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#74 Bally KISS - The Classic Pinball Podcast

The Classic Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·31m 32s·analyzed·Feb 1, 2022
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TL;DR

Classic Pinball Podcast reviews Bally KISS (1979) with gameplay walkthrough and design history.

Summary

George and Dave discuss Bally's 1978/1979 KISS pinball machine, covering its design by Jim Potla, artwork by Kevin O'Connor, gameplay mechanics centered on spelling KISS multiple times to light bonuses, and the machine's technological limitations that prevented it from becoming the talking/music-heavy showcase Gene Simmons wanted. They play several games and note the machine is a solid B+ game that's relatively uncommon to find despite 17,000 units produced.

Key Claims

  • KISS was released in June 1979, though the project date was April 1978

    high confidence · Dave corrects the release date, noting project date of '78 but release of June '79

  • Jim Potla designed the game and Kevin O'Connor did the artwork

    high confidence · George and Dave state these credits directly

  • Approximately 17,000 KISS machines were produced

    medium confidence · George states '17,000 in these' regarding production numbers

  • The game uses two KISS songs: 'I Want a Rock and Roll All Night' and 'Shout It Out Loud'

    high confidence · Dave identifies the two songs in the game

  • Gene Simmons wanted KISS to be a talker with music technology, but the technology wasn't ready at the time

    medium confidence · George discusses Gene's vision for cutting-edge technology that came too early, citing Xenon and 8-Ball Deluxe as later games that got the technology

  • Dave purchased his KISS machine in the early 1990s for $1,100 from someone in Revere who had gotten it from either Boston Garden or a Boston arcade

    high confidence · Dave provides detailed purchase history and location information

  • The original list price for KISS was approximately $1,700

    medium confidence · George and Dave estimate the new distributor price based on comparison to similar games from that era

  • Bally had an edict that girls on backglass had to be 'grapefruit size'

    medium confidence · Dave references this as a known Bally policy from the era, mentions bringing a grapefruit to show Kevin O'Connor

  • KISS is sister game to Super Sonic with similar five-lane upper playfield design

    high confidence · George and Dave make this comparison during gameplay discussion

Notable Quotes

  • “Dave, to use a cliche, are you ready to rock and roll and party every day?”

    George @ opening — Opening hook using KISS song reference

  • “And Gene Simmons is two S's are money, dollar signs.”

    Dave @ mid-show — Commentary on Gene Simmons' financial motivations and the merchandise angle

  • “It's no Fathom, no Eight Ball, but it's a solid... B-plus, I guess.”

    Dave @ rating — Dave's quality assessment of the game's standing in the classic pinball hierarchy

  • “Knights in Satan's Service, George. Kiss.”

    Dave @ trivia — References the 1970s urban legend about KISS's acronym and satanic associations

  • “You're not tuning into this podcast if you're looking for accuracy.”

    George @ meta-commentary — Self-aware acknowledgment that the hosts don't always have precise technical knowledge but prioritize entertainment

  • “I am actually dumbfounded that people actually listen to us.”

    George @ closing — Running self-deprecating joke about the podcast's informal, knowledge-gap approach

Entities

GeorgepersonDavepersonJim PotlapersonKevin O'ConnorpersonGene SimmonspersonPaul StanleypersonJohn ReuterpersonBowenperson

Signals

  • ?

    historical_signal: Jim Potla designed Bally KISS; Kevin O'Connor created artwork. The game represents an era when Bally attempted to incorporate celebrity licensing.

    high · George and Dave directly credit designers and discuss Kevin O'Connor's extensive portfolio of classic game artwork

  • ?

    design_innovation: KISS was conceptualized with advanced talking/music features that were technologically infeasible in 1978-79. Later games like Xenon and 8-Ball Deluxe achieved this capability.

    high · George states: 'they wanted to really have this their breakthrough game with this one here for the high-end technology, but it just was too early'

  • ?

    product_strategy: KISS machine was a commercial play on the band's then-current relevance, with Gene Simmons driving technological ambitions to make it cutting-edge.

