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FNO Pinball Ep 12: Willy Wonka Pinball Machine

Flip n Out Pinball·video·2h 7m·analyzed·Aug 2, 2019
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TL;DR

FNO streams final Wonka session; discusses JJP hardware fixes and teases next week's game reveal.

Summary

Ken Cromwell, Bill Webb, and Steve Beatty stream Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory by Jersey Jack Pinball on the Flippin' Out Pinball network for the final time. The hosts discuss gameplay, address hardware issues (clear coat rippling, ball trough problems), and mention an upcoming game reveal scheduled for 8 PM Central. Jersey Jack is providing washer kits to address playfield defects.

Key Claims

  • Jersey Jack Pinball is sending washer kits to address rippling/bubbling on Willy Wonka playfields

    high confidence · Zach and hosts discuss specific washer kit fix for clear coat issues on posts

  • Willy Wonka comes without left post installed in out lane by design to accommodate location play

    high confidence · Ken explicitly states machine ships without left post, describes this as significant design choice

  • Star Wars home pinball edition is gaining traction after initial backlash

    high confidence · Ken discusses how community perception has shifted positively; mentions George Gomez discussed this on their podcast

  • George Gomez appeared on Special Woodley Pinball Podcast to discuss Stern's direction including Star Wars home edition

    high confidence · Ken states 'George Gomez on our show tonight' and references podcast airing 'tomorrow'

  • Scott Denise is working on a highly anticipated second game (likely non-TNA based context)

    medium confidence · Ken describes 'Scott also is now working on game number two, highly anticipated game number two' after mentioning TNA

Notable Quotes

  • “The game comes without that left post installed in the out lane, so that's pretty big.”

    Ken Cromwell@ 13:30 — Explains Jersey Jack's intentional design choice for location play vs home play

  • “Now that people are understanding what it is and what it's about, it's gaining some traction, and it's not geared towards pinheads.”

    Ken Cromwell@ 9:25 — Clarifies Star Wars home edition positioning and shifting community sentiment

  • “I think every manufacturer has had some type of play field issue. I mean, you're talking about a piece of wood with paint on top of it.”

    Ken Cromwell@ 18:58 — Contextualizes JJP quality concerns within broader industry standards

  • “They're sending washers for Waka, too.”

    Zach (Flippin' Out owner)@ 16:14 — Confirms Jersey Jack is proactively addressing manufacturing defects

  • “We've got a new game. Yeah, that's right. And the new game, we're going to be back at Studio A...”

    Ken Cromwell@ 6:09 — Teases next week's unannounced machine reveal at 8 PM Central

Entities

Ken CromwellpersonBill WebbpersonSteve BeattypersonZach MinneypersonGeorge GomezpersonScott DenisepersonCarrie HardypersonJersey Jack Pinballcompany

Signals

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    community_signal: Wipinn' Out Pinball implementing active community challenges (PinQuest) with tiered reward structure using Twitch bits

    high · Neil from PinQuest Challenge structured three-tier challenge for Wonka stream with specific point/golden ticket goals

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    market_signal: Star Wars home edition deliberately positioned for mainstream consumers vs hardcore pinball enthusiasts

    high · Ken clarifies 'It's not geared towards us' and 'it was geared towards people that weren't necessarily buy-hard people' but includes commercial-grade parts (no coin door)

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    personnel_signal: George Gomez engaging directly with pinball community through podcast appearances to discuss Stern strategy

    high · Ken references George Gomez appeared on Special Woodley Pinball Podcast 'tonight' to discuss Star Wars and Stern's direction

  • ?

    announcement: Flippin' Out Pinball teasing unannounced next week's machine reveal at 8 PM Central

    high · Ken multiple times references revealing 'the next game that we're going to be streaming next week' scheduled for '8 o'clock Central Time in about 20 minutes'

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    product_strategy: Willy Wonka intentionally ships without left outlane post to optimize for location play

    high · Ken states 'The game comes without that left post installed in the out lane, so that's pretty big' and notes right posts set high at top of three

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Transcript

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0:00
you Thank you. Hey, what's going on, Pinball Land? Welcome to the Flippin' Out Pinball Streaming Network. I am Ken Cromwell. I am Bill Webb. Steve Beatty. Steve Beatty's here. We are in Studio B tonight as we stream Willy Wonka and the Chalka Factory by Jersey Jack Pinball for the final time on the network.
2:50
So it'll be interesting to see what we can do on the machine tonight as the two of us, myself and Bill, we haven't played this since last time we were in Studio B. Steve, have you had more time on the pin? I've had a little bit of time, yes. Okay. Hey, Lord Helmet, Captain 12, NS Pinball, what's going on, guys? How are you? Thanks for coming in the chat. I appreciate it. So what are your thoughts right now at this point? Are you happy with your purchase? Yeah, I'm definitely happy with it. Are you ready to go? It's still, I haven't seen any of the game. I haven't broken 1.5 mil, or just over 1.5, so.
3:20
KRH 2314, good evening. What's going on, guys? PirateCat and RedEye, yo, yo, yo, what's going on, man? A couple quick things. We have our sponsors. Penn Stadium is illuminating the game tonight, so we want to thank Penn Stadium for the sponsorship and for making these games special when lit. And we've got our PennQuest Challenge tonight from Neil, and we've got three tiers. So what Neil discussed with me this afternoon is he said he's going to make this team-based tonight instead of individual-based for the most part. So the three tiers that we have for 1,000 bits, all three players score over 100,000 in the same game, extremely attainable. Tier number two for 1,750 bits. All three players' score add up to 1.65 million. Very attainable. And then tier number three for 2,500 bits. We have any player gets two golden tickets, so we'll see what's going on. 2.65 million over there. NS Pinball, very nice. Two solid weeks. I think that's where I was at, too. I think I'm around 2.5 million. Yeah, I think you're right up there. High score on this game. Geekboard Games. Hey, hey, what's going on? Welcome to chat. And NS Pinball says, the game is difficult and actively attacks you. Lord Helmet, subscribe with Twitch Prime. Thank you, Lord Helmet. That's our guy, Lord Helmet. Appreciate it, man. Dude, I love just starting to stream the stream off with you. Sub, Twitch Prime. Absolutely. GeekWord Games. Wow, that live show is beautiful. Yeah, it's nice. We've got a little Penn Stadium in there, too. And Chris the Pinser. What's up, man? I know you were at Southern Pride Gaming Expo. Before we say anything else, let's get this going, because this is what we're going to do tonight, guys. Hey, 42 Gifts, thank you so much for following the channel. I hope you enjoy stopping in. It's a little bit of a different approach to streaming here, and we have a good time. We'll start a three-player game here on Willy Wonka, and we'll just keep the chat rolling. We're not going to make it a super long night tonight, gentlemen and ladies. Willy Wonka, for the final time, we're going to play this for about an hour or so, try to hit our Pinch West challenges, and then we're going to roll into the after hours, which is the live call-in segment. We're going to do that for an hour. We're going to wrap the stream up at 930 tonight. Give everybody an opportunity to spend time by themselves after their kids have gone to sleep. Absolutely. Right, right.
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Spooky Pinballcompany
Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factorygame
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product_concern: Intermittent ball trough issues reported on Wonka hardware

medium · Host reports ball not catching drain/not reading drain intermittently; describes issue as happening but being unclear on root cause

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    product_concern: Jersey Jack Pinball addressing playfield defects (clear coat rippling/bubbling) with distributed washer kits

    high · Zach confirms washer kits being sent; describes rippling visible on posts if looking for it; notes this is typical on some released machines

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Star Wars home edition initial backlash reversing; gaining positive traction as community understands positioning

    high · Ken: 'Now that people are understanding what it is and what it's about, it's gaining some traction' and notes George Gomez explained company direction on podcast

