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Episode 184 – Loving Lust

Slam Tilt Podcast·podcast_episode·1h 30m·analyzed·Apr 30, 2022
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TL;DR

District 82 tournament recap, COVID chronicles, Johnny Mnemonic glitch discovery, and collection philosophy discussion.

Summary

Ron and Bruce of Slam Tilt Podcast discuss their recent District 82 tournament trip in upstate New York, where they all contracted COVID and experienced lighting/visibility issues with modern games. They cover tournament details, the Deep Root auction disaster, Pirates topper pricing, American Pinball's production delays, Johnny Mnemonic's game-breaking glitch discovered by Kaylee George at finals, and their personal pinball collection wishlists.

Key Claims

  • Rochester Pinball Collective has 50 games and is positioned as ideal venue for World Championships if tournaments continue

    high confidence · Bruce explicitly states RPC location, game count, and makes case for hosting Worlds based on infrastructure (parking, airports, food, AC units)

  • All District 82 attendees (Ron, Bruce, Raymond, Zach, Steph) contracted COVID after tournament

    high confidence · Ron describes infection pattern starting Sunday night with 102 fever, spreading through group over following days

  • Bright LED flashing in modern games (Terminator 3, Game of Thrones) causes visibility issues for Ron during play

    high confidence · Ron states he lost the ball twice due to LED flashing in Game of Thrones and had trouble seeing in Terminator 3 during display effects

  • Kaylee George intentionally exploited Johnny Mnemonic glitch in District 82 finals involving second lock and Yakuza Strike

    medium confidence · Ron describes detailed exploit mechanics but notes dispute about whether George did it intentionally vs accidentally breaking game; George claims accidental

  • American Pinball's next game delayed to October due to production issues; originally were going to be two games

    medium confidence · Bruce mentions production delays with reference to 'Ric Flair and Fallen' affecting Whitewood availability, suggesting single game delayed from two planned releases

  • New Pirates topper costs $2,500 and features Kraken motion mechanics

    high confidence · Hosts discuss new Pirates topper pricing and both express negative sentiment about Kraken motion effects

  • Dragon's Lair pinball homebrew project faced cease-and-desist from Digital Leisure over IP rights

    medium confidence · Ron and Bruce discuss confused situation where builder claims didn't write Kickstarter email, Digital Leisure demanded removal of art after Pinside inquiry

  • The Local Pub and Tea House in Rotterdam/Saratoga Springs area now hosts Thursday league with 15+ games including Cactus Canyon

Notable Quotes

  • “Our ratings were nice and steady. And then when we got off the biweekly, drop.”

    Ron Hallett @ early in episode — Acknowledges podcast schedule affecting listener engagement metrics

  • “I'm just going to do classic tournaments. That's all I'm going to do... No, the flashing fucking sucks.”

    Ron Hallett @ District 82 tournament discussion — Direct complaint about modern game LED effects degrading playability for competitive player

  • “Okay, now for the world premiere.”

    Kaylee George (quoted by Ron) @ Johnny Mnemonic finals incident — George's apparent pre-announcement of glitch exploit before executing it, fueling debate about intentionality

  • “If you do this, you're DQ'd.”

    Tournament TD (quoted by Ron) @ Post-Johnny Mnemonic rules discussion — New tournament rule implemented to prevent repeat of game-breaking exploit

  • “It's a disaster. Did you see the new Pirates topper that came out? $2,500.”

    Ron Hallett @ Deep Root transition to topper discussion — Segue connecting auction chaos to broader industry concern about accessory pricing

  • “Fucking toppers have just gone stupid. Toppers are born in machines. Yeah. What the fuck does that tell you? Stupidity reigns.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ Pirates topper discussion — Critique of aftermarket topper market saturation and cost inflation

  • “I think they've owned the rights forever. Yes, they have.”

    Bruce and Ron (on Digital Leisure) @ Dragon's Lair discussion — Confirms long-standing IP ownership complexity around gaming licenses

  • “At this point, yeah. Okay. I mean that I – See? Gets you thinking now, doesn't it?”

    Ron and Bruce @ Collection exhaustion discussion — Philosophical moment about whether competitive/serious collectors have exhausted desirable pinball catalog

Entities

Ron HallettpersonBruce NightingalepersonKaylee GeorgepersonZachpersonRaymond DavidsonpersonSteph (Pinball Princess)personDistrict 82tournamentRochester Pinball Collectivevenue

Signals

  • ?

    business_signal: Pinball Brothers' Alien machine reliability issues (frequent software updates, dead computers requiring replacement) raising sustainability questions; lack of 'warm and fuzzy feeling' despite responsive support

    medium · Ron questions longevity: 'How long do you think Pinball Brothers are going to be around?' with reference to constant fixes and replacements needed

  • ?

    community_signal: Johnny Mnemonic finals incident at District 82 created controversy over intentional exploitation vs accidental glitch discovery; affects tournament integrity and rule-making

    high · Crowd gathered, game went into endless ball search, affected finals outcome, tournament implemented DQ penalty sign, some accused George of intentional breaking

  • ?

    community_signal: Venue development in Albany/Saratoga area: The Local Pub and Tea House now hosts Thursday league with 15+ games, potentially first such venue outside Level Zero in region

    medium · Ron notes novelty of having 10+ game venue in local area and discusses ongoing leveling/setup issues at new location

  • ?

    community_signal: Rochester Pinball Collective explicitly positioned as ideal World Championships venue with sufficient infrastructure, representing competitive hub development in upstate NY

    high · Bruce details venue capabilities: 50 games, 1959-2022 selection, ample parking, AC, 15-minute airport access, summer weather

  • ?

    product_concern: LED flashing in modern games (Terminator 3, Game of Thrones, AC/DC) causes playability degradation and visibility loss during competitive play; Ron considers retiring from modern tournaments as result

Transcript

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0:00
This is called a mortarboard, and it comes with this tassel, which many graduates save as a memento of their special day. Perhaps some of your older brothers and sisters still have theirs. Oh, yeah. My uncle has one of those hanging on his dashboard.
0:17
Good butthead. He must have saved it from his own high school graduation. Uh, no. He didn't go to high school. He got it off the boob of some chick in a nudie bar.
0:30
Coming to you from beautiful upstate New York, this is the Slam Tilt Podcast, a show about all things pinball. I'm your host, Ron Hallett, here with my co-host, Bruce Nightingale. COVID.
0:50
Yeah, COVID. And this is episode 184, and Bruce is getting over COVID. I am, and all of us are getting over COVID. Well, not me. Well, because you already had it only a month before that. Yep. Anti-body power, baby. Mm-hmm. And you were in the same room with me, and you actually slept. Yeah, I slept right next to Bruce and heard all the snoring. I don't snore. And Ron doesn't think he snores, but he does. I didn't say that. And you definitely snore.
1:19
Yes, we had the – it felt like the old times. Mm-hmm. You fall asleep immediately and snore, and it takes me an hour to fall asleep. At least there's only an hour at a time. Although I slept next to Zach, too, on another day, and he snores also. Worse or same or different? His snoring is more a pattern. Yours is just all over the place. Yours sounds like just bad noises, like something bad is going to happen. My heart attack is finally going to happen.

high confidence · Ron describes local venue setup, game selection, and notes it may be first Albany-area league location with 10+ games outside Level Zero

Deep Root Pinballcompany
American Pinballcompany
Pinball Brotherscompany
Johnny Mnemonicgame
Piratesgame
The Local Pub and Tea Housevenue
Excelsior Pubvenue
Skillshot Arcadevenue
Digital Leisurecompany
Dragon's Lairgame
Slam Tilt Podcastorganization
Silver Ball Chroniclesorganization
WPPR (World Pinball Player Rankings)organization
Allentownevent
Atlanta game pickupevent
Nap Arcadeorganization
Pinsideorganization

high · Ron explicitly states 'flashing fucking sucks' and lost balls twice due to LED effects; expresses preference for classic-only tournaments going forward

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Johnny Mnemonic contains game-breaking exploit via second lock/Yakuza Strike/magnet interaction; debate over intentionality (Kaylee George's announcement vs claimed accident); tournament implemented DQ rule response

    high · Ron describes detailed exploit mechanics; game broke mid-exploit; George pre-announced 'world premiere'; affected finals outcome; new signage posted warning DQ penalty

  • ?

    event_signal: District 82 tournament in Wisconsin experienced weather variation (snow to 60s) and notable competitive moments; used as preview for Allentown tournament coming up

    high · Ron and Bruce framing District 82 as Allentown preview episode; tournament positioned as qualifier/ranking event for upcoming major

  • ?

    leak_detection: Dragon's Lair homebrew pinball project by Italian builder encountered legal friction from Digital Leisure; complicated IP inquiry process on Pinside triggered cease-and-desist

    medium · Ron and Bruce discuss confused licensing situation where builder claims didn't author Kickstarter email; Digital Leisure demanded art removal after inquiry

  • ?

    personnel_signal: Silver Ball Chronicles podcast upcoming episode involving former Deep Root Pinball employee discussing company collapse (identity implied but not named)

    medium · Ron cryptic reference to 'someone who was working at Deep Root' being guest; trying to think of name rhyming with 'J-pop' (likely Janssen or similar)

  • $

    market_signal: Aftermarket toppers market showing inflation and oversaturation; new Pirates topper priced at $2,500 despite mediocre quality and motion mechanics

    medium · Bruce: 'Fucking toppers have just gone stupid... stupidity reigns' in response to $2,500 Pirates topper with poor Kraken motion

  • ?

    product_strategy: American Pinball's next title delayed to October; originally planned two games but consolidated to one due to Whitewood production issues at factory

    medium · Bruce cryptic reference to 'Ric Flair and Fallen' and 'Four Horse' taking out Whitewoods, forcing recovery delay to October release

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Ron expressing collection exhaustion and contemplating retirement from modern competitive pinball due to LED visibility issues; shift toward classic-only tournament participation

    high · Ron states: 'I'm just going to do classic tournaments. That's all I'm going to do' and 'I'm going to retire from pinball' multiple times due to LED flashing problems

