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Pinball Party Podcast·podcast_episode·1h 2m·analyzed·Jan 10, 2025
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TL;DR

Speaker sells Metallica after one day due to tendonitis pain, market anxiety, and game design preferences.

Summary

A Pinball Party Podcast episode featuring an extended personal narrative about the speaker's one-day ownership of Metallica Premium, exploring three reasons for the quick sale: physical pain from tendonitis exacerbated by left-flipper-heavy gameplay, financial anxiety about depreciating pinball assets, and general dissatisfaction with the game's design and LCD screen implementation. The speaker contrasts Metallica with other recent games (Jaws, Walking Dead), discusses market saturation and pricing concerns, and reflects on preferences for DMD animations over LCD video assets, concluding with brief remarks on the upcoming Dungeons and Dragons reveal.

Key Claims

  • The speaker developed tendonitis pain from playing pinball, particularly left-flipper-heavy games like Metallica and Jaws

    high confidence · Direct personal testimony; speaker describes specific physical symptoms and links gameplay to forearm/wrist pain

  • Metallica Premium costs approximately $10,000-12,000 USD and depreciates rapidly when sold used

    high confidence · Speaker mentions '$10,000 US dollars on a mistake' and discusses secondary market value loss

  • Foo Fighters Premium machines are available at approximately $7,000, representing market saturation of similar-tier games

    medium confidence · Speaker states 'you can just get a premium for seven grand now' and compares to Foo Fighters as a post-COVID oversupply example

  • Walking Dead Remastered is primarily right-flipper-heavy, contrasting with Metallica's left-flipper emphasis

    high confidence · Speaker describes Walking Dead shots (drop targets, CDC, barn, prison, well walker) as predominantly right-flipper based

  • Jaws is described as an 'equal flipper game' with heavy left-flipper usage on the right orbit ramp

    high confidence · Speaker played Jaws to prepare for Metallica and describes left-flipper demand during 'that way right orbit ramp'

  • DMD animations are superior to LCD video assets because custom animations are exclusive to pinball and have higher replay value

    high confidence · Extended discussion comparing DMD vs LCD, citing games like Lord of the Rings, Medieval Madness, Attack from Mars as examples of memorable custom animations vs. generic movie clips

  • Metallica's LCD screen implementation shows live concert footage that deviates from studio recordings, which the speaker finds objectionable

    medium confidence · Speaker mentions 'I don't want to see this live concert footage of songs that is not what I'm hearing. This is like, it's two different things'

  • Stern's Dungeons and Dragons machine was revealed at CES and the speaker has not yet played it

Notable Quotes

  • “I kept Metallica for one day. Gone. See you later!”

    Host @ Early in episode — Sets up the central narrative of the episode

  • “Pinball's been causing most of this. Or at least a major factor in it. And I had already bought the game. Like, well, that's great. I'm physically damaging myself by playing this hobby.”

    Host @ Mid-episode — Key moment of realization about tendonitis connection to pinball playing

  • “I'm not going to use sunk cost principle in pinball. I refuse to use sunk cost in pinball. I in fact only use opportunity cost in pinball.”

    Host @ Discussion of financial reasoning — Articulates the speaker's financial decision-making framework for pinball purchases

  • “If I wanted to watch the movie, I'll watch the movie. I definitely don't want to watch the movie with crappy audio and crappy video leaning on a machine and my lower back kind of hurts and my wrist hurts.”

    Host @ LCD screen criticism segment — Core argument against LCD video asset usage in pinball

  • “I think that the custom animations made it what it was. That's why it was so special. Medieval madness, the cool funny animations in Attack from Mars, the Star Trek ones...”

    Host @ DMD vs LCD discussion — Identifies the value proposition of DMD animations as exclusive custom content

  • “Metallica, even that, are you googling the song? Alright, I want to hear the old song with the new aged people and once in a while I'll see a little bit of it.”

    Host @ Late in episode — Rhetorical challenge to the premise of LCD concert footage

Entities

Host (unnamed speaker)personZachpersonNicolepersonDavid Van EspersonKeith ElwinpersonJohn Papaduke Jr.personStern PinballcompanyFlippin' Out Pinballcompany

Signals

  • ?

    product_concern: Speaker reports that Metallica Premium's left-flipper-heavy gameplay exacerbates existing tendonitis, causing pain in wrist and forearm that impacts daily life beyond pinball

    high · Extended personal testimony about tendinitis flare-up, physical preparation needed, and pain that 'carries over into work then carries over into lifting weights which then carry over to like just when I'm watching TV'

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Speaker's opinion of Metallica shifted negatively after purchase; initial excitement turned to buyer's remorse due to physical pain and gameplay preferences

    high · Purchased machine enthusiastically, played for one day, sold immediately; cites 'I'm getting something that's going to cause me pain'

