroom. I will make sure. Okay. It will turn orange as opposed to blue. Yep. Group whip. Scary. Hey, Taylor, welcome to the stream. All right, everyone, we've got this this time. We've got this. Yeah. Let's see what the hell these salts here. I'll go with the other nostril. Yeah, who are you going with? Oh, man. I keep you going back up. Maybe Escher should have one wrist ducted to its opposite angle. My eyes are watering. His dominant hand. No, he beat me left-handed, and he is very right-handed. So the perk of picking Wrath is that you don't have to hit the ramp, so you can just hit the van and start a mode. just once after that. Yep, just the very first time. How do I light turtle power? Hit the left... Oh my goodness. That is the opposite. Yeah. I'm more concerned about my eye watering. Alright, no, Snivy, it would be weird to do one sniff with three people. I feel like that... That gets really awkward. Yeah. Oh my god. So how do I like pizza? How do you like pizza? Pizza multiball. Oh, pizza multiball is just three shots in the van. Oh, okay. If you pick Donatello, Turtle Power multiball is lit right away. You kind of don't want that, though. There is a way, because you're gonna, you have to hit both ramps to light a mode. You want a mode and a multiball. there is a way around it by getting the inside of the left in lane. Okay. And that'll light a temporary... One, two, three? Yep. Okay. Put one, two, three, and if you hit the right ramp while that one, two, three thing is going, then it will not start turtle power. Please pick octopus for a topping. Okay. If I can choose a topping, I'm going that route. what is going on? I really want this left rant. There it is. What's your favorite kind of pizza, George? Breakfast bacon and... I can't do this with the things I... Breakfast bacon, pepperoni, chicken with barbecue sauce, and obviously a gluten-free bread and non-dairy cheese. All right. Okay. What's the most interesting pizza you've ever eaten? Octopus and gummy bears? I've had octopus many times, but only in sushi. I've never had it on pizza. Okay. Whoa, Frisco, drop in 100 bits for Paul for getting the Safecracker coin at TPS. Hey, thanks, buddy. Oh, hey, yeah. Did you actually get a coin? I got two of them. George has one. Nice. I know. George wants to devour all of his. you. I know there are ones. I do want all the animals. Octopi are too smart for me to feel comfortable eating. Joe Era, I'm actually in the same boat recently. That's a good point, yeah. Oh, wow. I was trying to bank it off the pizza target. You got thorned hard. Yeah. Wow. Thank you. You get cheats. So the perk to, I've told you basically all of them. Michelangelo's perk is you get a battle again lit on one of the outlanes. The especially nice thing about that is it gets you a lot closer to April. April, hurry up. If you spell April and hit the right ramp, then that's a boatload of points. Okay. And then Leonardo's perk is that he sucks, just like in the show. Okay. I haven't seen anybody do it, but there is a move that is commonly known as the lazy snitch. you can from the from the left yeah it is your turn um from the left flipper you can bank shot it off of this target into the van that target? yep okay the add time target? yep I don't know what I'm I'm gonna swap stuff I think okay let me go ahead and send my friends a letter George are you making a potion? what's going on over there? something a moth tail great agreed to a virgin cocktail with egg whites. Oh, okay. There you go. Nice. Surprise. Keep it off, Mike. I can hear the conversation that I think is intended to be private. Yeah, let's say. We muted, but I was like trying to explain to George that, you know, like I pointed at you guys like, oh, they probably could still hear. But I don't think he got that. What? If only someone didn't redeem so many smelling salts in a row. Right. Oh, did you smell the salt? Because that was apparently for you too. That sure is not doing something. Yeah, so you're not allowed to. Not allowed to, okay. no he is not allowed to do smelling salts as an adult i uh i disagree they are you either they are you wake people who are unconscious yeah they are unpleasant Yeah. Let me just say that. Yeah. Or for, like, super hardcore power lifters to, like, get an adrenaline rush before they... For a session? Yeah. Or before they do, like, a huge lift. Yeah. Yeah. And technically they are toxic. Technically. Yeah. I mean, nobody's ever died of it, but it is... It's been solenized. It is introducing toxins into your body. Huh. Nice. Alright, muting. Alright, big shot. That was a pretty big shot. He's got a bigger shot. Oh buddy. That was so close. That was so close. I'm running out of time. Oh, that sucks. Double drape. It's going to be double funny when it goes to the outline here. Oh, yeah. Oh, I did give it back to you, though. Another reason of why I hate this game is that exact bounce of the outline. But I think it's dying in response. Yeah, you know, you hear stories about, like, a lot of, like, weightlifters. Or, like, I know one of them was, like, before he did, like, his world record. He had to, like, imagine his, like, family dying. And then that was enough to get him to, like, lift more. I was like, damn, that's like a lot of effort. Yeah. That's more than I would go to. Yeah. I've heard like marathon