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SDTM: a pinball show Episode 16: Top 10 Dream Themes

Straight Down the Middle·video·41m 11s·analyzed·May 8, 2017
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TL;DR

SDTM hosts rank dream pinball themes with creative mechanic ideas; announce Flippin' Out Pinball sponsorship.

Summary

Zach Sharpe and Greg from Straight Down the Middle podcast discuss their top 10 dream pinball themes they'd like to see manufactured. They announce Flippin' Out Pinball as their first sponsor and cover themes ranging from Universal Mummy and Beetlejuice to Toy Story, Harry Potter, Led Zeppelin, and others, with detailed brainstorming about potential gameplay mechanics and features for each.

Key Claims

  • Flippin' Out Pinball is distributing Jersey Jack Pinball, Chicago Gaming Company, and American Pinball machines including Houdini Master of Mystery

    high confidence · Zach Sharpe and Greg announcing sponsorship partnership

  • Scooby-Doo pinball is likely to be made because someone owns the license

    medium confidence · Greg's speculation that 'if you own those licenses, you're going to hopefully things work out'

  • Stern has or may have the Jaws license based on 'little hints'

    low confidence · Greg uncertain about Stern owning Jaws license; Zach expresses skepticism

  • A Nightmare Before Christmas pinball is being made by a one-off builder encountered at Pinball Expo

    medium confidence · Greg mentions meeting makers at Pinball Expo last year; it's flippable with coded video screen and modes

  • Back to the Future pinball is a poor game despite being based on a great film

    medium confidence · Zach states 'Out of the box, it sucks'; Greg agrees it's not great gameplay

  • Stern's recent LCD games (Batman and Aerosmith) have no video modes

    high confidence · Greg directly states 'Stern's new LCD, the last two, Batman and Aerosmith, no video modes'

  • Toy Story pinball feels like it should be a Jersey Jack Pinball / Pat Lawlor game

    medium confidence · Zach's opinion based on JJP's design philosophy of 'packed toys' and handcrafted work

  • People on Pinside are calling for Jaws pinball

    low confidence · Greg mentions 'a lot of people are calling for it' without specifics

Notable Quotes

  • “We're real! We had Tee'd Off talk him into it, and then he said no, and then we had Tee'd Off beg, just said, can you at least use it with your permission? He was like, guys, fine, I'm just joking.”

    Zach Sharpe@ 0:08 — Humorous anecdote about securing first sponsor for the podcast

  • “Out of the box, it sucks. Really? Yeah, I see. I'm just joking. I guarantee there's some people out there with Back to the Future, and they're like, no, actually, he's right. It does suck.”

    Zach Sharpe@ 16:34 — Critical assessment of Back to the Future pinball quality

  • “It'd be fantastic. We shouldn't have told them about it, though. That's great. Somebody's going to copy it. If they do, it's all us.”

    Greg@ 6:42 — Joking about their original Beetlejuice mechanic ideas (three-times lock trigger)

  • “You've got a big screen. Stern's new LCD, the last two, Batman and Aerosmith, no video modes. Yeah. And why? Let's make use of it.”

    Greg@ 22:05 — Criticism of Stern's LCD implementation lacking video mode integration

  • “It feels like it should be a Jersey Jack Pinball game. It feels like it should be a Pat Lawlor, Jersey Jack Pinball game. Because you need the packed toys like Jersey Jack Pinball does.”

    Zach Sharpe@ 21:12 — Assessment of Toy Story's design fit with JJP's manufacturing philosophy

  • “The Muppets is just a classic theme. It is. It spans from the 70s all the way up to the 2000s.”

    Greg@ 19:09 — Defense of Muppets as timeless theme with broad generational appeal

Entities

Zach SharpepersonGregpersonFlippin' Out PinballcompanyJersey Jack PinballcompanyAmerican PinballcompanyChicago Gaming CompanycompanyStern PinballcompanySpooky Pinballcompany

Signals

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    business_signal: Flippin' Out Pinball announced as first official sponsor of Straight Down the Middle podcast; represents content creator monetization and distributor marketing strategy

    high · Zach Sharpe and Greg celebrate first sponsor announcement; Flippin' Out distributes multiple manufacturer lines (JJP, Chicago Gaming, American Pinball)

  • ?

    community_signal: Flippin' Out Pinball producing custom modifications (Hobbit ring mod, themed coin doors) and sponsoring content creation; represents manufacturer-adjacent ecosystem

    high · Hosts mention Flippin' Out produces 'The Hobbit mods, the ring mod' and 'custom coin doors' with dragon artwork for Attack from Mars

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Jersey Jack Pinball characterized by 'packed toys' philosophy and handcrafted aesthetic; hosts believe Toy Story conceptually aligns with JJP's design approach under Pat Lawlor

    medium · Zach: 'Because you need the packed toys like Jersey Jack Pinball does. You need that. Not overdone, but just handcrafted, beautiful piece of work in Toy Story.'

  • ?

    licensing_signal: Scooby-Doo pinball licensing status uncertain but hosts speculate manufacture is likely if license holder would sell or develop; similar uncertainty about Stern's Jaws license status

    medium · Greg: 'Because why would somebody buy them from that person if they're not going to be made?' and on Jaws: 'I think Stern's got that license... Well, the little hints. Yeah, I have no clue.'

