Saturday Morning Spectacular - January 11

Kaneda Pinball Podcasts YouTube Lives·video·1h 28m·analyzed·Jan 12, 2025

Analysis

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TL;DR

D&D praised but overpriced now; wait 6mo for $7.5k Premium; Spooky next game bigger than Goonies.

Summary

Kaneda hosts Saturday Morning Spectacular with guests including Christopher Franchi (Spooky Pinball artist). Key discussion: Dungeons & Dragons is receiving positive community reception and strong code depth; Kaneda recommends waiting 6 months for Premium price drops ($7,500) rather than buying at $9,500 now as King Kong releases will depress the market. Franchi confirms Goonies is NOT the next Spooky game and teases something bigger. Critical assessment of D&D LE cabinet design as poor, Premium as better value proposition. Broader concerns about Stern three-tier pricing model sustainability and market saturation from dealer inventory.

Key Claims

Goonies is not the next Spooky Pinball game; the next game is bigger/better than Goonies
high confidence · Christopher Franchi directly stated on livestream: 'Goonies is not the next game' and later confirmed the next game is 'bigger than Goonies'
D&D Premium cabinets will drop to $7,500 in 6 months when King Kong releases push all prices down
medium confidence · Kaneda predicts based on historical dealer inventory patterns and market saturation dynamics
D&D LE cabinet design is poor/ugly with bad Beholder artwork and hideous translite; Premium artwork is better
high confidence · Kaneda's direct assessment of available cabinet imagery
D&D code is at v0.80 and not yet finished; will improve significantly before final release
high confidence · Kaneda states code version explicitly
Lord of the Rings LE units are appearing for sale on Pinside due to D&D replacing its medieval-themed competitor
medium confidence · Kaneda observed 3-4 LOTR LEs listed for sale in past week; attributes to D&D market impact
Spike 3 is coming soon with expected price hike; Seth has been teasing this
medium confidence · Kaneda references Seth Richtie's recent communications on pricing
D&D is probably the best Stern game since Jaws
medium confidence · Kaneda's opinion based on code depth, creative modes, and theme integration
Chicago Gaming Company is the worst communicator in pinball; will not support their company
high confidence · Kaneda explicit personal position statement regarding CGC's communication failures

Notable Quotes

“Goonies is not the next game.”
Christopher Franchi (Spooky Pinball) @ ~17:15 — Direct confirmation of unannounced Spooky title roadmap; screens will be captured for industry news
“It's bigger than Goonies, all right? That's even better!”
Kaneda @ ~17:30 — Host emphasizes significance of next Spooky announcement; indicates high-profile IP
“I would just wait. The code's not done. It's at v0.80... By the time the code is done, you're then looking at a savings on both the Premium and the LE of at least $2 to $3,000.”
Kaneda @ ~32:00 — Market guidance on D&D purchasing strategy; reflects broader concerns about Stern pricing model
“I think the D&D to get is, in six months, the Premium for $7,500. Stern's gonna make unlimited Premiums.”
Kaneda @ ~29:45 — Price prediction tied to dealer inventory saturation and King Kong market impact
“I think the LE is not a good LE. I don't like the LE... I just think they failed the whole LE. I really do.”
Kaneda @ ~22:50 — Critical assessment of Stern LE strategy; questions long-term desirability of cabinet design
“Lord of the Rings pinball... is just probably one of the greatest pinball machines of all time.”
Kaneda @ ~20:30 — High praise for competitor product; illustrates why D&D may cannibalize LOTR secondary market
“I do not like Chicago Gaming Company... they are the worst communicators in all of pinball.”
Kaneda @ ~58:00 — Explicit industry criticism; indicates broader community frustration with CGC delays
“There's a dichotomy of we're really excited about D&D and Evil Dead... and we're really excited about the return of a lot of magic and theme integration and depth of code and creativity.”
Kaneda @ ~18:45 — Frames positive sentiment shift toward deeper game design; opposes simpler/cheaper tier trend

Entities

Kanedaperson Christopher FranchipersonSpooky PinballcompanyStern PinballcompanyDungeons & Dragonsgame Evil Deadgame King Konggame Lord of the Rings

Signals

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business_signal: Stern's three-tier (Pro/Premium/LE) pricing model may be unsustainable; Premium/LE price convergence reducing LE differentiation value
high · Kaneda argues Premium will reach LE pricing in 6 months; questions LE design investment vs. collector appetite
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business_signal: Chicago Gaming Company experiencing severe communication failures on product delays; Kaneda declares refusal to support company due to transparency issues
high · Kaneda directly criticizes Josh Sharp's response to delay complaints; will not purchase CGC products
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event_signal: Pinball at the Beach scheduled Super Bowl weekend (Feb 7-9) in Florida; features major designers and content creators; Kaneda prefers venue over TPF
high · Kaneda discusses logistics and guest list (Gomez, Richie, Hardy, Yeti)
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sentiment_shift: Positive reception to D&D code depth, creative modes (e.g., stealth-based guard-avoidance mechanics), and theme integration
high · Kaneda cites multiple streamers and community feedback praising D&D as best Stern since Jaws
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competitive_signal: D&D positioning as medieval-themed game to compete with Lord of the Rings; stronger code/mech execution expected to cannibalize LOTR secondary market
medium · Kaneda's market analysis connecting D&D release to LOTR LE depreciation
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Topics

Dungeons & Dragons pricing and buying strategyprimarySpooky Pinball next game announcement (not Goonies)primaryStern three-tier (Pro/Premium/LE) pricing model sustainabilityprimarySecondary market price predictions and dealer inventory saturationprimaryD&D cabinet art design criticism and quality assessmentsecondaryEvil Dead vs D&D design and aesthetic comparisonsecondaryChicago Gaming Company communication failuressecondarySpike 3 platform and expected price increasesmentioned

Sentiment

mixed(0.55)— Positive toward D&D code depth and creative modes; positive toward Evil Dead and Spooky design direction. Negative toward D&D LE cabinet aesthetics, Chicago Gaming Company, and broader industry pricing dynamics. Defensive regarding personal trolling/drama. Mixed on Stern's strategic direction (quality improvements offset by pricing concerns).

