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SDTM Episode 59: The Best of the Best

Straight Down the Middle·video·1h 7m·analyzed·May 5, 2018
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TL;DR

SDTM hosts rank top-5 favorite machines by era, emphasizing personal preference over objective quality.

Summary

Zach and Greg from Straight Down the Middle host a top-five favorite games episode, breaking down their personal favorites (not 'best') from classic/EM, System 11, Data East, Gottlieb, and contemporary Stern pinball eras. They discuss gameplay mechanics, artwork, themes, and personal connections to machines, emphasizing subjective enjoyment over objective rankings. The conversation highlights how their appreciation for older machines evolved over time and showcases the diversity of design approaches across different manufacturing eras.

Key Claims

  • Heavy Metal Meltdown is one of the best periods of pinball ever, alongside other System 11 games

    medium confidence · Greg states about System 11 category: 'I kind of agree with that' regarding it being 'one of the best periods of pinball ever'

  • High Speed was the first pinball game that actually told a story

    medium confidence · Zach: 'It's like the first pin that actually tells a story. You run the red light, and then you're running from the police'

  • Last Action Hero is jam-packed with features that rival modern Stern pinball games

    medium confidence · Greg: 'The scoops. The mint has modes... couldn't get a more horrible thing... over the mate, man' and comparison to 'modern day Stern'

  • Lethal Weapon 3 is a good shooter that compares favorably to Star Wars in terms of gameplay complexity

    medium confidence · Greg: 'I think this guy might shoot a little better than that' and 'if not more' going on than Star Wars

  • Data East games have a feeling that 'this bastard is gonna fall apart on me' due to build quality concerns

    medium confidence · Zach: 'Data East does have like kind of a different feel... this son of a is gonna fall apart on me feel because they do'

  • Jurassic Park has the best theme ever among Data East games

    low confidence · Zach: 'Jurassic Park is the best in my opinion data East game because it's the best theme ever'

  • Jersey Jack should remake Guns N' Roses pinball

    low confidence · Zach expresses desire for Jersey Jack to remake Guns N' Roses, noting current version pricing/coloring issues

  • Whirlwind is the best System 11 pinball machine

    low confidence · Greg and Zach agree: 'Whirlwind. If you find a diamond plate... that's the problem' and 'Whirlwind is the best'

Notable Quotes

  • “When I started pinball I thought I hate these. When I got into pinball I was like, well, nobody likes the EMs. I was wrong.”

    Greg Bone@ 3:13 — Shows evolving appreciation for classic machines over time; reflects community trend of reconsidering EM-era designs

  • “Whirlwind. The storm is coming... After you watch this video, look at the cabinet art on Whirlwind... I adore the cabin art with that text, the blowing world.”

    Zach Minney@ 19:12 — Demonstrates aesthetic appreciation for System 11 design; advocates for underrated title

  • “High Speed tells a story. You run the red light, and then you're running from the police, and that's when your multiball goes, the sirens going off.”

    Zach Minney@ 13:07 — Highlights narrative design as pioneering feature in High Speed; precursor to modern story-driven pinball

  • “I love Rudy. Rudy's a good dude... You can try to hit it into his mouth. That's what's so fun.”

    Greg Bone@ 18:08 — Shows emotional connection to interactive toy design; contrasts with Zach's creepy/uncomfortable assessment

  • “Data East does have like kind of a different feel. This son of a is gonna fall apart on me feel because they do.”

    Zach Minney@ 24:07 — Articulates community perception of Data East build quality and reliability concerns

  • “Last Action Hero... couldn't get a more horrible thing... shooting those scoops or shooting in between. It's fantastic.”

    Greg Bone@ 21:18 — Emphasizes jam-packed feature design and magnet innovation as underappreciated aspects

Entities

Zach MinneypersonGreg BonepersonStraight Down the MiddlemediaStern PinballcompanyData EastcompanyJersey Jack PinballcompanyWilliamscompanyGottliebcompany

Signals

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Interactive toy design (Rudy in Funhouse) drives personal preference divergence; hosts demonstrate different emotional responses to same mechanical feature

    medium · Greg loves Rudy's interactivity, Zach finds it creepy; exemplifies subjective player preference over objective design merit

  • ?

    community_signal: Demolition Man (Gottlieb) described as having limited competition in category; newly-discovered machines receiving community enthusiasm on Facebook

    medium · Greg: 'you don't have a lot of competition in that category' and 'everybody on Facebook... just picked up one and clean'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Guns N' Roses pinball criticized for dated color scheme (red/yellow) that doesn't match perceived premium pricing; potential candidate for modern remake

    medium · Zach: 'I just don't think that it should be fetching the price that it commands' and 'I can't get around it' regarding coloring

  • ?

    design_innovation: Guns N' Roses Data East widebody praised for innovative double punch mechanism and ramp design despite other criticisms

    medium · Greg: 'I like the double punch. Yeah. That's cool and innovative. That's one of the reasons why that I put it on with the snake to the list'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: High Speed identified as pioneering narrative storytelling in pinball design; police chase multiball represents integration of theme with mechanical gameplay

    high · Zach: 'It's like the first pin that actually tells a story. You run the red light, and then you're running from the police, and that's when your multiball goes'

Topics

Top-five favorite pinball games by manufacturing eraprimaryEvolution of personal appreciation for classic/EM machines over timeprimaryData East game design quality vs. build reliability concernsprimarySystem 11 pinball as a golden era of designprimarySubjective preference vs. objective game quality rankingsecondaryTheme licensing and narrative storytelling in pinballsecondaryInteractive toy design and player engagement mechanicssecondaryPotential remakes and revivals of classic licensed gamesmentioned

Sentiment

positive(0.82)— Hosts express genuine enthusiasm and affection for games across all eras; some criticism of build quality (Data East) and aesthetics (High Speed, Guns N' Roses coloring), but overall tone is celebratory of pinball design diversity and personal discovery. Nostalgia and emotional connection drive rankings rather than cynicism.