  • $

    market_signal: Hosts discuss crossover theme appeal (Toy Story, Muppets, Scooby-Doo) spanning age demographics and emotional investment as design consideration

Transcript

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0:00
Hey Greg, guess what? What's that, Zach? Dude, we got our first sponsor. How freaking awesome is that? We're real!
0:08
We had to talk him into it, and then he said no, and then we had to beg, and then he said no, and then we just said, can you at least use it with your permission? He was like, guys, fine, I'm just joking. So our first official sponsor for Straight Down the Middle, a pinball show, is Flippin' Out Pinball. You can catch Flippin' Out Pinball at F-L-I-P. Oh, I started spelling this out loud. F-L-I-P, the letter N-O-U-T, pinball.com. Flippin' Out Pinball. Yeah, or you can call. Larry is the owner of Flippin' Out Pinball. You've seen one of our videos with Larry. He's a freaking awesome guy, very knowledgeable, helpful, a great distributor. He produces things. So he's got Jersey Jack machines. He's got Chicago Gamers. Chicago Gaming. Yep. And now he's got American Pinball. Yep. So he's going to be doing Houdini's. Yeah. How exciting is that? Whichever is going to be fantastic. So we're really excited to partner up with Flippin' Out Pinball. We're going to go to Larry's here soon and do some recording and hopefully get our hands on all of the new fun stuff that you guys want. Yeah. Call Larry up. He'll get you the best damn machine in, you know. And since I got a basement, I'm going to try to talk Larry out of one of those sweet Escalaras. He's got Escalaras. Yeah. So we don't have to break our backscaring pins down here. I just strap it. You guys probably have talked to Larry at the different shows. He and his wife are really sweet, kind people. Very, very nice people. They make the Hobbit mods, the ring mod. Yes, the ring mod is beautiful. And the custom coin doors. Yes, with the dragon. The dragon, the attack from Mars. The attack from Mars, they're getting ready to release. And they're working on another one. I don't think we were allowed to say yet, but he's working on another one for a band pin. Oh. Yeah, so that ought to be pretty cool for those custom coin doors. And if you guys want to know that band, go back to our other video where we have a special presentation and he tells you. Yes. It's a special presentation with Larry from Flippin' Out Pinball. It's one of our older videos. Actually, one of our first videos. So he was awesome back then, too. He's just a really cool guy. So if you want Houdini, call Larry. If you want Dialed In, call Larry. If you want Attack from Mars remake, call Larry. Anything else, call the guy up. He's really nice to deal with. Good prices, fair prices. Yeah, we couldn't be prouder to be able to represent him. So, Larry, thanks a lot. Very much. Go check out Flippin' Out Pinball. Let's get to the show. Yep.
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medium · Zach on Toy Story: 'If you Pinside, you know who the Pinside badasses are? Yeah. And then when Toy Story comes up, they soften up.' Greg on Muppets: 'It spans from the 70s all the way up to the 2000s'

  • ?

    announcement: Nightmare Before Christmas pinball confirmed in development by independent one-off builder; playable prototype with coded video modes exhibited at Pinball Expo

    medium · Greg: 'they had it there. It was flippable. Yeah. And even they've coded the video screen and the modes. Oh, I see. And the layout on that, you guys, the layout on that was just freaking killer.'

  • ?

    product_concern: Back to the Future pinball criticized as poor gameplay implementation despite iconic film IP and appearance-based appeal

    medium · Zach: 'Out of the box, it sucks.' Greg: 'I mean, you want to own that pin now, but it's just not a good pin... No, I promise you guys. It's not great.'

  • ?

    rumor_hype: Speculation that Jaws pinball 'is going to get made' based on community demand and hints of Stern ownership; confidence low due to unclear sourcing

    low · Greg: 'a lot of people are calling for it. It's going to get made. I don't know if that's a theme that I'm...' (trails off uncertain)

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    technology_signal: Stern's recent LCD games (Batman, Aerosmith) lack video modes despite large screens; hosts express frustration about underutilization of hardware capability

    high · Greg: 'Stern's new LCD, the last two, Batman and Aerosmith, no video modes. Yeah. And why? Let's make use of it.'