    medium · George notes 'KISS was still very relevant as a rock and roll band, so that why he cashing in on that too' and Dave notes Gene's financial focus

  • ?

    collector_signal: Despite 17,000 units produced, KISS machines are uncommon in the collector market. George notes: 'for making 17,000 of these you don't see these out and about too often'

    high · George and Dave both observe the scarcity of KISS machines relative to production numbers; notes a rare whitewood was at Fun Spot in Laconia, NH

  • $

    market_signal: Original distributor pricing estimated at ~$1,700 (1979). Secondary market pricing in early 1990s was $1,100 for used, mostly-working condition.

    medium · Dave paid $1,100 in the 1990s; George and Dave estimate original list price around $1,700

Transcript

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0:30
Hello and welcome to another episode of the Classic Pinball Podcast. My name is George and I'm joined by my co-host Dave. Hello Dave. Hello George.
0:51
Dave, to use a cliche, are you ready to rock and roll and party every day? And all night too, certainly. Why not? I guess you have already guessed, audience, we're going to talk about.
1:07
Bally Kiss 1978. Dave, you want to take the reins for a few minutes and tell us a little bit about a game? I have one story, but I'm going to save it because we haven't talked about this person in quite some time.
1:22
Well, I will say one thing about this game. The project date was 78, but the release date is 79. June 79 is when it came out, but the project date was actually in April of 78. So I read wrong. That's all right. The backlash says 78, so you're not totally wrong.
1:39
Oh, it does. It does. But it got released in 79. Okay. Do you want to tell the folks a little bit about the game? The design was done by whom? Design was done by Jim Potla. And who did the artwork? kevin o'connor now we talked about him in one of our episodes i went and did a little research and i'm sure you're looking at it as we speak talking about kevin or jim i'm talking about kevin okay kevin did the artwork on a couple of games that i own and probably games that our audience is familiar with and i'm not going to talk about recent games because he is a stern employee. Dave and I talked about we're going to see him at Pentastic in a little under a week.

George once played KISS at John Reuter's house with a tournament player named Bowen, who significantly outplayed him

high confidence · George tells anecdote about meeting competitive player through their neighbor

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  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Hosts acknowledge confusion about how the four-color KISS grid system works and what triggers arrow progression, indicating the game's rules are not immediately intuitive to experienced players.

    high · George repeatedly asks 'how does it get from color to color?' and Dave admits 'to all the excitement, I kind of forgot myself how that happens'

  • ?

    restoration_signal: Dave's KISS required minor tilt bob/capacitor repair when purchased. Game has been maintained and is now in excellent playable condition despite not being set up for several years.

    high · Dave describes fix: 'the capacitor was shorter than the tilt bob. So I cut that and it was good to go' and notes game 'still playing beautifully'

  • ?

    personnel_signal: Kevin O'Connor's career spans from 1970s-80s classic games (Flash Gordon, Medusa, KISS) through modern Stern productions (AC/DC, Batman). He is currently a Stern employee.

    high · George and Dave detail O'Connor's extensive portfolio and note he is 'a stern employee' and will appear at Pentastic event

  • ?

    industry_signal: KISS rates as a 'B+' game in the collector/player hierarchy—solid, fun, but not among the most sought-after classics like Fathom or Eight Ball. Useful for variety in a collection.

    high · Dave: 'it's a B plus, I guess' and 'It's no Fathom, no Eight Ball, but it's a solid' game. George: 'if it's the only game you had, it's good in the lineup. You know, it's good for a variety.'