Transcript

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[Music] you had a flame away the slingshot gyro an a/c outlet all day [Music] Griego buddy old pal yes guess what we get to do today something a little different top five oh you already know what we're doing oh I know this you're prepared on purp you get your sheep you know this what are we doing tell the people top five our fate we do top tens we don't do top five but this is this is the top five okay of our favorite games from each manufacturer oh cool I like that now the caveat here is that we have some rules yeah some ground rules yes number one Greg and I have not we're not prolific in pinball enough to break down like Williams system three versus system we don't lose em play them all yeah or even a lot we don't in a in category so we've got our oldest would be a classics category yes that would include early solid states and M's yes all right so that's a mini manufacturer that's right classics only then we're moving up to we've got a system 11 category our favorite top 5 system Elevens and then we're gonna go up to data East some Sega's your more contemporary Stern's your Bally Williams that comes yes now these are what's cool about this is I'm gonna give my top 5 and you're gonna give your top but these are our favorites they're not the best games yeah they're merely our favorites out of each category this is gonna be fun I hope so I'm stoked were you able to make a list I made Sega first oh we're not starting with Sega first well we're gonna start with are the classics yes the things that when I started pinball I thought I hate these when I got real in the pinball so nobody likes the M's I was wrong nobody likes really solid-state there's no rules I was wrong Yeah right I was the first one to say I'm wrong yeah that's where we're gonna start so let's start at number 5 for your favorite classic older solid-state /vm in ball machine yeah people might kill me on this one but I actually I thoroughly enjoy the game quite a bit hmm number 5 classic pin dolly dolly parton play the helen-alice die I like it I think it's a fun game I know what get in those music I like it I actually agree with you yeah I like dolly tittle [ __ ] on that knows it again bad like I would own a dolly the saucer up top good it's a good design I have a spinner Jen thing if dolly has a spinner oh that's gonna feel stupid I don't know if she doesn't know I don't know either I like their artwork the music notes are fun the drop down like it's all fun it's I liked it too I don't understand they hate I mean there's only so much you can Jim without a dolly there would be no tiene very true very true tiene the prequel yeah Polly no more you tiene leva so yes you know my number 5 favorite classic pinball machine is Harlem Globetrotters I could see yes Harlem it's got so much stuff that that I like on a pinball machine and it gets a lot of love yeah it's got the the spinners anything with spinners anything with saucers you guys who draw I liked all of that plus I kind of liked the theme in the artwork I love I like gold I do I do though I'm gonna go Harlem Globetrotters what's your number for classic I like some Six Million Dollar Man okay things though that I play anything you like yeah and then I like okay so you know I've played a whole hell of a lot of PM's and a lot of the classic I like the scenes abort kind of has some yeah until he opens up his bar of soap the laundromat then yeah I was gonna have a ton of games over there but yeah it's kind of gotten out of a lot of the yeah honey he so keep cm's over there on the restaurant nothing restaurant stuff but yeah I gotta go with what I used to plan and yeah it's a fun name I actually like it too it's good a lopsided you know I can't remember that shot where that one shot is when you get it lit or whatever is that I mean your points will just saucer yeah that's fun alright so number saucers kind of its kind of tough my number 4 is also Nia I've got one am in this classics list was it it's actually knockout I'll [ __ ] on that too idiom that I've owned before I was gonna go with Grand Prix cuz it's kind of my favourites kind of what made you open up the enums though was I ran across some guy was getting rid of it for cheap sells like yeah and it worked and I started playing it and what's cool about knockout it has two orbit spinners and I love spinners on the IAM because you get that real get the belt thing to do that but their orbits so where Harlem you got the inner spinners it doesn't feel as good orbit spinners feel the best on an e/m it's kind of like graham proof yeah it's well I Grand Prix but knockouts cool cuz it's got this squirrely my jig in the front or in the middle so when you plunge you try to get it in the middle and that's where your bonuses go up your stream that's that like you're going cuz you watch the iam I watch your stream and I can't remember much about and the fun part is for me was to trying to roll the machine because you can roll over a hundred thousand and then you get like a little LED this thing it says a hundred thousand I'm back over and there was just a fun challenge I love the theme the artwork on it the the boxing so if any of you guys have a Bally knockout I hate to plug away but please get a hold of me if you want to sell it because I would love to buy a good condition Bally not all the way or Grand Prix all right so that was my number four which number three your favorite classic pinball machine stargazer stargazer like stars they're gauge is nice it's beautiful you're not gonna find one in no super rare yeah I've never played one but they look cool yeah they look cool though yeah buy last one the pretty at the yeah I think it's a solid number three I'm gonna go see which I see what I like I love that third flipper to the orbit hmm I love that thing I agree it's nice what's your number - oh we go mean number two number two for me I thought was gonna be a number one but it felt number two it's Paragon everyone's not number two oh nice yeah dual to Paragon worry what I know sorry for my edits haha what I like about Paragon is it is the wide-body yeah that baby is like a Cadillac I love that and then you've got the inline drop targets where you get most your points that yeah and you can go back up and then you've got this little chamber to the bottom left that you can't get out of it's a pop bumper and you're like oh [ __ ] I'm gonna try it it is the weird little game that you three flip flippers with the scissor flip so if you go up yeah drain I say there's there's nothing like it it's a unique layout it's a and you know what still shoots pretty fast and it's brutal yeah that's what I'm saying like it's it's a fun guy at the two saucers up top and you try to roll into so I would have been blown away when that come out with what was out at that hole like it would yeah like you've just been oh my god I ain't the artwork we are what our work is fantastic but there's one artwork in my opinion that's better that I had as my number one classic pinball machine and that's fathom I really love the looks of fathom especially led like I know that they were leather but I think that you can really make fathom look so be you just you just can't wash that and you just can't be dirty with you like but that is honestly one of the most beautiful pins I've ever and like when it comes to I don't blame you when it comes to fathom I love the artwork I think that is the most classic looking classic pinball machine there is that yeah them I love the layout I liked the the theme of it I liked the art of it and it shoots really well too yeah I really like fathom now what was your number one classic vault number one and I don't know why I enjoy this cuz I never hear anybody talk about dolly to Star Trek the solid-state build solves this okay I like that me and you like the same care plastic thing and I like I would like a wouldn't a Star Trek fan of that era that show or anything but like it's just I think it's a it's kind of a pretty pin I think it's a beautiful but it shoots really well not feels like me I mean like I sauce that you know what I'm saying yeah it's not real fast I mean I love hating they might add both versions but it's just got nice shots and still Star Trek it's still Star Trek yeah I would own one yeah you know you can get them for a decent price you can I guess they're always true yeah is boring stuff well I will say I will say about the classics is I've not had a lot of I've not owned a lot of them so this is just based on my limited use of them and I will say that I'm not privy in my mind you guys know me my mind didn't work well with multipliers and codes and bonus multiplier so and that's acing this off of looks and off of gameplay like feel of it yeah because that is what a lot of those are it's like what I said with that Six Million Dollar Man I can't remember that shot like that you hit it just thing just explodes yeah cuz you like this you hit this shutting it this and that Prime's that whole you know ninja magic rate so when I'm playing these kind of games I'm just playing for the fun of hitting around getting good shots but I like that kind of that nudge play like I like that I like that slowness at times it's like oh we've got I think but it's just there's something different about it took me forever to get you over to that feeling and like I said you're right I was wrong there yeah there are a lot of great now this is different I will say don't give me an e/m without a spinner I don't want it I I want nothing to do with it I'm fine with it as long as they got some good Drive targets don't want it don't care I'm fine I'll play walking dead if I wanna play drop thirties let's move up to now we made this its own category because I think it is probably well I can't say that but it's one of the best periods of pinball ever system Elevens I kind of agree with that you know now that's one thing like your EMS that it took a little bit to grow on me with some see from the gate ideal of system 11 good there was a few of them that I found nice and found fun but some of them were just so hideous and terrible that I just it took me a while to really get dome system so we'll talk to system 11 I will say honorable mention for the classics was spirit oh we did include spirit and that's a fun alright system 11 what's your number five favorite system 11 one team Tomcat oh yeah I got 14 minutes a