hunters having to do that too. Like they think something is happening to their family. All right. That's your virgin egg white cocktail. All right. It smells funny. It shouldn't taste like eggs. It probably won't. I have no idea what I'm tasting. I'm trying to think of what the original thing was. That is sundrop pineapple juice. I can definitely taste the pineapple. That is sundrop pineapple juice, simple syrup, grenadine, and egg whites. Grenadine, that's where the red is coming from. Yeah, I would say it's mostly pineapple. Yeah, I'm going to pour you a second cup because I made enough for two. All right. And then I can make legitimate whiskey sours for other peeps. Virgin eggnog. I mean, eggnog is technically already virgin. Right. Oof. Your BBM there was not great. Yes, sir. No, no. My whole game's not great. It's all right. It's truly a one-ball game. Because you can just do it in one multiball. All right, we got this. All right, what do I need to do? I need to start a mode. it. We are shots away from a multiball. This is great. Oh my god, we're already at 1.837. Yeah, I'm dragging it down big time. Dude, I have 14,000 points. Yeah, but you also have only played one ball. Mine's a two-ball score. All right. Right ramp is obviously how we move the ball over to the other side. We're in a mode. I can post that. It's fine. I don't know what your problem is. Have you tried harder? You've got to do a really big one. You do a huge one. Yeah, boy, I crossed. Again. Again. I can post that. It's just fine. I don't know what your problem is. Yeah, your problem is that you haven't been playing pinball since you were three. Big Jerry started a massive lie campaign by selling virgin eggnog. I cannot with the shooter on. Hey, George, do the gooder, please. Gooder and up and stuff. I see you. Done. Done. I'm going to keep working on drinks over here. Pineapple juice. We're going to have to I think we have to do the good whiskey. We're going. We've got a lot more to go. We're going. You got it. Oh, you got it. Yep. You got it in the exact time, I'm pretty sure. 40 slices. How many pizzas is that? Whistle pig, piggyback? Depends. Yeah, it depends on how many pizzas. It's really weird. On average, a pizza is eight slices, right? Yeah, something like that. I had Avos. Five then, yeah. Abo's was ten. Which is really weird. It is weird. Like I don't know how they did it. Like I think they like manually cut each piece or something. Cause I've never, I was like taken aback. Manually cut each, well you can just do five slices if you got the rocker thing. Yeah. Cut one, now you have two pieces. Cut twice, now you have four. And you have six, then eight, then ten. Oh, yeah. That's probably how they did it then. It's just weird because it's usually like four, eight, or... Yeah, I can't back up that. I forgot. Zero slashes, flip one over, put it on top, and now it's a sandwich. There you go. I remember one day at school on pizza day, I got a pizza that was like... I bit into it, but the bottom of it was still connected. to the, um, like, one of the, like, cutter things. There was this giant piece of metal on the bottom. Oh, no. I ruined my pizza day. I remember. I was in fourth grade. Like, are you saying, like, metal shavings were in the pizza? No, it was, like, the thing that they cooked it on was still down there. Oh, okay. But, like, it was in fourth, like, there was just one piece, so I didn't notice or something. I don't remember. I remember biting into it and not enjoying my, what I got. Yeah, I was about to. You did better than your last ball by a lot, though. Yeah. Yeah, I did. Hooray. Me has got to catch up. I was flailing a lot. I had a lot of really good saves, but I was making nothing happen on the play field. Just fighting the game. I know a lot of people, including Escher, is going to disagree with this, but I'm playing this in a tournament. I usually go Donatello. I don't hate Donatello on tournaments. What's that? I don't hate it in tournament at all. I'm down to always guarantee myself an out. Yeah, the majority of the points are in multiball, right? Yeah, and if you guarantee that, you get the hard one out of the way. Yeah, I thought I picked against Dalmat Expo, actually. Are you muted? Are you muted? Are you muted? Okay. I'd say it's picking up something. All right, big shot. With Donnie, you can one, two, three to get... Yeah, yeah, we were just saying that earlier. It's not... A lot easier said than done, though. Yeah. Because you can't even chat that, that shot. No, it just... So, one of the challenges, some secret knowledge. So, when they were doing the heads-up challenge for this, They actually had a much longer list of challenges that we had to do. Oh, okay. I don't know if you ever watched the... Yeah, I have. They did the whole video and everything. I don't know if you ever watched that. Didn't Elwynn play this? Yeah, Elwynn lost to Smoke. Yeah, I remember he did not play like Keith Elwin. Not how I would expect Keith Elwin to play. Two other things about that. Keith did not really want to play. No. He was kind of, I wouldn't say forced, but deeply incentivized to play. There you are, sir. And that was an egg white whiskey sour. He had never touched the game before. With grenadine in it? Right. With grenadine in it, yeah. Like ever. And he had time to practice, but chose not to. Kind of thing. I've never had a grenadine whiskey sour before. What are we on here? This is a grenadine and egg white whiskey sour. Oh, okay. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Yeah. Captain Zanzibar, welcome to the stream. I'm no longer muted. Oh, that's... Oh, no. That doesn't taste like there's alcohol in it, which is... Which is very scary, right? Yeah. Yeah. You can't taste the alcohol at all. I see you do. Taylor, cheers everyone watching. Cheers. Cheers. Thanks for having me, George. Thanks for coming over. Yeah. Yeah. This is almost the pink ooze. From Ghostbusters 2 or from... From Turtles. Oh, okay. Now, the ooze is green. It is green in the movie, but I feel like... The color palette on this game needs some pink ooze, though. Yeah, green is... There's already a lot of green. Oh, is it pink in the game? It's pink in this game, but yeah, on the show, in the movie, it's all green. Yeah. right even at the bottom of the field underneath the flipping. Somebody just did something. Who was that? I farted. That was flooding hard. Thank you so much for that, Paulo. Paulo. T-G-R exclamation or I? I can't tell. Thank God. Road I. Rhode Island. Thank God, Rhode Island. I skewed you. Drop in colored blueberry. That did not... That didn't do anything for us. Try spooky blue. It's mutagen green. It's, like, good enough. All right, let's see if I can break 350,000. You got this. I like your chances. I do, too. I'm leaving you, Paul. There you go. You already got ten times that. Sweet. Or no, three hundred. I thought you said thirty-five thousand. You need... Let's see. If you do this, it'll be... You'll be way over it. It's a hard shot, though. The Orbitzons game don't feel great. They don't. Not even a little bit. Actually, no. There's not many shots on this game that feel great. Nope. This game isn't great. You're a fan? I super like this game. He's biased. I am super biased just because of the theme, though. I mean, I grew up with Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. That's my one fear about Jaws. If they do a bad Jaws machine, I don't know. Let's see. So if Jaws is next, which designer? because Borg It went Borg Okay, so we got Rush is what? Godzilla Borg was Rush So definitely it's not Keith Ellison's turn Nope It's not Borg It's the other guy who did Shadow Brian Eddy? Yeah What are the new Brian Eddy games? Because I know he did Stranger Things He did Mandalorian Man, that's not a great Nope Sure isn't Mando's the shot to our game. I like Mando! I want to know what you view on Mando after the first mode multiball thing. Oh, you do it again. And then after you do it, you do it again. I really like a lot of Rimey and Gold's stuff. But, uh, changing things... And I don't think the... There's a lot of issues with Mando that I don't think it was the playfield design. Like, the playfield design's fine. Like, the right ramp is fun. The left ramp is cool. Center top's a cool idea with a hanging target. But, uh... So, like, a lot of his old games are a big fan of. Like, Shadow's one of my favorite games of all time. Dr. Curly Tech thinks that this game could ultimately be improved with the rules update. Yes. Okay. This is my results. Alright. Um, what was I gonna say? Oh, could it be Jack Andrews' first game? Because he's working on one of them, hey? Is he? Oh! Oh, I didn't think about JD. He just released Jurassic Park, though. Yeah. A Nintendo rainy. I did hear he's working on a Cornerstone, but I think it's a little too soon. Yeah, for sure. For Jack's Cornerstone game to come out. I mean, I think I'm not alone here. I really hope it's another L one. I also hope it's another L one. I also, it's weird because, like, I want a Jaws machine, but I don't know what I want in it. The root isn't working, George. So the... No, it's not. I gotta fix it. It got disconnected. The general consensus about what people do want in a Jaws game is they want you to be the shark. I want to be the shark in Jaws. Absolutely. I see you asking, isn't Venom next? That's what George told me but I haven't heard anything about Venom. I have heard that Venom is next. I don't go on. I heard that a long, long time ago. It's just. Yeah? Could it be a Gomez game? It could be a Gomez. But Gomez, what was his last game? Dead. Pool? Yeah. I thought his thing is that he looks over games. Yeah, he's more of a management position at this point. But he can design games really friggin' well. So when he gets the opportunity. This is a disclaimer to everyone watching. I am a student employee, but I don't know anything. I'm not, I don't, I have not been told anything. I have no inside information. So, my opinion does not matter more than anyone else's. That's a lot of gummi rice, man. You don't have to do the MCU actor thing. Oh my God, I want to say it, but I can't. Yeah, I don't know anything. I haven't been told anything. So, but, yeah. So I didn't hear Venom at all, but again, I'm not on Pinside ever. Yeah. I just know this from whatever pinball podcast I listen to. Oh, yeah. Where they get their information, I have no idea, but the... I mean, the leaks are usually right, so... Yeah, the leaks are almost always right. Well, yeah, the information I heard and then double-checked on JAWS is that Universal updated their trademark information to include pinball machines. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's probably a good giveaway then. Yep. All right, so I've got two extra balls here. Escher, the Tom Holland of pinball. I haven't leaked anything yet. Isn't he known for leaking? He is definitely known for leaking. Not yet. I'm going to put you in the house. so here's my problem with being the shark in a Jaws pinball movie okay I'm sure you have uh very detailed here's the thing you're gonna follow the movie right and so the shark kills the shark over the course of the two hour movie has six victims yeah if you include the potluck five if you don't um so that's a Dodge Iceberg by the way So I just don't see how you could get a pinball machine without embellishing a lot. It could do just the Jaws theme, not the specific movie. No one wants Jaws 2, 3, or the Revenge of the Pinball Machines. Nobody wants it. Are you kidding me? That's where the most fun is at. Yeah, then if you look at it from history, right, it's like, okay, what other universal games are there? Creature. Creature. Monster Bash. Monster Bash. Mary Shelley's Frankenstein yeah Drank Circus Dracula what studio did Jurassic Park that is also universal yeah Jurassic Park and what do all those games share in common very little connection to the theme right yeah so I bet they don't get a lot of things yeah that's like my because like Jurassic Park they didn't Keith did a wonderful job having yeah but the only thing they got was like Ned's yeah it'll be the world of Jaws right yeah that's what I assume alright let's try not to stop here for a second right I mean they can kind of do whatever they want um I'm trying to think I feel like Jaws people don't really want stuff from the movie though like I don't yeah I don't know so I'm curious what they do yeah it'll be interesting to see if it happens even if it's not their nest it's gotta be happening people have been are you gonna get one no it's your green thing I know you just gotta hope it's really bad so then they resell for still only a grand more instead of seven grand more. Yeah. Use that podcast money, dude. Oh, yeah. We're going to invest, yeah. With our giant minute-by-minute podcast audience. You're starting people tipping over the movie. Exactly. What's that? Ignore everything. Just a shark eating people and tipping over boats. So, Sure. I mean, hey, Arena Web Dev, Dave, how are you doing? It has been too long Welcome to the stream Hey Shwarmuta What a great name That was awesome Welcome as well Thank you so much that I followed My hat off to you Or just fish tails. Just remake fish tails. Just remake fish tails. Yeah. You just put the orca in the middle instead of just whatever generic fishing boat. There you go. Alright, we've got our fourth thingy done. Rock the Cray. Do you see what the mode on Beatles now? What's that? The new Beatles update. There is a code update on Beatles? I don't know if it's like out completely, but it's running at Lions. Okay. Which is, so you can play classic mode, or you can literally just play Sea Witch. Cool. Very cool. there's also a challenge mode but I haven't seen or heard anything about it but in Lions you can just play a sea witch yes but it's funny because there's already a sea witch there so why bother alright we got Mikey closing that gap for us George way to go I want to jog the Lost Adventures featuring Free Willy sure the Lost Adventures I like that Yeah, young Jaws. Isn't that what everybody wanted was that moment in Free Willy where Jesse, I think his name was, runs out on the rocks and then Jaws comes out and just eats him. Jaws jumps over the rocks. You could do Jaws the Lost Adventurer's feet, Free Willy feet, Echo the Dolphin. George didn't like that one. I think George is in his head on his game. No, I really don't like Echo the Dolphin. Echo the Dolphin sucks. It's a bad game. The fact that you didn't know what you needed to do to initiate the game, which was to jump out of the water so high that you broke the world, I'm sorry, that's not a good game right there. It's very funny that George had extremely strong feelings about Echo the Dolphin. Sure. I never played that game because I took one look at it and knew that it sucked. It was like E.T. for Atari. You just know. Sure. It's not my generation, I'm afraid. One more of these Bebop and Rocks things. 30-somethings. The dolphins had to leave Earth. How could you not jump super high? Yeah, that feels like it'd be something you'd be super into, George. Yeah. Anyway, George, don't let this... Oh, you're in one, two, three. It's blocking the team, right? Oh, my God. Escher, that's... You are so helpful. Thank you so much. So, dolphins jumping so high that they break the game. Doesn't that sound like something from a book you like so much? What? What? Don't they do that in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy? Where they... The dolphins jump so high they break the game. They don't break the game. They leave the planet. That's what I said. They break the game. Oh, crap. Get up there! Darn you. Your BPM is not great. You've been playing for like 10 minutes. Yeah, the only... I have the PSP. Why did they give me an additional 17 seconds? Yeah, you were at zero seconds, and then you hit a shot, so it added 15 seconds. There you go. You just finished it. Now you just have to not miss the