Welcome everybody to Kenea's Pinball Podcast. I feel like I got shot and kicked between the legs at the same time and I'm not talking about the Twippy loss. I'm talking about this hernia recovery. Oh my gosh. This is not a walk in the park on this episode. Let's talk about who we think is going to strike first in the pinball world. Who's going to create the next chapter of excitement in pinball? It is March 5th. Now, you know, I've been saying this for a while now. I don't think TPF is going to be the place. We're going to see like the big new games. We've got Dungeons and Dragons already out from Stern. We've got Evil Dead from Spooky Pinball already out in the world. We've got Alice's Adventures in Wonderland still delayed going out one day soon from Dutch Pinball. What else? We've got Jersey Jack Pinball. We're waiting on Harry Potter. We're going to talk about that. We've got Stern Pinball. We know King Kong is around the corner. It's crazy, right? But it's not coming just yet. We're going to have to wait till like early summer, I think, for the big gorilla. So that leaves Texas Pinball Festival as an opportunity for someone to really steal the story. To control the narrative of like early spring, this is going to be the game everybody talks about. And we've been talking about what's most likely going to be the game that strikes first is going to be the barrels of fun game. But is anyone else going to have a surprise? We know P3 Multimorphic is not just making new glass. Did you see that story? They're going to make some All these things are the same. So, I'm going to show you how to make a pinball that's not reflective glass. I don't care. Everybody, heck, everybody's going to have non-reflective glass offerings. Stern has non-reflective glass. JJP. I've got PDI glass on my machine. And now we're going to have another option. It's good. I hope all the different non-reflective glass will just drive the price down of non-reflective glass. And by the way, the thing is I never envy you guys who have like 50 pinball machines With normal glass because the moment you put non reflective on one of your machines, trust me, you're going to want them on all of your machines. It's just such a nicer way to play pinball. So P3 Multimorphic, the rumor is that Jerry has a new title he's going to launch at Texas Pinball Festival, which by the way, is the show that's in his backyard. The close companies to this show are barrels of fun. You got Multimorphic and you've got Chris Turner I'm here for another episode of P3. I don't know if you guys know this, but the game is being released. I'm here to talk about a series of games that have been released, and it's called Portal Pinball, based on the old video game where you go in one portal and you come out another one. And if you think about the P3 platform and those targets that disappear and the ball comes out of another one, it really is a platform that might make Portal a really interesting offering. The problem with all of Multimorbic, and not just the fact that you wait a long time, I mean, he announced The PrincessBride a year ago and they still haven't sent out those expensive collector's edition versions of the game. I think what's gone out so far after a year are all the preorders, but I believe it's the preorders of the modules that go into existing P3 Multimorphic customer cabinets. I have still not heard from Jerry or anyone associated with this company. All I want to know is how many P3 Multimorphics this company has sold to date. Does nobody have that answer? The reason why I want to know that, I just want to know when they make just the modules, how many of them they need to make to satiate most of the owners that are out there. If I had to guess, I would say this company has not sold 500 or more of cabinets of multi morphic over like 12 years of the game being available. Maybe it's less than that. Maybe it's been available commercially for about eight years. But you know, portal, maybe, maybe the thing about the platform that will never change, whether it's weird out, whether it's portal, whether it's final resistance, it doesn't matter. The thing is, you need to watch I'm going to be talking about the game that you want to own, not just the game that's out that gets you excited. You also need to be excited about the other games on the platform. And the one downside of the people who have committed to this platform is the moment you might want to get out of the platform, you might be like $20,000 or more invested into all of these games. And you're never going to get anywhere near that back because who wants to absorb like four to five different David Van Es Knapp much sense I really wish Jerry would just take a risk and make a normal pinball machine in the traditional way and have a theme people wanted if he made the princess bride in a normal cabinet with someone like Franchi on artwork he would have sold way more than putting it on a platform like this I mean that and you could still do everything that gets people excited about the game on a normal pinball platform it never gonna happen Playingbookpendeknoitect, Starman, Playbook easiest T которомpn, Playbookundent, atractivefilmoney, playbookじゃない, Playbook enlarge playbook enlarge I'm a fan of the pinball game. I was a fan of the pinball game when Neo Geo games were 200 bucks and to stop me and my twin brother from going to the arcade, we came home one day and my mom put a Street Fighter 2 Champion Edition in the house. Best believe we're the most popular kids on the block with an arcade in the house and best believe we bought all of those friendships. All right, so it's not going to be Portal. What else might happen at Texas Pinball Festival? Are we going to get maybe the next game from Pedretti Gaming? We don't talk about this very much, but this company is about to remake Tales of the Arabian Nights. And even on Pinside, I've been telling people this. It's the next game from them. There's not a lot of interest. There's not a lot of conversation, but go on the Pinside marketplace and try