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Episode 270 – Doodie Bag

Slam Tilt Podcast·podcast_episode·1h 31m·analyzed·Jun 26, 2026
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TL;DR

24-hour tournament revival, tournament updates, and criticism of Pokemon pricing and Barrels of Fun's controversial collector club model.

Summary

Slam Tilt Podcast 270 features guest Chuck Webster discussing the pinball tournament scene in New England, including the revival of the 24-hour Final Battle tournament (now at Fun Spot in Laconia, NH on November 7th), updates on the New England Pinball League finals, and reactions to recent product announcements including Pokemon accessories pricing structure and Barrels of Fun's new collector club subscription model that allows post-sellout purchases.

Key Claims

  • Chuck Webster has attended all 10 Sanctum 24-hour Final Battle tournaments

    high confidence · Chuck Webster stated 'I was at every single one of them' when asked about attending all Sanctum events

  • The new 24-hour Final Battle event at Fun Spot will be held on November 7th with registration opening July 11th at 11 AM

    high confidence · Chuck Webster confirmed 'November 7th is the date' and 'Registration for it is going to be on July 11th at 11 a.m.'

  • Pokemon accessories include multiple separate expression lighting systems (side armor, cabinet, speaker) costing hundreds of dollars in addition to art blades

    high confidence · Ron detailed pricing breakdown: side armor $400, cabinet expression lighting $250-300, speaker expression lighting $200, art blades $100, topper $1,500

  • Winchester Mystery House sold out in approximately 28 hours despite 525 unit production limit

    high confidence · Ron stated 'it sold out in, like, 28 hours' when discussing the Winchester release

  • Barrels of Fun's collector club ($75/year) allows 7-day post-sellout purchase window, potentially increasing actual production numbers beyond announced limits

    high confidence · Ron explained the club 'gives you dibs for seven days' after sellout, with example of '200 people ordered it in that seven-day period' for Winchester

  • Jason Zoller won the IFPA World Championships for the third consecutive year

    high confidence · Ron stated 'Jason Zoller won again' and 'I believe it's three in a row'

  • Escher won the Brisbane Masters tournament

    high confidence · Ron confirmed 'He won the Brisbane Masters' after identifying the winner as Escher

  • New England Pinball League is in its 37th consecutive season with finals on July 19th at Western Mass Pinball Club with 128 participants

    high confidence · Chuck stated 'New England Pinball League (NEPL) League is wrapping up its 37th season' and 'We'll have 128 people there for the finals'

Notable Quotes

  • “I've been to all the Sanctums, the 24-hour final battles at the Sanctum... The final battle actually technically started in my driveway.”

    Chuck Webster @ ~15:30 — Establishes Chuck's deep involvement in the tournament's history and origin story

  • “Jim didn't say, you know, the only thing Jim asked is we don't use the name. So I was actually trying to use the name Final Battle, but Jim didn't want us to use the name.”

    Chuck Webster @ ~16:50 — Clarifies why the new tournament has a different name despite following the same format

  • “They burned themselves by limiting that game. So you say no more LEs. Screw it. No, I didn't say that... You can do LEs. Make the LEs limited. Don't make the regular production games.”

    Chuck Webster @ ~58:00 — Clear articulation of industry best practice debate: unlimited standard production vs. limited editions

  • “Cash grab! That is true. It is 100% a cash grab, but gosh darn, that's... It's rough on the old butt cheeks and it's rough on the old asshole.”

    Bruce Nightingale / Ron Hallett @ ~48:30 — Criticism of Stern's modular Pokemon accessory pricing structure

  • “If that game went to Expo, it would have sold 1,000 games if there were 1,000 available. It's funny. They said 525 because they figured it wouldn't sell, and then it did.”

    Chuck Webster @ ~55:00 — Articulates the tension between limited-edition scarcity and actual market demand

  • “So the number is really not 525... You can't do that... You announced that the game is being released for 525 numbers.”

    Ron Hallett @ ~51:30 — Identifies the core problem with Barrels of Fun's collector club: advertised production numbers become meaningless

  • “Registration for it is going to be on July 11th at 11 a.m. We're going to use a company called Ticket Tailor, which is like an Eventbrite. And crash their site.”

    Chuck Webster / Ron Hallett @ ~21:00 — Practical planning details for major tournament with expectation of high registration volume

Entities

Chuck WebsterpersonRon HallettpersonBruce NightingalepersonJim SwainpersonFun SpotvenueJason ZollerpersonEscherpersonDavid Van Nessperson

Signals

  • ?

    event_signal: The iconic 24-hour Final Battle tournament is being revived at Fun Spot in Laconia, NH after the Sanctum ended the tradition. Registration opens July 11th at 11 AM for November 7th event. Expected to fill 100+ participant slots quickly.

    high · Chuck Webster organized the revival after original organizer Jim Swain retired due to burnout. Event follows same traditions, prize structure, and bounties as original Sanctum events.

  • ?

    product_strategy: Stern's Pokemon accessories are sold as separate modules (side armor, cabinet/speaker expression lighting, art blades, topper) rather than bundled, resulting in $500-$1,500+ costs to achieve the shown aesthetic. Hosts criticize as deliberate cash grab compared to previous bundled systems.

    high · Detailed pricing breakdown: side armor $400, cabinet expression lighting $250-300, speaker expression lighting $200, art blades $100, topper $1,500. Prior Spike 2 systems included lighting AND art as one piece.

  • $

    market_signal: Barrels of Fun's Winchester Mystery House sold out in ~28 hours despite 525-unit 'limited' production, suggesting demand far exceeds announced production. Company responded with collector club subscription allowing 7-day post-sellout purchases, effectively increasing total production numbers post-launch.

    high · Winchester sold 525 units in 28 hours. Collector club example shows 200 additional units ordered in 7-day window, making actual total ~725 units. Hosts argue this contradicts 'limited' designation and that unlimited standard production would have captured more sales (estimated 1,000+ if available at Expo).

  • ?

    product_concern: Barrels of Fun's new Barrels Reserve Collectors Club ($75/year membership) receives mixed-to-negative reception. Hosts and guests argue the program is a workaround for poor initial production planning and that advertised production numbers become meaningless when post-sellout windows exist.

Transcript

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0:00
Boy, I wouldn't want to be, like, grinding around on the floor like that, you know, because I'm meh. You know how people always pee and poop in the shower, you know?
0:07
Uh, no. I mean, like, I pee in the shower, but I don't poop. What? You don't? You know what I'm talking about, buddhead. Everyone does it, you know? It's like you poop in the shower, and then you mash it down with your foot into that drain thing, and then you go wash your foot off in the toilet, you know?
0:26
Uh, no, I don't know, Beavis. Boy, you're weird, butthead. Coming to you from beautiful upstate New York, this is a Slam Selt Podcast, a show about all things pinball. I'm your host, Ron Hallett, here with the other hosts, Bruce Nightingale. You need to congratulate me. On what? I'm an uncle. You're an uncle? I'm an uncle. I met my nephew for the first time. He's 13 years old. Oh, okay. Wow. I really did.
1:07
If Bruce doesn't sound like his normal self, it's because he's on the old school headset. Yes, I am. Trying to peek this out to red. Thanks, Bruce. Thanks for making my editing job more difficult, you asshole. Yeah. Yeah, so this is because he has work going on in his house and he can't use his downstairs laptop. Private area. Yes, the nice mic. I can't use my corner. My corner. And this is episode 270, and we are not alone. Oh, my God. We are not alone. Rapist.
1:39
I'm covering my nipples. Oh, God. We have a guest. He hasn't been here in eight years, but he's back. But he's back, better than ever. Actually, the last time he was here was in June of 2018.
  • Fun Spot arcade currently has 83 pinball machines according to Pinball Map, planning to use approximately 60 for the 24-hour tournament

    high confidence · Chuck noted 'they're up to 83' pinball machines and 'We'll probably use about 60 of them'

  • A Transformers topper featuring moving Optimus Prime was unveiled at the Northwest Pinball and Arcade show with estimated cost around $1,500

    medium confidence · Ron discussed the topper with 'his mouth moves' and estimated cost '$1,500' based on the interactive features

  • “Everyone's like, tune in to this, waiting to hear what we think about, like, you know, Sonic and all that. We're talking about all this local pinball stuff they'll never go to.”

    Ron Hallett @ ~37:00 — Self-aware acknowledgment of the show's regional focus and niche audience

  • Barrels of Fun
    company
    Stern Pinballcompany
    Slam Tilt Podcastorganization
    New England Pinball Leagueorganization
    Western Mass Pinball Clubvenue
    Steel Valley Pinballorganization
    Pastimesvenue
    Winchester Mystery Housegame
    IFPA World Championshipsevent
    Brisbane Mastersevent
    District 82organization
    Andy Stevensperson
    Sarahperson
    Gary Vincentperson
    Patrickperson
    Nicole Bernierperson
    Mac A.person

    high · Ron and Chuck both object to the model. Chuck argues standard production games should be unlimited; if limited editions are desired, create a separate LE tier. Hosts note this requires paying $75 annually for privilege and that next year's game could be unwanted (joked as 'Lawrence Welk's Greatest Hits').

  • ?

    competitive_signal: New England Pinball League concluding its 37th consecutive season with finals at Western Mass Pinball Club on July 19th featuring 128 competitors. Regional tournament calendar includes Stomp on September 19th and new 24-hour event November 7th.

    high · Chuck confirmed league finals details and mentioned operating tournament circuit for decades. Fun Spot event registration opening July 11th creates tight scheduling window for enthusiasts.

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Jason Zoller has won IFPA World Championships three consecutive years, establishing competitive dominance at sport's highest level.

    high · Ron stated 'Jason Zoller won again' and 'I believe it's three in a row' at District 82 venue, streamed by Fox Cities.

  • ?

    venue_signal: Fun Spot (83 pinball machines) noted as having significantly improved game quality and maintenance standards recently, attributed to technician Sarah's work and focus on machine upkeep.

    high · Chuck noted 'the games, I don't know if you've been there recently, but they're much, much better quality than they've ever been. They've been doing a great job taking care of them.' Sarah credited as 'chief tech' maintaining high standards.

  • ?

    industry_signal: Pinball tournament scene shows healthy regional activity with multiple parallel events. Sanctum 24-hour tournament's conclusion triggered similar events by other organizers (Fun Spot revival, Steel Valley Pinball at Pastimes), suggesting demand for high-stakes competitive play remains strong.

    high · Chuck organized Fun Spot 24-hour as response to Sanctum ending. Steel Valley Pinball independently planned similar event in Ohio. Multiple regional leagues (New England, Western Mass, local tournaments) all operating concurrently.