battle it's so fast it's shot at you yeah shoot that you like when you get those beaker and beacons going up top man and they're rotating it's an experience and it's fine that's a sinner thing though when you hit that it fires the ball back at you but not only with that it's just the speed of it in general it's crazy how fast that pen I mean it's meant to be but uh it's very much overlooked hmm I sometimes I think because if it's difficulty oh yeah I think that's why some people don't like a bastard of a pin what's your number five my number five is very similar it's high speed oh we take the side load on 14 we put it up top I only make high speed the reason I love high speed is because it tells a story it's like the first pin that actually tells a story you run the red light and then you're running from the police and that's when your multiball goes the sirens going off they're talking on the CB radios remember fire I love it in honestly like you know the sound wasn't real great on those pins so like I bet that fits very well it actually makes it seem you know better sounding pin and what it really is so I loved high speed I still love it yeah well in that segways I met him before Oh high speed oh you're the most J Annie Potts during the multi bald where you have to hit back up that ramp and it goes unit raising I I played it some and every time I go location I saw people playing the [ __ ] out of it and I just couldn't get past it because it always ring it's ugly I thought it was so ugly it always reminded me like remember those like rollout mats like when you were a kid you'd run your cars on there at the street that's hilarious yeah whatever so what that damn game reminded me either this truth but then what I played it and I start opening it up mm-hmm and I was in a red light yellow like you know you start you learn the game yeah it's fun as hell man like I love that bag glass well I like to but with the mirror the rearview mirror you can see yourself when you're playing yeah oh I like it man like I'm not that's a fun game yeah I like that better than I like get away the DMV version I agree I don't like I like has to be better than get like the super charger is that's a cool toy it's a cool toy but I would still really can't take away my still rather has that was your number four yeah my number four is people are gonna yell at begin this is my favorite it's not the best one it's mousing around I love masonry I think the layout and the ramps are so much fun in the in the mousetrap that you hit it into and the center ramp I love it I love it I've only played it once a haters when I first gotten a pinball I thought it's hideous I hate that theme what the hell is that fat guy doing on me with all of it I hate that but now that I play it and I'm into it I love that game so what's your number three okay taxi everybody loves everybody taxi sauce but you don't even get to play taxi a lot it's approachable yeah it's got good rules taxes I still don't understand the room only put my hands on a few times but I just I every time I play it it's really enjoyable yeah let's go Marilyn Monroe you got Dracula you got it's a neat looking pinball it's like it's really bad yeah thing the thing is Python and that Python art oh is it really I thought it was maybe it is maybe it is I don't know sorry guys um taxi I even like the topper the tell the topper is nice yeah and the taxi driver and then they're all in the distance well very well I think it looked good niche to high-speed taxi in a high-speed are really very good ma'am I like the car that was your number what three all right my number three favorite system 11 is Elvira in the party mom ah I love that's my number two okay yeah so I love L bar yeah that's now rules wise I don't know if it's as nice as actually rules its kind of weakened rules but the theme is there yeah you get this ice cream love the ramps yeah love the boogieman yeah all kinds of little I actually like and this is this is gonna be blasphemy I love the start of the multiball were the different musical like if it had a little bit better I'd maybe like it a little like as much as scared stiff if not more whoo like I enjoy it oh I see you're stiff is not an excuse me I like the super smooth yeah but I like L bar in the party monsters I think it's a kind of overlooked madness you know really I think once they come out with L five or three it's gonna be really cool to have all three of those now oh yeah really would you're gonna see price to go up people are gonna try to collect all three yeah I agree a buyer in the party monster I love like artwork wise the ghosts the cartoon ghosts and the outlines I think are the most beautiful pieces of art on some pin I don't know go back up you have to look at remember you need that back let us remember how great love the banks look translator whatever do yeah I like your the hot dog hey grilling out I like it a lot so I will ruin that so bad though with color bulbs that is one thing where that well I will have complain about some LEDs is I see so many of those color they wear out of color or they try to color match that glass right just pregnant oh so that's Alvira for me number three what was it was that your number - you said yes so will go to my number two my number two favorite system 11 of all time is fun house oh oh the creepy little bastard that you love so much but love Rudy I love Rudy Rudy's a good dude I don't yeah what I like about fun house I love that pant Lawlor layout see I've only played it a few times and I think it's maybe one of those things so many people love it that may be it if I played it a little more then I could get past that creepy ass little head but he's so interactive he feels a lot that's what I don't want feel I don't want him to phone you can try to you can try to hit it into his mouth that's what's so fun you try to hit it into his mouth there's a little hideout Rudy's hideout and stuff I don't want to think about it in mind and then the left plunger where it locks the ball down there and you plunge it back up wise Paulo solo Rudy now I don't like the bag glass them on fun house I think that's ugly I think the whole game horrible scary as [ __ ] no no it's not number one I think we might share this one yeah you're missing one that I'm like what house that's my number one two now that can you believe that's our favorite over fun house people think blaspheming though or over of IRA whirlwind the storm is coming I don't know somebody get over L virus that like whirlwinds got a pretty long solid the rule says solid the awards are solid so far as the Joshua Clay solid the topper is the best in toppers focus it was like the first interactive is the first real top earner be go back now after you watch this video look at the cabinet are on whirlwind in the I adore the cabin or with that text the blowing world won't I like it I need one yeah you had good I've had you've had a couple but they're they're never nice enough yeah to keep all those diamond plate no just some in a whirlwind if you find a diamond plate where went message mean will say because I thought I remember you'd looking for one yeah that's the problem I wanted whirlwind is the best is the best system eleven are our favor system Elevens honorable mention for me would be rollergames chick blood love that love roller game I need to get a roller games too so we're moving up we're getting into your your feel of games data East no we're gonna data East over Gottlieb ok well we're going Gottlieb ok what's your number five God why are we doing this dolly deem DS right miss yes yes not not Oh cuz got it like not way back just the empties golly p.m. DS so why don't we go data East first because data East is not yet to DM DS ok let's go that East okay you did not okay we can say these whatever you want daddy's what's your what's your number five daddy yes we'll get you the Gottlieb [ __ ] Last Action Hero oh my god wait a minute I think that's mine November fun it's not mine oh it's all my list though it's all my list last action heroes cool I love a crane magnet you know if you think about it like the magnets are fantastic isn't it that is a that is a game that I feel is jam-packed over the money yeah you couldn't get a more horrible thing no they all could not fighting with his family invaluable your likelet's it's packed exactly those magnets I was so surprised the first time I played with that with those magnets but like I said the crane moving crime yeah shooting it up into there the scoops the mint has modes yeah and in it gun it's kind of crass apart but it's not but shooting those scoops or shooting in between mm-hmm it's fantastic the kickback yes yes I see there's so much going on in that pin that silver look they didn't honestly rivals like a modern-day Stern or something Wow don't you think boys was noise wise yeah what it has in there absolutely no III think that it's I think it's a good pig I do too for my salad you'll be proud of me where's yours we've never got it that's not right okay we have now turned a page if that's true no okay Lethal Weapon 3 is your number 5 it's my number 5 absolutely I like Lethal Weapon 3 now look at her oh yeah she's great that layout my friend that's a great shooting pin I've come around I love I missed that pin it is good it is fun it's good I struggled with it I did I did but there's just not man for 1,500 bucks Oh rice into it it's phenom I just like it I ran I liked it all too but I did I think that when you compare to with some other data East no it's when it's a little lacking now if you're gonna compare to lighting a lot of people are gonna [ __ ] about this but if you compared it to something like Star Wars batiste I think that's on point with that like I don't think I think this is guys much going on as Star Wars that easy if not more like it's this still feels sort of the same to me honestly mm-hmm like actually this guy might shoot a little better than that I don't know if you got it on your list you'd probably do it cuz I don't know but i but i think i think that some of these other ones on my list have more going on the helmet hair what do you care I like Lethal Weapon 3 I can do I can go with you oh I can go with you alright so let's let me mention number 4 cuz my number four was Last Action Hero okay Jeremy yeah hey what's your number for my number top that East I'm going Guns and Roses little Jean or I like some g9 now it's