  • ?

    content_signal: George requests sound samples from the KISS machine for future podcast use, indicating audio collection is part of their content strategy.

    high · George asks Dave to 'make a little sound package for you' for later shows

  • ?

    community_signal: George's early exposure to competitive pinball via neighbor Bowen at John Reuter's house; later created 'Classic League' to address skill/entertainment gap for casual players.

    high · George recounts playing KISS with tournament player Bowen and being outmatched, leading to later design of Classic League for more balanced play experiences

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Bally had specific aesthetic guidelines for backglass female figure sizing ('grapefruit size'), reflecting industry standards of the era.

    medium · Dave: 'Bally back in this time frame, they had an edict. The edict was the girls on the back class in the classics, they had to be grapefruit size'

    • 2:32
    That should be interesting. But some of the games that he did from my youth are Flash Gordon, Frontier, Medusa, obviously the Kiss that we're talking about, Skateball, which I own. I think I see an original Star Trek, Supersonic. The sounds in this game are very similar to some of the sounds and supersonic uh did i miss anything dave i think that's pretty much all the older games uh viking skateboard frontier you got those i think i hit mystic nope i didn't hit those but he's also done a lot of the big stern games like ac dc batman i mean he's got quite the pedigree he's been around for a long time how old a guy is he is he a contemporary of ours or a little older he's gonna be older because you gotta figure he's probably in his 20s or so maybe 30 tops so you think he's probably in the 70s and now he's probably in the 70s gotta be well we're gonna find out when we see him can you talk a little bit about uh gameplay on this gameplay yeah fun game you basically want to punch the ball the skill shot is to get the middle lane at the top you have five slots to get into you want to go in the middle one that lights a line it also opens up your gate on the right side so you don't lose the ball out the right i think you got to go back one step sure isn't the object of this game to spell kiss multiple times yeah you want to keep spelling kiss multiple times uh and then that's how you get your your 40 000 super bonus your 80 000 colossal bonus that's that does a holdover you also want to keep getting the abcd down on the right the stand-ups because that'll do it do that two times we'll get your extra ball the first time get you two times bonus and if you want to at least try to get down you know abc and lose the ball that abc or get the three out of four they'll still be there for the next the next ball so there's a carryover a carryover the abcd carries over here's the thing that i noticed right away with this game. Up top, you have five lanes. Dave talked about the middle one. The other four, from left to right, obviously spell KISS, K-I-S-S. But you also have stationary targets around the playfield, starting from left up to the top and then over to the right, again to spell KISS, K-I-S-S. So that's two opportunities to spell KISS. Now there's a grid in the middle of the game there is a red kiss a white kiss a yellow kiss and a green kiss and there are 12 arrows one on the left side of that cube one on the bottom and one to the right here's what i don't understand what lights the arrows obviously you can spell a whole line by going through that upper switch. But how does it get from color to color? I'm kind of, I guess I don't understand how you fill in the whole grid work to get 40,000 or 80,000 bonus points.
    5:49
    Well, to tell you the truth, to all the excitement, I kind of forgot myself how that happens. No, come on! That's the whole game! I'm going to say I didn't really even care. I just keep spelling KISS over and over again and this just happens. But I think it progressively starts out with the red until you fill it, then it goes down to the white, then you fill it, and it goes down like that. I'm pretty sure. So there's no switching between? No, because otherwise you never fill it up. So what does the arrow mean?
    6:17
    It just says, hey, you're working on this one now. Oh, come on. And then I think when you're going to score the bonus, it kind of says we're going to score this lane, this lane, this lane. I don't know, George. It's a good question.
    6:31
    Okay, okay. Maybe this one's... I've owned this game forever, but I never really paid attention. We didn't talk about that. How long have you owned the game, and where did it come out of? Is there any kind of backstory? Yes, there is. So this is one of the first games I ever bought back in the early 90s. It was in the Want Advertiser, and it was out of Revere, this guy's house. He got it from... Revere. Yeah. I'm pretty sure this game came out of either a Boston Garden or one of those arcades in Boston way back in the day. And he wanted $1,100 for this, mostly working.