  • ?

    design_innovation: Transformers (Optimus Prime) topper features motorized moving mouth/face plate with audio (Peter Cullen voice line), representing mechanical innovation in aftermarket accessory design.

    medium · Unveiled at Northwest Pinball and Arcade show. Ron noted 'his mouth moves, which is pretty cool' with retro 1980s toy aesthetic. Estimated cost $1,500 based on mechanical complexity.

  • ?

    product_launch: Stern announced Pokemon pinball accessories including Magikarp topper, Pokéball shooter knob, side armor, and multiple expression lighting system modules. Pricing structure represents significant modularization of previously bundled components.

    high · Multiple accessory tiers detailed with separate pricing: topper, side armor, cabinet/speaker expression lighting, art blades. Hosts criticize as intentional revenue strategy vs. bundled Spike 2 model.

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Community hosts express growing frustration with limited-edition scarcity practices, particularly Barrels of Fun's approach. Advocates for unlimited standard production with separate limited-edition tier for collector value.

    high · Chuck and Ron articulate clear position: don't limit standard production games; create dedicated LE tier if scarcity desired. Winchester example used to show how scarcity created FOMO but also left money on table (estimated 1,000+ would sell if available).

  • ?

    personnel_signal: Jim Swain (Sanctum 24-hour organizer) retired from event management due to burnout after 10 years. Chuck Webster stepped in to revive tradition with cooperation from new venue (Fun Spot) and Jim's blessing (with constraint: don't use 'Final Battle' name).

    high · Chuck stated Jim 'was getting burnt out' and decided to end event. Jim's only request: 'we don't use the name.' Chuck coordinated with Fun Spot owners (Dave and Eva) who 'embraced the idea right away.'