    • 5:20
    So we'll see what happens. with tonight's pin quest. Oh, Cary. How are you, Cary, man? Thank you, brother. Now, he's subscribed for two months in a row, so I think he's our first repeat sub, Cary. Thank you very much, man. I know how you like that I trap up and how I can control the multiball. Cary. That's the reason I play. Thank you, man. Cary, I hope you're wearing a mask when you're clear-coating, right? Yeah, we'll see. We'll see.
    5:46
    Cary Hardy says he's in the process of clear-coating Hook, so he'll be in and out. The great thing about this stream, guys, is you're not missing any powerful pinball if you just listen to us instead of watching us play pinball. So that's no problem. Keep us out of the background, Kerry.
    6:00
    Let's see. Geek Word Game says, what's the next game in the line of 10? So what we're going to do is we're going to reveal the next game that we're going to be streaming next week. We've got a new game. Yeah, that's right. And the new game, we're going to be back at Studio A in Special Winlet Pinball Podcast Studios. Today we're in Special Winlet Pinball Podcast Studio B, streaming for Flippin' Out, if that's not confusing enough.
    6:22
    Studio B is for Beattie. Beattie, he's our guy. So we'll make that announcement here shortly on what we'll be streaming next, and I think you guys might be a little bit surprised because it's not something that I think too many people would have anticipated, and that'll be fun.
    6:39
    Yeah, it's a surprise game. Surprise game. Surprise, surprise. A couple of shorties there, Bill. Yeah, that was not a stellar ball by any means, but that's okay. Man, I came back the other night. You know how some days you're just on? Oh, yeah. You're hitting every shot, and it was flowing so smooth. And this is the first ball of the day. I just wasn't feeling it, man. Yep. It's a little warm up here. Southwest, Pennsylvania, pinball head. Hey, what's going on? What's up, baby? Yeah, those definitely need to be respected. The left orbit's kind of a mother. P3 would be cool. I don't think that's on the list quite yet, though.
    7:19
    You know, I noticed that red stand-up target to the right, or to the left of that right ramp. That's a killer right there, too. Yeah. What up, Dr. John? Subscribe. Two months. Thanks, man. Thank you, man. Some repeat subs. I love it. And Southwest Pennsylvania Pinhead with 100 bits. Thanks, guys. Man, this is like, I love just coming in here. I love that you guys are showing up, man, because it's every single week. Literally. I look forward to Mondays because, one, Monday is like you've got a lot of podcasts that are released on Mondays. And then I know we look forward to recording our podcast on Monday. And Dr. John, he's a contributor there for Special One Lit. And then we release ours on Tuesdays. But coming here and streaming at nighttime after we record. And we had George Gomez on our show tonight. That was a great episode. So that was fun having him on from Stern. He kind of talks a little bit about what's going on over there. And that's an interesting take. Dead target by factory ramp equals death target. Yes, it does.
    8:17
    Lucas San Diego, what's up, buddy? What's up, Lucas? And there's Kaz, our newest Special Elite correspondent, covering American Pinball. Hey, guys. He said he read on Facebook that it would be Thunderbirds and Zach is the new distributor. Well, that would be surprising to everybody, including ourselves, if the next pin we're going to stream next week is Thunderbirds. So FN Slayer is asking if we can turn our audio off. Are you talking about? Yeah. Which audio? Local or game? He's drowning us out. He's like, turn the game audio up because I don't want to hear you guys, which I don't blame. Game audio? Yeah. As soon as Bill is done with his turn here, we'll go ahead and do that. Now, Neil's here. PinQuest Pinball Official Challenge, as we discussed earlier. Yeah. What's up, Neil? Here we go. They're there now. They're attainable tiers. One, two, three. Three's going to be the most difficult tier tonight, and that is to get the two golden tickets by one person. I've yet to do that, as far as I know.
    9:15
    Colerath15 says, Wish the new Star Wars home pin would have been the pro instead. You know that home version of Star Wars where there was some backlash when it was kind of announced? Now that people are understanding what it is and what it's about, it's gaining some traction, and it's not geared towards pinheads. You're just making your pinball people. It's not. I mean, it's going towards a different demographic, but it'll be interesting to see kind of the cross-preference. Kaz, thanks for the bits, buddy. Thank you, brother. I appreciate it, man.
    9:42
    Go ahead and pick up the board now. We've got Zach in the house. We have got no golden tickets so far as yet.
    9:49
    Dave Fogler, what up, maniacs? What up, dude? Dennis Friesel from Chris the Pinter. What up, buddy? For nine bits.
    10:01
    Kolarith, other than it looks like it's a fine time, just don't think it's worth 14. You know what? That's subjective, though. I mean, it kind of makes sense why they came out with that. That's a good game that should be pretty reliable because there's not a whole lot of stuff inside of it. I could see that doing really well. You know what? Especially for people that want to get in, but they don't want to have a used game that's going to be broken down and stuff like that. So I think it's kind of a good investment as far as that goes. Because it wasn't geared towards us. It was geared towards people that weren't necessarily buy-hard people. You know what? It still has commercial-grade parts in it. Just not coin door. Exactly. It's not accepted money. Can't put it on location. Head Boss Hog, what's going on, dude? Twitch for Lonely Nerds, good morning.
    10:42
    Southwest Pennsylvania Pinhead, thank you for the bits. Ten bits. Ten bits? Yeah. I definitely want to see, get a chance to jump on one of those. Because it looks like a cool game for what it's designed to be. We need you guys to hit over 100 Gs to hit that tier one. If all three of us are over 100,000, that's tier one. I know. You're going to do it. All right.
    11:06
    Zach's here. What's up? Dave Fulgren, what's up? Hey, Zach. So we've got people asking what the next pin is going to be streamed next week. And if you're cool with it, we'll reveal that at 8 o'clock Central Time in about 20 minutes.
    11:19
    And that'll be kind of fun. Head Boss Hogg. Hey, dudes. What's up, Head Boss Hogg? How are you, man?
    11:26
    Twitch? Okay. Twitch for the lonely nerds. It took me a second. I need glasses. Like, the print's too small on this laptop for me to figure out what's going on. And thanks for the bit, Southwest Pennsylvania Pinhead. Always appreciate the support, guys. Absolutely. Thanks, guys. And I'll talk Jurassic Park preview. Ooh, maybe it is a Jurassic Park preview. Can you imagine? That would be interesting. FN Slayer, thank you very much for the 1,000 bits. Appreciate it, brother. Dude, thank you very much, FN Slayer. And you know what I forgot to do is turn the audio up on the game. So why don't I turn that mic up for one second. Yeah, we shall see what the next game is. We shall see. Can you just turn the volume up two clicks on that? I heard our audio was a little low, too. I don't know. Our audio's low? He came back and said it was our audio. Somebody else said it was game.
    12:20
    Okay, let's do audio level check here. Are we coming in hot or coming in soft here? Because we'll get that fixed right away. Not like that one time where we streamed all day in like 160p, and then it was like brought up to us later in the night.
    12:39
    Low voice. Voices are low? All right, hold on a sec. How about now? Is that better? Yeah, 500k is pretty noteworthy. That's a fun game when you break 500.
    12:59
    Let's see if that's any better with a little audio there. Sorry about that, guys. I'm somewhat relieved that your experience on this game mirrored most of mine. Yeah, you know what? We like the game. We absolutely like the game.
    13:19
    And as Pinball says, when I break 500K, it's noteworthy. It's not an easy game. Now that I look at it, I can see where it's set up for location play.
    13:30
    No doubt. The game comes without that left post installed in the out lane, so that's pretty big. And the right posts are set high. Yeah, so it's at the top of the three.
    13:43
    Colorist, I don't think there's been any issues on this game for clear coat. Mine's a little soft. Okay. Around the slings. But I have the kit that I need to install. Okay. It's actually sitting right here. Come on, have you had any issues?
    14:10
    Other than that, no issues with the game. Beady Chugs, if only two of you get the points. How about the person who doesn't finish the three at the Chugs?
    14:22
    All right, you know what? I'll Chug for him. Screw you, Zach. Okay, so the problem with chugging drinks is some of us are driving home.
    14:36
    And, yeah, that's just not a responsible choice to be slamming drinks while driving. And I'm sure that's why this stream has been sponsored by Uber many times.
    14:46
    When we're at Studio B, it's Uber home for me. Now, tonight I'm – can't make it a late night, so I'm not going to be going crazy. Have we had any clear issues on WACA? So on some of the posts, there's a little bit of, what do you call it, a little bit of rippling a little bit, which I think has been typical on some of the released machines. So there is a washer fix that's being sent out to just kind of remedy that right away before it gets to the point where you're in a little bit of trouble. So that's been addressed by Jersey Jack and this particular machine.
    15:22
    Let's see. Oh, mama. Yeah, so Zach's addressing some of that with some of the bubbling issues. You know, it's funny because you don't see it in passing, but if you're looking for it, you can kind of see where it's got a little bit of a ripple or bubble.
    15:39
    As far as the issues with the ball trough issues, I haven't had that issue with the ball trough here. Have you had an issue with the ball trough? It's just kind of sometimes you've got to give it a little nudge. The ball doesn't sit there? It won't catch a drain. It won't read that drain. Okay. Is it because it's hung up before it gets into the trough? It actually just happened. Okay. Bill walked over and my ball was still up. Okay. Is it because it's not going into the trough and it's just hanging? I think it's in the trough. Okay. In the trough. I don't know. I haven't looked into it enough yet because it's been so intermittent. Okay.
    16:14
    They're sending washers for Waka, too. Yeah, so you've got a kit coming, right? Or like a repair kit? Yeah, I guess the same. It's actually the Pirates kit. Okay, so you have it right there? Pirates Post Kit, yep. Okay, there you go. Watchers.
    16:30
    Yeah, Joel Reeves says, for a home game, you couldn't ask for much more than a Star Wars game had. I agree. I'm not one to get excited about home edition games, but again, we had George Gomez on our special pinball podcast tonight, and that will air tomorrow. He talks a lot about that Star Wars pin that was just revealed, and it's exciting to hear the direction of the company in a way that you wouldn't have considered because the Cornerstone games are still the main feature, but they're branching out into different avenues. That's very cool. So you can hear about that tomorrow. It's interesting, the layout of the Pro, too. I think it looks pretty good, man. Yeah. Yeah, it looks like it should shoot good.
    17:08
    Hopefully we'll get a chance to play one sometime soon. If not, we're going to have to sneak over to Stern, that's for sure. Sorry guys, just getting caught up here Yeah, I guess they're sending washers So you pull the post up, put the washers down So it prevents that problem from the clear No, you know what, Joel Reeves I don't think you really could ask for a whole lot more It's a little smaller, so it's easier to get downstairs Oh, that's a good point Man, that's a good death shot, dude The red target Did you hit that red target? That left target on the right ramp.
    17:50
    Man, and it's funny because I hit that, and it came right back, and I was okay, and I was like, all right, I'm not going to do that again, and then literally the next shot I had on it was bad. And it gets in your head. It's like if anybody that's golfed, and you're on like a par three,
    18:04
    and 20 yards to your right is a pond that should not play at all into your shot, but it's in your head. And as soon as you tee off, it goes right into that pond. It's like, it's annoying, but it's a comeback. If you go to throw something at some, you know, into the trash can, if you're looking somewhere else, that's where it's going. Yeah. Hey, Penn Stadium, Scott's here. 16 Bits, man, thanks for coming in. We were just talking up a little Penn Stadium with Illuminating Game. This is one of those games that I think really benefits from the Penn Stadium if you're playing in a real dark environment, for sure. So if you haven't seen pictures, I know Scott has them available. And then you can obviously see on the stream, it's up a little brighter than what I would normally have in the home, but for streaming, you'd like to jack up the brightness on the pin stadium.
    18:51
    All right, let's see. Kaz, I love JJP pins, but unfortunately they've got some play field issues, and I hope they can fix the issues on future titles. I think every manufacturer has had some type of play field issue. I mean, you're talking about a piece of wood with paint on top of it. I mean, the standards from 20 years ago, These things are just going on and around. So if you had a little bit of issue, no one cared. Yeah, no. You made money. It's getting addressed. I think if they washed their hands of it and said, well, I don't know, that's just kind of to be expected, I think that would be concerning. But they're getting it figured out. Yep.
    19:22
    Living on pinball, Zach says, got my Wonka Grand Champ score last night, 2.6 million, but I was about ready to open it up. Shit made me so angry. That's the sign of love for me. Yep. That's one more game. and Grim101980 has subscribed with Twitch Prime. Thank you so much, man. That is awesome. Love having the stuff. Please, just keep coming back and visiting us at least once a week when we're streaming because it's good having you here. It's good having you in chat. Thanks for supporting the channel. It really does mean a lot to us. And it's everybody that's in chat that makes this stream what it is. Thank you, guys.
    19:57
    Zach from Flippin' Out Pinball this is his channel. He allows us to stream the games on a weekly basis. We have our live mics going. and Zach's agreed to allow us to keep any revenue that comes in from the channel. So those bits and those subs, they do go back to us, and we go into making the channel better. Yeah, equipment. Thank you, guys. Still more equipment we want to buy. Yeah, no, and it's been great. I mean, it's been way more than we had expected as far as financial support for the channel. Hey, golden ticket found. You're halfway, Steve, to a pin quest challenge, and he's got 286,000 points up. So he's starting to light it up a little bit here on the Flippin' Out streaming network. This is like a little he's on for us.
    20:48
    This is a great mode, and I like the audio here. Let's be quiet and listen. Ball save. Shoot again, shoot again.
    21:24
    Hey, nice ball, man. Now the pressure's on for all of us. We've got to get to that 100,000 mark at least. And you're right there to get that second golden ticket for the pin quest. and potentially with that score we could be at that 1.65 million combined score. So this is huge. This is huge, guys. Grim Tim says he loves what we're doing. We love what we're doing. We love that you love what we're doing. We love that everybody's here hanging out, man, every single week. Every single week. Zuniti is here, which is awesome.
    21:54
    What's up there, Scott? Hey, hey. Hey, Scott, I'm going to actually – Scott, can I give you a call in like ten minutes?
    22:08
    Would you mind coming on the stream real quick with us? We'll take a little intermission before we keep playing Wonka, but I wanted to get you on for a second, if you think it's okay.
    22:20
    I had something I wanted to ask you, and I thought it would be appropriate to ask with all the viewers here. All right, cool. So I'm going to give Scott a call here when we do a quick intermission in about nine minutes. Maybe after this game we'll do that.
    22:37