    • 2:45
    What's happening, everybody? This is Zach and Greg from Straight Down the Middle, a stupid, simple, old pinball show, right? It's great. I enjoy it. This week we're going to do a top ten list. Gregory, you ready for that? I'm ready for it. So this is compliments of, on our YouTube page, Trucks and More. Heads up, Trucks and More. Thanks for the suggestion. He said, or she, might be a chick. It could be a chick. Might be a chick. He said, why don't you guys do a top ten list of themes that you guys would like to see made in pinball? And he said, I'd really like to see a Camaro pin be made. Yeah. Do you agree on that? I mean, it'd be nice. Would you buy a Camaro pin? No. But I wouldn't buy a Mustang. Mustang's a really good pin. So I'm not saying it wouldn't be a good pin. I'd be okay if they redid the Corvette.
    3:27
    Oh, yeah. That's the Chevrolet sports car. Agreed. Camaro's cool. I've had a couple, but... Yeah. Agreed. I was the high schooler. It was a good idea. It was actually a... I can see that one. I wanted to buy one, though, too. Country schools, man. You loved Camaros. That's why I grew up in a country school. We loved them. For sure. But, I mean, it was a fantastic idea to do that. So we actually rearranged some filming to fit this in because it was actually a fantastic idea. So truck some more. Thanks a lot, buddy. Definitely. Or chick. Yeah. So let's start off with number 10. The number 10 theme, we're both going to list 10 on this one. Yeah, because that was the thing. If you go with a ball lock, you go with ramps, you go with back glass or anything else, you can sort of hammer out what's a nice-looking back glass. When there's a pin that hasn't been made, especially theme-wise, then it's so much personal opinion and so much personal investment into it of why you would like that pin to be made. So we actually had to go with separate top tens on this. And truth be told, he had like two or three that I was like, there's no freaking way I'm putting that shit on my… And he had one that I was just like, it's okay, but I mean, I don't know. I've got the tattoo.
    4:40
    No one cares. So we had to go separate top tens on this one. So it's a little change up But hopefully you guys are happy with it Start us off Gregory, number 10 What's your number 10 thing that you would love to see made? My number 10, I'd like to see the mummy Not necessarily the Brendan Fraser mummy But I'd like to see a mummy A universal mummy, just like creature When we were discussing this I thought you were talking about the actual Brendan Fraser mummy No I mean it'd be nice but I mean it wouldn't sell or anything But I'd just go with a Boris Karloff mummy Boris Karloff? I'd go with any kind of mummy man I love Egyptian stuff and you can do like a sarcophagus ball lock. I mean, there's a lot you can do. It's kind of been done on Monster Bash. Yeah, it's sort of had. I mean, you don't want to shoot the pyramid. Oh, shoot the pyramid. No, you don't want that to happen. But, I mean, there's different features you can do. I think if you did Universal Mummy, that would be cool. It would be really cool. I mean, there's a lot of different things that you can do. Especially if you themed it like they did Creature. Yeah, I like that. I like that a lot. Go old school with it.
    5:41
    Maybe even black and white video. Yeah, black and white video would be nice. I'd be fine with that. But, yeah, The Mummy. So, number 10, The Mummy. So, number 10 on my list. I think you may have it actually higher up. I have this, but it's higher. So, we can still discuss it. So, number 10, I would love to see a Beetlejuice pin being made. Fantastic. And not based, I guess based off the film itself. Yeah, yeah. Remember the cartoon? Yeah, the cartoon was kind of funny. It was. Yeah, but Michael Keaton and Tim Burton, they're Beetlejuice. Just the music, the tone of the entire movie. Oh, my gosh, yeah. You could throw the bridge in there. Oh, it would be. Oh, great. Even the facial, the claymation facial. Yes. You know, you maybe even do like the little replica town that he has. Oh, that'd be cool. A little scale model. You could have something with that in there. I didn't even think about that. And maybe even Beetlejuice's grave ball lock and different stuff. I mean, there's... Or like he comes up out of the grave kind of having fun. And grabs the ball. When you call Beetlejuice three times. And you do the ball lock. Ball lock. The three hits. And then he comes out and gets it. Every time you lock it up, it's Beetlejuice. Yeah. Beetlejuice. Yes. And then he comes up and rises. Oh, my gosh. See, it'd be fantastic. We shouldn't have told them about it, though. That's great. Somebody's going to copy it. If they do, it's all us. Yeah, it's all us. We need to seal it in an envelope. This was our idea.
    6:52
    Will they make a Beetlejuice pin? Probably not. Probably not, man. But it is a nostalgic 80s, 90s, campy. Very much so. With it being kind of a horror-themed, in a sense, type thing, then maybe it might be something that appeals to quite a few people. I just think it would be so beautiful, and it'd be awesome, and the music. What's the song when they're sitting around the table? Oh, my gosh. Day-o. Daylight. Oh, man, you got it. It's going to be great. Yeah. And that flame. The hand comes up. Oh, you have that worm, too. Remember the sandworm or whatever. The freaking sandworm. I mean, there's so many possibilities with that. The Michael Keaton call-out. I love Michael Keaton. Hey, I love that. Wait a minute. I love it. Yeah. All right. What's your number nine? Number nine for me was Scooby-Doo. That's awesome. Scooby-Doo, where are you? Yeah. And, man, that's a nice broad pin because, I mean, that's 70s, 80s. That's, you know, even new kids. Like, my kids watch Scooby-Doo quite a bit and stuff. Oh, man, they've done so much with Scooby-Doo. Yeah. How many different movies there's. Yeah. But it has to be based on the 70s cartoon. Yes, yes. Don't stray away. Don't even try. I love Pup Named Scooby-Doo. Yes, Pup Named Scooby-Doo. That's just how immature I am. But that was in our childhood. That's right. In a sense. You know what I'm saying? You had it on your list, though, too. Scooby-Doo? Did you have it on yours? Let's see here. I thought you had it. Yours is on there. Yours might have been a little higher than mine. Well, you know what? That was my number nine as well. Oh! So it's perfect. Look at that. We agreed on something. Number nine, Scooby-Doo. So what was your number eight then? My number eight. Hold up. I think a Scooby-Doo pin is probably going to be made. I think so too.
    8:31
