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Pinball Oz Wide - Episode 9 : The Wait is Over

Pinball Oz Wide·podcast_episode·56m 45s·analyzed·Oct 30, 2025
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TL;DR

Personal updates, market pricing analysis, and casual pinball gaming from Australian collectors.

Summary

Jared and Matt from Pinball Oz Wide podcast discuss their busy six weeks of personal activities, including Matt's 40th birthday surprise (a custom neon 'Matt Cave' sign), a Carolina Reaper chili incident, a mini-tournament among friends, and updates on Matt's upcoming large shed build. They cover recent social gatherings at George's house (Melbourne Pinball Expo organizer) including Alice machine unboxing and streaming attempts, discuss games of the month, share pinball pricing observations showing market stabilization around $11,000-$15,000 for various editions, and highlight notable sales including a Bally Strikes and Spares for $2,700.

Key Claims

  • Limited Edition pinball machines are now sitting around $15,000-$15,500 consistently

    high confidence · Jared and Matt discussing current market prices observed in their region; multiple specific examples cited

  • Premium Edition Stern Sam machines are sitting at $11,000-$12,000

    high confidence · Matt stating 'the Sam Stern Premium Edition are sitting at about $11,000, so $11,000 to $12,000'

  • Jersey Jack Pinball machines have fallen dramatically in secondary market value compared to initial launch pricing

    medium confidence · Discussion of Hobbit at 13-14k (people asking 18-20), Dialed In around 9-11k, and Willy Wonka at 11k

  • The pinball market has 'leveled out' and prices have found a stable price point

    medium confidence · Matt's observation: 'I think the market is leveled out. I think it's now sitting at its level.'

  • Buyers are negotiating significantly below asking prices in behind-the-scenes transactions

    medium confidence · Discussion of how advertised prices don't reflect actual selling prices; neither host has ever paid asking price

Notable Quotes

  • “It was the funniest fucking thing... You were a fucking beetroot, mate.”

    Jared @ ~15:00 — Describes the 'chilli incident' where Matt ate an entire Carolina Reaper cabana and spent 45 minutes in distress

  • “I'm good with spicy food, but not that type of spice because it wasn't. It's just a fuck you spice.”

    Jared @ ~14:30 — Describing extreme heat of Carolina Reaper pepper used in the incident

  • “I think the market is leveled out. I think it's now sitting at its level.”

    Matt @ ~1:04:00 — Market analysis indicating secondary market stabilization

  • “The discussions behind the scenes are definitely becoming a lot more voracious.”

    Matt @ ~1:09:00 — Indicates aggressive negotiating tactics for machine purchases

  • “A Rick and Morty for $9,000, I'll snap it up. That'd be nice.”

    Jared @ ~1:12:00 — Interest in specific machine acquisitions at target prices

Entities

JaredpersonMattpersonGeorgepersonRowanpersonAdampersonNathanpersonSoniapersonPinball Oz Wideorganization

Signals

  • $

    market_signal: Secondary market stabilization observed across multiple machine categories with Limited Editions consistently $15,000-$15,500 and Premium editions $11,000-$13,000

    high · Multiple pricing data points provided; discussion of market 'leveling out'; comparison of current vs. historical prices

  • $

    market_signal: Jersey Jack Pinball machines showing significant secondary market depreciation compared to launch pricing (Hobbit $13-14k vs. $18-20k asking, Dialed In $9-11k, Willy Wonka LE at $11k)

    high · Specific pricing examples and acknowledgment that JJP machines 'have always fallen dramatically'

  • $

    market_signal: Negotiation pressure increasing with buyers making significantly lower offers than asking prices in behind-the-scenes transactions

    medium · Discussion of 'discussions behind the scenes are definitely becoming a lot more voracious' and observation that neither host pays asking price

  • ?

    content_signal: Podcast growing audience with 299 streams reported and new Twitch channel engagement from viewers like J-Mate 73

    medium · Hosts noting 299 streams as milestone approaching 300; new Twitch followers joining streams

  • ?

    venue_signal: Melbourne Pinball Expo (MPA) actively hosting events with giveaways and live draws for VIP access

    medium · Discussion of live draw at George's house for MPA VIP passes and Friday/Saturday passes

  • ?

Transcript

groq_whisper · $0.170

0:00
Welcome, everyone, to the Pinball Ozwide Podcast, Episode 9. Not 10. I thought 10. Episode 9. Welcome. I'm Jared, and as always, joined by Matt. Welcome, Matty. G'day, buddy. How are you? Good. I feel like it's been a while. I feel like this is going to be a lot of just general chat. It is. 100%. What we've done, because we've had a big month. Yeah, we've been busy together, haven't we? We actually caught up a few times this month. Three times, actually. This is our fourth time in a month. Jesus. Yeah, and it's been a little bit longer between podcasts because I went away for holidays, so we did sort of a mid-month one in September. Yeah, so six weeks ago, wasn't it? Yeah, and we just haven't had a chance to get back together to do this. I actually wanted to do an earlier one, but I mean, kids swimming and stuff. But regardless of that, yeah, yeah, I mean, family and stuff, but even so, we've just had little bits and pieces along the way that we've done that we'll talk about, obviously, that has stopped us getting together and doing this anyway. So here we are. That's it. So we've got a language one anyway, guys. So any young listeners, there could be a couple of swear words, but we will try our best today, as always.
1:16
And thank you to all the listeners. Yeah, all the new listeners, all the subscribers. We're actually currently sitting at 299 streams at the moment. So after today, we're going to have at least 1,300. How exciting is that, mate? That's very exciting. That's pretty cool. I still think the listeners to the subscribers could be better. I'd like to get more subscribers. So if you're listening, just fucking subscribe. Just click a button. And also even leave some comments too. Yeah, give us some feedback. We really wouldn't mind hearing some feedback. Yeah, great. We did speak to some people just last week about some feedback, what they'd like to hear. So we'll also try and improve on that as well. Yeah, we can go through that when we get to the month in review, as they say. But yeah, definitely always happy for some feedback. Well, what have you been up to? Tell us what you've done over the last six months. Over the last six months. Over the six months I've done fuck all. Fuck all? Six months? Six weeks? Six weeks. Fucking six months. Did I really say six months? You did say six months. Okay. And this is going to stay in as well. Anyway, guys, yes, I've had a pretty busy month, actually. So obviously we had school holidays, kids' birthdays, my 40th. Yes, happy birthday. Yes, all the kids' parties went smooth. My party didn't happen because I had no friends.
Melbourne Pinball Expo
event
Alice's Adventures in Wonderlandgame
Mustanggame
The Simpsons (Data East)game
Indiana Jonesgame
The Shadowgame
Toy Storygame
Avatar (Limited Edition)game
Game of Thronesgame
Iron Maidengame
God Bookers Masteringgame
Strikes and Spares (Bally)game

operational_signal: Australian pinball community maintaining active social engagement with multiple monthly gatherings for gameplay and streaming

medium · Hosts noting they caught up three times in a month plus multiple other sessions; Alice unboxing and streaming attempts; tournament setup