    7:09
    It had a little tilt issue, which all it was was the capacitor was shorter than the tilt bob. So I cut that and it was good to go. So you paid up a long time ago. I did. I paid up. What do you think, do you think the list price of this game was in accordance to other games we talked about around $1,600, $1,800 back in the day?
    7:28
    When this came out? Yeah, when it was brand new from the distributor. Yeah, probably $1,700, something like that. Okay, so that's still strong money, obviously, for a used game, but they made, what, $17,000 in these? So it was a pretty... And you've got to figure, when I bought it in the 90s, KISS was still very relevant as a rock and roll band, so that why he cashing in on that too They still well I think they having their farewell tour for the 19th time but whatever you know Gene doing the money grab as he always does That why the two S in in, in kiss are money signs. And also Gene Simmons is two S's are money, dollar signs. Yeah. We know what he's about. Everybody's seen the TV show. Not a big fan of Gene these days, but you know, I can't like other, another podcast or I can't do Gene Simmons, nor will I. how is this game viewed from the collector community and from the player community you don't you know everybody talks about it but doesn't really talk about it well you know you never really see this it shows you know i don't really see this game it shows at all you don't really see this for making 17 000 of these you don't see these out and about too often it's amazing well we talked about it in one of our last episodes that uh they had one up at uh fun spot in laconia new hampshire as a rare whitewood wasn't it well right it was completely burned out and i'm looking at this game you know the clear-coated play field from bill davis just looks outstanding i mean it just it just shines it's uh i if you're a kiss fan i can understand why you would want this. It's got all the nice bumpers on it. But here's my question. We're going to go to the spinners with the jean face on it. How does one activate the spinner on this game? And if you tell me you don't know. I know that one, George. Oh, oh, pick me. I got it. I got it this time. I did. Okay. The middle lane, that skill shot middle lane where it says light a line when lit. You want to get that with the white thing lit. Get it in there and light your spinners. And the biggest thing in this game to go for is those lit spinners, especially when you juice them like I do, They'll spin forever, and you rack up a ton of points for the 1,000-point spinner shot. He's got some pretty nice-looking plastic sets. Oh, the plastic sets. Oh, yes. Very nice. And I'm not talking about Gene and what's-his-poss, on the right there. Paul Stanley. I say Motley Crue girls, eat your heart out, because the girls in here, they're girls, girls, girls. They're not wearing much.
    10:00
    Folks, I'm looking for a flaw, and there isn't one on this game. So whoever's getting it is going to get a really, really nice game. Anything else we need to know about this game? We're going to play.
    10:12
    Okay, I'm going to do the mea culpa right up front. I haven't played this game. First of all, you've got to help me.
    10:21
    I played this game when I first got into the hobby up at J.R.'s house for the life of me. Oh, now I remembered his last name. John Reuter's house. guess who i played this game with think long and hard i'll give you a clue give me a clue our neighbor no did you really i i don't know if i've ever told this no that's funny i was new to a hobby and I knew of Bowen and I don't know if he had, you know, won a championship or I don't remember his legacy, but he was a known entity. And I told him that I was, you know, interested in playing, you know, all the ballet games that John had, which he had quite a few. and I had never played KISO. We stepped up and played KISO. I don't have to tell you the outcome. You can already determine that prior to me even talking about it. But that's the first time I ever met him and he was very gracious and put up with my nonsense. I mean, you know, a tournament player versus a rook.
    11:37