Transcript

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we are live coming at you from in overpriced Garage in reden Connecticut paying over sticker all the homes here they go in one day for hundreds of thousands over sticker and We complain about pinball prices people I mean imagine if this community looked at the real estate market how insane it would be I'm not I'm not gonna go tell people anymore that we're doing the Saturday Morning Show on YouTube it's where we're doing it every Saturday morning so people either stumble in or they miss it that's it I'm done I'm done promoting this thing it's like the easiest thing to figure out every Saturday roughly around 10 a.m we're gonna do this madness how's everybody doing what's up we got Jeremy Brian ah what's with the pink workout pants man the ski pants they're snowboarding pants because it's snowed here it's snowed here um they're baggy they're a little tight in the ways I got to break them in a little bit but I think that's because they don't you're not supposed to get snow down your pants when you're snowboarding everybody how you doing look look you know what's funny is people were like I'm tired of you telling people to work out when you do your doct Phil stuff I turn you off I don't want to hear life lessons from Canada I'm done with you well you know anyone who's offended by me telling people to go work out and get in shape and take care of your bodies more than your pinball machines probably should be hitting the gym all right because those people who who get inspired by it and go work out and put in the hard work so you look 10 years younger than you really are those are my those are my people ah what's up Bri you got a few inches of snow yeah man I woke up this morning and it was white out it was really nice not a lot I I I'm waiting for the big snowfall few inches it's not even an inch really just sort of covered everything with some white do you have any celebrities in your town ah Hoda just moved to my parents town you know Hoda from the Today's Show who makes like 20 million a year she just moved into the town where my parents live where I grew up in Bronxville New York not the Bronx I've spent my whole life correcting people they're like where where you from I'm like Bronxville they're like oh yeah the Bronx you know someone said to me I I was shopping and and she goes yeah did you eat at any good Italian restaurants in the Bronx and I'm like I I don't think you understand Bronxville is a square mile it's not the Bronx uh it's a much different town so uh yeah grew up my whole life everywhere else in America when you say Bronxville they just think it's like part of the Bronx uh in this town celebrities I don't know I mean I'm sure there's some I look I'll tell you this there might not be famous people in these towns but there are rich people in these towns and I mean the kind of money that is even past what a lot of famous people have because you know you're talking there's like 8 million homes $20 million homes $50 million homes you go into grenage you got $150 million homes it's crazy it's crazy uh what do we got here so Jay hendris red light ground ing breathing exercises okay yeah Mr Don Brenda has been waiting for a few white inches too yeah that's okay now we're now we've crossed over into the realm of inappropriate and we're only three minutes into this show Stephen Tyler lives in my town in Massachusetts okay that's awesome Brian man that's do you ever run into him do you ever see any of his cars doesn't Stephen Tyler have like an awesome car collection I he used to have one of those like crazy what was the car company name I I think it was I think it was like saline made that crazy super car that looked like an extended Lotus Elise and it had like a th000 horsepower Mr franie in the house welcome Christopher welcome to the best and only and possibly worst Saturday Morning Show about pinball where we talk all things pinball uh I actually I actually am excited that we're sort of we're getting close we're getting close to pinball on the beach I don't know should I go to pinball on the beach you I'd rather go there than tpf I have to be honest like if I had to choose between going to warm Florida where the entire thing is sort of set up to be by the pool drinking fro in cocktails with pinball personalities out in the sun you know I don't care about the games I don't you know and I know all the games are going to be there but I would rather do that and they're not even paying me to say this I know Ed is doing this show I would they they haven't reached out they haven't asked me to show up I I'm apparently I'm I'm not at the same level as Carrie Hardy who gets he get he gets actually put into the show program as a legendary pinball personality Gary congratulations Christopher franie also gets top billing zombie Yeti George Gomez like you know all the usual characters Steve Ritchie is gonna be there Canada going is always like I I think I make people nervous it's not just because of my good body trust me that's not what they're nervous about it's like well if he goes how's that going to make these people people feel now franie I I saw franie at Expo and and everybody knows this when you go to a show and you walk around everyone's just having a good time right there's no real drama there's no beef there's no fighting there's no nothing you know when I went to Expo and they tried to kick me out last year and I I know people saw like David fix saw me and then went to Rob Burke to kind of escort me out and Melvin saved me because he told him if you kick him out I'm leaving with my games that's what happened it it was it was unnecessary even after everything David fix did to me I just saw the guy and said hey David and walked on like it's it's over it's bygones it's it's just I don't know what am I gonna do I'm not gonna fight the dude I'm not gonna threaten the guy I'm not going to cause a disturbance is it's his show of course I'm going to respect his show you know and that was the part when I got booed at the tppy right by CJ and I'll never forget that he he didn't show any respect to all the people who organized the show and all the hard work and he actually like just made himself look foolish not can e it because I still won the award um but yeah so I don't know pinball by the beach is anyone going besides franie here I I think I think it's going to be fun I think it's going to be fun I don't it's coming up fast though the thing is it's Super Bowl weekend I don't know who decided to do it Super Bowl weekend and that is not ideal it is like the weekend of February it's like 7th 8th and 9th something like that and and the only reason I say that is you know you could still get back in time for the Super Bowl I just think traveling on Super Bowl weekends a little bit you know even though it's in New Orleans and this is in Florida um I don't know I don't know I think um I'm gonna have to float this one by Brenda uh it would be nice I will say this it would be nice to one day actually get invited to be at a show where they actually take care of my accommodations I've never had it happen now I I will say this whenever I go to tpf I would always share a hotel room with Robert Blakeman dumil love Robert Blakeman he's a artist you guys know Robert Blakeman his work has been on a few games he did the logo for a lot of tpfs he also did the artwork um for he did he did an art package for spooky when they did that sort of Space theme game that never came out he's also working with barrels of fun right now Robert Blakeman is uh Robert Blakeman is like one of my really really good pinball friends uh I love Robert Blakeman he did the new tppy logo as well so yeah it's got that kind of like Cosmic sort of retro Vibes going on did everybody vote in the tppy I asked Colin he said voting is about to surpass I think I think he said it's about to surpass what it did last year but now that I think about it I'm like yeah but like nobody really voted last year did they like last year's trippies was like an Abomination uh but I look gang here's the deal vote vote I'm I'm disappointed that Evil Dead art package was not even eligible Christopher Franchi you know how I feel on this I said it should have been I think it's ridiculous it's art it's done it's going on the game it's the best art package this year so yeah why not why not I guess we're going to have to have Fran Goonies competing against franie evil dead oh he said it he said it and franie is not going to chime in here and say I franie could he he's been known to do this uh he's been known to say I will tell you right now the next spooky game is not Goonies that's not confirming they don't have Goonies but he see he's not gonna say it he's right out watching him Goonies is not the next game okay