  • ?

    product_concern: Avatar (Limited Edition) noted as mechanically confusing and having difficult-to-hit upper flipper shots despite overall acceptable gameplay feel

    medium · Jared's description: 'Those top shots are a bit weird and hard to hit from the lower flippers'

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: No single dominant game of the month for hosts this period despite multiple casual plays; variety of machines being enjoyed without deep commitment to specific titles

    medium · Matt stating 'there's actually been no game of the month' due to diverse play with school holiday visitors

    • 2:34
    But no, I'm not a party guy anyway. But I had a couple of legends come around for a session the week after my birthday. So Jared, Rowan and Adam. Who were the legends that came around though? I just said the names, didn't I? Oh, we were. I just said the names. and um yeah they um uh we walked outside and i just thought this is just a normal catch-up anyway so walked outside and bro said oh mate come help me get this out of the car what the fuck is this what is he wanting here so then anyway then jared's on the phone to my mate rob wow mate rob i said what the fuck you're talking you guys talk to each other all the time now you know yes yes just gave him a sneaky call yeah i was like what's going on here so anyway out comes a big box and what was in it, an awesome bloody custom-made neon sign. I'd say it was probably one and a half metres by one metre, and it says the Matt Cave. And yeah, that's going to go up in the Matt Cave. It's got a pinball machine under it, so we lit it up, and it looks fucking amazing. We should actually take a little photo and see if we can put that up for the listeners so that they can see what's going on. But yeah, we did. It was a little bit of a surprise. Yeah, so I had absolutely no idea. I just thought, we're just going to get on the cans and play pinball. I just didn't realise anyone thought about my birthday because it was a week later, but that obviously just other things got in the way for it to be earlier. It was. So, yeah, so we had that catch-up. We did.
    3:55
    What have I done? Oh, sorry. Well, just hang on a minute. But before you just skip past the catch-up, there are a couple of things, because this is my month as well, obviously, so because that catch-up included a couple of things that we did, one of which we did a little mini tournament. Oh, yeah. Sorry. Yeah, I did think about that. Yes, that's all right. Nathan had printed off, so our other admin had printed off some little trophies that I just – they were first, second, and third trophies. Kind of cute, kind of small. Just sat in my games room for fucking ever. And I was like, let's just use them. You, me, and Rowan tend to get together a little bit recently, and we do our trip to nil. So I was like, this would be fun just to have a little tourney between the three of us and play off for the trophies, which we did, which was kind of cool. but the funniest thing that I just wanted to bring up was what I'm going to start calling the chilli incident.
    4:49
    Oh, fuck. And it hurt the next day. The chilli incident. Now, I promise you guys, no matter what Matt says about this and if he tries to downplay it, it was the funniest fucking thing. So he went to his butcher and he got some cabana and it was the Carolina Reaper cabana. Now, he was trying to be a fucking tough guy and shove this down me and Rowan's throat. I'll be honest, at the time, I didn't even know it was the Carolina Reaper. I told you so, man. I know, but I think it just went in one ear and out the other. I might have been playing or doing whatever because you were like, oh, fucking, you want to try this cabana? Come on, fucking try it with me. So me and Rowan took a piece, so you'd cut it up into slices, and I handled it quite well. Yes, it was fucking hot. Yes, it burnt my mouth. I'm good with spicy food, but not that type of spice because it wasn't. It's just a fuck you spice. That's all it is. Do you know what I mean? So me and Rowan had a piece each.
    5:53
    Meanwhile, unbeknownst to us, Matt decided, I think, to eat the rest of the cabana. Is that right? Because I wasn't going to waste it. Well, you probably should have because you spent the next 45 minutes drinking about 14 gallons worth of water, washing your face, your hands, your eyes. Yeah, I was primed red. You were a fucking beetroot. You were a fucking beetroot, mate. It was the funniest fucking thing. And I was like, I heard the tap go in the kitchen and you were there. like you've got this sort of you know i'm i know visually you can't see but you know the head was on the side and the water just fucking but it was great fun it was so funny and the best thing is i turn around you i'm going matt like seriously you shouldn't be oh no i'm great with hot food but i enjoyed it it was good it was fun what was happening you fucking idiot there's no way there There was enjoyment in that. It was, but honestly, the beer, I worked it out. More beer, make more burn. It wasn't healthy at all. It was the funniest thing we saw. So that, to me, was the highlight of the 40th. I know the neon for you, but the chilli. The chilli was a whole lot for me, especially next day, mate. My stomach was a little bit sore the next day. I bet the bidet got a working out. Well, hundreds at London.
    7:18
    But let's get back to the session we had anyway. So we had... The Chile incident. So we did the tournament. So the grand champ was Jared. He took first place. I took first place. I did, yeah. And I took second place and Ronald came in third, which he was already ready to accept and walk out the door before he even started. It was... I think I don't have the results anymore on my phone. It was close-ish between you two towards the end there. It was a bit neck and neck. Yeah, after I said they pulled off some amazing games on bloody Mustang, what a... Yeah, tell them. The first game, I thought, oh, look... No, hang on. Not the first game of the tourney. No, no, no. The lead up. Yeah, the first game of the day. So let's go jump a Mustang. Let's change the settings all the hard. Because normally there's too many extra balls in it. And Mustang's your go-to. It's your king machine. You're very, very good on it. So anyway, I just thought, yeah, we'll jump on here. And it went fantastic, I think. You did. Considering being on hard settings, I'd go really good except for sport. Yeah, it was at 130 or something like that, wasn't it? Something like that. And that was close to... GC? Yeah, GC. even on easier settings. So I worked my ass off. I was like, yeah, I'm going to have a good day today. I'm going to smash away. And what game did you pick in the tournament as the first game?
    8:29
    Oh, must have. Yeah, shit, yeah, yeah. And how'd you go? I fucking flopped. I failed miserably. Yeah, it was so... I burnt myself out on the first game.
    8:39
    Oh, well, and then after that, I just lost all my mojo. All your mojo? Yeah, went downhill from there. But it was still fun. It was great. We worked the trophies out on a point system. Yeah, we did. It was very safe. We just did a 4-4-2-1 or 4-3-2 or 3-2-1. No, it was 3-2-1. I think it was just 3-2-1. So three for win and two for second, one for third. So we did that anyway. It was good fun. I enjoyed it. We also had a couple. I'll change the topic quick. Yeah, yeah. So Matt Cave update. I know you like to ask me questions. For sure. No, I just want to get it in. Do it. I've had the builder come around. Okay. And he's checked out the land, he's happy with what I want to do. Okay. I've got my final design that I want, which the actual shed is left to right, is 20 metres. Yep. And then there's another four and a half metre length off the side, so it's covered area, so I can have barbecue and stuff out there. Yep. And then the shed is also 15 metres deep. Yep. And three rollators on the front.