not I don't think it fantastic pin might be higher on my list but I like the ramps I haven't put a lot of time on there but it's a wide-body daddy wide-body baby just weird love it it's good on one side the rows on one side both hundred yeah and I oh I like the double punch yeah that's cool and innovative that's one of the reasons why that I put it on with the snake to the list but the thing I don't like about it is well I will be the first to admit that that East does have like kind of a different feel kind of this son of a [ __ ] is gonna fall apart on me feel because they do and I think GNR with being a wide-body kind of adds to that this bastards gonna fall apart okay but I still like the shots and I think its innovative it's an expensive bastard yes now it is bad but the ramps are freaking phenomenal on it yeah that's a good bit it is it's not like so for me no no what was that for you that's my number four what's number three for you what was that on yours I had number three or number five numbers oh you already said your last thing okay I'm number tables that's mine too yeah Tales from the Crypt it I love tales from the Curia I want one it's creepiest I like that little little loop ramp he goes up yeah in comes benchmark forms are nice it's the grave marker or the gravestone that you hit and it lowers I like that too it's behind the flow okay yes yes oh yes and the ramps aren't easy to hit no it's not have some power and that's the thing it's old Liana is it is actually it's kind of a tough pin daddy a lot of modes yeah blow molds multi balls fun color team Dion tails's if you guys have Tales from the Crypt oh you see God go beyond that well because it's such an atheist looking busy at least it needs something but they were true to the comic aspect of that like it that art I think everything this is it I think today Rouge I think that it could have been ruined if it was better no offence that the debt at East artists nuts at an artist he's horrible he just saw really look at you look at Jurassic Park and guarantees oh there are some works not great great no but it's not the same just dress apart being tall for that weird comic book art yeah but it was a [ __ ] like that and then there's also like you know you you you can't like it's got one of the best shooters that there is because you've got everything's got a gun shadows got a gun yeah for everything it's got a gun but you got a doorknob it's hard to just get out there right yeah but it's cool it's looking really cool and so that you know I'd like to see a little bit more than anything so I mean I love it bit so or both of our number three was Tales from the Crypt you know my number two is Guns and Roses okay cuz I love me some G&R now if Jersey jacked me a gene are you understand what I'll do I would love huh now that's a music pin Oh as I remain [ __ ] that's a band I do think that it does need to be remade I don't I don't think that that I don't think that that pin it's got I think that that's a cool pan like we said it with the shots the ramps the Kuban everything it's fantastic but the coloured raine I don't like it there other the red and with red and yellow and it's just like I just don't think that it should be fetching the price that a command that's why I've never pulled no I can't I can't get around it but Oh what's your number to Jurassic oh my gosh that's your baby that's number two yeah I like it even over - it's that Jurassic Park is your theme dream theme I do but I had to put it as number to see what's number one well no I just I like to shoot number one better okay but dress a park you got a really cool obviously your dinosaur toy you got your Raptor cool mode you get a kickback to the room and The Verge you got no dinosaur it's cool yes it's really cool I like the right orbit - as it as a scoop up there yeah Katrina inner loop shot yes but the ramp uh it's fun I like it I like it a lot it's just I like you so much that's my number one really absolutely Jurassic Park is the best in my opinion data East game because it's got the best theme ever it is the best thing ever obviously it's the best thing you've ever yeah it's the best thing ever it's corny but I went a little bit I went a little bit too I took a better shooter and it was my first pin ever oh that's my first pin ever Oh Jurassic Park was my first yeah what's your what's being at first what's your number-one data East pinball mature what is left Oh Tommy you don't like Tommy Tommy so good people not like Tommy no people people love Tommy was the first pinball machine I ever played that East really but that's not why that it's like in my heart I say it's a fun shooting game I like the music I like the visuals on the DMD okay I like the modes are you should probably taking my fifth spot but yeah that's why I was like when you kept counting down that's why I was thinking maybe we share maybe you left honestly thought you were gonna leave off Jurassic Park okay but I kept waiting for Tommy to pop up and it's just good moat their unique individual modes absolutely you gotta hit the silver bolt like it's fun it's me and the blinders that can yes I like working behind or so yeah well the thing the thing I don't like about Tommy I like the who yeah it's like the opera version I just don't the music is not the same I don't know I just don't really see it doesn't kill it for me it's still it's still like I I enjoy the music of it it's fun let's get out of data use okay let's catch a train we gotta leave jet yeah let's go golly oh so we're getting into Dean these now yes we've got ballet Williams D Indies we've got Gottlieb DMVs we've got one of those beam DS we miss him we've got Sega Sega deemed easy so got Lee but let's I can't believe you went don't leave do you easy okay what's your fifth favorite Gottlieb D&D wait for it guys rescue no maman I just like the helicopter when it comes out I mean you gotta be fair when you know that on Facebook everybody on Facebook NAB he's just picked up one and clean like that he loves it that's what I'm saying it's a fun game and I mean you don't have a lot of competition in that category so yeah it's a fun neat little game you know hovers out on that arm like it's really flying yeah it's fun as hell it's a decent shooter it's got decent shots okay you want to know what my 5th was yeah and in and then a slash and in an a not applicable so I couldn't find five gottlieb DM diesel what's your number four oh my god I'm sorry Mario Andretti Oh God oh the [ __ ] keeps getting Mario Andretti shoots good it's a fun freakin game you get the car whoa what I love about Gottlieb is that every game rule set is so easy to like what is it exploit they use the way I depend oh yeah yeah they give you the [ __ ] gimme third ball multiball the telly but in got leaves effect like I gotta leave defense um I get your t-shirt says I haven't really explored the rules not a lot of these games just like the way they shoot this yeah like their shoes so then I would go Nightmare on Elm Street hold up I gave my fourth alright my fourth favorite got Lee DMD is it's an end and it's a slash chance of Ages I couldn't find for Greg the back to that are on Elm Street now Mary numb streets pretty fun love the theme it's all the Themis terrific name I even kind of like the looks of looks at I like the looks of it I'd be able to shoot it into the furnace who is that's not as from saying the fur Hannah it's nice divert a hand diverter that you all got a Save button yeah the claw save yes the Freddie the spits amount yes drop dribbles out of his mouth instead of stain the targets they have molded plastic soul faces that you have and you know what like I've never played one that's terrific so I don't know if they're all kind of it builds a little weak legit to me whereas I think that it would be all go an amazing shooter if you put some Stern's or some little bits up on there cuz but I've played some decent stargates there was some but I think the flippers have been changed out go we got here about that so my number three was that you're number three yeah my number three is actually not applicable either because I still have on a stove in place I'm going down my number two barbed wire or wire yeah you know played barbed wire yeah I think it's like one of the most hated games ever made really yes absolutely that's such a great game as such a great game I like the way it shoots that's quintessential what do you shoot that bulldozers at the bulldozer I don't know barbed wire I can't remember I've played it a few tygon played it a lot but I like these games here's the thing I don't have a - I have a one cuz I'm not picking it out I'm going to Stargate number one badass ass game that Gottlieb's ever made you know what it can deny it no one will deny it it's actually one of the better games on Jeff what do you do on that game shoot ramps shoot the beer man shoot the pyramid it's cool-looking yeah and then you shoot the I'll [ __ ] flip I've seen some rigs off over to the lab I've seen some really tricked-out stargates circuits it's a pretty game have you honestly take the toys and the sculptures on there and everything it's it's far superior to most games no okay and you know those those ramps there would you own a Stargate you probably yes I don't want to Stargate though that glass creeps me out you know they only got leave that I probably own and it's just for Themis Nightmare on Elm Street yeah cuz I love that theme I love it I keep one like Nightmare on Elm Street I want to own but I think the price is crept up too high for it that's know it yeah it's not it just does not it says they need to read I can't they redo specially may be spooky pinball redo like a badass horror theme yeah like a Friday this Friday just needs to be deeper you just going through the nightmares look at the shining shining pinball machine but your GJ getting these better pants are we going second Sega yeah that's the Sega train Oh 13 just because he likes a lot of balls i like balls sir and Joe Balcer did you see that Segway see this is what people in the pinball world a pinball media know how to transition yeah Joel also did a ball 13i I don't think it's a great game no but the shots are kind of tricky so he's gonna tie nice and the 13 bold multi balls it's a gimmick it is again cuz they all crowd up and they don't drain but damn it guess what it's the only thirteen ball multiball in a pinball machine it is