    • 1:51
    His is more just steady. The funny thing about him is he was like, you know, I really don't feel that tired. 10 minutes later, he was asleep. It's like, wow, I wish I could do that.
    2:03
    Hi, everyone. We're back. A little longer than last time, unfortunately. Yeah, we keep doing that. It's hurting our ratings, Bruce. I was looking. Our ratings were nice and steady. And then when we got off the biweekly, drop. Yeah. You know? Well, this would be a nice surprise. This would be like a tease towards your Allentown.
    2:22
    Well, this is like the Allentown preview episode. Yes, it is. So let's actually let's get District A2 out of the way for those who love our tournament talk. Yes, right off the bat. Right off the bat. So we went to the District 82 Whopper Farm. Yes, Whoppers are us. And it was me, you. Yep.
    2:45
    Zachary. Zach. Raymond Davidson. Yep. And Steph, the pinball princess. So out of all of us, who did the best? it's not the answer you would think i think it was steph wasn't it no it's you then it was me wow actually i don't know overall i don't know i was 30th and 31st and two of the strikeout tournaments i was i was 30th and one of the strikeout tournaments yeah i was i don't know 9th 10th 11th whatever and the main tournament thingy uh the other strikes tournament i sucked at, though. I just sucked overall, except for that last tournament. Bruce, I retired from pinball at least five times. I'm going to retire from pinball. Oh, he's going to retire. Is this the official announcement? Yep. Should we play the music? Have you taken your talents to South Beach?
    3:39
    I'm just going to do classic tournaments. That's all I'm going to do. Oh, just classics. Just the new games are too difficult. No, the flashing fucking sucks. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they have LEDs. It's very dark, which is not necessarily bad, but when you have LEDs in the games and you're flashing, oh my gosh. Yeah, it gets hard to see. Like Terminator 3, when it would start doing display effects, I would have trouble seeing the ball. And then Game of Thrones was, oh my God. Oh, well, we know what you feel, how you feel about the Dwight Light shows, but yeah. Dwight Idiotacy. Is that the sequel to Idiocracy? Yes. Mm-hmm. Idiot-icy. Flashing your burn, your lights out, right? Whatever, you know, it's like, oh, my God, just killed me. I lost the ball twice. So what did you think of the facility? Oh, it's really nice. Very nice. Good selection of games. He goes everything from EMs up to new modern sterns, of course. And they just got the North American Championship Series they're going to have there. Yep, and the IFPA. Pinmasters. Yeah, Pinmasters. Yep. and I would assume if they're still around, because you never know, honestly, if he's making any money or anything. If they're still around in 2024, I would assume Worlds is going to be there.
    5:03
    Where else are you going to have it? You haven't already had it. At the beautiful Rochester Pinball Collective. Oh! Is there enough games there for that? We have 50 games. Yeah, that's enough games. That's definitely enough games. And all selection from 59 up to 2022. Yeah, plenty of parking. Yes. Food in the area. Airports right there. Yep. Airports 15 minutes away. It's an international airport, too. Wow. I mean, where is this place, Bruce? It's in 349 West Commercial Street in beautiful East Rochester, New York.
    5:43
    And what do they usually have, Wurls? Isn't it during the summer? Yes. So the weather will not be shitty. And we have three AC units alone in our place. Plenty of parking, plenty of transportation for all. Damn, it's just a done deal. If it's not 2024, surely 2026. Of course. Let's see, anything else about District 82? It was good. I liked it. I liked how it snowed the first day, and then by the last day, it was like in the 60s and nice. Yep. I felt like I was home. these guys flew into Chicago while I flew into Green Bay.
    6:18
    Green Bay is a very small airport, which actually TSA closes for two and a half hours during the day. Yeah, that was crazy. I was like, what?
    6:29
    After the last trip, I was like sleeping in an airport for, you know, 24 hours open just to see one that's closed or closes. It's kind of funny. It is. But yeah, it was good until I got home Sunday night. Sunday night I woke up at two o'clock in the morning sweating with the chills like I was freezing I was sweating I went into the kitchen grabbed the thermometer put on my forehead 102 fever yeah so I took the COVID test the next morning me and Kathy were separate she I actually didn't feel that well when I got home so I stayed away you know but she did pick me up in the car that was probably the bad part but I did have a mask on when I counted because I just got off the plane. I was so tired. But she caught it on Thursday. Mm-hmm. So we are just both getting over it. Yep. And I think Raymond started with the sore throat thing. Yep. Steph felt weird and then I think Zach got a little later and eventually everyone ended up coming down with it, except Mr. Antibody. Yeah, you. Yeah. Good thing I had antibodies because I was in the room with Bruce every night. Yes. Oh, my. We got to exchange nice middle-aged stories about, like, reflux and everything. Yes, because we're old. Great kind of conversations. Yep, we are old. I actually had three cookies today. Oh, boy. I cheated. I had lemon chicken, so that's a bad thing also. You know what's a good thing? Pinball. Well, that too, yes. You get, like, a liter of alkaline water and two tablespoons of baking soda. mix it up and then put it in a spray bottle and spray your throat with it. Wow. Helps with my sore throat issues. Did not know that. Yeah. The internet knows that. The internet knows all. Internet is, well, the internet's going to be broken soon because, you know, Musk is buying Twitter. So it's going to break the entire internet. It already has. I swear to God, people are freaking out like, oh my God. Like, really? Give me a fucking break. So, yeah, I had a fun time there, obviously. I mean, I played good, but I also got a lot of breaks and people not coming back to catch me when they probably should have and stuff like that. A lot of those things kind of fell in the right place.
    8:49
    I actually got a bye in the main tournament. So then you got to pick your set of games, but I think I might have been the last person to pick. So all the good groups have been selected. But the group I picked was four games I'd actually played already earlier, so I knew how they all played. and Alberto, my nemesis, he was in my group and destroyed everyone. So that bunched everyone else up. So I got tied after the, I think it was three games, actually. Yep, three games. And the tiebreaker was on Silver Ball Mania, and I did not come back from that.
    9:29
    And I was eliminated. But I got a shitload of Whopper points. Yeah, I only got some because I suck. I'm top 100 now. Or no. How does that work? No, top 200. Top 200. I was going to say, not 100.
    9:42
    Which is crazy, but my current rank, I'd still be in the B division at Allentown. Wow. Yeah. What am I in? D or F? J or... They have, like, if you're not in the top 100, you could be in the B division. It's like, ugh, that's kind of... I'm surprised they're not higher than that. Yeah. I don't know. Let's see. I think that's it for District 82. A good time was had by all. It's an expensive trip. Don't get me wrong. It's not like in a normal area, you know. So, you know, the hotel was nice. Oh, the Motel 6? Motel 6, yep. But I was very, I was happy, you know. It was just, you know, I was exhausted. And then getting sick right after that really was like, oh, my God, double bummer. I said I had to cancel my Atlanta trip the week after. Yeah, that you talked about. I had to cancel that, and now it's coming up this weekend. Oh, this weekend you're going to Atlanta. Yes, I'm flying down, actually. Pick up all those games. Oh, he's going to fly down. Yeah. And rent a vehicle and get the games back. You got it. Mm-hmm. Let's see. District 82, Ron kicks ass. I actually had that as a thing. Everyone got COVID. Check that off. Well, we got, I think we should say this near the end for Allentown. I want to talk about other stuff. Okay, we'll leave Allentown last. Yeah, because that's going to be the upcoming show. Yep. And we're recording on a Tuesday, so I may not get this out until the beginning of next week. Who knows? So you should all have this in time for your drive to Allentown. That'd be cool. I got Deep Root Hilarity.
    11:17
    Did you hear any of the pinball show? A little bit. I've been trying to save them up for this big trip, so I've not wanted to hear anything. Well, they had the Blueberry Johnson guy. Oh, yes, yes. I think he's written into the ball bag before, I think. I think he has. I think he listens. And so he was on there. He's the Deep Root guy. He's the guy who all the former employees of Deep Root send all their shit to. Yes. And Nap Arcade posted a bunch of it. Again, Nap Arcade, they're killing it. They are. And they had a lot of pictures, but they also had, did you see they had a video of a playfield mounting system? Yeah, which is pretty cool, actually. Yeah, they pull it out except the part where he couldn't get the playfield back in. I know. Robert, you know, well, you know, brother, I couldn't get the play field back in, dude. So he's there like, cut, cut, cut, cut the film. Stop filming me. Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
    12:09
    Oh, my God. Just the. He's a tool. Oh, that guy. He is quite the tool. His ego was writing checks too large for himself. Well, you know, brother. Yeah.
    12:20
    And it looks like people have been stealing shit from the auction. People have showed up to like pick up their stuff and it's not even there. Just like a clusterfuck. Big time. Yeah. It just adds to the legend. Oh, I can't wait. I can't wait for the Silver Ball Chronicles episode on that. Did I mention that in my other podcast? No. Silver Ball Chronicles? What podcast was that? Ask if you listen to it on the Pinball Network. Me and David Dennis, we have an episode upcoming that we recorded last weekend. Not Deep Root, but a subject that's very close to that kind of subject. It may even involve someone who was working at Deep Root. Wow. I wonder what that would be. I couldn't tell you who that was. I just, I have no idea.
    13:08
    Really? Mm-hmm. I thought you would since you were on the podcast. I'm trying to think of something that rhymes with J-pop, but I can't. Dickwad?
    13:18
    How about that? Okay. You see some of the pictures. Am I the only one? I think a lot of people have echoed this sentiment. Food truck looked interesting. Yes, I actually liked the food truck, and I did mind a couple of the other ones, like the Whitewater. Oh, yeah, the Whitewater. Yeah. And then also the Gladiators was a little kind of cool. And Black Hole, too.
    13:44
    Not Black Hole, son? Black Hole, son. Won't you come? Wash away the skank. Is that the Steel Panther version of it? Won't you come? Wee, wee, wee, wee, wee. Black hole sun. Won't you come? Okay.
    14:09