    It was fun. It wasn't as fun the second time I met him, which was at... Oh, help me. fantastic no uh the person who used to live sausage man mike oh yes whatever modern game we were playing i'm like oh i never played this game and he remembered who i was and i walked away after the first ball i don't even think i got to the end of his first ball hour in an hour i was waiting for like 10 or 15 minutes i just walked away i said bow and i go just continue to play i'm i'm never going to match this it's not worth me watching you play for 45 minutes. Hence why I made my Classic League several years ago. Well, I mean, you know, hey, you put Fireball Classic in there and, you know, you'd be in quick order. I don't know about this game, so unless there's something else that we need to talk about on this game... Yeah, I got something. So, Bally back in this time frame, they had an edict. The edict was the girls on the back class in the classics, they had to be grapefruit size. And so they did not disappoint, George. They are grapefruit size. Who did the artwork on this game? This would be Kevin O'Connor. Oh, that's right. We talked about that. Actually, we can ask him about that edict. We see him live at the seminar.
    12:50
    I had another question I was going to ask. In fact, I'm actually going to even bring a grapefruit with me and show it. Say, what do you think, Kevin?
    13:01
    I had another question I was going to ask, and now I can't remember it. Maybe I'll think of it as we go along. We should probably play a game unless you have another story. I think that's about it. The pop-up caps all have the four members that are on each cap. You can buy those, though, right? You can buy those from Steve.
    13:21
    Anything else on here? I mean, the apron is perfect. Yeah. I mean, whoever owned this game took nice care of it. And if this was in an arcade, it didn't see a long period there, which is weird. I don't even remember this game I'll be honest with you I don't really remember playing this game back in the day I played a lot of this back in the day fun and games had this game and I played a lot of this um I'd like playing this game I did really well I just keep getting abcd down and get special and uh hit the spinners and I did well on this one well I think we should probably uh oh I know what I wanted to ask you yeah we talked about the sounds being like supersonic now I read and I don't know if this is correct or not. Are there two songs in this game? And if they are, what songs are they? And will they be recognizable to the audience? Yes, if you're a KISS fan, you will know these songs. So the songs are... I want a rock and roll all night.
    14:31
    And then when the game ends, it's... Shout it, shout it, shout it out loud. okay well that makes sense okay now this another tidbit in this game they really wanted to push for this game to be a talker and have some kind of music in it to for for the kiss they wanted to have this be like their cutting edge game but the technology was not just not there gene wanted it and they wanted to really have this their breakthrough game with this one here for the high-end technology, but it just was too early. And, you know, so games like Xenon and other ones like that, 8-Ball Deluxe, they're the ones that got the technology. This one was just too early. Right, but that's mostly talking. I mean, how long did it take before you really got, quote-unquote, music in a game? Yeah, well, yeah. It was a while. But, you know, look at Flash Gordon. Flash Gordon, when you hit the spinner on that game, it sounds like an electric guitar being played. Right, but I'm saying there's no quote-unquote music clips like today's modern game. I guess Gene got the do when they did the Stern version of the game I only played that once Yeah it hacky though it hacky though it hacky right but i only played it once at the uh new hampshire pinball co i don know if that the name like gene gene says if it's not pinball it doesn't have balls or something like that it's just like give me a break give me a break gene are you are you surprised no no hackarama right Well, I think we've probably talked enough about the game. Why don't we play a game? We're not going to play three. We're going to play a game. Dave is going to attempt to fill out the grid. I'm going to pay close attention and do play-by-play. I think I know enough about the game that I can get us through it. Please interject accordingly, Dave, if I don't hit it direct. All right. And I did a practice game ahead of this, and it was no fireball classic marathoner. I lost the ball pretty quick. So I haven't played this in a while. I just set it up because I'm getting ready for sale coming up soon. I want to make sure it's all good to go, dialed in. And I haven't had this up in several years, and it's still playing beautifully. Well, somebody's going to have a happy Thanksgiving because the game's going to get delivered in a couple days. So why don't you tune things up? Are there any sounds on this game that I might be able to recycle for later shows?
    17:09