  • $

    market_signal: Premium-tier pinball machines are depreciating rapidly; used Metallica already significantly below MSRP; speaker describes selling immediately as insufficient to recover value

    high · Speaker: 'selling a used one right away is already not even coming close to holding its value' and 'It's a depreciating asset' and reference to Foo Fighters premium at $7,000 as evidence of market saturation

  • $

    market_signal: Post-COVID pinball market oversaturation; games that were high-demand are now available at significantly reduced premiums due to lack of demand

    high · Speaker cites Foo Fighters, Avengers, Halloween, X-Men, John Wick, Venom as examples of games losing value; notes 'everyone's played it. Everyone's had it. No one really wants it anymore'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Speaker strongly prefers right-flipper-heavy games and dislikes left-flipper-heavy games like Tron and TMNT due to ergonomic and gameplay reasons

Transcript

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0:00
Welcome to the Pinball Aparity Paid... Welcome to the Pinball Aparity Podcast! Yeah, working on my fucking terrible Irish accent. How'd I do? Ah, how'd I do there? Ah, Pinball... Yeah, no, I, uh... Welcome to the Pinball Aparity... Yeah, I'm... There was a little bit. I got about 10% of it. Keep working on it.
0:32
We plan to go to Ireland in a... about six... six months, so... I gotta practice my... Oh, welcome to Ireland! I'm here to play pinball now! I, uh... I'm from a... Fucking... what the hell? Hi!
0:47
Good to see ya! And you? Not you. Get the fuck outta here. Stop listening. I don't like you. Turn it off.
0:58
Dungeons and Dragons! It's been revealed. Hmm. Exciting. Let's talk about that briefly. This is what it's like to own Metallica Premium. I'll tell you that. Here's where it's difficult to uh mmm how to say it Let's go back a little bit. Why would anyone do a podcast in general? For entertainment? Yeah. For news? Sure. It's here to get, to listen. Trans, Richard
2:21
As Scott Fitts. Hmm, the pinball show, Triple Jane, electric backcast, the new nudge podcast is pretty great. Erica's Pinball Journey, Final Round, you know, Buffalo. Anyway, I'm going on a tangent. All that to say, how do we talk about Metallica? Hmm. I guess what most people tune into this for is not the news of the week. We do go through it, but it's what have, what are the people that talk from this side of the microphone's opinion on games? Long story short, I'm beatingaroundthefuckingbush. I kept Metallica for one day. Gone. See you later! Yeah, one day. Why? A few reasons. I shall start. One, when I inadvertently personally took a few month break from pinball for many reasons, not like hatred of the hobby, life, whatever, things. And I have tendinitis. Hear this again, right? David Van Es, Knapp Arcade. David Van Es, Knapparcade. Was struggle all the time still is. But when I was prepping to get Metallica, I actually had to go. I went to the arcade to work out my forearm to get ready to play more pinball like a 42 year old man would like well I got to get my fucking wrist ready to play pinball because human bodies break. So stupid because what happens you know when it flares up is it becomes painful like right where you're if you put your finger on it, it's like you're What are you eating? Talk or Frank Fo ThemeTV Talk prestige Beep, Beep, Beep. 聞, Doja. I'm gonna play the shit out of Metallica. Oh my god. I've been looking forward to this for so long. So I went and prepped by playing as one does Jaws and that is a left flipper heavy game

high confidence · Speaker states 'Thank you again Stern for inviting me. I did not make it this week to see it. I know it's at CES' and expresses intent to play soon

Metallica (Stern Remastered)
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Jawsgame
Walking Dead Remasteredgame
Dungeons and Dragonsgame
Lord of the Ringsgame
Medieval Madnessgame
Attack from Marsgame
Deadpoolgame
Foo Fightersgame
Iron Mangame
Pinball 2000 / Phantom Menace / Revenge from Marsgame
Knapp Arcadecompany
CES (Consumer Electronics Show)event

high · Describes preference for right-flipper warp ramps; discomfort with left-flipper upper ramps; notes physical pain and reduced enjoyment of left-flipper-centric gameplay

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Speaker prefers DMD animations to LCD video assets; argues custom animations provide exclusive pinball-specific content while video clips are redundant with available movies

    high · Extended discussion: 'I like DMD better than LCD because the scarcity of it, the sparse use of it made it more special' and 'If I wanted to watch the movie, I'll watch the movie'

  • ?

    product_concern: Metallica's LCD screen shows live concert footage that deviates from studio recordings, creating a disconnect between audio and visual experience

    medium · Speaker: 'I don't want to see this live concert footage of songs that is not what I'm hearing. This is like, it's two different things'

