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George Fisher streams Disney TRON: Legacy pinball, discusses industry dynamics and used market deals.
Deep Root has not yet released a pinball machine despite being discussed in the community
high confidence · George Fisher comment: 'It's really hard to judge a company except by the person when they haven't put out anything, with the exception of the person who is the face.'
American Pinball ownership structure may prioritize business/financial testing over pure pinball passion
medium confidence · George Fisher: 'I'm basing that entirely off of Kaneda's interview. Uh, sorry. You can't, I don't know that you can call it an expose, but, um, but it was actually a really well done podcast where he did nothing but investigate kind of the financials and the people backing American Pinball.'
Zen Studios could not obtain licensing for Plants vs Zombies on FX3
medium confidence · George Fisher: 'Granted, on the other hand, Zen couldn't get plans for zombies on FX3 either. Yeah, I'm looking at EA in both cases because screw them, okay?'
Used pinball machines can be found for very low prices ($300-$400) on apps like LetGo and Offer Up
high confidence · Chat user Captain Retro: 'I've never even heard of Let Go. Check out MPT3K's emotes. Those are awesome. We're going to need a beer here pretty soon. keep it going here' and 'uh let go and offer up they're pretty neat uh thanks right orbit right ramp equals rinsler combo that's exactly how it got sucked in i got a judge dread for 300 bucks'
A collector restored a Judge Dredd machine for $900 total and sold it 6 months later for $3,500, which started their arcade restoration business
high confidence · Captain Retro: 'i got a judge dread for 300 bucks that was missing a lot of stuff uh brought it back to life for under 1200 and all sold it about six months later for 3500 that started my business five years ago of restoring and repairing and selling arcade pinball machines.'
Space Cadet Pinball (original, non-demo version) got people interested in pinball and inspired Deep Root to want to build a physical machine
medium confidence · George Fisher: 'I've heard nothing but great things. In fact, I think Pinball Wiz, the most recent podcast from, was it Super Awesome? I didn't finish listening to it, but it's all about an interview with the guy from Deep Root. I can't think of his name right now, but the guy from Deep Root apparently really wanted to build a physical version of Space Cadet because that got him and a lot of other people, I think, into pinball.'
“I look at Deep Root as the national inquirer of pinball. Just a lot of talk, and it's mostly about nothing.”
George Fisher@ 11:06 — Expresses skepticism about Deep Root's credibility and activity level as a manufacturer
“I'm jazzed about if they don't go out of business. I'm jazzed for another manufacturer who takes pinball seriously with a group of individuals who take it just as seriously as everyone else involved.”
George Fisher@ 11:20 — Shows cautious optimism about Deep Root as a competitor if they succeed, valuing dedication to the craft
“And I'm basing that entirely off of Kaneda's interview. Uh, sorry. You can't, I don't know that you can call it an expose, but it was actually a really well done podcast where he did nothing but investigate kind of the financials and the people backing American Pinball.”
George Fisher@ 11:55 — References an investigation into American Pinball's financial backing and business structure, suggesting prior media coverage of the company's operations
“It's the Seinfeld of pinball. It's a show about nothing.”
[name withheld pending review]@ 12:34 — Community member's humorous take on Deep Root's lack of output, echoing George's skepticism
“i got a judge dread for 300 bucks that was missing a lot of stuff uh brought it back to life for under 1200 and all sold it about six months later for 3500 that started my business five years ago of restoring and repairing and selling arcade pinball machines.”
CaptNRetro@ 58:46 — Demonstrates profitable arbitrage opportunity in pinball restoration market, illustrating secondary market dynamics
gameplay_signal: Portal mode on Tron Legacy is extremely difficult to achieve; George has come within one shot in previous attempts but has not completed it
high · George: 'I'm really hoping for Portal. Like, that's always been the goal. I think we got to within one shot of Portal the last time. It was a bit of a letdown. Just a hair.'