    9:38
    So... Did you choose barn or...? So I'm just going to go with gable roof. Gable, yep. So go with gable roof all the way. Nice. Anyway, so he was happy with the positioning. Yep. So he's lodging the building permits this week. Awesome. Yes, there's actually something happening now. So depending on that, did he give timeframes on when it might start? Well, he said, I think he said it was about four weeks for the building permit. Okay. And then as long as we don't have to do a planning permit, it can start pretty much straight away. Yep. So planning would be just pending on where it is positioned. Well, planning permits is more about, yeah, well, it's also about the... Off the boundary and all of that sort of stuff.
    10:16
    Colours, any colours issues or anything like that as part of the council requirements? We're just colours. I didn't say anything about that. But the only issues that could be with the planning permit is about maybe the fire zone, the fire overlay, and if there's any trees, which I'll make sure they disappear. Yep. And otherwise, in my local area, you're meant to be 10 metres off the fence line. Oh, God, okay. Yeah, no, it's way too far. way too far out and I wouldn't do it so I've told him two metres and he said yeah we can work two metres so as long as they approve two metres it's all going ahead because otherwise I can't have a shed sitting at 20 metres and another 15 metres it'll take up half my backyard yeah yeah that's massive so good news guys at least yeah so hopefully starting sooner than later so then hopefully actually based off that maybe by next podcast we will have an update as to where the permit is and how much The trees are gone. Yep. So get out on the excavator and rip out some stumps. So I've got to do all the cleaning. Yep. Get rid of the chicken coop and the woodshed. Relocate that stuff. Okay. Awesome. Bit of work to be done. Awesome. Sorry about going backwards there. I thought I'd give it the update on that. Yeah, yeah. We had a couple other catch-ups too. We went down to George's house from the Melbourne Pinball Expo. Yes. So we did the giveaway. That was the live draw for the MPA giveaway. Yeah, yeah. Which went really well. He was giving some VIP all-access pass. and also two passes for Friday, Saturday. So hopefully the guys have contacted him about that. I know Tizano, I know he has, but I think the other two George was still waiting on. I chatted to him yesterday. I haven't heard if he said anything. So I'm only presuming they have because he didn't say anything again to me. But, yeah, that was a bit of fun. Yeah, we had a nice time. Had a few drinks, a couple of strong drinks. Yeah, Sonia makes them strong, man. Jesus Christ. I'm glad I only took one off her. I reckon. And then we had another catch-up at Georgia for a live stream for Alice, which we had some technical difficulties, so it just turned into just a drink session and some pinball and talking. Yeah, it was a bit of a shame. And it was funny, too, because obviously, you know, like I got there a bit early just to set up all the streaming gear and test the rig out and all that sort of stuff, which worked pretty good, so I was happy with that. And then, I mean, we played Alice for a good few hours beforehand, and it was fantastic.
    12:45
    So, yeah, I feel in hindsight maybe we should have not done that and then we could have played it. But, yeah, we had to drop the stream, unfortunately. And, yeah, look, we just had a bit of a bash afterwards. I played a bit of Toy Story on his machine. And what was the other one I played? Avatar as well. Avatar was confusing as fuck. I think that was just because everyone else was playing and I didn't get a chance to sort of hear or what have you. I got a few multiples here or there, and I put up a decent score. I think I got my name on the board, but it was still a difficult machine to understand. I've got no idea what I'm doing on it either, but I feel it plays well, but you just need to learn. Yeah, I think it plays okay. Those top shots are a bit weird and hard to hit from the lower flippers, but yeah, like I said, I just think, yeah, give it a bit more time maybe and have a go but yeah, it felt okay, it felt okay. So what about your month, mate? What have you been up to? Yeah, so same, I mean, like I said, start six weeks. So I went on holidays, over school holidays up to Port Douglas which was nice. I spent a couple of weeks there with the family and then came back. I threw straight into getting a tattoo completed which was... Which you didn tell me about I wasn able to give him the approval I didn tell anyone because usually and I think I chatted to you about this when I turned up to your 40th little catch is that my artist usually gets back to me within a three four period of a concept design but he didn do that He did it like two days out, and I was like, fuck. I didn't even know it was going ahead until the Monday he PM'd me. So, yeah, so I've got my sleeve completed now. So I did my bicep. Like I said, I think it was end of 23, and then I've just done my forearm to match it up only a few weeks ago now. Already thinking of doing a full wraparound, so thinking of the undersides as well, but we'll worry about that. Got the T-shirts completed as well, the Ozwide T-shirts for the Expo. So we threw them up on the page, which is good. So, look, a few sales haven't hit it out of the park initially, which is okay because we'll just take them to the expo anyway. Yes, we will. And hopefully off the back of that we'll get a few sales. But thanks to the guys that have purchased them initially. There's a little treat in there as well for those that pre-ordered as such.
    15:21
    So just a little thank you, a little extra thank you. So, yes, I did the T-shirts. um otherwise it's just been similar to you actually got the nbn finally installed in my place which has been awesome we chatted about that before so now the speeds are fucking through the roof you've been doing a bit of streaming too haven't you yeah well i i think i did say to you like when i tried the stream of iron maiden and i think it was rob came online and you know helped me once i changed over to a the usb camera the logitech's to an actual dsc camera sony dsc camera just wanted to hook that up and get some organizing with that so when i did it with rob online and he was looking at the maiden one it was okay but i didn't do it again because yeah the quality was a bit shitty so getting nbn has gone through the roof now so i did a stream of game of thrones actually um which was good fun i really enjoyed it um it was good just to get the rig back up and running and look it's a very basic rig you know i haven't spent thousands of dollars like these guys doing those aluminium, you know, A-frame style square A-frames where they've got everything hooked to it and they just roll them out and roll them in. Like, it's not that sort of setup. Not yet, anyway. Well, I don't think it will be, to be honest. Do you have an addiction? Is it stronger than this one? I don't know. I mean, I don't really want to spend that sort of money on it. I might just look to upgrade small bits and pieces maybe, like the boom and that sort of stuff possibly.
    16:55
    But, yeah, it was a bit of fun. I had a couple of new people join the Twitch stream, which was good. So hopefully that starts growing because I am going to start doing that a bit more now. Yep. Now, J-Mate, if you're listening, who are you? Yeah, what was it? J-Mate. J-Mate 73. That's right, J-Mate 73. So if you listen to the podcast, say goodnight. Was it Jason Maddow? No, because he was in Geelong, he said. No, no, that was the other person. He was in Geelong. Was it? Maybe it was. Yeah, Jason, let us know if it was you.
    17:28