  • ?

    announcement: Stern Pinball officially revealed Dungeons and Dragons at CES; game features RPG mechanics with attribute system (health, charisma, etc.)

    high · Speaker: 'Thank you again Stern for inviting me' to the reveal; references CES location; describes watching gameplay streams

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Dungeons and Dragons' attribute system depth is questionable; speaker uncertain whether attributes have meaningful mechanical impact or are mostly cosmetic

    medium · Speaker: 'I want to get some more info on the level up stuff because it there I can't tell how in depth it is' and 'I think it's a little more shallow than I want it to be right now'

  • ?

    design_innovation: Speaker reflects positively on Pinball 2000 era (Phantom Menace, Revenge from Mars) as innovative use of screens; contrasts with modern LCD implementations

    medium · Speaker: 'There was something to Pinball 2000, to Phantom Menace, to Revenge from Mars, where that... I remember thinking it was innovative. I still think it's innovative'

  • ?

    community_signal: Widespread awareness in pinball community that hobby is physically taxing; tendonitis and repetitive strain injuries appear to be common concerns among dedicated players

    medium · Speaker casually discusses tendonitis and mentions brother-in-law in sports medicine helping with recovery, suggesting this is a known community issue

    • 5:15
    It's an equal flipper game Where you're using the left flipper just as much especially that way right orbit ramp The bow ramp is so good that shot is so incredible. So I had gave my wrist a workout and so what I noticed in between working out my wrist and then metallica was oh Oh boy, it's been pinball the whole time that's been causing most of this. Or at least a major factor in it. And I had already bought the game. Like, well, that's great. I'm physically damaging myself by playing this hobby. And I told my significant other, hey, remember that I'm telling you this so that now I know that this is a very strong indicator and what's been happening because she knows it's been a vacuum of not playing pinball and this happens and yada yada. So I was already like, I'm getting something that's going to cause me pain and what causes pain and troubles from that then carries over into work then carries over into lifting weights which then carry over to like just when I'm watching TV or enjoying my life I'm thinking about the pulsing pain and the tingle and the numbness from my forearm so it makes its way into everything so that that's great looking looking forward to that So
    7:03
    I'm a big Stern box with the box cutter. Vibrations are really bad for tendonitis or a lot of tendon things. And just like holding the box and cutting the colic ball, it just affects everything. What am I doing? So that's reason number one was that. And like, what am I doing? I have to really be careful. I mentioned I know jaws was a big part of it. I love Jaws, my god. I love that game.
    7:37
    Before Jaws, the game that I played the most previously was Walking Dead at home, and that is a right flipper heavy game. It very much, all of the main shots, the drop targets, which is like 90% of that game, and then the CDC shot, which is like, I love to double that up with the Bicycle Girl and CDC. Get two weapons at once, once the mode has started, give me those weapons, let's get the horde mode. Oh, so good. And the the barn shot and I forget what the other one is.
    8:10
    All the stuff on the left hand plus the prison you can hit with the right flipper plus the well walker You can hit with the right flipper most of those shots in the game. You're using the right flipper most of the time So if I'm using my right hand, which is not affected by tendonitis I can play that game for days and I have no problem So I fool myself without paying attention to these things and thinking on pinballs fine. That's fine. Yeah, whatever And that was the last game. I'm like, I'll get another game. Not a big deal. And these things come to you after you've already spent the $10,000 US dollars on a mistake. So, um, yeah, now the question is, can I only play right flipper heavy games? Actually, maybe. What a weird world. When I think back to something I very much dislike about Tron and TMNT is that it is a left flipper heavy game due to the upper flipper ramp. situation work ramp whatever you want to call it They should just call those warp ramps It's so much faster to say it than upper flipper ramp or cross ramp middle ramp It's the warp ramp on turtles and Tron. It's a left flipper. So every like when I play those games I
    9:20
    Subconsciously, I don't know if it's subconsciously like right below I'm consciously like I don't want to have to hit that shot all the time because it F-x my hand up and the antithesis of that is the warp ramp which is on the right and I want to hit that bastard over and over until warp 9 all the time all day love it so there's that whole debacle of reason one why metallic was only here for one day was it two days okay to be fair i think it was actually two days but it was listed within one day yeah so one physically damaging I'm not a smart idea for me to keep playing it. Clinton Pinball, it's not a smart idea. And the reason is, other than left hand, the worst thing for these type of injuries is speed and it's not like a slow weight. Like I can do wrist curls which I do a lot because my brother-in-law is in sports medicine and helping with this over the years. Allea Far вся gustavo just quando so kidneys number one along Wilson So, reason number one