  • 1:54
    Wow. And we're talking about New England's own Chuck Webster. Hi, Chuck. Hey, Ron. Hey, Bruce. How's it going?
    2:02
    What up? Wow. Yeah, it's been eight years. It's been a long time. What have you done for the past eight years? Eight years. Yeah, just played a lot of pinball and tried to avoid all the pinball drama as possible.
    2:16
    Good luck with that. Yeah, it's possible. And now that you're on this show, more drama. No. For those that weren't around eight years ago, where were you? Chuck, give us a little story about yourself. It can be brief because you already did this before, but.
    2:33
    Oh, that's a little story about myself. I got into pinball from, you know, I used to play hockey at the rinks. They'd have pinball machines and before every game and after every game I was dumping quarters, actually dumping dimes into the machines. And that's how I got started. And since then I've been started collecting machines back in 92 and went from having one game to five games. I've been playing games to 10 games and now I have about 20, just under 25 games at my house and another 20 or so on, actually no, probably 15 on locations.
    3:08
    Nice. I've been busy. All I heard was Chuck with dime bags. That's all I heard out of that whole conversation.
    3:15
    I heard 1992. Like, wow, I was still in school. Yay. That's when I got my first machine was around 92. Royal Flush. An interesting story on Royal Flush. My wife bought it for me as a gift, as a birthday gift.
    3:32
    And we had this local place in town that actually would be unbelievable to have now. It's a pinball warehouse. That was the name of it, pinball warehouse. And all they did was sold used pinball machines. And she went into the guy and just said, hey, I want to buy a pinball machine for my husband, but it can't have violence. It can't have smoking. It can't have any bimbos on the back glass. And it's like that eliminates virtually all the machines from back in that era. So Royal Flesh was the closest she could come. And even that, it has a little bit of a bimbo on it.
    4:03
    You could have had a S.T.A.R.S. See, it would have been all set. That's true. S.T.A.R.S. would have been fun. S.T.A.R.S. is completely non-offensive. Galaxy, S.T.A.R.S. You could have had a couple of good ones. Quicksilver. No, that probably wouldn't work. Stargate. No, that wouldn't work. I'm sorry.
    4:21
    Meteor. Back then, media would have been okay. Yep. I don't know, violence, space violence. There's missiles. Space. Violence. Space. That might have been okay, though.
    4:35
    So we have a chock full of show. Chock full of subjects. And we're going to get into... Chock full of subjects is that heavenly talking. We're going to get into subjects that Chuck knows all about right up front. Right up front. We have a correction. I have to make a correction. Oh, you must have fucked something up. Yeah, we did. We fucked something up last episode. You did, yes. I agree. I did. Yes, see? Okay, you're going to blame me on this one. And your point? Yeah, okay. Okay, good, perfect. All right. So we mentioned... Excuse me, excuse me, rephrase. Okay, I mentioned the 24 hours that the Sanctum was going away and there was new ones coming up to take its place, And we kind of insinuate there's there's one that's happening at the pastimes in Ohio. We kind of made it sound like like as soon as the announcement of the sanctum ending came up, they were like, oh, we're doing one. But this is the correction. This is actually from Patrick emailed emailed us. He went note of clarification regarding regarding our 24 hour pinball a thon based on how you mentioned it on your latest podcast or how I mentioned it, according to Bruce. Yes, there you go. Steel Valley Pinball has actually been planning and advertising our 24-hour event for a couple of months now. See? You kind of made it sound like we just decided to host a 24-hour event after the Sanctum's announcement on Saturday they would no longer be hosting their 24-hour battle. Our online registration in Evan Bright was already scheduled to open up on Sunday. And so when the Sanctum announced they were not hosting their event anymore, we took the opportunity to emphasize our previous advertising of our event so that people who would miss a 24-hour experience could sign up for ours if they still wanted that experience. Ron, stop fucking up again. Please. It's very embarrassing for this fucking show. I humbly, deeply, and sincerely apologize. There you go. Thank you. We set our registration date as early as we did because we needed the time to get a minimum of 50 registrants. At least one month prior to the event for pastimes to agree to be the venue. There you go. They've been working on this for a while. The timing was merely coincidental. Winky-dink. Ah.
    6:53
    Yes. I'm just going to say personally, I'm sorry that Ron keeps on fucking up here. Wow. This is going to go on the whole episode, isn't it? It's going to be fucking awesome. More pinball is better. Yes. We genuinely feel sad that they are no longer holding the event to sanctum as it was a famous event in the pinball community and many people look forward to that each year. Hopefully you guys can make it down for the event or sometime to a future event at past times. Yeah, probably. As always, keep up the great work you do to promote pinball and great experiences for the pinball community. Looking forward to the next time I see you and looking forward to your complete and utter retraction. Oh, no, it doesn't actually say that. Ron's fuck-up. Yes, I totally agree with you. I offer a complete and utter retraction. I'll move that, too. That was in the ball bag, but we'll get back to that later. I just wanted to get that out of the way because I screwed up. That's not much of a screw-up. No. You didn't do it on a 24-hour tournament, but that's not a screw-up. Well, speaking of 24 hours, Shook, to Sanctum, were you at all of them? I was at every single one of them. How many of them were there? There were ten. Did they give the medallions out for everyone or did that come later? I think they gave them out for everyone. Damn, that means I was only in five of the ten. I'd have to go count my medallions, but I'm pretty sure they had medallions at every event.
    8:18
    Yeah, I'm pretty sure they did. Okay. But see, Chuck was not going to let that end. He was not going to let the 24 hours at the sanctum end. Too many people like it. And so there's a new kid on the block for New England when it comes to 24-hour tournaments. There's a new kid in town. I don't want to hear it. Actually, no, I do want to hear it. So Chuck's going to tell us about it right now. Okay. Well, as you just mentioned, I've been to all the Sanctums, the 24-hour final battles at the Sanctum. Myself, Matt Gay, Jerry Lindsay, and Josh Sensor. We're the four people who have been to every single one of these. And the final battle actually technically started in my driveway. It was a long story short. I was hosting a tournament back in 2013, maybe something around there. And Jim was there. James Kelsey was there. And we were just chatting about, you know, be crazy to host a 24 hour tournament sometime. And lo and behold, Jim decided to do it. This is Jim Swain I'm talking about. And the tournament turned into an awesome event. Jim ran a great event. It's a ton of work. People loved it. People came from all around the country to play and probably all around the world. I bet there's some international people. I'm not sure about that. But people loved it. It was really sad when Jim announced that he wasn't going to do it anymore. It wasn't a surprise. No, he was getting burnt out. Jim does a lot for the community and he was getting burnt out. So it wasn't a surprise, but it was sad. A lot of us wanted to continue with it. And I'm in a position right now where I'm basically retired, so I'm hosting pinball events for the fun of it, and I'm having some time to do it. So I just said, okay, I'm going to go talk to the folks at Fun Spot and see if we can make this happen again. And to my surprise, actually, Fun Spot was all over. Dave and Eva, the owners of Fun Spot, or a couple of the owners of Fun Spot, embraced the idea right away. So it just kind of took off from there. And I contacted Jim just to let him know what the plans were. And Jim didn't say, you know, the only thing Jim asked is we don't use the name. So I was actually trying to use the name Final Battle, but Jim didn't want us to use the name. So it will be a different event, but we're going to try to follow all the same traditions of the Final Battle. Same prize structure, same bounties, same millions. The battle final.
    10:36
    The final stand, I think, was close enough. People knew what we were talking about. The final countdown. Yeah, we could have done the final countdown. But yeah, that's how it came about, and it really took off very quickly. I wasn't sure if we're going to be able to fill it up with 100-plus people, but I don't think that's going to be a problem. I think we're going to fill it up pretty quick. Nice. So this is at the Fun Spot, which is in Laconia, New Hampshire. Yes. It's their new pinball area. It's been there since 1952, I believe. Not necessarily at the current location, but it's been at the current location for a long time also. Yes. If anyone's not familiar with Fun Spot, they should check out the movie King of Kong. Because I'm in it. I thought you were in it. I wasn't positive, but I thought you were. Yeah, I'm in it, so that's two reasons. You want to check out the Fun Spot and you want to... Well, here's a funny thing. I was trying to figure out what year that was that they filmed all that stuff there for the King of Kong. So I was doing some internet research and it was 2005 and I hit this webpage that had pictures from there. And if you remember in the movie, there's a scene where they're in, well Chuck would know where this is, the Brag and Dragon part of Fun Spot where they're giving awards out and all that. And I remember watching that in a movie and I'm like, I was sitting in that room, like I was right there. And I'm not in a single shot. But someone took pictures of the room and you could see me there in the room. Nice.
    12:11
    I don't think that room has changed since then. No, it hasn't. Not at all. Yeah, I think it's the exact same setup there. Exactly the same. So any more details? Like what time? It's going to be the same weekend, isn't it? Literally the same weekend? Yeah, kind of. Kind of. Normally it takes place the weekend of a time change, whatever you want to call that.
    12:35
    Because this year it falls on Halloween, like it did last year actually too, we pushed it back a week. So it's actually going to be on November 7th is the date. Just because we don't want to have a major tournament on Halloween. Yeah, I don't want to do that. That just wouldn't fly. People would be upset. Fun Spot would probably be busy anyway. So we pushed it back to November 7th. So it's the same time of year, just we pushed it a week. So yeah, it's going to be on November 7th. Registration for it is going to be on July 11th at 11 a.m. We're going to use a company called Ticket Tailor, which is like an Eventbrite. And crash their site. Yeah, probably. I don't know if they're going to crash their site. They're used to some big events. Let's hopefully we don't crash their site.
    13:16
    You have a website too, I think. We have a website. We got a website up and running. We wanted to do this right. A few of us, Mac A., Nicole Bernier, myself. I've been working with Dave and Eva up at Fun Spot. A few other people have helped out. And yeah, we developed a website, get that up and running. We got the dates locked in. We got the ticket tailor registration part locked up. Yeah, we're ready to go. The only thing I haven't done is order the medallions yet. I got to figure out a good supply for medallions. I'm trying to think as far as hotels because there's no chain hotels in the area. There are a couple in Laconia just outside of the Fun Spot area, maybe 5-10 miles away. I think there's a Comfort Inn and a Best Western or something. So there are some hotels up there. And it's going to be right in between seasons, so getting rooms shouldn't be a problem. It's right in between leaf season and ski season. I think for the way I used to do it, I would almost have to get three nights and then one of the nights I'm not even there. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's the only issue because when I did the Sanctum, it's like two hours away. So I would just drive back and then sleep for a few hours and then wake up and then go to bed that night and then I'd be fine. But here I'm not going to be able to do that. It's too far away.
    14:37
    So, yeah, I'll have to figure that out. If I can even get in. Who knows? Yeah, just be on your computer at 11 o'clock on July 11th. I'll probably try. I'm just curious how that's all. For those who haven't been to Fun Spot, it's like I think the second largest arcade in the U.S. as far as games. I think Galloping Ghost is actually bigger now. I think they have more games. I think Fun Spot is the largest arcade. Yeah, it's physically bigger. It's like three floors. And I'm just curious between rounds, is stuff going to be up? Like can I go play some Robotron or something between or is it just going to be confined in an area? Could you like bowl a game?
    15:20
    Right now it looks like the arcade section will be open. I got to finalize the details on that, but it looks like the arcade section will be open for the players. So in between rounds you'll be able to go in and play all your classic video games. Because that would be wild. I'm between rounds and I'm on pole position or something.
    15:38