    Yeah, I'll make a little sound package for you. And point out when... And have a really great time. Oh, I talked over it. You did, George. I talked over it. We'll do it again, George. We'll do it. Sorry. That's all right. Here we go. Okay. All right, one more time. Now, you didn't really answer the question. so is this game revered by oh this guy gate too oh i didn't know that um i mean do people really like this game is it one of the solid player games or it's okay it's okay it's a b plus i guess you know uh people so it's no fathom no eight ball no but no it's a solid it looks like a fun game it's fun game it's kind of like on power supersonic away supersonic a lot of people don't really care for that game. I like it. This game is a sister game to Super Sonic. It's got the same five lanes up top. It's got the drop targets there. It feels a little similar.
    18:09
    I don't know. I like this game a little better than Super Sonic, but they're both decent B-plussers.
    18:15
    So, here's the Party Every Night tier. There you go. How about that, George? I'm a little underwhelmed. Underwhelmed? Oh, I got the middle. Oh, Dave got the middle. Okay, so that filled in the red kiss with the arrow to the right. Now we're on the white. But why is that left arrow instead of the right arrow of that lane? Or that kiss? That's weird. Well, the white one is.
    18:49
    And now the right arrow. Oh, you know what? These mean that you completed them. This means you're going for it. So the yellow is you're going for yellow. You've completed and completed. And the red one on the right. But what are the four on the bottom? I think that's maybe scoring your bonus at the end, maybe. I don't know. I really want to hit that spinner. So you're halfway there. He's got the red kiss and the white kiss. Oh, he has a spinner shot I wanted. And he's got the spinner.
    19:14
    Oh, that's got a good spin. Oh, yeah. It's juiced up nice. And Dave is two targets away from getting the multiplier. He needs the D as in Dave. Well, I got the multiplier. Oh, so that's the extra ball? I just need the extra ball shot. Oh, so you need the D for an extra ball. Yep. D for Dr. Dave. Let's go. Oh.
    19:37
    How about D for... D for D. Go on. Oh, so you only played one person. I thought you said play one game. Oh, I thought we were going to play. Oh, we can still... I can do a redo. Okay, do a redo. Okay, here we go. Even though you did... You're going to beat me anyway. You're going to fill in the grid. I'm... Now, does the grid stay lit, or do you have to light the grid every time? And if you don't know, just say I don't know. Okay. I forget. You know, it's amazing that people even listen to us.
    20:09
    We hear something, you guys got to work on your accuracy on what you're talking about. It's like, no, no we don't. You're not tuning into this. No, we don't. You're not tuning into this podcast if you're looking for accuracy.
    20:20
    We, uh... We're having fun. Yeah. our audience is loyal let's just say that and Dave just filled in the red kiss so yeah the right arrow is lit okay Dave is one letter he needs the A and he didn't get anything okay $65,000 I don't know if that's good or bad Not too good Okay let's see if I can get the Free game is $320 Oh come on So
    21:14
    Okay, so I need the K and Kiss. There we go. That's what I wanted. The spinner. The spinner's nice. Still don't have the K. And I just got, so I just got Red Kiss.
    21:38
    Out she goes. Glad you beat me on ball one. 64 to 78. Oh, so it did hold. Yes. Okay, so the grid holds.
    21:51
    So Dave is working on the white kiss, which is the second kiss. And Dave just filled in the white kiss, and now he's working on yellow. He needs ISS.
    22:06
    International Space Station. Right. and he's working on the 2x. He needs the C and D. So this isn't a bad game. No, it's a fun game. It's pretty... It's kind of basic, but it's fun. It's pretty basic. I mean... Okay, so I'm working on... Sort of social. Well, we make it... Sad and social. We make it social.
    22:38
    back to my old ways so 107 to 95 ball three not too good no we're done better well there we go a little bump there again we're the only people i know that actually do this so dave filled in three out of the four so we still don't know why the arrows on the bottom of those columns are the... Oh, I know. They're scored during once you get the 40,000, I think. That's when they come into play, when you hold over. Okay. All positive. Let's see if I can... You've got to fill that card.
    23:21
    If I level the game properly, you'll get a better time. Oh, I got it. Let's go to the right. Oh, I just filled it in. What did I do? You did. You filled the card. Nice. Now you've got to fill it again.
    23:31
    Right, but what... So, we're going to stop. So I got 40 But none of those bottom arrows So do you think if I light the top one it light one No I think when the bonus is going to score the 40 I think it going to do something with those
    23:46
    Okay. Just say you didn't. I don't know. I'm not sure. I'm guesstimating. All right, no, I didn't do that.
    23:56