    I think someone owns the license and stuff. So eventually, if you own those licenses, you're going to hopefully things work out. Or they're going to sell them off to somebody that can do it. It's going to make it, yeah. Because why would somebody buy them from that person if they're not going to be made? Scooby-Doo would be so great with an LCD. Exactly. And especially since the license, you know that it's been bought or it's out there, then you know that the potential is there. It's not some floating theme or license that just no one can obtain or nobody can get a hold of. Very true. All right, so that was my number nine. So my number eight, you want to hear my number eight? The Beatles. The Beatles music pin. Yeah. That's like the Star Wars of music. A lot of people would agree. But here's my thought. You're not a Beatles guy. No. You don't like good music. I like their music, but I'm just not. It's like the Rolling Stones. I enjoy the Stones. I like their music, but I'm just not. Don't compare the Stones to the Beatles. I'm not comparing them. I'm just saying it's one of those things where I enjoy it, but I'm not. So what would you like to see in the Beatles? My thought is the Yellow Submariner. Gigi, stop licking. Oh.
    9:37
    Gigi is his wife. And that was inappropriate. I'm sorry, guys. That's my dog. She's a licker. That's right.
    9:46
    You got to control it. Gigi. Gigi, come over here for the camera. She'll come. Come on. Look at Dad. Come on. Come here.
    9:58
    Let's go. Move or lose it, sister. Come on over here. Come on. Gigi. You want to be on camera? Here. Right here. Little. Hand her this way. Hurry up. We're wasting video time. So much video time to show a dog. People are logging off right now This is Gigi Here your Gigi baby She is a licker This look as much shit as Greg gives me for non things this my friends is the most non-masculine rat dog I've ever seen. Look, she was trying to lick you. Look at her. She's like shaking right now. She's like a damn chihuahua. It's her first time on camera. Oh. You still the spotlight, Gigi? Everybody gets scared. Yes. All right. Bye, Gigi. See you later, G. All right. So where were we at? The Beatles. Yeah. But the Yellow Submarine cartoon artwork would be really cool. Maybe some live action stuff in the video. It'd be nice. Like I said, if I was a better fan. But man, are those licenses. You can make it so, no, you're never going to need a license, but you can make it so deep with having eras. You know how the Alien pen has Alien, Alien. Oh, yeah. You could have 70s. Exactly. 60s, 70s. That'd be really cool. It'd be a good pen. I'd play it. What's your number eight, dude? Jaws. And that's a pen a lot of people are begging for. I think Stern's got that license. Do they? Well, the little hints. Yeah, I have no clue. I agree. Man, sometimes I just think they have their license. Yeah, I like it. You just do a lot with the orca and do something with Jaws and everything else. I mean, it's a neat thing.
    11:30
    I don't know exactly what I'd want to do with it. I'm afraid it'd be kind of Baywatch. The music would be pretty cool. The music would be really good. Yeah, because even like the undertone in the, it's not just the dun-dun-dun. Like the film's undertone in casual music. Yeah, if you did, you know, kind of like Back Alley did with Spider-Man with their cityscape and stuff. If you did something like that with the town. Yeah, like the harbor and stuff. It'd be a beautiful pin. But you almost want a big head of jaws to come up somewhere. Yeah, but you don't want it corny. Like you can't go over the top and do something. What about like the thing hand? How it's hidden from water. Yeah. And then it comes out. Well, and maybe have a shark fin that moves through the play field somehow. They get to hit like a mass point? Magnetic or something, or even something that carried itself across the play field. It'd be kind of neat. There's options. And a lot of people are calling for it. It's going to get made. I don't know if that's a theme that I'm... Yeah, you're not a big Jaws fan. I love Jaws. I'm big on it. So what was your number? Did you do number eight? I asked you. It was your Beatles. So what was your number seven? Number seven for me would be the greatest band pinball machine ever, which is not Kiss, and it's not ACDC. ACDC was cool. Not Metallica. It's not Aerosmith. It's freaking Led Zeppelin. Led Zeppelin would kill. And I'd have to agree with you on that. I love Led Zeppelin. Zeppelin is very good. It'd be a great pin. I agree. Just think the Immigrant song, just starting up right at the beginning there. It'd be amazing. Kashmir, Stairway to Heaven, Wizard Mode, like the freaking 12-minute song. And we've discussed before about how Zeppelin, it'd make a good pin. It'd be a good pin. I'd like it. If there's going to be a band that needs to be made next. Can you think of a better band than Zeppelin? Maybe. We talked about this. Yeah, with the Motley Crue maybe. You'll see it with Metallica. Yeah, but I mean, I'm not saying that it would be better than Zeppelin. Because Zeppelin. Zeppelin is so good. So good. That spans a lot of eras too. So what was your number seven, my friend? This one's going to shock you. No, nothing shocks me with you. DuckTales. Yeah, that did shock me. Gotta have a DuckTales pin. I don't think it would be a big seller or anything if it was made. But, I mean, think about all the different stuff. The money bin. It could almost be like Aerosmith's, the ball locker, where you lock balls in the money bin, and then it dumps them out. Gold balls? Gold balls. You do gold balls? Yeah. And then I like, you remember at the first of it, because it was in one episode during the intro, with the mine cart. You've got a whole mine cart thing that moves your ball around or does something. Around the ramp? Yeah, yeah, and does different stuff. It goes into a mine cart, and then it'll hit the end and dump your ball back out at the end. So instead of like an actual ramp, the ball goes up, falls into a mining cart, goes winding down. I'll never make that. No, because it's so complicated. They don't want to spend that money. But I mean, you've got so many. You want to darken it, though. You want to do that very adventurous. It's one of my favorite cartoons ever. Yeah. I agree. But I don't know about having it in my game. But like I said, you want to darken it up a little bit and make it more adventurous, like the DuckTales movie. Maybe it was a little darker and just a little more adventurous. Yeah, it was fun. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, you can do a lot of it. With the genie. Yeah Yes That's what I'm saying You have a lamp in there I remember It's so fantastic So you just don't want to do it Just solely based on Our themes are funny Because they're somewhat like A little bit juvenile But it's our nostalgic childhood I think it's the 80s childhood Yeah What do you think of Some of the stuff That's coming out You guys There's not going to be Any badass themes in here No They're just fun themes That you'd want to own I think so too It's so great So where are you at What was your I was at Zeppelin I needed a number of mine Oh you did Zeppelin Okay so Now we're at six. All right, what's your six? My six, and it's already sort of being made, Nightmare Before Christmas. Well. How neat would that pin be? And it's being manifested. Another Tim Burton. Yeah. I think Tim Burton calls for pinball. Gosh, I agree. I love that. Yeah. The film itself, the claymation, all of that stuff. And so it's being made. Do you remember who's making it? It's a one-off. Yeah, it's a one-off. But that's what I'm saying. Do you know who's making it? I don't know the name of the guy. Really nice guys that are making it. I met at Chicago Expo last year. And they had it there. It was flippable. Yeah. And even they've coded the video screen and the modes. Oh, I see. And the layout on that, you guys, the layout on that was just freaking killer. And if it turns out something good, maybe they'll do like total annihilation. Total nuclear annihilation. Nuclear annihilation. Yeah. Okay. And that's a cool enough theme that Spooky, that's another one that could be picked up by Spooky. It could be. Because it fits. They still got a lot of work to do. Yeah. Because they're going all out on it. Yeah. But I mean, the possibility is there. So that's a great theme. I like that. What was yours? That was your six? Six, yeah. My number six was, let's actually fix Back to the Future and make it a good pin. And I've got Back to the Future on mine, too. It's just a little bit higher up. Well, we can talk about yours now because yours is five. Okay, fine. So my five and his six are Back to the Future. Greg, how awesome would it be to have a nice Back to the Future? Gosh, man. It's one of the greatest films ever. Yes, I mean, you want to own that pin now, but it's just not a good pin. I mean, it's okay pin. No, it's not. No, I promise you guys. It's not great. All of what I've played has been really bad shape, so I can't judge it too much. Guess what? Out of the box, it sucks. Really? Yeah, I see. I'm just joking. I guarantee there's some people out there with Back to the Future, and they're like, no, actually, he's right. It does suck. I don't know. I just have it just because it looks good. Yeah, and you don't own it only because of that. They have the faces that are different because they couldn't get the actors to sign off. Yeah, it's a little, it's, but you want to own that thing. It reminds me of Hook. Yeah. He played that shitty game. Yes. I wanted Hook because I actually enjoyed the movie. I love Dustin Hoffman and all that stuff Hookers are great but the pin it's just one shot oh it's horrible that's how Back to the Future ah it's so bad so yeah I could do so much with the DeLorean and the different films and all of that ah I love it I'm trying to think what you can have as a topper maybe the DeLorean itself as the topper skull wings that open up on it and stuff yeah and then lights like LED white I wish there was some way to do like smoke effects you always want to do all the moisture and you can't do that yeah inside of a game house stick with that baby just like I love it but maybe you could have it where the DeLorean at least lifted up and the wheels folded under like just a megan again I'm thinking of Stern every time I think of this and I'm like little servos you're going to get headlights on the DeLorean but there's competition no you might get a latch that just like flings open the wings never shut you got to reach in and close them back but it's still it's an awesome pin so how much would you guys love back to the future. Damn, that would be good. That's the next thing next to Ghostbusters that would be... Oh, and by the way. Oh yeah, you guys check it out. I finally decided.
    18:06
    Ghostbusters. And would you go with the premium in L.E., right? No. No, the pro. That's where it's at. And I'm going to spend a little bit on mods. No, you won't. Like a hundred bucks, I'm kidding. Look at his topper. How beautiful is that? Actually, you know what? They can't see it. I think that's where they're at. But you guys have seen it in our one of our like our original our very first videos and stuff there was Zach had the ghost trap yeah you're going to LED it and make it really cool yeah and people are going to pince on you and they're going to be like oh can I get that because somebody said that on our original it was like all one of those ghost traps I was going to do that but yeah fantastic so that's number five number six for me five for me is two three four five oh the Muppets oh my god the Muppets are hilarious yes but that's the best It's the most childhood theme ever. And adult. It like crosses over. It is adult. Because they're funny. Tell me, if you see them on like The Chef, they're kind of raunchy. It is kind of a, it's sort of an adult. Yeah. They do a lot of, they kind of end-to-end stuff that adults will catch and kids won't. Some adult humor. Yeah. The Muppets is just a classic theme. It is. It spans from the 70s all the way up to the 2000s. I wouldn't own it, but I have to agree that it's a good game. Some of my thoughts like have an upper play field that's a stage. Oh. How cool is that? Yeah. You got a monster on the drums or something up there. Oh, animal. Animal. Animal monster shit. Yeah, but animal. Yeah, it's animal on the drums, like on a coil or something. I think the funnest thing in that theme, picture, you know how Steve Ritchie rips you in ACDC, playing better and all that stuff. Think of Statler and Waldorf. Oh, my gosh. Just on the side over there and just bells are cracking at you like, oh, he sucks. But what? Would you have Bert and Ernie? Oh, yeah, you have to have Bert and Ernie. No, they're Sesame Street. Oh, it's Sesame Street. Oh, my. The F with Bert and Ernie. We're with Gonzo. They can make their way back down to Sesame Street. Oh, failure on my end. Bert and Ernie. Would be interested in Bert and Ernie. They're so corny. I was just like. Oh, yeah. It's Bert and Ernie. No, you have to have Kermit. You have to have Gonzo. You have to have Miss Piggy. You have to have Fozzie Bear. You have Rizzo the Rat. Who didn't love Fozzie? Oh, Rizzo the Rat would be a neat little thing because he's kind of. He's kind of raunchy. Kind of that raunchy guy. Yeah, and the shrimp, like the krill. He's like, the krill. Yeah, is it a name, krill?