to find a Tales of the Arabian Nights game in mint condition for anywhere south of $12,000 and you won't find one. It's like these games are and I had one. It's a beautiful game. That game has more toys in it than the last four offerings from Jersey Jack Pinball. Only problem with the Tales of the Arabian Nights, everybody knows, it's very shallow, you can see the end of the game easily, easily within a weekend if you're a decent player, and then it's just the same thing over and over again, and then you get used to all the mechs and the toys, and you get bored of it. But man, what a stunning game. So is that going to come out at Texas Pinball Festival? That game is most likely going to have the updated code. I don't know, right? The build quality of a Pedretti Gaming, Bally Williams remake isn't as good as the CGC remakes. And we know that CGC also has Twilight Zone. So we don't talk about this. This company is pretty much done with the Pulp Fiction LE production. And after that, there's no more Pulp Fiction SEs to be made. Those SEs are sitting at dealers and distros as inventory in boxes. You could go get one today if you wanted one. So I think this company might surprise us and reveal the Twilight Zone. I mean, think about this. The Twilight Zone from Chicago Gaming Company, one of the most loaded games of all time. Pat Lawler said this is what happens when they give you a blank check. This week's topic is the most popular topic in the game. The game is called Twilight Zone and it is a remake of Twilight Zone. The game is a remake of Twilight Zone with all of the toys and mechs. On a mech level, it embarrasses everything else in the pinball world. Isn't it crazy? Like 30 years later, we are spending so much more money on every single game and all the games have a third in it as the games used to have in the mid 90s. Now what would be fun with this Twilight Zone remake? I would love it. I love it. If there ever was a game, if you could do it at the factory level, have you seen that great American pinball black and white edition of Twilight Zone? Makes total sense. The show was in black and white. And if they made a black and white like SLE or LE edition of this game, I think that would be awesome. It would be a nice way to sort of create a new modern version of a classic. And then you have the classic version of the game. I would give people the ability to order a black and white version The If every single thing is black and white, it is awesome how disruptive it is when you put that in a modern lineup and it's like color, color, color, black and white. It almost looks like someone turned the world off or took us back like 80 years. It's absolutely so cool. So will it be CGC's The Twilight Zone? Now the thing about CGC is if they reveal Twilightzone, are you really going to put a deposit down? So, when do you actually think you're going to get your game? Like the day after you die? So, that's CGC Twilight Zone, maybe Pedretti. The other thing that I know they have the license, the Pinball Brothers, we never talk about them. We never talk about Queen, we never talk about the Ripley edition of Alien anymore. This company has the license to make Predator. This week in Pinball, Razaariest The big question mark is what version of Predator? I highly doubt they have the Arnold and Carl Weathers classic because that what everybody wants That the iconic predator There been lots of predator movies There been Alien vs Predator The new predator movie prey is absolutely amazing but that not what you want You don't want to spend eight to $10,000 on one of the later installments of predator. You don't want an original predator machine. You need those classic lines. Ghost nest mofo. I ain't got time to bleed. Get to the choppa. I mean, this is where get to the choppa comes from, right? I think so. It might come from commandos. I feel like we've all been saying that line for like 40 years. But Predator, man, the original one, it is just iconic. Everything about it. Obviously, there was the skit B version of the game that was an utter disaster. I miss those days when half a pin side said that Kevin Kulik had the license and Kaneda's Pinball Podcast was telling everybody he didn't. And the company was going to go under and there was no way this guy was going to make in his mom's basement an Arnold Schwarzenegger pinball machine and people said I was an idiot and to stop supporting Kaneda. I was right. I was right about Andrew Highway. I was right about Damien at Haggis Pinball. How many times do I say a pinball company is actually going to fail and go out of business? I think when I actually say that, it's come true I think every time I've called it. You know, you don't hear me saying JJP is going to go out of business or Stern. I'm not going to happen is not going to happen. All right, so maybe the pinball brothers is going to surprise us with predator. That's pretty cool. They made alien and predator. I don't know. You don't hear anything about these guys. Now, I will say this if they don't have a banger coming. I think these guys might be done with it. I mean it. I think they just might be done with it. I don't think Abba was a big seller and I don't mean like they're going to go out of business. I just mean the pinball brothers themselves who by the way are not brothers. I just think they're going to fall out of love with the amount of heavy lifting required to bring a commercial pinball machine to market to make it safe to put in people's homes. It's so much work. The juice just isn't worth the squeeze anymore. Remember a lot of these guys got into pinball 10 years ago. They had stars in their eyes. Games were like $5,500. The world is so different now. I think Alien when it first came out was $6,500 for a wide body Alien machine. We'll see if it's the Pinball Brothers. It's not going to be anything from Stern. Stern's going to be D&D all in at TPF. Jersey Jack is not going to have Harry Potter ready. I want to talk about Potter for a minute because I'm really wondering when Harry Potter is going to be