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Pinball Junk Drawer Episode 94 - Pokemon, Yeti and other stuff!

Poor Man's Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·42m 18s·analyzed·Mar 25, 2026
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TL;DR

Pokemon craze dominates; Yeti machine revealed; Dungeon Crawler Carl rumored; industry charity spotlighted.

Summary

A casual, humor-driven episode of the Poor Man's Pinball Podcast covering Pokemon pinball machine fever, a new Dennis Nordman Yeti machine (Yukon Yeti Legacy), rumors of a Dungeon Crawler Carl pinball game, and discussion of industry figures like Roger Sharpe. The hosts also discuss charity efforts at GaryCon, Lumberjack Johnny's arcade venue metrics, and industry speculation about future manufacturers.

Key Claims

  • Stern is rapidly producing Pokemon pinball machines in high volume

    high confidence · Host states 'Stern is cranking them out' in reference to Pokemon machine production

  • Measel Mods has created a modification that dispenses Pokemon trading cards from the machine

    high confidence · Host mentions 'Measel Mods has a new mod that actually dispenses Pokemon cards out of the front of the machines'

  • A new Dennis Nordman machine titled 'Yukon Yeti Legacy' has been revealed

    high confidence · Host states 'There was recently, no, recently TPF went off. And there was a new Dennis Nordman machine, the Yeti machine' and later confirms 'Yukon Yeti Legacy'

  • The author of Dungeon Crawler Carl book series indicated a pinball machine adaptation is in development

    medium confidence · Host: 'Zach had said that the author was the one that kind of said that there was a pinball machine in the works' with author name possibly Vander Hagen

  • Gary Stern donated a Dungeons and Dragons Pro machine to GaryCon charity auction for $10,000+

    high confidence · Host states 'he donated a Dungeons and Dragons pro for the charity auction. And they auctioned it off and it went for over $10,000'

  • GaryCon 2024 raised over $120,000 for Children's Hospital of Wisconsin through charity efforts

    high confidence · Host: 'for the whole con for the whole convention they raised over a hundred and twenty thousand dollars for the Children's Hospital of Wisconsin'

  • Roger Sharpe's pinball history book is extremely difficult to find and expensive

    high confidence · Host describes extensive search through bookstores and thrift stores, purchased online at high cost, described as 'the most expensive book I ever have bought'

  • Ken Cromwell came from JJP to work with another pinball manufacturer

    medium confidence · Host discusses JJP hiring practices: 'he got that guy from JJP, right? Oh yeah, yeah. What's his name?' Later identified as 'Ken Cromwell'

Notable Quotes

  • “Stern is cranking them out. Measel Mods has a new mod that actually dispenses Pokemon cards. Oh my goodness. Out of the front of the machines, which is pretty much like dispensing crack out of a crack machine.”

    Foghorn Leghorn / Host @ early segment — Illustrates the intensity of Pokemon machine popularity and aftermarket innovation

  • “I've been a graphical janitor for about 35 years. I'm very good at it where you take someone else's who goes, I'm much too important to care about your rules, and then they throw it at you and go, yes sir, and you go in your cubicle and you slave away for years”

    Foghorn Leghorn / Host @ mid-segment — Self-deprecating humor about production graphics work; reflects career frustration and expertise

  • “Reading it, it is obviously 70s, it's more historical... The seventies had fine shooting machines. They were cool, but it was onto the next one within weeks. They were money generating machines. But now it's sitting in someone's collection to be judged next to all the other perfect judges. It's a much different environment.”

    Foghorn Leghorn / Host @ book review segment — Commentary on how pinball market evolution from operator-focused to collector-focused has changed game design priorities

  • “I wonder if there's going to be another one? Is there going to be another, another maker coming out of nowhere and just starting up?”

    Foghorn Leghorn / Host @ mid-segment — Speculation about future manufacturer consolidation and potential new entrants following JJP's success model

  • “Pokemon has definitely been a lot of fun and I think they're going to make these... I'm not a fan of that. I'm a fan of that game. I've been watching these for a long time.”

    Foghorn Leghorn / Host @ pokemon card opening segment — Expresses strong positive sentiment about Pokemon machine despite being unfamiliar with Pokemon franchise details

  • “There is some separation between these groups where they wouldn't even think of approaching a game when they should because they are, more modern games are made to like kind of say, okay, this is fun. This is what you like. So yeah, try this one out.”

