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EP 20 - Who Won Texas Pinball Festival 2026?

Flip n Out Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·55m 23s·analyzed·Mar 25, 2026
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TL;DR

Texas Pinball Festival 2026 announcements: Yukon Yeti release, Houdini/Circus Voltaire from American Pinball, AFM remake rumors.

Summary

Texas Pinball Festival 2026 occurred last week with major announcements across manufacturers. Turner Pinball released Yukon Yeti (500 units, artwork received mixed feedback), American Pinball revealed Houdini 100th Anniversary remake and announced Circus Voltaire remake in development, and rumors emerged of a Chicago Gaming Company Attack from Mars remake. The hosts discuss community reception, manufacturer strategy, and industry dynamics around game reveals and production timelines.

Key Claims

  • Turner Pinball released Yukon Yeti with 500 unit production limit

    high confidence · Ken Cromwell and Greg Bone, hosts, discussing TPF 2026 announcements; confirmed availability at flippinoutpinball.com

  • American Pinball revealed Houdini 100 Year Anniversary pin with new artwork by Christopher Franchi at $7,995

    high confidence · Ken and Greg discussing TPF announcements; artwork described as underwater chains theme

  • American Pinball announced Circus Voltaire remake will be developed with John Popaduk theme and Melvin Williams on team

    high confidence · Ken and Greg discussing TPF announcements

  • Rumor exists that Chicago Gaming Company is developing an Attack from Mars remake

    medium confidence · Greg Bone states: 'there's another rumor right now that's starting' and references adding people to interest lists; characterized as leaked or rumored, not confirmed

  • Yukon Yeti received critical feedback about artwork and audio/callouts but positive gameplay feedback at TPF

    high confidence · Ken and Greg discussing community reactions; stated 'no harm, no foul' and 'really good feedback from everybody that played it'

  • American Pinball used AI-generated elements in Houdini marketing materials, causing community backlash

    high confidence · Ken notes issue with 'artificial intelligence elements' in marketing flyer; clarifies Christopher Franchi was not responsible

  • Yukon Yeti is approximately halfway sold through based on distributor interest observations

    low confidence · Ken states: 'I would assume they're probably at least halfway sold through at this point, if I had to guess'

  • American Pinball's Circus Voltaire remake will require at least 6 months for parts acquisition from order date

    medium confidence · Greg estimates: 'if you start ordering parts right now you're looking at at least six months at least to get to get everything'

Notable Quotes

  • “I think that Zach is one of the best pinball artists in the entire world, if not the best.”

    Ken Cromwell @ mid-episode — Establishes Ken's respect for artist Zach (presumably from Stern/Flip N Out) and frames discussion of art package reception as subjective rather than objective failure

  • “This is Chris Turner and Turner Pinball's like moment, you know, of where that their next game, you know, they nail it and get it right. It's going to be a thousand unit game most likely.”

    Greg Bone @ mid-episode — Positions Yukon Yeti as Turner Pinball's breakthrough moment analogous to Labyrinth for Barrels of Fun; indicates potential trajectory for future production

  • “You can't take two or three years to make these games. You need to get these games out.”

    Greg Bone @ late-episode discussion of Circus Voltaire — Establishes industry expectation for production speed and criticizes slow manufacturing timelines

  • “We are not able to accept deposits... we're in a bad spot when people are calling and we don't have information. It just, it's frustrating.”

    Ken Cromwell @ discussing American Pinball announcement strategy — Highlights distributor pain point with game announcements lacking pricing, marketing assets, and deposit capability; reflects operational frustration

  • “When I double dip and I just dropped a nuke, it's like, now what?”

    Greg Bone @ discussing American Pinball's dual announcement strategy — Critiques revealing two games simultaneously as poor business strategy; advocates for spacing announcements to maintain press momentum

  • “If I have two games that I know that are coming out and I'm at a pinball show and I reveal one of them, I don't want to reveal the second one. I want to be able to spread that news out over time.”

    Greg Bone @ game announcement strategy discussion — Articulates preferred manufacturing/marketing playbook for managing game reveals across multiple shows

  • “I think Circus Voltaire is a brilliant choice. Oh, I think it's going to sell good. Yeah, it's going to sell regardless.”

Entities

Texas Pinball FestivaleventKen CromwellpersonGreg BonepersonTurner PinballcompanyYukon YetigameAmerican Pinballcompany

Signals

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    product_launch: Turner Pinball successfully released Yukon Yeti at TPF 2026 with 500-unit limited production; game received positive gameplay feedback despite mixed aesthetic critique

    high · Ken and Greg confirm game was released at show with approximately 50% units sold through; gameplay received 'really good feedback from everybody that played it'

  • ?

    product_strategy: American Pinball announced two games simultaneously (Houdini 100 Anniversary and Circus Voltaire), criticized by hosts as poor strategy that diffuses marketing momentum

    high · Greg states: 'When I double dip and I just dropped a nuke, it's like, now what?' and advocates for spacing announcements across multiple shows to maintain press coverage

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    market_signal: Turner Pinball's 500-unit limitation on Yukon Yeti created scarcity-driven interest; hosts note company 'catapulted into spotlight' and see positive trajectory for next game

    high · Greg: 'this will be a big step for them...catapults them now into the spotlight'; Ken notes people 'jockey for position and get the inside scoop on the next game'

  • ?

    product_concern: Yukon Yeti artwork and audio/callouts received critical feedback from community; Turner Pinball unlikely to revise cosmetics mid-production due to limited 500-unit run

    high · Ken discusses mixed artwork opinions; Greg notes artwork differences from community standards; both conclude 500-unit limitation makes revision impractical vs. Jersey Jack's Hobbit recut

  • ?

    operational_signal: Distributors experiencing operational challenges when games announced without pricing, marketing assets, or deposit capability; creates sales impediment and customer frustration