long about long-winded answer of saying physically stupid for me I have it. Reason number two, which I made mention to, games are so expensive. Every time I get one, every time, it's like, well, oops, that's a vacation amount of like, what happens if this just like the market just shits? It's slowly shitting. And what happens? Well, that is like a full trip to Ireland. Hey, across the way, it's Ireland. This Week in Pinball, Johnny Pneumonic, Black Water, Kaneda's Pinball Podcast, Twippies Awards, transliteelectronic Hey, if Ireland is a pinball and yeah, 11% I'm getting with this accent. So it's that it's the sunk cost doesn't work here. I'm not going to use sunk cost in pinball. I refuse to use sunk cost principle in pinball. I in fact only use opportunity cost in pinball. I can't convince myself otherwise. So I have the game. My gosh, shit. Why am I ever doing this with any game ever? I think the most I've ever had at once pinball machines for me it was four maybe five one two if four or five and that felt like it oh my god that's too much money to have in it so there's that thing further looking at the market of like you can just get a premium for seven grand now for all the uh is mid-tier the right word because I refuse like Foo Fighters premium you want to gran courage-for-Guolf Come, short taggle atibt Ciao boy. 0 cya next week, Hi, I'm Zach, as you know, on last episode or here the deep dives go to our patreon.com listen to the deep dives where we go into episodes, you know, surprise, surprise deep and we talked about everything from first impressions to reviews and what we think of everything in the game. Go check it out. Zach, what Zach thinks posited and I agree, it's probably right is that, like right post COVID, it was like the biggest kind of game that came out and everyone's excited like you'd actually buy these games. They weren't like $2,000 over MSRP people just bought it. Subtitles by the Amara.org community It's a lot of supply. And then now the kind of demand is like, oh, well, everyone's played it. Everyone's had it. No one really wants it anymore. And it's it's it's the market makes it seem like this is another like Avengers or a Halloween or I guess to even sorry. I mean, an X-Men or like a John Wick or Venom. Foo Fighters is not. No, Foo Fighters is so much better than all of those. My God. But yeah, so Foo Fighters. Pinterest Task landfill Liverpool www disrespectissippi entfer Britneypre argent I going to be down there Yeah so a premiums even good games are like at seven So what does that say about Metallica in the value Like how long does it maintain the like I say well knowing for like what I sold it for like what is the like high eights I mean just selling a used one right away is already not even coming close to holding its value And yes it a depreciating asset And yes this isn COVID But For Wardlectric Hait�NNO warum? Let me ano, what whas always been. Karo Poy Sidngぉye Click the link Carpo eman Info Ah Thank you for watching. So it's how fast will this drop and now he's getting scared every time I don't care whatever I convince myself I can't see the long game in pinball financially. It's my own thing. So that's point number two, the market overall. So you're keeping score number one physically stupid for me to be playing pinball. In fact, detrimental to my health. Number two, the money anxiety, just call it what it is. For various reasons and we're going to talk. I want I'll probably talk more about the market as we go on because it just it permeates every opinion I have in every pinball all the time because it's so fucking expensive. Like thinking about video game costs when I'm playing a video game. I was going to say 0% of the time. Sometimes, you know, you spend $70 on like a AAA quote AAA game on PlayStation or computer. I'm just not into AAA walk around to do this pre-configured thing that they've decided to do and look at the graphics and your I'm not usually thinking about the price of a video game when I'm enjoying it. Because relatively speaking, it's nothing. So the price. Number three, the actual game. The game.
    18:34
    This is what I hemmed and hawed in the beginning about how to say this, and it's could I make a pinball machine? No. Could I? Yes, I could. Right now, no. I mean, like if I gave it my all and dedicated time like anyone and got into it and could I do I believe in myself is the question, right? Do I believe myself? Could I make a pinball machine if I over I'm going to make a pinball machine with a team of people. Yeah. Okay. But like right now, can I? No, no, I couldn't make no gun to my head. Could not do anything remotely aside from maybe make some audio. So taking the respect of how hard it is to budget for a game, manage the people for building the game, correct, getting the right team, coding it, creating the assets, building the game, all that stuff. May I ask you to bible a payrollmakers for three chairs. The A. But, ahh fallsownice.com. I like the music, but I just like the music. I like playing it. I like listening to it at the gym. I like jamming out in the car, doing your thing, what people do. And, you know, with shitty Stern audio and speakers, like, oh, that's missing a lot. I want to hear it good. What are we doing here? So that, you know, that's a little part of it. So the music was great, but playing the actual game. Yeah, it's historically the allure was the scarcity somewhat of the game on the used market and just in general, I'm John Popadiuk, and I'll see you next week. This Week in Pinball, Johnny Pneumonic, Black Water, Kaneda's Pinball Podcast, Twippies Awards, transliteelectronic And if