he said from spooky damn it um um damn it what is well that's good that's good um screen grab this every buddy Jay send this to Jason nap let him get uh let him put this up as a story and by the way guys I you know I um I actually I actually it's bigger than Goonies all right that's even better all right so okay every screen grab that just let's just keep screen grabbing everything franie says and we'll get more news out of this show in just 11 minutes uh than than all the other podcasters combin so this is good this is good um look I'm excited I think that spooky is in a really great position let's just talk about the um The Vibes of pinball right now all right I I think there's some really really sort of there's a dichotomy happening you guys know what dichotomy means right I don't have a very big vocabulary so I use some big words frequently like anain and dichotomy and ancillary right okay I wish I had a bigger vocabulary but dichotomy which means like there's two opposing things happening I think there's a dichotomy of we're really excited about DND and Evil Dead and we're really excited about the return of a lot of magic and theme integration and depth of code and creativity with mechan isms beautiful beautiful games I well well let me let me let me step back a little bit I I think D and D's art is a Miss I all of it all of it I I think I know they use like legendary DND D art yeah but maybe that guy's good at making $10 DND D booklets but I just think the art and DN D really comes across as looking pretty AI generated pretty flat looking pretty boring it's just boring it's just it's I think that's like the best word it's just not interesting and then I look at Evil Dead artwork and it's Dynamic it's got energy it's colorful and what I love about franches Evil Dead it it just it's all it's all beautifully mixed together like it just has such cohesiveness is the word I'm looking for look see I struggle for the big words Evil Dead just looks so good and I love that each side is different artwork but then you've got like that you know the color palet carries over into the apron into the Playfield into the backbox into the translate and it's why and I mean this when I say this it's why I almost prefer the franchy TR the not the franchy top over the other topper because again like I get that that topper is neat but I think the franie topper artistically fits in better with the game versus that like puppet guy popping up and down I mean that I absolutely mean that I actually prefer that franchi topper uh so I think if you get if you get the game and then you get the I would get the butter cabinet and I would get the franchy topper I don't I don't think you know I get I look I get that that topper pounces up and down and it's $1,300 but I don't know so here's the thing here's the thing the the Dungeons and Dragons sort of um the the feedback from the community has been really good it's been really good and it's it's like all right you know I feel like everyone's sort of vibing like that with d and d like all right all right all right like like we like what you did here Stern like we we really think there's a lot of depth in the code we really like the passion that went into the project we like what you did with the dragon uh it feels like Brian Eddy's best Stern game to date for sure there's a reason why gang if you go on pinside why do you think I we've seen three to four Lord of the Rings L have popped up for sale this this past week I want to stay on this why is that I I think that's the result of Dungeons and Dragons a new medieval themed game is out that is gonna have probably you know better shooter better mechs now look nothing nothing that D and D has so far that I've seen from a code perspective looks nearly as exciting as the moments in Lord of the Rings Pinball it's just it's just not there right it's just you just can't Lord of the Rings pinball the way it recreates the iconic scenes from the movie is just probably one of the greatest pinball machines of all time if we were to rank games by moments of wow and the way the mechanisms integrate with those moments of wow and also would be up there with greatest call outs in the history of pinball best multiballs in the history of pinball feeling like you've achieved something when you get to multiball is is another great element of Lord of the Rings where it falls down is the art package on the cabinet is kind of atrocious it's got the hair you know di on the glass mirror glass translate but it had real mirrored glass gang not the cheap stuff you're getting now it also uh is clunk it it's just clunky there the upper left path of the Dead is a really just useless area of the game but the sword ramp is awesome ball Rog is incredible and you know you got the the ring which is just one of the greatest Mech sterners ever made so yeah I just think that um you know I I think that we're seeing those Lord of the Rings pop up for sale because of DN now I talked about which DN would I get you know we got the pro the premium and then you've got as we know we've got the um what do we got we got the leie right okay so right off the bat the Ellie I think is not a good Ellie I I don't like the Ellie I think the what the beholder the guy on the right side is really hard to look at I get he's a main figure but I I don't like how he looks I don't like the colors against the red armor I don't find the Flaming red fire on the armor to work really well in in comparison to what's on the art like the imagery on the cabinet doesn't really connect with that armor I don't like really red armor unless it's really like a Deadpool or something where like red makes total sense I I get what they're going for and red is a D and D color I just think this cabinet is ugly I think the translate is hideous and you're going to be looking at that translite artwork more than anything and I just I just think they Fel the whole Le I really do it does look like Monsters Inc and and I just I don't know I just don't like the Le I don't think this is ever going to be an Le that is highly sought after that looks good in a lineup and is going to be uh you know in demand so again so and here's the tricky part so take the Ellie off the table then it's like the premium artwork I like better the premium seems to be the way to go and then you're caught in this sort of Quagmire another big word for everybody out there the ragm is this do I drop 9500 on a premium of dndd right now when I know that there's a really really good chance if I just wait six months the Le will be $99,500 see I look look I'm not an idiot in the end yeah I would rather have a 95500 Le than $99,500 premium because in six months these premiums will be 7500 King Kong is going to push all the prices down of everything it just is it's just the way it's going to work so I again I and so what I recommend to everybody see I think the DND to get is in six months the premium for $7,500 Stern's going to make unlimited premiums I I think you're going to be able to get premiums for 7500 let people cuz here's CU gang remember this the dealers are stocking up on these things and they're gonna have unsold inventory and it's not going to make them nervous now but they're going to need to get rid of that unsold inventory to absorb the inventory of the next Stern game so I would just wait the codee's not done it's at 080 by the time the code is done you're then looking at a savings on I think both the premium and the Le of at least $2 to $3,000 the pro is not going to go down two to $3,000 I look the pro to me I don't want it I I just don't want it I think the dragon needs to have all of its features and I don't like the way the dragon and the pro operates for those of you who don't mind that then absolutely that's the way to go for you if you can live with that coil dragon that just Springs up and down and that's it then knock yourself out Pros are for hose that was that that phrase is still true it's still kind of true um but yeah like I also think I you know I've been watching more and more of the D and D gameplay and I I think what's it's going to come down to is how creative they get with the code I was listening to one of the streamers talk about one of the modes and it sounded really awesome and the mode was this you're trying to sneak into the castle I think or or do something sneaky and you don't want to alert the guards to your presence and so in that mode you're trying to avoid hitting the slingshots because that will alert the guards that you are there and that is awesome you know there's just too much lack of creativity I think in how games are coded every single sling and switch and pop bumper and vck everything can do whatever you code it to do and I love it I love when you approach a pinball machine and you're like all right