    All right, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, George. We have two high scores. Okay, I actually beat you. You did beat me.
    24:04
    I'm the king of the mountain. Let's play one more game just for... All right. All right, for all the Kiss marbles. I want to see if we can get to the bottom arrows. Oh, for the Knights in Satan's Service, let's go here. The what? Knights in Satan's Service, George Kiss. That's back in the day they said these guys were satanic, and so they called them the Knights in Satan's Service. It's a rumor. Have you ever seen these guys live?
    24:56
    I think I did. Well, you'd remember, wouldn't you? I never have. Back in that time frame, there was some alcohol and substances, George, that you never really know. So, it's kind of a blur sometimes.
    25:10
    You know, George. I do get it. You know how it goes. It's the 70s. Yeah. And the 80s. Yeah. Here we are today.
    25:24
    I am... I'm actually dumbfounded that people actually listen to us. Okay, Dave got it down the center. Lane, so he filled in the red piss. He's working on the white piss. Let's see if he can fill out the grid.
    25:40
    It's behaving better already. That's all right. Oh, you had to get... So how did... By getting the middle thing. Oh, that opens the gate too. It does. Okay, nice save, Dave. Okay, so Dave's... I don't know if he's got any thresholds. Probably not. But it doesn't matter. I'm guessing if you get a couple hundred thousand, you've done pretty well. Yes.
    26:06
    Okay, so he's got two of the kisses, the red and the white. He's working on yellow. So can he get it? No. So I just fold in the K. He needs an I and an S, and he throws. Out she goes.
    26:19
    So, Dave, at the end of ball one is at... Yeah, this reminds me of Super Sonic with that... Yeah. You ever Super Sonic? I do. Not set up.
    26:34
    But I do. Okay. Into the S. And Drain-O-Rama. For a whopping 3,000 points. For me, this game is a great game. But if it's the only game you had, it's good in the lineup. You know, it's good for a variety. We tend to say that a lot. Yeah. I mean, I am going to miss the game, but I can't keep them all. So, no, this is, I mean, this is a money game. And if you're not, if it's not, you know, a grail game, I get it. I mean, like you said, you can't have them all. And you've got a warehouse. And I just did the same exact damn thing and lost the ball. Oh, boy. I need a drive. Wow. 147 to 5,000 points right now. Yeah, they're not surprised. So, Dave is going for the green. The last kiss, number four. He's going to have to spell it. He's got a K.
    27:33
    Oh, so now the two... Okay, now I'm really confused. The two bottom arrows are lit. Oh, maybe because... Oh, because, you know, the green. Because now I get the whole grid down. That's what it's for.
    27:46
    I just need one more. One other. I'm going to get the S over this way. Come on. Yeah, almost. There it is. Oh, there you go. Oh, okay, so they all... They all lit. That doesn't make any sense to me, but okay.
    28:05
    It's more of a guide. So Dave's got 40,000 points. He doesn't have... I need to multiply. He hasn't gotten A, B, C, D. I need the A.
    28:18
    Okay, so Dave's kicking me. Oh, I'm not going to get the A. Okay, folks, I'm going to have to have like, I'm going to have to have a spectacular ball.
    28:33
    228 to 5,000 points. Great. Rub it in. Come on. You got the A. There we go. That's good. So that gets me two. Okay, now we're getting it. Come on. We got to spell the grid.
    28:56
    Okay, we're going. We're going. They should re-theme this game as The Three Stooges, because it sounds like Curly.
    29:09
    Yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck. Oh, no, no, no, no. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Better. Alright, 100,000. That's alright. Match.
    29:20
    One, two, three. Alright, I shouted it out loud there, George. Good game. Yeah. Okay. We're done. Okay.
    29:32
    And, yeah, you can see Paul Stanley with Mr. Starry. You can see his package, which is great. His package is front and center, George. Just like on the Rolling Stones. You get to see Mick's package, too.
    29:52
    What is wrong with you? You know what? And I like a dope and sitting here looking at it. Forget about the package. Just look at the plastics in the game instead. Don't look at the back glass.
    30:07
    Over and out. You're going to ask Kevin about that when we meet him? I might. Hey, Kevin. I'll have my wife ask him instead.
    30:15
    I'm not even going to say it. Shut it off. Turn it off. Turn it off!
    30:56
    You need my love, baby, oh so bad You're not the only one I've ever had And if I say I'm gonna set you free Don't you know you'll be in misery They call me Dr. Love I'm calling Dr. Love I've got the cure you're thinking of Dr. Love Bye.