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Ekdom in de Morgen op Radio Veronica

Dutch Pinball Museum·video·3m 23s·analyzed·Feb 4, 2025
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TL;DR

Dutch Pinball Museum director discusses pinball history and music licensing on Dutch radio.

Summary

Gerard van der Sanden, director of the Dutch Pinball Museum in Rotterdam, appears on a Dutch radio show to discuss the museum's collection and its connection to music licensing in pinball games. He explains the museum's concept as a 'museum of use' that traces the origins and history of pinball machines back to 1777, and shares anecdotes about licensed music in classic pinball games, including the Twilight Zone machine's use of Golden Earring's music.

Key Claims

  • Pinball's origins date back to 1777, making it over 200 years old

    medium confidence · Gerard van der Sanden claims pinball goes back further than the 1940s, specifically to 1777. This is likely referring to early table games or bagatelle, though the claim conflates modern pinball with earlier mechanical games.

  • Twilight Zone (1993) featured Golden Earring's music but the makers never paid the rights initially

    high confidence · Gerard van der Sanden states that Twilight Zone creators wanted Golden Earring's 'Radar Love' in the game but did not initially pay for the rights, and that Joyce Kooymans (Golden Earring member) received a box of machines as compensation.

  • The museum's collection includes machines themed around Dolly Parton, Aerosmith, No Limits, Anita Dott, Elvis Presley, Foo Fighters, The Beatles, Elton John, and The Who

    high confidence · Gerard van der Sanden lists multiple music-themed pinball machines in the museum collection during the radio interview.

  • Dutch Pinball Museum operates as a 'museum of use' where visitors can play machines rather than just view them

    high confidence · Gerard van der Sanden explicitly describes the museum concept: 'We are looking for the origin of the music, where it comes from, where it goes to. And you can play a lot of our music on a large part of our collection.'

Notable Quotes

  • “I think the whole collection is something I think is fantastic. But if I have to name one, it's Tommy from The Who, from the Pinball Wizard.”

    Gerard van der Sanden @ not provided — Reveals Gerard's personal favorite in the museum collection and highlights the iconic Pinball Wizard connection.

  • “It is already 1777. So! It is 205 years old.”

    Gerard van der Sanden @ not provided — Claims the historical origin point of pinball, extending its history back two centuries.

  • “A museum of use. We are looking for the origin of the music, where it comes from, where it goes to. And you can play a lot of our music on a large part of our collection.”

    Gerard van der Sanden @ not provided — Articulates the core mission and philosophy of the Dutch Pinball Museum as an interactive, playable collection rather than a passive exhibit.

  • “Twilight Zone is one of the best you ever started with. It an existing flippercast from 1993. The makers of it really wanted that golden earring's little ring. And did that work? Yes, it did work, but they never paid the rights.”

    [name withheld pending review] @ not provided — Reveals licensing dispute details and compensation story for Twilight Zone's Golden Earring music inclusion.

Entities

Gerard van der SandenpersonDutch Pinball MuseumorganizationTwilight ZonegameGolden EarringorganizationJoyce KooymanspersonThe WhoorganizationPinball WizardgameEkdom in de MorgeneventRadio Veronicaorganization

Signals

  • ?

    venue_signal: Dutch Pinball Museum in Rotterdam operates as an interactive 'museum of use' where visitors can play machines, not just view them. Focuses on music-themed pinball machines and their licensing history.

    high · Gerard van der Sanden describes the museum concept and notes that visitors 'can play a lot of our music on a large part of our collection.'

  • ?

    licensing_signal: Twilight Zone (1993) featured Golden Earring's music without initial rights payment; dispute was resolved with compensatory machines given to Joyce Kooymans.

    high · Gerard explicitly states: 'The makers of it really wanted that golden earring's little ring. And did that work? Yes, it did work, but they never paid the rights... And Joyce Kooymans has also received a box of these as a reward.'