left ramp. You're the first person ever to do that, dude. Left ramp. Left ramp. Left ramp. Thank you, Escher. But yeah, during the heads up, one of them was the one, two, three combo. Okay. And nobody did it? Well, that was the reason they dropped it. I was really good at it because I practiced it a bunch. Okay. Which is I would do a slide save when I dropped it out of the training. I would take two dangers and it would go into the one, two, three. Oh, okay. And then if it Oh, you just had to start it or did you have to finish it? You had to finish it. And then I would just flail or just like play and hope for the best. Yeah. And if I did it then I would just take the danger and I'd go again. Like, and just tilt and just try again. But I'm pretty sure Oh, because you can restart on this, right? Yeah. Gotcha. And I think so many people DNF'd on it that they just threw it out. And And it's probably for good. But I was the only one that did good on all three of my attempts. Because how that works from the behind the scenes is that they give you a list of like eight things. And you can practice as much as you want. And you show up and you do those eight things three times. And then they will randomly choose from those three during the challenges. Get up there! What? Where? This was, so it was online. Mostly, but I think it's now in Chicago. Okay. Which is the Heads Up Challenge. Stern Heads Up Challenge. Yeah, it's fine, it's fine. As long as PPM is higher than his DPM, then he is making progress. Don't pick on George, Escher. Thank you, Ice Ski-Doo. He's getting there. He closed the gap. Arita Web Dev, Escher, when are you going to program a game? That's a good question. Yeah, not anytime soon. I'm not good at programming. Sitting still is not my forte. I sit here with my leg bound, thinking about what I'm going to do on ball three. Would you be more interested in designing a layout? If I may design the layout, I'd do the rules as well. Okay. There's a reason Keith's games are so good. Right. And it's because the left half of the brain isn't fighting the right half of the brain. Yeah. I forget. There's a quote from a couple, or like a designer, or from Keith, I think. is like, when you have full power over the game, you can make it kind of whatever you want. Yeah. Especially for, like, Godzilla, I'm pretty sure he had, like, complete, like, the brain did not care what he did. He had complete freedom. And you can tell. It's up to you, Iconos. It's up to me. Iconos up. It's up to me. I'm sorry. It's up to MJ. It is up to you. Cheers. You got this. I ate it on this game. Look at that. I got us a million over. Arena Web Devs updated their question Escher, when are you going to provide input on programming a game? Currently. Currently, yeah. Are we in a web dev? Yeah, he's working. I am a consultant, right? A, what's it called? Intern for turn. Okay. Intern for turn. I play the game and I tell them if something's wrong. That's it. Are you allowed to talk about what games you've had input on? I think so. Which is, I mean, Led Zeppelin was the first one. So if you guys ever wondered why the multiplier rule got progressively harder and harder to exploit as the game went on, someone at home got to a thousand X play field too many times. A thousand X? Yeah, I got to it once. I haven't put out enough time on Zeppelin. So in tournament install, that's where Raymond and I basically, on the car ride to District 82 we brainstormed how to fix it because the multipliers are pretty broken on that game. We came up with some really well, I mean, not fun ideas I'll tell you that much. Colin MacAlpine was not super excited about the change to the multiplier rule which is you just can't build it during multiball which I think makes it very fair. It's just really hard to do. So I played a lot of Led Zeppelin, and I'm on the rocks now. Which I can't say anything about, but that's the other game I'm on. Okay. Love that Stern is reaching out to you for input on that. Oh, good multi-balling, Jay. It's just Terry, you're just adding to the lead. Yeah. Doesn't matter what you do. No, no, no. Big lead, big lead. That's what we need right now. Big lead two, that's what we need. Thank you. I don't even know where I'm at right now. I haven't played in so long. It's been actually like 20 minutes. Yeah, you've cooled off. And that's why we keep the PPL real low. Oh, yeah. I don't actually have any multiballs left. Uh-oh. You need 2 million to win. What do you need to win? This could be really tough here. Oh, yeah? Like you have to hit shots and not... Just use a couple of April Harios. Oh, left outline. That's where my save is actually. Oh no. I missed right outline. There it is. Yep. Oops. Did I get my skill shot? Not quite. Not close. Okay. In my episode. Aw, isn't this the hard one? This is the hard one, right? No, this is the easy one. Yeah, this is the easy one. What could possibly go wrong, right? Yeah. Right outline. Uh-oh. You have to play pinball in order to win at pinball itself. You can use my dad's quote, which is... There is no winning at pinball? No, to win at pinball is to lose at life. Oh. Sure. That's dark. That is really dark. Yeah, that's a lot. A lot to unpack there. Escher's dad, that is really dark. Oh, no. No. Oh, oh. Oh. What just happened? I don't know. The ball's still in