revealed. I heard that they are working on the reveal video for Harry Potter. Let's The earliest. So, that's not that far away, but it's a two month window. And I know Jersey Jack wants to get that game out in front of King Kong, but trust me when I say this everybody, Jersey Jack is not worried about selling Harry Potter pinball machines. Stern Pinball is not worried about selling a Keith Elwin King Kong machine. This Week in Pinball, Trash Talks with John Papadiuk, Black Water, Kaneda's Pinball Podcast, Twippies Awards, We know Barrels of Fun needs to get their game revealed and get preorder money locked into that bank account that's nonrefundable. They need to do that before Harry Potter. Now, Potter's the big thing they need to worry about. Now, they also don't wanna have like Twilight Zone revealed or Predator or anything else because I think after witnessing what happened with Labyrinth and we're gonna make 1100 games, They made it to one thousand and seven. I think they're going to make, but we witnessed the birth of a new pinball company and we witnessed the market reaction to their game. We witnessed the reaction to their quality, which is good. I don't hear a lot of quality issues with labyrinth. They did the right thing. They established themselves as a legitimate pinball company. They have some great innovations in their product and they got everybody a game or will get everybody a game. Tit Caroline Shepard Anthony Pcock Matthew Young Zach M Vision specialize Chengi Spooky Pinball went 250 350 and then a thousand So for Barrels of Fun in their first inaugural game to make a thousand machines built together and not burning down anyone's houses, you have to give this company credit. But now on your second game, the follow up game, right? I would say that they didn't have a hit first game. Would anyone argue with that? Barrels of Fun's Labyrinth isn't really like a hit. It's a good game for people who love the theme. It didn't come out and like really, really land culturally in the pinball community as like one of the coolest games you gotta jump on. It just didn't. But now we know they can make it and manufacturing is the hard part. I think all eyes are on them. Are they gonna release a second game that's gonna get us more excited, get our blood going, and look this is gonna happen this is gonna be the one that is gonna happen I think in the next four weeks because they need to get out before April they have no idea when Jersey Jack's gonna hit with Potter the whole thing is funny to me because JJP is a little bit nervous probably about going up against Keith Elwin so they want to get out in front of Elwin but they don't know when Elwin's gonna drop it's easy to kind of guess when Elwin's gonna drop because it's usually four months after D&D drops Sturn does three cornerstones a year and they're four months apart. So if D and D came out in January, February, March, April, then you're looking at May for King Kong, which gives you all of now until May to get Harry Potter out. So they know that. So all we got to do is get our thing out before then. I also know that Jersey Jack must want to have some Harry Potter's on the line, not make people wait a few months. Like if this company makes collector's edition people wait six months after reveal to get the game, what are we doing JJP? Just get the CEs on the line right away, get them to customers, and you know we're so used to being guinea pigs, we don't even care anymore. We don't even care anymore. Like we know there's gonna be issues. Just let us have the product, and we know that Harry Potter, the good thing about Potter is this. Jersey Jack Pinball ships their games. They don't reveal a game until the code is pretty much complete. And then they make you wait six years for the final wizard mode that you're not good enough to ever see. But that's always been their MO, right? 99% done on day one and still 99% done on day like 900. I don't know why they do it that way. I don't know why Keith just can't finish the last question on the test, but that's how they do it. But so what's interesting is like, Like everyone knows Kong's sort of tentative date. Then we don't know Harry Potter and then you've got barrels of fun trying to sort of guess when Potter's gonna drop and give themselves enough of a window to have a little bit of a moment on the stage before all the attention goes to Harry Potter. Now David Van Es is a smart guy and he's like Chris I don't want to reveal this game or release it until we're ready. Well, they might have to wake up to a little bit of market reality. You might have to reveal this game before it is on the line and you might even need a couple months to get it ready. But what you just need, David, is a theme people want and you need a good showing. Nobody is worried about whether or not Barrels of Fun can make a game. We know you can. Anything you show us in the video, we will have 100% confidence that that will work and be in the game. The one thing you might not be able to do is show us code. Code might be early on, but David and team over there, where you been? Has that ever stopped anybody from ordering a pinball machine? This community would buy a game that hasn't even been put in a damn cabinet yet. So I think this company is going to reveal their game, not at TPF. I don't think they're going to make it. I think they're going to be early April at MGC and I think that's something like April 5th or something and I think that's when we're going to see the new game from Barrels of Fun. Gang, that's only 30 days from now. That means between now and then you get to enjoy somewhere in the vicinity of 15 more, maybe 10 more episodes of Canadian Pinball Podcast and then we will have the new game from Barrels of Fun. So I look forward to keeping you entertained and making it easier to be patient as you enjoy the world's only pinball Podcaster doing pinball podcast as he recovers from hernia surgery Let's go put an ice pack between my legs and cry myself to sleep. Everybody. Have a great night. We'll talk to you soon