Entities

PokemongameYukon Yeti LegacygameDungeon Crawler CarlgameDennis NordmanpersonRoger SharpepersonGary SternpersonKen Cromwellperson

Signals

  • ?

    product_strategy: Stern is producing Pokemon machines at high capacity to meet 'Pokemon fever' demand

    high · Host: 'Stern is cranking them out'

  • ?

    design_innovation: Measel Mods created Pokemon card dispensing mechanism for pinball machines with configurable reward thresholds

    high · Host describes mod: 'you can set it at different levels like you have to hit 10 million, then it will give you a card'

  • ?

    machine_intel: Dennis Nordman released new machine 'Yukon Yeti Legacy' revealed via TPF

    high · Host: 'There was recently, no, recently TPF went off. And there was a new Dennis Nordman machine, the Yeti machine' and 'Yukon Yeti Legacy'

  • ?

    rumor_hype: Dungeon Crawler Carl book series author confirmed pinball adaptation in development; manufacturer unknown

    medium · Host: 'Zach had said that the author was the one that kind of said that there was a pinball machine in the works'

  • ?

    community_signal: GaryCon D&D convention attendees engaged with pinball machines at the event despite being from different hobby communities

    high · Host: 'Chris said they were gaming was right near the machines and he said that there were people on them the whole time'

  • ?

    industry_signal: Ken Cromwell transitioned from Jersey Jack Pinball to another manufacturer, indicating talent mobility between manufacturers

Transcript

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0:00
Now who's respons... I say who's responsible for this unwarranted attack on my person? I say, I say, I say, pay attention now boy, this is, of course, Foghorn Leghorn presents the Pinball Junk Draw. You all asked for it, I say, I say, you all asked for it now, you're gonna get it. Boy oh boy are you gonna get it. Go, I say go away boy, you bother me. It's time for the one, the only, often imitated, never duplicated, beacon of shining hope in a sea of sadness. That's right, it's time for the Pinball Junk Drawer. My name's Foghorn Leghorn sometimes apparently, and with me as always... Craft Brew Sally. Wowzers. I might have oversold the show. That's okay. This is an awesome show. Yeah, it sure is. Just ask us. No, we're very humble. No, we really are. Yeah, all right. We're going to start off with some requested emails and we got some. It makes you feel good inside. If you have some questions or want us to talk about something, shoot us an email at pinballjd.gmail.com. You'll be glad you did. For example, these fine people. You have one. What do you have for us? So I have one. I have one from... This may take me a minute. I think I might know who this is from. Slippery, slapping, sprinkler, statue saluting, Siamese, silhouettes, signing, sought after souvenirs. Nice. Glenn. Ah yes, I was going to say I think I might know who that is. Yes. S to the 20th power I think is what we say. But I think we should read his email a little bit later. Okay. Alright. Well then we got one from all those that will read that. And then we also got one from the amazing Randall. Yes. Hi. Hello, junk drawer. Two quick things. One, you guys are my favorite pinball show. Yay. I know, which is odd because you cover the least amount of pinball, but it's great. I always look forward to your show and listen to you first. Keep it up the past 100. Thank you very much. Amazing Randall. We will. And then the second one was crafter Sally said she is looking into Disney art. So sharing a little collection we put together for the artist Jasmine Beckett Griffith. We like her style in case you haven't seen it. And then some very cool, I don't want to say like Gothic, but kind of cool looking, I guess Gothic versions. You know, they're very cool. They are really cool. And you don't need to send me stickers because you already sent me a couple. Keep it up. Thank you. If you write us, we have to send you 20 stickers. No, I'm kidding. If you take one, you go, I take 10. Thank you very much, Rando. We always very complimentary and we are very thankful. That's awesome. And those pictures are very cool. Yeah, they are. It's not me, but they are really neat. Yeah. I think we've seen those before. We have. We've been to Disney approximately 78 million times. I think my friend Anne has a bunch of those. Oh. Yeah. Possibly. Yeah. Very cool. Well, thank you for the email. As always, we look forward to it. I was trying to finish the Roger Sharp book and it was one of those things where I was kind of taking my time with it. I was searching for it for so long. You know what I mean? When you finally get it, I didn't want to rush it. So I was doing a very slow read, kind of taking in every part of it. And I will say, a quick book review, it's awesome. I think part of it is because when you meet Roger Sharp or you get to know him a little bit, I wouldn't ever presume to say I know Roger Sharp, but we've met him once or twice. Every interaction has been just incredible. He's a very cool dude and I've watched his movie about 17,000 times, so that makes me part of the family. Maybe more. But I will say, like reading it, it is obviously 70s, it's more historical at this Chief Peter Moran.

Craft Brew Sally @ GaryCon discussion — Identifies market segmentation issue: games designed with broader appeal can bridge communities that don't normally overlap

  • “I personally have seen so much like giving... They don't have to. No. Yeah. So it's very, I think it's really cool... that's part of the way to stay, not only stay relevant, but also like to say, hey, we're still here and we're still doing some awesome things.”