like a pole I even kind of like the looks of it I like the looks I don't hit Tom Hanks yeah but I'm okay with that big ol astronaut and then I don't you senator so that's my number 5 number 5 sega game of all time well sometimes i like to kill bugs Oh Starship Troopers mene mene you differ so much of them I like the only thing that I don't like is they they do it's a repetitive game shooting it's one of the best codes that Sega has it's a good code set really a thing so so yes it's got your plenty of stuff to do it's a little lacking okay like I mean I supply stuff to do by me you're still shooting your but you stir bug count I think it's hideous I think it is god-awful the ugliest yeah I like the movie though oh I like the movie yeah hate then that big ugly ass yeah I don't mind that either yeah I think it's a pretty good shooter come out on a hard time talking about this [ __ ] I really am so he's making me ill number four goal not okay I like Goldeneye oh yeah I like the the Magna save it's got the three ramps which is dude yeah I like James Bond I like three ramps that's I even like the art I really like the art illness I guess I don't know who did it Ferris or somebody somebody did that I liked that gold not before yeah my number four is Godzilla yeah it's a multiball heavy game but it'll layout is fantastic that leaves all my Latour I mean guzzles I like the rants it's got the longest well I guess it's the longest rampant pin the largest it's wimpy but it's one hope he liked both ramps or one it's one oh one piece that comes and Godzilla's over it yeah but I mean the the ramps are smooth I enjoy it I think the look of it is also shooting for taxi and everything like it's it's good shot it looks cool too yeah it's kinds of stuff ii always does those maintenance round things like that which I enjoy I'm I'd love to own a Godzilla yeah with you with you my number three is probably nowhere near your list nor anybody else's cuz it's ranked one of the worst pinball machines of all time and I can't get enough of it I'd love to own one again South Park love South Park you know what South Park is fine I love South Park the toilet love that makini the dies and falls down I agree now the gobble holes on that thing or about that baby yeah in like the top rate but just like it feels like a piece of [ __ ] though yes or no it's a fun shooter don't get me wrong and I enjoy the [ __ ] data but it feels like a piece of [ __ ] feels a little yeah feels like a data you will see it's back to the not the saygus we have it's always plagued yeah it just feels like it feels like a mr. Hankey yeah so number three I was gold night Oh send me your gold man yeah I agree like the disfavored actually the satellite yeah grab on there oh yeah the ring yes it goes into it that's that's innovative and cool as hell don't blow that magnet board though no cuz it's sick you're twister it sucks but no I'm the three ramps it's fantastic there's a lot going on with that pin for the money drop towards you I think it's an overlooked pin so that's the come down I enjoyed it but the rule set while it is varied she's not deep enough no you pretty much get to those but that's a lot that's Sega yeah it's like except for except for number two which is hey watch oh hey watch is pretty beat now I've not owned Baywatch yet some people stay in the darkness you know look you're ready to get into the life stumps tuck stop Hasselhoff and so like but it's it's really deep and I haven't got to exploit it yet but it cuz I haven't owned it you mean Batman Forever is not gonna be on your list just shoot a little slow for me man like I like it is it just does not shoot right but Baywatch is actually it's a very overlooked game you know shooting it up into the the station house or the the lifeguard flipper they live great yes the shark flipper on the line on there flow it does have a lot of flow but it's the modes most its it is one of the few Sega's that is a mode based game so that that's why I like it because it is very Airy light colors blues like blues yes good animations they're quirky but number two for me was Godzilla really mmm Godzilla for me number two bestseller by surprise not about your pick but just the pen in general again what I appreciate about Godzilla it's another one when I was a newbie in noob I hated thank you I thought it was the biggest piece of [ __ ] I thought Lee why would anybody like this game yeah because I was diving into new games to me were bali williams and stern and yeah and so I thought Godzilla what a god-awful piece of [ __ ] I've converted him you have a lot of these Sega's man because of your [ __ ] and boy in my head all the time thanks but you went for what they are today they're fun they're just fun they don't take themselves too seriously Louisville I play Godzilla more than any pin now I play that game 20 times because I loved it yeah the color DMD yeah that class is gorgeous so I don't have to ask what your favorite Sega pen is it's not really hard to thing but do Rezac Park the law school they make my list let me tell you not to talk about this penalty do you have it is Johnny mnemonic adoption I'm surprised you haven't picked that one well I'd like to but you know so tell him about dress park so let me do your broken bagger is that this pin has some it's got some good flow to it if you can hit your right ramp it's got some really good flow to it it's fast you light up those orbits outer orbit or you know they fly but here's why I like it is all the modes are individual no shot they're all individual their mother's shots and it's almost impossible to get it to the wizard mode that's true San Diego yes it is horrendously hard to get that's why I don't like it though because it's a bit well I do because it's in grasp it is on the cusp of your ability to achieve and that's only because you've played it 10 thousand 1000 I think somebody know if you get in there and do it like it's it's right what if they have it on video you know what I'm saying you're going video Jonas you gotta get to I want to bring Steve over I want to play my [ __ ] game baby you're gonna I'm gonna breathe I'm like Steve's dreaming up in the car I'll buy you dinner I wanted you to come play this game because I want to see what you can do with it Steve to me because it's telling about it right yeah because there is no stacking there's no doing nothing and then once you fail at one of those modes you have to start the mode twice you get an angel it wise you able to go back into it if you fail that second time you have to achieve your progress no there's no kept progress throws everything that's what's sore but it's so achievable [ __ ] that game no it's like a sip you like a seal a seal like like trying to get the encore but guess what it's the same sort of thing I don't I do my number one favorite we've already mentioned it my favorite you'll love this bony I got a snagger technician it's got a showcase I'm just beautiful head to it pinball is very reminiscent of me what a beautiful head to it an enlarged head coming at you so bad my favorite second machines Baywatch I'll give you love it is the it is the best one if I was to actually say that there was a best pen and I was taking my objection I just bay watches the s second main Sega's are growing on me now our boy bud up in Indy their routes center pointing different things everybody knows bud yeah very store it's not a bottle in your pocket are you just happy to see me very stores machines he says watch out for these sega machines because he sees those as being kind of the next hot commodity because there's few of them made yeah a lot of people haven't played in their novel so he thinks that that's gonna make a little bit well this is my thing is I don't understand the infatuation with that east because daddy's they do flip a little shitty or Sega's that in between Sega's in between a decent Stern or Valley Williams and a daddy's ever get the white star a lot of its white starving yeah but so are a lot of your Stern's I know that so we found the ring yeah saw me train you know I don't look at it I I just think that what's always kept them down is that there's not a good title really tough mark yeah that was later I mean that's that's basically I mean you got x-files there's some good ones I'm surprised x-files that made it in your list I think I mixed on the coding of it I'm mixed on play it's you know I don't mind a lot lorsque low scoring play one of my least favorite twister nothing you know and I kind of feel that way with independence and its new cause they'll probably buy but it's kind of an ugly pin Grilli good flows phenomenal flow a system 11 I agree with that so we're gonna you agree with me yeah thank you with me we're gonna move up to why don't we do the Bali Williams okay now this one's tough it is tough you want to study a little bit there don't you no good okay Ali Williams what we were gonna do it first poor great he was like I got my top five Bally's and my top five Williams DM DS and I'm like they're the same company they are but it doesn't matter I would separate them we're lumping them so mines do many good games have not separated them it's a top five list you got made choices I did so choice friend some choices in life port so my top five Bali Williams of all-time is Twilight Zone I could see that I think it's loaded I think for for me there's better codes out there on other that's fine but it is for me classic pinball there's the most iconic pinball machine of all time and it always will be to me I don't know what it is the wide bodies the Pat Lowell layout it's just the mystery behind the twilight zone license and theme it's all the different gimmicks it's the mods it's the beauty of the side cabinet it's the ceramic ball it's the gum like you keep going on it's Twilight Zone what's your number five I know I appreciate you putting in a lot of things I like it it's a fun game a I think it rivals a lot of other games almost and it's fun hey I don't mind the missing pops like I think that's cool who gives it why do people care about Mesa pops I don't know I don't know what the hell did pop Snider on what machine is your favorite pops yeah it says no one just like these pops okay why when you go into the the superjet so or that villain pops I actually like the ones that physically move like on Houdini yeah there's the whole thing I agree with you on that no shadows fun you