    Karate Champ. Is that there? I thought that was gone. Because when they cleared a lot of this stuff out, that went to one of the kids. Okay, I was going to say, they probably have in the back room somewhere. Yeah, because they don't get rid of anything. It goes somewhere. Yeah, they don't sell stuff. No, they don't. Very rarely do they sell anything. I love the fun spot. Gary, my man Gary, Gary Vincent, the manager. Big Beavis and Butthead fans, so thumbs up here. But yeah, I believe the arcade is going to be open. Bowling, I've been talking to them about keeping the bowling alleys open as well, but I don't know if they want to do something like that. If they do that, it'll have to be open for public. Yeah, it wouldn't make sense to do it just for the pinball people. And it's not just bowling. It's candle pinballing, too. They have bowls. They've got everything. They've got mini golf. They've got bowling, candle pinballing. They've got ski ball. They got little bumper cars, kiddie bumper cars that I'm sure some of the pinball people are probably going to try to climb on and destroy things. That sounds like something Bruce would do.
    16:42
    Yeah, Funce Bus is an awesome place. All right. I'm trying to see if I have any other 24-hour things. I don't think so.
    16:51
    Yeah, just so you know, the entry fee is going to stay the same as it was last year. It's $155. Like I say, registration is going to be $711.11. So just remember that date. It's going to be a fun spot. It's just going to be a good time.
    17:05
    Any other interesting, cool things happening in the New England pinball scene? Well, the New England Pinball League is wrapping up its 37th season, 37 in a row. This is our final week, week eight, and then we have our finals at Western Mass Pinball Club in a couple weeks. July 18th, I think it is. That's one of the closest locations to me. Yeah, July, I forget the dates.
    17:30
    Actually, it looks like it'll be July 19th. Yeah, July 18th. If I remember, that's only like an hour and a half away from me. Yeah, that's not far from you at all. It's actually a really nice place. Oh, it is. I don't know if you've ever been there. Oh, yeah, I've been there a couple of times. Okay. Yeah, great location. Lots of good quality games and games from all eras. Andy Stevens is the guy who runs it there. He does a great job.
    17:49
    So our finals are going to be there this season. We'll have 128 people there for the finals. So, nice size event. All right.
    18:00
    You have any questions, Bruce? Nope. You answered them all, except for, you know, what's coming up before that. Stomp. Can you dig it? Oh, stomp. Can you dig it? Okay.
    18:12
    Oh, do you want to bring that up again? Do we have a date, right? Yes, we do. What's the date? 19th. September 19th. Okay. So basically after all is said and done, it's around the time it always is. Yes. Jesus. And how many people this year? Same as last year, which I did 40.
    18:35
    And the tickets will go on sale? Tickets. I love how there's actually, there's tickets. You're ticketing yourself in. Yes. Jesus. The date will be, hold on.
    18:48
    Everyone's like, tune in to this, waiting to hear what we think about, like, you know, Sonic and all that. We're talking about all this local pinball stuff they'll never go to. I love it. Yeah, they should go to it. I've been to most of the stops. You should. If you're in California, you should be going there. Absolutely. You should be coming to stop 100%. You should be going to 24 hours. Yes. Definitely 20. How many games do they have now? I guess I should have asked that. What are they up to? As far as pinball machines, according to Pinball Map, they're up to 83. We'll probably use about 60 of them, which is more than enough games.
    19:21
    And the games, I don't know if you've been there recently, but they're much, much better quality than they've ever been. They've been doing a great job taking care of them. I don't know if you remember Sarah from Pinball Wizard, but she's been kind of a chief tech over there. And they have a guy named Ryan who does a great job, too. So they've really got the games dialed in at this point. Very good. Yeah, Sarah's the one who cannibalized the four Karate Champ joysticks into two working ones. That allowed me to get the record that I kept for nine years. Nice. I didn't know about that. Yeah. Yeah, that's because she would work on the video games, too, before the tournament they would have every year. I think it was at least eight or nine of them they had, starting in like 1999. Every summer, they'd have the video game tournament, and they'd have the pinball part of it, which was just you could just keep playing game over and over and over again to get the highest score possible. Yeah, that old format. That format, yeah. Yeah.
    20:15
    So, all right. Cool. Well, while we're talking about tournaments, I got two quick ones here. Do you know the IFPA World Championships occurred since our last episode, Bruce? No. Oh. Yes. They were at District 82.
    20:30
    Yes, they were. They were streamed by Fox Cities. Hi, Tom. You know who won? Is it the world champion? Jason Zoller won again. It's a big surprise. Surprise, surprise, surprise. Golly, Sarge. I believe it's three in a row.
    20:49
    Three in a row. That's a three-peat. He should get a three-peat, IFPA three-peat t-shirt. Just throwing ideas out there. That's all I got for IFPA World Championships. Okay, what else do we have? We have the Brisbane Masters. That just happened last weekend. The big Australian tournament. Good day, mate. Hey, Chuck, guess who won that?
    21:10
    Who could possibly win that? It has to be another kid. Maybe. I don't know. He's in his 20s now. Is he really a kid anymore? He's still a kid. Yeah, that's still a kid. I remember him when he was like 10 and I was watching him on Apollo 13 blowing that game up at the old Pinnball facility or the old Papa facility. The mustache still ain't happening though. He's got to work on that. We're talking about Escher. Hi Escher. I don't know if he listens at all but congratulations. He won the Brisbane Masters. The Brisbane Masters, mate. Do you like how I said it right? I didn't say Brisbane. I said Brisbane. That's right. All right. What else? Okay. Did either of you see the Transformers topper? It was unveiled at the Northwest Pinball and Arcade show. Did you see it, Bruce? Did you see it, Chuck? I just saw it just a few minutes ago. What do you think? I'm going to look at it right now.
    22:04
    It's a topper that talks or looks around. It's like you say, it's the Black Knight. It's the Black Knight sort of rage topper. Let's reuse it again. I do think it looks good because it is Optimus Prime. It fits. Yeah, I'm looking at it again. It's Optimus Prime.
    22:22
    It's got the cheesy, like, 80s toy look to it, but that's what it's supposed to be. Yep. And his mouth moves, which is pretty cool. It's all, like, face thing, plate moves.
    22:32
    And it's, you know, Peter Cullen, I am Optimus Prime. And it's probably $1,000? $1,000 probably. It's got to be $2,000. I think if it moves like that, it's $2,000. Let's see. That's amazing. I pretty sure I don think they said the price but I believe if it moves like that it two grand If it just lights up and stuff Oh went down What a bargain Wow bargain Estimated cost Bargain That the estimated cost from flipping out pinball is the place where we get our pinballs Flipping out. I'm flipping out.
    23:05
    All right. We have $14.99. I think it looks cool. It looks cool. I'm not a topper guy, but it does look cool. I'm not a topper guy at all. Of course. I have taste. Oh. Oh, Bruce. I have low ceilings. That's true.
    23:24
    So while we're talking about that, also revealed Pokemon. I'm not saying around. Pokemon. Yaman. You got to say it like that. You got to say Pokemon. Yaman.
    23:36
    Pokemon accessories were unveiled. And I have some questions. I'm confused about some of the stuff. And maybe you two can help me with this. So they unveiled, they got a topper, which is a fish, and it moves, and I just immediately thought of fishtails. Yes. It's basically fishtails. Then they got the Pokeball shooter knob, side armor. Now here's where I get confused. Now with the old Spike 2 cabinets and all that, if you got the expression lighting kit, it came with the lights and the actual art, the art play. And Ron, it's called the Magikarp. Oh, a Magikarp. Okay. The fish. The fish, yeah. But it came as one piece back in the day. Now with this, they got, okay, side armor. I get what that is. I get it. That's the metal shit. Side armor expression lighting system. Yes. Then they have cabinet expression lighting system. Yes, and then speaker expression lighting system. So does this mean if I want side armor, it's $400. If I want it to light up on the outside of it, it's $250. If I want it to light up on the inside, it's another $300. If I want my speakers to light up, it's $200. And with all that, I don't get the actual art blades because they're another $100. $500. Yes. And in the topper, $1,500. Is that how I'm reading it? So if you wanted just the same kind of lighting system, like before you got the... So to sell on the R-Blades, not with the expression lightings anymore? Nope. Nope. Wow. That's the part that kind of got like, really? You don't get that anymore? Yeah, that's not good. You get nothing. You drank busy lifting drinks and you get nothing. It just seems like a shitload of money just to get the cool look that you have in the video. Well, you know what it is, Ron. You know exactly what it is. What is it? Cash grab! That is true. It is 100% a cash grab, but gosh darn, that's...
    25:49
    It's rough on the old butt cheeks and it's rough on the old asshole. I mean, just forget the speaker lightings. If I just want all the expression lightings I can get, it's two different ones. It's exterior and interior. I assume that's what that means.
    26:05
    And it's $3, $550. Damn. I guess that's one reason you should just get the LE because it just has it. Yeah. Actually, the LE does come with that, right? Yeah, the LE comes with all that shit. If you get an LE. And usually the LEs have specific inside art blades that are different than the other ones. So because it's in L.A., it's special. So you got to see your cash grab line, Bruce. You feel good? I feel redeemed. 40 years of Stern. We got to keep on paying for Gary's liquor.
    26:44
    OK, also on my list, I have Barrels of Fun. They revealed the new Barrels Reserve Collectors Club, or as I call it, the Winchester Insurance Policy is what I call it. Yeah. So to explain this, and this is really fucked up. Well, no. Yes, it is. David Van Ness explained this on Pinside, and we can use Winchester as the example. Example. Okay, so what this is, you pay $75 a year, and it gives you dibs for seven days. Seven days after a game sells out, you can still get it if you're a member of this club. So, in other words, that 525 Winchester, when they revealed it, I think the Monday of Expo Week, Like, probably thinking that it wasn't going to sell a lot, and if they bring it to Expo, people will play it, and maybe they can sell some more. Instead, it sold out in, like, 28 hours. So by the time you got to Expo, you were already screwed. But with this new program, you wouldn't have been screwed because you would have had seven days from, say, Tuesday when it sold out to still buy this thing. And then you could have played it at Expo and said, hell, I want this. Okay, but I got a problem with this. Okay. You announced that the game is being released for 525 numbers. Yep.
    28:20
    And seven days after, people can still buy this game. Mm-hmm. So the number is really not 525. No, it's not. No, that's the problem. Yeah, they even used an example. It was like 200 people ordered it in that seven-day period. If 200 people ordered it, you now have a 725. 725 games, yeah.
    28:38
    Do you see the problem with this? You can't do that. Yeah. So neither of you are on board? No. Okay. Yeah.
    28:49
    They should just make the amount of games they can sell. Exactly. Don't limit it. Don't limit any game. It's very stupid.
    28:59
    Oh, really? It's stupid? So you think Winchester would have sold a 525 if it wasn't limited, if it just came out there? No, because guess what? People would have played at an expo and they probably would have sold a thousand. And they would have shit in your pants like you did and then they would have bought a thousand. Okay. Yes, that would have been. And then they would have made more money instead of limiting it. They burned themselves by limiting that game. So you say no more LEs. Screw it. No, I didn't say that. Did I say that? You can do LEs. Make the LEs limited. Exactly. Don't make the regular production games. Standard production games unlimited. Yes. Yes, if you wanted to make it special, 200 games LE for Winchester, and then you sell the rest out. You sell as many as you can for six months. If that game went to Expo, it would have sold 1,000 games if there were 1,000 available. It's funny. They said 525 because they figured it wouldn't sell, and then it did. They realized they left all the money on the table. So now with this new program trying to basically do an insurance policy so it doesn't happen again, you piss people off anyway. Yeah, and you piss them off even more because you have to pay. Yeah, you're going to piss people off. Well, you pay now $75 to have a chance. The next game can be a lemon.
    30:16
    Well, it could be, you know, Lawrence Welk's Greatest Hits or something. And you're like, no, I don't want that. Buy that in a second, baby.
    30:24