    Foghorn Leghorn / Host @ charity discussion — Commentary on industry charity and community giving as business strategy and cultural values

    • Zach
    person
    Dennisperson
    Dwight Sullivanperson
    Spooky Pinballcompany
    Jersey Jack Pinballcompany
    American Pinballcompany
    The Pinball Showmedia
    Lumberjack Johnny'svenue
    GaryConevent
    Children's Hospital of Wisconsinorganization
    Measel Modscompany
    Chrisperson
    Lumberjack Daveperson

    medium · Host discusses JJP: 'he got that guy from JJP, right? Oh yeah, yeah. What's his name?' Later identified as Ken Cromwell

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Host expresses positive sentiment about 1970s pinball history after reading Roger Sharpe book, noting market shift from operator-focused to collector-focused design paradigm

    high · Host contrasts 1970s 'money generating machines' with modern 'collector' environment requiring innovation, beauty, and depth

  • ?

    business_signal: GaryCon 2024 raised $120K+ for Children's Hospital of Wisconsin; Pokemon Pro machine sold for $10K+; Gary Stern participation signals manufacturer community involvement

    high · Host: 'for the whole con for the whole convention they raised over a hundred and twenty thousand dollars' and 'it went for over $10,000'

  • ?

    venue_signal: Lumberjack Johnny's arcade in Wisconsin shows strong Pokemon machine engagement with hosts reporting $20+ spend in single visit

    medium · Host: 'I think we put like what $20 in Pokemon that time we were there? Allegedly' and mentions returning for more play

  • ?

    collector_signal: Roger Sharpe pinball history book commands high secondary market prices; host searched extensively and paid premium price

    high · Host: 'this is the most expensive book I ever have bought' after extensive search through bookstores and thrift stores; purchased online

  • ?

    industry_signal: Hosts speculate whether major dealers/operators like Zach (venue operator) might launch new manufacturer startup, referencing JJP's success model

    low · Host: 'I wonder if there's going to be another one... like what would one of the bigger dealers just make start another startup... JJP showed you can do it'

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Pokemon machine at Lumberjack Johnny's has mechanical issue: return that drops straight down center, difficult to save

    high · Host: 'They're gonna fix that one. There's a fix for that return that drops straight down the middle... you have to like pick the machine up and move it'