    Food truck, man. Who would have thunk? I guess that was going to be the game after Raza. Yeah. It was going to be food truck. Yeah, I would advise just listen to that podcast, folks. It's amazing. Just what a cluster. This should make a movie. they really should make a movie if they made a movie Bruce who should play the role of Robert Mueller Hulk Hogan no if they did an actual movie who could embody the icon Jack Black but isn't he usually the comic relief that we're supposed to like well he was comic relief when you watched all these stupid videos and everything like that I'm trying to think See, I'm not, as you know, I'm not too in with current media. No. So I wouldn't know. I don't know who would be good for that. So who is, you need to email us. Here you go. Email us on who should play Robert Mueller in the Deep Root movie. Email us at slamtillpodcast at gmail.com. Very good segue. Got the email address in there and all.
    15:17
    I mean, there's really not much else to say about Deep Root. The auction office. fucking disaster. It's a disaster.
    15:25
    Did you see the new Pirates topper that came out? Uh, yeah, I did. $2,500. The company that made the smoking arc topper for Indiana Jones. It's the best thing since sliced bread. We gotta have 40,000 of these made.
    15:46
    Fucking toppers have just gone stupid. Toppers are born in machines. Yeah. What the fuck does that tell you? Stupidity reigns. I actually didn't like the motion. Oh, I didn't like it at all. I thought it was hideous. It's the, what do you call it? It's the Kraken. Yeah. And it's like the arms of the Kraken waving around. Just the motion looked weird. Yeah. I wasn't feeling it. No, I wasn't feeling it at all either. The topper or yourself?
    16:17
    I'm sorry. All right. I guess the new American game is going to be out by October. I thought there was supposed to be two. That's right, baby. There were supposed to be two, baby, but the death of the Ric Flair and the Fallen. They came into the factory, baby, and they took out all the Whitewoods. Now we've got to recover. Yeah, I know. What are we going to do about that? I think there was a Four Horse. Yeah, they followed Dusty Rhodes to a gas station and beat him up. So I think they followed Dave Fix. And stole the prototype right out of the back of his car. He prototypes right out of the factory and beat him up, and it broke his arm.
    16:53
    I have played a lot of the, what do you call it, Valhalla, because it's in our league. I was thinking about this. So our leagues started last week. So I have a Thursday league that's at The Local. The Local, which is the worst name ever. Which has over, like, 10, 15 games. Yeah, 15 games. And I was thinking about this. Is this the first time? The first place within the Albany area, local, to have any kind of event, league, whatever, that has over 10 games other than level zero. Probably, but what's the local? You mean local as in local to you or local as the place? That's how bad the name is. Am I right or am I wrong? It's a bad name, but I think it's safe. Isn't it a franchise? I don't know if it is. Let's see. It is a bad name. The Local. But they add some more games. They have a frigging Cactus Canyon there. Nope. The Local is not. It's called The Local Pub and Tea House in Saratoga Springs, right? No. This is in Rotterdam. So there's more than one that has a terrible name. There's one more local in the area of you. That's pretty sad then. Yeah, they have a Cactus Canyon, the new one. Yeah. What else? There's a Local. Yep, that's the one. The local. Here's their website. You want to, you want another website? What's the website? The local. It's all one word. The local FFF. Yeah, that's right. For fuck's sake. What the fuck is FFF? Well, that would be FFS. Food, friends, and fun. There you go. Food, friends, and fun. Oh, yay. You know what was fun is our league started. I go in and none of the games are there because they moved them all to the other side of the place. and of course they didn't really level any of them except for me so yeah they all need leveling but it's like I would volunteer to help but the problem is I don't know if they're just going to move them again I'm not going to freaking waste my time no I totally agree with you yeah I did pretty good but the first game I always just end up last in every league I don't know what it is and then I improved and then we had our usual Excelsior league with our four games at the Excelsior Pub, which is, we have Guardians of the Galaxy,
    19:23
    Twilight Zone, which has been there from the beginning, ACDC, with non-working slings, which makes it fun. Jesus Christ, it actually would probably have been more enjoyable. And, um, hey, and, um, Iron Maiden. I really like Iron Maiden.
    19:43
    That's the one I'll play after League's over. I'll play a few more on Iron Maiden. I did pretty good there, too. I lost the first game. Ended up last in the first game and then did better.
    19:55
    And then I played a game on ACDC afterwards and got $146 million. I got two 2X song jackpots. Finally. Finally did something on that game.
    20:06
    Speaking of locations, there's the Skillshot Arcade in Syracuse. Gotta give a shout out there. They made the press, the local press in Syracuse. And my man Ryan, the guy who sold me my Alien star. And he has my old Firepower and Flash, and they were there next to each other, which I think is pretty cool. They're like together again. Yes, like peanut butter and jelly. Of course, I don't know the SkillShot's address other than in Syracuse, but just look up SkillShot in Syracuse and you'll find them.
    20:39
    It looks like the Dragon's Lair pinball is not going to happen. That's just, I tried to read the thread on that, and it just gets really confusing. It's like there was some dude in Europe. I think it might have been Italy. It's Italy. Yeah, I want to make a Dracula. We're going to make a Dracula. Very good. A Dracula. It says they say Dracula. So, yeah, he makes his own Dracula. He made his own Dragon's Lair. And then there was a Kickstarter, but he said he didn't write that actual email that asked about a Kickstarter. It gets confusing. and then someone from Pinside basically contacted Digital Leisure, who owns the rights, and says, is anyone getting the rights for this? Is there going to be a pinball machine? And they said, well, someone inquired about it, but nothing was decided. And the next day, Digital Leisure, like, you need to remove all that Dragon's Lair art, any references to Dragon's Lair from, like, the Facebook page. No, he doesn't. No, if it's for his own personal use, he can do it. Hmm. Let's talk about that, whether that was true or not. It is because you're not selling it. You're not. You're you're using it for your own personal use. Say if it's in this basement and never showed it again. Even if that's true, there might be something about having the art out there. Nope. Because guess what? It's all over. You know, look at all those the back of trucks where they put the decals of Calvin and Hobbes and Calvin pissing on stuff. You're going to say they paid every royalty to Calvin and Hobbes. No, of course not. It happens. And as some people brought up, the guy, the lawyer for Allied Leisure, his website was from 1989 or 1990. Digital Leisure? Yeah for Digital Leisure If it was Allied Leisure and they had a website at all that would be amazing Yeah but I mean the Digital Leisure website for the lawyer it was like built like in 1989 1990 It was so cheesy. It wasn't even funny. I think they've owned the rights forever. Yes, they have.
    22:46
    Here's what I'll spring on you. Oh, boy. Well, no. I was thinking about this the other day. When you've been doing this as long as we have. Oh, yeah. Especially you. you know like 40 years 50 years however long you've been doing it yeah it gets to a point where are there any games left yeah i know i've been thinking yeah there actually are that you would want is there anything left when you've been that like every show you played everything even the rarest of rare games you could never buy anyway so you still have ones left there is I just bought the games the Gottlieb you know it's still gonna be okay there's a couple others you know they're still out there's still games out there I never owned a Cactus Canyon I still have a chance to of course now with this you know the new ones so you actually want a Cactus Canyon oh I don't mind the game I actually like the game what else can I buy I never owned a Circus Voltaire would I want to buy one no of course not but there are games out there that I can still buy and go, ooh. Like I've never owned a Johnny Mnemonic, and I never would want one. Oh, you know, it's funny you should mention that, because there was a funny thing that happened with Johnny Mnemonic at the District 82 tournament. Yeah, you might have to, like, edit that one and put this forward and back. No, no, no, no, no. That was a perfect segue, Bruce. No, editing is required. Wow. You're awesome. I am. Yes, at District 82 and in the finals. and I was like five feet away from this when it happened. So here's the situation. For those who are not familiar with Johnny Mnemonic, we should explain the Spinner Millions, which is basically on Johnny Mnemonic, they're called Spike Awards,
    24:33
    and there are, what, five of them, six of them? Yes. However many of them there are. Five or six, yes. You go down the left-hand lane, and you hit either the right ramp or the right orbit, and it will give you the Spike Award. The third spike award is spinner millions. And if you get that and the spinner is decent, every time you hit the spinner, it would just add millions and millions to bonus. It's all bonus-based.
    24:57
    Now, if you get spinner millions lit up and then you drain, you've missed out. It's only good for one ball.
    25:05
    So if you are like a ball one or two or something, if you get spinner millions and you get a ton of, like you can get like billions in spinner millions, like a billion or more, you're probably going to win. And if a player hasn't got spinner millions, like they screwed up, they got to let it drain immediately, especially if it's like ball two. On ball three, they're screwed. There's like no way they're going to catch you. They have no way to catch up. It's wonderfully broken, as I like to say. And this is the situation Kaylee George, noted breaker of software, was in. He's in a situation where he's coming up to ball three. He's like five billion behind. He has absolutely no chance. So I'm like five feet from him. Like I'm sitting because I'm waiting. I'm in my match. And he says like, okay, now for the world premiere. Like he literally says this out loud. I'm like, oh, okay. So he's going to do one of his things. like what what is it well i ended up you know i'm finished i end up i'm playing in my match i kind of lose track what's going on next thing i know there's like a crowd around johnny mnemonic because it's broken gloves going around it's in ball search it's like in this endless loop where it just can't end and the game is completely fucked so you want to know what he did lay it on me big boy okay and i tested this on mine and i i heard kaylee say this he tested it on his he must have a Johnny Mnemonic. So he was able to do this on his. What you do is you get, and it can't be the first lock. It didn't work on the first lock. It worked on the second lock. You get, what is it? The first lock starts, the lock starts lit in the game. You can lock a ball and you put it up on the grid thing. Then you got to hit the, what is it? Bobs, crazy bobs, and it lights the second lock. So he had like the second lock lit, or it could have been the third lock. I'll just say it's the second lock. He starts Yakuza Strike. He then hits the lock shot. The Vuk will throw the ball up into the glove. The glove's got a magnet. You move the glove a little bit. Then you move it back and just drop it right back in the Vuk, right back in the hole. And it gives you like $40 million, what it would give you in Yakuza Strike. And it pops back up, and you do the same thing again. and it doesn't take anything off the timer.