Transcript

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Hey, what's going on pinball land? Welcome to Flip N Out Pinball Podcast. I'm one of your hosts, Ken Cromwell, Andy, and who's the other host? I'm your other host, Greg. That's right. Greg Bone is our co-host. I want to congratulate you real quick, buddy. Episode number 20 of this fresh new humble little podcast that started back in July of last year. Now we do have more episodes because a lot of these were considered specials and interviews and first impressions but for official capacity and statistical purposes we're on episode 20 so nicely done. How incredibly fast has this gone by? It's because it's fun as hell man like I I can record I listen we probably talk on the phone We're going to be doing a podcast on at length at least once a day or every other day. I know. And those could all be podcasts if they weren't as vulgar. It's not even vulgar. No, if they weren't as... It's just sensitive. It's sensitive information... Yeah. That's true. ... mixed with strong takes that the world is not ready for. Correct. Now, we've also spoken about one day when it's our last day in the industry how we would like to go out. And that's always a fun conversation. Minds will be blown. ise a Cosimo Sudak broadcast cândas abays tensoresa que abaná The Part Star Back Emergency Tarreg When 들 en There's even more drama that happens behind the scenes that most people will never realize. And it would be fun to talk about that without feeling like you had an obligation of loyalty to somebody. And I guess it's just like any crummy job you've ever had. You fantasize about your last day of work. It's not like that. Like, I love my job. Oh, yeah. It's not Zach or job. No, no. It's a negative Nancy's out there that could be called a call to attention at some point one day, one day. It is the hobby as a whole that we could, we have some expression and some... Strong takes. Strong takes on... Mostly good. A little bit of our alternate thinking, but whatever, whatever. Full disclosure on this episode, we're just going to kind of go over a little bit of what's been going on in the news lately, Texas Pinball Festival. Before we do that, I wanted to welcome Kim, our newest Patreon member. So Kim went to patreon.com slash flipping up and ball podcast and got herself a subscription over there. If you're interested in supporting the show in a different way, you can do that again. That's patreon.com slash flipping up and ball podcast. For those of you that don't know what Patreon, it's really just a, it's another kind of community where you can kind of hang out with people that are like-minded and that follow the show. We've got group chat over there, but we have a lot of bonus content that we release to even bonus episodes that don't go to the public air. They go to our Patreon subscribers. You're never really missing out on anything if you're not a Patreon, but again, if you really want to get involved and go above and beyond and have that kind of backstage pass is what I would say it is, that's over at Patreon.com. Kim jumped in headfirst. She got in there and she was just commenting away in the chat and talking. She was ready for it.

  • Medieval Madness Merlin edition remake is in production scheduled between now and September 2026

    medium confidence · Ken references 'Medieval Madness, which is supposed to be in production between now and I think September of this year for the Merlin edition'

    • Ken and Greg (respectively) @ Circus Voltaire remake discussion — Expresses confidence in remake choice and predicts strong sales regardless of marketing execution

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    Attack from Marsgame
    Medieval Madnessgame
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    high · Ken: 'we're in a bad spot when people are calling and we don't have information...it's frustrating' and 'it does hinder sales because...we're not able to accept deposits'

  • ?

    manufacturing_signal: Circus Voltaire remake expected to require at least 6-month lead time for parts acquisition from order date; production uncertain before end of 2026

    medium · Greg estimates: 'if you start ordering parts right now you're looking at at least six months at least to get to get everything and that's if everything hits'

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: American Pinball gaining community trust through expanded parts availability and quick shipping (4-day delivery); seen as strategic brand rehabilitation

    medium · Customer feedback mentioned to hosts: 'Hey, I don't know if you've checked out American pinball's website lately. Like they've got a ton more parts on there...got it in like four days'

  • ?

    industry_signal: Community scrutiny of new releases has intensified over past 10 years; games receiving higher-level critique on artwork, audio, and mechanics than 10 years ago

    high · Ken and Greg discuss how 'our community...critiques things so much more and it so much more scrutinous now than what it was nine ten years ago'; Greg notes Turner game would be 'hailed as a masterpiece' if released decade ago

  • ?

    rumor_hype: Chicago Gaming Company rumored to be developing Attack from Mars remake in addition to Medieval Madness Merlin edition; Attack from Mars not officially announced

    low · Greg states: 'there's another rumor right now that's starting' and notes this came from 'interest lists over the last several months'; characterized as speculation, not confirmed

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Hosts distinguish between artist merit and community preference; acknowledge artwork quality independent of personal taste (e.g., Jaws 50th, Deadpool growing appreciation over time)

    high · Ken and Greg discuss how artwork perception evolves; Greg notes he initially disliked Deadpool but now considers it beautiful; Ken now prefers Jaws 50th despite initial skepticism

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Turner Pinball positioned as emerging competitor with growth trajectory; success of Yukon Yeti influences market dynamics and collector interest in next title

    high · Greg: 'Yukon Yeti...this is...that stepping stone to catapult them...much like what Labyrinth did for Barrels of Fun...their next game...they nail it...it's going to be a thousand unit game most likely'

  • ?

    product_concern: American Pinball's AI-generated content in Houdini marketing materials created community backlash; attributed to marketing department, not artist Christopher Franchi

    high · Ken notes issue caused controversy but clarifies: 'It had nothing to do with Chris...That was not...it had nothing to do with Chris at all' and confirms 'that was no doing of Chris's'