    • 4:34
    Femaleiones academia.com혀production.net NCIO Band Could Have Been More, Chayote す' beiden, Loki],四つ, Ichigo للա чет� hon, Chai T presto r Stories, Wory Kื referrals, berga Chel Ki zag Chakka Like where a gigantic team works for forever to get one game. And I think that's one of the differences now with pinball, like compared to the seventies. Now the seventies had fine shooting machines. They were cool, but it was onto the next one within weeks. They're just next, next, next, you know? So they were using a lot of the same stock stuff. They were just a lot of the same shots, a lot of the same, everything different theme mixed up a little bit. They were money generating machines. Next, next, next. You know, yeah, so the volume was massive. But I think right now, like comparatively, the games now have to contend with so much more about like, they have to be innovative, they have to be super beautiful, they have to be perfect, they have to be like, deep code, awesome video, awesome audio, you know, and they're trying to push the envelope because there's competition. So I think, and it also transitioned from a money making thing that somebody's going to put on on route, use up until he can't use it no more than traded in or out. We're going to throw in the garbage. Now it's sitting in someone's collection to be judged next to all the other perfect judges. It's a much different environment. But it was so cool reading that. I also remember that I read that book that was from another country. Do you remember what I'm talking about? Yes. The one you bought at Expo. Yeah, I bought it at Expo. Maybe Columbia. Glad I can remember. I don't think it was Columbia. No, it wasn't. And so, like, it was just a different take on it, because it was, they were just keeping these things going, and it was very cool, you know, so every time you get a different perspective on the, on the hobby that you love or the, so it's always really neat. I would recommend grabbing it if you can find it. Good luck. It will not come cheap. Nope. And finally, like I looked and looked and looked, every time I went to a bookstore or a thrift store or any books, I was digging through it looking for this Roger Sharp pinball book, hoping I would score it for $1.50. I was like, we had gone to I don't know how many bookstores and I was like, can you show me a picture of a spine? Just so you can like so you know what you're looking for and not have to pull every book forward Yeah, you know what I mean? Like cuz they kind of grab your eye. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah So the needless to say this is the most expensive book I ever have bought All of that stuff. And I don't care. I finally would like to do it and I just did it and we got it off online sadly so it wasn't like an in person friend of a friend had one and sold it to us. It just was one of those. But you had your moment with Roger Sharpe while he signed it for you. Oh yeah, he signed it which was awesome. He said keep flipping Roger Sharpe and I will. Of course. So just a quick wrap up because I know this isn't book corner with Foghorn Leghorn. Oh, what's that? It is incredible. You know, and even if you can't buy it, if you can't afford it, maybe look at the PDF version, just read it. Yeah. Because it's worth it. It's very important. These interviews with these very important people in the history of pinball, and it's just really cool. So, yay for all that. I really loved it. Now I'm going to reread it. I know I'm going to go back and reread it and just kind of look at it more than read it, almost. You know, like, look at the pictures a little bit more in depth and it was a lot of fun. A big thumbs up, super thumbs up, I really loved it. So we also, obviously it's Pokemon crazy town. Pokemon fever running wild. Pokemon fever has hit us here in Greenville. It has. It's hit us, it's hit the world. It has. Stern is cranking them out. Measel Mods has a new mod that actually dispenses Pokemon cards. Oh my goodness. Out of the front of the machines, which is pretty much like dispensing crack out of a crack machine. I don't know. It's... That's... That is... Might be something that will really push a location machine over the top. Right. Because it... I mean, I'm sure it has to... It's... I didn't look into it too much, but at quick glance, I think you can set it at different levels like you have to hit 10 million, then it will give you a card. Oh, yeah. So it's not just spit it out when you do it. Or maybe you can do it. Just put in your buck and you get a card. I don't know. Yeah. There was recently, no, recently TPF went off. And there was a new Dennis Nordman machine, the Yeti machine, which was, it's like, I forget. There's like an, everything has like a name. I never remember this. It's Yukon Yeti. There you go. Yep. Whitewater II electric boogaloo, I think it is. I don't know. I think it's, I think it's Yukon Yeti Legacy. Okay. Mm-hmm. We are kind of Nordman super fans. We have a doctor dude. We have a... Wonelli. I think we had another one of his I think we got rid of. Sorry. But it was just like we have a lot of his stuff. Him and Ferraris are a big part of our collection. And I guess it's well received. I can't wait to see it. It's very white. Yeah. Which, why wouldn't it be? Right. I mean, Yeti, Snow. Right. I that would be popular like in Florida in like dead of summer Yeah When you like I remember we used to play that like snowmobiling yeah and Because you so just dying of heat exhaustion at every moment It Eddie Bereavement is like ah I'm gonna snowmobile in this awesome snowmobile though. It had fans on it So it blew cold air on you while you were yeah, yeah It was it was yeah, it was awesome. I really really liked it. So And that was, it was pretty cool. Yeah. I'm trying to think. So, we do really have Pokemon fever here. Oh yeah. We have decided that we should get some Pokemon cards. Right. So. We got three packs. We did. So we're going to open some here and see what we got. I have no idea. It's so funny. We have been playing that. It's a lot of fun. Playing? I think we're cracked out on it. Yes. It's on a lot. It struck me that as thinking about this, I was like, I don't really know what the heck Pokemon is. I know what they are. Yeah. But I thought they were something way different unless this is what Pokemon does just continually evolve because like I thought it was like a card game. Then I thought it was like a battle game. Now it's obviously like a run around and water plants and build a city game. What the hell is Pokemon? Like I don't even know. Pokemon was originally a card game where you would like like each card has stuff on it. Yeah Like tells you how much power someone needs I think. How to bake a good Bunt cake. Yeah, I love a good bunt cake Yeah, I guess I guess I just really didn't have a concept of what it was I thought it was just one of those card battling games, but it probably over time it had to like evolve Mygin Duong,