  • ?

    historical_signal: Gerard van der Sanden claims pinball's origins extend back to 1777, predating the commonly accepted 1940s origin point. This appears to reference earlier bagatelle and mechanical table games.

    medium · Gerard states: 'Yes, you would think that it started in the 40's, but in my opinion it goes even further back then. Yes, it is already 1777. So! It is 205 years old.'

  • ?

    collector_signal: The Dutch Pinball Museum has curated a collection centered on music-themed machines, including iconic titles tied to famous artists and songs.

    high · Gerard lists multiple machines: Dolly Parton, Aerosmith, Elvis Presley, Foo Fighters, The Beatles, Elton John, and The Who, all part of the museum collection.

  • ?

    content_signal: Dutch Pinball Museum received radio coverage on a major Dutch broadcaster (Radio Veronica), indicating growing media interest in pinball museums and collections.

Transcript

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0:00
That was Adele. Rondje van de Zand. Rolling in the deep and now for Golden Earring. Stepping into the Twilight Zone.
0:10
It is so far. It is Tuesday 4th February. It has been 9 o'clock. That means a brand new round of the business. In other words, one company is responsible for the playlist for an hour. And today, a very special Dutch Pinball Museum in Rotterdam. Gerard van der Zanden knows everything about it. Gerard, good morning. Good morning, Gerard. Look, a pinball museum. That's fantastic.
0:36
Is that a hobby, Gerard? I'm completely out of the game. How did that start? At a young age, I'm 50, I became a fan of the pinball machine from the flipper box. You collect it for a long time and you're 50 and you think, where do I get it? And then you go to the museum. And you say in Rotterdam there is a pinball museum. What do you see there? What is there? Yes, it is pinball. Pinball is maybe older than you think. How old do you think pinball is? Yes, you would think that it started in the 40's, but in my opinion it goes even further back then. Yes, it is already 1777. So! It is 205 years old. I also like to call our museum a museum of use. A museum of use. We are looking for the origin of the music, where it comes from, where it goes to. And you can play a lot of our music on a large part of our collection. So you can also play a lot of our music on a large part of our collection. Oh, that's crazy. There are a lot of cabinets. I don't know if I know this, but I've been to your place once, Gierert. So I know exactly what's in there. And the nice thing is if I look in the playlist almost every artist you worked with is a cast Yes Twilight Zone is one of the best you ever started with It an existing flippercast from 1993 The makers of it really wanted that golden earring's little ring. And did that work? Yes, it did work, but they never paid the rights. And they found out about it. And Joyce Kooymans has also received a box of these as a reward. And she still has it with her. But those are beautiful stories, you can find them in our museum. We try to tell a lot of stories and that's some background information. You also have a Dolly Parton box, an Aerosmith box. Of course, there must also be a Tour Unlimited one, because in the video clip of No Limits there is also a box of flippers. Anita Dott, Elvis Presley, Foo Fighters, whatever. I have a Beatles and an Elton John, so that's nice, right? Yes, it's a nice line. And what is your absolute favorite? What are you most proud of? Yes, I think the whole thing is something. If I ask you what your favorite song is, you'll do that song with it. The whole collection is something I think is fantastic. But if I have to name one, it's Tommy from The Who, from the Pinball Wizard. Yes, exactly. That can't be otherwise. It's all coming together. Pinball Wizard, he says enough. Sure plays a mean pinball. And he's of course on your list, so I'm going to play him for you. This one from the Pinball Wizard. I wish you a lot of fun, Gerard. Thank you, man. And go to the Dutch Pinball Museum in Rotterdam. There you'll find it. And you can come everywhere.
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high · Gerard van der Sanden appeared on the Ekdom in de Morgen radio show on Radio Veronica for an extended interview about the museum.

  • ?

    restoration_signal: The museum maintains a collection of playable machines spanning multiple decades and themes, suggesting active maintenance and restoration efforts.

    medium · Gerard describes the museum as a 'museum of use' where 'you can play a lot of our music on a large part of our collection,' implying functional, maintained machines.

  • 3:14
    Thank you, Gerard. Have a nice day. Bye.