know the shadow and you'll talk about it here what's on your list but it is on my list I enjoy it it's got a lot of little neat thanks to it hi everybody shadow has a dirty sanctum yeah but you get over a dirty sink them if it's fun to play with anybody reclaim their sanctum but just put a sticker on my sanctum Oh decal do not enter but the decal with the big green dot oh you've got a big green dot on you're saying I don't think you might never get old look out for the teachers it is coming no I still issue okay so uh solution number five I do like pepper playfield well you can get it till we get to yours okay breeze oh okay are you number four wait you don't do what's your what's your number four well you've done the inter before my number four is whitewater I fell in love with this machine you guys I fell in love with it I used to hate it as a newbie I thought I don't get it but now I get it the rules on whitewater are so much fun now you do have to they it's a little choppy would to get to Vacation Planner but there's nothing like the looks of it the feel of it the ramps the little sasquatch yeah I love it whitewater the topper yeah I can't say any more about it why waters where it's at I would take whitewater over and this is giving away I'll take whitewater / medieval madness I'll take whitewater over tech from Mars I'll take whitewater over the name another classic there I guess I can see going so you guys love whitewater don't you you ever seen a everybody knows like why why never seen a Rooster's like what with Rome yes no not chrome gonna play some nice whitewater see and I enjoy it I just it's just not I don't know it's one of the great that's all to me fancy fancy what do you got I'm gonna go with medieval madness as your number 44 yeah and I can argue with it and I would put it higher but it's just so repetitive with beaten a castle but it's still the greatest thing in the world beating that danny has whole else are fake controls and [ __ ] or guitar all's gotta shoot patrols now I I think that's probably the best ballet Williams pin ever made like objectively and it's a pin that I don't mind being a little dark lighting wise there Craig I think it very much fits it it's got a nice ambiance to it my hand it's awfully dark it's a little dark but I do I would put it on that one oh absolutely I would put it on what's yours if you not see my ear dissenters my number three is my favorite pop ado game it's not World Cup soccers not totin no it's not it's not theater magic it's circus Voltaire the circus Voltaire get [ __ ] on I don't like it oh you're right now behind it I just don't the shots are awesome shots are awesome on that game the ramp is awesome on they gave the the horseshoe don't ya I love that yes I love this ringmaster I like lcd down in the play fielder I can see it more the bad glass is pretty the circus Voltaire's where it's at and I think it is the prettiest jump pop a big gift so that's where I'm at I'd like to have one again yeah you can get to join the circus but a lot of people don't know there's out the levels of that wizard mode you can get that wizard about twice it's a little different second time third time fourth times really yeah people like those nine number three hmm chant from Mars attack from Mars okay yeah yeah like it's just a fun game like a lot of people I don't know what feels I can never explain what feels it's a field of now it's a great shooter yeah it's it I guess that's what it is make the call-outs or I think some of the best in football and I honestly think that the call-outs and the BMD visuals is what makes it because I actually have a chance because when you destroy the ship yeah I got a little bit of a chance to look up and see my B&B for a minute yeah when all that's going on the DMD animation that the sounds true it's fun and it's kind of unique I think that it's one of the best it's it's nothing special about it but I think that it's one of the best feeling all locks to shoot yeah I do like the ball I don't know why I own one soon I think I'm gonna buy one really am i right I think you should yeah I all on one I think I'm gonna probably it's like to take a step in Le the remake oh I don't I don't blame you I again it's not like the best looking artwork on the play field there's nothing special about base just it's just fun it feels not like I thought whenever I was a newbie again see I like reminiscing this is helping me reminisce as a newbie I thought attacked from Mars and surgeries military with the most beautiful pins ever made there was something about the great beauty sometimes pretty I really like this line as it is it is very our revenge Mars they can keep that [ __ ] yeah I think it's what I needed I don't know alright so that was your number two three three okay one more - for me shadow so okay do you want to elaborate hi you know it's Brian Eddy's best game I you know what my favorite Brian Eddy game with the rule setting honestly yes with the rule set and everything yeah I I can see that now does it does it speak to me like that you would like attack for Mars or like it does speak to me yeah nothing speak no but it is it is better I do think it is his best game I like the rollouts I think it's corny it was Tim Curry yeah love that I love the upper play field I love the wizard mode I would welcome to the final battle yes and you have to hit all the switches I love that it's starting modes is tough it is a little tough tight shot what's your number - Adams family you know Adams gets a little boring but I still enjoy it every time I go to it I love the looks of it I love the light show I love everything it goes on with that pin I still like the shots I like the bookcase I like it turn out like shooting it behind there I like thing coming out you know I don't care much for those pops over there that kind of pisses me off with that little third flip but I enjoy the pin every time I play it and knowing the home setting people talked it gets old and I think it would get a little mouse a so I'm not trying to defend it that way but it's another pin that just feels so good it's just a lot of fun it's classy you know classic shooter I can't arguing you those points I just think it's boring maybe it's cuz I've played it so much yeah I just want to say I think over babys because it can be in such a high price and I'm sad just rather not I just don't know I don't know if it's worth the pressure you know what one of the cool things is this is a free plug for CPR repro Plato's or maybe Merkel I don't know who makes us play field but they make a special edition I think it's maybe 50 bucks more but the Adams family fought on the play field is in green but it's glitter it's glitter green always sharp me it's really really sharp so sorry I just popped in my head how about that's cool number one do we have the same number one yeah I know you Indiana Joe you get a smoother wide-body with a better shots than Indy you can't do it you can't do not Ryan I challenge you to find a better game than its fighting plane ramps your own steel there's half of adventure up top the super jackpot when you hit it there I just love the ball lock oh yeah I like it the idol like I just you know what if you achieved doctor Joe there's something that holds me back from that game what I don't know what about owning it well besides the price there's nothing you showed to hold you back it is the best belly Williams pin in my bag I love it oh I think it's what the best pinball machines ever made it that's in existence still tops my list is a perfect rating I got our rating you're at three point nine eight I think yeah but it is it's your time and I don't regret it no I don't know nothing's gotten old about it like if you see a restored one is gorgeous yeah I love it I love it the color DMD on it codeine is fantastic in this freakin Harrison Ford might our review it's all the great [ __ ] of that the roll overs in the top are fantastic there's just not like it was starting to mode that's a tough job but it's a doable shot what's even funny even back then I was talking about fault I agree so that's balli William yes we both have a neon Joe so we've agreed on a couple of these top ones that way so we're moving up now let's go to Stern since they're sort of the they're sort of next in line I guess we'd go with that all right what's your number five so five spider-man another one that gets old for people but it's got good flow I'm bored just thinking lastik multi balls I know I'm not gonna lie your honor fantastic multi balls modes are just three I mean but a still spider-man it still shoots very well and I think I said the freaking start of all those multi balls you Doc Ock multi Bowl everything you've been it's all from a domestic yeah it is but that smell alters I'm gonna pick it's it's better-looking twin brother Oh Star Trek Oh trakula of Star Trek I love me some Star Trek so 18 modes deep yeah a little dry but very much at least they're hard to get to yes sflow best third flipper shot in pinball love it Star Trek number five number four ac/dc and I would have never thought that before but I'd love that game look uh it's just a fun shooter it's hard points do I think it's the deepest best thing no but I don't fully understand it yet encore is a challenge which I actually like but I like to be able to go do I go for all chords I'll go for points today it gives me well know the risk and reward makes it one of the deepest ever ever yeah yeah yeah which I don't fully understand it yet but it's it's a very good shape very well designed that sounds each individual shot has its own sound or each mode like you didn't enjoy oh I hit the bell you know and the train and the premium yeah it's not true I know I'm starting to think you hit that Bell on the premium baby mmm what's your for my number four people are gonna try to mob me the pitchforks are coming out they're sharpening right now Ghostbusters Oh Ghostbusters not only Ghostbusters wait for it Ghostbusters Pro imma specify Ghostbusters Pro is it's awesome now it's a bastard hey babe I hate it I was playing at my parents last night I want to flip it over it's hurting my feelings so bad that like it's it's unfair Oh bad it's unfair yeah but their artwork the theme yes the play on it the different gimmicks the the backwards flippers I won on it uh but a frustrating loose with my supers the right ramp on that Pro that title multi-pulse are