    12:49
    I have a flow sheet, All I need is POPs. Yeah. It's a super All crossover does work. Because the Jaws game came out, we played it, we went home and watched Jaws. We, Pokemon, King Kong, anytime there's a game that comes out, we immediately kind of dip our toe back into that world a little bit. So if you want to keep relevant, buy a pinball, be a pinball machine theme somehow. So I think Crab Bruce Alley is going nuts here. This is not going to make good radio. It is not. So we're going to start. Hold on, give us one sec. All right. Alright, so we've both opened our packets. So what did you get, Crafter Sally? My first one is Centret. It's a little like raccoon bunny. Oh, there you go. See? Awesome. And Scratch. So now what did yours say on it? Mine said Scarlet and Violet Surging Sparks. Wow, that sounds exciting. So mine says Scarlet and Violet Journey Together. Oh, gotcha. Yep. Alright, you have to pick it up a little bit. So what else have you got here? I have Zorua. We just got this one in the Pokemon. Oh, see. Pokopia. Yeah. I have Tropius. Okay. Swinoob. Alright. Corviknight. Huh. Spikey Energy. Wow. I got a Super Potion. Oh, I got some sparkly ones here. I got Cubone, Corvisquire, Waylord, and Basic Energy. Look at this one. Wow, big, big whale guy. I have Sphial, Sphial, S-P-H-E-A-L, I don't know, Capsa Kid, Larvesta, sounds like a car from the 70s. Let me get into my Larvesta and go down and get some palmols and some tang and then we're going to go to the, I don't know, quick, not quick trip, I don't know, it doesn't matter. R.I.P. John P. Dalmize, Warren Wallrein, Magnazone, that sounds cool, Goldingo, he's like a skateboarder guy? Goldango, gnarly bro, hang ten, don't have a cow. The sparkly ones are like Capsa Kid, Excadrill, wow he's scary. And I had basic energy. That's so mid and basic. Oh well. I don't know. Again, that was fun, but I don't know what any of that means. So, wow. If you need a sparkly, let me know. Send it out with a sticker, I guess, or something. Some of you are going to say, you said you'd do that. I'll look at it, it'll be a $1,000 card, I'll be like, I lied. So yeah, Pokemon has definitely been a lot of fun and I think they're going to make these I'm not a fan of that. I'm a fan of that game. I've been watching these for a long time. Yeah. Another rumor, I guess... Now, I don't know very much about this. The Dungeon Crawler Carl game is still the next thing that's supposedly coming out. What is this? That's a book series. There was a guy in my work that said, oh, you should read this. He was talking about this funny thing called Dungeon Crawler Carl. Okay. I was like, oh, okay. Then a couple weeks later after he told me that or whatever, I was like, hey, it's rumored The Next Pinball Machine and he was like yeah, it makes sense because it's really popular who is supposedly got it. Nobody knows. Okay I was the only reason I didn't I had forgot about it a little bit because I don't we don't read that the series huh, but then Zach and Dennis were talking about it on the pinball show and I guess he had he had stated Zach had said that the author was the one that kind of said that there was a pinball machine in the works Vander Hagen,
    17:41
    The IP? Yeah, I don't know. I shouldn't say maybe Spooky wouldn't do it, because Spooky kind of has a... They have a vibe. Yeah. Well, maybe though. Maybe this guy curses a lot and murders people a lot. Maybe. Yeah, very cool. With a chainsaw. Sure, why not? They just put a big sticker over the sides of the evil dead. Or, what do you call it, because don't they have Chainsaw Massacre too? I don't think they do that. They're much more in depth and quality. Of course they are. Of anything, their theme is not put a sticker on it. They are well beyond that. They're going for it. They are. They're almost like, they put so much in there, kind of like how JJP is where it's like, you know, over stuff, not over stuff, a lot of stuff goes into it is what I'm trying to say. Right, yeah. It's cool stuff. Who knows? We'll see if it even comes out. It sounds like it's gonna, but you know, who knows? I uh, now that made me think of how JJP like kinda started out. Remember like how, like well, cause the story we know, most people know the story of like how Spooky kinda started out and just, they're like one of those really, a good success story. You know, they're working for it, they're working their butts off and they're doing great. Um, started from small beginnings and just worked and worked and worked. And then you know, like when we interviewed JJP that one time, where we were at a uh, And then one of our first conventions really and he was talking and JJ he was talking about how he was a dealer for so many years and then just decided like you know to make the switch over you know I was and that made me start thinking of like I wonder if that's gonna happen like again like what would one of the bigger dealers just make start another startup you know like like I always think of like Zach kind of like he pushes he always he's always continually like evolving and growing his business you know and I and When I listen to him talk on air, he seems very, very focused on growth and positive growth, you know? Yeah. So I kind of, he kind of came to mind right away as somebody that was like, I wonder if