    27:34
    So you can do this infinitely. Because if you need $40 million, if you're $5 billion behind, how many times is that going to take? Like an hour, an hour and a half?
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    But if there was a player who would be willing to do that, it's going to be Kaylee. But guess what happened, Bruce?
    27:53
    It broke. Yeah, the magnet died. So then it started getting confused, and it was like the buck was throwing the ball up in the air, and it would just fall back in, and the glove was moving back and forth, and it's clearing the grid out. It's doing a full ball search, and it just won't end.
    28:13
    So this brings up an interesting point, though. He did it on purpose. Yeah, some people said, you broke that on purpose. Yeah. You know? And he insisted, like, no, I wasn't trying to break it. I know the player that the one he was $5 billion behind from, that when he was $5 billion behind away, whatever, he wasn't very happy. Oh, I can imagine. Because, you know, the game was broke, so now they had to go to another game. And he did get screwed. He ended up losing out. Kaley ended up going on to the next round, and he didn't because of the next game. So that's just interesting.
    28:51
    Yeah. So now they have a big sign on the game. If you do this, you're DQ'd. just like they had a sign on dracula that said if you tilt the ball off of the uh magnet you're dqd so andy rosa he did it and got dq yep he didn't see that you didn't see the sign good segue there bruce thanks for mentioning johnny mnemonic yeah well there's other machines i've had where i you know i've never owned and for surprise surprise you know maybe a nice genesis in my future or something else. There's still a lot of games out there to be owned and had and then maybe sold and flipped. I was thinking more like games that I would actually keep. I'd like a Jurassic Park. I would like a Godzilla. I'm not as rich as you guys. I'm American.
    29:41
    I was thinking about this the other day. It's just like countdown. I wouldn't mind a countdown. I have one coming. Thank you.
    29:49
    I don't know. it's i'd like a doodle bug i want to doodle uh yeah i'm getting my hot tip yeah so i'm happy with that hot tip ain't bad i couldn't see you know hot tip em yep i could see owning that i don't know it's more of a space issue too because stuff's gonna have to get sold to make room for stuff you got more room you just don't want to stop you do not if people actually want to breathe down in the basement. No, I already have the plan out. Oh, you already have the plan out. Okay, Bruce, where am I moving shit? Your workbench or your storage area. Make it smaller. Put a couple games over there. You can't fit a couple games there. You might be able to fit one. Maybe two.
    30:31
    No. I'm thinking two. No. I need a work area. How else am I going to fix games? You don't fix them with people around. It's not like they're coming over and they're like, hey, oh my God, you have a mess here. So what you're saying is if I need to solder anything, just go upstairs and do it on the kitchen table? No, you have that folding table in the other side by the couch. Done. Folding table? No, no. Yes, yes, yes. Am I right or am I wrong? No, you're wrong, big time. I'm not.
    30:57
    If you notice, whenever Ron says, oh, you're wrong, I'm usually not wrong. Oh, really? Okay. I just feel like there's not much left. Really? God, I think there's still a lot out there. There might be some EMs out there, but, I mean, as far as solid state later, man, unless there's some, like, foreign game out there. Split second, I can go for – I can go for – let's think about this now. Hold on. Let's think. Now you got me. I like Alien, but I just can't put my trust in – You don't want to be working. Hey, you get a game from us. You be getting good. Yeah, I can't. I just don't get a warm and fuzzy feeling there. No, no, no, no. I mean, I know we know Zach. Our Zach has one. And they've been very responsive to him. But, I mean, how many different fixes and software updates? And, like, the computer in it died. I had to have that replaced. Yeah, I know. How long do you think the Pinball Brothers are going to be around? And this shit just keeps breaking constantly. I know.
    31:57
    And it's too dark. Oh, totally. Let's see. Let's see what we have. So let's go WPC. So you think you have every PC that you ever wanted? At this point, yeah. Okay. I mean that I – See? Gets you thinking now, doesn't it? Well, maybe, again, if space is – You wouldn't want a fun house? Nah. If space is not a concern, something like – I always like me some Indy 500. Okay. See? I like Roadshow. I don't care what anyone says. I love Roadshow. Every little thing I think about you Every little thing Just shoot me right in the cock Every little thing Yeah, those were the original lyrics But Pat Lawley didn't approve Because they were not family friendly Yeah So none of JJP's machines You wouldn't want a creature I know that Actually, I wouldn't mind a waka Okay, creature Fish tails Fish Tales? Maybe Fish Tales See, so, you know I'm trying to just give you a couple titles that you might go Oh, wait a sec Barb Wire, I know, is definitely on your list You know Big Hurt? I've played more Barb Wire than most people should play Big Hurt, no Pick some better Gottliebs Stargate I'm not into Stargate Surf and Safari, on the other hand, 100% What else is there? There's, what's not Surf and Safari, but what's the other one? If I was going to get another Gottlieb, that's the one, Surfing Safari. Or Countdown. Well, what about the other one? Not the Cactus Jacks. No. No? No. I'm surprised. No.
    33:41
    Okay, let's see. Again, the name of this segment is What Games Are Left? Yeah, I'm thinking about it. Or you just say, What's Left?
    33:51
    Pool Sharks? You do like some Pool Sharks. I don't. I'd never buy it, but I don't mind that game at all. Radical? Oh, Radical, yeah. See? Yeah, Radical's good. See? So there's a couple out there. There's a couple. You got to skim through them. I'm loaning right now. I'm skimming for you. I wouldn't mind if I could modify a teed off so you couldn't trap everything.
    34:14
    I'd like me some teed off. Banzai Run? Nah. Okay. I want to make sure. Bad Cats. I know you're definitely a Bad Cats guy. Although I do like One More Time. Or the Meow, Meow, Meow, Meow. I love that. I love that for whatever reason. I don't know why. I know. Me too. I totally do. It's like it's so stupid.
    34:34
    Space Shuttle? Nah. Defender? Interesting. I wouldn't own it. But I'd like to play it again. Okay. Very interesting game. And for those who haven't played Defender, it's got a lot of shit going on. It does. It really is awesome. They put some money into that for one that was in the den era. Yeah. Individually, like the control targets, the extremely hard to hit lock shot. the cool defender sounds of course okay so we're done with william mostly let's go to gotlib system adb so no tx sector nah no uh bad girls nah no excalibur nah genesis not to own i like playing genesis though robo war no uh tag team pinball I like playing it. I would never own it. Okay. Rock? No.
    35:33
    Heavy Metal Meltdown? That's Bally, but... I know, but I'm just trying to think of some titles. But it just hit the ramp over and over. But it is cool to hit the buttons and... Heavy, Heavy Metal, Metal, Heavy, Heavy Metal, Metal. I know, it's Star of the World. I hate when they disable that. Oh.
    35:48
    Okay, so we already have Alien Star, of course. Ice Fever, Krull. No. God, that was a turd. I know. Oh, I can see why they didn't make it. That thing broke like five times during Expo. Yep. What else? I'm just going through them all. You already got the 80s. No. I'm sure there's some European games out there I would like that I haven't played. Oh, I bet you there would be.
    36:12
    Force 2? No. No, no, no. The penis game? No. If I want a game with penises, it's all Quicksilver, baby, and I already got that one. Quicksilver all the time. Black Hole? No.
    36:24
    No G? No. Wow, okay. I'm surprised about that one. Genie is a good game. I don't dislike them. Is this more like what I own that game? No. 8-Ball Deluxe? No.
    36:36
    8-Ball Champ? Yes. Okay, see, so there's another one. Paragon? Paragon. Let's go to that system then.
    36:46
    What's left for Ron? Maybe I should change the segment. BMX I wasn't too impressed with. I like BMX. I wouldn't own it, but I like it. Fathom? Nah.
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    Centaur? Yes. You know, one of the first Expos I went to, they had a Centaur that was Vince, you know Vince the Corn from the RGP days. He had done one of his sound upgrades on it. And dear God, that's how you heard the whole show was this thing. And it sounded insane. It was like, oh my God, I need this game right now. the sound was that incredible.
    37:26
    But, yeah, wouldn't do it for me enough. Skateball? You already have Flash, so who wants to go for Skateball? It's a better Flash, but no.
    37:36
    Viking? This is fun. No, I like Viking, but no. I wouldn't own it. You wouldn't own my... Oh, Frontier. Yes. I have a soft spot for Frontier, even though it's killing animals. And a Flash Gordon, too. I know you would like it because you want to have the challenge. If I could get a Flash Gordon with the working strobe and a really early production one with the different soundboard, that sounds way better. Yeah, the early version, yes. Yes. Ignite Death Rays, 15 seconds.
    38:13
    Medusa, I don't think you'd want. Nah. Nope, I didn't actually say that. Let's go to Data East now. Oh, God. I have the greatest one ever, Lethal Weapon 3. I mean, you don't need anything else.
    38:28
    If space was no option, I would say Tales from the Crypt would be a possibility. Although I think I would get tired of the... I have a bone to pick with you.
    38:40
    Although I think the alternate ROM, he laughs way less. So maybe that would help. I broke IPDB. Uh-oh. Yeah. I mean, some of the earlier ones, like what is the submarine one? Torpedo Alley. Torpedo Alley is a fun game. Secret Service. Yep. They're good. They're good shooters. Robocop. Yep. I mean, I wouldn't buy them, but I mean, I like them. So what else could we get you? We know how much you love Star Wars. You will just buy games and just play them a while. When I buy a game, it's just I'm thinking it's got to be a keeper. That's the difference. I know you are. That's the difference. Even though I've sold many of them now, still. They were a keeper then, but, you know, not now.
    39:26
    Zachariah. The only one that would have a chance, honestly, Farfalla. Oh, no. No? No. Not into butterflies. Nope, nope, nope, nope. No. I love all those drop targets. There's so many drop targets.
    39:39