    • 3:59
    Well, you know what was cool was you did a solo session. And the solo session is one of these things that we have a Patreon and your whole solo session was just like bonus coverage on how you've become more connected and appreciative of the dungeon crawler Carl license. And I noticed that Kim signed up because she wanted to get in on that conversation. So that was cool, man. That was that was a nice little eight to 10 minutes. Thank you. DCC. Thank you, sir. I like it. We were just talking about it a little bit before we came on. Oh, thank you. Thank you. We were. It wasn't bad. I gotta get used to it. I need to do a little more. It's hard to do anything solo. Like I've got a lot of respect for the solo podcasters, people that are, you know, creating content solo. It's, it's easy to be able to riff off of somebody. Yeah. I really like a three man booth because then that really kind of takes the pressure off. Well, I had the added pressure too that messed me up. I'll be completely honest because you, you had said that, Hey, listen, send that over to me. I'll edit it. Just go ahead and do it in, uh, in Riverside. I can take care of it for you. So then I felt the added pressure of not doing like a hundred takes or messing up or sitting here and thinking, Hmm, okay, so where do I go with that? What do I say here? So then I had to try to do it all in one take to not disappoint you because I knew you'd be listening and watching all my fuck ups. Not at all, man. You actually you were very fluid. You didn't record a video. You just had audio. I assume that you did edit some of that up. So for what it's worth, it was like a one take. Oh, no, that was all straight. One take. That was all straight, one take. You're the consummate professional, Greg. I've always said that about you. Thank you. That's good. We just had a Texas Pinball Festival that happened last week. A lot of weird stuff happened, a lot of fun stuff happened, a lot of head-scratching things happened in the pinball world. If you were at Texas Pinball Festival, you were there to appreciate it. If you weren't there, we actually had two of our Patreon subscribers go onto the floor as boots in the ground, and that was Scott Avery and Scott O'Neill, and they were checking in and they were offering audio commentary to kind of give everybody a general pulse The two Scott's so we appreciate that that was super nice of them I guess some of the major moments and we can go manufacturer by manufacturer here but Turner pinball released the Yukon Yeti game and we did our first impressions our first takes on a special episode that aired just before this one American pinball they double dipped and they revealed their Houdini 100 year anniversary of his death pin and then it came out at Texas Pinball Festival that they are now going to be doing the remake for Circus Voltaire. Ironically, or another John Popaduke theme, Chicago Gaming Company came in or actually, I don't know if Chicago Gaming Company came in and did anything, but there's another rumor right now that's starting. And I know this because as adding people to the interest lists over the last several months, Attack from Mars is now rumored to be a remake that Chicago Gaming Company might have leaked or ahan Meloy G,
    7:25
    c KENijkchi, We invite you to participate in a programme at www.digby eyebrows.com, by going to digby- 한ãs.com, or you could also participate by becoming part of the initiative. There is a number of shows that relieve you from ERP at the bottom of your CD. KENavier- I think Zach is one of the best pinball artists in the entire world, if not the best. And there's been art packages that he's done that I'm not wild about. Sort of thing, you know, personally and then, you know, other people absolutely love them. You know, like with King Kong, like I just, I was not a big fan of King Kong's artwork. Zach was. Zach loved it. You know, I know other people that, that absolutely loved that artwork. I, I just wasn't my cup of tea. So I think it's like what you said. I think that it's just, uh, it's very different than what we are accustomed to on games. Uh, not for Turner Pinball because Ninja Eclipse was sort of the same way and so forth. And I guess Merlin as well. So, you know, same sort of style they're following in their thing, but you know, personally, not, not necessarily like my, my cup of tea, but right. You know, so beautiful. It's so pretty game. So 500 units, right. As of right now, there are still Yukon Yetis available to purchase. In fact, we still have spots at flippinoutpinball.com. So if you're looking to buy one, you can go to flippinoutpinball.com, put it to your cart checkout and put the deposit down. Or you can email Greg and or myself, and we'll just take care of you and send you an invoice with a payment link. So it's not sold out. It was 500 units. I don't know where they're at. I would assume they're probably at least halfway sold through at this point, if I had to guess. Again, no way to confirm that just based on interest, We've ordered kind of distributors that we've seen pop up lately that are selling the game.
    9:24
    Do you think that and tell me if this is a viable option, because I do I do remember back in the day when The Hobbit came out, Jersey Jack Pinball revealed The Hobbit and.
    9:33
    The first impression was people were not very they were not thrilled with the artwork on the playfield. It was just not they didn't like the artwork. So Jack and I give him all the credit in the world, took that feedback because that was the second game coming off of Wizard And he's like, all right, look, if people are going to be bothered by this, let's just take our time and get it right. Right. Ultimately, it should equate to more sales. And they changed the whole artwork. And, you know, I think almost universally people preferred the most recent package that's on Hobbit. Is this something that Chris can do or is this something that Chris considers doing, changing the artwork to appease the feedback that he got from the pinball community? Or does he kind of just dig in and it kind of is what it is and it'll it'll appeal to To those who buy it. No, absolutely not. Absolutely not. No, there, there, there is no, there's no changing this artwork. Um, it's just, it's, it's too far along. People already saw it. The game was released. Uh, again, I don't think anything is inherently wrong with the artwork in, in the sense of, you know, that it's, it's bad by any means. It's just different. Um, and I, I think, you know, with it being limited to 500 units, I think they're fine. I think you chalk this up that if, you know, the feedback that you're getting, you know, unanimously or, you know, the majority is coming in and that's where their critique is, you look at moving forward with the next game and maybe doing something a little different. But right now with this one, I mean, I think you're fine. If you're halfway sold through even on this game, that's a success to me on this game for a small company like Turner Pinball. So I think that they're still in very good shape. I don't think it's one of those things, you know, cause with Jersey Jack, I'm sure that they were looking at selling a thousand, 2000 hobbits or more. So I think it made more sense to probably change that on that game to do that. But when you're limited at 500, you know, I think you'll find 500 people who enjoy this artwork and who love it. So, you know, but again, if you're getting unanimous feedback on that, that, that people just don't really care for our work, Hey, it's not bad, but you know, that's not what I like. Then change it next game. Leave this one alone. Yeah, I mean, you don't, you don't play the artwork. No, but these are very visual. Yeah. Visual collectibles. So I can see where you want that to, to, uh, line up. And look, the other thing is this, there's a lot of art packages that initially I didn't particularly care for. And then over time I grew to appreciate them for being outside of my taste. And, you know, that happens too. And that was like that, uh, Jaws 50th anniversary was a game where I was like, man, that's a little gaudy. I don't think I really dig that. It's too bad that, uh, in my personal