he would ever do that. Like start making his own machines. That's a big, different world though. That's a huge jump. Yeah. Yeah, so it's not that it can't be done. Right. You know, JJP showed you can do it. I mean, you get the right people there. And he got that guy from JJP, right? Oh yeah, yeah. What's his name? Woo! I said I shouldn't have said that. Yeah, I was talking to him. It doesn't matter. So I mean, it matters, but we, we, we are drawing blanks. Wow. It's okay. So like, you never know though. Like, I wonder, like, is there going to be another one? Is there going to be another, another maker coming out of nowhere and just starting up? Ken. Ken Cromwell. There we go. Ah, thanks. Sorry. Ken. I don't think you'll listen, but if you do, sorry. It's not that we don't know your name, it's just my brain is Swiss cheese and I don't really remember very much of anything. So, it's okay. I'm surprised I don't know how to turn this machine on and record things. I don't think if I did it three times or four times a week, I don't think if I didn't do that, I probably would forget within 20 minutes. I'd be like, I don't know what this is. Oh, I doubt that. What is this magical thing doing? So I wonder if there going to be another one that dude down in Texas reviving American I should write him a letter Yeah And say if you need a remote graphic artist who can sometimes pop on down to Chicago I your man bro right I won I not gonna be the artist but I be the guy that does the grind work in the background that makes all the other graphics which I think people don't understand the reality of
    21:24
    There's a lot like graphics are kind of done by somebody who's an artiste and then hand it off to a I'm a graphical janitor as it were, and that's my life. I've been a graphical janitor for about 35 years. I'm very good at it where you take someone else's who goes, I'm much too important to care about your rules, and then they throw it at you and go, yes sir, and you go in your cubicle and you slave away for years, and to make it that it does what it's supposed to do with the rest of the world needs it. So, you know, so being a graphical janitor, I wish you could reach out to American and say, hey, do you need a graphical janitor? Because I am one. And I'm going to slide a number across the table. If you can hit that, I will be that thing for you remotely and sometimes in Chicago. So I don't know. We'll see. This is a new phrase for you. This graphical janitor thing. And it cracks me up every time you say it. I love this phrase because it is so incredibly accurate. I've been a production... anytime you work at a job that has the word production after it, that means you're gonna work a lot of overtime, not make a whole lot of money, but you're gonna kind of be able to say that you're kind of in that world that you like. So I've been a graphic artist and a graphic technician and a graphic this and that other thing in a production, and my quotes are coming through the microphone, a production role for my whole life, which means you're always gonna be able to find work. I'm going to be a graphical janitor where you clean up messes and make things proper for printing presses so the guy who didn't graduate high school can yell and go, I'm going to be like, oh, that's idiot something production, don't know what they're doing. And then they're going to go to their supervisor and be like, well, those idiots in graphics, I don't know what they're doing. And I'll be like, uh-oh, somebody didn't clean up the right puke, get the orange powder. That's not 20 or 30 years of frustration buildup. That's just how the life of a graphic janitor works. Anyway. Hey, if you're starting a pinball company, you might need one. Call me via email. Call me on the email line at I Need a Graphical Janitor at pinballjd at gmail.com. Local phone rates and minutes may apply. Anything after that stupidity? I don't know. There was so much truth in there. This is a little beyond that, back to reality. I listen to the, that's one of the shows I listen to a lot is Zach and Dennis' show. I like their interactions. It's a very informative show, kind of lots of news but some levity and some things you laugh at and goofiness. That's one I'm always in the bubble about joining their Patreon. There's a reason I don't and it's not the reason you think that I'm cheap. Well, it's partly that I'm cheap, but it's also they assign names to their people. But I don't think that people have any say over it. So one guy is a falcon or one guy is a ... But then they start doing things like the shaker motor or the bell. And I'm like, well, I don't want to pay 10 bucks a month and become the toilet plunger or some crap. I'm like, I don't know man. Some of them aren't so cool. Like, some of them are cool. You know, like the Falcon, or whatever, you're like, okay, that's alright, but I have a feeling they would know the connection, they'd know the Falcon, and I'd just be like the fried chicken or something like that. I'd be like, well I don't want that, and I'm not going to pay money to be that. I don't know. Patreons are hard for me. Do you do a lot of, do you do any Patreon? I have to say I really don't know what a patreon is. Yeah, you pay, you listen to people's stuff for free and then they put other stuff behind a paywall and go, well, if you like this dumb crap, pay me five bucks a month or 10 bucks a month and you can listen to more of my dumb crap behind a paywall. And we're going to have our secret, like they have a secret thing or a discord where only the only the the the people that pay money are on and then you can go on there and then you know, it's they're, they're okay. I'm not making fun of them. We never, I would never do that because as soon as you behind a paywall then you're on the hook for actual content. And I'm not really... And not just nonsense like this. You could be like, if you want this kind of dumbness and then you hear crickets and then maybe a tumbleweed would go by on the Patreon under our name and I'd be like, well, no one likes our off-brand of nonsense. So no $1.50 from them this year or this week. I'm a fan. It's okay. But