    Didn't Spooky do something like this a while back? Yes, that was the club, the Spooky. The blood, the fang, whatever. Fang club. And then Stron had their version, not quite the same. Well, they still do it. They still do it with the LEs. Yeah. But they don't increase the number of LEs. They take a certain ones and they release, you know, they pull them away from that. What happens if they did something like anyone who got the extra ones, maybe the original, like the first, the 525 had a back glass, but the ones after that just have a trans light. You get like something a little different. Like only the first 525 get the full Monty or whatever. No, what they should be doing is this. Hey, we reserve 50 games on the side.
    31:05
    If you're in this club, after the game sells out, so now it's $4.75 the total, the 50 games will sell out afterwards. If it doesn't, we burned ourselves twice. In other words, don't limit the game.
    31:20
    Plain it simple. Well, we'll be talking about this when we're talking about Jersey Jack because they're going with your policy with not limiting the game. Ashcraft! Oh, Jesus.
    31:30
    Yeah, they're not even limited, the limited editions. I know. Yes. Well, they're not called that. They're called Special now. Special. A collectors edition, yeah.
    31:41
    I'm Special, all right. Well, we'll get into that. We'll get into that. I want to talk actually about Toten first. Okay. Neither of you are fans. Not fans. No, no, not at all. This is a terrible decision. Okay. This is just a knee-jerk decision that was really not thought through. Yeah, I don't know if it's a terrible decision. It's just not something I would buy into. It's the Winchester reaction. Yeah, it's a knee jerk. It's basically what it is. Yeah, yeah. It's trying to make it so it doesn't happen again. Sell the game as much as you can for six months. Okay. It's not that hard. You've had a couple of good hits. Keep selling them. Yep. All right. Bruce, the Bruce has spoken. Okay, it's time for Toten. And we're talking about Tales of the Arabian Nights. So have you guys seen it? Yes, a little bit. What do you think? So Pedretti, we all knew it was going to be this game. But it came out and there's two versions. Yep. A 30th Anniversary Edition and a Legacy Edition. The Anniversary Edition has new art. Yes. 399 limited copies, which are all sold out already to the vendor. They're the distributors. Oh, they are? Yes, they said. They already stated that. No, that's the distributors. The distributors. Yeah. Two different packages. It's got LCD screen, but it's basically showing the dots, like the DMD animations. The DMD animations look awesome. Yes, they do. And they're done by the same crew that did the AFM and Medieval Madness remakes, and it shows. It shows. And a totally different approach with this one. As opposed to the Funhouse 2.0 and all that stuff. This is basically the original code with enhancements, fixes.
    33:36
    Let's see, there's both the original game code 1.0 and enhanced 1.5 code. The original plays exactly like you remember. The 1.5 enhanced code preserves the soul of the game while adding new and colorized DMD display animations, RGB lighting integration, quality of life tweaks, and known bug fixes, probably like lightning lamp. Isn't there some kind of thing with the wizard mode that's broken? Yes. There's a couple things. Okay. It looks good.
    34:07
    Does it look $11,000 or $12,000 good? Oh, yeah, the price is so... Yeah! I forgot about that. Yeah. The limited to 399 units. Why didn't they just say 400? I don't know. The $3.99 sounds more limited, I guess. The anniversary edition of the game is priced at $12,000.
    34:27
    The legacy one is $11,000. That's significantly more than their Funhaus one was. So first, the new one, or the anniversary edition? Anniversary, yeah. What do we think of the art?
    34:43
    The Brian Allen art. I don't mind it. I mean, it's not as creepy as his art usually is. No, it's not usually as creepy as it is, but it's still, I just... And he sexed up the woman. Yeah, that's what everyone wants to see in the day and age. But then the monsters, like, I don't remember that in the Arabian Nights. I don't remember skeletons.
    35:06
    I remember that in Sinbad movies, you know, like the Seven Voyages of Sinbad. The skeletons are in the game also. Really? And Jason and the Argonauts? I just, doesn't do it for me. Doesn't do it for you? Not a huge fan of the art. I mean, he does good stuff, but it's not. He does, but I don't think it was. Yeah. It's not, you know, the $1,000 difference, I would actually get the original looking.
    35:30
    Okay. Because the original art, I always thought the translate was kind of weak on the original one. I like that the eyes, you know, the flashers go off behind the eyes. Behind the eyes? Yes, there's two little cutouts around the eyes. In the back glass. Oh, okay. And actually, when the flash goes off, it glows like his eyes do on the actual genie. Well, the genie, his eyes glow now. They modify the genie, which is, ugh. Well, they make his eyes glow. Yeah, I know.
    36:00
    It looks good. I mean, how will it play? Is it $11,000 good? There you go. That's the one. And I don't trust the company. That's my bigger point. Funhouse sucked. It's a European company, and my only experience with Pedretti is the Alien remake that Zack still owns half of that I got to see. I mean, that was early in their, very early on in that, you know, their construction and all that, but still, just something about having the company out of Europe, it just worries me. Yeah, they don't do. Agreed.
    36:39
    For $11,000, they'll go buy an original. That's true because they're probably that much at this point.
    36:46
    If they made it cheap, if they made it less than that, yes, I would then go for this kind of thing and take a chance. But price this out to a really a beautiful tails for $11,000 you have to find. So guess what? I can find a nice, pretty good one, little play field wear for probably $8,500. And guess what? I got a nicer one and more reliable one than probably for Jetties. And is there a big demand for this game? I mean, this game's okay, but I've never loved this game. No, I sold mine so fast it wasn't even funny. I'd say there's a decent demand for it. It's another one of the Papa Dukes, and it's the one that they made less of than Theater or Magic. Yeah, every one went down after that. It really did. World Cup Soccer, then Tails. Yeah, each of his production went down one after another. Yes, that is true. So would you buy – and it's not even out yet, and we haven't seen anything about it, but American Pinball, Circus Voltaire, would you – you have more confidence in them as the company? Actually, their build quality is pretty good. Yeah, if it was the old American, I would say, yeah, I might consider that. I'm not sure about the new American. It's really a brand-new company.
    38:03
    No one's seen any of the new games yet, I don't think. Like, Dusty Rhodes ain't there, so you never know. You're not getting the American dream. That's right, baby. The American dream of American pinball is no longer there, baby. I've been fired by Ted Turner. He took over the company, baby.
    38:17
    But, um, sorry. If it was the old company, I might consider it, but the new company, I want to see some of their games first. Yes.
    38:28
    Okay. So neither are you in on the new Arabianites? They made 100 Houdinis now, right? The new company made 100 Houdinis. Yeah, actually they made the new Houdini whatever. And I haven't heard Boo about those. That's true. True. Good point. That's true. So is that Boo as in bad or Boo they haven't sold any of them? Well, I'm worried about because they look like they were going to be doing the different software thing. Like they were going to have regular Circus Voltaire and then a Reimagined. And I'm like, oh, God. Yeah. That's the part. Stop with the reimagined. People don't want that. That's a waste of time and money. Can you at least admit that's what Pajretti did right on this one? They did not do the reimagined software thing. It's a new game. It's new whatever like they did with Funhaus. Fixing bugs is great. Fix all the bugs you want, but changing the rules, I'm not a fan of it. That's the issue I have a lot of these kits.
    39:31
    No matter how good or bad they are, it's like I was playing at Pintastic. I was playing the, what is it, Cardona, the Fishtails kit. Oh, yeah, yeah. And it's playing like Barracuda, which I'm like, how the hell did they get rights to this song? I guess they did, which is amazing. The rights to that song must not be overly expensive. But when I'm playing it the whole time, I'm thinking like, you know, I'd rather be playing Fishtails right now. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Instead of Fishtails.
    39:58
    Yeah, I just think for the pricing, I think they price themselves out of the market. You'll get the collectors who never got the chance to own it or want to brand a new in box one, but I think the count's probably going to be under 1,000 easily. Okay. All right. The Bruce has spoken. Well, Chuckles. Chuck has spoken. I'm thinking even 500 units maybe.
    40:24
    I think they'll sell the $399 LEs, and I think they might sell 300 to 400 of the regular standard edition. So you're saying, I still say under 1,000. And that's not good for a company that's trying to make remakes and pay the license to, what's his name out in California? Rick. Yes. Rick at Planetary. Mm-hmm. And they're going up against some heavy competition right now with some of the other manufacturers. Yes, that's true. There's a lot of big titles coming out, and I don't know how much money there's going to be to spend on these games. Yeah, we had Transformers, we got this. Pokemon still kicking ass. Pokemon, yep. Operator standpoint, Sonic is going to do well. Yes, speaking of that, revealed today, Sonic the Pinball from Jersey Jack. Sonic. So who here has seen Sonic? Hopefully you both have seen Sonic. Yeah. Saw a couple videos of it. Now, the trailer was so fast, I could not really tell what was in the game.
    41:36
    It's just like these flybys and it's just so fast. Like, what the hell am I looking at? I feel like, slow down, stop, pause. So I ended up watching Flippin' Out. We mentioned it again. Flippin' Out had a little just five-minute video that was much easier to digest. Yeah, that was a much better video. And it shows everything much more slow so I can actually see what the hell I'm looking at. Yeah. But there's going to be three editions. Yay! So we got the collector's edition, no cap. Basically, they keep selling them, we'll keep making them.
    42:15
    And so Bruce is right on board with that. I am. Yeah, and so is Steve Ritchie. He was on Loser Kid. They interviewed him and he's like, sell the game! Sell the game! I'm here to sell pinball machines! If you want to pay most money, go ahead. Then you had the special edition and then the arcade edition. I'm special. So basically the same as Harry Potter, they just called the middle one a different name. What was it, the Wizard Edition on the Harry Potter, I think? Yeah, it was like the Collectors and then the Wizard and then Arcade. They keep changing that middle one, what they call it. I can't fucking stand that they keep changing it. That's one thing Stern does right, is that they have the Pro Premium LE. It's consistent, it's easy to know. Yeah, they haven't changed the name since 2012, so yeah. Yeah. Then everyone else had to have different names. Pinball Brothers, it's the LV. Like LV. Limited version. Okay. The pricing is the same as Harry Potter, so $15,000 for the collector's edition, $12,000 for the special edition, and $10,000, well, $999. Yeah, so $10,000 for the arcade. Get the paddles on me, boys. Get the paddles on you. I attack. So what do we think of the play field? I'm looking at it here. When I saw it, the first thing I thought of... I think it's great that they copied Pokemon on the bottom. No, I thought it was Pokemon combined with World Poker Tour. Yeah, exactly. That's what it looked like to me. Yeah, I thought World Poker Tour immediately. Like, we don't have games like that since Junkyard, and now we have two. Two in a row, yes. That is pretty funny. I mean, it looked cool. The topper looks cool. But you guys aren't into toppers. But I thought the topper was cool. The topper actually looks good. I will say that. And it's low. It's not that tall either, which I like also. And they move. I like the interactiveness. And it has the screen. And I don't know if you saw it. It was in Zach's video. I'm flipping out. When he slides quick, it's got the trails behind him on the video screen. Oh, that's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. Yeah. And it comes with the machine. Yes. Wow, what a novel idea.
    44:34
    When you pay $5,000 more for it, I hope it does. Yeah, $3,000 more. Well, guess what? $5,000 over the arcade, right? That's true. But guess what? If you go to Stern, you're paying $12,500 and you're paying $1,500 for a Transformers one or a blow-off, it looks like. So guess what? I think for the extra $25,000 to $3,000,000. That's a pretty nice topper. And you get the foil artwork. The foil artwork stuff looks really nice.
    45:04
    It looks – I know they used the glitter on Elton John, but this looks even better. And it's on the apron, too. This is on the CD. It's on the apron, too. Oh, it's a big gloss. A tiny sonic. Sonic.
    45:20
    Count the rings while you're running. Dialed Inc. Man, this has a lot of arrows. It has a ton of arrows, the diamonds, the multicolored diamonds. It's almost like people are like, you know you guys keep complaining there's not enough inserts and you don't have stuff on the playfield. Well guess what We going to give you inserts now We going to have so many inserts That going to crack the playfield It going to be like 24 I see that upper clear playfield I just think cloudy Supposedly they clear coating them on both sides They're clear coating the plastic? Yes, the polycarbonate or whatever. That's what I just heard. That should be very interesting. I'm not sure if that's a good idea or not. Yeah.
