Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of the flipside podcast. I'm your host retro Ralph. This is episode number 39. 39. You were almost at 40, which is crazy in the podcast is now officially like a year and I'm two months old, so we're like old now, right? We're like podcast vets. But anyways, we're going to dive into some interesting topics today. Before we do, though, I got to address the elephant in the room. You're probably looking at me and you're like, something's weird. Dude looks weird. Well, I'm not proud of it, but I don't even want to look at you right now. I'm actually I'm too shy. I can't look at you right now because I know you're looking at me from here down and you're like, something's wrong. That's right. I'm an idiot. I went and did the thing again and I dyed my beard. Like who does that? And now I stayed off Zoom all day on calls because I'm embarrassed by it now. And my wife's like, what did you do? You look fine as gray. So I screwed myself up and now it looks blue in certain lights. It's messed up. So all right. All right. But hold on to that thought for a second because before we fully roll into the episode, I just want to give you a quick word from our sponsor, Flip N Out Pinball. Are you looking for a new pinball machine, a used pinball machine, or to trade in your old pinball machine for something new? Look no further than Flip N Out Pinball. They can handle all your pinball needs, they ship anywhere in the United States, and they will give you the best experience in the business. Check out the link to Flip N Out Pinball in the video description for more information. Now, back to the video. I'm embarrassed by it. Anyways, if you're looking for pinball machines, new or used, go check out Zach, Zach, Nicole, Greg, and Ken over at Flip N Out Pinball. They'll hook you up. Alright, so. Alright, if you didn't go to Expo, I don't know, it was like 50,000 years ago now, there's this thing that, I'll just, I'll give you a little sample, but we're gonna go into the main topic. I'm gonna give you this sample so you kinda know what's talking about. I'm gonna get you up to speed. And then at the end you'll be able to see the rest of what made all this, where this beard dying phenomenon came from. Todd Tuckney told him that he would get more views if he was just for men blacking that beard. What do you think? Should he do it? No chance! He said honestly my views would go up tenfold if I dye it. I would not do that! No, no, no. When are we gonna color his beard? Okay, so that's just a sample. So that was basically Pinball Expo 80 million years ago. I don't remember when it was. But basically Todd Tucky and I were sitting at an interior and he's like, we were talking about YouTube. We were kind of just joking around. And he's like, look, man, he was, he was joking. Todd's funny guy. He's like, look, man, the reason why your views are down is because you look old. He's like, you look old now and you're going to have to do something about it. No one wants to go see this old man. So I took it to heart. I was like, I guess we should dye my, what can I do? And he's like, we're going to dye your beard. So we did that. But if you've never seen the video, I'm going to run it at the end because we have other stuff to talk about. But in this, in this particular podcast episode, I wanted to talk about something. Want to keep it pretty brief today. Something that I think about a lot. You know, obviously, uh, I've been in and around pinball for a little while, but growing up pinball, wasn't what I really focused my time on. I focused it on, I grew up with like street fighter, you know, that kind of thing in the So, the arcade in the 90s would have been fighting games and things like that. But then obviously I took a path down arcade collecting and I did restorations and all that stuff. But, you know, pinball, I was thinking about it, I was like, you know, has pinball really changed that much? And have some of these companies sort of, you know, almost, they're afraid to do innovative things now because of maybe the way the community could react to it. And it made me think about something from Expo that year I think that that was filmed. It could have been that year or the year after. Turner Pinball shows up with Ninja Eclipse. Now this wasn't the first time he had showed it off, I don't think. I think it had been, it actually might have been. You know what, I think it actually was. He might have showed it like maybe in prototype form, but he came to Pinball Expo with a cabinet, full cabinet, and a little sign, and that was it. And I went and talked to him, but the thing is, as I'm walking up to the booth, I'm seeing this thing that looks like a pinball machine, and I'm like, oh man, that almost looks like a virtual pinball machine, because the cabinet was condensed. He wanted to reduce the weight, so he was doing some innovative things. He had like this interesting new cover that the lights were integrated into the cover, and when you put the cover down, it would go back