fantastic a sorts facility multiball not sure the call laughs I don't have it on my I should have put it online people loathe it they hate it more than they do Mustang and WWE I feel like a scorned like ex-lover is what it is now you're like I still love it that's pins but it's just like don't want to see you again you won't know number three was what trauma legacy baby love me some traumas yeah Jim shot baby I went Lord of the Rings okay we talking about go back to our review of you another dress so Lord of the Rings number three yeah nuff said Florida we're gonna review that simpler drinks yeah it's gonna be fantastic what's your number three my number two's Lord of the Rings okay yeah Batman 66 oh I still see those games like it you know what Batman 66 kind of feels like though I guess is just maybe because it's like Batman Dark Knight does it's a Gomez it's a little clunky kinda like a Sega it's that nice it's not terrible like a Betty's but it's got a little punk to it like a Sega and the shots are they're not easy but they're yes they are it reminds me of a second I think this is already you love about me 66 you are a Sega fan at heart I like that statement it is it's the truth like and I know my Sega's that's son of a [ __ ] shoot it feels like a Sega it so if you never ever ever I don't care who you are you love Batman 66 do not say that you hate Sega's it's a Sega I think everyone that owns a Batman 66 will say they hate a Sega I know they will Sega's like the chick that yes I can't no you take out with your friend yeah it is yes you don't want to tell my buddy but you but my number two was Lord of the Rings I could Lord of the Rings number two it's one of the great wizard modes I love the theme I love them you know we share the number one we share another number one yeah the Waterworld John Bors masterpiece is just an all-around well how would that can't say all around me why there's no masterpiece no it's not I think I think metallic is fried boards masterpiece this is Lyman's masterpiece this is Lyman F. Sheats Jr. the coders masterpiece this is the greatest pipe in I think maybe Boris master I think it's a lot better yeah I think it's I mean there's a lot going on on Metallica but the walking is just unique and different I love it now Metallica wasn't on either one of ours no it's not at all I can't get it so Walking Dead is number one I yeah it's fantastic it is but I on now I'll have one I'll sell it I'll have one again I'll just keep on buying and selling that thing yeah the pros awesome too Greg I do like the pro but the was growing on me it's the previews all just that damn left ramp just give her that ramp yeah the smoothness of that pro but I'll get Walker bombs of the Bremen voltage voltage turn please Bolton be my baby give me better arm with some time in the have Christopher Franchi do the artwork by yours okay so now what now we're moving to let's do uh these are kind of uh these are fun because we don't have enough yeah well let's you're spooky yes spooky spooky doesn't have five pins yet or maybe does with the with like is and I haven't touched it yet but I'm gonna I'm gonna say Alice Cooper number one okay no Rob Zombie I've got Alice Cooper's number one okay Cooper's everyone once you never lose never number four number four yeah yeah well observe actually Rob Zombie's my twelfth I guarantee you hold the next pins they rods out it's not over for two all right number three team a teen a yeah okay number two America's most honest yeah Alice there else we have no clue yeah I don't know but a look at this fantastic I can attest that shoots better than any other spooky in my opinion Wow I think it does just that for fun that was spooky let's go to let's go George a Jack it's about the only thing we're missing yeah choice Jack what is sure so they've only got four pins yeah okay so we go with those what's your what's your least what's the bottom of the pile number four ah man that's kind of tough for me I hear about how about this I've got a number five actually then I'll explain why later I'll explain why later my number five is wizard loss and you might say what the hell is he talking about Wizard of Oz is his least favorite pen ah are you trying to say Wizard of Oz I wanted to put hobbit below it but I couldn't because at the end of the day Wizard of Oz is only two shots up the middle yeah it feels like that's all you're doing I know there's orbits guys but that's it feels like it's all your doing so that's my number five what's your number four waz this presumes I agree at the same reason Wow what's your new birth well tonight number four is the Hobbit okay yeah I like The Hobbit but it's no dialed in yeah you know they'll like The Hobbit I think the cinematic experience of that is under three Hobbit okay so we're on the same yeah same thing cinematic experience but it's still it's still kind of slow I know now this one was tough for me looks like my number two my number one well let me give my number three okay okay my number three was actually their next game because I know I'm gonna like it better than The Hobbit and was your boss that fair yeah cuz I know why you gotta know what the what the theme is yeah and okay yes and I kinda know that it couldn't go wrong and that's how I knew where you were going but I honestly thought you were gonna put it at number one yeah so number one number one stuff for me - I don't know between dialed and you go pirates for me I ended up going pirates - dialed in one because I don't own pirate [ __ ] I'm so good on it yeah right but dialed in there's just it's it's almost perfection - theme is a perfect well you know I guess I gotta go the same like I okay yeah cuz I really like I love I love pirates I love the shots I love the moments but it's kind of it's a little more multiball heavy which I don't mind I don't want it either but I'm with you but the modes there they're not as distinguishable is what you get with dialed in let's try the motor stuff on it goes through the movies you know what to shoot but there is still that super distinguished tasks are different on there's so much other options on piracy I agree I agree there's so much other but without in it's a very straightforward you know whether you're in volcano or glory oh yes yes your SIM cards and you shoot the theater like you just it's a little bit more of knowing what to expect that's a little more not leaning here but just yeah I get it you see what I'm saying so I think I've gotta go with that too part ii then now i'm the manufacturer we agreed we agreed the top pin walking dead we agreed on parts we can't forget our American pinball oh yeah Houdini is my number one today's my number one why is it my number one why don't we start with number one cuz they'll all I got one pin but it's a day I make a good one and they're coming out with another one yeah hopefully yeah uh October yeah well maybe there's a Venus neutral what if they do come out with Oktoberfest can either said it's gonna be the end of the company yeah they stay a little company you can still be good there if they do it right it can be you know everybody I've talked about if it is Oktoberfest you know what they told me what this is thank like if it's cool it's fun in it you buy right the buyer I agree I think that it would fit in a lot of people's base I think Donald in has has done away with the idea that theme is uh cuz look at me yeah theme I uh made a purchase one can't stay in that thing yeah I'm we'll see it was fiction I agree but yeah you know a lot of these we browse through pretty fast some um we elaborated on the newer ones we've already talked about on this yeah and some of these we want to get a little more in depth too so we didn't want to go we want to talk about them to those are our favorites they are some of yours are just plain stupid yeah but like starship so we want you two guys to submit whether or not you think Greg's got the better picture I got the better pics and let us know what your picks are what are your favorite data East machines what are your maybe enough the best what are your favorite though yeah what machine do you go back I know it's not daddy's Simpson give us your number one from every one of those category Oh that'd be awesome give us that give us what your number don't give us the whole five of every one of these give us this one give us your number maybe we'll compile that and tell people no example give like a percentage or something of what the number ones come in at what's your favorite classics which are you guys know the categories so yeah do that in the meantime support SDTM by buying a t-shirt gonna hold a Greg bone he'll get you a t-shirt out and then what else they need to do watch your boy Chuck work dominate to Travis on that Facebook likes on face but you always are all about that Facebook before we guess it's then does a donation at this point in our career we're not too bad I like when we first started out we're like we're not gonna ask for money at this point it's so much time and money that our time and efforts that we will what's money to have our pockets it is will take dodge exaggerated we're trying to up continue to up our equipment stuff like yet but that only happens and people want us to go to the shows oh my god it bums me out every time somebody says hey you going to the show I'm like I want to we can't visit every show I want to but I'm SDT and funds are low yes and time and stuff so say hi to us at the shows but we do appreciate all the support that you guys do give us thank you very much so thank you so much so until next week I don't know what's coming next week maybe a review maybe a little something something till then this is Greg this is Accra Street in the middle of pinball show you're the best look at these eyebrows though just got them done Furillo they you look like that God we even looked it up remember the guy from you better system like you're looking American Pie come on me what is that guy's name uh I can't remember it'll come to me at some point usually when I'm taking a [ __ ] is that we're all your best thoughts comes to where they all go do they yours like oh it does my best thinking now okay that's my best YouTube viewing time so here we are with a song it's mad whenever I try to start here you are with the ghoul
  • “Jurassic Park is the best in my opinion data East game because it's the best theme ever... it's my first pin ever.”