opinion, it was, it was disappointing that they went that direction. But then now that's the, my preferred art package, uh, almost overall. Back to the zombiety thing, like Jeremy Packer never lets me live it down. Um, when, when Deadpool came out, he doesn't. Yeah, I was, I said, you know, this is, uh, this is too much red. This is awful. What are you doing? There's too much red with the red light. What game was that? Too much red. He said it was too much. Was it Deadpool? Yeah. I remember that. He still just glares at me and burns a hole through my soul because I said, I did. But here's where I'm getting at. I did since apologize because I actually think that game is beautiful now. And it was one of those things that grew on me as well, like what you said. So while I had some critique for that, that game definitely, that package grew on me. Yeah. So you can see where you can change your opinion on in our pack. Oh, yeah Now a couple things that I think can be addressed and probably You know should be addressed it would be because this seems like it would be a much easier Fix or change and that would be changing out some of the audio Assets whether that be the main music theme or maybe even some of the call-outs That's something that can be even updated with code if the game You know launches without without those changes being made and then again if there are no changes that are made The game's still great. People are still buying it and they bought what they experienced. So, you know, no harm, no foul. It got really good feedback from everybody that played it There was really good feedback from from TPF So I mean you know I think that our community our community is so it critiques things so much more and it so much more scrutinous now than what it was nine ten years ago Don't you feel? To where that, you know, a game could have came out like this. Yeah, I mean, without a doubt. Yeah, I mean, if you had somebody like Turner Pinball that came out with a game ten years ago and came out with this game, it'd be hailed as a masterpiece. Like, this is a glorious game. This is beautiful. Like, no one would raise a concern about the callouts. No, to me personally, I don't think anybody would say much about it. I mean, you know, look at when spooky did America's most haunted. I mean, that was just like, oh my gosh. Oh, here, look at this. This is great. A new game and a new company and look at what's going on there. I mean, it's fun. It's fine, but I mean, it's so barren and stripped down and yeah, sure. You know what I'm saying? You know, but it was the starting game. It's what they, you know, and I know this isn't Turner's starting game, but they're still, they're still in that, that, uh, that not, I won't even say So this is essentially a coin... And that's a lot of позволment then, I want to say. Yep. Correct. Here's, let's see if I got it right. So their��yxplore ASIC, whether it be erk waren heaving as an Irба Malook or Pisch, Funk Whole closer to Iillum свет ploni age of fusion ciao e. Let's be uncountable. I told you that, man, I wanted it to be a little gatherable. I didn't have any level of economics because I'm in big politics. I'm going to asking about the Late YA war anyway, so it's slowly traveled out. And, I don't know if it's... People are Muslims. Maybe whats going on there. I'm still in going down poder lab. All of that, right? And so that was the first one. And then the second one after that, we had the second one. Now, I think I've seen a lot of people that are supporting the company. They see the trajectory of the company trending in a positive direction. And now they're like, hey, look, I want to get on the list for your next game. And that's what it's all about right now. It's like everybody wants to jockey for position and get the inside scoop on the next game. And that's a good spot to be in for sure. Exactly. Turner Pinball or any company. Exactly. It catapulted them into the spotlight for once, you know what I'm saying? So you're going to get more critique. You're going to get more feedback on a game. You know, it's, it's not inherently, um, you know, that, that there's anything wrong per se. You're just, like you said, it's a larger sample source. Now, now, now you're open up to the world and people, some people are just going to critique you and be nasty regardless, just because that that's who they are and that's what they do in this hobby. But you know, it does like this, this to me is that stepping stone for them. You know, we talked about this earlier and stuff like this, this, this will be a big step for them. This is going to be what catapults them now into the spotlight, you know, much like what Labyrinth did for Barrels of Fun. Like this is Chris Turner and Turner Pinball's like moment, you know, of where that their next game, you know, they nail it and get it right. It's going to be a thousand unit game most likely. I don't have any idea what the production schedule looks like. And I don't know if you have any information on this. Zach is traveling right now, so it's not something that I've asked him in particular. I guess I could have reached out to Chris, but I think that we would have had that information offered if it was known. I was giving them the benefit of the doubt to get through Texas Pinball Festival, get an idea of how many games they're going to have to make, at least initially on the first order with parts and whatnot, and then we'd have some type of production timelines. But I think that's crucial too. You can't take two or three years to make these games. You need to get these games out. Larry Rooks rotating air espoused more cameras at Symphony Hall, San Francisco's Bay of Paseo, durable or nor, days of horrible weather are coinciding at the display at bay Blue Connect, geitionally interested in breaking news notion at KWA disso crave more games I mean, that's where the lines were. That's what people were talking about. Like I said, we got a ton of great feedback on that game because I was a little nervous. I think any time, you know, back to us talking about the critique and opening it up to the masses and you put a spotlight on yourself, you know, there's inevitably just going to be bad stuff said. But I don't know if I heard anything bad about that game. You know, other than like what you said, you know, some critique about the call out. Yeah, exactly. Critiques of the art, just some stuff, but the game itself, no. And I did hear mixed, this was the thing that I did hear mixed opinions on was, did it feel like Whitewater? Did it feel like a Whitewater 2.0? Did it feel like that Dennis Nordman rehash? And some people were like, no, no, didn't make it. There's some, there's some glimpses of Whitewater that you feel, but it's its own standalone game. I didn't want to make that time, and then some other people were like, oh, what an amazing, you know, Whitewater sequel, like it's so, so close to the first one. It's kind of nostalgic. It feels good. You know what I'm saying? So I did hear I did hear competing kind of variances in people's opinions on on that aspect. But over still good either way, right? It was still very good feedback. That was the thing when we were doing the first impression podcast, you know, we can look at everything and assume, We didn't shoot anything, right? We didn't flip a game. There was no early access where people came in and flipped and they kind of already knew what to think. So that was going to be my major concern when it went to Texas Pinball Festival. If this thing shoots like a dog, it's like nothing's going to save it. And I mean, that is the public first impression. So the feedback that comes off of that game right during TPF, I think would have had a huge impact on sales one way or the other. I don't recall reading anybody say that they walked away thinking the game wasn't fun to shoot and that upper playfield which surprisingly to me was us was like you want to get up there and mess around in the upper playfield which is cool because like I'm not big in the uppers I'm not big into lowers it looks it looks like it's trending in the right direction man so I you know that's my fear too that was my because yeah here's the thing is if if you don't take that game to a