on, but the cover was really light. It was really easy to maintenance your games because the side In幾 fiber jiyang, At 해야 Chaney, at Chdisplaystylei JioShuex, Chee-chee jungjhoang, I'm a fan of the pinball machine. I was a fan of the pinball machine when I walked up to it because the cabinet was so slim and different shape. And he's like, oh man, so many people have said that. And you know, what's interesting to me about that is, yes, it did not look nearly the size and shape of a regular cabinet, but it had some innovation in there and it was purposeful, right? His innovation was because he wanted the cabinet to be lighter. He wanted it to not have a coin door because he's like, well, we don't need that anymore. We can use like a some sort of card reader system. But the thing is the feedback was so strong from the community. He actually went back and put that game into a standard size cabinet, put a coin door on it, and he actually took out some of the innovation he put in. Now that product from Turner and his subsequent product with Merlin's Arcade has a lot of innovation in it. Just the way he does his PCBs on the bottom and all that stuff is mainly to make it more reliable. So he didn't take all the innovation out, but it was interesting to me because it made me think about that particular moment and said, do you think sometimes that pinball companies don't want to take, don't want to deviate too far from what's normal, like what we view a standard cabinet and the things that should be in it because they think it's too risky and the community could go against it or not adopt it? So then it kind of made me think what other companies are out there that maybe haven't been able to gain as much mid mainstream appeal. And I was watching my buddy Jamie Burchill of the JBS show. Shout out Jamie. I was watching his podcast and he had the P3 Multimorphic people on. Now what's interesting is before I was covering pinball, you know, on my YouTube channel and on this channel you're watching right now, I didn't really do much pinball content, but when I did do it, it was either virtual Handgun misinformation by the Night vigil, narrative Writing by Donald Gassey, Labour provincial space,718 Subtitle exact spor trees not Speaker Paul Ret Ruterez expert lançajast suspicion at The 뉴�.ierung Internationalemst Doncs 05.2 fresher 0027 I don't have owned them anymore. I don't have any of them in my house at this point, except for like that multicade on there, which is the polycade. But anyways, so. So I was thinking about it and then it made me do some research like how well adopted is P3, you know, after Jamie's interview. Jamie jokingly said in the interview that he's like, I wish Ralph would get one. I think he'd really like it. And I kind of feel like I would like it. I have played it before, but it was very brief and I played that the spiritual successor to Spooky's Total Nuclear Annihilation and I can't think of the name of that game right now. That game was pretty fun. The only thing I had a hard time with and I was trying to get over it is it is weird like I feel like when you play certain games you get used to the feel of them. I've gotten so used to the feel of Stern flippers and responsiveness that sometimes it's hard for me to, I don't know, accept other things. That's kind of what I'm talking about right now as far as the community goes, right? Like, have we shunned certain things or pushed it to the corner of the community because overall there isn't, we haven't, it hasn't gained acceptance. And I kind of think P3, although I'm sure, I'm sure Jerry has been fairly successful with the product, you know, it's not something you see on location typically and it doesn't have the footprint of like some other manufacturers, right? You're not seeing them on location all the time. You might see them at shows or that's usually where you would see them at. The I don't want it to like radically change, but it does feel like there we could be doing more with a pinball machine. And I think it could make it even that much more interesting, but it seems like there's this unwillingness to take these risks. And I don't know if it's because if your Jersey Jack or Stern, you know, the two biggest, the two biggest ones outside of spooky. Do they look at it and go, man, there are things that just didn't work like Pinball 2000, although Pinball 2000 is probably a bad. That's probably a bad example because the monitor, the monitor integration, that kind of stuff, kind of LCDs became standard, although there was like an element of that where you were shooting at things that didn't really exist. It was almost like early on augmented reality kind of stuff by using the, I can't remember what it's called, it's like the pepper ghost effect or something like that, where the thing appears to be there, but it's really not. So I think maybe that's what it is. They don't want to take that step. Because they're afraid and I think the stakes are a lot higher, right games aren't selling the same way they used to so it's like well