    Yeah, Scott needs to be an after dark to Vance because he's so tense. Yeah, absolutely. After dark's about Vance. And, you know, my assistant Bill Webb is happy to massage anybody that might be stressed out. The after dark? Right. Oh, the after dark massage.
    22:55
    Rubbing for bits. And his pinball says, hey, Wonka owners. Does your diverter sometimes miss? Like the ball bounces back and doesn't drop to the magnet as expected when it's hit hard. So any WACA owners that want to go in and want to chime in, please go ahead. Pink West Pinball, again, thanks for starting this off with 2,500 bits. That's huge. FN Slayer with 1,000 bits. Higher Ket and Red Eye with 1,000 bits. We've got several follows already tonight. We've got some resubs, though. I love kicking off chat like this, guys. I love kicking off this stream. Thank you, guys. Good times.
    23:31
    An impromptu interview. So Scott's coming on, huh? Switches for Lonely Nerds. Needs to go poop. He will be our B.
    23:39
    Switches for Lonely Nerds. Stephanie, number two, your next game. Scottish, what up, brother? That's a big question. I almost did it again with that post.
    23:49
    Yeah, Pat is very good at laying out play fields. Oh, okay. Twitch, thanks, man. Let us know. Or, yeah, see you soon. I have no ball control here, man.
    23:59
    I don't think that's the case. but, you know, we'll see. This game is done. The pad is good at playing field, Scott. Yesterday, or last week, it took me down. Yeah, you started getting into it, though. Three or four games. Let's go slouch himself, though, laying out play fields.
    24:20
    Yeah, what happened, Dr. John? Your spooky update. You had the week off this week, so it's no worries. You got me. Again, thanks for everybody that's coming into the Flippin' Out streaming network here. I'm Ken Cromwell and Bill Webb from Special Woodley Pinball Podcast. We are streaming live from Studio B tonight, which is Studio Steve Beattie, who's with us here. We've got Willy Wonka. It's the last week in which we will be streaming Willy Wonka, and we have a new pinball machine that we'll be rolling in here for a stream next week. So we're going to discuss that here shortly. We're going to give Scott D'Anithi, who's in chat, a call real quick and do that after the conclusion of this game. So if you're fans of what Scott's done with TNA, Total Nuclear Annihilation, which was contract manufactured by Spooky Pinball, Scott also is now working on game number two, highly anticipated game number two.
    25:17
    It's nice to have him in chat. And he's a local guy, too. I mean, we've known Scott for a while. Good guy. Good people for sure.
    25:23
    Him and his wife, Sarah Rose Denise. Excellent people to know. I'd like to align myself with excellent people such as themselves. Yeah. If that makes sense. As we should. As anybody should.
    25:36
    Let's see. Carrie Hardy at Scott Denise. If you were asked to do the music for Stranger Things Pin, would you do it?
    25:45
    Flippin' on Pinball, which is Zach Many. Owner and operator of Flippin' on Pinball says, nice bar collection, Stevie. The bar collection, huh? Bar collection. Pinquest Pinball. Neil just got a TNA, and he says it's such a badass game. He's excited to see what Scott does next. Same here, man. So it might be just called more TNA. More TNA. More reactors. More music. More fun.
    26:12
    Scott says he would do Stranger Things music fast, 100%. and his pinball is having a little side conversation with Super Locks.
    26:23
    Scott Denise, he loves everybody. We love you, Scott. Is Bill blowing up the game here? What's going on? Oh, dude, I walked up. I needed one ball to lock, and I literally did nothing. That's okay. Yeah. So, chat's rolling by fast. Southwest Pennsylvania Pinheads asking if Scott's announcing a flipping out distributorship for Spooky Games and his pinball. He's talking about some stuff.
    26:52
    Hey, Joel Reeves, thanks for the 1,000 bits, man. Yeah, buddy. I appreciate it. And very nice, he says, between you guys and Zach Strickland in the middle, we're responsible for the best pinball content over the past years. Dude, I really appreciate that. Because that's what it's all about, pinball content. Now, Bill, you're over 100,000 points, right? Again, the pressure is on me. And this is my last ball. In the words of bowling, sunshine.
    27:20
    You know when your team's got all strikes except the last man out? Yeah. Twitches for Lonely Nerds is back. Welcome back, bro. All right, guys, I'm just getting caught up, so give me a chance here to read up. The new game was not announced yet.
    27:37
    Joel Rees, thanks for the 1,000 bits. Appreciate it. Actually, this is just threw on 1.90 code earlier today. I don't think you broke anything.
    27:52
    We have no new game announcement. Not yet. Yeah, you know what? I mean, it's still a fun game. I look forward to that game, man. That should be a brutal game to play. Which, I don't know. That'll be a good time. Yeah. Which we're not announcing right now, so.
    28:13
    Yeah. Thank you, Kerry. I appreciate you trying to drink a Fanta. I thought it was Fanta. One, two, Fanta. You know, it's caffeine-free, man, so the problem was for so many years I was drinking Monster like three, four, five a day. Oh, man. And it just finally got to me. That ain't good for you. No. And then I was big on Pepsi. That's it, man. There we go. Yeah. Oh, what, it's slide past there?
    28:43
    Son, I got rid of the Pepsi last year, and now I'm on Fanta, which I kind of need to give up. So in the next couple of weeks, if you see me drinking water and stuff like that, you know why.
    28:57
    Yeah, you know what? I could play this game all night, too. This is a darn good game. I was out here for a... Oh, yeah. That's actually kind of common, I feel like. And I don't know exactly how to get that. It just kind of randomly happens. So if anybody wants to chime in and explain how you get plug work.
    29:15
    You know what? For me, dude, I'm coming off like all these 90s pins, right? Yeah. And to go into something like this, like I think, you know, Star Wars and Star Trek are more code involved. Driven? Yeah, yeah. So Willie. There's a lot going on, man. It's going to take me a long time to get my bearings on this game for sure. El Monica, thank you for the follow. You know what? Honestly, I do drink coffee, too.
    29:42
    You know, I've been drinking too much coffee with caffeine, so it's starting to affect my sleep. Oh, yeah. That's my idea. Well, that's the hard part, man, is I wake up, you know, anywhere from 3.50 to 4.00 in the morning. Yeah, Morgan has to do it, bro. So, you know, some of them days are rough, especially after streaming on these nights. Yeah, my Tuesdays after streaming have been a little... Fanta orange. It's rough, really. today. Is pinball a sport? Hold on. Or a game. Oh, Ken got a golden ticket. Oh, dude, we're in a, we just completed our first pin quest challenge. Yeah, dude, I'm curious to see if he puts me in a hole, because that would really be us. Yeah, orange on the Fanta, guys. Boom. Wait, do they mix Fanta in other colors?
    30:35
    Yeah, but see the other part of that here. Tear wound. Carrie is a... Dude, if I start drinking, man, I'm going to... I don't stop. You know, I mean... That's my drop point.
    30:45
    And I've got to drive. We'll start at 7 and we end at 10.30 here. Dude, we've ended at 2 before. Oh, yeah. And that's been a late night. I'm saying like the Monday nights. We'll end at 10.30 or 11. And then, you know, if you're here or Ken's here, we'll sit out here for another half an hour. Oh, easy. To an hour.
    31:04
    Yeah, that's a great point, man. I don't know if I've ever actually swatted playing a game, but definitely moving them.
    31:12
    Ah, thanks, Pinclust. Yeah, we got Tier 1. Got it kind of early, so that's good. Now I can, you know, relax just a little.
    31:25
    Nice. Yeah, you know what? We've seen Scott or Grim Tim. Yeah, that's nice that he's getting a new room.
    31:32
    And it's nice to see that Todd's actually been doing better. So hopefully he keeps going. Okay, so Slugworth is just a random multi-ball.
    31:43
    Okay. All right. Grave and Pineapple Fanta. Grave might be all right if he had something mixed into it. You know, random award. That's why it felt random. No we haven played in tournaments We don have a huge announcement yet You know what Kerry I used to be a big beer drinker man Something just doesn't agree with it, so if I have a beer, it's only a couple.
    32:08
    Typically, though, if I'm drinking, man, it's 50-50s. Denison's in chat. What up, Dennis?
    32:16
    Hey, the Ricky Ruru. You say that, but, dude, I mean, if you were playing bags on Saturday, out here. Dude, you would have been sweating just walking to the back set. Oh, dude.
    32:31
    You know what? Honestly, Fanta, the only reason why I started drinking that is just because it's caffeine free. Either that or Sprite.
    32:42
    No, Scott, no Mad Dog 50-50. Even though that was good back in the day. I know. 50-50 is like 50% Pepsi, 50% rum. Captain Morgan. Hey, WTR Penn, I appreciate the write-off on how to get that.
    32:55
    Penn Quest, I'm not sure what it is, in all honesty. I'm leaving Penn alone. Lord Hellman, I don't know if they've hit the combining scores. We're at 1.5, 1.6.
    33:14
    Jerry, thank you for the 10-bit, brother. Yeah, Scott would probably know if the L.E.s are coming in yet.
    33:24
    Scholars, thank you for following, man. Appreciate it. Really? You know what, though, with Elmonica?
    33:37
    It's funny because the restrictions on stuff in Germany and foreign countries is a lot stiffer here. So the fact that it wasn't popular here kind of makes you go, hmm.
    33:47
    Hmm. I think it is on its hair. Beat my skull. Yes. Kevin's on his hair. Oh. Here we go. Hey, Zach, do you know if the L.E.s are starting to ship yet or no?
    34:04
    Oh, wait. Wow. Kid Moby Ball coming up. Thank you, Dennis. I'd be curious to see what bookies are throwing down the odds for this. You know, might have to get in on that.
    34:32
    Evans Lair, I think we could probably repost the Pin Quest Challenge one more time, if you guys can do that. Yep. I'm actually looking for that, too. We'll see where we end.
    34:43
    12 ounces of Fanta, 41 grams of sugar per serving. And tasty. All right. Oh, okay, Gary. Take a picture of that. We need to do some addition.
    34:59
    All right, so we hit Pin Quest Tier 2, right, which was the combined score of 1.65 million. Okay. I was hoping it was a 2.6. And you had, Steve, 753. So we've got over 2 million on that score. So that's fun. We hit that pin quest. Good times.
    35:14
    So which pin quest did we hit? We hit the Tier 2. Well, Tier 1 and Tier 2 because Tier 1 would have been all of us at 100,000 points. Tier 2 would have been a combined score of 1.65. So we're at Tier 2. Thank you, Neil. And then Tier 3 is one of us collecting two golden tickets. Before we continue with Wonka, I want to give Scott Denicia a quick call here. If you don't mind. And I'm going to jump in and say, Kerry, you're out of your mind, dude. Dude, this 50% humidity, 95, I'm in the house, man. I'm not clear coat, no play field. We were moving stuff on Saturday for the uncle-in-law. He was picking stuff up for five hours in a storage facility. Dude, when I was done, I was fried. So, dude, my hat's off to you for suffering going through that.
    36:07
    Thanks for the follows, guys, too. DC 2057, Colerath 15. Appreciate it. Carrie Hardy, thanks for the bits. El Monica, thanks for the follow. Joel Reeves, thanks for the bits, guys. Yeah, thank you. Give us a second here. I'm not going to be able to monitor chat as well as we get Scott on the phone here. Oh, sorry, guys. All right, give me one second. Okay, we'll be back.
    36:36
    Oh, Neil missed us hitting tier two. Oh, did he? Yeah. Okay. Oh, he missed us? Yeah, the commercial popped up.
    36:56
    Well, the scores will re-show on here one more time, right? That was a question, not a statement. They should. Okay.
    37:06
    This is not letting me call out here. Studio B's on lockdown. Grand champ score. Yeah, Joe Katz, that's going to be up there for a while.
    37:18
    For a long while. WTR Penn, thank you for the 100 bits, man. Appreciate it. Hey, thank you, WTR Penn. Hey, Scott, I'm going to text you our call-in number if you don't mind because for whatever reason I'm having an issue here where I cannot dial out. And I think it's the security at Studio B. What is that noise?
    37:40
    There's a ball search going on. What am I getting? A random ball search? Like Studio B is taking over tonight, which is kind of scary. Yeah, no kidding, Kerry, with the sweat. Dude, when I paint cabinets and it's warm in the garage, dude, it's the same thing. You're nervous about dropping one drop of sweat into the paint you just put on something. But a play field is a little more nerve-wracking because there is no wet sand in the start. Well, I mean, there is, but it's just a pain in the butt.
    38:07
    Yes, Neil, we did hit tier two. One and two have been accomplished this evening. One and two? Boom. In the same game.
    38:18
    That is true. And Ken and I both had one golden ticket. So if you want to just combine those. Yeah, I thought it was going to be a team effort tonight anyways. Give me 30 more seconds, guys. I'm trying to figure out the situation I have here in regards to getting Scott on the line. So one more second, please.
    38:40
    You guys feel free to read the chat right here. I will read. I can't all stop. Come on. No, just catching up on a little bit of the chat here. Read the chat out loud. You know what, Kerry? Dude, I'm not a technologically advanced kind of person. So, yeah, man, I could show him, but I'd probably just send him back 10 years. Bill's pretty damn good with that flashlight on that phone. I'll tell you what. Oh, yeah, dude. Scott, no, I doubt he erased your number. I can tell you that for a fact. Scott, I have your number, but hold on a second. What's going on, man? I'm having technical difficulties. Hang on, Twitch.
    39:15
    Dude, go take another. He's used to that jitterbug. Might be a pardon line. Yeah, you know what? The problem is we share this line with a 976 number. occasionally, so we have to switch it back. Yeah. 8-6-7-5? No, I was thinking something different. Scott, I just texted you the number. If you don't mind calling in, having an Internet settings issue with calling out for some reason, I'm not really quite sure why that's happening. But in any event, if you're able to call in, it's probably because we were cut off from making calls.
    39:53
    Anyways, cue the Jeopardy music. That's right. Oh, there we go. There we go. All right, here we go.
    40:01
    What's up, buddy? Is this the Flippin' Out hotline? This is the Flippin' Out streaming hotline. What's going on? I'm confused with the 976 line that Bill's been running, I guess, on the side.
    40:14
    What's going on? Hi. How are you? Hey, guys. Well, listen, I wanted to ask you to call in because I didn't want you to have to wait for after hours. And we were talking about, so we've been streaming Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory for the last three weeks, right?
    40:27
    Yeah. And so this is the last week that we're streaming it. And now something that the two of us have talked about for a while was getting together on the same page and do some streaming. So next week, that's finally coming to fruition, right?
    40:43
    Oh, yeah, I guess it is, isn't it? It is. So with Scott D'Anissi on the phone here, next week we are getting on loan from Scott the original TNA Whitewood, The pin that started it all off, that started all the craze at all the pinball shows. We're bringing it into Studio A with Scott Denisey coming in. So he'll be in studio. So for next week, we are going to be streaming the TNA Whitewood with Scott Denisey. So thank you, Scott. Thanks, Scott. It's exciting. All right. Good stuff. I'm going to need to go ahead and update the software on it. And you know what? We're going to stream it in all its glory. We have not cleaned it in a while. Yeah, good. It's going to have a nice, you can have some nice dirt tracks on there. That's right. It's going to be super legit. And the power button doesn't work, so you've got to unplug it from the wall to turn it off. Yeah, sweet. So I'll rest. Yeah, we're good to go. So we're going to stream that pin with you next week, which is going to be fun. And then the following week we have another mystery pin, and then we're going to be into a new release, I think, from Stern, which we'll get into. So, I mean, it's going to be a fun week because, again, we've been talking about streaming the TNA Whitewood, and I remember streaming that. Wow, that T&I Whitewood at your place like years ago before yourself and Charlie even had come to an agreement that it made sense for them to manufacture that. So that's going to be good times. But, yeah, man, I appreciate it. I'm excited. And we're going to start promoting it next week or probably tomorrow. And then, I don't know, I guess I'll see you on Monday the 29th, right? And then are you able to stream and stick around for after hours and all that good stuff? Yeah, I'll stick around, man. It'll be fun. Looking forward to it, Scott. Thanks for the patience with the phone call. Thanks for calling in. And next week we'll be rocking and rolling. It'll be a great time. Thank you. See you on Monday, Scott. All righty. Thanks, man. All right, see you guys. All right, thanks. Bye, brother. Peace. Bye.