    Zach Minney@ 27:47 — Personal connection drives ranking; nostalgia factor explicitly acknowledged as influencing preference

  • “If Jersey Jack made a Guns N' Roses... I would love. Now, that's a music pin.”

    Zach Minney@ 26:26 — Signals interest in modern remake of classic licensed game; implies current version has issues

  • “I don't think that pin... needs to be remade. I think that that's a cool pan... the shots. The ramps. The Cuban. Everything. It's fantastic.”

    Greg Bone@ 26:41 — Defends Data East design despite build quality reputation

  • “These are our favorites. They're not the best games. They're merely our favorites out of each category.”

    Greg Bone@ 2:52 — Establishes framing: list is subjective preference-based, not objective quality assessment

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    design_philosophy: Last Action Hero recognized for feature-packed design with crane magnet mechanics that rivals modern Stern games in complexity

    medium · Greg: 'couldn't get a more horrible thing... I was so surprised the first time I played with that with those magnets' and comparison to modern Stern

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    manufacturing_signal: System 11 positioned by hosts as potentially 'one of the best periods of pinball ever' with strong rule design and thematic integration

    medium · Greg and Zach agree System 11 is 'one of the best periods of pinball ever' with discussion of Whirlwind, High Speed, Funhouse topping rankings

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    community_signal: Nostalgia and first-ownership experience drives subjective ranking; Zach's Jurassic Park ranking influenced by being his first pinball machine

    high · Zach: 'Jurassic Park was my first [pinball machine]... that's why I was thinking maybe we share' and 'it's in my heart'

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    product_concern: Data East machines perceived as having reliability/build quality concerns despite strong game design; hosts acknowledge 'this bastard is gonna fall apart on me' feeling

    high · Zach: 'Data East does have like kind of a different feel... this son of a is gonna fall apart on me feel because they do'

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    sentiment_shift: Both hosts show evolved appreciation for classic/EM machines after initial skepticism; Zach explicitly acknowledges 'I was wrong' about dismissing EMs

    high · Zach: 'When I started pinball I thought I hate these... I was wrong' and Greg noting spinners as key engagement factor for EMs