    I think it was him. I don't know. He knows it like a beer, so I was like, oh, it must be him. Yeah, maybe it is. Yeah, maybe it was Jason Maddow. Maybe it was. But thanks for joining up, Jason, if it is you. Appreciate it. But, yeah, so hopefully we can just, you know, grow the Twitch channel a little bit more and get that going. But, yeah, it was a bit of fun, so I'll do that a bit more often now that I've got a good quality NBN connection, which is exciting.
    17:54
    And what else? I actually did an unboxing of Alice. Yes, you did. So before the stream, I went around to Georgie's and did an unboxing, so we put that up on the page.
    18:04
    It's so funny. Did you have a look at the time-lapse video? Yeah, I did, yeah, yeah. So that was a 37-second video, and it took us about an hour and 40 to get everything up and running. I would have known this if I got the mad invite, but no one extended enough to me. Yeah, George, you bastard. Thanks, George. You forgot all about me, didn't you? doesn't return my phone calls or anything, eh? I know. Blacklisted. But otherwise, yeah, that was about my month, to be honest. Not in a nutshell, because I probably rabbited on a little bit, but yeah.
    18:38
    So, yeah, so that's month in review. So we'll talk about our games of the month. Game of the month. Okay. What have you got? I'm still on God.
    18:47
    Bookers and Mastring, obviously. Yeah, fair enough. Yeah, I'm still enjoying it. I still want to work out the rules a little bit more. I actually played a quick game. Whenever I want a quick game, I go onto the Data East Simpsons. And I played it yesterday quickly. And fuck me if I didn't get that jackpot with the three ball multi-ball. I hit the ramp. I was 4.5 mil on my first ball. Have a guess what I ended up.
    19:13
    10? 4.7. I was saying I thought it must have been. I got a further $200,000 on my next two balls, the fucking shit machine.
    19:24
    So as for my game of the month, there's actually been no game of the month. Like I said, we had a lot of different plays, and even during the school holidays, my kids had some friends around, so we all gravitated to the pinball room, so it was just lots of different pinball, but there was no actual one specific machine for me this month. Yep. But actually, I've got a nice little comedic thing here. Comedic? Yeah, I think it is. Is this a joke? No, it's not a joke, trust me, because it hurts. So this could be my segment. How does it mean a thing if it hurts? Because you're going to laugh your ass off. Okay. Now, Jared, what is the most painful thing in pinball?
    20:01
    The most painful thing in pinball? Are you referring to specific pain or are you talking about playing pain? Let's just say pain in general for anything or everything. It could be anything.
    20:12
    The most painful thing in pinball? I don't know. the fucking Indiana Jones gun handle. I walked into it three times the other day. I've got this big-ass blank bruise on my right-hand thigh, and then I walked into it on the left-hand side, so I've got bruise on each side now. That's it, the most painful fucking thing ever. Do you remember when we were doing the setup of the rooms in your old house and we deliberately put... All those handles together. ...Shadow and Johnny... Not Johnny, Johnny. What's the other gun one? so there was a shadow of a T2 and we put them down the end of the room so that wouldn't happen and seriously no because what happened was my wife had put some washing in and I had to keep dodging I was changing batteries in the machines and had a few beers maybe too and also had to dodge around some washing so I just fucking three times slow will it that would have to be the most painful thing in pinball without a doubt yep that's it without a doubt too funny unless you drop a pinball machine on yourself but yeah that's about it Yeah, I don't know. I've never done that, thankfully. No, neither have I. Never done that. Too good.
    21:19
    All right, pinball price watch. I'm never going to financially recover. That's just like your opinion, man.
    21:31
    I'm going to make him an awfully good review. Honestly, right now, man, I think the market is leveled out. I think it's now sitting at its level. I think we're really seeing the... I'm not seeing much more dropping, but honestly, the Stern premiums are sitting at about $11,000, so $11,000 to $12,000, I think. Yep. And they're still sitting there, too. I think there's a couple of... Abnormalities, yeah. Yeah, abnormalities. Let's go with that word.
    22:03
    Anomalies. Yeah, that's the one I was trying to say. That is still popping up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're well below priced at the moment, but yeah, I think there's only a few here or there. But look, we're also seeing all the LEs really sitting at $15,000 now, aren't we? Yeah. It's got much more. I noticed, which is interesting, there was a JP LE at $15,500, which, weirdly enough, there was a premium at $15,500. So I don't think the premium's going anywhere fast. No, definitely not. But, yeah, there was an LE at $15,500 at Jurassic Park. Mate, there's a Metallica LE, which is the OG, $14,900, urgent sale. Yep. Still sitting there, mate. Yeah. Mate, you know, these things were fetching 20-plus. Yeah, they were 23 to 25. And so, you know, mate, there's a wonker, Ellie, 11 grand. Yeah, I feel like the JGP ones have always fallen dramatically.
    22:56
    Hobbit has steadied somewhat, I feel, around maybe 13 to 14-ish. People are still asking 18 to 20, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're going to move. But, yeah, I just feel like, and the dialed-in is around 11 as well, isn't it? Well, there's a dialed in, I think, sat there for age around nine grand. Was it? Yeah. Okay, there's one on the page, I think, recently, if I'm right, at 11. Oh, I don't remember seeing that. Dialed in, or maybe it's the Wonka. Oh, that's the Wonka. Oh, that maybe is the Wonka, actually. I might be on drugs for that. There's a Metallica Premium, the remastered version, 12 and a half at the moment.
    23:28
    Okay, well, I... Oh, no, sorry, sorry. No, no, no, sorry. Sorry, guys. No, that's the OG. So, Metallica Premium, you said 12 and a half, and it was dropped to 11.9. Yeah, yeah. Sorry. I saw that, yeah. It started at $13,500 too. Yes, it did. So that's dropped down a bit as well. And it's still sitting there.
    23:44
    And there was a Foo Five, is it $13,900? Yep. LE that was advertised. I haven't checked if that's been sold. And also the Wolverine LE, which finally sold at $95,000, which is... That's the X-Men LE, yeah. Yeah, the X-Men LE, which is... Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, but that's the two... Yeah, the old one, yeah. Yeah, the old one, 2000 and whatever it was. Even the Game of Thrones LE as well. I mean, that was at $17.5 is now to $16, so that's settling a bit as well. So there's definitely the LEs that are coming back down to that price range that you said of around $15, $15.5, which is a pretty decent price range, I think. Look, there was a Bally Space Invaders that sold for $4.950. Yep. Well, it could have gone for less, obviously. That's the price we see. Yep. Could have sold for $4.5 in negotiation. You never know. Well, I think the discussion we had when we were doing the Alice stream with a few other guys, and certainly the feeling out there is, you know, regardless, like you said, with that space is, if they're being advertised at 4.9, they're selling cheaper. The discussions behind the scenes are definitely becoming a lot more vicocious.
    24:53