you enjoy this segment, I'm not going to stop you. Buh bye. Bye. If there's a telecurtain or anime indie company paying attention to me I say hello. Typically nächción này sẽ gëlächool leads the game. ší as Christiaan Ms traditionais dan anh g明白 Before I WORK Rewind Q&A. This Week in Pinball, John Papadiuk, Black Water, Kaneda's Pinball Podcast, Twippies Awards, translite proportregon This week in Pinball, Johnny Pneumonic, Black Water, Kaneda's Pinball Podcast, Twippies Awards, translite)( This week in Pinball, John Papadiuk, Black Water, Kaneda's Pinball Podcast, Twippies Awards, translite proportering panel in backbox that is backlit during play), Game of Thrones unintigrade We're gonna see if we can get a spin on that one. That's cool. Oh, it's super cool. Oh, man. That's cool. Oh, man. That's so cool. Oh, man. That's so cool. All right. I got one. We got one. All right. Okay. I'm gonna go with that. All right. Oh, man. That's cool. Well, there we go. That's cool. All right. There we go. All right. Okay. All right. The drop target's inline. Because when you hit a drop target super hard a lot of times, it won't register it and it won't drop down. So that sucks. Over time, it's fine. You can tweak it. But, you know, again, small, out of the box. Like, eh. I had no problems out of the box, by the way. And per usual, if I did, you know, Flippin' Out Pinball would help me. I purchased it from Flippin' Out Pinball, a very fine sponsor of the show. And Flippin' Out Pinball is a company, it's strange. This company is run by the largest American family that there's ever been. It's Zach, his wife Nicole, 13 kids, the dad, Zach's grandma, his great grandpa, all the grandmas, the in-laws, 76 dogs, four cats, I think 46 cousins are now involved, two-thirds of those are female, which is actually a strange statistic. I think there's a couple divorces in the cousin side, but This week in Pinball, Johnny Pneumonic, Black Water, Kaneda's Pinball Podcast, Twippies Awards, transliteregon You know, when there's a problem in the pinball industry, they help eat a lot of the cost. The delivery is free. The delivery is fast. If you have any issues, they fix them. I've said that a few times, but it's true because they actually do unlike others. So here's to the fantastic company, Flip N Out Pinball. So I did not have any problems. Little oily balls. For real. The grease they put on those. I had to wipe that off. Because the oil, whatever it may be, silicon? Silicone? Plus The crazy turbo flipper power of these things. Those balls were flying everywhere. All over. Like anything it could jump over, it jumped over. Every lane, like just hitting a cross would just send it flying into the outlanes or missing a shot would shoot it over back into the shooter lane. If you didn't hit a shot, it was just chaos going everywhere. On the same point, if you smash Before how to enter the next match for your first win, click your winninghlicks to ginkgo and discard a cash moment. Daily
    27:56
    To me, it doesn't feel as great. It reminds me of what I don't like about that game per se, which is not that it's a bad game. It's just not my style. Except for the music and art, which is very much my style. One thing that always annoyed me with that game is the standup post that happens when you hit an orbit. There's certain modes where like it's open. So you hit an orbit, it comes all the way back around and that's awesome. But by default, like when you launch the ball, if you don't, if you don't hold the left flipper for a super skill shot or whatever that may be, This week in Pinball, Johnny Pneumonic, Black Water, Kaneda's Pinball Podcast, Twippies Awards, translite proportional Tell me if you wanna help. Give me two, if you're Trish passwords are the butt. Have friends it's your friend Ken Boos. This is the I Don't care if. And the fuel, something about hitting the fuel targets. I don't know if it's a sound thing or just I never paid attention. Anytime I hit it or I hit the, so that's the big stand up target, the fuel thing or the way left kind of shot. It's just not satisfying. So, you know, if it's something that based on the first two points of my physical reasons for not wanting to it, the market being super sketch, I do think Metallica will hold its value secondary. You keep going for extra although this place works now shut out gotten a patent much more to update my me 22 2 Cheeky Dodotios proxy on my Marco, I not sure if I really like this but because you know generally if you get a game newish and it hot like you won lose too much time I a little bit And that game again the shots were already there I had some airball issues out of the gate and that really you know I was upset and all that And, um, but the shots were still there and then I did kind of sleep on it. Uh, and I just, you know, intuitively, whatever you want to call it, I have something like, I kept getting pulled back to jaws, like something to you. I'm a fan. Let me let me take the time get over myself my initial reaction and it was awesome But again Metallica I've played plenty in the past. I know what this is I know I know the ending to this so just do my thing and then hurry it up and see you later So it's gone sold it So for those out there In the future like when I get games, I will sell them fast
    32:12
    Usually especially newer stuff like if I'm if I'm reading like an old to go, you know, Ghostbusters or walking to well AААААААА I'm going to hit the two times, the three times, and then I'm going to play this game with the multipliers and that's it. And that's how you play that game. And then go through the ladders and we'll see how long that entertainment lasts at that point. And the difference there with like the LCD screen, which is another point on Metallica, fantastic LCD screen, but, um, um, ...
