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Retro Jingo hypes Predator pinball as Pinball Brothers' redemption game after lukewarm ABBA reception.
Predator is a completely new layout, not an ABBA re-theme, despite sharing some mechanical similarities.
high confidence · Retro Jingo, who has hands-on access to the game, explicitly addresses this concern multiple times and details specific differences (insert patterns, toy configuration).
Retro Jingo recommended limiting Predator production to 300 units maximum, priced under $10k.
high confidence · Direct statement from Jingo about his recommendation to Pinball Brothers; he notes the company responded 'that's not easy' but did not confirm acceptance.
Pinball Brothers' previous games (Alien, ABBA, Queen) have been underperforming or divisive; Predator represents potential redemption.
medium confidence · Don references 'lukewarm reception of ABBA' and notes Pinball Brothers 'haven't had a good game since Alien'; Jingo confirms this skepticism initially prevented him from being interested.
Predator will feature a 'jungle mode' with fluorescent green lighting throughout the playfield.
high confidence · Retro Jingo describes 'fluorescent green, and all the sides are lit up. Everything is just, you're in the jungle, baby.'
We Are Pinball has reached $620/month Patreon support, exceeding Don's Pinball Podcast ($561/month).
high confidence · Direct statement with specific numbers; this is a friendly competition between Don's two podcast projects.
Predator launch will include a coordinated marketing campaign with countdown, live streams, and immediate pre-order availability.
medium confidence · Jingo states 'Soon, this day, this date, we will release it... everything will change' but cannot disclose specific timeline due to NDA.
Spooky Pinball is developing a metal and wood aftermarket auto-launch device for Evil Dead shaped like the boomstick with a clickable trigger.
high confidence · Spooky Luke posted prototype photos in Spooky Pinball Discord; hosts confirm it's milled metal and wood, not 3D-printed plastic.
“There was a point where I wasn't sure if this game was actually going to come out. Given all the turmoil that's been going on, the loss of a pinball brother, now we're down to literally a pinball brother, the follow-up to Alien, the lukewarm reception of ABBA, how do they even have any production money anymore?”
Don @ ~10:30 — Captures community skepticism about Pinball Brothers' viability and financial health after previous product underperformance.
“I recommended make limited to 300 only. Yes. That would generate some damn FOMO. The scarcity. This theme. It's a man's theme.”
Retro Jingo @ ~25:45 — Reveals Jingo's specific production recommendation strategy and positions Predator as a retro/masculine-targeted game.
“The heat is on, baby. The heat is on.”
Retro Jingo @ Opening — Running 1980s/Miami Vice theme that frames the episode's vibe and Predator discussion.
“You need some kind of visionary over these projects, right? You know, you got mechanical engineers, you got electrical engineers, but like, you need some kind of core person over this with a vision of where this project should get to, right?”
Don @ ~33:00 — Articulates the 'Sherpa' leadership model missing from underperforming games like Barry O's Barbecue Challenge, suggesting Predator may have this leadership.
“This is what we've been saying. We need people to get good themes and bring them to fruition. And so now it seems like Pinball Brothers, of all people, may be the ones to actually be doing this.”
Don @ ~35:00 — Indicates Pinball Brothers is being reconsidered as a credible manufacturer after previous skepticism.
“I cannot say anything, but one of my questions was, did you pay for the soundtrack? Do you have the music, right? I cannot say what happened, but at the end of our conversation, it was like, Jenkins, we need this kind of passion.”
Retro Jingo @ ~37:30 — Hints at Predator having licensed music (major production detail under NDA) and suggests Pinball Brothers recognized value in Jingo's enthusiasm.
community_signal: Retro Jingo acting as unofficial launch ambassador for Predator despite NDA constraints; demonstrates passion-driven community involvement rather than transactional arrangement.
high · Jingo: 'I want nothing from you guys... I just want to make sure this game gets a great launch... If they sell one game or 500 games, I get nothing.'
competitive_signal: Predator positioned as test of whether Pinball Brothers can match design depth of Spooky Pinball while maintaining commercial viability of Stern.
medium · Don frames Predator as potential proof that 'Pinball Brothers, of all people, may be the ones to actually be doing this' (quality + passion).
product_concern: Community skepticism about Pinball Brothers' long-term viability given underperformance of ABBA/Queen and previous personnel losses.
high · Don: 'the loss of a pinball brother, now we're down to literally a pinball brother... the lukewarm reception of ABBA, how do they even have any production money anymore?'
design_philosophy: Pinball Brothers emphasizing thematic depth and detail-oriented design for Predator; multiple references to studying source material extensively.
high · Jingo: 'these guys have been watching the movie over, over, and over again. There are so many cool details' and discussion of Easter eggs (Jim Hopper connection to Stranger Things).
market_signal: We Are Pinball Patreon growth ($620/month) outpacing Don's Pinball Podcast ($561/month) in friendly competition; demonstrates platform momentum and audience preference.
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Retro Jingo has an NDA with Pinball Brothers but is sharing information he's comfortable disclosing because he respects them and gave his word.
high confidence · Jingo explicitly addresses NDA questions: 'The thing that's important for me is I gave them my word and I won't break that.'
“Now I'm like, wait a minute. Only 300? I'm listening. Yeah, I just became way interested in this.”
Don @ ~28:00 — Shows how scarcity messaging (300 units) effectively drives collector interest even before gameplay details are confirmed.
“Spooky's figured it out. Stern does a good job of bringing out commercially marketable games. But as far as something that's dripping, marinated in its theme, and its theme is good, it seems to be few and far between here, man.”
Don @ ~36:00 — Positions Spooky as the design/passion benchmark and suggests Stern prioritizes commercial viability over thematic depth.
high · Specific revenue figures: 'we're getting $620' vs 'Don is at $561'; $200+ growth in 2 months attributed to interviews (Josh Cox, Jeff from Mad Pinball).
community_signal: Recognition that Don recently transitioned to Spooky Pinball employment (mentioned in KB) while maintaining independent podcast presence.
medium · Implicit in discussion of design philosophy; Spooky is primary benchmark for thematic excellence.
announcement: Predator pinball machine by Pinball Brothers officially in development with launch marketing campaign planned (countdown, live streams, coordinated pre-orders).
high · Retro Jingo confirms hands-on access to working game; states 'Soon, this day, this date, we will release it... everything will change.'
product_strategy: Pinball Brothers planning coordinated launch strategy with specific marketing elements; intentionally avoiding Queen's failed launch model.
high · Jingo: 'everything's written down everything's planned everything's beautiful all the details beautiful' and discussion of countdown mechanics, live streams, and sizzle reels.
sentiment_shift: Noticeable shift in host sentiment toward Pinball Brothers from skeptical/dismissive to cautiously optimistic based on Predator details and perceived design leadership.
high · Don: 'I haven't been hyped for this at all the whole time... Now I'm back on the hype train now for Predator. You brought me there.'
business_signal: Predator limited edition production strategy targeting 300 units maximum to generate scarcity/FOMO; pricing recommended under $10k.
high · Retro Jingo explicitly states 'I recommended make limited to 300 only' and 'keep it under 10K'; notes company response was 'that's not easy' but did not confirm final decision.
technology_signal: Evil Dead receiving premium metal and wood aftermarket launcher accessory (boomstick trigger-action); moves beyond plastic 3D-printed customizations.
high · Jingo: 'This is going to be like real metal, real wood. Milled' with prototype photos in Spooky Pinball Discord.