we bought we should probably be less risky maybe we keep it more traditional and if you look at like most of the games that have came out recently. There's really not a lot of risk taking when it comes to doing things differently it's kind of the same sort of different there's several different layouts and designs and you know they kind of manipulate those designs they use a lot of the same components I mean heck one thing I was thinking about. L быв Ball Jackpoints Now if you on location playing somewhere or you at a friend house and the flipper flips up and it doesn seem like it going all the way back more likely than not that return spring has broken So you'd look, open up the coin door and look underneath, you're probably going to see the spring dangling. I can't believe that that spring even exists. Like we haven't figured out another way to return a flipper to its starting location. I just feel like there's two reasons why I think it would be cool if we could figure that out. One, because it'd be less maintenance, right? You're not relying on this little spring that probably breaks quite often. And I think it would just create a modern mechanism that would be easier for someone at home to service. Because if you look at what Stern's doing, right? Stern has created a Star Wars machine that they had out before. They've tweaked it. They added a better monitor to it. They added a larger LCD. I don't know if it's better, but it's larger. And then they added a coin door, they added Insider Connected, they added a way to enter pinballs into that machine they sell at Costco without pulling the glass off. Like, so, I gotta think that at the core, Stern's got—all these companies have to think, how do we bring people in that may not be okay with the, well, that's just pinball. Because that's what I say, it's just pinball. Like, you're supposed to—you need to learn how to take the glass off. You need to learn how to do all this stuff. But I do think there are people, and I have some friends like this, that are not technically inclined. They don't want to do any of that stuff. And, I don't know, you could argue, I guess, that your distributor might be able to do that for you. But are you going to really want to call your distributor after every single thing? This is killing me, this beard. I hate it. I hate it so much. But anyways, so you know, are you going to call them every time? Maybe, I guess. I don't know. But I think if you're trying to look at adoption and pinball, you do need to consider It took over 15 years. Thank you. Like if you made it a field replaceable unit, like, like, let's say I'll give you an example, like, and I'm not saying I want this. I'm just saying, I'll give you an example of like what I'm thinking. If your flippers, if your flipper is done and it needs a new re and it needs a rebuild, like, could it possibly be a modular component, like something that you just, you press a button, it releases the mechanism and you don't, you don't repair any of it. Although you could, if you're on location, right? Like make it so that it's a modular fix. But I get it. There's flaws in that I'm going to go back to the logic because if it's a modular component, it's probably going to cost more, but it's going to be easier for the person to fix it on location. I mean, I mean, not on location, sorry, at home, but maybe that added cost of making this mechanism will be unacceptable to like the location buyer. So maybe for the location buyer, they buy location specific games, which are made exactly the same. Now the breakdown in this logic of making a system that is easier to work on at home versus on location, Transcript by David David Van Es, Knapp Arcade.com Whether you like Jersey Jack games or not, you cannot deny that their light rails are very cool. And you can do it when they and I know people get frustrated because in the track mode it does the rainbow thing. I don't even know why that bothers anybody. It doesn't bother me. It's in a track mode. Who cares? But they can do things that are cool like the balls coming down the left hand side and and like it's doing a cool lighting effect. So their lighting is much more sophisticated than Stern's. Now Stern has sort of followed suit, but they don't put it on every game. For more Un Flintunnate Twilight אבלWEYENẹT'sdog.org religKG Dec捕捕ez cose No no no no no don't don't don't They have had a much better sound system and much better lighting for a really long time. So Stern is way behind in my opinion when it comes to the sophistication of their lighting system. But could they do more? I hope with Spike 3 we see some kind of lighting system we've never even seen before. If you look at Barrels of Fun they just put that lighting system in Dune which is very cool! So, like, it's that kind of stuff. Like, if you're not going to give us innovation with mechanisms, then do cooler stuff with the lighting. Do cooler choreography between the lighting and the sound. Do that kind of stuff. Because you gotta bring something new. So I was looking