    42:38
    It's always good having Scott around. And I'm looking forward to streaming that pin. Scott's a good dude. Let's get going with another three-player game. All right. So I was on stream twice when TNA was in Whitewood status. Yep. and it was really cool to see how that pin's evolved. One of the things that I like so much about the game is just the musical presentation of that game really gets you in such a freaking mood. It pumps you up, dude. It does pump you up. Damn sure. That game gets you really involved. Just with the music alone. And I know, we haven't seen the Whitewood in a while, and it's nice to have it come back out and make another appearance, so that'll be fun.
    43:18
    Thank you, Scott. We are looking forward to it. We're going to play it on 11? What's he mean there? He says, wait, don't tell Spooky Pinball. Oh, no. Oh, you don't sell Spooky Pinball products, Zach. What do we have to do about that? Something's got to happen.
    43:37
    So now we're on the search for two golden tickets. Yeah, I think we're going to do versus and co-op next week, and I think that'll offer up some pretty interesting pin quest challenges. Oh, yeah. And for co-op. The question is, who's going to have Scott on their team?
    44:02
    Scott will be there Monday in the flesh. In the flesh. Tiki Pinball, too bad he just got announced Cooper Nightmare Castle. That's another pin I would love to stream in Alice Cooper Nightmare Castle. Same here. I would love it. I haven't even flipped one yet. We were at TPF and there was a line. You couldn't get on anything at TPF. It's so popular, so busy. Kyle says he really enjoyed T&A when he owned it. He loved the co-op mode, and he wishes all the other companies would implement that in the future.
    44:29
    Scott says they will eventually. I don't doubt it. I mean, co-op mode is fun. Yeah. Right? Well, it's kind of what we're doing right now. I mean, it's kind of a co-op mode, right? Totally. With the Pin Quest challenges. Yep.
    44:42
    I do kind of like that. Good job on that, Neil. Good to mix it up. Yeah. Very interesting. Very fun. So again, welcome. Thanks for joining us every single Monday on the Flippin' Out Streaming Network. I'm Ken Cromwell and Bill Webb. We're from Special Wind Lift Pinball Podcast. Our buddy Steve Beatty is here. This is his place. We're in Studio B tonight, and we are streaming Willy Wonka and the Chalk Factory for the last week. Next week we transition, and we have a special treat, one-off week with Scott Ganesi and the T&A Whitewood, which will be at Studio A, and looking forward to that. And right now we're trying to get two golden tickets on an individual basis. Yeah, in order to meet the Tier 3 pin quest of the game.
    45:23
    So I don't think you see that second golden ticket until around 2 or 3 mil. I don't even know. Okay.
    45:31
    Sorry, guys, you're getting caught up once again. Yeah, Kerry, I wish you did live up here, because I probably couldn't handle it down there with the heat.
    45:41
    Nice, guy. You got nails, Cougars? You got to be kidding me, dude. Yeah, co-op would definitely be cool.
    45:54
    You don't have to be mad about Willy Wonka. There are two things that I know that I should never do. And the first is when the ball is being fed to the left flipper, try to backhand it on the fly like a one-timer and try to get the Godstopper. Because you can't do that. Well, you can hit that ramp over and over and over. It's not big points doing that. But I try to hit the Godstopper and it comes right back down to me. And every time I say I'm not going to do that again, I do it. And then what happens is I've got to make sure I stay away from that left standard target on the right ramp, and I am attracted to that like you have no idea. So those are the two things I know I can't do, and I consistently do them every freaking game, man. But that's what makes me want to play one more game, and that's why. I dig it. That's why we've been going late. Lumberjack, I think Fishtails is a good game. That's what you were talking about. Gobstopper, yeah. Gobstopper needs a gentle backhand. I try to hit it on the fly, and I know I can't or I shouldn't do that because it's too risky, but I do it anyway.
    46:50
    Dude, you're just re-verifying things you already know. Yeah, that left orbit is also, like, you're right straight down the middle. Those are three shots, man, that are just tough.
    47:04
    And it's hard because it's like almost when it's coming out of that orbit, you want to nudge the machine so that it hits something so that it doesn't rocket out of there straight down the middle. Yep.
    47:13
    Yeah, you've got to be on point. I mean, especially the right ramp, too, man. If you kind of pussyfooted up that ramp, dude, it's coming back down. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Right in the tank. Whoa, what?
    47:23
    What? Whoa. What? Whoa. If you lightly hit it up the ramp, is that a better way to say it? Oh, there you go. Okay. After last week's incidents.
    47:35
    I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know if this is supposed to be family friendly or not anymore, But I assume it's not since the stream is marked explicit.
    47:44
    So there we go. Anyhow. So it'll be sad to say goodbye to Willie. We have to play that Boys the Men song like at the end of the stream. It's like, it's so hard to say goodbye to yesterday. Absolutely not. But that's your thoughts on the situation. I'm going to take a pass. Good times.
    48:04
    Fish tails. And Scott says, hey, come on. I will be swearing next week, Scott says. There's nothing like a vulgar Scott Benici to set the tone of a stream. That's for sure. That's going to be a good time, man. Hey, Dennis from Eclectic Gamers is in. I didn't see him pop in a chat. He says he's not a Fishtails fan, but it's better than a number of other games that are out there.
    48:27
    Vulgarin's here. What's up, Dave? Who's talking shit about Fishtails? And the spinball says, you know what sucks? when you're flowing ramp to ramp over and over and building up candy jar and Waka bars, Captain Ball, and everything is awesome. And then you hit the death target by the factory ramp.
    48:46
    That is true. That's why they made it red. Do not hit. All right, Scott, thanks for stopping in, man.
    48:54
    And if you're leaving, thank you, buddy. Yeah, buddy. T.P. Pinball has now explained that he will be leaving because this might be a family show, so he's out. Is it a family show? I don't know. It's really not. I don't even know. When does it begin? With what I said, though, I don't think that was crossing the line. Right. No. What did you say? Repeat it, Bill. I said, if you pussy... Oh, Bill! Oh, what? Damn. Whoa. And a family show in a moment. If you shoot it light, including up the right ramp, it can drain very quickly. If you shoot it light. If you control that flipper power, if you're not on point with it, yes, you can. Whatever, man. You'll all be just hating. I'll be hating on that red target. Hell, yeah.
    49:43
    You know what, Dennis? I like fish tails. I mean, it's not deep, but I think it's a cool game. You know, you don't want to have that as your only game. No, fish tails was one of the first DMVs I actually sought after to get. Scott, we'll see you around, brother. Tiki Pinball. Yeah, I didn't know it was either. So we're going to have to jump off this channel, I guess.
    50:06
    2K for Fishtails. Ooh. You look like a grand on the table, guys. Lumberjack, honestly, buy what you want, man. I like Wonka.
    50:17
    Yeah, we were talking to George Gomez tonight because, again, we had him on for the podcast. And he kept saying, he's like, buy what makes you happy. Don't buy what other people are going to tell you is going to make you happy. No. Buy what makes you happy. And it makes a lot of sense. I think a lot of us are with us. Oh, we just got a, I wanted to acknowledge this. Okay, modify tier three for each of you needs to get a golden ticket in the same game. I think we're better off one of us getting two.
    50:43
    But, hey, Neil, I appreciate it, man. It's nice of you to modify these quests. But, I mean, we're happy that we're hitting the quest. It adds a different dynamic to the game for sure. For certain. For sure.
    50:56
    Board helmet, my bad. What's that? I didn't think that word was too unfriendly. What word is that? I'm not going to say it again. Oh, hey. Whoa. Too soon?
    51:10
    Yeah, fish tails I think you're not finding for under three. If it is, it's not going to be a great example. I want to say this tonight, too, guys. We're not going to make it a late one this evening. We're going to close out Willy Wonka respectfully here in probably the next, I don't know, 20 minutes or so. We'll get into the after hours call-in segment. I think there's a lot to talk about pinball-wise right now. And then we're going to shut down at 930 tonight, and it's a little earlier than what we've done in the past, and it's simply because there's a busy day for all of us tomorrow, but we wanted to make sure that we hung out on Monday because it's our favorite night of the week, especially because we're streaming with everybody. Love it. And it's awesome. Love hanging out with you guys. Love hanging out with Chad. I love this, too. So next Monday is going to be Color Rap 15 Thank you very very much for the stuff man that is awesome Color Rap 15 and subscribe with Prime we need to do some like when somebody subs we need to have some choreography or something going we do something not to belittle ourselves we show nipples No, we're not shorting. So that's the way they lose the stubs. Waller, thank you very much for the follow. Appreciate it, brother. Tim Waller is 875 for the follow. Thank you. So, Birdo Drink, you know, you posted up here, and I don't know if they touched on it when I was up playing, but fishtails or Munsters, I like them both, but, you know, if money wasn't an object, I think I'd go Munsters a little more. Not a little more, a lot more. A little more, I think, though.
    52:44
    Yeah, Dave, I don't think you're getting rid of your fishtails either. Yeah, I wouldn't move my fishtails any times, too.
    53:00
    David Dennis, you know what? I thought about taking the fishtails that I had when I had it and re-theming the music with some country stuff. Some Brad Paisley, I'm Going Fishing and stuff like that I thought would have been pretty cool.
    53:14
    I'm going to miss her. I don't mind that. But again, it's an early pen of mine. It's got some sentimental value. Yeah, until Steve gets rid of it to me.
    53:24
    You did. You offered some money on it last week. I think I offered a couple times, man. I don't like to say things are bolted, but that's... You know what? When you're done with it, or when you need space, dude, I'll foster it. You know, I'm going to need space.
    53:41
    Eventually. Thank you, Collars, for the kind words, man. You know, we're just trying to keep it real. and then, honestly, it's all the people in chat that make this channel what it is. I mean, our pinball skills are interesting to say it in a very light way. Yeah. You know, about having a good time and everybody getting together.
    54:00
    Yeah, it makes sense to sell for less. I just sold Fishtails last week and I got rid of it. I hear that.
    54:07
    But Fishtails is a $3,000 game, guys. I mean, you know what? I don't know if there's a distributor. Is there Ricky Rue? I don't know if there are distributors offering financing, but I know there's companies that will let you finance pins. I don't know what the interest rate is on it. I don't know if I would jump into that.
    54:26
    Day of Country is not the devil's music. Just saying. I'll tell you what. Don't spend more than you can afford on a pinball.
    54:37
    There's a lot of cool games out there for less than $8,000. Oh, yeah, you could buy a couple of them. Don't put yourself in the debt. That's my personal question. No, no, no. Don't debt yourself. And you know what? Honestly, when I first started out, man, my goal was to just try and have one game a year. Yeah. I mean, at one point it went past that, but that's okay. Kaz, I love your thought here. Rethink Fishtails to the 1997 movie, Gone Fishing with Joe Pesci and Danny Glover. How are we talking? That would actually be really cool. That'd be good. It does have a wall of copper. Dave's a big fisherman. Yep, Ken was shooting like a pin Shooting like a pin with that 188 Alright, alright, alright What did I miss? Anything good? Oh, we're just talking Let's go to another game Guys, and again, I'm not trying to shill Willy Wonka In a chalk factory But I'm telling you, this game has I want to go, right? I want to keep playing the game We're going to pay some bills real quick on the Flippin' Out streaming network.
    55:51
    And Bill has left the building. He'll be back. He's paying himself. For those of you that might have missed the game that we're going to be streaming next week, we're taking, so we're in transition, right? We're in between games. We've got Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory that we're ending this evening. And then in a few weeks, I would assume that we've got Stern's next game, the Cornerstone game that's going to be released here in a few days. And so that will be coming into the Flippin' Out Studios. We'll be able to stream. Now, we wanted to bring you some different content because we don't want to stream the same pin over and over and over. So next week, Scott Denise is coming in, and he's bringing in his TNA Whitewood, which was the game that started the craze of TNA itself. So we'll be streaming that game with Scott, and that's going to be on Monday the 29th. That's going to be fun. Now, after that, we have another week. Now, there are a couple things that are up in the air, and I know Zach's trying to work that out right now. And I'm hoping the week after that, we might be into that Cornerstone game by Stern. So, you know, the hits keep coming on the Flippin' Out streaming network. Yeah, that's exciting. You know, for the lack of a better term, stay tuned, but we'll keep you informed as early as we have the information. And that's kind of where we're at with that. Are you going to be playing dialed in with the new codes? I don't know. I don't know if we'll have a dialed-in here. I owned a dialed-in in LA for a long time, and I love that pinball machine. I don't know if a new code is going to drive a machine in here for us to stream or not. We'll have to see. You've got to ask the boss. You've got to ask Zach and Nicole Many on that one.
    57:21
    Colrath says you could buy a BSD for around $3K and sell it six months down the road and maybe not lose any money or very little. BSD is one of those games where, and I'm looking at one right now, I didn't really care for it in the beginning, Although I tend to play well on the game, but now I kind of want one. So we kind of met over my BSD. Yeah.
    57:43
    Yeah, you were asking on Pinside if anybody had one. Yeah, that's right. That is how we met. I reached out to you. I was like, dude, come on. He's like, come on over to Studio B, man. I'll show you. And I played it. I'm like, this game kind of sucks. But then I love it. Yeah, my kids won't dig this. But I like it. I want to grab one now. For sure. I still dialed in because of space. where I am at, I can only have four to five pins at a time, and I cannot keep them all. I'm like the type of guy that likes to keep rotating games out, and then one day when I grow up, right, and I'm old enough and I'm retired, I will have played about everything that I can. I will have owned several hundreds of pins, hopefully, right? No doubt. And then I'll be able to pick the fantasy lineup for myself.
    58:26
    I don't think you'll ever be done. I don't know. We'll see. You guys ready to start another game up? Let's do one more. Let's do one more game. We'll get into after hours. We've got one more chance for the Pin Quest of the week. And thank you, Pin Quest, Neil. And thank you, Scott, from Pin Stadium, for lighting up all the games that come into studio here. Yeah, without Scott, we'd be in the dark. Has the Pin Quest, or has the Pin Stadium installed. So, very cool guys to have on board with the stream. Scott at Pin Stadium, Neil at Pin Quest.