in this mode you're trying to not hit stuff you're trying to avoid that shot G&R has a really fun mode this shall we play a game when you want to hit five consecutive red white and blue shots as you're battling China and the shots turn from red white and blue to you know um yellow and red for China and you're trying to do five in a row or you lose the streak it's fun it's like you know what's funny about GN aromy is like the game's best modes are the simplest wizard modes that you hit at the end of you know the songs which can sometimes just turn into multiball madness and you know they just become too much but I I do love G&R you know have a love hate with it I I haven't seen everything yet in the game I haven't gotten to Sympathy for the Devil I got to the SL solo I've gotten to the you know the world tour wizard mode um destruction Derby demolition derby whatever I don't really I don't that's kind of like my least favorite one battling the robot too those two uh you know bringing down the wall and the Chinese Democracy wizard modes are the best or mini wizard modes uh just more satisfying so D and D is going to be a lot of I think fun code and I think the way the game is right now that you know you're you're kind of excited there's going to be 40 plus modes and all these different ways to go and it's still very nerdy it's still very DND D you know like the the skeletons popping up on the screen and some of the animations are kind of you know like ah some of them are cool some of them are neat some of them are not as much but all in all probably the best Stern game to come out since jaws and you know Sterns uh Stern's an interesting point right now Spike 3es around the corner um it's around the corner we're all anticipating a price hike I think Seth has been talking in a way that is like teasing that yeah hold on a second I got to turn I got a little portable heater on you can see it's right here it's right there and I'm going to turn it off because I got these snowboarding pants on and it's you can see on oh too hot it's not as cold out this okay I've never seen a 50-year-old with worst taste in clothing I'm not 50 so there's that and in Berg humperdink um I don't think you understand brother I have fun with fashion and let me just first of all don't insult someone's attire until you show us what you look like man and you're not even you're not even using a real name your name's not inberg humperdink which is from what Princess Bride so here's the thing about clothing brother I dress for the occasion this is my fun sort of Canada sort of Vib in out neotokyo sort of look I'll go into a Michelin star restaurant brother Purple Label double breasted Ralph Lauren like suit looking great looking like a million bucks I I go to a wedding looking like a million bucks so like it is what it is I know this though ink leberg you would never you would never let us see who you are and that's the difference between that this not 50 yet with horrible taste and clothing and you know random dude with a fake name on the Internet so you know if you want to uh if you want to share us a link to your uh to your best look let's do it and I we we could go outfit for outfit yeah inle engleberg humperdink um you know he's he's the king of a cargo shorts probably I dress my age what does that mean engleberg what does that mean you dress your age what does that mean so you dress like [ __ ] what does that mean you dress your age that doesn't make any sense what age what age should we stop having fun with clothes is that so I bet you drive a boring car what does that mean your your age does that is that do you guys subscribe to that that at a certain age you have to start dressing and wearing like L end and go into like Vineyard Vines and and stop having fun with your clothes you you basically just told all you dress like a chump because I'll tell you this like when you say you dress your age yeah you probably are just like a scared insecure old man who can't have fun still so like I don't care you think I care brother I don't care I'll walk in anywhere and as long as I feel good about how I'm how I'm rolling through life I don't care see the I I do have issue with that whole dress your age dress your age Act Your Age act your what does that mean what does that mean okay I I would love to know I would love to know what that means well look ink leberg like let me ask you a question so as part of being your age first of all what's your age let's let's stay on this for I love this I love this what's your age what's your age let let's get him like I I wish we could um you know go live and share screen but inberg let's let's you got you got my attention brother you youve derailed the show with an insult you got my attention how old are you how old are you just let let's keep it on inberg Humper dink all right so like he won't we're waiting on his age how old is he let's see how old he is how old do you think this guy is I'm the age where I don't choke my girlfriend in public oh wow okay wow wow well there's um there's the um let's just ban this loser now all right see like inberg you got to learn to troll better and and I didn't choke my girlfriend which is my wife you effing loser you you're such a loser you're you're done bro you're done here we go he's removed oh wait we got to we got to ban this guy hold on hide user on this Chan yep he's gone all right he's gone wow like see see like there's an art to trolling there's such a like I like there's such an art to trolling and like he just crossed it so fast like like it's just funny to me like you got to learn how to like subtly dig and like wow like whoever that guy is right it's like we were we were almost willing to accept the fact that maybe I should dress my age right we were almost there with him and then he had to go and I know what he's referring to he's referring to the's he's one of these tournament Players he's one of these like people that are still living in the drink throwing incident with Timmy seon like where I just choked choked I choked Bren go back and watch the tape people all I did was simply push Brenda back a little bit that's it Brenda has hit me 10 times harder with with some Haymakers people not because I did anything she's an Irish badass woman unbelievable that's funny it choked her out I choked yeah I I I'm I'm I've assaulted a woman never in my life have I assaulted a woman that's funny that's funny I was raised right my mama will tell you Canad you're a spiffy dresser for your age can I please stay in the chat you can Mr Don no it's funny it's like weird that guy's been trolling for a while and I didn't think he'd go out with you know so quickly like that that's interesting yeah right I'm the a I'm I dress my age um those Neo geoc cabinets play mvs cards yeah of course they do what do you mean that's all that's an mvs system cu these are these are the authentic Real Deal these things are um these things are awesome and H gang look you know I don't understand why people get mad was that Don or Jenis I don't know dude I haven't I haven't listened to Don or Jenis in in like forever in a day I didn't even realize I was on this Discord chat yesterday I don't think it was one of Don's chats but I didn't realize it was some Australia in gaming chat and I just started throwing some gaming pictures in and I I didn't know if that was his or not so I just took the messages down but it's like I'm not here to troll anybody else's content I don't go on anybody else's pages I don't insult them on their Pages you know I I it's weird it's always weird to me it's like I don't make anybody hang out here uh and and I wouldn't roll into anybody's page and start firing insults it's just like what you have nothing else to do with your time and what's funny about inkle Berg humperdink is like whoever that loser is he's spending his time on here insulting me I yeah so I'm just like winning I'm like living rentree in that guy's head so and and like now he knows like you know like he just he couldn't he could like he just he just he just got triggered right away by Canada and my pink pants I'm the pink pancer baby Brenda got me these after I choked her out I can't I can't wait to tell Brenda that that she got choked out amazing right after I choked her out she decided to marry me and have two of my children that's crazy that's crazy how low her standards must be it it's funny it's funny people are like people are crazy on the internet um all right what about cgc py remakes all right I love it let's get back let's get back on track okay here's the deal here's the deal I do not like Chicago gaming company I said it I don't want to support Chicago gaming company and my reasons for that are obvious I think they are the worst commity communicators in all of pinball and Josh Sharpe's