place, though. That is most definitely the TV. You just kicked the game. What was that? What was that? That was a win for us. That's what that was. No, where's the TV? Where's the TV? It's right here. There's a TV in chat. You are a TV. I am a TV. You are a TV. Not in this house, you're not. There's no TV. Yeah, you're in a called-job chart. Oh my God. Oh my god, where is somebody high up in the organization to confirm that death saving is not legal, never legal, ever! Alright, start a poll in chat. Alright, can you start a poll? Start a poll. Let's hear the chat vote. Hire peanuts if nothing happens, play as it lies. Play as it lies! That's TD. Play as it lies. Location pinball. TD rules, no foul Ah! We would have won Yeah Hey High five! I'll take it I'll take it What a Yes! To winning To winning Tighten the tilt if you don't want a death save What's the tilt at right now? It's actually pretty tilty It is It feels very tilty It does I actually can't see it Let's see. What's a good final game that we can do? Is there a... We could do... We can just play that again. We're 1-1 at this point, right? It is 12 right now. Oh, my God. It's midnight? It's midnight? Yeah. There's also the... What is it? The... Expert mode? Half-shell challenge? Oh, yeah. We could do half-shell challenge. Okay. Hey, three-player team, player one. This is huge. I was thinking we could do... Now it's A. I'll be A. You're A. A. Player two, enter your initials. That is what Escher called me when I kicked the game. A. Toastghost followed. Button hard. Frisco pinball. Frisco, what are your initials? I'm guessing it's A. I barely tapped it. Yeah. I'll say up and down, never really. Something. Frisco, if you're still on, what are your initials? All I know is your first name. So I don't know even what the last one would be. We could go with, like, FCO. Let's go FCO. You want to do, like, Split Flipper? Oh, we could do that. That sounds more interesting. Sure, yeah, fine. Let's do that. Okay. We can do Split Flipper. And player three. But you have to have the left flipper. Oh, cool. We want to do stall ball? We could do stall ball. Yeah, Dave just suggested stall ball. This game is... Okay, we need a... So, are we only doing locks on the truck, or are we doing every truck shot? Any truck shot or no? Any truck shot. Yeah, I think any because it does stop it for long enough to switch out a player. All right, I'll go first Okay, but the reason he's asking is because some of these stalls are so easy You're gonna have to go two players. I think the very no, you just have to go on. Yeah, it's just there's four of us There's one person history balls. Okay. Yep, that makes sense. There would be one survivor Are we in later as well I assume yep layer sounds good You're going to have to be fast because it goes straight through. Yep. So I'll go second. Okay. Well, I would say if the post is up on layer. Wait, but what if it drains on the way out? There is a ball save. You got a ball save. Okay. I don't even know where you're at right now. Me neither, man. And your battle again, your ball save does not count. Yeah. If you drain and you have ball save, you're still alive. Yeah? Yeah. If you drain and you have ball save. Yeah, so if you get the battle again, that doesn't count. That's why I picked that character. Keeps doing a free life. Right. You could hit the button if you're feeling like it. Oh, no. I'm out. Immediately with the button. Is this mine? No, that's mine. Oh, wait, no. No, it's false. Which one? Hey, I put one over there. I didn't think about it. You have a backup, by the way. We never decided the most important part of stall ball. Yeah? Exit left? Oh, always exit left. Yeah, it's always left. Okay. I exited right, so not only did I fail, but I exited right. Well, you're out, though, so you exited right. Yeah, I can exit whatever direction I want. I'm dedicated to chat at this point. But, no, it's, yeah, that is, when you're playing stall ball at home, decide which way you're exiting. Truly, that's very important. Hey, Jedi Gil, welcome to the stream. You gotta do a critical hit stream sometime. I would love to do a critical hit stream. Would you like me to bring some cards for you? Yes! I need the cards. I don't have the cards. It did not stick. You are eliminated. What? It did not stick. It went straight through. I heard that every... George said that every truck shot. Every truck shot. It went right through. Every truck shot. He ruled no stall. No stall. That was definitely no stall. We determined beforehand, and I asked you about it. You said every truck shot is a stall. It was a missed truck shot. Yep, it did not stall. But it went through the truck. Yep. Yeah, but did you stop in the truck? Every truck shot? No. That's what I heard was every truck shot. You didn't say every stalled truck shot. You didn't either. There it is. I didn't hear it. No, no, but you didn't stall. See? See? I think stall ball is flawed on this one. Yeah. No, it's unfortunate that when there's a ball already. So you're saying that the game doesn't work correctly, George. Yeah, if there's a ball in there, it actually dumps it. It kicks out the other ball like some significant percentage of the time. I didn't specify, though. I heard every truck shot, which that counts as a truck shot. But it didn't stall. It didn't stall. That