at, you know, the high definition displays. Obviously you got that on Spike 2. I think Batman 66 was the first one to have a, like, a full color HD display. It's a good game by the way and I don't know Jamie gets all freaked out about what is it in that game? I don't know the game really well. I don't have a gadget. I don't have a gadget. Oh Jamie loses his absolute mind. Sorry Jamie. You do that. You're like I need a gadget. I need a god damn. All right So anyway, so you got that, you know, some companies are starting to and I don't view this as a major innovation But they're starting to think oh, we'll ship it with anti glare glass. I I put anti glare glass on all my games so when you think aboutициdırk Sz The winner of the Winner is Insider Connected. I know that for a short period of time, J.J.P. was doing Scorebit. But J.J.P. has no online system like Insider Connected. They do have, you know, online capabilities to do updates, but that's it. So they don't have anything. I think, to me, personally, InsiderConnected is a big game changer. I love it. I know there are people that— There are some people in the hobby that are opposed to InsiderConnected. I think that's dwindling at this point though. I think when it first came out, it seemed like you were scanning it and there wasn't a whole lot to do. But now there's achievements, you got trinkets now on D&D, you got the ability to level up your character in certain games like Venom and Dungeons & Dragons. And I'm sure if they're making Pokemon, they could go totally apeshit with Insider Connected with Pokemon, right? I mean, you could make it so that maybe if you have the InsiderConnected app I've captured, I don't, by the way, I don't know, I'm not claiming to know anything about Pokemon. I just, very little, but I'm just, here, just, I'm gonna be wrong on this, but just, just hear me out. Like, if there was the ability to, you collected a Pokemon or a character or something, it'd be cool with Insider Connected to, like, be able to trade with a buddy. Like, imagine that, and then if he trades with you and has one you don't when you play the game, like, you have something you didn't have before. Like, that would be really cool. So I'm waiting for Stern to push the envelope of InsiderConnected. I think they're starting to. You know, Dwight and Brian Eddy definitely see the value in like the level up stuff and stuff like that. But I think you're going to see more in Insider Connected. But that came out in 2021. So you figure it's been out for what? A little over four years. I'd expect a little bit more at this point, right? Like even even something as simple as although I don't know this, this would be an innovative thing. Give us a home leaderboard, you know, but the theme of this is like, come on, guys, push the limits of it a little bit. You know, we already talked about the I think this is a really good way to get bored of a game because you could maybe progress through it a lot faster. Because, you know, you play a game typically, you get through like, let's say I'm playing King Kong or Evil Dead, whatever game you want to pick. I'm not, I don't have to, I still have to do that mode again. It's, it's a progression thing and it doesn't save your progress. So, you know, typically that means unless you're a really, really good player, you'll probably never complete every mode and get to the final wizard mode. But with something like a save progress system, you'd, you'd, you'd have a better chance. So anyways, whether or not I think that's a good idea for all games, you know, I don't know. It might be, I don't know more or more, or maybe that's something they do.ニ conseguir 발�ںayım andare,니헌 r Dynamiteacional I think we've already started that. But then in 2012, you had, you know, you had Multimorphic come with this modular system. And I really do feel like I think the LCD, that dynamic LCD that has all the tracking stuff, turned people off. So I don't know what that means really. Like, why is it that people don't care for Multimorphic? Is it they haven't bought into this idea that a pinball machine could be a platform? Because it seems really innovative. Like I think about, and I look at some of the stuff they've done. I was really re-exploring this idea of Multimorphic because of Jamie's podcast. I'm like, would I buy into this idea? The thing is you're obviously limited now to what games are available, but I want to say there's quite a few modules that they have for it. So I don't see these up for sale very often, but I know the, is it the Buffalo Pinball guys? I think it's the Buffalo Pinball guys who stream Multimorphic or they have a relationship with Multimorphic. I don't know, man. Also, this made me think about the Flip N Out Pinball guys also did Ken and Greg. They did a podcast where they were asking people what kind of features would they want to see in pinball as it matures. And they had a lot of good ideas. And I think some of these things that Multimorphic, they do with the LCD, there's things on there that they want to