show and you don't really have it out We'll be right back. Good game, like, I like this. Not nervous in the sense that we didn't think that it would shoot well, but nervous in the sense that the community opinion can sway sales and success. Obviously, as pinball distributors, we want to sell games, but we want games to be good that we're selling. Exactly. So yeah, so that was a relief, I would say, that is absolutely the correct word. American Pinball. I got a little bit of commentary on this, and so the Houdini 100 anniversary pin comes out. It's the revisited artwork from Christopher Franchi. It's the cool Houdini underwater in the chains. He's on the left and right side of the... It looks great. I think it's a great upgrade cosmetically. As far as we know, no geometrical changes to the play field, nothing like that happened. So essentially you're reskinning a hundred of these Houdinis and you're selling them, and at a good price too. The game was priced at $7,995. Nowadays, with that pricing level, you're really only at Stern Pro territory at $69.99. So the price point's nice. You know, is there enough interest to re-release Houdini even with the new art package? I don't know, but I think the number of units that they selected with 100 was was right. If you were reading online, there were some issues where when the game was initially released and they were using a marketing flyer that had artificial intelligence elements in it. So that fired some people up. Some people didn't care. It was unfortunate that that the artwork was celebrated with Christopher Franchi being the main artist on the pinball machine. So if you want to learn more about what's going on here and why you should visit the Pinball Festival, you can go to pinball.com. And as far as I know, that was no doing of Chris's. That was that was not. So it had nothing to do with Chris. It had nothing to do with Chris at all. Because I saw some people like getting upset, like that it had something to do with him and that he should know better sort of thing. But but that that was nothing to do with. That's a great point, actually, because I did not see Chris make any public statements about it one way or the other. And I think that's important to realize that... And it's gorgeous artwork. Yeah, it is. It's beautiful. I do wish that they would have done something else though. I mean, I think all of it is a great business move by Brian. You're moving some old inventory, trying to breathe some new life into an old game that you need to get rid of or that you've got parts laying around for. So I think a very, very strategic, very nice business move and probably doing it in the I'm not a fan of the absolute cheapest, you know, most economical fashion that you could, but I do wish that just because most of my games are wedged in between other games, it's, I mean, it is stunning looking. Like, I love that aqua blue color of that water and everything, and I mean, that's just such an iconic thing that when it comes to Houdini, but I really wish, and I know that it's a very small artwork area around that back glass, but I really, really wish that they would have done something different. I can understand the playfield, that's fine, but I really wish they would have done something with that backglass. And maybe even thrown in a sculpt or two sort of thing. I think that that would have been nice. I could see that. Just change it up. Personal preference. But now you're probably not selling that game at $7,999. No, no, no, exactly. So you got more of the build materials. Exactly. So, you know, I think it was a way to kind of wet the whistle over there. I don't know how many of these games or these playfields had already been built up and they just needed to reskin some games and how many they actually had to build. But I mean, unless they had 100 Houdini's sitting in a box, they had to have made some Houdini games. And that is positive for me because now I know that, you know, they're manufacturing instead of just, you know, reskinning old games for the sake of, you know, clearing inventory. Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd.
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    IVAN KEMINSHUSTER, podcastweb.com Fox Sports Network 5 So, we're going to launch. Let us know what the date is. Please give us some marketing assets. Please let us know what the price is, what the dealer price is. And finally, if you are going to reveal a game, please make sure that everybody is in a position where we can start taking deposits, right? Because a lot of these games, to be very honest, some of it's very impulsive and you want to buy a game. breve comple th'auzeigt We are not able to accept deposits. So I don't know. It's just a way that they approached it. It's not anything that I personally would have done if I was running a pinball company. It doesn't make it right or wrong, but it's just like, we're in a bad spot when people are calling and we don't have information. It just, it's frustrating. It does put us in a bad spot, but it also, I think it does hinder sales because like, unless this is just like, you're a diehard Circus Voltaire fan to where it's like, I am getting this game regardless. Give a f*****g hashtag forgelose. что ж, Fxxk I want In on That Keep the Acc精 Pharaoh of�� Es на crevette H s Audio Vodik opinion Flow adrenal woman high atlantic call inner love dollar Ho car ML ho hi hello R hit l bell Rama lick ti UpWSick decided to see the Dassault We be right back Strong rumor The Well, I guess a rumor leaked and then, you know, I don't know if if a rumor leaks, you shouldn't necessarily feel like you're held hostage to confirm a rumor, in my opinion. Otherwise, that we you know, every single game that ever came out would be announced months and months and months before an official reveal. But, you know, the other way I look at it is and I'm Monday morning quarterbacking. I'm not really not Monday morning quarterback because I would go into this already thinking this way. If I have two games that I know that are coming out and I'm at a pinball show and I reveal one of them, I don't want to reveal the second one. I want to be able to spread that news out over time, you know, whether that be a few months or a couple of pinball shows or something like that. Yes. It just keeps me in the news. It keeps people talking about me. It keeps the excitement up. But when I double dip and I just dropped a nuke, it's like, now what? So when is the next new news going to be coming out of American Pinball? Because now I got to I got to, you know, get these Houdini's finished up and shipped. And then I've got to get all the collateral ready for Circus Voltaire. I got to get that on the line. I assume that game's going to sell well. I think of all the remakes to their credit that are available, I think Circus Voltaire is a brilliant choice. Oh, I think it's going to sell good. Yeah, it's going to sell regardless. It's going to sell. You've got Melvin Williams over there now, who is very ingenuitive. And I think that he's going to be able to add some cool stuff to that game, whether it's the reimagined, probably the reimagined version of it. approaches tomorrow? The сделать дан communist 19121 explain legislations for a production ofairball cameras independent x qnd Allis I'm a, but I'd had a customer contact me and say, Hey, I don't know if you've checked out American pinball's website lately. Like they've got a ton more parts on there. I had to order something, got it in like four days. Um, you know, like push that narrative, push, push where you're, you're making people in the community feel comfortable with your, your brand again. And I think that I would have probably wrote on that and the Houdini's through TPF and just got my name out there more again, just like turn pinball, that launch pad. This is this is that stepping stone to catapult you into that huge success. And I would have probably just saved Circus Voltaire for, like you said, when we're ready to take deposits. Well, it's a little bit more appropriate time. Yeah, I would have. Yeah. Because I mean, I don't know. There could have been something behind the scenes that we don't know about. Yeah, we don't know. We don't know. But I mean, just for the sake of having pinball conversation and us being in the industry for a little while and seeing how games are revealed and really kind of I'm having what I think is a general playbook that is that works it doesn't mean that you can't think outside of the box because we've seen companies think outside of the box and sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't and then as far as production timelines on Circus Voltaire I don't I don't know what to expect I think it's gonna take a while to get parts I think if you start ordering parts right now you're looking at at least six months at least to get to get everything and that's if everything hits so you know do we see this game on the I'm the line before the end of the year. Potentially, I hope so. It'd be good. I would love to be able to start collecting deposits on Circus Voltaire, assuming they're able to get it out before the end of the year. I'd like to be able to get those deposits in because you know, what's going to end up happening is just like we said, people are going to get on this list and the new shiny comes out. The new shiny comes out now.