    What big words say, buddy? What's going on? I don't know. I've had my morning coffee. In regards to, and that's probably the wrong word, so email me and tell me if it is. What the heck is this word? I don't know. People are like, what the fuck? So the word isn't precocious at all. It's voracious, speaking or representing the truth. Clearly, my morning coffee was no good. We return you now to our normal programming. But, yeah, I think people negotiating behind the scenes are negotiating to the point where they've just got to sell it and they're taking offers at a lot cheaper than what they're advertising at, without a doubt. But once again, I've never purchased a machine for the asking price either. Never. Neither have I. But I think people's perceptions, like ours, is that when you see them online, well, you don't know what they're going for. Yeah, that's right. So that's your presumption, is it? Yeah, yeah. That's what they sell for. Yeah, that's right. But they're clearly not. They're clearly not. Then there's also the Metallica Remastered Premium for Sale for $13,950. Yep. That's almost two grand off. Yep. Yeah, brand new, so. Yeah. That's a quick punt, isn't it? Yep, it is. When was that released? It was only this year, wasn't it? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, so, yeah, brand new machine. Although, was it? Because when we went to nil, he had it at nil, and that was earlier in this year. Yeah, so maybe it was released at the end of last year. End of last year, maybe. Yeah, we don't get to see him until six months later. Yeah, correct. So it's still under 24 months. Yeah, yeah, that's it.
    26:16
    But yeah, and with that as well, I think a lot of the SS machines are starting to come down a little. Like there was a Hulk there for $3,300.
    26:26
    I noticed as well, or Ash has got an Embryon for $55. That's pretty tempting. They would have been snapped up pretty quick. There's an Avatar Pro at the moment for $7 in Perth that I think is very tempting.
    26:44
    For resale value, because that would be one that I'd flip real quick because I don't know about the gameplay, but I'd want that cheaper for me personally. Yeah, that's right. Five and a half, six grand. Yeah, because then you've got to allow for $600 shipping over as well. But even there's a shack now for $45. If you remember, that one started at about $70 or something silly like that. So that's come down now a bit. So I think you're right. I think there's a settling in the industry where the prices have possibly found a bit of a price point. Will they keep dropping? Yeah, I don't know. I suppose it all really just depends on demand, doesn't it? And, you know, there's another Gunners that has popped up for $10. Was that $10? I think there's another one for $11,000 as well. So, you know, we're all in that price. And there's actually a Looney Tunes, a new Looney Tunes for sale for $15,250. Yep. That machine was $20,000. Yeah. Get you, so, you know. Yep. I bet you're waiting for Rick and Morty to pop up. A hundred percent. A Rick and Morty for $9,000, I'll snap it up. That'd be nice. I mean, I don't know about you. Did you have the best buy? I did. Any other? Sorry, hang on. Any other pricing that you wanted to talk about? No, I think that was about right. I did have the best. Okay. I'd say the best sale or best buy yeah what's that was a Bally Strikes and Spares for $2.70 yeah okay nice and that was local in Cheltenham okay I think it was Vince Papalino whatever his name is yeah yep he's been a long time member of the page yep so that's my best buy for $2.70 I was almost tempted to buy it myself just because have another one and just sit next to it yeah but yeah so that's the best buy okay nice I must have missed that I didn see it I think I spoke to you last week or whenever it was saying I didn see that there was one that I thought was an out Well this only came up the other day and it sold straight away Did it? Right, okay. I think it was like Monday or Tuesday. Yeah, there, Monday or Sunday. Yeah, there you go. I'd say best buy because of how quick it sold. Okay, yeah, definitely. And what a great machine. Well, regardless of how quick it sells, I think just the price point is spot on. That is definitely a good buy, without a doubt. It was in nice condition too, so it wasn't stuffed either. Yeah, okay. Good.
    28:52
    And that just leads us on to the world famous What The Fuck. I have a couple special mentions before we get to the What The Fuck. The first special mention was the guy online that's advertising his JJP Guns N' Roses.
    29:07
    He's advertising it for $15,000, saying he bought it for $25,000. Oh, yes. So I'm not sure what the fuck has happened there, but he's either speaking shit, which is no doubt, or he's been reamed by somebody. So he gets a special what the fuck.
    29:26
    Lior with these figurines. Oh, my God. Look, I don't know if it's a piss take or not, but he's getting a what the fuck mention because he's spelling shit wrong. And I don't know if it's a piss take or not, but he's doing a little Circus of Altair figurine, and he did a part, no, no good golfers. It's no good golfers, but he spelt it wrong. And he spelt them wrong, like he spelt circus in the traditional way of C-I-R-C-U-S, where it's C-I-R-Q-U-S for Circus Voltaire. Like, come on, mate, if you want us to spend that sort of money on your figurines, they're like $190 for singular or $390 for the larger ones, limited edition. Like, get fucked, mate. Like, do me a favor. But the what the fuck for this month goes to an Alice Cooper. Yes. Spooky's Alice Cooper online. It's advertised currently at $21,000. Yes, yes. Now, what the fuck, man? I think we chatted. When we were at Tazpin, there was one there for around $12,000 or $13,000. and I did a little bit of backup research because I just wanted, you know, because I thought, oh, how long ago did it come out? You know, what were the last sales? And obviously there hasn't been that many in Australia to be able to go, oh, yeah, one sold two months ago. So, you know, bear with me. I understand I can probably cop some flack based off the sales, but because the market is settling somewhat, but I think the ones that I found are relative to where we are currently. But, I mean, what I had is I searched and they were around 6,500 USD new, so around 10,000 Australian. Add maybe some GST and shipping, you might have spent 11 or 12 on it, you know.
    31:29
    I mean, you're asking double the price? I mean the pin side pricing is still showing under new at the moment so that means it should not should but relative I guess is still around that ten or eleven thousand dollars for a machine but one sold in 2023 for 15.5 and one sold further back in 2020 for 12.9 so like even at 15.5 two years ago, I mean, you're still five, six grand over that. Like, it just, I don't know, it just, seeing where the pricing is currently and that at 21 for an Alice, comparable to a brand new LA, what the fuck? Yeah, that's it. What the fuck? So anyway, listeners, the Melbourne Pinball Expo is on next week on the 6th, 7th and 8th at the Matthew Flynn's Hotel. So if you haven't got tickets, I think it's tough titties, isn't it? Yeah, I think George was saying it's at capacity now. I'm not too sure if he's got any more walk-ins or anything. No. I don't think so. He might have room for them. But anyway, guys, we'll be there, myself and Jared. We're doing the media on Facebook for it. We'll be doing some live stream. We'll be doing some podcasting. So make sure you guys come up and say g'day to us. Come and introduce yourselves, you know. Just say g'day and we'll have a chat together. Unless they're people we don't want to see. Yeah, or that too. and also we'll have a few beers with each other, so we'll be open for that. As in you and me will have beers together? Yeah, we'll have beers together, but also with the people we're going to chat to. Am I making this a bit confusing for you? Not really, mate. Why? I don't know. I'm just getting clarity.
    33:11