see. googlereens at wn.com plus dj.com or nicht in about mall.apps.use bathitters at stk.sk End of link There was, I was looking at my notes here. There was the rocking ship on Pirates of the Caribbean. I think that is really cool. And it's unfortunate that Jersey Jack has not rerun that. I know it probably really hard from a licensing standpoint to rerun that at this point but damn I love whenever I see that game I like that thing is so cool Um I don know like it very cool that like think about what going on You got a ship that rocking and you have too many flippers There's a lot going on there that you have to try to control. I like that idea. Another innovation that was for the past 20 years was the selfie camera and the smartphone integration thing from dialed in. The motorized building in Godzilla, right? You have the the Drake building in Godzilla.НАЯ bicy, We got the magnet, the targets, a spinner, like that thing's pretty cool. I would call that a pinball innovation. I think a lot of people really like that. Then you have, I mean, really, I was like trying to really like reach at straws here. Like maybe I'm grasping at Straws here, but maybe I'm missing some stuff. The only other thing I was thinking like the Dungeons and Dragons dragon is really cool. I mean, really, we all made a big deal about that because we had never seen a Stern animatronic that large in size In a game in a long time, like something like that, that took up that much, that much space. Now there's other notables in that game, but I don't think they, I would call them major innovations, but you know, you have the dungeon crawl and you have the gelatinous cube. I mean, the gelatinous cube is kind of cool, but again, these are the kinds of things that we're getting. Now, if you want to look at other companies, you look at what barrels of fun did with the, the sandworm. Now there's been some reports that that sandworm has had some technical issues, but I think they're starting to work those things out. So that's So, I think that's a cool innovation. Right? That thing is really cool. It friggin' eats the ball and you can ride. I mean, it's simulating you riding on it and it dumps you back. It dumps it back onto the wire form. So, I think that's really cool. The thumper thing they had was kind of cool in that game too. Like, sometimes a mech doesn't necessarily need to be over the top, but if you can blend it with audio and video assets to make it more interesting, like, something that I think Stern does often is like, I'll give you, I'll give you an example. John Wick, the gun crate. When the gun crate falls, you know, the one in the premium in the LE, you hear like a crate closing sound. So like when you do that and you like make the mechanism larger than it is, that's pretty cool. You know, there's other notables, but I don't view these, these are newer ones, like I don't really think of the spider magnet as a new innovation because in pinball we've been using magnets all the time. I'm a fan of the game, and if Zach, if Zach Sharpe listens to this, I swear, I don't h8t this spider. You made me feel so uncomfortable in that room at Stern when you're like, I mean, I know you're joking, but I was like, oh my gosh, because everyone was in there, dude. You called me out in front of everyone. I was like, oh, Keith. I like, oh, Keith. Zach is just kidding. Oh, Zach, you crack me up. I love the spider, Keith. I lovie. But it was too late because you, you, yeah, you threw me under the bus, Zach. You threw me under the bus. Anyways, you know, you got, King Kong is kinda animatronic. He doesn't do a lot though. Like, he doesn't do a lot. I don't know, is that like, I mean if you look at Jurassic Park, you got the, you know, the T-Rex, so there's things like that. Now, now talking about things we've never seen before, this got totally shit on and I'm kinda surprised. I think it's called, I'm trying to get my notes straight, I think it's called finesse flippers. This was a feature that Turner put in to Merlin's Arcade, so it was basically a means to Att szczegól Dz survived perché tem bolariel olarak ada Rails keksioola spedimentary. So right nowảng spedimentř yanål oksajajak lagi. SzASSie kalau hariний kimi kimi Reynolds nuitร nei kaging tossed dan ber classical ganj itu sebagai-bišak to talentedzi zasailem yang belakready䀚nhâni pe gehenyën. Ket Sabbath discipline Vhhekśânyêteshâten SLđou-yña ioşekdogšâisión farmer I'm so entrenched in this community that the get better message is what I had to adopt because there's no, like some of these things we're talking about just don't exist. Like it's just get better or learn how to fix your machine. That's just part of the hobby. And I get it. Those, and I get it. If it never changes, it never changes. But I truly believe if it never changes and the answer is always just get better, learn how to fix it. We're not going to change any of these things to make it more easier to service at home or for the newbie coming in. And I mean like someone who never thought about buying a pinball