    58:57
    Hey, Rudy Soup, welcome to the chat, man. Flippin' the Flip It Out. And shit. And you yelled at me for what I was saying. What did you say? I'm not going to say it because you're going to woes me. I don't need that. I don't know what you said. I don't need that. That was a nice ball, man. What was that? That's a pin quest right there. End of ball in ten seconds. Very good.
    59:20
    Hey, thanks for stopping in, Rudy Sioux. Eclectic gamers don't know what the opinions are real anymore. He's talking to Flippin' Out. Everyone's talking to Flippin' Out. Last week's market trend sucked. Guess my no fear will be sitting for a while. Hey, no. Dave doesn't like the market trends when his pins are trending down. I missed that one. Lord Helmet's talking to little eclectic gamers there. Dennis Creasel says, thanks for the thoughts.
    59:44
    I doubt Stern will not change what they are currently doing if people keep buying the current options.
    59:49
    We'll see, guys. Everything I'm hearing is that Stern is going to be shocking and awing potentially here throughout the rest of the year. So we'll see what happens. That's awesome. I don't like saying we'll see, but, I mean, literally, you just have to wait and see. It's the waiting game.
    60:05
    And, again, thanks, everybody, for joining us on the Flippin' Off Streaming Network. I'm Ken Cromwell. Bill Webb is streaming. He's playing the game. And Steve Beattie is to our left. We're in Studio B tonight streaming Willy Wonka for the final week on the Flippin' Off Streaming Network.
    60:22
    Like Hawanka with shock and awe and Munsters with shock and awe. Like how Wonka was shocking off and Munsters was shocking off. Everything's shocking off.
    60:31
    Oh, he's saying like Munsters was shocking off and like how Wonka was shocking off. I get it, Dennis. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Hey.
    60:39
    Okay. Brad. David Delmenis. I think that's how you said it. Turning up everything I own, turning down everything I want.
    60:49
    I love that. I love it. And on that note, 18-12s are turning down and Cactus Jacks is hurting. You know, any new table that comes out is shocking. How many times can I do this? Oh.
    61:05
    Hey, I know what Dennis is talking about. Dennis is on point, man. He always keeps it real. Oh, man.
    61:12
    Yes, the tilt bob is still installed in this game. Oh, Kerry Hardy. Thank you, brother. Appreciate it, brother. Love it, bitch.
    61:19
    Oh, player one already. Yeah, man. Oh, we are. Can we talk about it? No, it's not your score. Very low. So, Fulgrim jumps in and he says, so can we talk about the next Cornerstone game, some speculation? Yeah, go for it. Speculate away.
    61:36
    There's no confirmation that we have what it is, so I'm open for speculating. Yeah, we're not going to let the cat out the bag on this one. I mean, this is kind of the place that you come every single week and you talk pinball and you speculate and you bitch and moan and then you champion.
    61:49
    What? I thought you were calling out unfriendly family words here. Well, what did you say? I said pussyfoot. Whoa! I can't say that. All right. So, isn't there some FCC regulations going on here on Twitch? How does that work?
    62:05
    It does say explicit lyrics on the pinball machine, doesn't it? Zach says you mean let the shark out of the bag? Ooh. Dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun. Lord Helmet said he heard it at Thunderbird's redo. Glenn 570, thanks for logging in.
    62:20
    Kerry, thanks for the 10 bits, man. Appreciate it. I don't know if we've adjusted the flipper strength on this. Whoa, and it's pinball. Whoa.
    62:30
    We got to censor him out of chess. Oh, my man. That's pinball. Oh, he's coming to build defense there. Lord, I thought we were cool. That's all I'm going to say there. Hey, guys, can you pronounce Minyard? Yeah, that's how you do it. Collars, it's Minyard. If Deaver got back to the future, that would be pretty insane. Now, I'm hoping they do that title justice, if that's the case, though. And it's pinball. I'm totally kidding. I was just busting a little balls with Bill Webb with some of the colorful language he decided to rip out tonight, even though it's a legit word. Just kidding around, guys. So, have you ever trapped that ball, trapped the ball up on that upper right flipper? You can't fully trap it, though. You can slow it down. Can you tell me? No, I mean not trap it. If it gets underneath it. Oh, yeah, underneath it. Yep. Like a reverse. You're basically screwed. Because you let it go. It's going right down there. As soon as it happened, I was like, oh. You have to release it and bump the machine at the same time and give it a kick out. And then you go ahead and tilt out. Either way. Exactly. Right?
    63:32
    Oh. Then what a fit in your underarm. And just like that, done. Whoa. Hey. That pounce. Be careful with that pounce. All right, guys. Let me just jump back in here and catch what's up.
    63:50
    I totally missed what was going on here Ken Steer in chat Minier Eric Minier Probably don need to reminisce a little bit
    64:04
    Or Dennis does. Eric Minier? No, I'll go to the other side. It's too late to be too serious. Dennis, yeah, maybe Ken did scare the chat. We've got to go one more game. I'm not ending on that. No, no. That sucks. Back to the Future would definitely be worth celebrating. Let's just do the call-in while we're playing Waka. Do we really need to, like, turn the game off and have this, like, controlled environment? We'll do one or two more, and then we'll cut it down. I mean, I don't know. Yeah, Jobber, I'm sorry, buddy. Was that too loud? Because that mic right there, that's mic five. And that sucker's juiced in order to get the audio. And it's also at a distance where you can casually talk. while you're playing, and it should be able to pick you up. So by me kind of bringing it in and getting it close in the mic, it's supposed to be scary. Kaz, I have to jump in here and agree with you. You know what, man? It doesn't matter what's released, dude. There are 100,000 people in pinball, 150,000 critics, dude. People are going to piss and moan. You've got the people that can't afford to buy what they're buying. How does that map work out?
    65:13
    Because how many people that are critics of pinball actually have machines? Okay, I see where you're going. Yeah, you don't have to have a machine to be a critic.
    65:24
    Right? So do you have to have a machine to be in pinball? Not necessarily. Okay. Not in my eyes. What does Chad think? Do you need to have a pinball machine to be a pinball critic?
    65:35
    No. All right. There you go. No, you need to be on the Internet to be a pinball critic. Damn it. Ricky Rue, you don't have a machine, and you're a pinball critic, right? You know what you like and you know what you don't like, and it doesn't matter if the game is the best thing since it's placed. If he doesn't have a machine, does that mean he's not in pinball? No, he's in pinball. He's following it. He's watching the streams about pinball. And here's the other thing. You could have, here, there's people that own Batman 66 that I've talked to that they don't think it's the best shooting game, but they love it because of the theme. Ghostbusters is a hard game. Well, there's 100,000 people in pinball, but 150,000 critics. That's what I'm trying to figure out. Well, think about the collector. How many times could you go play one of your games out on location? to get your investment back.
    66:21
    What? So, let's say I have a Star Wars. Okay. Yeah. $5,400, whatever. I can go out on location and play that. How many times do you have to play? To make it worth owning? I'm saying, you can be at the barcade every weekend and still be a pinball enthusiast. Oh, yeah, for sure. But you don't need to own a game. No. That's where I was getting with that. Oh, yeah. I agree. It took a while to get there, but... No, I get it. All right. By the way, I was busting some balls tonight. I've been busting balls all night. Let's keep it going.
    66:58
    Oh, kickball and ball. Yeah. Oh, the easy one, though. The easy one. Started at 26K. Oh, good times, guys. Again. Always good, guys. It's always a good time. So tonight, again, is our last week. Good job, Bill.
    67:21
    You know I'm just busting your balls a little bit, right? You know what, guys? Oh, I'm not going to lie. You had that look on your face. I've seen that look three times, and I just saw it like if you leave in that machine, like you were upset. I was a little miffed, yes. Miffed. A little miffed. Miffed.
    67:38
    All right, my turn. Yes, Kyle, Earth, everyone is a critic. You can get more than 10 grand. 10K? And it is fashionable to be a critic if you watch some of these guys.
    67:50
    You know what? It doesn't surprise me. I mean, we know a guy out here that he's a big tournament player. I mean, he's got every machine. And you know who I'm talking about. We're not going to mention names, but, you know, you go into his basement, it's just absolutely insane.
    68:05
    Yeah, good time over there. That's a good point, David. Yeah, how will they know to hire you? You know what I mean? Here, I'm going to say this. When we have people over at my house on holidays or neighbors or whatever, and somebody doesn't care about pinball, and they see Wizard of Oz or they see Getaway or they play any of these games, they don't care what the code is. They just enjoy having the game to play. Some of this stuff gets taken a little too seriously. I mean, it's not. There's bigger tragedies in the world today.
    68:40
    You ever miss your ball? Oh, you know what? I did hit that extra ball. Thank you for the reminder. Two golden tickets. Let's turn the game off and on again so we can keep playing. You know what? You don't need to own a game to have a good time playing the league. A lot of times, it's just about getting together with your buddies and having a good time. Zach, I agree. Critics sometimes don't know how to shiitake.
    69:05
    Whoa. Bill. What? Jobridge. We won't say his name, but we'll call him Carl Cromwell. Don't say my name about what? I don't know. Oh. What did I miss? Flippin' out pinball. The web eye. I'm jumping around.
    69:23
    Yeah. See, he's got to check the temperature outside. All right, good. All right, I think we're going to do one more, and then we'll roll into after hours. Sound good? Yeah, regardless, the stream's got to end at 9.30 tonight. So that means the latest we can get out of here is about 11.
    69:36
    No, I'm kidding. We're going to end at 9.30. We're going to end at 9.30 tonight. So stick with us here. Who's player one? Steve is, right? Steve is. So we're going to wait on him for just a second. You know, Kyle, honestly, you keep jumping in here with good points. So thank you very much for sparking the interest of my brain here. You know, what's the question? What's the question? It wasn't a question. It was a statement that he had. What was the statement? Kind of why I sold a bunch of my pins. Couldn't justify having them if you don't play them. You know, Kyle, last winter, going into fall into spring into summer, I was working every time I got a chance on Whirlwind. And it got to a point where I was getting upset because I had just gotten Wizard of Oz and I wasn't playing it because I was trying to finish up Whirlwind.
    70:19
    And honestly, unless it's a game that I'm absolutely in love with, I guarantee you I won't be doing another game like that again. Or at least not for a while. At least not for a couple of weeks when you start your high speed or Transformers. Okay, but that's a different thing there.
    70:34
    I know I love Getaway. and honestly there's times when I go downstairs and it's like do I really need all of these pins you know I know someone that will buy my Baywatch in a heartbeat he's sitting to the right of me and I would sell to him at the bargain price of an undisclosed right I know exactly what it's going for though it hasn't been trending up or down so it's fair game we haven't fluctuated the market on it lately right David Dennis hates people with the ones with accents.
    71:08
    All right. Dennis says, how to become a pinball distributor. Step one, become a pinball reviewer. Step two, give all modern games at least a B. And step three, profit.
    71:19
    Some serious ball busting going on tonight in chat. Dennis is coming real with it. Dennis is trending up today, I heard on Twitter. Is he okay? That was a good podcast. Thanks, guys. Thanks, Zach and Dennis. It was a long podcast today. Dude, I haven't heard it. It was good, but it was long. I have to finish it up soon. I can't remember Twip going two hours and 22 minutes before.
    71:42
    I'm looking forward to finishing that up over the next several weeks. I'm kidding. How long was it? It was two hours and 22 minutes.
    71:50
    That's a long podcast. I've got a slow day at work tomorrow. But you know what? In all fairness, Zach, at least, was off last week because of pinball show fatigue. He was down for the count. You've got to take breaks, man.
    72:07
    We do. We understand. We do. Glenn on 570 says, I love that they made Star Wars Home Edition. There are so many Star Wars fans that will buy the home machine just to sit next to the real-life Stormtrooper. It's George Lucas' basement every time his friends are over at the pinball gets booked. I do agree with that. Yeah. Like, I think by picking Star Wars as that kind of $4,000 pin, it will appeal to a certain Star Wars collector that doesn't want to pay $6,000 to have a Star Wars game. So are these Star Wars, are they going to be just sold by distributors? Are they going to be in Costco's? Not in the United States. They're just distributors from what I understand. Maybe overseas. They had a couple home editions. Yeah. Well, some of those home editions went through Costco, like Transformers. Yeah. machine that went through there. I wish there was a distributor here that could let us know. Before I was in pinball, I remember seeing that and being like, oh, my God, that's all awesome. Yeah, me too. I remember seeing the price and going, oh, not that awesome.
    73:11
    No, Zach, definitely not. I think it's just a question. You know, Derek and Rory, I think that that game's got a pretty decent code set for what it is now from everything we heard today. Whoa-ho! Brother Rorden in the house, man. Haven't heard from you in a while. Whoa-ho!
    73:30
    I was like, uh-oh, what happened to Rorden? Ricky, we've got to listen to the podcast tomorrow. Do find out. We've got to listen to the podcast tomorrow.
    73:41
    See you again! It would literally take us about 20 minutes to recite everything that George Gomez was talking about today. Well, we don't have to recite it because it can be listened to tomorrow. And that's exactly what I said. Especially with the pinball podcast.
    73:56
    Loser Kid subscribes here. Thank you, Loser Kid. A lot of reasons to subscribe. Two months, yeah. I love that the subs are up and people are choosing to come back. That's pretty awesome. Thank you, guys. Thanks, Josh.
    74:11
    Yeah, well, see, Rory's just getting his day started, man. Yeah, so Australia, it's morning there, right? No, I think he's getting close to lunchtime right about now. Okay. So I know Roten's normally at lunch around 9 o'clock our time, because that's normally when we talk, like right before I'm going to sleep. George was not in the house. We actually had him on the phone today. But we did reach out to him to see if he would come and stream with us. Yes, we did. Potentially, that's our home edition pin. So might be some late-breaking stuff with that. You can get an idea how that conversation went tomorrow on Special Winley Pinball Podcast. See you at 1135. I want to listen to it now.
    74:54
    All you've got to do is Brad Kent and start editing. I know. I've got to go home. I've got to... That's one reason I'm not really... You won't stay up too late? Right. And I'm not partaking into the beverages tonight because I've got a lot to edit tomorrow and there's nothing worse than editing fatigued and partially hungover. Oh, it's horrible. It's not fun editing in the first place. Well, it is kind of fun editing. But not when there's a lot going on. No, that episode's They have a lot of stuff. Yeah.
    75:21
    Oh. You're going to get to get the Jordan. I have to organize my sock tour. Nope. Ricky Rue. Jobber, you're wrong, buddy. That would be the special one lit pinball podcast. Hosted by Ken Cromwell and myself. Go ahead.