    Yeah, you know, we have about 30 games left. To fit in the basement that currently has like 30. No. because I like Sharky Shootout. Yes, you do.
    39:52
    What else? Godzilla, but still waiting for that to come. I'm not as rich as you. And Rush, be waiting probably until next year for that to come. And Jesus, with all the scoop issues and the inner orbit not registering issues and all the other stuff I keep reading about it, it might be a good thing. Yeah, it might be waiting until they get all the bugs worked out. Because they get all the bugs worked out, yeah. I think for the inner loop thing, if they just put like a plastic, like a clear plastic over so it couldn't go airborne. So I think it's going airborne. That's why it keeps jumping the switch. Just make it so it can't go airborne and boom, problem solved.
    40:29
    All right. So that was what games are left or what games are left for Ron. Because Bruce will be buying games to the end of time. Yes, I will. I'm starting to fill the basement. That's the good thing. We had League here. Yes, you had League at your house. What games did you have, Bruce?
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    Sea Witch, Gamitron, Non-Talking. Ooh, original. Original. No, it is actually the second one. Non-modded. Non-modded, yes. What was next to that? Sea Witch, Gamitron, Big Game, Memory Lane, Nineball, Solar Fire, and then on the other side we had Ali and Pinball. Oh. And the only one that broke?
    41:18
    Sea Witch. Oh. Which makes no sense to me at all. The EOS, and we had a problem with Display 1 on memory lane, so we only could play two-player. Is that the Sea Witch that plays obscenely fast? Yes. Okay. That's probably, it broke itself. It's too fast. Well, it did. The flipper, the link that activates the EOS switch, is damaged. The bar, it's bending now. It's actually so old, the original flippers, that it doesn't open, it doesn't close the coil. Doesn't close the coil. Doesn't close off the power for the coils for the EOS switch. So at the same time, I was having high and low. I didn't notice, but on a stern, it doesn't take any fuse out except for the main line fuse. The line fuse, F6 rectifier board, which takes out the whole game. Bummer. That sucks.
    42:14
    Well, you have big game. I finally got my big game working to my liking. Wow. Finally got the spinner spinning correctly. finally made some adjustments to the flipper angles so you can actually crush the spinner in a good way now yeah you were getting 45 almost 50 spins yeah i get about 33 on mine max i took the the two stand-ups on the left out and bent them because they were so they were bent back so far from getting hit for like 40 years they were sitting behind the post that's there, the mini posts. So I've got them out front, so now they're actually way more hittable.
    42:54
    And, of course, as soon as I got all that, then the score displays went wonky, as you saw on the stream, which I believe I fixed that. Yeah, I had to repin my number one display on memory lane. When I first brought it home... Number one! It cut out. So I put it on. It went up for like a quarter day, and then died again. I'm like, what the fuck's going on here? So I repinned the whole thing. Didn't help either, so I don't know what the hell. I think it might have a kink or a broken wire in the harness. Take it when that happens. It's going to suck. So I've got to first do the pit and the connector again just to rule that out, and then I've got to start going to the harness. Any more repairs? We also had to fix a couple switches on Gamitron, the kick-out switches.
    43:41
    But Ali, everyone liked Ali. Somebody rolled it. Pinball held up. I was really surprised with that because that was the last minute. Get that one in. Nine ball lost its marbles a couple times. That's frigging nine ball. It is nine ball. That's all. And Zach, of course, going, hey, we're trying to have this game. Whatever.
    44:00
    And I turned him like, it's not at the co-op. Mine doesn't get confused, at least. The only thing that happens is occasionally when the ball drains, it will blow by the switch, and then the switch will open up behind it. So it'll just sit there and won't end the ball. And you just reach your finger in there and hit it, and then everything's back to normal. So it's really not – it never gets confused in that it gives you a multiball when you shouldn't or anything like that. I'd like to get a longer wire microswitch. I'd like someone to sell the ultimate nine-ball switch kit. Yes. That they're spaced different or done in some way that doesn't have issues. Optos. Yes, something. Because my switch plate – because on nine-ball, all the trough switches, all three of them, They're on a plate. And on mine, you can see where the plate had been moved at least three or four times, where people are moving around, trying to figure out what the optimum space is. You can see the other lock area.
    44:58
    What am I saying? The other. The lock area where the switches have been moved multiple times People trying to find me No mine all virgin Mine you could tell They were trying like let try it here Let try it here Let try it here Then I had the weird issue where I was getting because of the balls they stack up on one another And they're metal switch arms. It would actually cause a short that would cause the game to reset. Yeah. So you'd lock, like, the second ball or third ball, and it was just like, boop, reset. Dope. So I had to put tubing over the switch so there's no metal on metal. So Bruce made A finals again. Zach, of course, crushed the league in the regular season. Can you just ban him? It's not fair. Nobody had a perfect this year. 15-0. Nobody had a perfect. Perfect. Zach, of course. Zach's trademark, I think now, is as the guy that fixes so many games, He is the guy that the game will malfunction in some way that will screw him in a major way at a tournament. That's like his new trademark. It was at Pentastic. He got screwed on TNA when it malfunctioned. At District 82, the main tournament, he had a game on Kiss where he would have passed somebody and the game locked up. What did he have to do? He got the compensation ball, but he lost all progress and got screwed, and he ended up tied with eight other people for the final spot when he would have been in if that hadn't happened. Yeah. So that's kind of like his trademark now, some kind of malfunction that screws him over.
    46:38
    So I have another subject. We may have talked about this one before, but I'm just curious about your view. Okay.
    46:47
    Following Facebook as I do, there's some interesting stuff that happened like in the past week with a two employees of pinball companies one with one company one with another one kind of makes a comment and kind of harassing another one and then the other one makes a comment on uh hey does anyone out there know a good harass a lawyer because you know jeez it's for harassment yeah and then And then the first person pulls the original post that they did, et cetera.
    47:19
    Do you think that the pinball manufacturers look at any of that or care in any way what their employees are posting on social media?
    47:27
    I think they probably do. They probably have like a little handbook almost like stating you should not antagonize any, you know, they should. Yeah. Do you think they do, though? Because I bet you I bet you Stern does. I don't think so because the employee in question was a stern employee. Yeah, well, they should because it's like if somebody is calling them out, be the better people.
    47:53
    This shouldn't be saying like, hey, we got 90% of the market. I don't want to hear that anymore. We've heard this for 10 years. It should be, hey, this is our game this time. This is what we can do. This is how we're making it better. They shouldn't be talking so much smack with all the rush problems with production. I'm not even talking about that. Just in general, making posts, maybe not even harassing others, but just making posts that you read like, ooh, are you sure you want to put that out there? Yeah, like stupidity. I've seen that from Stern employees, Jersey Jack employees, Spooky employees. Yeah. I mean, do you think – so you don't think – They should have a – They should – you think – okay. Because I don't think any of them do because they seem to be able to say – they seem to say whatever they want. If I was Gary Stern, I would want my employees to be better than the competition employees. Let's beat them on the manufacturing and the game itself. We don't need to antagonize anybody. We don't need to say shit.
    49:03
    You don't. I could see some of the other companies going, oh, look at those guys. Maybe then you might react a little bit and say, hey, when you get our share, when you actually make as many machines as we do, then get back to us. Well, the particular incident, I mean, it didn't even have anything to do with what they're making or anything. It was basically, I would say, an ongoing feud and then some passive-aggressive type bullshit by one person and then the other person making a very public post saying, anyone know a good lawyer? I'm contemplating a harassment case. So you know, like, okay, they put that out there because they want the other person to see it. And then the first person pulls the original post. It's just baby bullshit. Yeah, it really is. Yeah. But I'm just curious if they ever get a talk-in to. If I was George Gomez, I'd say, guys, cut the crap. we're here to make pinball we're here to make the best pinball machine we can don't bring yourself down don't bring our company down for your stupid competence that's it because a lot of you know a lot of them say they were they were very active in social media before they were hired and it just continued after the hiring yeah time to fucking wake up it's the 20 it's the it's the internet age you know everything is out there forever that's true even though that particular post was pulled, I have a screenshot of it. Of course, and so many other people do also. So guess what? It stays out there forever. Don't be stupid. Use your brain before posting. That's why I never post. That's like when Steve Ritchie called Gary Stern the Antichrist. It's still out there. It's still out there. And I'm not even talking about the recent time he left. I'm talking about in 2008 when he was fired. But yeah, that's why I don't post because guess what? I don't want to say anything stupid because I will say something stupid. Oh, yeah. You just go on a podcast instead. Exactly.
    51:04
    From his own lips. Yep. I'd rather say it than put it in the wordage. Bruce has shown some control at times. I have. Believe it or not, folks. Believe it or not. Yes, it is very rare. Let's see. What other notes do I have? Superhoop. You know Superhoop? I know. European manufacturer from Spain? Spain. Yes. He made, like, Tokyo Drift. I think he did some other game. Super Hoop was originally under some different name, like Super Costa. La Cucaracha. Oh, great. Let's offend the Spanish listeners now. La Cucaracha. I make you a game.
    51:46
    So they had some tournaments over the last weekend in Germany. Yes. Germany. So JDL Pinball, they were streaming them, and one of the tournaments in the finals they had Super Who.
    52:02