    33:48
    I think the vocalist has a tendency to deviate from theUSB which is much more accurate during the vital song recording process. disasters I did not express any objective or cognitive feelings toward it. So now that I hear that, I'm feeling wanting to add specifically G.V. User following So if you want anything else, let us know in the comments.
    34:31
    So I don't want to see this live concert footage of songs that is not what I'm hearing. This is like, it's two different things. So I'd rather see the music videos of these songs or concert footage of the era of when they were playing these. That's me personally. But which made me think about, I don't think I really care about LCD screens. Even though Metallica is doing the awesome thing and taking what was on the old DMD, something you had to sit and wait for the info to see how many times you have to hit it. This week's theme song is without f男는 escre by Disk Şeyma and Marge Chudov, and bike fotos by 책 dictates the town of Betab Θ 황소야非, and Rage Against the Other, sung by Martyju, and Jun練's theme song for political political party hail a beautiful, and Haru Dêchenschai's Oh no, don't murder him, Have pries at home To this Again, So you can watch it on any game where the LCD screen aside from like just the info I need, you know, the age old tale of the video assets who cares after like the first couple times and not who cares like completely but pretty much who cares. You can star like okay, let's take Star Wars one of the best movies of all time to a lot of people Star Wars the saga in general, the saga. George Lucas's space epic saga. I like watching that movie, playing pinball. I'm not like, okay, let me see. Now what happens when the tie fighter goes at the Death Star? You know, I bet I know what happens. You know, there's no thing about movies. It's stories. It's not always just visual eye candy. Like there's suspense, there's drama, there's sadness, there's happiness. I mean, I'm explaining to you what a movie is, you know what it is. So like a video asset, I'm not like, wow, look at that. It's, it's 10 seconds of the Empire Strikes Back. I've never seen that before. I didn't know you could get short clips of movies somewhere, like YouTube maybe? If I wanted to watch clips? And there's no way any of you out there, like even if you're huge Jaws fans are like alright I'm always googling this part where they're making rope in Jaws. I wanna just watch that 10 seconds on YouTube, here I go. Yeah. Oh tie that rope. Tie it. I mean if you are, okay. That's fucked. And more power to you. But you're probably Probably not. So then, Metallica, even that, are you googling the song? Alright, I want to hear the old song with the new aged people and once in a while I'll see a little bit of it. Because I'm saying like in between shots and modes when you're looking at it. It's just, I just don't, I just don't care. It's the game. It's why a lot of us still love Medieval Madness or Attack from Mars. The screen, I almost like it better, honestly. I think I do. I like DMD better than LCD because the scarcity of it, the sparse use of it made it more special. And the custom animations made it more special. Like in Lord of the Rings, okay, yes, of course, I like Lord of the Rings, but the custom animation is what makes that special. And I will actually watch those quote clips on a DMD. Because if it's the movie stuff, I'll watch the fucking movie. Or Yes, Lord of the Rings, I will probably go on YouTube and look at some scenes a little I'll use them as reference from testing out new speakers or you know some Odyssey correction as one does but the old animations and DMDs were like that's the only place you could get it was pinball so you'd watch it and it was special and it was cool and I guess you know yeah the natural evolution is to bring in the LCDs and utilize it but I think Jersey Jack initially had it right where use it for more information for the game And then the visual assets separately, but I mean not that we're not doing that, but it just it I don't know. I think that the custom animations made it what it was. That's why it was so special. Medieval madness, the cool funny animations in Attack from Mars, the Star Trek ones, you know, like where they would take movie things and remake them into DMD clips. Same with Lord of the Rings. Where they would like started to falter, I thought, they probably did this before, but what comes to mind is Iron Man, that DMD game. I love the game. Love it. It's in my top 10. But those animations, they tried to take the movie clips and convert them to DMD and it just looks like trash. Not that they didn't do a good job, but they have some custom animations and I like the custom animations better than taking the movie and trying to convert it to like 14p or whatever the resolution is. Now, when you know Blizzard tutorials После plummet tour with Co attendant Harlow 갑, WeIIU, GovAnim19 뭐� эта'? 