Deep Dive: Star Wars (Stern) PREVIEW

Pinball Party Podcast·podcast_episode·5m 32s·analyzed·Mar 30, 2024

Analysis

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TL;DR

Pinball Party examines Stern's Star Wars pinball as polarizing game with major IP but initial negative reception.

Summary

The Pinball Party Podcast hosts discuss the Stern Star Wars pinball machine (designed by Steve Richie and Dwight Sullivan), examining its themes, mechanical features, and initial critical reception. They compare it to Game of Thrones and note that both games faced significant community backlash upon release despite their massive IP licenses. The episode covers Star Wars's production tiers (Pro, Premium, LE) and the evolution from Stern's earlier hardware to Spike 2 platform.

Key Claims

Star Wars pinball was designed by Steve Richie and Dwight Sullivan
high confidence · Host (Zach Sharp) stating design credits directly
Star Wars was released in 2017
high confidence · Zach Sharp providing explicit release date
Star Wars came out after Game of Thrones and faced similar initial community negativity
high confidence · Host comparing reception and timeline of both games
Star Wars has three original tiers (Pro, Premium, LE) plus two comic-themed versions released two years later
high confidence · Zach Sharp detailing production variants
Star Wars featured a ball save mechanism with a metal flap in the right outlane
high confidence · Host describing specific mechanical feature
Star Wars represents one of Sam Stern's most polarizing games of all time
medium confidence · Opening statement characterizing game's reception
The Star Wars ball save mechanism is pointless compared to early solid-state kickbacks
medium confidence · Host opinion on mechanical feature utility

Notable Quotes

“This is the biggest franchise arguably of all time. Let's talk about it on a table with a metal ball and some lights.”
Pinball Party Podcast host @ early in episode — Sets up the contrast between Star Wars' cultural enormity and its translation to pinball
“Star Wars is like a religion to a lot of people. It's just the biggest theme in the world.”
Pinball Party Podcast host @ mid-episode — Establishes context for why Star Wars pinball's reception matters culturally
“it is so let me I just have to People talk about that and I agree it cool It this little metal flap that says Star Wars on it and it a ball save right”
Pinball Party Podcast host @ late in episode — Describes the iconic but divisive ball save feature of the machine
“I think we can both agree it's pointless.”
Pinball Party Podcast host @ late in episode — Shared critical opinion on the ball save mechanism's game design utility

Entities

Star Wars (Stern pinball game)gameSteve RichiepersonDwight SullivanpersonStern PinballcompanyGame of Thrones (Stern)gameZach SharppersonGeorge LucaspersonDisneycompanySpike 2 (platform)product

Signals

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product_concern: Ball save mechanism criticized as pointless compared to early solid-state kickbacks
high · Host directly states the metal flap ball save feature and agreement that it's mechanically pointless
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sentiment_shift: Star Wars pinball faced significant initial community negativity similar to Game of Thrones, despite massive IP license
high · Host: 'initially people just really laid into' the game; comparison to Game of Thrones' negative reception
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design_philosophy: Steve Richie and Dwight Sullivan collaborated on both Game of Thrones and Star Wars, suggesting consistent design philosophy across major licensed titles
high · Both games credited to same designer team; hosts note pattern of initial backlash on both
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historical_signal: Star Wars marked era of transition from earlier Stern hardware to Spike 2 platform before major hitter releases like Iron Man and Led Zeppelin
high · Host: 'era when new sterns were just changing a little from Sam over to Spike 2 and before...serious heavy hitters'
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product_strategy: Star Wars released in multiple variants including Comic-themed editions released two years after original launch
high · Zach Sharp: 'two other models released two years later in art difference alone, the comic Stern Pro and the comic Premium Edition'
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Topics

Star Wars pinball design and mechanicsprimaryInitial community reception and polarization of Star WarsprimaryComparison with Game of Thrones pinballprimaryDesigner credits (Steve Richie, Dwight Sullivan)primaryProduction variants and tiers (Pro/Premium/LE/Comic editions)secondaryStar Wars IP licensing and cultural significancesecondaryStern hardware evolution (Spike 2 platform)secondaryBall save mechanism and game mechanics criticismsecondary

Sentiment

mixed(0.35)— Hosts acknowledge Star Wars as culturally significant and interesting but express critical views about specific mechanical features and initial reception. Tone is conversational and analytical rather than enthusiastically positive; criticism of ball save mechanism and comparison to initially poorly-received Game of Thrones suggests measured skepticism about design quality despite IP strength.

Transcript

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Sup. What's up mef, you gorgeous robot, and what's up to all the pinball party fans out there. This week on Deep Dive, we find out who Luke Skywalker's father is, and we look at one of Stern's most polarizing games I'd say of all time. Star Wars. Heard of it? Created by George Lucas himself, later sold to Disney. You all know what it is. This is the biggest franchise arguably of all time. Let's talk about it on a table with a metal ball and some lights. Beyond seeing the movies and being Star Wars fans as a lot of us are, we both played the This week in Pinball, Franchi newsphtpenduele, the Cypher Star Wars customizable card game in the 90s which, to those unaware, even surpassed Magic the Gathering in popularity for a while and was a very popular customizable card game. It blew up for a minute. So popular. We are apt to talk about Star Wars and Star Wars Pinball even further because both of us are strangely obsessed with this weird hobby. Enough to do not only one podcast but also a deep dive about these games specifically enough of that Zach what are the facts of Star Wars Pinball by Stern Yeah, this is an interesting game. It's from 2017 and it's from Steve Ritchie and Dwight Sullivan. There is three tiers pro premium and L.E., but there were two other models released two years later in just art difference alone, the comic pro and the comic premium. All of these are from the era when new sterns were just changing a little from Sam over to Spike 2 and before you started to have the serious heavy hitters like your Iron Maidens and everything after that, right? Yeah, like Led Zeppelin. Heavy hitters. Is what you're talking about. I'm talking about the real deep cuts like Led Zeppelin. We're just so good. So, you know, it is fascinating, right? When Star Wars hit, if you just want to segue into first impressions. Yeah, sure. And we'll get more on the trims in a bit. But yeah, first, what was your first impressions? It's just such an interesting thing because Star Wars is like a religion to a lot of people. It's just the biggest theme in the world. I mean you know especially in the nineties if you grew up in the seventies eighties or nineties you have some different type of relationship with that theme Whether you know you have a friend Brad who works at Toys R Us who you have trying to get you the rare chase Fig from Power of the Force II in 1996 with a half circle hand Boba Fett Or you are just a guy who likes the movies There a real connection And hilariously When this game came out, I, this came out after Game of Thrones and all of the negativity around all the games empty. Uh, the art is bad. Um, the rules, you know, aren't they're complicated. This is another Steve Ritchie and Dwight Sullivan, and it's another game that initially people just really laid into. I, everybody, I think, Finckoah Madduyn projections win Yeah I mean You get the mechanical Sure It a thing right It is It there But it is so let me I just have to People talk about that and I agree it cool It this little metal flap that says Star Wars on it and it a ball save right So when a ball comes into the right out lane it just says nope go into shooter lane and then it launches the ball The only difference between that and the Pro I'm just saying that the gate mechanism is that kickback to the early solid state. It's a lost mech. But I think we can both agree it's pointless. Yes. Yes. The hyperloop is— To hear the remainder of this fantastic episode and more, join the rest of the nincompoops at patreon.com slash pinballparty. See you later.