smug comment on my smug comment just rubbed me the wrong way it it was just like really bro like you think this is funny that people waited so long and you never communicated that the wait would be that long and you I I just think it's sad I think it's bad business and I again it's nothing personal Josh and whoever is over there Doug and the you know the folks over at cgc I just won't support them and I won't buy anything from them now you could say look you're G to be missing out I don't care I don't want Pulp Fiction now I did two years ago I don't want it now I don't want a Twilight Zone remake I never will and and I just don't care about remakes of old games anymore I just don't care even if look if padr remakes toaden it's not going to be as good or built as good as the B Williams toen and I think that that's where I'm at with it I don't think the funh housee Remake like look like how look at the funh house remake pinside page it's got like two pages maybe three pages I I just don't think that people care there's no way the games are flying off the shelf you know gang I got to do it again get ready I got to take a little five minute bathroom break you know what it is is that these pants are so warm it's like warming everything up down here and I'm drinking my coffee I gotta go I gotta go real quick I'll be right back right back right back franie keep them keep them keep them engage keep them entertained um look uh what else what what can I say uh like guys everybody go shop for some clothes that are so you can dress your age right so go go buy clothes that indicate how old you are I'll be right we're back you know I think I think inkle BG humperdink might also be on my patreon channel I'm gonna have to ban him there too I think I'm good I think I'm good I might have to go again oh man choking women wow weird weird Vibes today right um I know I know I'm still feeling a little I might have to run again I might have to run again I don't think I don't think I it's just coffee it's running through me you know like Ian it's it's like the the haters again there's an art form there's an art form to trolling and you just don't want to because here's what the trolls do Ian and you know this what they're doing is this and and it and it's it's like you know there's like a small circle of real Canada haters that can't they can't go on without knowing what I'm going to say because I think I'm going to talk about them or they want to see me get like riled up right they I'll use like the analogy of what they're looking to get out of me it's sort of like when you take a dog and the dog's Behavior will be what it'll be how you treat the dog will be how it behaves so the real short story is this take a dog that's not a bad dog but chain it to a fence and the dog's going to bark because it wants to be free and then the owner might point at the dog and say see that's why I have to chain the dog to the fence look how it's behaving but it's only behaving that way because you chained it to the fence and what these haters try to do or trolls is they want me to behave in away so they can point at me and say hey see look that's why he's a bad guy that's why he's bad for this hobby that's why he's bad for this community see what he did there and it just it just doesn't work and the only person that can cancel me is me right that's why I don't do like drunken stupid stuff anymore right when's the last time you saw me get drunk and do something stupid in this hobby now look do I still get drunk and act stupid in real life yeah not like not bad stuff but I'm still gonna have a few but you know these people are stuck in a moment and it's like it's that that thing was like six years ago and can you imagine six years ago did did anyone get hurt did anyone get injured did anyone you know what I'm saying it's like ridiculous ridiculous the world in which we live Liv in these guys are frozen in moments they're just jealous Ian I mean that's what it comes down to is like the jealousy think about it like this the jealousy of these haters is that here here's their issue they have all their buddies that are like di hard pinball guys making content every day for no money right they making content every day no money they can't understand why anyone subscribes why anyone pays attention they can't understand any of it their their narrative is that he hates on everything pinball he hates pinball he doesn't play Pinball and then you know for people who listen to my show it's anything but that and the people that don't listen are still stuck in a moment that like they're so off base on the content on the fun we're having on the community that's surrounds Canadas pinball podcast they're just so off on it and and they don't know how to it would you know it would suck being that loser that can enjoy right you can enjoy the provocator you can't you you're I don't like Eminem I don't like Axel Rose I don't like that NWA music I don't like you know two Live Crew like that's what these guys are like they're just so uptight and they dress like it too right that's the thing it's like clearly like if I walk into a room at my age at 48 yeah well I don't know looks like looks like he's more fun than my husband wearing the L's end you know it's say like I look I can see it when I walk around you know these conservative waspy towns and they are like everyone's so uptight like uptight with money that's the weirdest thing to me you have millions and you and you're not even free you're not free you you decide it to look like the catalog of who you're supposed to dress like because you live in a Connecticut town and you have a finance job and you just have you just have to wear that uniform and that's kind of why iess dress like this every now I just don't believe in uniforms of age and uniforms of jobs and like it and look it's got me this far it might not get me much further but hey it is probably not right I mean you can make a real serious argument that I've sort of plateaued in my career professionally because I won't conform to the next layer or level of what it's you're supposed to look like and that's probably true but I also know that I don't want to give up my personal freedoms and my my ability to express myself creatively to be that right if if any of you ever go on LinkedIn and you read the way people talk about themselves and about their the company it's just it's so like ah like nobody it's it's like it it's like these human beings sound like chat GPT and I I don't know but look I'll say this my company been there 12 years they they appreciate me for me and they let me be me right and and look I'm not an idiot I don't walk into a a client meeting like this all right where are we at you should have a 50th party I'm going to Japan for my 50th birthday me and franie are gonna go business class let's do it ah yeah thank you thank you Emanuel Hernandez um with another name I love it I love long names franie do you sell art on your website um okay so here's the thing here's the thing here's the thing let's chip in and buy can some of those huge bottom emo Hot Topic pants with the dangling sup dude I've got the dangling suspenders I've got them here is that what those are um anyway all right so like P again remakes to me are as boring as it gets looking to the Past boring you know what Stern remakes is really where the excitement right like look at Metallica not boring Ghostbusters next I don't know I don't know how they would handle Ghostbusters with the LCD uh TR sorry hicup Tron and GB when when we talk about the games that people want Stern to put on a new platform it's always the same three it's Ghostbusters it's Tron and it's Lord of the Rings that that's like that's it that's it and if I were to add another game in the mix Simpsons maybe ACDC I don't know you know I mean Stern has the the problem Stern has is they got to be careful they got to be careful because every time they do a better remake and they outshine that other game they they instantly burn old customers and they also oversaturate the market because then all of a sudden now you've got all these older Metallica Le and I know some people out there right now might have both of them side by side but that's not going to last too long you're going to want to get rid of the old one you're not going to want to play the old one when you have the new one well I'm just excited that franie has seeming confirm that Spooky's next game is not The Goonies and it is bigger than The Goonies you know I feel like it's Beetle Juice then will you tell us it's not Beetle Juice like I feel like it's got to be Beetlejuice then I feel like it's got to be Beetlejuice um is Beetlejuice bigger than Goonies yeah easily I would I would have my vasectomy twice if it was peewee's big adventure right they should