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    He's having Papa bother him. The Muppets. That a good impersonation All right so the Muppets So what is your number four man My number four and this is being called for too And people are hoping that JJP will make it of all people Toy Story. Toy freaking Story. There's a lot you can do with Toy Story. And that spans some generations, too. It's a younger generation than us. But even adults like I've never literally seen anybody say, eh, Toy Story. If you pin side, you know who the pin side badasses are? Yeah. And then when Toy Story comes up, they soften up. They're like, I actually like it. That's what I'm saying. It's an odd thing, man. It's toys and stuff, and it's kind of a corny, goofy thing, but it's a fantastic movie, and everybody loves it. It spans the generations. It made Pixar, man. It feels like it should be a J.J.P. game. It feels like it should be a Pat Lawler, J.J.P. game. Because you need the packed toys like J.J.P. does. You need that. Not overdone, but just handcrafted, beautiful piece of work in Toy Story. Completely. I had that actually up further along on my list. We can talk about it now, though. So some of the things in Toy Story that are going to be awesome. Zerg video mode. Yes. Like, I think even the dinosaur Rex is playing a video game. Like, to replicate that, make that a video mode. I agree. I'd like to see J.J.P. do video modes on that big-ass screen. Yeah, because it gives you a reason to look up, because that has been my chief complaint about LCDs, going with that bigger screen is you don't have time to look up. There's so much going on. I don't look at it. Make the play field go black. Exactly. Left and right. Exactly. You've got a big screen. Stern's new LCD, the last two, Batman and Aerosmith, no video modes. Yeah. And why? Let's make use of it. I agree. You've got to have a reason to look up. Because you don't want lulls in your ball times. You don't want anything to give you a chance to look up, really. That's true. Because it kills the game. The story would be a perfect way. So Zerg, and then also I think the coolest ball lock for Toy Story is so picture the potato head in the back the potato head yeah and maybe he's the one that does the call outs because you can probably get that actor to do the call outs but he collects when you ball lock it collects balls behind it or maybe in front of him I don't care he locks balls but then when it's ready for multi ball he turns around and that flap goes down oh and they all come out of his butt yeah oh my gosh it's so cute but it's funny yeah it's funny too and then they come just pouring out it's something you want to hit Oh my gosh That'd be crazy That'd be so good man Yeah I think that'd be awesome Then you could do like Mini wizard modes For each film Toy Story 1 Toy Story 2 Toy Story 3 Kind of like the Hobbit You can actually do some With the army men too I don't know what you do You have to do all of them They're fantastic You have to do all of them Snooki So that was your I'm losing track That was my number 4 That was your number 4 Did I give you my number 4 1, 2, 3, 4 No my 4 Is your It's pretty high up If not the top for you My number four is Harry Potter. Oh.
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    Some people wrote on our YouTube about how much they want Harry Potter. It is. Because there's so much you can do. I mean, you can do hidden ball-lock type things, almost like with a shadow. Like with a wall and stuff. That would be fantastic. I was just trying to think about the features they could have. It's so vast that it's hard for me to even pinpoint what could be done. I know. It's the same thing. I try to think what we could do because another thing would be like the Marauder's Map. Like if you had footprints that lit up across and just little bitties, very small inserts that just light up. Or maybe no inserts. Maybe it's under like a framed insert under it with an LED, but you don't see the insert on top that way. Well, that's what I'm saying. It literally just looks like a part of the play field, but then it lights up and it's very subtle. And it walks your way and that can tell you where you're shot at. You have to have magnets in that thing. Oh, my gosh, yeah. You could have like a wand fight or something with the ball where you've got to hit the destroyer. I thought maybe even, again, video mode, a Quidditch video mode. Well, I thought about a Quidditch thing, too, where you actually have to hit the ball into the rings. At one point, there is maybe a three ring. You know how they have to throw it through the rings? You actually got to hit the ball in it. It's a scoop thing or something. I like that. I think the coolest thing on Harry Potter pinball machine would be have that talking hat as the topper and have a motor, and it actually talks to you, tells you what shots to make. and then when you bear with us we're freaking nerds here but this is great this is fantastic but when you walk up to the machine to start press the start button player one and then it's like this theatrical before you can even start the ball and it picks the house for you yes like by you slithering yes and you don't have any choice yeah that's right you have to you get chosen yeah and it's not far fetched because there was a toy where the hat like bent in the mouth so it's not a crazy thing as a topper to make it's just appropriate so whatever it picks for you You have to play through. And it'd be neat with the RGB to sort of light up the house colors. Oh, yeah. For the majority of the thing. Like Slytherin, you'd be green. Slytherin. You've got your red and gold, your maroon and gold. I'm trying to think what the house names are, though. You've got Slytherin, Hufflepuff. There's a Hufflepuff. Yeah, Hufflepuff. That's you. No, you're Hufflepuff. You are Hufflepuff. There's Gryffindor, Slytherin, Hufflepuff, and what's the fourth? Hellfire. Oh, it's going to drive me stupid. I don't know. If I wouldn't have been put on the spot.
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    Ravenclaw. Raven. I love that. And they're purple, aren't they? Raven Hall. All right. So, but that would be awesome. Yes. Copper up there just talking. Oh, yeah. I agree. It's like you said, man. Why can't you have these pictures? And listen to this. I thought about this, too. So, maybe on the back. Yeah. You have changing pictures. Because you've got depth. And you remember how the pictures move? Oh, I love that. Have framed portraits. That would be cool. Up against your back of your play field. And suddenly they move and then dance into the other portraits like it happened. I like that, but you could almost do that better with the video screen. Yeah, but you want it on the plate film, so it's part of it. That'd be tough. That'd be tough, but it'd be so good. You've got enough in the back that you could do it easily. Because I thought, man, down the pin blades on your side art, but I was like, eh, there's no room for that. But on the back, you could do it. That'd be really cool. Yeah, it'd be a different thing. Potter, you'd love it. Oh, my gosh. Do you think that will get made?