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    An interesting tie into this because we're talking about a company revealing a game and before that game is on the line or produced or shipped revealing another game. So, Chicago Gaming Company has not, in my understanding, has not officially revealed that they are going to be making an Attack From Mars remake, but Greg, rumor on the street is that Medieval Madness, which is supposed to be in production between now and I think September of this year for the Merlin edition, somewhere is out there, somebody's leaked or suggested or it could just be a rumor that Attack From Mars remake is coming too. That we see that game from them. Like that super excites me. Before another. I don't think so. No, not unless something happened with the, the, their next game or, you know, I wasn't raw thrills and play mechanics. Weren't they supposed to be doing another game with them? Yeah. I thought play mechanics was working on another game. Like, like I honestly don't know what their next rumored game is. I don't know what it would be, but I, I, I kind of thought that, that these Merlins, the rerun of these Merlins was kind of like that. This is an index of noise. All of these things are going to be on the internet for two years. Yeah, I would say that's fair because you would you would warm the lineup. I mean, if they don't get Merlin's off until September, it usually takes them a transition period. For sure. The next 2027, you're you're making this other building all those other games. Exactly. That's just not happening anymore. I just I don't really know of all the companies. Chicago Gaming Company to me is the most elusive because I really I don't know anybody over there We'll see you next time. I would love to see a little bit more communication coming out of CGC just in general. I think it would suit them well or it would benefit them by just being in contact with the general public more because a lot of people are rooting for the company and they already have a pinball product that people love. You know, it's a good product. So just having a little bit more communication and bridging the gap between speculation and wondering and updating the timeline. Hey, I'm going to be very honest. I think that everybody in this community right now. Like, please, please, please communicate with us more. Sure, sure. I totally get it.
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    Who else is at Texas Pinball Festival? Barrels of Fun was at Texas Pinball Festival, and obviously they brought their catalog. They had some Winchesters there. Winchesters, shipping's been a little slow on Winchesters. I think when that game was revealed in October, it was suggested that games were on the line and coming out, and they are coming out. It's just, it's been, it's been a, it's been a little slow. Trickle, little trickle. Little trickle. I'm hoping that stuff ramps up there because there's not a couple of days that go by where I don't have somebody asking about, you know, Hey, I bought this game six months ago and I've heard nothing. And I'm like, Oh, I, I get it. I want to see them keep that momentum going too. Like, I don't want to see this, uh, you know, start to impact, you know, the thoughts of their company and what they're like, you know, keep that rolling, man. Cause you guys were, you know, the hottest thing in pinball. Yes. You know, with, with, with, when Winchester came out and that up Dunes, you know, Dunes sold significantly, you know, probably 10 times better after, you know, Winchester came out and, and Expo, Chicago Expo. So it's like, I, I just want to see these guys continue with that momentum and, and don't let, you know, something like this alter their perception of that company. You're so right. Cause it is only 525 games too. You know, it's not like you've got 2,500 games or a thousand games. You got to try to figure out what's going on. So hopefully, uh, hopefully production ramps up over there. Jersey Jack Pinball was in attendance and they brought their catalog, uh, as well as Harry Potter, which is still selling very, very well. Just, just sold another one this morning. I don't, again, I don't know that there's a day or two that goes by where somebody is not ordering a Harry Potter. I will say this, Greg, this was the first Texas pinball festival that I wasn't in attendance at. And the previous five, I was there working with Jersey Jack Pinball. I don't know how else to say it. Grueling working, working the booth, JJB for, for Texas Pinball Festival, you know, and it was largely, it was myself, it was Michael Fox, and it was Bill Grupp. And we had three guys that would set up this booth. And we would have some help from the local distributor there to get some of the game set up. But dude, just manning the booth for all those hours, you're looking at 13, 14 hour days. I've never been so happy. I've never been more happy to not attend Texas Pinball Festival and not have to go work that show. That was that was just I love Jersey Jack. I love the people there. I loved my job there. I dreaded Texas Pinball Festival. And it wasn't I loved talking to everybody that was coming into the booth and hanging out. It was just I was I would leave that. I'm just complaining. I would leave that show and I wouldn't be myself for like 10 days. I'd be sore. I'd feel run down. Oh, man, it was it was. So, it sounds like they had more help this year, which figures, because I'm not there anymore. But good on them. Spooky Pinball drops the bomb. I think they had like 20 Beetlejuices there at that show or something like that. That's a lot of Beetlejuices. You know, for a company that was getting some criticism because, hey, nobody's going to ever be able to play this game. It's like, go to a pinball show. There's going to be 20 of them. And I think that's awesome. That's amazing. They're good about that. They're really good about that. I'm very, very, very bullish on Spooky. They do a lot of things right. They really do. They listen. Yeah. Well, they take community feedback to heart. And then, you know, also, you know, when they're asking distributors what's up, they... And, I mean, this doesn't really apply to Stern because Stern just cranks out games so fast. But I like their numbering of games. Like, wait, we don't have to do a ton of guesswork. And that's it. And you know, it's going to be another month and a half, two months before your game is I'm on line right now. I was just I was I went to the Texas Pinball Festival website because usually they'll have like game of the show and best booth and stuff like that. And I don't I don't see any of that posted because we were talking about who stole the show and we speculated it might have been Yukon Yeti. We've got to remember Stern brought Pokemon there. Pokemon has been one of the best selling games that I've ever seen in my short experience with being a distributor. But it's a juggernaut license. It's powerful. People are loving it. But yes, this is a great year. Stern has just a powerhouse title out. Spooky Pinball has a powerhouse