make peewee's big adventure and the only way you can get a collector's addition is if everyone gets into a theater and and jerks off I don't know where the show's go today people it's been like I've been accused of choking out my wife I've been accused of not dressing my my age uh all of which would seemingly right someone who's assaulted women who is a horrible dresser is still in the contention as favorite pinball content creator and favorite pinball podcaster has everybody voted in the trippies and and trust me don't just vote once vote um get get your family members to vote don't vote twice I'm not I'm not encouraging you to do anything illegal you know I I always say this like the the committee over there is always in a dilemma because I've won it six years in a row the seventh year didn't count I've usually won by a pretty good margin I I don't know like if I do lose um someone just did a better job campaigning for votes I don't really see people campaigning for votes as much I see you know who always seems to be asking for the most votes it's always like the mod makers they're like so honored to be like guys chill out there's no honor in the twi let's let's can can we call a spade a spade you should you why are you honored to be recognized by the tppy committee oh man yeah they they saw that I made that 3D printed mod and they they put me in the dropdown with the other 75 different dropdown items like it like I'm honored I'm honored ah Ralph is a Stern [ __ ] shill yeah what Ralph went Ralph went full shill and it's unfortunate and not only is has he gone full shill for for stern he's he's also you know I mean he's he's making money from from flipping out to sell games so that's look look he's got like I I it's it's his it's not going to change his views he'll probably get just as much if not more views um I I get zero free stuff I I've been waiting for a a spooky hat and t-shirt that has the boner on it the eggplant boner Emoji I I was told I'd be expecting that one day soon um Ralph has no idea what pinball is it's quite annoying to listen him talking about pinball he's just in amateurs talking about like I I think you could probably just insert Canada into that insult I mean that's kind of what people say about me um retro Ralph could have just stayed in arcades and got more views and made some money he legit loves pinball and makes great content uh did you see the art I did okay so um look I I will say this I give everybody credit who does nicely polished YouTube videos uh raise your hand if you don't do that raise your hand if you don't make nice thumbnail images so it attracts people to your YouTube content raise your hand if you're making no money with any of your pinball content on YouTube I don't know how to do it I tried to turn on the monetization it says I wasn't eligible I don't know like I don't know then I say hey well you could just give money to PayPal and I'll give you guys a shout out but like I I'm kind of happy with where I'm at I think I've kind of plateaued I'm in that like 720 subscribers the most I ever had subscriber wise was like 750 or something yeah if I did more interviews sure franie knows how it is I think only franie knows how much work it is to do interviews how much editing we do to make the person we're talking to to not sound like a fool with um um you know or they pause or they say like like you know you know you know you know you know like the amount of times I've done interviews and then when I go back to listen to the interview it is almost impossible to make it through 10 minutes with the way the person talks you will never know that because the editing that I've done has made a lot of those personalities sound incredible they could never do this like live without all that you get better over time in a way media training this show has helped me become a better presenter it's helped me become a better public speaker it's it helped a lot if you go back and listen to my first shows they're pretty bad I kind of was just emulating a little bit the podcasters I listened to at the time like Nate Shivers and other people but that was kind of like their voice but it's kind of all I knew like you talk about pinball like this check your phone franch my phone oh let me go get it hold on this is great this is great can I share could I share that frie can I share that I'll wear I mean you know look and they say that we're not having fun here I I will wear that that is good that is good oh my god um you know we could end the show right there we won't we have another like a little bit more than a half hour go to go this is fun packing we need to have more fun you ever think about that about like a serious there's a serious contingency in this hobby that sucks like these people take it seriously right it's like it's a weird thing like I I take pinball seriously I'm gonna I'm I'm gonna win that translight tonight I'm gonna go into that league night and I'm gonna I'm gonna beat those people at pinball and win that translate yeah I'm gonna spend hours getting better at this game hours you know when I ask people how could I do my content better you know you hear some people like play more play more play more I get it but then you start to see people people say like get good at games like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and I'm like uh yeah I'm not going to do that that game sucks the game's not fun the game drains on the left side I think it was design wrong and I won't even waste my time why would I waste my time on a game that I consider to be a design nightmare that's no fun and they're like yeah even though the game's not fun to shoot it's really fun if you can if you can like hold on for dear life to get to this mode and then you'll finally understand Dwight's genius in the game and Dwight makes really hard games and and but if you can get there and you get good then you no I don't want to do that I don't want to spend countless hours of my life to overcome a design deficiency in a game that you can't make play properly I'd rather masturbate for all those hours then stay on TMNT to get good enough to overcome the the design deficiencies of the game okay so like no I don't care I don't care I'll take the glass off and use my finger and get to that mode and then I'll go whack off I don't care I don't want to do that for hours and hours and hours and a shitty game don't normally curse a crappy game doesn't become UNC crappy because you spend enough time to overcome what makes it crappy C I'm sorry it's still a crappy game you know and like it should that game like the Borg messed up he messed up you could tell you could tell that game would have been a masterpiece it like it it kills me when you stand over Ninja Turtles it is such an awesome world underglass like there's way more to there's way more going on in Turtles than in D and D but then they went and they absolutely made the game brutal and they made game so not fun to play and it's like why would you make a kids cartoon show that we all grew up with that we love impossible to play it'd be like making the old school four player Ninja Turtle arcade machine really difficult to play right like almost like cuphead difficult to play they they messed up they messed up and it's no fun you see what's crazy to me is like and Ghostbusters is another one it's like if Stern were smart I would go back and fix Turtles go back and fix Ghostbusters make them more fun right make them more fun and nobody wants to get I'll tell you this there's nothing more unsatisfying in pinball than outlane drains that happen all the time without you making mistake can I repeat that the most not fun thing about pinball is just constant outlan drains that happen all the time because of the bad design of the game you didn't do anything wrong you didn't miss a shot you you just you the game is Just designed to fire balls there too often and the and the openings are too large and it's not fun I hate that I I'll tell you this right now in Guns and Roses I lowered the outlane post and it still drains so much in the outlanes in that game I don't want I don't like games where you're like just trying to avoid the slings at all cost and every time you go near the slings you've got to be nudging the machine all over the place I don't like that design I don't I don't and look and I know it's hard I know it's hard I think these companies sometimes have players that are too good and they make them so they're challenging to like Keith elwin good do that and then watch the rest of us not have any fun at all no but lwin games I think are the right balance right Godzilla is not it's not it's not easy but it's not overly punishing same thing with jaws same thing with Jurassic Park they're not easy but they're not you don't feel like they're like