    46:08
    Supposedly there's eight shots on the upper playfield alone. Yeah, that upper playfield is huge. Yes. It is. Imagine like World Poketro. It's double the size of World Poketro's upper playfield. It's almost like Popeye. Yeah. It really is. We're getting near Faro levels of upper playfield here. Yeah. Actually, maybe not that big. Faro's like humongous upper playfield. It probably is the biggest one of all the bi-level games. I do like in the video when the flippers flip up there, you can see them kind of moving.
    46:40
    I'm really bad with terms now, remembering simple things. A chum, a chum, a chum-chum. Yeah, it's called getting old. The bushing. It's got those big, long metal bushings. Oh, yeah, yeah. Like No Fear had for that one flipper on the top. It's got two of them. So when the flippers flip, you can see the whole thing kind of move. Yeah. So what do you think for the pricing and for would you pay $15,000 for a brand new Sonic? See, Steve's my man. And whenever I hear him, like I heard his interview on Loser Kid and he's talking about the game and he gets me excited about the game. And I haven't even played it yet. But I can't. I just never played. Even though I did play Sonic. I hated Sonic. Actually, that was the last. I hated Sonic. I had my Atari and then I had my NES and that's what I had the most games for. That was my era, the NES, the Nintendo Entertainment System. But near the tail end of it, I got a Sega Genesis and it came with the Sonic game.
    47:43
    And I played it a little bit, but that was about it. I was a little too old for Sonic. I never played Sonic as a kid. Me too. Oh, are you saying I'm younger than both of you? Yes! Yes, we are. I love it.
    47:57
    All right. The game looks good. No question. Yeah, it looks good, but would you pay $15,000 for this game?
    48:05
    I would not. See, if you asked me that, like, would you pay $12,000 for Elton John? I'd be like, no way. And then here we are. I would. Yeah, that's true. I would love to get a $12,000. Elton John would be more likely to do it. Yes. The music's more, I feel more in touch with that game.
    48:22
    All the different wonderful, yeah, I should do some voiceovers here. Game features, upper playfield. Oh, Ritchie's signature from all the way back on Black Knight. Okay, that's assuming people know what that is. That's in their press release? I guess so. Like when they mention previous games. People are like, what's Black Knight? I don't know what that is. It's made from clear plastic, allowing complete visibility. That can't be, okay. I'm at NAP Arcade. He either copied it wrong or maybe he wrote that himself. I don't think so. These look like they're copied from somewhere else. Visibility. Visibility of the lower playfield. The upper playfield has its own two flippers set at different angles. So our Zach would probably like that part. He likes weird. He likes offset stuff. Yeah, he likes offset weird fucking shit. Okay. So he'd probably like that. I think he likes upper playfields too. So the Dr. Eggman bash toy. Is it actually a bash toy? I mean, I couldn't tell in the video. Yeah, I couldn't tell in the video, but supposedly the ball hits it. It moves around. It's got a turn thing like Sonic had. The ball goes around in a loop. It's got a thing where the magnet catches it and it revs it up, revs the ball up and then fires it around. That was kind of cool. That sounds cool. Although it really is just a kickback. It was right back to the flippers, which I would like to see it do a little bit more than that. Let's see.
    49:51
    Collector's Edition exclusive features include a mechanical electronic topper spanning the full backbox. Yeah, the whole screen is the full backbox, too. Yeah. Sonic and Eggman toys that move, turn, face each other, and chase, backed by a long, thin, animated display.
    50:09
    A shaker motor, gold ring shooter knob, and a glitter lower arch decal. Wait a minute. A shaker motor is under the exclusive feature. Wait a minute. So the other one doesn't come with a shaker motor?
    50:21
    Oh. I think my own John has one. I turned it off, but I believe it has one. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it has one. Yeah.
    50:30
    Do you have the, which version of LTV? I have the Platinum. Okay, that's what I have. The middle one, what they call Platinum. Yeah. And then they went back to LE for Avatar, which confused people like, oh, wait a minute, I thought we were getting rid of that name and they were going to be called Platinum now. No, we could just call it Platinum because Platinum Album and the music theme. Oh, okay. And then Harry Potter came out and was the wizard. Okay, so it's a different name again. Yeah, again, stick to one naming structure. Yeah. I can't wait to play. There's actually going to be one here locally. Nice. Believe it or not. Yeah, my buddy Mitch is getting one, so I'll have one available to play. Well, he has one on order. I shouldn't say he's getting one yet. He has it on order.
    51:13
    We'll see if he actually takes delivery. Now, from an operator standpoint, I want to see under a play field and see some of the issues, see if they resolve some of the issues they've had in past games. I hate the USB-C cables they use on these games. Yes, because they fall off. They fall off, and from an operator standpoint, they flash a big warning on the screen saying, lamp board error. And every time that flashes, someone calls and says the game's broken, even though it's just a couple lights that aren't working all the time. Drives me nuts. Yep, that happened on my Elton John. That's a home-use-only game. My skill shot lights just weren't working.
    51:49
    Okay, so I just – it didn't even – it wasn't even out like hanging there. I just kind of pulled it and shoved it back in, and we're back. Yep. I've replaced a couple cables of mine, and that seemed to have helped a little bit. And then I had one port actually break off a lamp board, but Jersi Jack warrantied that. That was a long time ago, though. Now, didn't they use Ethernet before, just like Stern does at some point? I don't recall. I didn't have, I thought they did. Yeah, I think they, before the USB, they used just, it was like the Stern ones. Yeah. Those Ethernet cables, and then they went to the USB. I don't know why, because they fall out. They fall out, and yeah, and the cables, the little tiny pins on those cables get, you know, they get damaged, and they just don't make good connections. Issues with Jersey Jack, the cables that fall out and the whole motherboard battery dying stuff and you have to jump through the game to get it back and all that other stuff. And I have the worst game for that as far as the biggest pain he has to get, which is dialed in. Because of the extra screen, when the battery dies and it won't boot up right because it has an extra video card in it. Got it. And it gets confused. Like you have to basically unhook that video card to get into the screen, to get into the BIOS, change the video card setting.
    53:13
    I wrote it down somewhere. For when I have to do it again. Now, can you change that before the battery dies and will it save the settings? Yes. You have to do it with the game on, though, and it's a pain in the ass. At least for me, it was a pain in the ass trying to get the battery out. Me and Chuck are talking shop. This is like the repair section because Bruce muted himself. I think he's off. It's got the contract as a contract as air conditioners. Like right now, I have a ticket open with Stern for my Rush, which I mentioned the last episode. My up, down, and clock are dead. The board did not fry like they typically do. Like the chip is not, it looks pristine, but it just doesn't work anymore. Even though it passes, LEDs are on, it passes all the no tests. Yes. So but then I read some more on the Pinside thread like, yeah, that they just die. So, OK, so I opened a ticket with them. Finally took a while. I actually opened it last week.
    54:12
    And I even mentioned like the Pinside or at least some guys on Pinside when they gave them a new board, they have the part number like this is what they gave me is a replacement board there. It's an upgraded. It's not the same part number as the board that's in there. So they answered back like, oh, this is the current replacement board and it's a completely different part number I've never seen or heard of. It doesn't come up anywhere at any of the part suppliers.
    54:38
    So I'm thinking either it's that brand new or it's wrong. Yeah. But they're basically said, if you can't find this anywhere, you'll contact your distributor or retailer and they can order for you from us. Like, okay. Okay, so I have, I emailed Flippin' Out and I'm waiting to hear back from them on that. Because I'm not surprised if Flippin' Out comes back and says, we've never seen that before, we have no idea what this is. I would not be surprised. Yeah, I've had some issues like that recently with some node boards. Not quite the same thing. Yeah, the funny thing is I was watching a stream from New York City over the weekend. They had a little tournament and they played Rush and it was a premium. And I noticed immediately the clock didn't work. And I noticed the up-down ramp never went down. Like it was always up. It was always locked up, yeah. So I'm thinking like how do you do that? I remember that being a thing and people had tips on how to do that. Because it won't just stay up. And you can't just, like the motor, it just spins freely when it's not. Normally the game actually has the motor energized and engaged to keep the ramp up.
    55:50
    So you'd have to somehow, I don't know. If you disconnected the wires when the ramp was up, it would still come down? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, because the motor, you can spin it with your fingers. It doesn't lock. It's not like that kind of motor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the weight of a, it's enough that it just comes down. I know my Star Wars, Sphere of the Empire, I had a similar issue where I had to keep the ramp locked up in place, but I was able to do that. Yeah, I can't really do that here. It won't stay up. It just will fall down over. At first I thought maybe the motor was – I checked my other motor because I replaced the motor with the motor. The motor was the issue that kept blowing the Note 10 board because the connectors on it were shit, I guess, or done wrong. So they had a kit where you got a new motor and the connector just went directly to the node board. So there was no extra connector in the middle. So that's what I have in there. But I still have my old motor and I checked that. No, that's super loose. Like you can just move it with your fingers. So there's got to be a way, put bracing on there or something to keep it in the up position. Yeah, just get some duct tape and tape it up.
    56:59
    You probably could do that. Yeah, you could tape it up. There was an arcade near me up at Hampton Beach once. I went to it. They had an Addams Family, and the ramp on the Addams Family just beat the shit. And they actually made a ramp out of duct tape for it. This is a beach arcade. It was pretty sad.
    57:20
    Well, I know my World Cup Soccer, the ramps just had tape all over them. They're just all taped up. Yeah. See, that's a game they should remake. I'd buy a World Cup Soccer. I know you can get them. Yeah, they sold a lot of them, though. That's the problem. Yeah, that's the issue. Yeah. But an updated version of that, that would be pretty nice. Although, like you said, they made a lot. Out of all the friggin' Papa Duke games, that's the one that's never going to get treated. Probably not.
    57:53
    Or if they made a remastered version of it, you know, new art. I'm not sure what else they could do, but just... Update it for current players. Yeah. Like it's got Messi in there or something, I don't know. Get Tim Kitzrow. He's usually available. He can just do the costs again. What a goal by Messi! Oh, my God! You know, he could totally do that.
    58:14
    I mean, he sounds the same. His voice hasn't changed in 40 years. Yeah, but like I say, give it the remastered treatment. Get an LCD screen for it, new art. That might sell. Maybe. What do you, our listeners, think? Do you think it would sell? Let's see. Well, since we're talking about, let's see. What else? Evil Dead. Evil Dead. You got an Evil Dead, didn't you? Yes. And the thing that drives me nuts about Evil Dead is the skill shot does not, it's not consistent. And it hasn't been on any Evil Dead I played. And I'm starting to think it's just a basic design flaw. It comes out, it's basically, I call it the Terminator 2 skill shot because that's the first time I've seen it and a lot of other games use it, like Lethal Weapon 3 uses it, where you fire it and it hits the targets on the left and it never hits the same one, ever. So no matter how you plunge, if you plunge, full plunge all the time. Well, it's not a plunge, it's a button. Oh, that's right, it's a button. It just fires it, so it should hit the same one every time, you know, like T2 does. It's not one of those buttons where you hold in this set up all the time and change the strength. Okay, some of those. No. So I have to look at it. I think it goes partially airborne. It hits the plastic that covers it and doesn't come out clean every time. But I don't know if I'm going to be able to fix that. I think it's just the way it is. Some things will never change.
    59:47