    75:37
    Yeah, I heard that Zach is not going to Pinnberg. Sponsored by LearMods. He is not going to go to Pinnberg, even though he's one of the lucky few to get a ticket. You're playing well tonight for the most part. End of the game there, bud.
    75:54
    Yeah, the Ricky Ruru. Listen, I mean, I was never into podcasts. I was never a podcast guy. I remember listening to a couple pinball podcasts that were recommended to me, and it really kind of turned me on to listening to other podcasts. Podcasts are not something that you want to sit down with your beer and just listen to with nothing going on. Podcasts are great for that drive into work, shuttling off to the store. Maybe you're working on shopping a pinball machine. You're listening to a pinball podcast. And there's a lot of great pinball podcasts out there. So I'd recommend get your favorite podcatcher. Go on your phone and download like a podcast attic or something. Search pinball. See what shows are updating frequently and what you think appeals to you. Our particular podcast, we're a couple guys out of Chicagoland area that are just pinball enthusiasts that like talking pinball on a weekly basis. So that's kind of what's here. and it's brought us all the way to streaming pinball on Zach Menny and Nicole Menny's Flippin' Out streaming network.
    76:49
    So it's a couple of enthusiasts that got involved. Now we have several outlets in which we can discuss pinball and talk pinball to everybody, and it's been very rewarding and very fun.
    77:04
    All right, guys, just show me back in. Worden said, that's right, right. I don't know. There's a way.
    77:12
    Rick says, why do I look magical? This one will probably be the first one I play. I've got to come halfway around the world to check it out. Dude, you've got to have a walk-in. Somewhere down under there.
    77:26
    By the way, Bill, can you read the white text on the black background better? I think it all kind of blends, but that's okay. It's just that time of night.
    77:37
    Walker's a good game, Rick. I look forward to throwing down a couple of games with you when you get here. 1,400 Wonka's on order already. All right, I could totally see that. But they're making, potentially, they have licenses or whatever for up to 1,500 LEs.
    77:59
    Yeah, so how many? SEs are unlimited. I don't know, man. I'd be curious. I don't even want to speculate on something like that. I'm kind of already, I love the game so much, I wouldn't mind upgrading it. Knock it off. Favorite non-pinball podcast?
    78:16
    Modern Invention is one that I listen to. They talk about, like, the making of cameras and stuff like that. I throw Bill Burr on sometimes just to get a laugh. Yeah. He's kind of ridiculous. I like the ESPN 30 for 30s. I don't know. I love that podcast. So, sports? Yeah, I love sports. Bill likes inventions, history, crap. I like, yeah, guys saying stupid shit comedy. But you know what I like on Netflix and stuff right now? I love the crime documentary stuff where you just see some horrific crime happen, and then the guy looks guilty, but then he gets off on a technicality, but then you find out that he was innocent only to find out that he got reconvicted. I love all that stuff, man. Are you all caught up on Stranger Things season three? Kids come first, brother. I'm in love. Oh, yeah. Kaz, you leaving? Yeah, he's got dirty diapers to change. Hey, Kaz, peace out, man. Good job, buddy. I'll be back in that boat here in another couple months. Looking forward to debuting you tomorrow on Special One Lit, Kaz. Covering American pinball, everybody. Cause.
    79:14
    I love it. Yeah, Scott was in the house tonight. Joe Rogan I haven't listened to, in all honesty. Oh, God.
    79:26
    Good morning, podcast. Yes, I believe the whitewood would fit into a pier. You just strap it to the top of it.
    79:35
    We still need to find a Dutch pinball correspondent. I don't know if there's really a necessity for that one yet. We need to find a Dutch Pinball legal consultant. A lawyer, yeah. Somebody that's from Court TV. That can explain what the hell's going on with ARA. If someone's a lawyer in chat, please contact us. We'd love to have you be a correspondent for some legal questions on some of those things. The only listeners to the special when lit and this week in Pinball Podcast on Continuous Loop. That's awesome. Thank you, John. You're cool, dude. John, we appreciate it. I appreciate it. I'll drink to that. Don't forget about our buddy Jason. He does one, too. He does the Slap Save Pinball Podcast. Him with Matt. Jason Fowler and Matt Kanin. Yep. We've got a lot of podcast buddies. I mean, we've got Josh Rupp who's here in chat for Loser Kid Pinball Podcast. And then don't forget about the Collective Gamers Podcast. And then I was just going to say, Dennis. Yeah, Dennis is like the most. He's a double agent now. He's like the history channel of pinball, man. He's a double agent. because he's with Tony at Eclectic Gamers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he crosses over to TWIP on the opposite weeks. I love it, though. The nice thing with Dennis, though, and this is what I always appreciated when I... I have been on TWIP a couple times. Yep. It's fun to do the podcast and just walk away from it and not have to worry about editing it. I mean, there's nothing more fulfilling than that because you're like, I just had all the fun without any of the work.
    80:55
    It's awesome, man. I do appreciate it. The problem with Dutch Pinball... Hey, Bill. is I've heard that Dutch law doesn't make all cases open and that the ARA Dutch Pinball case is currently sealed. I've not confirmed this personally. Sounds like Dennis could be our legal consultant for Dutch Pinball. He's already on two podcasts. He may as well go for three. He should go for the trifecta. The Hattertricka podcast. I like it. That was a good dude.
    81:25
    It's been a while since I talked to you, Dennis, but, dude, we haven't forgot about you. Sorry guys, you're getting caught up Yup Where we at, Bill? Where we at?
    81:40
    Tell you what, dude, this black background with the white Kind of throws you off Yeah, I don't know I can't read that shit You know what, I would love to see the Big Lebowski get made I would like to see all the people get made whole first That have money into that company That is going for now at the moment But we shall see what happens, in all honesty. I'm still a little leery on that one.
    82:03
    Yeah, right. They sold out, oh, what, 40? Yeah, I guess 40 of them and all the parts. Oh, so the parts. They had a stash of parts, right? They do have a stash of parts. So those are gone already. And some games that aren't completed. Wow. Yeah.
    82:19
    Glencoe, that's a great idea. For the Zach and Den Den Road Trip. Road Twit. Pick up iMoto Arcade to fill in the hours of steam. of that thing do his little creasel. I would love to watch that. That would be good.
    82:37
    Hey, you're in twilight zone. So I guess we can... Hey, there you go. Nicely done. You got a little There it is.
    83:03
    Wonka Vader Malky Ball is the conclusion of the rollover lock from game to game. Hey, and I just saw a golden ticket pop up, Steve. You've got an opportunity, Steve, to get that second golden ticket. Yeah, all right. Let's go.
    83:19
    I think last week we hit the pin quest tier three on the last game. Racking up some jackpots here. Blowing up the machine. Stack a multi-ball.
    83:31
    Oh! Ouch! Steve's having fun. You're having good games tonight, Steve. I was wondering when that was going to start. Yeah, no kidding, right?
    83:42
    Is there like a restart this year? Neil, thank you much, man. Hopefully, if you can pull it off, that would be nice to see. Can you tell from the user interface how many golden tickets have been collected?
    84:02
    I've never had to look. I can't. Does anybody know if you can tell from the user interface on Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory if you can tell how many golden tickets have currently been collected? Because it's giving you a lot of information, and I imagine it's on there somewhere.
    84:22
    Yeah, Beauty's playing well because it's an easy commute. You know, my problem is tonight is I'm just ahead of everything, and it's because I'm not playing with the delayed reaction of drinking. And it's weird. It's just strange to me. I drank two Starbucks before we started playing. Yeah, that's why I'm not falling asleep right now.
    84:43
    We were up a little early. Now, golden tickets are based, I believe, on objectives that are completed during the game, not based on points. So I imagine it's possible to have completely different scores with the same amount of golden tickets, just depending on what your approach to the game is.
    85:00
    All right, so let's leave it up to Chad here. Do we play one more game of Wonka here and take it up to 9 o'clock, or do we cut Wonka here and go into after hours?
    85:09
    We'll take the first. Easy, kid. Lumberjack says yes. Yes to what, though? Yes. Just yes. He just left it up to us. I really enjoy playing. Cut, cut, cut.
    85:20
    Yeah, BD's blowing it up tonight, man. BD is in the zone. After Hours is everything shutting down tonight at 930. We have 36 minutes here, guys. If we start now. We're going to give everybody a nice early night to kind of chill out tonight, including ourselves. We've had a busy week, but we look forward to this so much, there's no way we're going to skip it.
    85:43
    That's why we're here. Yeah, one more game, and let's try to get Tier 3. You want to do that? I'll do that. Let's do it. Let's go. One more game, and we'll go to after hours. And, you know, for those of you that are calling in, we'll keep the calls short and swift tonight, and we'll just keep it moving along. So think about what you guys want to discuss.
    86:02
    You guys want to speculate on what that next cornerstone release is going to be from Stern Pinball, that's fine. If you want to vent about something, that's fine. If you'd like to vent about something that we are doing or not doing, that's fine. We're always looking for constructive feedback. Love critics. And some ball busting. Never going to hurt anybody. Rorden, dude, you get back to Sydney, man. Dude, we won't see you soon enough. All right, brother? Be good. Be good at it.
    86:26
    Rorden, good times, man. Expo's coming up, buddy. We'll be seeing you shortly. Yeah, we're getting real close now. A few months.
    86:35
    State travel, says Zach. Zach, how's everything at home? You taking care of business over there? Everybody's hanging in there or what? This game has moved so much, I can see it's like completely off center on the screen.
    86:53
    It's just like, it's so crooked. Nah, it's the last game, man. Who cares? Oh, you're welcome, Zach. Hey, we care about you, man, because without you, none of this content is going on. I'll tell you that much. I'll tell you right now, without Zach Many, I'm not hanging out in Studio B playing a Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory Standard Edition. We're not on stream. We're not playing. Thank you, people, for bits and follows. XDWX, thanks for the follow. We're not playing at your house either. We're not playing anywhere. No. Well, I mean, we're doing something. Well, yeah, but, dude, we're not doing this. Not on Monday night. Thanks, Zach. Thank you, Nicole. You guys make this possible. The Ricky Roo, thank you for following us, brother. Ricky Roo. Thanks for following. So we've got XDWX and the Ricky Roo both following here. Appreciate it. Thanks, guys.
    87:42
    Man, this game is nice. It's a one-line game. I want to play this all night. Well, I mean, because earlier, I mean, I put up over a million, and I was like, all right, I'm going to be in the group tonight. And then it just continued to kill me. So you want to keep. So now it's like, yeah. And then last week, I couldn't get going, and I didn't get going until the last game. Last game, yep. So it's like one of those you play seven or eight times, and you're able to kind of semi-blow it up like once out of every seven or eight times. But that's just enough. Again, I refer to golf. I love golfing. I'm a horrible golfer. But it's like those two or three shots that happen during the course of 18 holes that you're like, oh, man, I've got to come back because I can do that more frequently.
    88:33
    I love it. Why is Zach never on this? It's because we are remote. So we are in Chicago, and Zach is in Indiana. And Zach was on our stream when we streamed the Black Knight Sword of Rage LE. We revealed that, and that was an outdoor stream in St. Charles. And Zach was on with Ryan Kuyper, who's TurboGrafx7 on Twitch, and Jason Fowler, who's one of the co-hosts of the Splash State Pinball podcast.
    88:58
    That was really, really fun. So we're hosting the channel for Zach, but this whole thing isn't possible without Zach. No. Let's be clear. And I'm pretty sure at some point, well, Zach, I don't know. You tell us, man. But hopefully before the end of summer or beginning of early fall, man, we'll have to have you out one more time and do another stream like that. Yeah, Ken loves those outdoor streams, Zach. He loves them. We should do them once a month.
    89:23
    I think Ken would probably be out of pinball altogether if that was the case, in all honesty. Nice, yeah. You can't be out of ginger ale and jack. That's no good.
    89:36
    All right. Paid sign guy says, good thing this is an abbreviated show tonight. I'm on a gym trail for the Jack. Jack is interested. Why don't you just push me an object? Come on.
    89:49
    Check on the rocks. A little splash of water. You're good. Good stuff. Yeah, Dennis, we'll see if that ever happens, man.
    90:01
    Yeah, I'm looking forward to when you're streaming, brother. do a little talking smack and jumping in chat and maybe a little heckling. It'll be a good time. Yeah, Zach. Zach could be streaming soon here, guys. Zach, Zach, that'd be a good time. Sounds like he's got some extra time. Why's that?
    90:20
    That's like an Aussie moron. Zach has no time. Zach, did you guys find a house? Did you move yours yet or what?
    90:29
    Yeah, Zach definitely puts in a lot of support for this to make it all possible. So everyone, you know, thank you for joining us. And without Zach, we couldn't be doing this. So thank you once again, Zach and Nicole.
    90:42
    Absolutely. Lover Jack, I would say, flipping out pinball, even if you're in Minneapolis. Nice, Zach.
    90:51
    The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. And that's a great play on words, because with Zach's last name being many. Yeah. The needs of the many. Double entendre. That should be a shirt that Dennis sells.
    91:09
    That many has the needs that outweigh all the needs of the few. Absolutely. I like that. There you go, Dennis. I like that. You guys can have conflicting shirts and see which one sells more.
    91:21
    Don't need the profits. Shirt wars. You know what, Jobber? Lloyd is a good dude, too. Lloyd's been on a few times. Yeah, Lloyd's been in chat. Yeah. Great guy.
    91:36
    I think a lot of the distributors work hand in hand, and it's kind of a team effort. Better than Mylar Up. So Zach's other thing is don't forget to practice safe pinball in Mylar Up.
    91:50
    Mylar. I heard today on Twit, you know what? Dennis and Zach talking about sharing rubbers and cleaning them out, reusing them. That's what you got to do. So you don't hear that kind of chat going on on most podcasts, but on this week in pinball.
    92:09
    Imagine somebody just randomly coming in in the middle of that podcast. I'm listening to this like my wife walks in. What are you listening to? And they're talking about sharing rubbers. Dennis asking Zach if he wants his own rubbers and how they can clean them up. Oh, my goodness. Yikes. I need to dedicate two and a half hours tomorrow and check that one out.
    92:31
    Mylar won't allow its likeness used. Absolutely not. Good time, guys. Just getting caught up. So this is going to be our last game, and then we're going to go into after I was here.
    92:47
    We were talking about going earlier, but we've been having fun playing. Yeah, Wonka's a one more round game, man.
    92:59
    That's tough. Yeah, that was entertaining when they were discussing Hobbit. I think Hobbit was cool. I think I drained one time tonight in the right out lane. Wow. And I drained... Actually, none of my drains went straight down the middle tonight. They have been. It's been a little more balanced, I think, this evening.
    93:24
    It's playing differently than last week, and I can't put my... Did you increase the speedness of the bench? Was it the leveling?