    It looked pretty interesting. Okay. It looked like it shot pretty good. Okay. Did it break? Then it locked up on ball three. There you go. And they had to finish on another game. Of course, that's why it was going to happen. Yeah, but it looked like it shot pretty good. I'd like to play that one. You might even want to buy it. I don't know about that, but I want to play Super Hoop, damn it. Super Hoop.
    52:27
    And I would rename it. I would call it Hoops 2. I would change the backless. Electric Boogaloo. Make it Hoops 2, Electric Boogaloo. Got it, baby. I thought that was funny because I'm watching it like, ooh, Hoops. And they got all the way through. They were like to the second to last player on ball three, and then it just locked up completely. Oh, well, that's the end of that. Oh, well. we got a haggis update oh and it was a good one yes why don't you explain the haggis update because you actually have a fathom on order yes i do chris has been saying that haggis is not going to put out a game chris the podcaster okay yeah smoking mirrors oh they're taking your money we need to see stuff literally i know from behind the scenes haggis was already planning to do this that they were going to show the first games being shipped for fathom it wasn't because of chris it was the show like hey we're getting these games out and here they come even though they're late they're coming and they look awesome the waterfall effect underneath is freaking And totally, wow, like, cool, this is really neat. So they posted on Facebook and their YouTube channel a video of them boxing up some games. Yes, and therefore their first – the people who are getting the games first are a couple local Australians.
    53:57
    And I think they have six or seven people who have bought the five-game pass. Oh, like every game. Yes. So they get the first ones. And one of them is coming to America. It ain't me. But it's in Rochester. It is in Rochester. Of course it is. Coming to America.
    54:19
    I feel good. Hey! And we also have a haggis on location now at the Rochester Pinball Collective. Well, that would have to be Keltz. It can't be anything else. Exactly. So we are probably going to have two on location. Okay. Probably one of the few locations in the world that will have both Haggis pinball machines. So what did you think about what you saw from the video as far as the construction? Like the trim, it's just like mirrors. It's mirrors. The only thing I did not like. Oh, here we go. Here we go. No, no. It's just like I love the lettering on the apron, you know, for the it looks like the old Bally stuff. But I didn't like that in the middle of it said classic series. Okay. I just didn't like that. It just was like, oh, you cheapened out, and this is what you got. You got the classic series.
    55:10
    I was like, oh, you know, I just felt like, you know, I wish it wasn't there. I mean, the classic series is the ones that don't have the new code. Yes. And it just says in the middle, did you see that? Did you look back at the video? Frankly, the video goes by too fast for me to see, unless I'm going to be pausing everything. Well, no, when he's laying down the play field and putting the play field back in the cabinet it before Marty puts his MR sticker on there, which was fucking hilarious, tested by Marty Robbins. You see the apron right there. And it does say the classic series. I was like, ah. Are you sure it was a classic series? I thought it had screens in the. No, they actually changed it afterwards. They then showed another one. But you saw when you're putting it down, it was a classic series. Okay. So I didn't like that placement of that. That's a minor thing, because guess what? I don't have a classic series. but but i think it looks awesome whoever is in on this got on the boat they got on the boat no the games are going to get on the boat no besides that well not no not some of them the one coming to rochester is coming air oh because he wants it now he wants it now he's like the girl from uh I want it now. Daddy. I want it now, Daddy. Okay. But, yeah, so I think it looks awesome. What did you think of it? I think it looked cool.
    56:40
    Do you think it's going to increase in value like everything else in this world? Increase? Sure, because there's a limited amount of them. Only, what, 240, I think there was, or 250? So now the question will be like, you know, I have a fathom for sale. Well, which fathom? Yeah. Well, I've seen the fathoms. One local guy was trying to sell his for $7,000. One of these or like a regular fathom? No, regular. Oh, Jesus Christ, no. They're going up there, $55,000 to $6,000 to $7,000. I hate to say it. It's not that great a game. It's not. I can't wait to see the new rules. It's not. It's a pretty good game. Maybe that'll help it. Huh? They took the whole top and put it in a better game in 8-Ball Champ. Huh? Dive again. Yes.
    57:29
    But their next game, well, whether it's 8-Ball Deluxe or Centaur, which are two they have to do. They have to do. Yes. That would, yeah. So would you be in on those? No.
    57:42
    You just went through it. We just went through all the games. I know, but I thought maybe since you can get a new version of it, possibly and everything like that.
    57:50
    Hopefully with Centaur they can make the whole multiball trough and everything else work better. I know you had fun with that. Oh.
    57:58
    They can improve on the design, hopefully. Well, it's easy. All you just have is a ball trough underneath, and you just have a feed and kick. And shoot a catapult. That's all you got to do. Did you see what's going to be at Allentown? Balls-O-Poppin'. Balls-O-Poppin', which was the inspiration for Centaur. That is, Centaur is said right by the designer. It's an homage to Balls-O-Poppin'. Yep. Which, if you play Centaur, you build up your orbs, and then if you hit one of a couple shots, it releases the orbs. Release orbs. But on Balls of Poppin', they're called wild balls, and you increase your wild ball count. And then when you hit the center saucer, it fires them all out, just like Centaur. Which is cool. Which is cool in a game made in, like, 1956 to see that stuff happen. And they're like, whoa, is this even mechanically possible? We need one. See, you would get one of those. I built it up to Zach big time, so he's finally going to get to play it. He'll probably hate it. He probably will. Yeah, he hates most things. He hates everything. Yep, he's like Mikey. Yes. Except without the cereal that he likes. He hates it. Hey, Mikey. Hey, Zachy. What was the cereal? Was it Life cereal? Life.
    59:10
    Let's go to the ball bag. Oh, yeah, baby. Give me some ball bag. Let's see. There's our Gary Stern interview request. Hey, Gary, come on. Please answer us. Everyone at Stern, start busting his chops that we know. Yes, please. We'll provide alcohol somehow. I'll just send him a case. We'll send you a case. My father, he worked for a liquor distributor. He still has tons of liquor. Yep. Whatever it takes to get you to talk about classic Stern.
    59:39
    Let's see. This mail is from Darren. Hi, Darren. Hi, Ron and Bruce. I'll add the Bruce part. I wanted to reach back out to you for some advice on our next pin. Ooh. I also wanted to say I thoroughly enjoyed your last Silver Ball Chronicles on Lime and Sheets and the recent Slamtail podcast with Raymond Davidson and Steph. Thank you. See, you mentioned both of them. He didn't mention Zach, though.
    60:06
    He didn't enjoy Zach. I enjoy all of your content and just wanted to say thanks. You made my commute to work so much more enjoyable. Not a problem. Mm-hmm. Let's see. I've come to the conclusion that I enjoy a lot of the same games as you. Very good. My lineup is starting to resemble your basement. We currently own Dialed In. Excellent. JJP Guns and Roses.
    60:31
    Godzilla Premium. Yep. Good. Stern Star Trek. Yep. Elvira's House of Horrors. Well, okay. All right. Whodunit. Yep. Black Rose. Yep. Win. We've owned in the past Stranger Things.
    60:47
    See, you get both of us with that one. Me, because you actually had a Stranger Things, and Bruce, because you got rid of it. Yes. See, you're winning both ways there. You won. No, he won.
    60:58
    Avengers Infinity Quest and Munsters. My fiancee loved Munsters and Avengers. She said, man, I got rid of them. She doesn't play them all the time like you do. Don't worry about it. Maybe she does. I don't know, but you know what I'm saying. We just sold an Avatar. avatard avatard so we have a little spending money right now i was thinking you might be able to give some ideas or recommendations i think the obvious answer might be deadpool yeah that's very obvious answer yes very obvious but those dang pros and premiums are so expensive right now well you're in luck because they're making them right now yep they're going back on the line yep of course you would have to have been in the waiting list probably for last year to get one of these, but... Go to a smaller distributor. Ron's now learned. Yeah, I am trying to hold out. We kind of like to have one game each of some of the bigger designers that we enjoy. I've never bought an EM, and I'm trying to stick with DMD or LCD. I really like to work on the machines, and my EM knowledge is woefully ignorant. Okay. Hmm.
    62:00
    I mean... What designer? Deadpool is a good choice. Yeah, what designer? Yeah, you've had... You want some Gomez action? I mean, I don't see any Gomez there. Yeah. So, yeah, you need some Deadpool.
    62:13
    Now, if it's a DMD game, what's a reasonably priced DMD game these days? That's good. Johnny Mnemonic. You know, he's around. He's had the Black Rose, and he's got a couple others around there. Mm-hmm.
    62:25
    I mean, you could try, like, if I go with some of my former games, Terminator 3. Yep, very good. If you want some Steve Ritchie love, it's got a little more to do than Terminator 2.
    62:37
    Monopoly, always a great. Simpsons. Probably is all right. Simpsons. No, you don't want Simpsons. Yes, you do. Remember, he says he likes games I like, and yeah, so he won't want a Simpsons. He said we. No, he says. Go back to the letter. I am back to the letter. The letter starts out, hi, Ron. It doesn't even say your name. Wow. Yeah. It said we. We sold an avatar. He was talking about, you know, we.
    63:04
    Recommendations. I'm trying to think of stuff that's more reasonable priced, and it's really hard. It is really hard to get anything that's reasonably priced these days, especially if you want a DMD or an LCD game.
    63:17
    I mean, Gilligan's Island is more reasonably priced, but I wouldn't buy. No. No way. Demoman.
    63:26
    I don't know. Are these cheap anymore? No, I don't get next gen. Get next gen. I mean, well, that last part where he says you like to really work on the machines, if you get an X-Gen, you're going to be working on it a lot.
    63:39
    Yeah, or maybe an older, like an Iron Man, like some Iron Man or Metallica. And there's lots of them out there. Just go to Pinside and look up Gizmonic because that's me, and then look at all my game lists, which I realize I haven't updated in a while, but see what I've owned and see if any of those tickle your fancy. I'd recommend all those he says this is kind of a hold back I remember on the podcast when you have a rush on order what model did you go with I went with premium maybe that might be something good to get another Borg in the collection okay then yep Iron Man, Metallica I also have a Walking Dead Pro for sale nearby that might be another good Borg option I was never that much into Walking Dead I like the rules I just don't like the play field Mm-hmm. So if you want the rules of linemen with a better play field, then you can get a Metallica. Mm-hmm. Guardians isn't bad either.