    So what's the contract to screw up, Bruce? Nothing, nothing. He got it working. All right. Very good. We were talking repairs. We actually went to the repairs section. Wow. Yeah. Do you have any repairs, Bruce? Oh, I have a ton of fucking repairs. Are they all at the Rochester Pinball Collective? Where is that, Chuck? Oh.
    60:07
    He's been there. I've been there a bunch of times. I can't remember the address. 349 West Commercial Street in beautiful Rochester, New York. East Rochester, yes. Sweet. Sweet Rochester. E-Suite 2965. What's the bathroom code? That's the important part.
    60:26
    342? 3492. That was close. So, repairs. First, S.T.A.R.S. Oh, no. Yes, S.T.A.R.S. went down. Oh, no. I have a Weebly board, and I've had so many problems with this driver board Weebly board. Hmm.
    60:47
    First time. Good luck with that. And I've had very good luck with them, except for this one. Ah, it doesn't like your stars. No, it just doesn't like – the capacitors probably were all junk when he put this together.
    60:59
    The pre-drive capacitors, they all short out. And when they short out, it locks on the coil. So what I did, I cut all the capacitors off, replaced the coil, and guess what? The transistor was still good. It just shorts the capacitor. Shorts the capacitor, okay. Yes, the capacitor just shorts out. Yes, totally different. I've never seen it. I've had four fail on this board.
    61:26
    Zach's like, just cut the capacitor out. Who cares? Cut the capacitor out. The transistor was still good. Replace the coil. Worked fine.
    61:34
    You would think the transistor would smoke. It blew the fuse and everything underneath the playfield.
    61:40
    Popped it right back in. Transistor was good. New coil. It will actually work without the capacitor, though? Yes. Okay. It's just a filtering one. That's all it is.
    61:53
    Second, so everyone knows about my fun Batman rotisserie. Oh, God, again? Well, no, it's still there. I've never gotten to the coil bracket that broke. It's just not worth it. It is. And guess what? I fixed all the fucking bugs in it. It took me four hours. Okay. But I took it all apart, got down to the board, replaced the bracket, put it all back together, and it still wasn't working right. I'm like, what the fuck's going on here? Well, the white piece that the motorcycle's on, there's an opto brake on that board, on the white, I forget what they call it, the Geneva. The Geneva connection? The Geneva switches? Yes, and what they does, it breaks underneath. The actual metal piece that breaks through the optos moved. So I had to put it back in proper where it was, lock it down even tighter, and guess what? It all fucking works. The way it should. Holy fuck. Now you're ready to sell it. Nope. Going back on the floor in a few days. No. I traded my Bat-Mix. I get tired of working on the rotisserie, and mine wasn't even that problematic. Oh, I've had so many problems with this fucking thing.
    63:09
    But I like the game too much. It's a great game. It is a good game. Gomez fucking over-designed it. He over-designed it. Yeah, way over-designed it. What else have I fixed so far besides that? There's a couple switches.
    63:27
    Other than that, little stuff. But those were the two biggies. Okay. I haven't been there much with my other life problems. Your other fun? Yeah. So you didn't hear my Rush story? Rush? I love Rush 2049. What are you talking about? I did eventually open a ticket with Stern on the board, and they gave me a replacement part number and said, my retailer or distributor can get this for me if I can't find it anywhere. Well, yeah, I couldn't find it anywhere. Like, I've never heard of this part number before. I think it's the wrong part number. Great. I even look back to make sure I explain this all correctly. Like, this board is dead. It's this part number. This is the board that's dead.
    64:14
    What replaces it? A Tom, a Timmy Tom, Tom. Uh-huh. Okay. Yeah, they're not the support ever since. It's not been the best. They only hired somebody, like, from Rochester. Oh, if they only hired? If they only hired two people for Rochester, me and Zach. Oh, God. Their service apartment would be awesome. He would just hang up on anybody. Well, actually, he would never allow anyone to call him. Yeah, he wouldn't answer.
    64:43
    I've actually had pretty good luck with them. Anytime I've had an issue, they've been pretty responsive. Yeah, they were responsive. But they're not the best. They're not the best. Okay. They lost a lot of data. They lost a lot of data? Oh, they were hacked? No, I'm talking about when, what's his name, passed away. Oh. Chaz. Yeah, when Chaz passed away, he just had so much knowledge in that company.
    65:09
    And now it's, oof, gone, like the butterflies in the wind. I sent you guys a picture. Oh my. In Messenger. I saw this on Facebook, and I thought this was a really cool story.
    65:24
    I'll wait till you guys get it up. I see it. I see it now. Yeah, yeah. So what this is, is somebody had, they had a barn find. They found a Superman, Atari Superman in a barn. It was in good shape. So they bought it. And when they opened up the, this actually might be before they bought, when they were looking at it, they opened up the insert panel. And on the back of the insert panel, there was all these signatures. Yes. And they're all from the factory workers, the factory crew. Yes, the last day, the last day of 8-22-79. And it was, this was probably, if not the last, one of the last games off the line at Atari Pinball before they shut down. And it's the same date on all of them, all the signatures, 8-22, August 22nd, 1979.
    66:14
    And all the employees, if they had been there, they put like their start day with Atari Pinball. Like the, I can't read his last name, Jeff, the QA supervisor, he started September 6, 1977 to 822.79. So all these people were getting laid off. That was the other thing when they closed down.
    66:37
    But I just thought that was really cool, their names. And because it's in the back, like there's no fate. These look like they were written yesterday. Yeah. Well, they didn't run that much anyway, these Superman things.
    66:51
    Are you kidding? It was one of the more reliable games. They figured it out right at the end. They did figure it out right at the end. They did. You know, the score should probably be in the back box, not in the apron. And the board should be in the back box instead of underneath. Not underneath where things could fall on them. Yeah. Yep. But I thought that was cool. That is. I hope the guy bought the game. Oh yeah, he did. He did. Okay, good. But everyone's like, don't touch it. Preserve it forever.
    67:22
    Because yeah, this could very well be one, if not one of the last, maybe even the last game off the line. It probably is last one. I bet it's the last game. Yeah, because that's what they used to do with cars also. Everyone signed the car.
    67:33
    I wonder if they did that at Williams. They did. Well, they kind of did with the, what was it, episode one. Episode one. But I think the very last one went into Castro, so I don't know if they signed it. They might have. I thought there was a picture of someone taking a shit or pissing in the game or something.
    67:52
    I'm not kidding. I think I remember seeing that somewhere. Dookie. Why does my game smell weird? I don't know, Neil. They still left it in the box. It says that new game smell. The new game of shit. Wow, my goodie bag looks different. Yes, it's a doody bag. It's a doody bag.
    68:17
    Games are funny with their smells from wherever they've been. Oh, yeah. I had a game from Rock Fantasy, my new game from Rock Fantasy, and I swear for five years it smelled like incense. It just had that Rock Fantasy incense smell. Incense and some other things there Yeah the other stuff too Actually my meat ear is from Rock Fantasy and it smells fine Okay Yeah mine definitely had a heavy incense smell to it Incense and peppermint scent.
    68:50
    Are you ready for the ball bag? Is everyone ready for the ball bag? I'm always ready for the ball bag. Sure. Okay. All right. Hold my ball bag. No.
    69:02
    Ew. Ha ha ha! Okay. This is from John. The subject is, it's got to be for you, Bruce. Gamma-tron. Question for Bruce. How many Gamma-trons do you own? I've owned three in my life. I own two right now. You own two right now. Okay, that goes to the next question. Will you sell me one?
    69:29
    You're on crack, son. I've only sold one. And that one sold literally on eBay for, no it wasn't eBay, it was Pinside. It was up for four minutes and I had nine people emailing me like right away like, oh my god, I'm like holy shit. Okay, if not, what versions should I look out for? There appear to be several. I thought there was just two. There's just two. There's the Sonic and then there's the Game of Thrones. Yeah, there's the kit, and it could be put in a variety of different old Bally games. Maybe that's why it would look different. You know, the cabinet might be different or whatever, but there's the kit. And then there's the, isn't the Sonic one? The Sonic one's not a kit. No, the Sonic one is from Saguza. Yeah, but it's not a kit. It's like an actual. No, no, it's a full. They bought the rights after. Which is the one Bruce probably wants really bad. Oh, yeah, baby. Because the art is so much better on that one. It's got the big robot on it. Yeah, the one you have, the collective, that's a conversion, right? Yes, that was actually a Lost World, which is no Lost World. Oh, that is no Lost at all. I like Lost World. No. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Let's have a discussion here. Yeah, gosh. Friends don't let friends play Lost World. That was a game I grew up on, so I like that. I see, but guess what? That went to when you were 18 and 20 years old. I totally agree. That's a great game. But now, no. I could see. You didn't know any better, but now you do. Well, it was a game I could just play forever because it was easy to get free games on it. That was my attraction to Lost World. I can agree with that one. Yeah, no, I got my second one. I picked it up at Allentown. I grabbed it. It's a project, but I can get this puppy going. I can make it so new. But would you sell it to John if you got it going? It's got a nicer play field than the one of the collective. Oh, so probably not. Probably not. Do you know how many of those kits were made? They said 350. Okay. That was what I heard. At least we can get John some information. They made 350 kits, so.
    71:35
    And it seems like there's a lot of kits still out there, so I think there's probably like another five or six still floating around. Now, by kits, do you mean it's like in a crate or something and not installed yet? Yeah, one person found two at a distributor a couple years ago. There you go. So they're out there still. So they're still out there, John. Maybe you can find one someday.
    71:55
    Don't stop believing. Going to a show like Allentown, that would be a good way to try to find one because there was one just sitting there. Yeah, that's how we bought our first one. And then the second one I bought from Mike Fresca.
    72:11
    And that was the second one I bought and then sold. And then I bought this next one. And this one I bought from Coin Up Warehouse. Okay. I bought that one for $500. They're in Pennsylvania?
    72:26
    No, they're in Maryland. Oh, yeah, Maryland. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Okay. Yeah, I bought that for $500.
    72:34
    All right. Next mail is from Clive. Subject, this is almost certainly very old news. Okay. But just in case, and it's a link, so you'd have to click on it. I'll let you click on it. Oh, let me click on it. Best wishes from a long-time listener, and thank you. Well, thank you, Clyde.
    72:54
    Let's see what it is. It is... Herpes! Validating my browser. You have been infected with the so-and-so virus. Herpes!
    73:03
    No, I actually did read this already. This is another Beavis and Butthead homebrew game. Yes. And I think it's a re-theme, if I remember. But I thoroughly support – oh, yeah, that's right. It was a Shrek.
    73:22
    Is it – which that's all for that. Yes, get rid of the Shrek and make it Beavis and Butthead. 100% I am on board.
    73:31
    I'm trying to think what the upper play field would be, like Burger World. That'd be cool. So, yeah, I think this is going to be – yeah, re-themed Beavis and Butthead.
    73:41
    Read this more before I did this. Do you see what I have to deal with Chuck? Chuck, do you see what I have to deal with? No, Chuck Sola, I have to deal with Bruce trying to reschedule this last second after. Well, because the guy said I can come tonight between 5 and 7.
    73:59
    Tonight he said that yesterday. They miss the contractors. Oh, Jesus Christ. Ron never has a problem at his house because he's only got a refrigerator.
    74:09
    Do you use your stove? No, I do not. I just like the fact that when I left my coffee cup at Ron's house, I have my travel mug. It stayed on its counter for the entire length of COVID, never moved. Yep. Nope. Yep. Nope. I have a collection of cups from previous events that no one has claimed. I'm up to like five of them now. I believe it. It's kind of ridiculous. Five cups and a watch. A watch? Yeah, somebody's watch. Like, okay.
    74:38
    Actually, yeah, this is looking pretty cool. Someone needs to do a real Beavers and Butthead game. I agree. I can't imagine a licensing is that much for it. No, but nobody wants it. I'm looking to count Van Dreesen sitting on top of the mug that you can hit.
    74:59
    I will definitely play this somewhere, wherever it is. And we will give it our thumbs up. It'll probably be at Expo or Texas or one of them. So to answer Clive, no, actually I hadn't seen that before your email. Thank you. So thank you.