wasn't specified. The name of the game. Don't hit the player, hit the game. All those. You just got to hit that shot. Yeah, that's been... The other thing you can hit is the lair. There it is. It did not stall. That didn't stall either! It didn't stall! It didn't stall! What are we doing here? We're going back to Europe. No, it is fine. It stops for long enough in the lair for us to stall. I'd say it stops long enough in the truck. There it is! There it is! Go, go, go! Now you're in a multiball. Can I just jump this because we have an extra ball? Oh, wait, no, we don't. Never mind. I can't. Can I stall during multiball or no? Yeah, right? Oh, I see what you're saying. Yes. Yes. There it is. What's your ruling on dangers during stall ball? They're cool. I mean, if you're actually in a real tournament, you said it's zero dangers before. Okay. Because that's the general competitive move. Two people agreeing with Paul. We have one person saying it doesn't, I guess at this point it's already too late. I'm out, guys. Well, I'm not going to confuse MJ here. Thank you. Oh! Hey, Bill from Memphis, welcome to the stream. Asher, big winner. High five. Yeah! Yeah. Are we doing one more then? I was pretty short. One more skull ball? Yeah, we can do that. Yeah, I'll go first. Yeah, you kick it off. Paul wins by default. Paul wins by default. Ah, nice, nice. Plus one, plus one. I'm number two. Yeah, we probably didn't even specify that. That's all right, George. You'll get one this time. I got it. Done. I went extra. Damn it! Automatic disqualification. Wait, wait. You get one mistake, though, right? It's like Jeopardy. Man, that would have been so funny. It's a bummer. I don't know where I'm right from left. Hey, Hollywood Polo, give a huge GG to Paul. I think it's debatable whether a truck through counts as a stall, but I definitely agree it was discussed and agreed upon by all players to second place entry. Andy, you didn't give your stall in the form of a question. That's so hard. You're getting a lot of points right now. Sure. Does that count? I don't think so. So what do you mean? A layer shot right now? Anything. The truck also stops it still. No! Yeah, we were both ready. So, there it is, there it is. Nice catch. Remember left, George. Left. Got it, got it. We're good, we're good. Yeah That's great. I'm not lit for anything so maybe yeah, I drove this fine. We can get George to try a little more It's fine. It's fine. Does this died ramp count if it stops in here, okay? No it is go straight through right now Yeah, yeah I didn't know how to do that now that we don't have launch you have to that's such an evil laugh yeah you don't you have to either hit layer or lighter mode it's the only way you can get it to stop also starting turtle power multiball will be good because it does stop the ball okay here's the question did George exiting right on the last game count as his one free warning yes that was a free warning he had two free warnings yeah you do okay good pinball rules right you get two warnings and then okay we got it back You got the freebie. Ninja, ninja. That was just a really slow ramp. Does that count? Right? That was a very slow loop. You bounced it on the plastic. Does it count? You're about to start a multiball, which will be a stall, by the way, on that right ramp. Yes, it will. So don't miss. Hey, don't miss. Oh, no. You missed. Oh! You can backhand it. Or you can hit the flashing white arrow. That one? That's so hard to hit for me, though. Yeah, I got it. You just center it. Hey, speaking about the crow, this is the song. I don't know what the crow is. I've heard of the name if you you probably heard the name from Dwight off of The Office he talks about it all the time does he? kinda really? yeah I watched two seasons of The Office The Crow is one of the greatest films of all not me not my fellow usher it's long enough of a stall for you guys to figure it out I forgot I played like four seconds this entire game. I've been money on my shots. Bye, Paul. Bye, Paul. He's just testing the range on the microphones. When is Escher not money on his shots? A lot of time. Not every time. They're ready. I don't know if that counts. I think it does. I think it does. I think it does. We're gonna go with it does. Yeah, it definitely does. Yep. I went to the left! I went to the left! I did the thing! I did the thing! Yeah, that counts. Hey, it made the noise. Okay, there you go. Yeah, I heard the noise. Aw, you went to the right. You went to the right. Get out of the way, George. No, no, no. I got two. I got two. You said it. You got one in the first game and blocked it. You blocked it from being in the first game. You totally blocked me. No! By going to the right. He went to the right and blocked him from playing. Chad, we're going to need. Oh, no, they're totally on my side. George is so happy he followed directions that he didn't. That was enough. George is eliminated. George is eliminated. I'm down for eliminating George on this one. I should be eliminated. There's no question. TV rules, DQ. DQ. You just had to go to the left and we would have been fine, George. Every time, by the way, that I have done well in any one of these, I always fail by going to the wrong direction. Yeah? Yeah. Is that like a theme? I'm just going to get creative I can't do it Dave I cannot do it