    64:41
    Oh, yeah. Okay. It says right here, another George Gomez game. So there you go. Johnny Mnemonic. So if you want something cheaper than Deadpool, Johnny Mnemonic. I don't mind Corvette. I seem to be the only one. Everyone else hates Corvette. I'd rather have an 8500.
    64:57
    Yeah, but that's not George Gomez. It says, I've never played... You don't have a... What's a... Nordman. I've never played Transformers. There's no loss there. Or a Batman Dark Knight. No loss on either of those. You're good on there. Yep. So, yeah. Find a giant mnemonic. And you like fixing stuff? The hand will give you hours. The glove will give you hours of enjoyment.
    65:22
    As you will get to work on one of the most complex mechs ever in a game. That didn't have to be that complex, but we made it that complex. It's cool. Thanks for your time, and thank you for all the content, Darren. Thank you, Darren. Thanks, Dar, because you didn't put my name in there. You don't get your N in there. Oh, Jesus.
    65:41
    Oh, Dr. Dude from Insanity Falls, because it's okay. This will be weird. Let's see. The subject line of Star Wars is High Speed 3.
    65:50
    So Steve Ritchie made High Speed 3. The Porsche wasn't fast enough, so Steve took to the stars. So instead of a car, he's going to, what, get caught speeding in a spaceship? Shoot yellow until you can shoot green, then shoot red. Except this time, gears go up into triple digits. And there's an extra button. And Dwight has known how to make the lockdown bar buttons fun ever since he first set sail on the lucky riverboat. Oh, yeah, riverboat gambler. With, like, what, four buttons? Yes. Plus, it's got two TVs on it. Holy shit. Is this going to be his new design for JJP? High Speed 3. It has two TVs instead of one. The scoring goes actually higher instead of the JJP. It's actually higher scoring. That would be funny. That's very funny.
    66:38
    All right. Thank you, Mr. Dude. We have an email here from Frank Guida. That last name sounds familiar. Something like that, maybe. Yeah, okay. He says, Hi, buttholes. I mean, boys. Sorry, wrong podcast. Just finished your most recent podcast, and I enjoyed it thoroughly, especially that pinball princess. Boy, she's good. But I feel the need to correct something that was in arguably the most popular topic in the podcast, Eric the Half Bee. When Princess made an Eric the Half Bee reference and was met with blank stares, she went on to explain it was a Python sketch from one of their albums, but not in the TV show. That is not correct. While the bit is on an album, Mighty Python's previous record, it's the actual title of the record, it was first in the TV show. In the show, it followed a sketch entitled Fish License and could be found in episode 10 season 2 entitled Scott of the Antarctic Okay I hope this clears things up for all the Python fans that are also listeners of your podcast Keep up the good work Frank Guida Muchas gracias senor P.S. I really like the Leonard Nimoy. Oh, he said Leonard Nimoy. The George Takei. It's George Takei, Frank. Oh, my thing you end your podcast with. Gee, I wonder why. Whoever put that together really knows his stuff. Oh, my. I don't really do any Monty Python voices, do I? You could be, what is it, whatever they would do in drag. I don't like spad. I hate that spad. I don't like getting on in. Spad, spad, spad, spad. You know, that's what they sound like. Or the Gumbies. We're just going to the fair. Oh, that's good. I should stream as that. Yeah, that'd be a winner now. We're going to play something ball right now. It's going to be great. I like that idea. Yeah, I'll dress up as the Gumbies.
    68:32
    I think that's what they were called, the Gumbies. That's the ball bag. Thank you. I have a request for our listeners.
    68:42
    Perhaps someone out there can help me with this. In November, Toho released a 15-minute short of Godzilla vs. Hedera, or Hedora, however you say it. November is Godzilla month. They do something on the anniversary of the release of the original Godzilla in 1954.
    69:05
    So what they did this year is they did a 15-minute short of Godzilla and Hedorah battling. That they did the proper way this time. No CGI, like stupid-chin Godzilla. They used the Suitmation. They reused the suits from Godzilla Final Wars. And I see these pictures of it everywhere. I see the trailer for it. but I can't get the fucking video because they must have taken it down. Because if you click on it, it says it's no longer there. I even tried putting my VPN to Japan. Like I'm from Japan. Nope, video is not there. I cannot find this video anywhere. I need to watch this. So if someone out there can direct me or maybe just upload it to Dropbox or something, give me a link, something. I need to watch this. That is my request. Thank you. Bruce is there like, huh? What's a Hedora? What does that mean?
    70:03
    Dead silence Yep Allentown We're going to end it talking about Allentown Well, we're living here in Allentown With a big pinball tournament Oh, yeah We're getting Timmy back in the east Oh, that's right Yeah. That's right. You guys are bringing games there, right? Yes, we are. The RPC is bringing some games to Allentown. Three games. What are you bringing? Should I say? Am I allowed to say? They already released the list of all the games for the tournament, so. Then you should know my game. The Fist. You got it, baby. Yeah, Dragon Fist. And the other two are? I don't know what Zach's bringing. I really don't. I'm being totally honest. He's. Okay. I could look up the list, but I'm too lazy. Okay. But they're going to have, well, first, Allentown, the show. This is my longest running show. Yes, it is. I have been to, well, actually, I guess this and Expo are the same amount. But did we miss, because they had Allentown last year, but later. Yes, they did, later. But they didn't have it in 2020. Nope, and neither we did, and no Expo in 2020, so you're still the same. Oh, yeah. They had the virtual in 2020. That's right. So, yep, it was the first pinball show I ever went to was Allentown. That's when I was like, wow, look at all these games. This is my favorite show by far. Really? Okay. Yes. The reason why, it's a big swap meet. Yes, it is. That's what I love about the show. And you better be there Thursday, which I never am, so I never get any deals. Nope, you never do. But I do find deals for Zach all the time, I swear to God.
    71:46
    Last time, last year, it was like, oh, there's Black Rose Plastics here. He's like, I'll take them. Okay. So, yes, it will be at the Allentown Fairgrounds. Yep. I will be working the back door again. Oh, my. I've heard that about you. It'll be right next to the – Market. Yeah, Farmer's Market, the world-famous Farmer's Market, which never changes. The amount of food in that place is obscene. Overwhelming. Just don't stop at the pizza place when you first walk in, though. They suck. No. Pretty much anything else is usually good. Yes. Go for the pretzels. Go for the – there's a ton of good stuff. Candy shop in the back is really good.
    72:24
    Yep, they got tons of things to buy. I'll be bringing some money and look at – I don't bring much money. So about the only thing I could buy there would be like an EM. So we'll see. We'll see what happens. We have space to bring it back for you, Ron. Oh, you have your own vehicle. That's right. Yeah, we have Dad's vehicle. Ooh. Which you're bringing something for me. Yes, I is. the green penises will finally be in my possession yes and he'll be holding on to it with loving lust you were searching hard for those words weren't you i was and i were and that just loving lust that didn't sound as nearly as dirty as it should i know i was trying to be kind of a little bit oh my god what the fuck's wrong with me what's wrong with you this is your podcast This is after COVID. This is like, you know, I have COVID. Oh, God, imagine if we had Bruce gets COVID, so then he becomes totally PC after it. Like, that's. Yes. And he ends up, he can't take it anymore. Like, I can't take it. Hi, boys and girls. I can't be offensive anymore.
    73:27
    Like, you try to be offensive, but you get, like, sick. Yeah. It's like clock, what is that? Clockwork Orange. Yeah, Clockwork Orange. So, like, yeah, you've been, you know, every tries to, like, say, oh, my. Oh, oh, I'm in pain. Oh, my God, I have a pain in my ass. Oh, my God. A pain in my ass. He just gets anal pain every time. Anal bleeding. Oh, God.
    73:51
    Oh, man. Oh, my God. Instead of the eye drops in your eye, you're sitting on a toilet and they're just. Plotting ladders all over the place. Oh, God. Like we said, Allentown. It'll be great. Allentown's the best. I will be working the back. Don't forget, when you see Ron. Don't hug me. Hug him. No. Hug him like the No Demar that you would always. They're going to have one of those certified tournaments. What the hell does that mean? Plus 20. Plus 20 because they're guaranteed 64 players who are ranked. So it's worth more than a regular tournament. Yes, it's 20% more. Oh, I got another thing. we've got to bring up after this, too. Oh, okay. This year it's, was it Levy, Greg, and Timmer who are running the tournament. So basically like the New York City Pinball Championship crew. Yep, which is still going to be doing that, too. And, yeah. Oh, yeah, that's coming up. Other than it's going to be in Brooklyn, have they named a hotel or any other information? No, nothing yet. Nothing yet.
    74:56
    Yeah, so what is the format? You've got to play 12 entries, and you've got to play 12 different games, and that's it. Yep. And then the final, they're trying to, it always overruns. So they're trying to get like all the qualifying, I think it's Friday and the finals are Saturday. Yes. So you got to get there early. Yeah. If you want to get all your entries in, otherwise you won't be able to. No. So I guess I know where I'm going to be, unfortunately. Yep. I'll be finding the deals and you'll be playing. Yeah. Well, if you find any deals for me, let me know.
    75:28
    Let's see. Anything else? For Allentown? Enjoy it. There should be hopefully a lot of deals there. It's a great show. Come and join us.
    75:43
    If you have any stirred parts and you're coming, just tell me or Ron. We'll probably buy them. What are you looking for, Ron? I'm looking for one thing. Oh, you're looking for one thing.
    75:54
    I'm looking for, like, if I see a decent doodle bug there, I might consider it. We'll see. Okay. I'm looking for the games. Godly games. The games. Backglass. Oh, good luck there. Yep. I got to find one, though. I'm meeting somebody with a Backglass for my second Cheetah. Of course you are.
    76:15
    And then I'm going to pick up some stuff there also. All right. Me and Zach are renting a trailer. So, as I said, you found two games, Ron. We would happily help you out. Oh, how nice. For $25.95 per mile. $25.95 per mile. Wow.
    76:35
    Okay. We got to make the money off somehow. God, what do you think this is? No, we have an enclosed trailer, so it'll be kind of cool.
    76:45