gameplay_signal: Tron Legacy features named combo shots (e.g., 'Sirens Combo' for Quora-to-Gem), add-a-ball opportunities in Recognizer multiball, and complex mode interactions
high · George describes hitting Recognizer three times to get add-a-ball in Quora multiball; chat references combo shot names from Colorado Pinball streams
market_signal: Used pinball machines available at significant discounts on consumer apps (LetGo, Offer Up); viable arbitrage opportunity for restoration and resale at 10x markup
high · Captain Retro purchased Judge Dredd for $300, restored for ~$900 total, sold for $3,500 six months later; reports finding Transport Rescue for $400; used 2-3k games for 'couple hundred bucks'
industry_signal: Community skepticism about Deep Root's status as legitimate manufacturer due to no product releases despite lengthy development period
high · George: 'Deep Root as the national inquirer of pinball. Just a lot of talk, and it's mostly about nothing.' and 'It's really hard to judge a company except by the person when they haven't put out anything'
industry_signal: American Pinball's financial structure and ownership backing were subject to detailed investigation/podcast analysis suggesting business model may prioritize financial returns over pure pinball passion
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Disney TRON: Legacy has a Portal mode that is difficult to reach and has been a community goal
high confidence · George Fisher: 'I'm really hoping for Portal. Like, that's always been the goal. I think we got to within one shot of Portal the last time. It was a bit of a letdown. Just a hair.'
Fort Collins, Colorado received significant snowfall (about a foot and a half) on the day of streaming
high confidence · George Fisher: 'If we didn't just get like a foot and a half of snow today in Fort Collins, it would have been gone on Sunday. But we got a lot of snow.'
“The flow is great.”
George Fisher@ 67:27 — Positive assessment of Tron Legacy's playfield flow despite noting lazy artwork
“Alcohol, the cause of and solution to all of life's problems.”
[name withheld pending review]@ 18:03 — Humorous community interaction during casual gameplay
“This is what happens when you cut your own hair, so uh pin's hair looked bad.”
George Fisher@ 13:20 — Personal aside showing George's self-deprecating humor and offline context for the stream
medium · George references Kaneda's podcast investigation into American Pinball's financials and ownership; characterizes ownership as 'using it as a test bed' for family business rather than pinball-first approach
licensing_signal: EA Games licensing restrictions prevented Zen Studios from including Plants vs Zombies on FX3 digital pinball platform
medium · George: 'Granted, on the other hand, Zen couldn't get plans for zombies on FX3 either. Yeah, I'm looking at EA in both cases because screw them, okay?'
content_signal: Don't Panic Flip uses Twitch Pinball Network widget for automated streaming schedule display across network partners with timezone conversion
high · George describes TPN widget that pulls from Google Calendar and auto-rotates streams; displays schedule with automatic timezone conversion for viewers
community_signal: Strong secondary market for pinball restoration and resale; collectors finding deep bargains and building businesses through arbitrage, indicating healthy aftermarket demand
high · Captain Retro's 5-year restoration business started with single $300 machine flip; reports frequent deals on LetGo/Offer Up; community discusses machine trading and condition assessments
venue_signal: Captain Retro planning to open retro arcade music venue in near future, contingent on post-pandemic reopening
medium · Captain Retro: 'I have plans on doing a Retro Shop arcade music venue in the very near future, unless we can never go outside again. Really hoping that's not the case.'
design_innovation: Tron Legacy praised for excellent playfield flow despite noted weakness in artwork quality
high · Captain Retro: 'It's a great game with somewhat lazy artwork on the playfield, but the flow, the flow!' George confirms: 'Yes, Captain Retro, you're absolutely right. The flow is great.'
operational_signal: Professional pinball content streaming requires significant prep work including scene setup, pinball cabinet positioning, audio/video configuration, and last-minute troubleshooting
high · George spent full day in meetings/work, had to move machines last-minute, adjust camera filters, fix audio levels, manage Nightbot connectivity issues during stream prep
sentiment_shift: Cautious optimism about Deep Root as a potential genuine competitor IF they successfully launch, contingent on not going out of business
medium · George: 'I'm jazzed about if they don't go out of business. I'm jazzed for another manufacturer who takes pinball seriously with a group of individuals who take it just as seriously as everyone else involved.'