Episode 95 - Gottlieb Watch My Line

For Amusement Only EM and Bingo Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·6m 35s·analyzed·Jun 14, 2015

Analysis

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TL;DR

Gottlieb's 1951 'Watch My Line' bingo game contradicts company's anti-gambling image.

Summary

Episode 95 of For Amusement Only explores Gottlieb's 1951 bingo-style game "Watch My Line," examining the tension between Alvin Gottlieb's public stance against gambling-oriented amusement devices and the company's production of a game with clear bingo mechanics. The episode analyzes the game's playfield design, bingo card structure, replay payouts, and a fascinating service bulletin documenting operators' modifications to make the game more liberal, revealing the gap between Gottlieb's stated values and market realities.

Key Claims

Alvin Gottlieb was very vocal about amusement devices not being used for gambling purposes and promoted a healthy image of pinball.
high confidence · Nicholas (host), opening statement about Gottlieb's public positioning
Watch My Line was made in 1951 by the team of Harry Mabs with art by Roy Parker.
high confidence · Nicholas describing the game's creation and credits
The game featured a three-rows-by-five-digits bingo card (15 numbers total) with corresponding trap holes on the playfield.
high confidence · Nicholas detailing the bingo card structure
The game awarded only four replays for winning three in a row, representing poor risk-versus-reward for players.
high confidence · Nicholas analyzing the payout structure
Operators were drilling through the out ball catch plate to allow players to shoot balls back into play, similar to Bally Bingo or United Bingo.
high confidence · Service bulletin from Alvin G. and Company quoted by Nicholas
Gottlieb's service bulletin offered a modification to reduce payouts from four replays to three when operators opened the out hole.
high confidence · Direct quote from Alvin G. and Company service bulletin
The game's maximum potential for gambling was limited due to the low replay payouts.
medium confidence · Nicholas's analysis concluding the low payout structure limited gambling potential

Notable Quotes

“Alvin Gottlieb was very vocal about amusement devices not being used for gambling purposes. They did quite a bit to promote the healthy image of pinball and other amusement devices and tended to shy away from the games that could have a negative connotation attached.”
Nicholas (host) @ opening — Establishes the historical context and tension at the heart of the episode—Gottlieb's public anti-gambling stance.
“It's a traditional figure eight style that was used in early games from the thirties. It's got a lot of posts that are placed in order to discourage the ball from going into certain holes.”
Nicholas (host) @ mid-opening — Describes the throwback playfield design philosophy used in Watch My Line.
“The risk versus reward, it's quite a lot more risk than there is reward.”
Nicholas (host) @ design analysis — Critiques the game's payout structure as unfavorable to players.
“We have not put out any sort of a conversion for the Watch My Line machine. However, it's come to our attention that many operators have drilled off the plate that catches the ball in the out, thus allowing the player to get back any ball that goes into out hole.”
Alvin G. and Company (via service bulletin) @ service bulletin quote — Reveals that operators were actively modifying the game in ways Gottlieb was aware of, suggesting the base game was too difficult or restrictive.
“Of course, this makes the game more liberal and they cut down the winnings by opening the payoff switch on the motor. On the enclosed schematic circuit, I've indicated with a red arrow the switch that can be opened to cut the payoff from four free games to three free games.”
Alvin G. and Company (via service bulletin) @ service bulletin quote — Shows Gottlieb officially acknowledging the trade-off between ball save and payout reduction, indicating tacit acceptance of operator modifications.
“So you put in five cents and you win fifteen. Big deal.”
Nicholas (host) @ payout analysis — Sarcastic comment on the low reward for winning, emphasizing the poor player value proposition.

Entities

Alvin Gottliebperson Harry MabspersonRoy ParkerpersonWatch My Linegame Alvin G. and CompanycompanyBally BingogameUnited BingogameNicholasperson