see look you see what I did there George I stepped my left foot back and then I walked the best part is there's like nowhere you can I guess you can what was that that yeah it doesn't count I don't know it's hard with the truck because sometimes it's called and other times it doesn't. I put you in a really bad spot. Can I just have to turn this out? You got this. Yeah, if you hit the layer, it's good. Okay. Nice save. Thank you. All right. Freaking spinner, man. I heard you had a real Zoolander moment. I can't turn left. I'm not an ambi-turner. All the heavy duty. It's the biggest drama, man. That counts! That counts! Nope, not anymore. No, no delay. Oh my god, you smell like a cigarette. Sorry. Sorry. It's okay. I just want Chad to be able to understand what's happening here and really follow along. I'll stand over here. and the loser's you had it you had it it looks solid you gotta close the flipper yeah you should trap it up just getting it stuck in the later count like where you get the ball to pin it against the wall sure yeah let's count that yeah let's count that and you've been playing this training for like a minute and a half yeah Taylor agrees you should quit smoking oh I should yep Oh. All right, you're back to 20 seconds on the timer. Great. But we all do things we shouldn't do. That is very true. Like exiting right. Yeah. Indescribable. Really? That is the best you can go? You can go out? I'm so mad. I locked you into the... I mean, if you keep doing it, it's going to be just as dangerous for your health, George. Escher wonderful job high five again good job dude woohoo alright thank you so much everyone it is after midnight it's quarter after let's go find someone to send all of this uh raid slash just general love off to who's streaming right now all streams and that laser yeah all streams and hey Walt is online no way he was online earlier this afternoon is he live yeah Who is he streaming with? Does he have his own raid? No, he plays virtual... Pinball FX. Oh, okay. Yeah. So let's go raid Walt. And you guys, have a great night. Thank you so much for hanging out. We'll be back on Thursday on the Pinball Network. Not sure what we're going to be playing. My guess is we'll be playing Rush. Love Rush. What? Love Rush. Love Rush, yes. Escher loves Rush. It's a very fun game, and I'm sure that you are totally interested in playing just more and more of it all the time. Yeah, all the time. All the time. Also, who did we have with us tonight? We had Bumper Nugget. You can find Bumper Nugget at twitch.tv slash Bumper Nugget. Streams, what's... I haven't streamed in so long, dude. It hasn't been long. But go ahead and follow Paul, a.k.a. Extra Paul, a.k.a. Bumper Nugget, often and all the time. plan, like, he's going to start streaming again. In addition, Escher, you are on Twitter and Twitch as Steve O. Pub. Is that correct? In fact, that's your beautiful logo. Well, I'm wearing my shirt that I'm named after. Okay, there we go. Not the jackass guy. This shirt. Okay, not that Steve O. Okay, got it. But it is Steve O. Pub, so make sure to follow there as well. And lastly, MJ, first time on the stream. MJ, you have a podcast. about Jaws. Tell us about that podcast. Yeah, so the podcast is called Let's Jaws for a Minute. It is a minute-by-minute breakdown of the film Jaws. Our last episode comes out this Friday, but that is not the end of the podcast. So, yeah, we watch one minute of the movie and then talk about it for roughly an hour. And what was the name of the podcast again? Let's Jaws for a Minute. Okay. If you follow me on Twitter, I'm at MJSmith891, like 891. and you can find me there that's where I do most of my social media also I will start streaming June 20th of this year what? yep so also twitch.tv slash mjsmith891 it's a very specific date that's also not that close sure you haven't planned it is so it's the it's the 40 like 8th anniversary of the release of Jaws and we're going to do a 12 hour charity stream to raise money for shark conservation. And we'll be playing shark-themed games all day, so we're going to play Manhunter, or Maneater is what it's called. We're going to play Maneater, which is just Grand Theft Auto, but a shark. We're going to play some Pinball FX3, Jaws Table. And then we're going to play on Tabletop Simulator the Jaws board game. And Stern Jaws. What's the... We did a game a while ago, I remember seeing a lot of people playing it, where there's like a four-player game, there's three people that are like divers and one person's a shark. It's like someone in chat might know. It came out a while ago. But I remember seeing some streamers playing it. It's a cult. It's like something from the depths maybe. Okay. I don't know. That sounds cool. Is it like the Friday the 13th game or like 3D? Yeah. It's like a Dead by Daylight. Yeah. Okay. Dave from Reno Pinball says that the Jaws board game is super fun. It is very fun. I played it once in person, so we'll be playing it virtually. Taylor reminding everyone to wear neat shoes for the next Bumper Nugget game. These are dead at this point. That's disappointing. There we go. You can see. All right. You guys, thank you again so much. Thanks for hanging out. Let's go raid Walt from Walt Wood Pinball. We'll see you guys in a bit. Thanks. 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