    I want to have beers with you, Matt. Just making sure. We're going to have beers together, mate. So as long as you Uber it with me. No, I think I said to Rowan I'm going to chat to him maybe today. I reckon that – so for those that are wondering why we're having this discussion on air, Saturday night we've got the Metallica concert. So Thursday we'll be there for the set-up. Friday we'll be there, obviously, for the expo and a few live streams. Saturday the same. But then Saturday night we've got Metallica. Now, I know you want to Uber it. No, we're just driving to the city, yeah. I just reckon I drive to the Expo, drive into Crown. You can pay for parking. Yep. We'll go to the casino.
    33:55
    You can buy me beers. I can buy you beers. We can go to the Metallica concert and then come back after that and then the casino and then just drive home. Like, it's just, I just think it's easier than fuck-assing around with an Uber. And we're going to be knocking on the internet as well, so it's going to be a long weekend. I hate cunts driving, man. Yep. Especially yours as well. What? Oh, God. Mate, I come and pick this bloke up all the way from his house. I've got to drive. No shit. Look, I won't park my personal cars. Where did we go that day? Where was that? Fucking the airport in Tasmania. That's right. You know, I had to drive 30 minutes backwards to come 30 minutes past my house. You drove like a driver, mate. You were on the fucking Xceloids. Yeah, because I was driving a car, shitty high 30. I don't normally drive because I won't park my cars at one of those fucking places because they like to go test drive them. So, because they're idiots. so anyway so back to the expo we're going to have a merch stand there which will be open we discussed so probably the last hour of each session I'd say yeah look yeah or even if people come find us whatever maybe we'll leave a phone number at the desk and people can start prank calling us yeah I don't know I mean I might just sit there for a little bit longer and see what happens we're not going to be too far away anyway so we're going to have our t-shirts there our kangaroo which is an unlimited but the koala one, you have to be at the expo to pick that up and take it home with you. Yeah, specific for the expo. I mean, obviously, if they don't sell while we're there, we'll just log them off on the line. Mate, we've got shirts for life. Shirts for life. Yeah, that's it, mate. Hand them down to the grandkids and grandkids and grandkids. Yeah, that's it. That's it. So, yeah, definitely. We have some stickers there as well. Stubby holders, aren't we? Yeah, we've got stubby holders there as well. Stickers. Yep. So that'd be nice. But, yeah, I mean, certainly, you know, if you guys want to chip in and get some T-shirts, that'd be awesome. It does sort of help us. I mean, we're not making stacks of money off it, but it just helps put into the next adventure, which might be more T-shirts and, you know, that sort of stuff. And giveaways, honestly. Giveaways, which we haven't done on the page for a while. So, yeah, definitely. But, yeah, I'm looking forward to the Expo. It should be good. It will be good. Rumour industry news. Yeah, so. What do you want to fly off with? Let's just start off with the King Kong topper accessories. You can handle this because I ignore this sort of shit because I just figure the price is just down. It is stupid. I think it's ridiculous. Didn't even look at it. Mate, the shooter rod. What is it? Is it his head? It's that gong. You know the gong? Yep. They've literally got that gong and glued it into a shooter rod.
    36:23
    And selling as well. Then the topper. Can I guess? Let's play a game. Yep. You say the accessories and I'll try and pick the pricing. Okay. Have you got the pricing? Do you know it? Not really. Jump onto AMD's website then. and let's have a look and see if I can pick the pricing of these stupid accessories. Knowing full well that we have one Paul Anderson, shout out, Paul. He can make amazing stuff. He does shooter rods for $90-odd. Okay. All right. So the shooter rod, which is a – I'll just show you a photo so you can actually see it. Okay, that's a good idea. That's the play part of the – okay, so it's detailed, though. Yeah, but it's the same gong off the bloody – I get it, but it's detailed gold. I still reckon that's about a $230 shooter rod.
    37:11
    Where do I come in on that? If you want prices right, you fucking lost everything, mate. Oh, have I? Yeah. $330 plus GST. Get fucked. $330. Fuck me. That's just stupid. Fuck. So what's that? That's $363. Plus post, no doubt. Plus post, yeah. Wow. That's a shooter rod. Then we've got the, we're not going to talk about expression lights because they're all just whatever it is, they're the same. Yep. The Art Blades. Okay, show me the Art Blades. I'm about to. I'm going to guess, well, if the shooter rod is 330,
    37:47
    they don't look like they're much, actually, do they? What's this for again, King Kong? I can't tell what that is. Is he just fighting? What is it? It looks like fighting. Fighting Godzilla or something, is he? Two crocodiles, mate. Two crocodiles. He's fighting two crocodiles, so they've got an Aussie theme, so that's good. Well, that's what you want to call them. Oversized Megalodon, whatever you call them. I would... Okay, I would be thinking close to 200 then. So let's say 175.
    38:12
    You could have almost won a car. Okay. So we'll round them 180. Okay. Plus GST. The only reason I say that is because I know that when I get the blades in from the US, they're usually around 120. So I just thought, okay, there's probably not much more on them. Then we got the topper. The topper. Which is the same King Kong which is in the machine. Right. Just up there and just moves his arms around the same as it does down there. Okay. So he's the same type of... Exact same mech. Can I have a look? I'm sorry. No, this is a private game. But look, he's sitting in a plastic surrounding like at a movie theater. Okay. So the first thing I feel is very similar to GNR, that looks like. Yeah, because it's like a movie theater type thing. I love bananas I think that they said you can change that lettering I think someone said that Okay Or unless it was someone saying It would be cool if you could change the lettering I'd be surprised Oh look that's So King Kong does he move left and right Backs his arms up and down He's shackled in change It's the same mech Which is just in the bottom top right hand side of the playfield So they've not done anything exciting I know I'm probably well unders here, but I'm going to say $1,299.
    39:35
    Cool. Get the fuck out of here. If you say anywhere above three, you get the fuck out of here. We're pretty close. We're at 2,300 plus years today. Fucking hell. Plus 25. Yep. Fuck. Yeah. It's a lot. Way too much, mate. Yeah. Look, if it was priced right, yeah, no worries, but it's just too extreme. I think my most expensive top I bought was a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles one. By the time you add those up, you can almost buy a pro. Yeah, pretty much.
    40:13
    Seriously? Yeah. So you'd be $3,000-odd, wouldn't you? Okay, so you're a little off. I shouldn't... Maybe that can be a bit... No, no, but it's still good helping the tool people. Fucking hell, mate. so look if like I said the most expensive top oribor was a 10mm Ninja Turtles top oribor which was was it was at 1100 or 1250 or something like that plus GST and after that I said no I just can't justify it so then what else has been there's been quite a lot going on isn't there quite a lot honestly something I really really appreciate is some of these custom made pinball machines by these the community yeah the biggest one is big trouble on Little China. Big Trouble? Have you ever seen that? No, I did see it. It looks great. Yeah, I didn't have a look at it. Was it just a reskin or? No, no, a full custom-made machine. It looks fantastic. It's got, Brian Allen did the artwork. He's got Scott Denise here, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, okay. There's some music. Yeah, yeah, hang on, I'll open it up.