    93:32
    No, but is the pin steeper? Is it steeper than it was last week? No. Okay. Maybe. Hang on. You kicked that back left leg up. Yeah. It might be slightly.
    93:44
    Half a degree. Because I can tell, too, on the auto kick, it's never reaching. It's never going above the upper right flipper. It's always falling short.
    93:55
    Hey, Raston350, thanks for following. Thanks for following the Flippin' Up Blue Ball channel. Happy to have you, man. Or wool man. Hobbit or Wonka? I'm going to go Wonka.
    94:06
    Oh, Hobbit or Wonka. I would go Wonka too, but I love Hobbit. Hobbit's a great game. I'd like to get a Hobbit. Hobbit's fun.
    94:16
    I just reached out to somebody selling a Hobbit. I sold Hobbit before it got the major code overhaul. And I still like that game. No.
    94:26
    Yeah. Hobbit's good. Caller S says, entertaining a word, one I wouldn't use but a word. Hobbit's chopping wood. Chopping wood. So with the new code? I don't know. I think Hobbit's a fun pinball experience. I'm starting to realize where I can appreciate a layout and I can appreciate programming and I can appreciate a light show and I can appreciate an art package and I can appreciate an audio package. I can appreciate all those things individually. But for me now, it's the pinball experience. It's about me wanting to come in and play one more game. Yeah, which is why we're going into it. We're eating in the after hours with Iwanka. So anybody who's looking to buy Iwanka, we've got Zach and Nicole at Flippin' Out Pinball. Might be able to help some people out. Probably help you out.
    95:22
    If he has any more. I don't know. Man, this game is rocking. Minus the mug shots. I love the mug shots, I would say. Yeah, the mug shots are a good time.
    95:40
    Ah, okay. The walk-a-leys are out this month. Nice. Is this game done? This game is done. Couldn kill it in the middle of Somebody might have put a name in there or something I don feel like playing one more game because that game just really aggravated me here Tell us how you really feel The one or two good
    96:12
    Hey, we're back. Chup, chup, chup. All right. So, Willy Wonka. Ken goes for a smoke break. I don't go for a cigarette. I'm going to start smoking cigarettes after that. Oh, my goodness, man. Oh, my goodness. Oh, Miss Finn got her wanka today. That's cool. I didn't know that they were. Oh, nice. Could she have gotten an LE? Are LEs already shipping? That's pretty awesome. I think people were getting their LEs today. That's good. I like hearing that.
    96:39
    In any event, we have 25 more minutes here to kind of wrap up after hours. We're going to open up the flipping out pinball call-in line.
    96:52
    And, Zach, if you're in chat, if you want to give us a call and kick this thing off, we've got 25 minutes to rock and roll.
    96:59
    I need a hard, hard 930 call. Hard 930 break, okay. Yeah, right. Hey, what's up, man? Hey, how's it going, guys? Hey, how are you? You know what? I was getting a little bit mad at Wonka just now. and had to turn the game off because it was owning me tonight.
    97:23
    That's my favorite thing to do whenever I get pissed off at a pin. I just straight turn it off and I don't turn it back on for at least 24 hours. It's like you pulled the life support. Like the thing had a life of its own and it was coming against you. I didn't even show that score. You're like, nope.
    97:38
    No. Exactly. Everybody having a good time tonight? I'm out here. I'm outside actually burning some bill right now. You guys are on smoke breaks or what?
    97:49
    Did you say Bernie Fishtails? Bernie Fishtails. Hey, so. This is the last week of Wonka. This is bittersweet for me. It is, man.
    97:59
    What's going on with, hey, PinQuest just fulfilled the 1,750 bits that he promised reward for tier two. Neil, thanks, man. It was fun. PinQuest is a really fun. My voice sometimes has an effect on people like that. Yeah. Well, you know what? You should call more often if we're going to get 1,750 bits. So we'll just make this your own segment. What's going on with Wonka's? Are there some available? Are LEs available? Do you have lines, people waiting? Like, what's the situation? So the way it is is about three weeks ago or so, they were building a hell of a lot of standards. They shipped standards, shipped standards, shipped standards, put standards on a whole. Now they're building LEs, building LEs, shipping LEs. Now after that comes the collector's edition where they're going to build, build, build, and then they're going to go back to the LEs for a little bit, build, build, build, and then more standard. Oh, wow. I think that's the pattern at which they are manufacturing right now. Okay. So, I mean, do you have a long list of people in the queue, or can people get in with flipping out pinball and get a WANCA in a relatively respectful amount of time? I mean, honestly, if anybody wants a standard, an LE, or a collector's edition, and they will be able to get it from us at Flippin' Out Pinball. That will probably be the quickest because they're building those right now. And then we still have some open spots for collector's editions for those of you who are ballers. And a standard edition. I would buy a CE, honestly, no bullshit. I would love to buy one. But they're expensive. Do we know what's going in on the CEs? Because that's still kind of been kind of under wraps as far as what you're going to actually get, right?
    99:40
    We do not know. I anticipate right before they go on the line, they'll let people know. At least they know what the hell they're getting. And then after all that's been done, standards are going to be rolling back out at the end of summer, beginning of fall, I believe. So any model that you want, we're able to get it for you. And I also wanted to make note that the Black Knight Sword of Rage LE that we were streaming prior to Wonka is available, and that's at Studio A here in St. Charles, Illinois. So if anybody's looking to grab that, come over and play it. I think we've got $80,000, $100,000 on it right now, which is a freaking steal considering they're $9,000. Yeah. And you got to fairly touch the thing.
    100:19
    Yeah. Might have to work that off of it one day on my other special one. I would stream that again, man. That's a fun game. It is a fun game. I've grown to appreciate it more and more, playing it not on stream. And I've just kind of focused on enjoying the pin. And I do like it. And, again, I said before. It's a fun journey to take, too. It is. those different monsters and battles and trying to get your multiball, it's a lot of fun. It is a lot of fun, and it's not a game that I had high hopes for for myself personally, because I didn't think it was going to appeal to me, and it has. So that's always a nice surprise after playing a pin, getting used to it and realizing it. Ken, what I wanted to know, for all of those in chat right now, I want them to type in chat what they think that we're going to see next from Stern Pinball. I'd love to see what everybody thinks. Let's see what they think here. Let's see. You're going to have to say that last. And if you answer it incorrectly, you get booted from chat. Okay. Permanent ban for life. Come on, chat. Type it in there. Let's see. Not Nickelback. Come on.
    101:22
    We got Zebadoza says Jurassic Park. Lumberjack says Jurassic Park. RimTrim1980 says Elvira. David DeVinnis says Greg's Mom.
    101:36
    Jurassic Park or World from Cap 12. Stranger Things because I believe in God says call wrath. I would love Stranger Things I'm a huge Stranger Things Season 3 just wrapped up recently 42 Gifts Whoa, Cary, come on man What about a theme that's not been done before?
    101:57
    Oh jeez Man, it's getting kind of ugly in here Lumberjack says please not world referring to Jurassic Park I've seen a lot of Jurassic Jaws Jurassic, Stern's Wonka Okay. All right, Chad. Thanks a lot. The Ricky Rui's that he expects to be a Keith Elwin gem. I want Chad to type in what they would like to see from Stern, and that can include dolls or Jurassic Park or Greg's model, whatever it is, what they would like to see next from Stern Pinball.
    102:28
    See how close we are here. Smurfs. Stranger Things, Superman, Sea of Bum. Superman, okay. Smurfs. Back to the Future, Harry Potter, Stranger. Something with Subways again. When was the last Stern game that had Subways? Ghostbusters? I know Ghostbusters now.
    102:47
    Avril Lavigne. Oh! Hey, Doonies. Die Hard. Something with Subways. Avril Lavigne. Airplane. Halo. Jaws would be dope.
    102:58
    Airplane. Fast. I picked the wrong week to quit. And also Greg's mom. Halo, Jaws. Okay. Zelda. Zelda would be cool. Yeah, Zelda. You know Nintendo. Yes, I did. Pinball podcast was pinball. Oh, my gosh. I'm out. Only if Dennis Creasle was a wizard mode so nobody ever fucking sees him. Oh, my gosh. The problem is everybody thinks they'd be a wizard mode, so the whole game would be wizard modes and mini wizard modes. That's right. Oh, my gosh. Narcissism mode. That's right. So it looks like my experience was I wanted to see what people thought was coming out versus what they would like to come out. What about you, Zach? What would you like? I mean, what would you like to see? Your dream thing.
    103:49
    Back to the Future is the correct choice. The Goonies is another correct choice. Yep, we saw both of those mentioned. If we did get a Jurassic Park, I'm self-confident it would be freaking awesome. I'd take a Jurassic World, too. I would take Jaws. I don't know. Jaws is fine. Harry Potter would be great. Yeah. Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers right out there for Dennis Creep. That would be awesome. Queen would be cool. I love Queen. Queen would be cool. So there's a lot of cool. I'd even take, honestly, a rap pinball machine like Eminem or Dre or somebody like that. Or some NWA.
    104:27
    Yeah, that's a little more old-fashioned. Oh, damn. Listen, a Dr. Dre Snoop Dogg The Chronic pinball machine would be pretty freaking awesome. 2001 The Chronic? No, like the 1990s. Early, late 90s. Yeah. Was that 2001? Well, there was 2001, and then the original Chronic came out in 92 or 93. Yeah, I'm talking about like 93, 94, whatever that was. What I think is interesting, though, the people that chose what they think is going to come out, I think collectively those choices were actually better than the list that everybody provided what they wanted. So that's kind of a good sign. Yeah, right? Yeah, right. Pink Floyd, yeah, that is. I could see that. Pink Floyd would be a killer light show in moments. Pink Floyd would be really cool. But, again, I like the big blockbuster ones. Give me a big old blockbuster. All right, Zach, would you be on like a Fast and Furious or Gone in 60 Seconds? Oh, Bill, I know you like that Fast and Furious. And you can say no, dude. This is opinion. It doesn't mean you have the right opinion. I think Fast and Furious may be a good choice to produce, considering what manufacturers are making nowadays, beamworks. Yep. I wouldn't be in on one because I'm not a huge fan. Okay. I'm not a huge fan of it, but I think it's a good choice. You know what? I would love to see something that's been a blockbuster, I think, as of late. I would love to see a John Wick pin with Keanu Reeves. I don't know if you've seen the movies, but I mean, they're just adrenaline rush, just fun, ridiculous, over-the-top style. And I think it would lend itself well. I think that'd be good. Right now, I think if somebody hit everybody up with the Stranger Things, I'm with you, Ken. I think that would be dynamite. If they hit that anywhere from now until the next series starts, I think you'd maximize sales on that game. Because right now, it's hitting on all cylinders. Would you include all three seasons of Stranger Things if you were to do the pin, or would you focus on season one?
    106:23
    I think the smart move would be focusing on season one, but dashing in a little bit season two and three as needed, kind of like they did on Ghostbusters. Yeah, sure. Okay. I think that's what you need to do, because the first one is the series. That's what everybody was presented with. That's what everybody fell in love with, so you focus on that. But then there are some beloved parts in season two and three which need to be included as well. Some of the relationships that have grown over time that you don't get in season one, those need to show up somewhere. And for those of you just joining in, we've got Zach Menny, the owner of Flippin' Up Pinball, on the line on the Flippin' Up streaming network. So, Zach, it's always good to have you here, man. Last thing I'll say before I leave, you wonderful, beautiful man, is that if anybody is considering, We're going to see this Stern pin hopefully within now and the next four months. How about we say that? The next four months.
    107:18
    That's right. If you see this pin and you fall in love with it and you're thinking about purchasing it, give us a call, and we'd be happy to put you down for it. If they do a pro premium LE bottle, as they usually do, we'd love to put you down for one. Hey, Zach, before you get going, all right, so one other one that just kind of came to mind because I was watching it over the weekend. What about a national treasure pin done by JJP?
    107:44
    I think that would be so horrible that it would be great. Nicholas Cage on anything would be fantastic. Give me Nicholas Cage all day long.
    107:58
    You know what? Last thing. Why in the hell are these manufacturers not making comedy pins? It's the stupidest thing in the world. Dumb and dumber. You've got Ace Ventura, Kingpin. We've talked about it here recently, I believe, or no, we're upcoming. We're going to be talking about it on the street in the middle next week. But these comedy films, National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation, The Regular Vacation with Chevy Chase. I want to see Chris Farley in pinball machines. I want to see some funny, good stuff. What if you just did like a Saturday Night Live pin, and you just featured as many guests as you could, and you could code update that pin to include other guests that you signed on? You know, that would be kind of cool. I want funny pins and I want scary pins. For some reason, we just deal with action because the silver bowl is so wild. Action or music pins. That's constantly going on. I think pinball is bigger than that. Yeah, I hear you. If you want to see comedy in pinball, just watch me play Willy Wonka tonight, Zach. Hey, you had a damn good game there, Ken. Yeah, I had one, man, but it's like, you know how it goes. You know what you're capable of, right? Last thing in chat. For those of you that follow this week in Pinball Podcast, thank you. For those who don't, what the hell are you doing? But in chat, I want to hear, for Dennis Creasel, how many people would love to see a live-filming documentary of Dennis Creasel and I touring across America on our Friendship Forever Tour, whatever the hell I called it. Dennis Creasel and I, road trip, listening to music, him pissed off most of the time, me feeding him little funyuns, that would be great. I think of like American Pickers where you guys are just driving, you've got the dash cam set up. And the flipping out van. I think of Dumb and Dumber. I think of Dumb and Dumber on the scooter. That'd be the ultimate road to Wienermobile. You should do something like that. They got rid of my Market Trends t-shirt, but now I'm fighting for road trips. Road trips. Make a head to it. All right, thanks guys. I appreciate all the support. You guys are wonderful for doing it each and every week, the most entertaining stream on Twitch, in my opinion. And tell them, Ken, we're just getting warmed up. There's a lot getting ready to rock and roll. You know it's coming. We are literally just on the tip of the iceberg. So for those of you that are starting at ground zero with us, it's going to be fun to grow the channel with you guys. It's going to be good times. Pinball Nerds had a great comment, Zach. I don't know if you got to read it yet. I haven't. What's up? I would legit, from Pinball Nerds Podcast, I would legit sponsor your road trip. It would be incredible. I'm thinking Borat meets Jackass.
    110:36