machine. Like you would want them as a manufacturer to have the best experience possible. So I do think there's a lot of room to improve what we currently have that would bring in new customers. And proof of that is if I'm going to believe what they said, and I have no reason not to. Sturn said they did really well with the Jurassic Park Home, thelast run they did at Costco, but they also made it so you can put those balls in without taking the glass off. I don't know what other things they've changed. I've never looked under the playfield. So I don't know if it's easier to service. It probably is somewhat easier to service, but like, and don't don't, don't take this as to me, there's there's multiple ways to play. I get so frustrated when someone is like, it's a rich man's hobby. No, it's not go and play on location. Now I get there's some flaws to that logic because if you live in a pinball desert, you're not going to have anywhere to play. So you're like, Ralph, shut up. I don't have pinball around. I have no choice but to buy them or buy them used or whatever. So if you're in a desert, that's the exception. But if you're around any normal metropolitan, not normal, sorry, sorry, didn't mean that. But if you're in an area that is any kind of metropolitan area, you're probably going to have multiple pinball locations. So you don't have to buy the machines. But what I'm saying is if you want new people to come in, not everyone is going to be able to Crime2 Esposito uh it's Ar Simon andhn and the I put the Elton John, like, piano playing sculpture thing kind of in there, but I don't know if that's really all that innovative. I think you look at Stranger Things. I think the screen they did in Stranger Things is cool. Now that leads me to something that they were talking about on the Flip N Out Pinball Podcast. Now hear me out. I am not saying that I want this to happen, but if someone did this, I would sure as shit want to try it. Like, what would hold people back from implementing some augmented reality into pinball? That could be kind of cool. That was mentioned on the podcast and I was like, like, do you start making every machine with augmented reality? I don't know if that's the case, but could you try it? Like, could you try pushing the limits and doing something like that? The other thing I thought of is the hologram topper and the UV reactive armor, that kind of stuff, like that's kind of cool on Avatar. Stranger Things, First I don't remember that. And honestly, I wasn't really, after the, um, I spent some time trying to play, uh, what's it called? Nick Neitzel's Tony Hawk, but I did not play Frozen or any of the other games. So they're saying they've already mixed in some augmented reality in the homebrew scene. So, I don't know. Like, why not try different things? You know what I mean? Like, it'd just be cool to me to do that kind of stuff. So I don't know what the reason is. Is it partly the community just wants things to stay traditional and they just refuse to accept this new innovative stuff? I don't know. But I think I do feel like there's a portion of the community that would be open to it changing a little bit. I do get, though, that people don't want it to change so much that it starts to lose the beauty of it. Right. The things we love is the tactile feedback that, you know, and I'm never, never suggesting we get rid of the silver I'm not a fan of pinball, but what could you do? You only have limited space. What could you do with technology to make that even better? For both repairing it, maintaining it, and then just gameplay. What things could you do with technology to make gameplay more interesting? Because I do think the LCD brings some new life to it, but let's be honest, you're probably not looking up at it much. I notice when I'm playing with friends, I'm looking at the LCD because then I go, Knapp a This is 발� PINBALL PINBALL PINBALL PINBALL Andrew Nanota ada Onyx bajajThere A k A b a a I'm encouraged that like if this next game is Star Wars and it's the original trilogy, what are they gonna do? Like are they gonna bring the heat when it comes to if it's Spike 3? Are they gonna show us? Is this gonna be like they're like, hey guys, we're gonna drop this game on you and we cannot wait for you to see the lighting and the sound upgrades we've done. I mean, that's what George was saying. George was pushing that pretty hard. I mean, he was definitely leaning in. So if he's leaning in, does that mean that there's How do we get to the bottom of this? Well, I think the first thing we need to do is to figure out how to make sure that we are not just playing around with the old way of doing things. I think that's what you need to do. You need to be playing around with the old way of doing things. You need to be playing around with the old way of doing things. I think that's how you play this. I think how you play this is you trump Jersey Jack now. Jersey Jack's system has been around for a while. If you've been developing Spike 3, you know what they have. Make it better. Like, make it better. That's what we do in technology in our job. 