    41:12
    It looks fantastic. Fantastic. Well, they're the big names I know. so Art Blades by Randy Martinez I don't know who that is but it looks fantastic it's a really cool looking machine and it's also I don't actually I was just the people's names there but yeah so I was just wondering if that could actually become a production machine one day because people have asked for it for years and it what a great movie it is what is it David Lopan the problem is that if someone has the license for it in the background it'll never become yeah that's right You know, like what he's done. Same with what happened with Sonic, aren't we? Still waiting for that to come out. And he was a JJP, that dude. Yeah, correct. So, yeah. Well, talking about that, though, Sonic is supposedly JJP's next machine. Yeah, okay. And did you see on Facebook Jack Danger on his, what's his thing? Deadflip, isn't it? Yeah. So he put up a custom little upper playfield, it looked like, which had 12 spinners in it. What does that think? You think Sonic, wouldn't you? No. You rip around. I just think he was being a fucking... Yeah, you reckon? Yeah, because he's always been talking about outland spinners. No, no, this is an upline. No no no With the little loop ramp Yeah loop around it No I didn associate that with Sonic I thought it was straight away Sonic But he was stern so there would be no correlation to that if JJP had the license. Yeah, but. I think he was just having a bit of tongue in. The way I took it was it was just a bit tongue in cheek because he loves his spin. He's always talking about spinners. So he was talking about outland spinners in his that I think stern. I think there was also a chat about him moving to JJP too. Oh, was there? Yeah, okay. So is it true or not? I don't bloody know. I would think more if it was a loop.
    43:06
    Yeah, yeah, loop, yeah, yeah. Then you could associate that with Sonic, but not just an orbit-style loop with 12 spinners. I just thought he was just being a dick. Maybe. In a funny way. No disrespect, I meant that in a funny way, like as in, yeah. And Jack, we want you next year for the Expo, buddy, if you're listening.
    43:23
    He's coming this year. Oh, no, Jack Danger. Oh, okay. Yes, Jack Danger. Did you see as well the Brian Allen CV artwork that was put out? He did some CV artwork. He did a whole new back glass. Yeah, I saw the back glass. Yeah, yeah. I haven't seen the blades, though. Yeah. I tell you what, he does some nice quality stuff. I'd love to get that back glass just to display more than anything, I reckon. I think that'd be fun.
    43:48
    But, yeah, that was pretty good. Some of the stuff is just too expensive, unfortunately, which is not him as an artist, but I just mean by the time you can reverse it and get it over here, You know, like I look at all sorts of hobbies that I follow, obviously, and... I know, it's six million. Our dollar's shit. Yeah. Until our dollar gets better and shipping gets better, what are we going to do? Yeah, it's hard. They don't want us to buy, that's all it is. No, that's it. So then what have you got? We've got the Barrels of Fun in the Winchester Mystery House. Winchester, yeah, so that was a new release. Which looks interesting, you know? Yeah. It looks very top, upper playfield heavy, like top section heavy. Yeah. But, yeah, I've watched a couple of different videos, but I'd like to see some more in-depth gameplay. So I'm very keen to play that. Yeah. Yeah, it did look pretty good, actually. I didn't mind that little rotating play field at the top, which gave different shots. I'm just trying to think.
    44:42
    I think I saw, was it Carl D'Angelo, talk about it a little bit on like a five, ten-minute sort of YouTube stream or whatever it was. and yeah, it sounded very complex, the rules about going through houses and mysteries and all that sort of shit. So I'm sure that'll take a bit, which is funny because when we were playing Alice, I was like, it's such a basic machine. There's not much to the rules. So I complained, well, not complained, but I thought that side of it. And then yet when you get something that's obviously a bit of depth on the opposite, I'm still like, gee, that's really confusing. So I guess I'm very much a middleman when it comes to rules. but it looked like it flowed pretty good and had some nice shots. And since it was a custom theme, which wasn't... Well, it's not a custom theme. No, it's a story, but they didn't have to go pay an IP, I don't think. Yeah. Like a movie. It's off a real haunted house. Yeah, but they're not paying actors like Arnold Schwarzenegger and shit. No, no, no. That's what I mean. The cost would be low there, so they can put their money in the mechs and in the machine. I think Barrels of Fun are showing that regardless, though, aren't they? Yeah, I guess so. They did it with Juneteenth. Yeah, and same with even Labyrinth. You know, like everyone was really keen on the mechs and the custom little sculpts and stuff like that. So it feels like they're finding a really good happy medium. Yeah, well, that's right. Not being too greedy. And obviously, they're passionate people, they are, aren't they? Yep, yep. So then the next big one, which I'm excited about, Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. I think I might have to buy one. Ooh, hello. It's one of my dream themes. Sight unseen. Yeah, I know. This is a problem, isn't it? But look, as long as it is Beetlejuice and not Beetlejuice Beetlejuice, which is the sequel, and as long as they get Michael Keating's voice, as long as they get all the assets here, like Michael Keating, Winona Ryder, Alec Baldwin, Jenna Davis, if they can get all them on the call ads and stuff, Sure, they don't need a shitload of custom call-ins, but as long as there is something custom, it's not just music and stuff from the movie. So I'm very keen about that, though. Yeah. Look, I have no interest in it. I watched the original movie. I've watched it with my kids, loved it. Watched the second one, was okay.
    47:05
    Dream theme. It's interesting you've used dream theme. I wouldn't say dream theme, but it's one of my dream themes. Okay. Beetlejuice is a dream theme. How many other themes would be a dream theme for you? Because for me, right now, I've got one. Yeah, Matrix. That's my only dream theme. And I don't know if that's sort of the norm or not. I'll be interested. Listeners, let us know what your dream themes are. You know, like, do you have more than one?
    47:31
    Hotmail, what is it? Pinballerswide at hotmail.com if you want to let us know, or just through socials or whatever, Facebook page. But, I mean, how many have you got? I mean, Big Trouble Little China, you said, Fifth Element, I know is a lot of people's dream themes. Mortal Kombat, mate. I love my Mortal Kombat. So how would that play out on them? So how do you decide what is a dream theme? So one that you would... Machines that were never released, which I think they should have been released. Total Recall.
    48:00