    Yes, and I don't want to know which one's which, but maybe we'll pick up Orby on our way. A little international. Oh, that'd be awesome. Maybe you get him and you smuggle him across the border back into the U.S. and bring him to Expo. How's that? Pick up Orby to Albert and bring him to Expo. Making of a murderer. I want to get into some recreational activities with Dennis Crossford, if you know what I'm saying. Hey, good times, man. Well, that's Zach. We've got 11 minutes if anybody wants to chime in and give us a quick call after I was running a little bit short tonight. But always good to hear from Zach. Very, very good times. Bolt a machine in the flipping out van and play while driving down the road. That'd be real tough, man. Like, if you went to the pinball-like parties before Expel, they always have a pinball machine that's connected to something that's rotating or bouncing, and it adds a whole different aspect to the plane. Oh, that was horrible, that orbiter. Dude, that effed you up, man. I walked into that, and it's like, so the machine's in this spinning tube, but the machine's staying, I don't know, I couldn't even figure out what was going on, but it messed me up. Norske Pinball is followed. Thank you so much for following. Thank you, Norske. Good times. Yeah, the Pinball Olympics. Yep. I know Jay Brand does a lot of the Pinball Olympics set up up there, and Pinball Life, If you have not had an opportunity to stop in at Pinball Life prior to Expo, that Wednesday, Thursday, I think are like the days where they're pretty casual.
    111:59
    And then that Friday is – or no, Thursday is the rocking day, right, up there at Pinball Expo? No, Friday. Friday is the rocking day. Thursday is the mellow day. But listen, if you want to go, because the tickets are limited, like right when they announce you've got to get your tickets, because every year people are upset because they didn't realize the tickets were on sale and they missed out and they don't print additional tickets. And it doesn't matter who you are. And we've known Terry for years and literally he's like, dude, I'm not at the door. It doesn't matter who you are. You're not getting in. Right. Yeah. No, I agree. Unless you're Ken or Bill. No. You know what happened? We were almost in deep crap last year. I got our tickets and I washed them on accident. They were in my pocket. And then I came out and they were all, it looked like some relic, right? So I had to bring him the pinball life. I didn't have to, but I showed Margaret, and I'm like, is this going to fly? And she asked Terry, and he's like, yeah, just have him hold on to those and bring him in. But there was no, like, here's a new ticket. None of that stuff. There was no new tickets to be had. No. Tickets started a year or two ago. Yeah, because they had a couple interesting years. When is the stern release of the new flagship pin? So we talked to George Gomez tonight on Special Only Pinball Podcast, and he said in the next few days you will have a reveal. And if you want to hear more on that interview, join us on Episode 61, a special one-lit pinball podcast that airs tomorrow. I'll be editing that up in the morning and putting that up.
    113:22
    TM Cowgrass, too, has followed. Thank you for the follow. Appreciate it. So this has been a pretty chilled, tame chat tonight, guys. I couldn't have gone any better. I wish the playing was a little better on mine. You had a really good night on Wonka, though. You had a decent ball. So I had a decent ball. Pivot Nerds Podcast. Albert, thanks for the 10-bits, man. Always good to have you, Jet. I can't wait to hear your adventures with Dennis and Zach as you ride the back of the flipping out pinball van and make your way into the United States. Fly on the wall. I would love to be a fly on the wall. I could see Zach throwing on some, like, Boy George, come a, come a, come a, come a, you know, just to drive Dennis nuts. And him grabbing a bottle and cracking Zach with it. I could just see some ugly things. We were talking earlier where on this next release for Stern, if their reveal makes sense time and date-wise, we would love to do a tailgate party stream where we all get together right before the announcement. We stream here on Flippin' Out Pinball, similar to what we did before they revealed Jersey Jack Pinball's Willy Wonka at MGC, and just have a party, a tailgate party. And then we just take all of our viewers here, and we bring them right into the, if it's a stream, we bring it into the stream. And if it's something else, then we just kind of all watch in real time. So that would be pretty fun. 42 gets. Normally it's around between 7 and 7.30. Yeah. 7 and 7.30 on Mondays and sometimes the occasional Tuesday.
    114:51
    Creasel's not going to Expo. Well, I've been talking to Dennis trying to get him to Expo. And he says no? Well, I think he's waiting for a roommate potentially to just kind of split the room. Because it's a long drive for him to get to Expo and have to pay the Expo. Zass got a pretty sweet van. Yeah. He does. It says free candy on it and everything. Free candy. Free pinball? Well, that's how you lose it, yeah. Dennis says, interested guest host for TWIP should email thisweekinpinball at gmail.com and express their interest. So, come on, Dennis. You've got to get out here if you can. Yeah, I would love to have Dennis come out this way. Yeah, man. I'm not sure about my scheduling for Expo this year with having a child.
    115:32
    October 9th, we're going to be making deals with all of my wife's friends to hopefully come keep her company and watch my newborn son, but we'll see.
    115:43
    Honestly, in all seriousness, family first. You're going to be a play-by-ear to family first before pinball. Family first stuff, man.
    115:54
    Yeah, you know. Poo and bull. Yeah, Creasel has to go to Expo. We'll see. That should be a shirt for Creasel right there. That'll get him to Expo. Sacks is matching Expo jammies for himself and Creasel.
    116:09
    Like onesies or what? Onesies, right? We'll get some onesies. Some market trend onesies. Like Zach's got one that's got like a trending down area. Dennis has one that's going to be trending up. So that would be kind of fun.
    116:21
    Let's see who's calling in on the... Well, no way to answer this call. I don't know what's going on with this tonight.
    116:32
    Having some issues. No way to answer. Let me go ahead and dial this back here. All right. Sorry, caller.
    116:49
    Not sure what's going on tonight with that. Call back if you can. Try again. We still have five minutes left before we shut this puppy down.
    116:57
    Oh, Albert, call one more time, man. I'm sorry, buddy. It's not that we didn't answer. It's just there's something going on with the interface. Yeah. With our calls all the time. We should take a little pop-up if that happens. That's pretty messed up, though. So if you don't mind, if you can go ahead and give us one more call. There we go.
    117:15
    Thanks for calling the Flippin' Out Streaming Network. What's up, you maniac? Oh, Dave, you're calling in on Albert's freaking phone call, man. What up, Dave? How are you, buddy? Dave's got an 847, man. I'm sorry. Yeah, that's okay, man. What's going on?
    117:30
    I'm sorry. Do you want me to hang up? Well, you've got about a minute, though. Please. Oh, so I can't tell the story about when I saved Carmen Electra from a polar bear?
    117:39
    Not tonight, but I do enjoy that. Well, I only got a minute, but I was kind of just throwing out some over-unders and stuff on this new game.
    117:50
    Okay. It's going to be more than three flippers. Yeah, I would say it's going to have I would say over.
    117:57
    Are they going to be full-size? Is the third one going to be a full-size or a nubby? I think you'll see one full-size and one nubby.
    118:05
    For the extras? So you think it's going to be few? You're going four. I'm going four flippers. You're going four? One full size, one nubby, full Elwin style. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How about a lockdown button?
    118:18
    Yes, I think that's going to be kind of standard in a lot of their games. Well, Iron Maiden didn't have it. That's true. That's true, man. I don't know. Might be an Elwin signature move. How about if Pat Waller doesn't have it?
    118:34
    Yeah, that's true. That's true. I don't know. How cool would this be if it was Jurassic Park and that button was like the T-Rex has to eat the ball?
    118:43
    Well, that's my third one. Like a hungry, hungry hippo? Since we're saying T-Rex, I mean, do you think there's going to be a motorized T-Rex of some sort in that game? Or is there going to be a plexiglass?
    118:55
    Or like a bash toy or something? Yeah. It's got to be better than the one from 93. And I think that kind of set the bar high with the T-Rex. It's got to be better. Yeah. Yep. That's the one thing I don't like about that game. I think you're going to have to see something that, yeah, the new release, the modern version, if it is the same title, it can't be short on what the original had. It doesn't make any sense. At that point, you're going in a different direction. Don't put yourself up for a direct comparison on something that came out 25 years ago. No, you can't.
    119:29
    That's just my opinion. You've got to be better than that. Right. So, I mean, I'm thinking like an open mouth that's going to be a ball eater of some sort. We've got like a kiss style or something. Yeah, I don't know. We've got a few days to win.
    119:42
    Will Samuel Jackson be in this game? See, that's interesting because you've got a lot of actors that you'd have to pay royalties to in order to get the license.
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    I just don't know. You see the complexity of licenses now, and it's like you almost don't expect a full license anymore. I know. It's like who can you take? and who would be acceptable. Samuel L. Jackson. But then again, Star Wars had some pretty full stuff happening there. Yeah, that's true too, man. I don't know. Get that mother-effing T-Rex off my mother-effing play field. Wait. All right, man. Well, thanks, Dave. Thanks for chiming in again. It's always good hearing from you every week. Absolutely, brother. Hey, guys, if I don't call in, I have a bad week. You get Twitches? I get it. We appreciate it, man. If we don't hear you call in. We love it. It's just not an official stream. Yeah, let me just wrap it up on you. Thanks. Thanks, man. Thanks for giving me my outlet. I appreciate it, buddy. Thanks, Dave. Have a good night, brother. All right.
    120:38
    We'll keep the phone line open for one more minute and see if Orbital Albert calls back in from Pinball Nerds. And if not, we'll go ahead and shut it down. So we'll pay some respects to our sponsors tonight. First and foremost, we have Scott of Penn Stadium, who's been sponsoring the stream since we started. All of his Penn Stadium kits have illuminated every game that we've brought in on stream, and will continue to do so. So thank you, Scott. Neil at PinQuest has offered a completely different way for us to kind of have fun streaming these games. So I want to thank Neil for everything that he's done and for his generous contributions to our PinQuest challenges. Big time.
    121:16
    You've got to be kidding me. It was just green. Yeah, I don't understand. Hit that red. That's going to hang it up. Try it. You have no other choice. Hit hold.
    121:30
    I just don't get it. Hello? Is it Ken? You're searching for me. Maybe he's not supposed to. Try some more time. Albert, I'm so sorry, man. There we go. Oh, there it is. Screen.
    121:49
    Hey, thanks for calling the Flippin' Up Pinball Network. Ha, ha, ha. There we go. You failed. You failed answering the call. I failed with my podcast update. Oh, John, you're supposed to be keeping the line open for Orbital Alberts. What is going on? Everybody's sabotaging here. We had Dave Fulgren sabotage. Now we've got Dr. John sabotaging. Oh, my goodness.
    122:12
    Nobody listen to us. They just call in. Well, listen, we're going to end the stream with you, Dr. John. What's going on?
    122:19
    Oh, no. I've just been stuck treating patients. I missed the entire stream. Was Scott on? Did you have him? Yeah, Scott was on. Scott was on, yeah. That was on. so absolutely hey I want to take a minute FN Slayer thank you so much for the bits I didn't mean to cut you off Dr. John but I always want to say thanks for that thank you very very much I appreciate it we appreciate it Dr. John what kind of a doctor are you is that something you can disclose yeah yeah I'm a maxillofacial surgeon if you know anything about that trauma I had a whole stack of people with broken jaws today that but it came in at once, so I was looking at all them and working out theater times to put them back together again. Wow. It sounds like a bunch of broken jaws at once. Tuesday morning here, I get to watch the stream between consults, but I got stuck with these patients, which is good because it pays for my pinball habit.
    123:15
    It pays for my addiction. On these days, you have to be some sort of a doctor if you're going to afford all these new and bad pins, so it's like, I don't know what it is. I'm not a doctor, but I play one on stream, right? hey so you're coming into town right you said you'll be in chicago uh here on monday
    123:34
    or no no no no we fly out monday we go to new york for three days uh and then we've got pinberg for the four days and then we fly into chicago the monday after so we're there the monday tuesday wednesday and we fly out on the thursday morning so there will be drinking sessions at some stage Okay. Well, maybe. First of all, we have to connect at some point, but maybe if the streaming schedule coincides with you. Because you're bringing your daughter, right? You guys are traveling together? Yep. Okay. Well, maybe we can have two pinball players come on and show us how it's done and get you guys on stream if you're up for it and see if the schedule works out. And it'll be a B-sign. We will do it. And if my wife breaks my jaw. My dollar gang could have done it. Yeah, no, we'll not be playing dollar games. We will not be doing that. If you like US dollars. Poor Neil, PinQuest is just saying if we get a ball that lasts for 40 seconds, he's throwing us 500 minutes. It's going down and down every week. Every week it's more and more attainable. Three of you combined. Right, right. But, no, it's good. I'm looking forward to meeting you guys and having you come out.
    124:35
    No, it was good. We dropped into Vegas a couple of years ago, and they had a New Year's Eve tournament at Flippersville. And we turned up to that, and they said, oh, would your daughter like to play? Because she was 14 at the time. I said, yeah, she likes a bit of pinball. They said, that's great. and it was about 30 players, and after every round, it was a strikes tournament, and after every round, they'd come up to me and say, how old is she? I'd say 14. She just beat us, and I said, yeah, you'll get used to it, and she ended up coming third, only behind the Nevada State champion and the California State champion. That's amazing.
    125:07
    She's pretty good. That's amazing. Yeah, I'm looking forward to see some pinball skills and flipping, and I'll make sure I forget my wallet at home, because I'm not going to be tempted to be taking any dollars out at all. Can't be robbed in my own home. That's horrible. But awesome, Dr. John. So good times. Get back to work, man.
    125:26
    I will. All right. Catch you all. All right. Good night. Thanks for calling in. Later. Bye. That's going to wrap up the stream, guys. I appreciate everybody that stuck around. If you joined us when we launched at 730 and you made it all the way through the night, great. Pins rule. Thank you very much. Dr. John, thanks for calling in. Thanks for the bits, man. Evan Slayer, again, thanks for 1,000 bits. Oh, yeah. Thanks for everybody that donated tonight. And thanks, if you weren't able to donate, that's okay. I mean, thanks for just joining us here. That's what makes the stream the stream and all that. Your gift is your presence. As corny as it sounds, it's absolutely correct. And I wanted to go ahead, and finally, we wanted to thank Zach and Nicole Menny at Flippin' Up Pinball for giving us the opportunity, seriously, to spend this time with you guys on Monday nights, stream these games. I'm looking forward to next week with Scott Denisey as he comes in with his TNA Whitewood. Okay, this is the game. It's not skin with artwork. This original pin that he made. The Sharpie version. The Sharpie version, exactly. We'll see that. The week after that, we'll have another pin that Zach's working on right now. That'll be disclosed when he finds out what that is. Maybe we'll be able to disclose that by next week. And then hopefully we're into the Stern Cornerstone game, that potentially could be dinosaur-themed. Good times. Yeah, good times for sure. For Steve Beattie and Bill Webb, I am Ken Cromwell. Everybody have a good morning, good afternoon, good evening. And don't forget to take some time out of your day and play some pinball. So long, everybody. See you later.
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    you