title out. Barrels of Fun has their powerhouse title that they're putting on the line. All the stars aligned, if this is going to be an indicator of what's going to happen like through the rest of the year and going into 2027, this might be some of the best two or three or four years of pinball that the industry has seen since the modern day era, especially that, you know, especially with the speculated titles that are coming out. There's not anything on there that's really a head scratcher. So as long as nobody drops the ball, everyone's happy, Greg. Everyone's happy. Hexa Pinball was supposed to bring Three Musketeers. That was going to be like their reveal game. Space Hunt was the game they had previous to Three Musketeers. And I guess the game got hung up in customs. That has to suck. You do all this preparation to get yourself over to Texas Pinball Festival, which is, you know, that and Expo are probably one and two as far as the most recognizable pinball shows in the U.S. and only to get kind of hung up in customs. We had the pleasure of meeting the guys at Hexup when we were at Expo this year, and they really lifted the hood and went through Space Hunt with us because we were kind of curious about the build and whatnot. It's a pretty well-built game. It's a pretty nice game. So I wouldn't hesitate trying to get one in my collection. Yeah, I liked a lot of stuff they did. Yeah, so did I. So did I. I really did. The only thing I think that plagues it a little bit is it plays softer. It's kind of like those early JJPs, the early spooky, early American pinball stuff. I would like to see just a little snappier. Turn that coil power up a little bit. Sure, that's fair. That's fair. But I was impressed with a lot of stuff what they did. Their board set. I liked what I saw. Very clean. Very clean Yes I would agree Hey Greg it that time again We going to go over the Flip N Out Pinball Power Rankings We haven't done this for a while. I miss it. We got to get back on this. I miss it too. For those of you that are new to the segment, the Power Rankings for Flip N Out Pinball, essentially what are people inquiring about the most, whether that be with orders or emails or questions. We're going to take the top five over the past week. So that is going to extend from before TPF through TPF and post-TPF. And we're going to go from five all the way to one. And again, this is the top five with one being the most requested, most talked about, most interest in any given game available at Flip N Out Pinball. And at number five this week, Greg, a little surprise, a surprise that I'm proud about, because I've done a little bit of promoting for this because I believe in the product, and that is Big Buck Hunters by Rothrills. And play mechanics. If you want to get some frustration out and shoot some animals, Greg, oh, Greg, you know, whether they're bears or ducks or anything like that, or you want to play some Terminator Salvation or some Walking Dead with some guns, that's an exhausting game to play. Super, super fun. We have them in stock at Flippin' Out Pinball. Email me, Ken, at flippinoutpinball.com if you want some more information. But super fun. Great addition to a game room. It really elevates The Game Room. And coming in at number four, we have Star Wars Fall of the Empire. You know, this one, this one, so it kind of took me by surprise, but then it didn't because Zach had told me a little while ago, Zach was like, man, he's like, have you been following like Fall of the Empire stuff? And I was like, yeah, I mean, a little bit of where he's like, dude, people are like loving this game now. James Cutler Edited by Jeff Tam curso έρkit ENJOY". S iets I mean, that interest is starting to come back around, which I like. I like full circles. Well, and people that have bought the game from us have called excited because they've seen the progression of the code and they're like, hey, I've been playing it lately and it's and it's totally different. You got to try this and this Death Star thing does this and the game shuts down. It's pretty cool. So, yeah, you got some buzz there. So exciting. I like that. It is exciting. Number three on the pinball power rankings, Pokemon by Stern Pinball. No surprise there, Greg. The game came out, you know, what, about three, four weeks ago at this point. Ellie's we're selling all the way upwards to $30,000 and then in the end of the 15 to 18,000 I think you're at 18 to 20 on Ellie's now but you know Ellie's are shipping premiums are shipping pros are already out there people are having a good time there's supposedly some behind the scenes planning going on with how that the whole Pokedex is gonna roll out with the Stern insider connected and potentially and I'm here I can't I can't confirm it but potentially something very massive with Pokemon if you're a fan of the franchise and See, I got a prediction on this. So, Pokemon came out, you know, obviously super strong, hot seller, fell off kind of sharp. You know, but, you know, there has been a little bit of a delay on getting games out slightly. You know, we've started to see some premiums roll out. LE should be rolling out soon. So I think we'll naturally, once games start getting into homes, we'll see a little bit bump in interest. But I still think with a lot of stuff that they're going to do with that, that Pokedex or whatever and everything, I think some of the stuff coming once it gets into homes that code really starts to mature. I think we're going to see a significant bump in Pokemon again to where that probably comes up and takes over our number one spot again. It's an evergreen title. You could probably sell Pokemon for the history of Stern Pinball as a company. You will always be have people coming in. They're looking to get that game. So excellent A++ license for Stern. And then at number two, a classic Medieval Madness Merlin edition. And that, you know, that, that, that's kind of a shocker too. Uh, you know, I felt that, that, that, uh, Merlin's kind of fell up a little bit and all of a sudden, you know, I don't know, nice warm weather, people want to spend some money. Um, but Merlin, Merlin's have really jumped up again on inquiries, you know, gotten a lot of people sold, you know, a couple of pre-order spots and stuff here over the last week. Nice to see that game kind of falling back into this top spots. I've mentioned it before. If you're a new collector or a long time collector or an enthusiast, it's almost like it's a rite of passage. At some point, you've got to own a medieval madness. And if you're looking to get the title, you know, you can get one of the originals, that's fine. But to have all the modern day technology of the RGB lighting, the extended dot matrix display, the topper, the enhanced audio, it's just really, really well done. Yeah, wow. Straight up warranty. You know, you don't have a 30 year old game. So it's, it's, it's fun. It's undeniably one of the better games that have been made in the history of pinball. And that was made by Brian Eddy, who, for those of you that don't know, is now at Stern Pinball. His most recent release was Dungeons and Dragons. So we'll see what's coming up next for Brian. Number one on the list, the, what we think might've just taken Texas Pinball Festival is from Turner Pinball and that is Yukon Yeti. I don't know what else to say. Like there was no interest list Leading into Yukon Yeti because nobody knew it was coming out and that's another unique thing like a lot of times when we have these interest lists built up we can just kind of hit hit go when the game is revealed. This was all kind of happening in in real time the day before two days before TPF that game came out that's when we started collecting sales or deposits I should say and then them taking that game to Texas Pinball Festival just kind of kind of reassured people that either they were happy with their purchase or convince them to potentially take the plunge. And that's your pinball power rankings for March 25th, 2026 with Ken and Greg from Flip N Out Pinball.