unfair um yeah all right I'll send you my address now hold on franie is asking for my address here we hold on I can't write and talk at the same time all right there you go brother thank you uh what do we got here don't give strangers your home address um yeah you know what I've got this is weird like let me show you something I've got two mods here just sitting here hold like I've got these mods that I never I've got I've got a Batman parachute pickup mod and then I've also got the bat signal that I believe I haven't even opened this I believe is has been painted black where the the one in the game comes like silver yeah oh just dropped the washer let me show you this thing let's see what we got here pieces it's the black it's the black bat signal and it's the right bat signal I think the other one's like the wrong medium not large medium medium will be great spooky Speedo that'd be great well so did you guys see the tpf post that I put up that they're indicating that we might get Harry Potter will be at tpf I don't know about you guys but man it's it's mid January almost not quite there yet but it's crazy that we're probably going to see Harry Potter sometime in February March we all know that Avatar sales are abysmal right you guys like you guys all know that right there's did anyone even get can I ask this question has anyone even got their Avatar CE yet did anyone get Speedo small did anyone get Avatar CE anybody like I I don't the game was the game was made the game was announced in October October November December like like four months to get the CES what with this whole first batch going overseas nonsense wh why is that why why would they even get him first like why can't you why why not just make the people overseas wait I don't I don't understand that can someone explain that to me a US product I get that it takes time to get them over there but like okay just let let them wait another couple months get your us customers your main Market The Games first why would you go overseas first I don't I've never understood that we got to get the games to like why why Europe doesn't send us their games first when they make a game in Europe the the first ones are not on a you know on their way to America First make America pinball great first people will lose interest during the long way is the logic can I just can we just say collectively if you bought an avatar CE were were you drinking were you on something did you lose a bet can someone explain to me why you would buy that game for $155,000 knowing that the demand for it is less than Godfather Toy Story and Elton John and knowing that that game is going to be a a 9k game in just a when Harry Potter drops can can how do you guys feel like you're gonna drop 15K Harry Potter is gonna drop and your 15K Avatar is going to be worth like 9k like in an instant and and also if if what I'm hearing is true when you see like a a widebody filled with magical toys Harry Potter how are you going to walk over to your avatar with nothing in it really mean Olaf like why do you like how can you be happy with what they put into Avatar like how like how are you not disappointed as a fan of the franchise because Olaf I know you love Avatar how are you not just so disappointed in the lack of magic in the game like there's not even a single toy there's not even like the black light doesn't even it works it's okay for me like that just sounds like such a defeated like that's just like it's such a shoulder shrug though man I don't care about toys or what do you care about like it like you then it could just be a single level em the colors are nice I care about speed it doesn't play nearly as fast as Elton John it doesn't shoot as good as Elton John it's not even a fast game bro it's not I've played it like there's like it's not a fast and like oh dude and Olaf man nothing kills speed like lower playfields brother I don't know man Olaf Olaf man I feel like I feel like but Olaf let me ask you a question and and I'm serious I hate to keep it on you but why wouldn't you just buy a CE for 10 grand when when it why why do you need to order it right now I Olaf can you answer that like you you do know the way the Market's been going so why why wouldn't why wouldn't you just wait are you in Europe ola Lord Olaf I don't know I I don't know all right you're in Spain man I don't know man I don't know I mean I I guess I guess you have to be rich in Europe to buy pin don't you have to be like really rich in Europe to buy Pinal machines don't you I mean I I feel like yeah man you you need like you need like a few Mill Europe is stupid like I I just couldn't buy something in a region knowing that if I was anywhere else in the world it would be so much cheaper man man it I feel like Olaf though like I feel like it's just gonna hurt it's gonna hurt man because Olaf how much do you have to buy your C4 like how like is it like18 $119,000 how much is it if you live in Spain to unbox Ms unbox at retail and Avatar yeah what's the vat tax brother I don't pay vat why don't you pay vat I have a friend Dro so is your is your Dro friend is he is he breaking the law you know I'm just curious like how can he give you that at that price but the dro has to pay the vat tax all right so I think what's H so okay so here's what's happening here's what's happening Olaf is paying in cash his distro has to pay the vat tax to take the product like there's no you the dro has to pay it so basically I think what's happening is Olaf is basically getting a game at Cost because I bet with vat tax the disto is probably spending somewhere around $155,000 to get the game then does the markup right because he has to do the vat markup and and also his margin so it sounds like you're getting a game where the disto is not getting any margin or profit they're just selling you a game at costs for cash um all that being said Olaf all that being said the game is pretty bad it's just like such a I don't know man you know you don't really see do you guys see Mark ziden anywhere do you feel like they've also like do you see Mark like doing streams getting people excited is it is that happening anywhere I mean that's the one thing I'm surprised about I feel like even Jersey Jack is like just forget it like they they've moved on and I I'm surprised like Mark's a good guy he's a nice guy like I just don't see him out and about trying to drum up excitement for his own game is isn't that weird it's like it's like their only game for sale right now and they really haven't I don't know it's like you can tell like they spent $100,000 on a launch video $100,000 on a launch video and you know they haven't really followed it up with much yeah Jack danger you know I spoke to Jack the other day it's just a brutal thing happening around X-Men right if you if you're following the X-Men conversation it it's just brutal nobody feels good about it still trying to unload gnrs um you know it's it's um I'm coming to tpf in March dude don't Olaf trust me Olaf do this do this Olaf don't fly from Spain to Texas fly to New York City brother I'll pick you up we'll go to Tommy Jazz and the game will be out we'll play the game at automated or we'll do this fly to Chicago and ask to see the game at jjp I want to go all the way to T I'll tell you why man it's like it sucks seeing a new game at a show it sucks you know the fact that Stern invited all those media to play DND and then put them all in a room together with 20 people talking over your shoulder all the games were on at the same time it was the stupidest media moment I've ever seen in pinball because it's like all those media paid money I talked to Colin they spent more than5 $600 out of their own pocket to go sit in a room with 20 other dudes all talking to play a game that they couldn't really hear very well what how is that a great first impression of a game and when you go to a show I would rather go to tpf than New York City um yeah because what you'd rather be in a a middle of nowhere where it's just like strip malls a Perry Steakhouse across the street and like anyone who says they'd either go to tpf in New York City is uh culturally broken seriously how could you like why would you want to be stuck in like this like middle of nowhere there's nothing to do that's always been my issue with like tpf man is like all the shows like you after like a few hours you're kind of like you're exhausted playing the games is not that much fun because of how loud it is and you just kind of are over it I look I think shows I think shows kind of um I wish they figured out a different way to do shows and and here's what I mean by that I I wish that I wish that there was a an opportunity to like have everybody together but also have gameplay experiences that were much more enjoyable than they are at a show look