I don't, and I don't, like I even have that one, that movie one that I like, those guys. I just don't. I don't know. There's already so many people and so many things taking my money. Right. Being a graphic janitor, I don't have a ton of disposable money. I keep the electric on and we can buy cheap pizza and call it good sometimes. But it's not like you want to, you know, saving up for an ex-pinball machine for God's sake. I can't just willy-nilly throw $120 a year away on content. Right. I don't know. What are you going to do? All right. I think it is time for a word from our official show sponsor. Saddle up the whole dang crew. Lumberjack Johnny's is calling you. Axes fly, skee-balls roll. Pinball popping, arcades glow. A hundred beers, hot smoked meats, pizza so good you're stomping your feet. Lumberjack Johnny, your fun time one stop retreat. That's right, visit a Lumberjack Johnny's near you in Appleton or Greenville. Green Bay. Yes, the other one. The other green. The other subdivision of Appleton. Green Bay. Yes. Go ahead. What do we got from them? So, this week we have a three-way tie for third. Saints be praised. Right. Yeah. What do we got? Stranger Things, Evil Dead, and Pulp Fiction.
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    I don't know why it got a lot of bashing. I thought it was pretty cool. All right, go ahead. And what do you think number one is? Star Wars. No. Pokemon. No. Harry Potter. A three-way tie between Star Wars, Harry Potter, and Pokemon. No. Speed Racer. It's Pokemon. Oh, it's Pokemon. It's Pokemon. I knew. I was like, mm-hmm, Pokemon. Yes. What are the bottom three? Okay. The dullest axes in the axe-throwing world. The slightly sharp axe is Iron Maiden. Ooh, Maiden! Yep. Peace of mind tour, bro. Okay, what else we got? And then the almost dull... Almost dull... ...is Elton John. Oh, Elton John! Which, that one surprised me quite a bit. With all those numbers dropping like that, he should probably just sell it to me on the cheap. Anyway, what's the axe that's so dull when you throw it even though it hits it just bounces and falls on the floor? There's actually two of them. Portal and no, what are they?
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    Fish Tales. Yes, take that Fish Tales. My many weeks of hatred towards you have finally paid off. And Deadpool. Deadpool? Yeah, I was surprised on that one too. Yeah, that's weird. I kid Fish Tales, it's fine. That's Deadpool. Wow. I'm gonna play that next time we go there just to help bring it up. Just to push it up a little bit. I think we put like what $20 in Pokemon that time we were there? Allegedly. Allegedly, yeah. At least 20. And now I think we went back and got more. And they're gonna fix that one. They're gonna fix that. I guarantee there's a fix for that return that drops straight down the middle. Straight down the center. Oh my god. You can't even like you have to like pick the machine up and move it. Wilson warned me and I was like, I'll still play it. Oh my god, I should listen to that warning. This is terrible. So, now, they were at Garycon? So, yeah, Lumberjack Dave is a huge Dungeons and Dragons. Yes, he is. He is. That's why he has those machines. Mm-hmm. So, he went to Garycon this year. Yeah. And Garycon is in Lake Geneva, Wisconsin. Oh, okay. And I didn't know what Garycon was. I knew what it was, yeah. So, it says, Gaming Convention Celebrating the Legacy of Dungeons and Dragons Co-Creator Gary Gygax, I'm probably saying that wrong. Yeah, I think that's a card you just pulled out of your pack. Oh my God, I got a Gygax. He throws dice at your eyes. It's in his hometown, which is Lake Geneva, Wisconsin. Nice. And that's where they formed the Geneva Convention. No. It might have been. No. Okay. You don't know. So it's tabletop games, events, and they also hold a charity auction. For world peace. No. Okay. It was Children's Hospital of Wisconsin. Take that kids. Right. We're here for world peace. No wait, my person. Take that world peace. I don't care about you. We're going to keep bombing you. Here's for some children so we can have them strong enough to fight for future wars. Yeah. Sad. So this year, Chris from Kingpin. Oh, cool. Chris donated one? Yeah. No. Oh. Now that kind of the Forschung cause Yeah so it just a buncha crap same old stuff Bond Premium and also a Pokemon Pro Nice And he said they were where they were gaming was right near the machines and he said that there were, there were people on them the whole time. Nice. Yeah. Which is really cool. It is. Because there is some, I do think that there's some separation between these groups where they wouldn't even think of approaching a game when they should because they are, more More and more modern games are made to like kind of say, okay, this is fun. Yeah. And there's a lot more. Yeah. This is what you like. So yeah, try this one out. And if you like this, look at these others. Yeah, very cool. But he also said that Gary Stern was there. Nice. Um, and he donated a Dungeons and Dragons pro for the charity auction. And they auctioned it off and it went for over $10,000. Man, that's awesome. And for the whole con for the whole convention they raised over a hundred and twenty thousand dollars for the Children's Hospital of Wisconsin. Nice. Yeah. That's cool. That is awesome. I think a lot of times the charity of our of our