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    We're starting to lose our... But they give out their license to quite a bit of stuff. so maybe Warner Brothers it has to be signed off by J.K. Rowling yeah and J.K. Rowling maybe I think they would because it's something you could put at Universal but do you think the theme is going to start getting stale here? no this is why it's because you take the amount of money that Universal has invested in acquiring those rights from another studio to make their own theme park and they're continuing to add to that theme park okay open but I think now's the time more it is the next three years is the time to hit it But I don't think they would have done a large investment that takes a freaking like a third of their park. No. If they did not feel that it was going to be a long-term. Yeah, because of the books and stuff. And it's such a multicultural thing too. That's true. Everyone's accepted. It's not an American thing. Except for Muggles. Yeah, yeah. You're a Muggles. You called me a Muggles. That's so corny. That's so great. Okay. So what are we at? Number three? So we got to say, okay. So let me go this way. I was four. Number three was Beetlejuice on that. On yours. Okay. Yes.
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    And what is... I've got to get my number. My number three, oh, we already talked about it. My number three is Toy Story. Okay. So we talked about those. So we'll go to my number two. Okay. Can we go ahead and reveal where it is on you? Okay. Yeah, this is my number one pick. This is Zach's number one pick. This was my number two pick. I'll let you lead into it. It's The Goonies. Yeah. Well, and number one was Harry Potter, so we covered that just now. So, yeah. The Goonies is, I want that so bad. That's a game that I would happily spend $8,000 on without seeing the playbook. I'd spend a lot. If I know who's doing it, and I like the company, I like the designer, here's my money. Truffle Shuffle? Hey, Truffle Shuffle mode. You've got the Skull Mountain. You have the boat. You have Sloth. You've got, hey, you guys! Come on. It is another one of those works of art. God. You've got to have it not overdone again, but you've got to have the pirate ship. Like you said, Skull Mountain. You've got to have that in there because visually it is beautiful. And guess what else you need? One-eyed Willie Wizard mode. One-eyed Willie Wizard. That could be in a lot of odd things.
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    You've got to have that one-eyed Willie. Keep it PG, Zach. Keep it PG. One-eyed Willie. Isn't that his name? Yeah. But I mean, no. One-eyed Willie. Yeah. It'd be awesome. a treasure. You could do the police chase at the purse. I think for LCD screens, from mode to mode, you're going through the map. Well, yeah. It would be linear. Oh, boy. That's exactly what I was going to say. Yes, make it linear. I agree. I know that people hate Ghostbusters. It's a story. Yes, but that's what I was arguing with Zach. I said, man, he's like, why did you buy Ghostbusters? What made you finally decide on that? I said, because I actually like the fact that it is linear. You don't necessarily have to start it the same every time, but it tells a story, and Ghostbusters is so much about, with the music, with the call-outs, with the way everything goes, it engulfs you in a storyline. In a sense, it's like a video game, where you are levels. You are progressing, and it makes you feel engulfed into that story. And modes get harder. Exactly. And that's the way Goonies need to be, is you need to feel the adventure. People would bitch and moan about it. Too linear! No, but you've got to have that. It's got to tell that story, that adventure. You've got to feel a part of it. I agree. And we've discussed it before. And I think that you have to have, that's the theme that screams wooden side rails, wooden legs. Like beat up. Yes. Make it look like that old planked wood. I just want that big ass Goonies logo on the side of it. Oh, yes. Yeah, don't. Like just the skull is the up or something. Oh, man. You've got the well you can go down. I don't know. All kinds of stuff. All those are modes. Every little stop that they go to is a mode. Like the cafeteria, then they go underground, then they go to the well. You can do a lot with subways behind the... You know be flat we going to be flat Go behind the play field through Skull Mountain There just so many What do you guys think about the Goonies This is my number one pick for top ten things It was close to mine I mean it was Should be made Obviously, it was my number two, but I fought between that and Harry Potter. Yours ended up being Harry Potter for number one. Number one was my Harry Potter, but it just, I fought back and forth because. Do you think the Goonies is just something that we're stuck in because that's our age? Do you think guys in their 50s that were maybe 30 at the time? They might have. I mean, Spielberg resonates with so many people. I mean, we still love adventure. We still love that fun thing. The music. I don't know, man. Guys in their 30s. You have to have Cyndi Lauper music.
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    I would love that. That would be so great. All right. So we know you're number one. We know my number one now. So what's left is my number two, right? Yeah. my number two and you didn't have it on your list which is I couldn't do this one this is the one I couldn't do I enjoy the film I almost had this number one but this is Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory it'd be cool hell yeah it'd be cool but I just I would never buy it oh my god that's another one that I would probably I know I would drop down the money without even no question Gene Wilder's all I need that's what I was going to say I asked you before I said which one are you going to do he did he asked Gene Wilder or Johnny Depp give me a break you don't even belong on the show if you ask which one the actual good one the really good one I think it's one of the most classic films ever made and the music I want all of those songs I want a golden ticket the golden ticket song throughout the main gameplay and then I want each mode to be now these can be random but each mode to be one of the kids oh that is a great idea and then the gum that she blows up. And then you've got Charlie in the bubble room. Then you've got the text shooter with the TV. Because they're so distinct. Augusta drinking the damn chocolate. They're so distinct that it would make for perfect separate modes. That's a brilliant idea. How awesome would that be? And then the wizard mode would be at the end whenever Charlie takes over the factory. And the elevator goes, this is not a good motion for video, I'm sorry. But the elevator, up the chocolate hole. up the chocolate hole we'll just take a second for up the chocolate hole he messed his hole number two up the chocolate hole I messed his number two up that is so great I love myself I can't think of chocolate hole now I keep thinking the mountain of fudge the schnozberries what does he do Are you well versed? No, I like the movie and I know it. The best part of the whole movie is when she says something snippy or something shitty and he grabs her by the face and he's like, we are the dreamers of dreams and something. Oh, I'm messing up. But the boat ride would be cool. Yes. The Oopas. It's so creepy. Just up and down. We're going to have some bouncing Oopas.