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But that might be the best use of LCD animations in a, in a spike to Long talk we had, but I kinda want to hear more about pinball investigators, even though they are always really important in disrefiki羅 of the react varit.com. In that taking a Lord of the Rings. You get it in this custom animation. That Chuck Ernst in the team. That game is a 20 out of 10 animation just absolutely incredible. What they did in that game for animations. If they put in Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman and everything from like make it optional. That's cool. But I don't I don't I don't want that I want something that's custom to pinball. So the reason to look at it. Another reason I tried the movie animation, you know, the custom code that people do and I uninstalled it, for lack of a better phrase. I switched back to the other one. One because it just didn't line up as well, but it lined up good enough. I don't think anyone would be able to tell if they didn't know. But again, I wanted to see something that I could only see in pinball. I want to see the animations they made for this. I want to see what's created for this. Otherwise, I'll watch Jurassic Park. That is the point. People love this thing because of the movie that you can see on the 4K or the Blu-ray or the MKV that you have on your Synology that you're using Kodi to watch. I want to watch the movie. I'll watch the movie. I definitely don't want to watch the movie with crappy audio and crappy video leaning on a machine and my lower back kind of hurts and my wrist hurts. And I can't hear all the dialogue. You know what I mean. So I'm playing Metallica made me miss honestly the DMD animations of Metallica and not the information as we discussed earlier like the snake shots and all that. I think that's a level up for sure. But the custom animations and it just it having it immediately made me want to get back into Walking Dead which I probably will one because I have to I think play I'm not a fan of pinball. I don't play right flipper heavy games. I just kind of have to, which sucks, or at least majoritively play right flipper heavy games. And it feels more like pinball. I don't know. The screens, they don't quite do it yet. There was something to Pinball 2000, to Phantom Menace, to Revenge from Mars, where that, you know, say what you will about the failure of that model. I remember thinking it was innovative. I still think it's innovative. I think that is a great use of screens because you're actually, again, custom animation there as well, but you're using screens as like the game. Like this is a game. When, when, Subtitles by the Amara.org community
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    I'm going to go ahead and get back to the game. That's what I'm doing here. I'm playing game. If I wanted to watch a ninja movie, I'd be watching at that age, what? Bloodsport, Lionheart, Enter the Dragon. You know, I'd be watching ninja movies or a ninja cartoon movie. I'm playing video games. The fuck? Turtles? Same thing. Like you'd see a custom Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cutscene in a video game. Awesome. Because it's customist to that game. It's whatever. And then you get back to playing the game. What you're doing. If I want to watch Turtles, I'll watch the cartoon. Cause it's incredible. Or I'll watch the movie. Pinball, I just care about the game. The way the shots feel, the rules are, how it's laid out, you know, the insider connected. Yeah, love it. I think it's gonna, you know, the screens are kind of like, you need that for insider connected. You need it. But I still hope we keep doing custom animation. I mean, I know we have to for things like Dungeons and Dragons. And things like that that don't have it. They could have gone I'm not sure if I'm on the way of... I could have made a big whoopsies and made this based on the movie but so far it's looking great. So accidentally segueing from I like DMDs better than LCDs, not the games but you get it, to D&D. Thank you again Stern for inviting me. I did not make it this week to see it. I know it's at CES. Plenty of YouTube videos out there talking about it Please do yourself a favor and go look at those I have not played it yet I hope to catch up with Kale from Electric Bad Arcade soon Sup And hopefully play it myself soon Sooner rather than later So I cannot speak to what the videos can tell you much more All I can say from seeing the reveal and watching the gameplay stream and a couple other streams bit more specific about this one I going to be a little bit more specific about this one I want to get some more info on the level up stuff because it there I can't tell how in depth it is, like if the health and the charisma and all that really matters more than just kind of surface level. Hey, the numbers kind of go up, so then we do more damage when we're fighting goblins or whatever they may be. This week's topic is, how does each of the attributes affect something different in a profound way? Or is it like, we're getting there. I think it's a little more shallow than I want it to be right now, but I seriously have no clue. It just, from what I'm seeing so far, like, does it really go as, do all the attributes matter significantly? Is the TLDR there? And apparently not everyone knows what TLDR is. Too long, didn't read. I learned that the other day talking with someone who doesn't work in tech. They are better off than we are. Anyone who knows what TLDR is, our life is sad. So, but Dungeons and Dragons, I hope that this nerdery that we all share can sustain that on the market because it's what pinball needs is that creativity, that awesome type of game mechanics, the, it has all the right ingredients. For a successful recipe. Sands price. The price didn't go up, mind you, but just in general, like the market, like, come on, level out. And everyone else I mentioned, like from the Christmas episode, go buy these things or or actually don't save up your money. So when I need to sell a game, buy my keep the market going. But we need to keep buying these games.