    Total Recall. Yeah, okay. Okay. Just thinking of stuff that really, you know, favourite movies and stuff. Something that stirs the loins, mate. That's what a dream theme is. It's not something that just hasn't been made yet. Something that stirs you, you know. Yeah, well, I can't say other machines because they've already been made. Because the machines are already out there, you know. They're great. Yeah, yeah. Like Rob Zombie, that's really up there for me. There you go. Metallica. That would have been a dream theme for you, though. And Metallica. Yeah. So, but it was already made, but you're making me think about machines that aren't made. Correct, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying. But compared to, like, Foo Fighters and Demoman and Judge Dredd. Well, that's what I'm saying to you. So before they came out, they wouldn't have been dream themes, but they were machines you were like, oh, yeah, fucking that looks great. I'll buy that. Same with Rick and Morty. I'm sure that's not a dream theme. It's quite up there, yeah. It is? Okay. I don't say it's a dream theme, but it's up there. So that's what I'm saying. So for me, Matrix won and died a dream theme. Yeah, fair enough. I don't have any others that haven't been made. Once again, as Gerard said, if you've got a dream theme, let us know. Let us know what that is too, which hasn't been made. So, South Park, supposedly there's been some rumours about South Park being made. Yeah, I think we chatted briefly about it last time. Honestly, once again, I love South Park. One of my favourite shows. Honestly, the last couple of years they've gone a bit crap, a bit too PC. They just went, yeah, can't be bothered with it. But if they could have something like a Jersey Jack screen, you know, but that won't happen because it's too not kid friendly so just as long as you had a screen you were living in South Park you were a part of that town, that would be fantastic and at least something with a good play playfield and mechs so then what else Cuphead which has actually been announced so I won't say who by the way but it's on a list Okay So Which Can't bet I enjoy A lot of the games I don't mind watching the TV shows But Yeah So that'll be interesting to see too Yep And we've got Dropping tomorrow Is the Walking Dead Remastered Right okay So Are they going to Do Pokemon first Or Walking Dead Remastered But If that's the case It would sort of make sense If it was Walking Dead Remastered Because That means it's one remastered machine Per year At the moment So obviously But Talig would have actually been this time last year, if you think about it. Yeah, come in, yeah. So maybe this is their time of year that they're going to remaster it every year.
    50:39
    So that's quite interesting. And then maybe starting next year will be Pokemon. So who knows? There's a lot of chatter out there. There is. What else was there? Supposedly someone said that Dutch got the rights for Raza, So Retro Atomic, a zombie adventure land. Okay. So, which could be the next machine, but I've also heard another rumor about another next machine. So what is it? Back to the Future? Yeah, well, that's it. So he's a Raza, but it's Back to the Future.
    51:13
    Yeah. It wouldn't surprise me if they have Raza just based off having Alice. Yeah, that's right. From the same designer. So obviously they're probably working with J-Pop or have come to an agreement with him or just whatever it might have been. So that wouldn't surprise me. Or they gave him a job, maybe.
    51:29
    I think that'd be out there if they'd give him a job, because, yeah, I don't know if people would be happy about that. But he's in the back room, they're hidden away, hiding away. In a little box that they unlock and let him out. Once a day for a feed. A little crazy man. Yeah, that'd be interesting. But, yeah, I've heard Back to the Future as well. So, yeah, that'd be interesting. I think... Once again, how long is this going to happen, though? Yeah. That's the whole thing. Yeah, that's the problem I have with Dutch is just the weight on machines is just excruciating still, you know. And I think the best thing to do is always wait until they iron out any kinks, you know. But I've probably felt that with a lot of new in-box. To be fair, is that, you know, I'm just like, if there's something that really interests me, I mean, the last new in-box I bought, admittedly, was Maiden, and that was what, 2013? No, Maiden 2019. 2019, so... 2018.
    52:29
    Hang on. 2018. 2019, yeah. So, yeah. So, I mean, like, that's a while back now, and I didn't wait for any kinks to be ironed out on that, but, you know, certainly, I think when it comes to these smaller boutique, more manufacturers, Spooky, Dutch, you know, CGC, I hate to say it, you know, Pedretti, I just, I ain't touching their stuff until, you know, the second or third iteration of it, or someone's owned it and ironed out all the bugs for me. Yep. You know, because I don't want to put up with any issues. It's official.
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    But, yeah, other than that, that's it. Admin rants. I don't. I think everyone's very, apart from still just deleting people's stupid. Yeah, there's still more shit on the page, isn't there? Fucking. Otherwise, everyone's been pretty well behaved and polite to each other. Well behaved and polite. Yeah, yeah. I think the page runs pretty smooth at the moment now. So people are still joining and we're still growing by the look of it, which would be good. So hopefully come Expo we get a few more members off that, which would be nice as they wander around scanning the QR code. But, yeah, otherwise it has been pretty good, pretty easy. Shout out to Rowan who's been showing us some things that have been popping up that need to be deleted. So thank you, sir. Oh, yes. He always PMs me with little... Because he doesn't fucking message me or anything. Oh, he does. He puts it in the chat occasionally, doesn't he? Oh, yeah, maybe he does. Maybe they don't pay attention. But yeah, otherwise, mate, I'm looking forward to Expo. We'll probably... I think if you get the opportunity, I think we'll do a podcast halfway through the month just to sum up Expo. We're hoping to have a live feed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're hoping to have a live feed and podcast with Eric and Jersey and Jack. So we've got a little table set up, So we're hoping that they'll come and sit with us and just have a bullshit chinwag. I don't know what about because I don't want to be cliched. I want to actually talk about shit, maybe. I don't know. Ask them if they've played the latest tunes.
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    No, I don't know. We'll find something. But, yeah, I think there's a few people that are going to come up and have a bit of a chat and do a live feed at the same time to the page. So we'll put that into a podcast as well. But then I think after the expo, we might get together a bit earlier and just while it's fresh in our minds, maybe, if you want to. I don't know. Maybe we can just wait until the end of the month and release what we talked about at the expo to others. I think we could just do an expo special.
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    Exposé. Yeah, that's it. You and your fucking wits. Jesus Christ. But listen, if you want to, guys, come up. We probably will have some mics at some stage. So if you want to be on the podcast, more than welcome to come up and have a yabber. All right, mate. Thanks Chad, lovely chatting as always mate Enjoy the rest of the day Let's go through this box of goodies from Nathan mate and I'll show you all the shit that he's printed me, thanks Nathan I hope you guys all enjoyed the podcast, thank you We'll chat to you soon, cheers Anonymous How do you You and these words today. I fucked that one right up.
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    I think I did that last one too. Yes, you confuse yourself a lot. No, I don't. I have not had my breakfast beer, mate. That's the problem.
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    Oh, bing bong. Package, mate. Package. and ruin the podcast mate because if my doorbell went off you'd be shitting bricks mate you've fucked the podcast no I haven't you don't fuck you fucking annoying prick come on yeah we'll do the podcast yeah we will do the podcast we can't because you're not getting that it's in your boss I don't know I'm fucking excited
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