    75:15
    What the hell's going on? God damn it. I'm completely out of golf balls. I lost every damn one. I just watched that yesterday. What are you doing back here? I'll tell you, I felt like a one-legged cat trying to bury turds on a whatever else. Like what?
    75:34
    Oh my God. All right. Last one. You can still buy a collector's edition Elton John. Really? Yes. Yeah. See, I wish I had that topper, but I like the art on the platinum better, so I wish you could combine. Yeah, I know. But you can still get one for $12,000. Oh, $3,000 off.
    75:57
    All right. That's really good. And you get the sparkle play field in that too, right? Exactly, yeah. And the RGB insert lights. Or the color-changing RGB. Well, yeah, obviously color-changing RGB. And I could be a superstar. Superstar. So the next email is from the bastard son of Pinbot. Uh-oh. Remember him? He's been gone for a while. He's returned.
    76:23
    Howdy, partners. No, I'm not going to do that. Your old pal, bastard son of Pinbot here. Haven't sent you a mail ball bag in a while. I figured I'd just check in and you all know, I'm not dead. Speaking of balls, I have a trivia game for you both. Oh no. Only three pinball related questions, but I figured it would be fun to see who knows balls the best. Oh, Chuck can join in too. Who knows the most, Bruce or Ron or Chuck? Let's see, Ron has a pinball history podcast. Yes, it's called Silver Ball Chronicles. Our latest episode was just released on John Trudeau. So check that out.
    77:06
    Yes. Okay. It says I should know all of these because I have – okay. And Bruce probably has worked on all of these games. What? So he has no excuse. Oh, he means fixing. Also, Bruce, stop being a fanboy for both Winchester and Flippin' Out Pinball. I'm so disappointed in you. Thank you. He called it Westchester, by the way. Westchester, New York. I'm a snobbish person.
    77:32
    All right. Question one, exit only. Ooh. Okay. There was a lot of controversy when it was revealed that Jaws didn't eat the ball. However, there were some notable DMD era games that had molded faces that also didn't eat the ball, merely spitting the ball out. Name two DMD games that have the ball exiting out of a mouth only, not going in it as well.
    77:57
    So Rudy and Ted and Red, they're out. And so is Gene. Yep. No, not Gene. No, Gene, you can shoot the ball in and spit it out. No, but it's not in his mouth, though. It's below him.
    78:13
    Right? You don't shoot it in his mouth. No, that's actually true. Yeah, because his tongue sticks out. Because his tongue sticks out. Yeah, it sticks out. You shoot it underneath him. Yeah. And then he spit it out. So Gene's won. So that's Gene Simmons from The Greatest Game Ever Made, Kiss.
    78:29
    I do like Kiss. That's a good game. I like KISS. You know, I have to. I own the game. I own the game, and I make money from it. Okay, what's the second one?
    78:40
    It's probably something really easy, but I can't think of what it is. It's this DMD era, too, so I can't say, like, I was going to say something like Grand Lizard, because you hit it up the ramp, and it kind of comes out from underneath the lizard's mouth, tongue thing. It's a DMD era. But it's DMD era. I'm trying to just think what games have heads. Mad.
    79:03
    Mad, that was never made. No fear? No. He doesn't spit the ball out. That would be difficult. I know. That's what I'm saying. I'm just thinking about heads. Oh, we have some answers here. And? All I can think of are Gottlieb's. Oh, Freddy. Oh, yeah. Oh, God. That's why we didn't think of it. And Sega Godzilla.
    79:27
    Okay, yep. Sega. I say kiss. Let's see. Without including prototype models, how many ceramic balls total have been used in Stern pinball machines? Oh, God. No, Avatar.
    79:42
    Rolling Stones LE. Yep. I think that's it. Super Night Driving? No. Stern. That's a Sega. Yeah. It seems like there's another, though. I just, oh, it's only two. You think it's only two? Yep.
    80:01
    Chuck? Let's see. I don't know of any of us. He says, answer, Avatar LE and Rolling Stones LE. Yeah. All right. Oh, and he mentioned Piper Night Driving.
    80:16
    We were on the same page there. Okay. One weird shaped ball. We all know that Bally Truck Stop is the only game with one-inch balls due to Bally having ramps that weren't thoroughly tested, but which is the only game that features a one-inch captive ball? A one-inch captive ball?
    80:36
    Godzilla? Like, is that weird magnet ball an inch? Maybe? I'll say that. That'll be my guess. Yeah, I have no clue.
    80:48
    Bruce? Maybe Guns N' Roses. The original? The captive ball that's up top. Oh, okay, okay. Let's see what we got.
    80:59
    Rescue 911. Okay. Oh, God, that game is at the Rochester Pinball Collective. Yes. Those were good bastards, son of pinball. You suck, moose balls.
    81:15
    Okay. And the ball bag is empty. People need to send more emails. Always need to send more emails. I'm sure a lot of people out there know Matt Gay. He's going through some rough times right now with his health. He's essentially looking for a kidney. So if anyone wants to give up a kidney, contact Matt Gay. We posted his story on Slam Tilt on the Facebook page, and he's a great person. Yeah, Matt's great. I see him every Friday night at League. He shouldn't suffer like this, and he sounds like he's really struggling.
    81:51
    And if you can, please do. If you're able to and you would like to do that, please get tested. It's not a bad test. It's a very easy test. Actually, removing a kidney is easier than getting another kidney. So if you can do this, I can't, unfortunately. I'm ineligible. Everyone should just consider making sure they're an organ donor. So if something happens. Yes, I am for just for – they can use my body for science since the cancer. If anyone just signed up as an organ donor, I mean hopefully – not hopefully, someone will die and be able to pass a kidney along. But ultimately it would be best if it was from a donor body. But, yeah, Matt's in great spirit. I see him every Friday night at League. He's on home dialysis right now, and he's doing good. But he's going to need a kidney down the road. So, like I say, make sure to sign up as an organ donor. If you have any inclination and you want to be a living donor, definitely get tested and get evaluated for what type of blood you have and all that. I'm not sure of the medical stuff on it. Yeah. Yeah, like I say, Matt's a great guy. He's been going through this for a little while now. He hasn't talked about it until just recently. Like I say, I just want to look out for Matt. Yeah, we wish him all the best. You know, we really, you know, he's always come to stomps and he's a great person. He's one of the first people I remember from when I started trekking out in the New England area pinball tournaments. Yeah, he's been around forever. Forever. He's been around the JR tournaments. That's the first thing. Yeah, that's why I saw him like probably one of the first pin mania or whatever. Yeah. It's like even the last stomp, I was hoping Matt was going to be able to make it, but obviously he couldn't. Not at this time. Matt, we're all with you. Yeah, you know, in spirits and, you know, if you need to, you need anything from us, just yell out. Ron's got a lot of money and he's close to you, so he'll help me to help out. Don't.
    83:48
    Wow. If someone wants to donate a kidney, I will give them a Stern Premium game of their choice. Wow, there you go. There's a cash incentive for somebody. If they want to give up a kidney, like I say, I'll give, I'll personally give them a Stern Premium game. Wow. Nice. Wow. And that's, that's short money. Matt's awesome. Yeah, Matt's a great guy. And you would have the everlasting love of the Slam Till podcast. I will say one other thing about Matt. He's been talking to his doctor, and he's basically got the okay to do the 24-hour tournament. So he's going to be a 24-hour. Oh, wow. That's excellent. He's got to work up to it, but he plans on being there. That is hardcore. He doesn't want to miss a streak. Yes. Oh, so if you're like, oh, I don't think I can do it. Don't. Come on. Look at this guy. Come on. Exactly. Come on, man up. Let's go. And Matt's excuse to his wife is that Chuck can do it. He's an old guy. If Chuck can do it, I can do it.
    84:49
    All right. Guys got anything else? Chuck, you got anything else? Any excitement in the New England pinball scene? No, it's just everything's going well. The New England Pinball League is still growing. We have about 500 players in it right now. Still the biggest league in the universe. Still the biggest league by far in the universe. Yes. And we hope to expand some more. We have new locations coming on every season now, and it's been great. We have so many home locations that have come on board, and we have new arcades opening up or new breweries. It's been great. As I say, more pinball, the better. And then we have the 24-hour coming up too, which is July 11th. Looking for the vet. July 11th. July 11th for registration. Yes. And we decided to do registration instead of a lottery this time because we had no idea how many people were going to get. The lottery just seemed like it was a bit of a reach at the time. So we'll go back to the fastest finger. The fastest finger. Oh, my. Is it thinky? Is it a think finger?
    85:56
    Oh, okay. Oh, yeah, baby. All right. Well, you got anything else, Bruce? Nope. Nothing else you want to bring up? Nope, not at all. I think this has been an action-packed episode. It has been. Uh-huh. I already did my plug, and I'm not allowed to do it a second time, so we know the rules. So this has been episode 270, and we are the Slamtel Podcast. You can check out our website, www.slamtelpodcast.com. Please send us an email to our ball bag at slamtillpodcast at gmail.com. See, and if Chuck can get on, anyone can get on. Oh, yeah, we still, well, we have, I still have my list. You know, and the thing is, I try to get this stuff taken care of early, and then Bruce changes plans and everything goes to shit. You see? And you'll be taken care of. Trust me, Ron, you know my schedule this past three months. You have no schedule. It's all over the place. It is all over the fucking place. It's all over the place. I spent more time in New Jersey the past month than I spent in the past five years. Oh, and you live there. I used to live there, but not last month. That sucks. Wow.
    87:09
    You will not be doing endorsements for New Jersey, I guess. I will be doing it for Fuddruckers because I love Fuddruckers. There's still two of them down there. Bruce, I'm just impressed that you actually worked at Action Park. Oh, I loved Action Park. Yeah. I worked at Action Park from 14 to 18. That's impressive. I loved it. So you injured countless patrons. Yes, I did. I was in Motor World.
    87:33
    I was on the go-karts and the tanks and the odysseys. For those who don't know, Action Park was the notorious New Jersey park where people just got hurt constantly. Oh, yeah. Accident Park, it was called. Or Traction Park. Yes. Traction Park. Jesus Christ. What was the name of the movie? It was a Class Action Park. Was that it? Yes, Class Action Park. But yeah, it was great. When I grew up there, I was in town. All of us worked there during the summer, and in the winter we'd work late. It was really cool. What was also great is having Chuck on. Thank you, Chuck. Yes, Chuck. Thanks for having me, guys. Oh, we love having you. Welcome back. So we'll see you in another eight years. Another eight years.
    88:14
    Well, I'll see you probably in September is my guess. I'm going to try to get into the stop. Yes, you will. Ah, yes. See? As long as I can get there, as long as I can get permission from the wife, I'll be there. Yes.
    88:25
    Excelente. And it's close to you. And it's close to you, too. Yeah, it's not a bad drive. Like two and a half hours or so. Yep. That's a good drive. By the time we get to our... Yeah, that's true. By the time we get to our next episode, it's going to be ten years, probably, Bruce.
    88:41
    And it's already ten years, isn't it? No, no. I thought it was June. June, I think, is when we decided to do it. We didn't start. I think June was the Pintastic where we got our pictures, you know, that caricature thing. I don't think so. No, I got it right here in front of me. I'm right at our website, www.slamtillpodcast.com. Yeah. Our first episode was July. Do you remember the title? What's the title of our first episode? Do you remember? Introductions. Hello, world. And it was July 14th, 2016. Oh, we'll be on before then. Oh, you think so? Yeah, two weeks. I like this. This was introductions are in order. This was the show notes. Pinball news and Pintastic New England show. And that was it.
    89:32
    You were doing it weekly back then, weren't you? Oh, God, yes. Oh, God. That was so stupid. I used to hear Ron complain, complain, complain like a little fucking schoolgirl. Look, I'm going to complain right now because of all the editing I got to do to make your sound sound good because your mic sucks, you know. Suck it. Yeah.
    89:50
    OK. All right. And hi to everyone in the Cluster Buck. All the Cluster Buckers. Hi, Cluster Buckers. Thanks, Chuck, once again. Thank you, listeners. Thank you. Until next time. Say goodbye, Bruce. Goodbye from Uncle Bruce, PJ. Oh my mind, oh my mind, can you boogie, can you slide? Oh my mind, oh my mind, you can boogie if you try. Oh my mind, oh my mind, it's guaranteed to keep you alive.
    90:36
    Meteor, Level Zero, Clusterfuck, George Dekai, Tim Balls, Bruce Isms, Tournament Talk, Car Holder, Cheetah, Sanadu, Cash Grab, ELO, Ballpark, What You Buy It, Game You Love, Game You Hate, Tournament Talk, Pimball Princess, SIR!
    91:06
    Oh my.