I like Perry Steakhouse gang I mean it's fine it's it's not you know it's it's always where I did my happy hours it's like there's nothing better in that vicinity but you know wolf gangs in New York City on 33rd Street blows it away blows it away blows it away you get to have dinner in Vanderbilts private subway station think about how cool that is like Vanderbilt was so rich he had his own train station with his own like stop that only he could get on and they built a steakhouse inside it that's cool Perry Steakhouse just another one what do we got here I'm reading the chat yeah like I just think um no look everything's not the best in New York City and also like I'll be the first to tell you right now New York City is like kind of going it's going it sucks now like compared to what it used to be Eric Adams is a terrible mayor the um the Democratic city has been run into the ground and it's terrible now you know what sucks about New York City now is they've completely after all the social movements after the defund police New York City has turned into not that much of an enjoyable Place anymore I mean it they and then they allowed all these weed stores to pop up everywhere and the no bail it's really the no Bale Ryan Policky is is what has killed New York City once they did no bail and they let everybody who can commit a crime or do something like they they you know what's crazy about about the Democrats okay and I'm not like a crazy Republican but you know what's crazy about the Democrats they actually think that like no bail is like a fair thing to do like like they're they're actually on the side of the criminals because guess what you don't need to get bailed if you don't commit a crime and you know what they've also done is they they want to decriminalize like think about for a minute they want to decriminalize shoplifting just think about that for a minute you want to decriminalize people walking into drug stores and bodegas and not protect those business owners from shoplifting that is what kills cities and that's what kills your that's what's going to kill them in the elections I'm telling you all this stuff doesn't work out and so then you know when you live in sort of the belly of the you know Democratic run environments how poorly they're they're they they operate it's like come on gang like this is silly it's silly you could push someone onto the subway tracks and if you have no PRI you'll be out on the street in the same day same day you know you know that crazy guy that went around stabbing people in Midtown Manhattan he was like arrested 17 times 17 times how's he on the street anyway you know for the city for me is I I um I go in I go to work I go to Tomy Jazz I go home I I I'm not like I don't Venture around anymore I don't try restaurants I don't care I don't I don't really don't care it it'll come back the city will come back we just need a better mayor the best mayor since I've been in New York City was was Bloomberg Bloomberg's the man he's the man he um you know he he knew how to run a city he knew how to keep New York clean keep it safe guess guess what guess what makes a city safe the police guess what you got to get rid of the people that make a city bad you know what Giuliani did I mean he really is the reason why the city became what it is they bought oneway plane tickets for all the homeless people and they put them on a plane somewhere else I don't know what you do with everybody I don't I don't have the you know the answer is to social um you know social welfare but like I I don't know you know we sent them to La awesome bust them all yeah it's just hold thing anyway Humper dink yeah where is Humper dink where is uming when you need him oh man those fires are terrible I really feel for anyone I have um a coworker whose friend is staying with her they lost their house and it it is absolutely so devastating to see the footage and to see the people that are displaced and you know and it's not it's it it's like entire neighborhoods are wiped out everything gone School the school you went to the house you grew up in the movie theater the you know it it is it is look I you know I don't I don't think anything could have fully prevented it you know clearly they weren't fully prepared for this with all the money there do you see like Paris Hilton like I just saw like images of her house do you see the house from uh the house from that was in seccession the $150 million mansion on the Hills like that beautiful house it's the one where you know the brothers in in the last season where he's thinking about starting his own news corporation it's gone like the whole thing is just Rubble I I've never seen anything like it and you know they said the damages are upwards of 50 billion but like you can't even replace this stuff if any if any of us lost our homes and may we never have to deal with that you can't replace you can't replace this stuff it's it's a it's hell on Earth it will make you a spiritual person absolutely um you know so everybody look what is it January 11th isn't it nuts that we might see Harry Potter in just six weeks I can't I don't know like it just it even feels like are we gonna see Harry Potter in March like that's GNA be upon us very soon I I feel like the game has been done for a while I keep forgetting that like Eric Minor's last game he probably finished in like a weekend right Godfather I I feel like I feel like he threw that thing to together he like yeah man I'm done like let me get on to Harry Potter I hope Harry Potter is a widebody we'll see well I don't really care about two jjps a year I I just I I just want a good jjp all right everybody look we're um I know we've had some bathroom breaks it's football Wild Card Weekend that's going to be fun like Jack is absolutely going to get Harry Potter out before King Kong King Kong's not really scheduled until if we look at normal Stern you know it's like three four it's like three months three and like we we shouldn't January April May for Kong April May um I think um I think Kong is going to be awesome do you think Packer Jeremy's on Kong I do I I if there's a big gorilla with big hands and he like I think Kong could be beautiful if if it's I think what I'm what I'm what I think is going to be challenging with Kong is nailing The Narrative let me end the show on this because here's here's the thing about King Kong that I hope they get right and I'm worried they're gonna not get it right Kong I think where I think they're gonna go with Kong is I think they're GNA be it's gonna be like Godzilla 2.0 I think they're GNA keep the game primarily on Skull Island and Kong battling the different creatures sort of like Godzilla with his battles I don't want really that King Kong what I would love it is a a game that is like some of that but I also think you need to get King Kong to New York City and I think you need to have Kong climb the Empire State Building and I think you need to have King Kong fall and I think you need to have him fall in love with the blonde and I think you need to have you know there's some of those moments in Kong that are just beautiful and and that's see to me the only the only like scene in Peter Jackson's King Kong that I feel like captured that like that tragedy of this this ape that just wants to get back home I mean that's the story of King Kong he just wants to get back home and the Empire State Building reminds him of his home you know up on the mountain the tallest peak and so there's a scene in Peter Jackson's King Kong where he ends up in Central Park and they're like ice skating and he's like having fun on the ice with um with the woman and it's just it's it's like those Beautiful Moments ju toose to the the you know the terrifying moments for Kong where they're trying to kill him and cage him and and take him away from his home so I don't know you know I don't know what they're gonna do I don't know what they're gonna um how they're going to execute it but there's just there's it's a lot more difficult I think with Kong than it is with Godzilla to get it right I'm a little worried that they're going to go more modern like Kong is like you know Monster and just blah blah like you know just Kong and Godzilla like I think it's I think they might just go that route um but that's not you know the iconic Kong anyway everybody look have a great have a great Saturday thank you all for hanging out don't forget to vote in the tppy a moment of silence for engleberg humperdink who came in really hot today and got destroyed he uh I think he's on my patreon I'm going to go see if he's in that chat he's let let me just look right now I think I can look on my patreon right now if inberg Hunker dink is a patreon subscriber or a name and we can 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