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    Maybe not the most politically correct now. That whole movie wasn't. It's the theme. We bought the theme so we can use the Oompa Loompas. Yeah. I actually think it's a good idea. I don't know if I don't like it, but it's cool. It's cool. I know. Especially your mode idea. So what do you guys think about the top ten list? We're going to run them over again. So this is Greg's top ten list of themes that he really would love to see made. Number ten was The Mummy. Number nine, Scooby-Doo. Number eight, Jaws. Number seven, DuckTales. Woo-hoo! Number six, Nightmare Before Christmas. It's a catchy song. Everybody knows that song. It's all great Okay Back on track Nightmare Before Christmas Number six Number five Back to the Future Number four We've lost twelve subscribers After this video That's very possible People love us though Hopefully They'll come back Five is back to the future Now we come out Star Wars review Hang on I will like Star Wars Yeah, damn Muppets and shit. DuckTales. DuckTales, singing a damn song. Sorry for interrupting. No, you're fine, you're fine. Number four, Toy Story. Number three, Beetlejuice. Number two, Goonies. And number one, Harry Potter. So what was yours? Was your Potter Harry?
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    I'm sorry. No. Straight up to chocolate. Okay, what was yours? Number ten, Beetlejuice. Fantastic. Number nine, Scooby-Doo. Where Are You? You have to add the where are you. I'm going to commentate on your picks. Number eight, The Beatles. Number seven, Led Zeppelin. Good. Number six, Back to the Future. Fantastic. Number five, The Muppets. Okay. Number four, Harry Potter. Fan-freaking-tastic. Number three, Toy Story. Fan-freaking-tastic. Number two, Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory at the Chocolate Hole. Yeah, the Chocolate Hole is cool. Okay.
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    Number one, The Goonies. Amazing! Really? I like that. Goonies is sick. Man, even the, what's his name? Data. That's what I said. Booby traps. Yeah, booby trap mode. That's what I said. Yeah, with the chattering teeth. Yeah. I'm sorry you guys had to deal with this for the last half hour or so. But it was fantastic. It was so fun. It's a neat thing. Again, trucks and more. Thank you, dude. Yeah, that was awesome. Awesome idea. Well, we were going to discuss our theme at some point, our favorite themes. Yeah. But what better? He's right. What better than a top 10 list? Because it just really didn't cross our mind about doing a top 10. We like discussing themes and stuff, but really for whatever reason. And this is your old show. I mean, if you have ideas on what you would like to see on the top ten list. It's cool. We'll make it happen. Shoot them our way. We've got a couple more this and that's that we're going to talk about recently. So we'll do that. Who do you think had the better, well, you're biased. Who do you think had the better top ten list? Oh, right. Yeah. Agreed.
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    Obviously, it's me. Obviously. Obviously, it's me. He likes the chocolate always. Obviously, it's me. that has the best top 10 themed list. I don't think, I think people are probably going to be like, you two are idiots. Yeah. That's what I said. You're both suck. That's right. You're both stupid. Pair of terror. Yeah. Wow. He had no music pins. No, I didn't. I love music. I mean, it's a big part of my life. But, I mean, I just couldn't do it. DuckTales. I'm still a big film fan. You know what, though? I don't want to DuckTales. I love DuckTales. I would, too. All right, guys. From straight down the middle, this is Zach and Greg. Like us on Facebook. Man, our Facebook has exploded since the last video. It's done great. So like us on Facebook, man. I run the social media department over here. So like us on Facebook. Subscribe on YouTube. Literally, we barely missed our mark of 100 subscribers a month. We are just this weekend. We hit. Cool. You're a statistician. We were at three months of having the show going. and we were just shy of hitting our 100 subscribers a month mark, which is pretty fantastic, I think. It works. So keep subscribing, tell your other pinball friends. Even if only two of you guys are watching, we'll keep making these videos. Oh, even if you just think it's funny because you make fun of us, subscribe. Enjoy it. I don't care what you do. Just subscribe and watch us. I don't have the heart for that. But until next week or the next couple of days, check out our other SDTM videos on YouTube or Facebook. Check us out on Pinside as well from straight down the middle. Thank you, guys. What's up, baby? Any intro? Just that. Help you can give me?
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    Oh, I mean... Hello? Can you hear me? Is that how the song goes? I don't know. How does it go? I honestly don't know. Alright, hold up. It's an Adele song. Hello. How does that go?
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    Three, four, five, six. You're the music girl. Hello from the outside. Should I go Beetlejuice or Queen? Beetlejuice. That's number two. Beetlejuice. I don't know. I just hit that high note and felt like Queen.
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    You can relax. Oh, she's taking it easy. Taking it easy. Let's roll. Don't let the sound of your home wheel drive you crazy. Such a beautiful song. Isn't it? It is a great song. I know. Sounds better when I sing it, too.
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    got a cigarette in the bowl my dad smoked so many Marlboros like I was that trashy little kid my mom too Marlboro sleeping bag Marlboro dinnerware my mom was a Salem light gal Virginia Slim so how weird do you think our friendship is it's weird ain't it like we were talking about it the other day I'm like, you met a man on the internet. And you're like best friends now. That's what I would say. Chelsea and I would be a little bit concerned.
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    Chelsea's like, you got your internet boyfriend? Your internet boyfriend's calling? Like your boyfriend's calling. Bet him on Craigslist. It's so funny because it's like clockwork around like certain times of day. You know when the phone rings. Even rolling in and he goes, is that calling? It's like, I know, probably.
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    He's got three people who follow him and two of them are here. So it's probably Zach. I mean, at least we both hate people, so. Yeah, I guess.
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    It's still recording. Mm-hmm. You excited? No. I don't think so.