    In baseball season, we have baseball. We have baseball? Baseball. I tried to watch baseball the other day. I just, I just can't do it.
    76:57
    Wow. I still can watch baseball. it's just the whole the shift thing and people just just don't like just bunt down the line i thought they couldn't but i saw them shifting so obviously they still can't because there was an early there was a game earlier in the season where a guy literally tried to bunt because they had the shift on he hit a pop-up down the third baseline but no one was there so it just dropped and he was safe and i'm never like hello let's let's do that all the time yeah no one like knows how to no one has any fundamentals everyone just tries it all runs and they strike out 30 zillion times yep it's just nah nah i can't do it of course i'm anal about such things like i'm watching the nba playoffs and i think it's tnt they're putting like the shot clock they're super imposing it on the the court yeah like is it like and it's just like no that bugs the shit out of me and they're doing that in baseball they'll be like on the pitcher's There's some kind of thing they superimpose on it that's not actually there. And it's like, you know, if you guys want to do the rotating advertisements in the back, fine. But don't put it on the field. They're not even rotating anymore. It's a digital screen. Yeah, that's fine. That's fine if they want to put that behind there. I mean, that goes back to like the fucking 30s. They used to have billboards and shit everywhere. Oh, yeah, of course. But don't put graphics on the field that don't exist. I know. I just, oh, I just, yeah. So what do you feel about baseball with now they're going to have advertisements on their uniforms?
    78:27
    Again, if you look at old clips from the 30s and you see the amount of advertising, which was probably even more, that they had all over the freaking stadiums and shit, it'd be like, it's not a new thing. No, smoke them if you got them. Yeah, all the cigarette hats.
    78:44
    It's not the game I grew up watching, let's put it that way. Yep. and I'm old now, so I'm allowed to do all this stuff. I don't mind playoff hockey. Playoff hockey is still good. Yes. So what are you looking forward to with Allentown?
    79:01
    You've already played Valhalla, so you're not going to really be excited for that. No, and I would say, like, see, before we had a location here that actually had some newer games, like, i.e., The Local, which has Godzilla and Rush, the only way I'd get to play newer games is either I'm, in Rochester or I'm at a show. So I would be like, I get to play rush. I'll get to play like, well, I can play those anytime. I want to play cactus Canyon.
    79:29
    That's right. Come to the local. You can play our cactus. Where's the local at? It's local. It's a Rotterdam square mall. And amazingly, the cactus Canyon has flipper hop. Does it have flipper hop? It doesn't have the metal guys. It has plastic. No, they're not plastic. They're metal, but they're the, I hate to say his name, but it's like the John Trudeau ones. Oh, yeah. You know, and I'm like, how is that a flipper hop then? They don't even move. How does that happen? Because they're probably not tightened or they were tightened wrong. Yeah. And then they have a Monster Bash remake there. And I don't think it's ever had a flipper rebuild because we're to the point where we can't hit anything. Excellent. Isn't that great? And there's massive flipper hop on the left side on that game, too.
    80:19
    Again, how does that have flipper hop? Sorry. It sounds like you're bitching about your local. Well.
    80:30
    Oh, you're going to be so excited what's coming to the RPC soon. Oh, what's coming to the RPC soon? Mark just bought two more games. I'm looking at them in pictures on Facebook just now. For those at home, Mark is the guy at the co-op that usually buys all the latest LE and the super expensive shit. Yes. So does this go along with that? No. No? All right. So you totally ruined my thing there. Okay. I knew it. That's why I was going for that. All right. So what did you get? Two Gottlieb System 80Bs. Oh.
    81:03
    You're like that. Oh. What? That's okay. Are they good ones? uh what let's let's get on the list let's see if you can figure out oh god another game easy yes you like games okay the designers john trudeau that's easy probably one you won there you go hold on i'm just waiting for i had broken ipdb so i have to go back into it now you broke it so now you have to go in and fix it one's an adb and one's a system three Oh, so you're wrong. You said they were both 80s. Yeah, I thought they were, but I forgot. So what do you want to try for first? The 80B or the System 3? System 3. Okay. Does it have really shitty flippers? No. They all do. Okay, ask me two questions, and I'll see if I can... Oh, Jesus Christ. Come on. Well, here, I'll go down the whole list. Do you want me to give you the list? Oh, no, no. I don't want to do just listing games.
    82:04
    Does it have more than two flippers? I think it does. It has four flippers. Oh, four flippers. I'm trying to remember. Does Stargate have four flippers?
    82:17
    It has only three. And it was not designed by Trudeau. It has Pyramid Battle Rounds. But it's not Stargate. Nope.
    82:28
    I don't know. Fights a three-headed dragon in a Beast Challenge round. Three-headed dragon and the beast, like gladiator? You got it, gladiators. Oh, okay.
    82:41
    And then you want to go to the ADB? That is four flippers, wow. Four flippers. It's got that thing that the ball goes out and it drops down, kind of like split second head. Yeah, a little bit like it, yes. Okay, the ADB. Does it have two flippers? It has two flippers. And it was not designed by Trudeau. It's not designed by Trudeau. How's that? And it's a B. It's a B.
    83:06
    I don't know. Big House. I should have asked, does it have dogs? Woof, woof, woof. That has a cool multi-ball presentation. It does. It's a great light show. Before Guns N' Roses Spotlights, we had Big House Spotlights and that corkscrew thingy. Yes, the corkscrew. Yeah. I like that game. I like that game, too. It's good for the kids. Oh, more Gottlieb action. We're going to have a lot of Gottliebs there soon. That's great. Especially for a podcast that was known for just insulting Gottliebs. Yes.
    83:46
    Hypocrites. You didn't stay true. I didn't buy it. You shouldn't allow it there. I have to. Because he's allowed to have so many games there. You were voted out by the committee. No. You have a minimum amount of games you have to have there. What's the minimum amount of games you have to have there? Nine. And some have ten. You have nine games there? Minimum. Is that for every person? Yes. But the problem is two people don't have that many games. So that's why me and Zach have more games there. Oh. But what happens now, these guys are now buying games, and now our games are going down in numbers. Okay. I actually only have, after Dragon Fist walks out of the building, It will never go back in. And I'll be down to 12. Wow. Only 12. Yeah. Zack still has 17. But he has to start taking out some, too. I hope it's Star Wars. Oh, Star Wars is great. Well, he already took one out. Captain Card's gone. Is he going to sell that? I think so. Yeah, I don't think he's keeping that.
    84:52
    So, I think that's it. Is it? See you all at Allentown. Yes. hug Ron. Do not hug Ron. Wow. We're still working on our 100th guest. 200. 200th guest, which you pretty much already said who it was, and everyone knows that we're trying to get on. We're trying our best. Yeah. Hopefully he doesn't listen to the episode where you gave away his phone number. What's your point?
    85:20
    He gave it out. Actually, he did. He gave it out, so guess what? He gives it out. I'm giving it with it. You're giving it with it. Yeah. Oh, good Bruce-ism to end it with there. That's very good. So we are the Slam Tilt Podcast. This has been episode 184. We can be reached at slamtiltpodcast at gmail.com. Our website is www.slamtiltpodcast.com. Check it out. All our links are in the upper right-hand corner. I actually did stream the other day. Is it golden? It was golden. Good. Bruce immediately comes on and says how my volume is low, which it wasn't.
    86:00
    No one complained other than Bruce and I asked anyone else in the chat if they had an issue. No one did. Then I checked it on my phone and the volume was fine. Steph even said it was low. Yeah, okay, sure. She was next to me. Yeah, the volume was low because Bruce didn't have the volume up on the TV. I did have the volume up and I was using my phone at the beginning. Ah, sure.
    86:20
    You can go to the archived video on demand, the VOD, and see how terrible my volume was. and where would they do that how did they get to that that's twitch.tv slash slam till podcast and couldn't they get that through our website also yes and all the links are in the upper right hand corner just like i said just reiterating of course you're reiterating and to reiterate thanks everybody for listening we're still here still kicking kovid didn't kill us it just made the stronger yeah yeah and yes please email us who would be the best actor to play robert muller oh i got it paul bart paul wait a minute that's a character not an actor well what's what's the actor kevin james there you go kevin james you know what okay i'll go with that i see too bad chris farley wasn't he was alive you could have just chris farley jesus christ i got this Pitball Machine Company don't make a shit name.
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    Holy crap. We'd have David Spain in it as, I don't know, John Papaduke. I like to try to spend some more money of yours because I can. Or no, no, we have Dana Carvey because he's Canadian. Something makes sense.
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    There you go. Or if he, oh, if, what's, Norm MacDonald. If he wasn't dead, he's Canadian. He could totally be John Papaduke. Yep. Oh, that would be awesome. but we got to name actors who actually live. I know what we did. Kevin James. Yeah. Kevin James as Robert Mueller. Okay. Yes. Well, you know, brother, I'm Robert Mueller and it's time to go, dude. Thanks everybody for listening to slap till podcast. Thanks to everybody out there in our cluster of a group. Fun little bonus. Yep. Hi, Zach. Hi, Zach. Hi, everybody. Zach. Many. Where's my frigging banners? Where's your banners? Where's my banners? I have an email. He promised me banners. He promised you banners. He promised me a Godzilla. Where is it? I don't know. Where is it? He's got to call Stern. Get him to just get on that. Skol. Okay. Thanks, everybody. Until next time, say goodbye, Bruce. Goodbye, Brian Broyles. Hold my mind. Can you boogie? Can you slide? Hold my mind. You can donate if you try. Oh my, my. Guaranteed to keep you alive.
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    Oh my. Oh, my. Hi, Bruce. Hey. Finally get over the COVID? Yeah, the sandal bleeding is really bad. That's why everyone wanted toilet paper. I wonder why everyone wanted toilet paper. It was to stuff up their butthole to stop the bleeding. Dear God, that's not one of the symptoms. Oh, it's got to be. No. It happened. No. Hold on. I'm going to go right to the CDC and see. Yep, it says right here, anal bleeding, number three. No, it says rectal bleeding, yes. Oh. I call it anal.