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    Yeah, the recipes are great. The pro model looks to be the winner here. Uh, aside from basically, in my opinion, aside from the little scoop that pops up on the premium, I think the pro looks to be like basically the same as a premium. Yes, slight differences on the dragon or he moves only vertical instead of left and right. And he might be able to block shots a little bit here there. Um, but even as like a Jurassic Park fanatic, the T-Rex moving head is cool. It's cool. Um, http://longtermplaystyleере possa feed adult. entire amouementuz dot Abreuette Appreciate You incekting my I'm a little bit of a DMD. That's been messing me up lately. Someone says it and I'm like, are you talking about, oh, you're talking about the game. Well, right. But the dragon head, the T-Rex head 2.0 looks sweet. It's interesting that it spits balls out, but it doesn't swallow balls. I bet they tested that and maybe that's an interview somewhere. I know there's a couple out there. Goose conservationarleysingятно Product With Seth and the crew. Or Dwight and the crew. But uhm, well... It is accurately Seth and the crew but I'll correct myself before you write it. I wonder if the ball ever swallowed or maybe one, might have something internal like... we will no longer swallow balls. Cuz you know Jaws? Uh uh. D&D? Uh uh. John Wick might have swallowed some balls, but in a different way metaphorically swallowed some balls. It just looks so good. The art is incredible. The theme is incredible. The shots look... Uh... Aside from the three bank, I guess that was my first reaction. No one likes to hit a three bank that's just there. I mean, do you? I don't. I mean, it's just this big chunk.
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    S parting, Ken Mo, Pete Hide, Phagan Atman, SageE Beiil, Closed Caption by The Closed Caption Project Which is our ultimate goal here is to get a Magic the Gathering pinball machine. It's one of the ultimate goals. But these non-movie, non-band, non-Marvel, non-Star Wars games like come on, let's do it. Let's get these things a-selling. And per Seth Davis, the sales are going to the home so the home buyers got to buy this game which is a tall order in a rough market which, yeah, continues to soften. I don't want it to drop. Just stop softening a little bit. And maybe we need to get a poll out there. A P-O-L-L poll to find out what everyone, as many votes as we can, like what is the pro price that we'd all like to settle on? Like is it five and a half? I mean, is it five? Like it might be high fours at this point. Premium, it seems to be like the market's telling us it's a It's below eight. That's for sure. Aside from the big boys. And by the big boys I mean like Jaws, maybe Godzilla. I still don't get it. I don't get the Godzilla thing. But Jaws, man, I'd love to play some Jaws right now. Damn, the game's so good. Yeah, let's figure, let's get a poll going, figure out the market, and then let's stop dropping these fucking prices. Yeah. Speaking of, you know, it's been a long time. And I'll end with this. It's been a long time since I've done a figure it out. And for those long time listeners, since I used to buy and sell a lot of games on the secondary market, and I've slowed down drastically. But I, every weekend, every other weekend, multiple times a week, driving, buying, selling, buying, a lot of, basically it was like things of the secondary market, like don't do this, figure it out, you know, or do this, or just little tips and tricks, or just straight ripping on people, dunking on people. I'm just going to dunk on someone. You're welcome. I listed my Metallica for a very generous Metallica Premium remastered, let me be specific, a very generous $8,900 US dollars. What's the MSRP? Nine and a half. Sometimes 9.8, depends who you talk to. Let's say it's a low end, nine and a half. I asked 8.9. Very new fucking game. And then I had a little thing I'm not keeping this game. Someone said, hey, how about for that whole thing together I'll offer you an even eight. Figure it out. Eight. He said, I'm about to buy one locally for eight. I figured I'd give you the offer and say if you throw in the expression lights, I'll give you the total amount of $8,000. This week in Pinball, Johnny Pneumonic, Black Water, Kaneda's Pinball Podcast, Twippies Awards, transliteelectronic Well, basically, hey, to their defense, they did start with saying at the risk of being digitally punched in the face. So like at least they knew like, this is stupid. But let me confirm for you. Yes, that was stupid. Figure it out. All right, everyone. Thanks for joining. Thanks for listening. Again, the TLDR on Metallica is if you like the game Metallica by Stern Pinball, this is just a better one of those. That is probably the objective answer. My subjective answer is just not the game for me. I wish it was. I want it to be. I want to love that game more than I do. It's not for me. But if someone's like, hey, I bought a Metallica, I'd be like, that's a good choice. You are a smart man or woman for buying Metallica Remastered Premium. Stern, please continue to keep remaking these masters. It is a 10 out of 10 remaster. It deserves to be made. It's my fault for not liking it. And here's to Dungeons and Dragon's the best of luck to you and my love for DND's shit DMD's remains strong. All right, everyone. See you later. I'm a mystery bliss that I don't find And I know I'll always miss and I don't mind Constant inner battle Rejoice in a meadow It's a momentary bliss that I don't find. And I know I'll always miss, but I don't mind.
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