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    All right, Greg, that's going to wrap up this episode. Episode 20. Again, congratulations to Flip N Out Pinball Podcast. Here's to another 20, big guy. Try to get to 40 as quick as possible. A couple of notes we want to share here from Flip N Out Pinball. We are in the process of developing a new website and that's going to have our pre-owned game titles and a lot of useful resources for everyone. So if you are used to going to FlippinOutPinball.com, you're going to have an entirely new experience coming later in the year. We'll have a grand opening for that with some fun things going on. And for those of you that have always been like, man, I've been trying to find out what's going on with this, with this use inventory list and I just, I don't like going to Facebook. No problem. It's going to be on the new site. If you do want to get the use inventory list and you're not on Facebook, do this. You can email me ken, K-E-N, at flippinoutpinball.com. Just be like, hey man, can you just send me the used list and I'll just copy and paste it and I'll just email it to you. The problem is the inventory changed so frequently, like there's no two days in a row that seems like where we have the same used inventory, but you know, always, always happy to help. Greg, did you know this? And this was just brought in this morning. Zach gave me this information. Zach's traveling right now, but he wanted us to know that Pokemon LEs, they are now shipping. So if you have a Pokemon LE, yeah, I'm digging that. So if you got a Pokemon LE on order here at Flip N Out Pinball, they are shipping. And guess what else is shipping, Greg? It starts with a P. It's called the premiums. The premium editions are shipping from Flip N Out Pinball. So if you have an LE or a premium on order with us, you are good to go for the most part. Now, if you didn't make the first run, new Pokemon Pro in premium orders, they're currently going to be falling into a May fulfillment. You're going to be going into, you know, May somewhere in that area for new orders that are coming in right now for each of those additions. We currently have a couple of Harry Potter collector additions in stock. This is something that hasn't really happened since the game was released in June, which is kind of cool. Instead of getting on, you know, putting down a deposit and waiting five months, six months, you can just go ahead and you can check out and get your game shipped the next day, the next business day. And depending on where you are in the country, that shipping typically is anywhere between three to four or two to four days. Yeah. Yeah. With FedEx Freight, it's great. I mean, it's very, very fast. You're not waiting weeks and weeks for freight, which is nice. We do have a couple extra arcade spots. That's the $9,999 edition, and those are going to be coming in April. So if you're looking to get that that entry level Harry Potter, April is going to be the time frame for that. Yukon Yeti, we've mentioned it all throughout the episode. We still have spots available, so you can go ahead and contact us and you can get a deposit down for Yukon Yeti. The deposit is $2,000 on Yukon Yeti with the balance due when the game is ready to ship. We don't have the shipping timeline yet, so as soon as we get that, we'll post it on the website. Houdini 100 Anniversary Edition. We potentially have one additional spot that we think is going to open up on Houdini. So if you're thinking that you want to grab one of those with the Chris Franchi artwork and topper, Go ahead and reach out Ken or Greg at flippingoutpinball.com and we'll reserve that for you. Consider your trade with flipping out pinball and this is where Greg comes in. Greg, you're the big man on campus with the trades. Yeah, if you guys are looking for a trade, please make sure to send me over some detailed photos of the game, including a picture of the shooter lane, the lifetime play count, your phone number and your address. I love that. We're going to be doing a nice and efficient job of kind of wrapping everything up in a nice neat package that includes, you know, potential shipping both ways, an out the door offer. And more times than not, Greg, I noticed people are excited. They take advantage of the trade in and they get their brand new game. Oh, it's super nice. And we utilize our specialized crate system. That's right. For more information, contact Greg at greg at flippingoutpinball.com. I love, like when you go into this, like, I know that it's marketing voice. I want to do like a whole episode like that and only like that. We're down to the final, final version of, or the final in stock product, Iron Maiden The Last one in stock. Star Wars Comic Pro. One more in stock. Funhouse Remake, Classic and Ellie. One of each of those. And then Queen. One more in stock. Somebody's going to jump on that Iron Maiden. And as a personal housekeeping for us, a couple of quick things. If you're into that sort of thing, if you've been following us on Facebook or, you know, checking in on the Facebook page, could you do us a favor? Click the follow button on flipping out pinball podcast. We're at 1.6, 1,600 plus followers on Facebook, which I think is pretty cool. We appreciate that. We're over 500 subscribers on YouTube. YouTube's interesting for us because we just upload our audio podcast over to YouTube with a thumbnail image. So we don't have any video. Now I've been speaking to Greg and Greg's been speaking to me. We're going to start rolling out some video episodes because I think it's just, you know, adds a little level of, of personality to these episodes. They'll be coming up on YouTube. So if you don't mind, go to youtube.com, search Flippin Out Pinball Podcast, hit that little subscribe button. It's free. You don't have to worry about it. You'll be notified a new episode. Just be honest with the people, Ken. Ken comes in and Ken goes, Hey, Greg, can we do video this week? I'm like, no, Ken.
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    Can I be honest? Like, I don't I don't like I got a face for podcasting, audio podcasting, guys. So I'm not looking to get out there. You got a face for audio. I just say so it's so weird because we record early in the morning. There's different things depend on what's going on in my day. It's like, OK, I've got to set up lighting. I set up the camera and I gotta get in the shower. I gotta make sure I look decent. So it's like- Right, you don't want to look lazy about it. Yeah! If you're gonna present yourself, I get it. I get it. So it's like, oh man, yeah, man, shit. No, I can't do it today, Ken. I can't do it today. And then Ken's like, okay. And then Ken's like, next week, he's like, can we do a video? I'm like, no, no, I'm secretly in them. Well, no, no, I'm secretly in them. When you say no, I'm like, all right. I'm like, yes, I don't have to do anything. It's like, I don't matter. But we do see the importance of it and we do think it would be fun. You know, a little behind the scenes when when we do the podcast, Greg and I, we usually record, I think, typically on on Wednesday mornings and it's usually around nine o'clock central. We record until about ten thirty. I'll edit the podcast from about ten thirty to maybe twelve, get socials and everything ready, and it's usually out by one o'clock. So that's kind of like the cadence on every other Wednesday when we do an episode. So, you know, we'll we'll see what happens. But if I had to make a prediction, I would say that you will see some video podcasts coming out in April and that you will not see a magic trick from Greg until potentially. Oh, burn it out there. Let's go. And then finally, if you want more of this kind of fun banter, little back and forth, some, you know, backstage pass stuff, you can go to Patreon dot com. It's P-A-T-R-E-O-N. Type in Flip N Out Pinball Podcast. You can join for free there and just hang out. We got stuff going on almost every single day at Patreon and we appreciate all of our Patreon supporters over there. But that's it brother. I will see you here in a week or two unless another game drops, which is, you never know, is very possible. But again, appreciate doing 20 awesome episodes with you and I'm looking forward to the next 20. For Greg Bowen, I am Ken Cromwell. Don't forget to take some time out of your day and play some pinball. So long everybody.