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I really appreciate you guys tuning in today, but I also hope that um That in the comments you really light it up like light it up I want to know like what things do you want to see in a pinball machine or what things do you think? that That these manufacturers could bring That would stop you in your tracks and go damn that is cool I need to play that because I think you could do that with technology. After Burke, give us something we haven't seen. Oh crap, I forgot to show you the Todd Ducky thing. Alright, alright, sorry, sorry, I was editing the show prematurely. Alright, here it is. Here is the Todd Ducky scene that caused me to do this nonsense that I hate. Alright, here it is. Todd Ducky told him that he would get more views if he was just for being black in that beard. Hold on guys, I gotta skip it forward a little bit. Nunchucks! He said autism. Right. Sorry, sorry, sorry, I'm messing up. Here it is. I feel like I'm getting a tattoo or something. This stuff's permanent. Now we put it in the tray, we mix it, and it changes the colors into pure dark black. You did get black, right? You see, the problem with Ralph and his channel is that he's becoming old looking. Old looking. For him to appeal to the younger ladies and players of today, they want to see a guy that does not have grey in and out and throughout. I don't think it's what's really impacting my viewership. You don't? What do you think? Come on. Clean the brush handle and repeat. You are a pro at this, right? Like you promised me that this is something you used to do a lot of. I did because I was, now we have to wait five minutes. Five minutes later. It's not permanent, right? So if it wasn't great, would they sell it? I guess not. So Todd, he has convinced me that this seems like a good idea and he does appear to know what he's doing. Skin allergy warning, that's why you have to wash your feet. I don't have a skin reaction. Imagine going out. We're not gonna follow you into the bathroom, I don't know if that would be wise. So we'll let you go in and wash. Okay, I can, I got this. He's never had a man treatment before, has he? He's never been manscaped. No, no, no, no, Todd, manscaped is something completely different. Shall we start with the chin? That's close to enough, Todd. I didn't get to the edible part where it says it's poisonous and could kill instantly. Just imagine this little grate. The Grays going baby. It's filling in pretty good. You're literally painting your hair. Have you ever applied it to another man? Never. This is the first. I gotta admit, Todd, you're very thorough because I feel like it's, it's, it feels thorough. I don't know how this sh** works. Is it impressive? He being glow in the dark. It's looking good. Holy sh**! It's wicked dark! What? Okay, we're almost done. I don't want to tickle. And now, five minutes later, let's rejoin Retro Ralph's face. Oh my god! What? I look like Santa Claus from the Santa Claus movie. He's doing wild. Date of the Season, Black Water Out giveaway 6 complementary features in this video from SpingaBemplars.net It's not coming off! I haven't looked like this in forever. You look good! I don't know about that. You haven't looked like that since you had great YouTube numbers. Frank. Frank, look what Todd did to me. Cause you're left of the low, man. I love Frank. That was so funny. He's like, shit, I left it alone, man. I am forever indebted to Todd. This was amazing. And now you better get some more lady viewers. Yeah, and a pinball expo first. All right, this is a little Easter egg. Billy Mitchell? Whatever. That was so fun, that pinball expo, man. Oh my gosh, thanks to Springer, Springer, thanks to Springer Films and Mason Rubin. I'm a Mason Conrad that was awesome I forgot that was in there dude that was a blast that was so much fun and honestly I was freaking out because it was so dark and I hate it I don't even know why I did it again I'm so embarrassed I'm so embarrassed why I do this stuff to myself I always put myself in these dumb situations oh anyways thank you so much guys you're the best that is not the right button that's the right button I have a couple voicemails Subtitles by the Amara.org community Myth of Terror Island is going to be pretty cool from the guys over at the electric playground. So you can want to check that out. And yeah, man, I'm just going to sit here. I'm going to put some pinball mama lips. I'm not sponsored by pinball like my boy Jamie over there. Man, it is so minty. It's so good in Arizona. It's so dry. You didn't put this chapstick on everything. Everything so dry. Humidity levels are low here in the desert. Okay. Guys, that's it for now. Thank you so much. Put in the comments. I want to know what innovations do we need in pinball? Come on guys. Come on. Bring the innovation. We want it. We want it. We need it. And we will see you. Oh The next one take care everybody Like and subscribe for more like this video!