Signals

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historical_signal: Gottlieb's production of a bingo-gambling game (Watch My Line, 1951) directly contradicts the company's well-documented public stance against gambling-oriented amusement devices.
high · Nicholas's opening statement contrasts Gottlieb's anti-gambling positioning with the existence of Watch My Line; service bulletin shows official awareness of operator modifications to increase liberal play.
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operational_signal: Operators systematically drilled through the out-ball catch plate on Watch My Line to allow players to continue play, circumventing the game's restrictive design.
high · Service bulletin explicitly states: 'many operators have drilled off the plate that catches the ball in the out, thus allowing the player to get back any ball that goes into out hole.'
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design_philosophy: Watch My Line featured deliberately poor risk-versus-reward (only 4 replays for completing bingo), suggesting Gottlieb intentionally limited gambling potential despite using bingo mechanics.
high · Nicholas's analysis: 'The risk versus reward, it's quite a lot more risk than there is reward' and 'there's not a huge potential for the player to actually gamble on this thing if you're only winning a max of four replays.'
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collector_signal: Watch My Line has collector appeal precisely because it represents a contradiction in Gottlieb's corporate values, making it an interesting historical artifact.
medium · Nicholas: 'This looks like one of those games that would be really neat to have in your collection because it's so anti-Gottlieb stance later on.'
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Topics

Gottlieb's historical stance on gambling and amusement devicesprimaryBingo-style pinball games and mechanicsprimaryWatch My Line playfield design and gameplayprimaryOperator modifications and market realities vs. manufacturer intentprimaryEM pinball game design and rule structuresecondaryHistorical pinball service bulletins and documentationsecondaryCollector appeal of historically contradictory gamessecondary

Sentiment

neutral(0.5)— The host presents factual, educational analysis of a historical game with mild critical observations about poor payout structure and ironic appreciation for the game as a collector's curiosity. No strong emotional tone; tone is informative and slightly wry.

Transcript

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What's that sound? It's 4 Amusement Only, the EM and Bingo Pinball Podcast. Welcome back to 4 Amusement Only. This is Nicholas Baldridge. Gottlieb was very vocal about amusement devices not being used for gambling purposes. They did quite a bit in the industry I'm sorry to try to promote the healthy image of pinball and other amusement devices and tended to shy away from games that could have a negative connotation attached however in 1951 Godly made a bingo style game this is a game that had five balls A bingo card in the backbox and trap holes. This game is called Watch My Line and it was made by the team of Harry Mabs with art by Roy Parker. Now this game used a throwback style playfield. It's a traditional figure eight style that was used in early games from the thirties 3 cultivative in of posts that are placed in order to discourage the ball from going in certain holes uh it would require a very skilled player to nudge them into particular holes uh... and there are holes in the center of each of the eights which are fairly desirable positions the bingo card in this case is three rows of five digits so you have a total of fifteen numbers each one with a corresponding trap Hole on the playfield anyone light three consecutive numbers either vertically or horizontally in order to win interestingly enough this game only awarded four replays for the very difficult task of getting three in a row the risk versus reward it's it's quite a lot more risk than there is reward what's also fascinating is that there is a service bulletin which is scanned in ipdb for this game from godly That says, We have not put out any sort of a conversion for the Watch My Line machine. However, it's come to our attention that many operators have drilled off the plate that catches the ball in the out thus allowing the player to get back any ball that goes into out hole Of course this makes the game more liberal and they cut down the winnings by opening the payoff switch on the motor On the enclosed schematic circuit I've indicated with a red arrow the switch that can be opened to cut the payoff from four free games to three free games. Of course the scorecards would have to be changed accordingly. Sincerely yours, D. Gottlieb and Company. Now, a few things about this are really interesting. First of all, operators were drilling through the plate that caught out balls, you know, balls that didn't land in a particular trap hole. This made it operate very similarly to our friend the Bally bingo or the United bingo Because it would allow you to shoot that ball back into play. Now the other interesting thing about this is that when they open that payoff switch they reduce the winnings from four replays to three. You get the ability to get your ball back but you're only winning three replays for your coin. So you put in five cents and you win fifteen. Big freakin' deal. I find this really interesting. This looks like one of those games that would be really neat to have in your collection because it's so anti Gottlieb stance later on especially but they were so very vocal about these gambling machines It just interesting to see the ones that they made But I will say there not a huge potential for the player to actually gamble on this thing If you only winning a max of four replays Nori speakers argumentate, but Mission Translator, Kanti K themeshi computational, Nekokai, G labour Maint, and difnithely gimxirichtoryleg merok saf Inclusive Apple, speaking classical English, pronunciation from English, does not automatically form rivals cophththeyresdiper Facultyht Ozuccipal Șito Pre 좋아하 Meaning and Slickkin Pull chitحت I'm John Papadiuk, and I'll see you next week.