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    hobby gets lost. Yeah. I personally have seen so much like giving. Yeah. You know, they don't have to. No. Yeah. So it's very, I think it's really cool. Tim Kitzrow, And I think, you know, that's part of the way to stay, not only stay relevant, but also like to say, hey, we're still here and we're still doing some awesome things. Yeah. And then it gets slowly gets out there more and more. Right. And I did ask Dave, I said, Is Gary Dungeons and Dragons player? And he said, no, no, oh my no. Gary is in the name of the convention. So, yeah. Yeah. So he probably just like, I'm gonna just go there and sit there and I'm Gary, you know? Yeah. But now we do know for sure Dwight Sullivan. Oh yes. Yeah. Hopefully he went with Gary and was hanging out because he is for sure a gamer and he is very much a Dungeons and Dragons aficionado. Oh yes. Because he wrote, he did the rule set for Dungeons and Dragons so you got to know something. Yep. Very cool. Yes. All right and thank you very much Lumberjack Dave and Atomic Nikki for always giving us some cool numbers to talk about and joke about. Now, I think it's time for everyone's favorite. Well, first we have to read our other email. Oh my god, I almost forgot about our other email. Oh, yes. It's from the Geneva Convention Center. It is not. In Lake Geneva Convention, Wisconsin, I think it's called. No. Okay. It is from Slippery Slapping Sprinkler Statute Saluting Siamese Silhouettes Signing Saught After Souvenirs. I do, I am a little sad that Samsonite left that moniker because the other one had Samsonite in it. I do like a dirty luggage. So go ahead, what do we got in that email? So this email says, the original was recorded when I got back from Expo with COVID. So, could you please replace the old song with this one? I understand if the answer is no, I love you guys either way. Yours, Twa Berry Truly. I don't. So, he's like this one. I guess got back from a convention and I have polio. No, the plague. So I did this one. It's a little bit better than the one I did with COVID and here it is. Here's our new exciting Crafter Sally song. Enjoy it like I know you will. Thank you very much Skateboarder Glenn, you are always a beacon of awesomeness. Skateboarder Samsonite Glenn. Yes, you'll always be Skateboarding Samsonite Glenn to me. Craft Brew Sally, you're gonna have to put your journal down. Craft Brew Sally child, you've been to all the breweries around. You've been running all over the town. metals being destroyed,
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    yeah money it's just his and 2. Our grand exchange granddaughter is that we go with? I don't know. Doesn't matter. I don't know. She's our granddaughter. Yeah, sure. So I went to Publix which was a freaking amazing because I miss Publix so bad. It's one of the only things we miss from Florida. Disney trips and Publix. Yeah, it's a couple of people. I mean we miss the people but these are the things that we miss. I'm walking down the beer aisle and I'm like I'm gonna get it I'm gonna grab some beer and I buy this beer because I think it's gonna go over well when I send a picture home and it didn't it didn't go over at all huh cuz it's called psychopathy okay yeah from that show you watch the psychopathy guys I was like oh this is brilliant no totally SCREENWRITER And I was like, this is excellent. It's an IPA. He's gonna laugh. She said it and there was a deafening thud. There was crickets. It was the same as our Patreon request. What is that, a tumbleweed? That's weird. And it's funny because it's like, it's like hop and the hop is capitalized. I was like, I laughed. Oh yeah, and I'm sitting there looking at it and I was like, what is this, like a joke on ICP or something like that? Nope. Insane Beer Posse, no? No. Psychopathy. Yep. Well, how was it? It was good. Yeah? Yes. Who made it? It's made by Mad Tree Brewing Company in Cincinnati, Ohio. Wow. Sin. At. E. Yes. Nice. Yeah. Jokes didn't go over well. That's okay. Beer was good though. Yeah, it was. Would you get a different kind from that place? Um. Like, was it like, because sometimes you'll have a beer and you'll be like, oh, this So good like that. Zool that we found out a member of the tribe lives by. Jay Hall. I'm so jealous. Jay Hall might get some squatters when you and Andrea meet up down there. Maybe. We're going to crash a tent in your backyard. Is that cool? We're all zooled up and ready to fall over. Yup. Maybe September. Yeah. So was that good like that or just a good beer? It was good. Yeah. I mean. Not going to sneak it out? I probably wouldn't. Who was the maker? Madtree. Yeah, you told me that already. I'm sorry. Yeah. Well, there you go. I mean, it was a decent IPA. Like, look, most beers are just good, average beers. Yeah. I mean, there's some IPAs out there that are really good. Like, you know, one other place that I miss from Florida. Yes, Arcane Brewery. Well, no, Cigar City, High Lie IPA is my favorite. I bet you can get anywhere now. We're going to have to go to a place that has yingling on tap, I think.
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    Oh yes, I had one. I haven't had a yingling on tap that I can ever remember other than when we went to tour yingling and then you're just drinking all those little cups of beer, yinling or whatever, you know. They didn't really have a limit on how much you could drink. They had a time limit. Wasn't that the place that was like, you could drink as much as you want in these I can't remember, that was like one of the first breweries we went to. Then we went with Andrea and someone. I don't know. Yeah, who cares. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Well, that's going to do it. Do you have anything else? I do, actually. Oh my God. The Project Pinball is starting a new raffle tomorrow. Oh. Yes. They're going to raffle off Yukon Yeti. Really? Yep. There's going to be 200 entries, $120 each. Dang, that's cool. That's awesome. I think this is kind of a limited run. Whatever. Very cool. So if you are looking to get a Yukon Yeti, go head on over to Project Pinball before they sell out and grab yourself a couple raffles. Starting tomorrow. 3-26. Yes, that date. Yep. And if you're listening to this in the future, you probably missed it. And we probably didn't win it. So, invite a time machine, invent a time machine, go back in time to the 26th and buy your raffle. Maybe you'll win that Yukon. Or you can just go back and steal gold bars and then you can buy whatever you want. Or use it for good. Go back to the Geneva, Wisconsin and help them form a better... Lake Geneva. Help them form a better Geneva Convention to help with no mustard gas. And peace on earth and goodwill towards men. All of this is happening on Pinball Junk Show, the pinball show, and we hope to see you again next time. We done? I think that's all I had on my notes. Shazbot Nanu Nanu. Go buy Pokemon cards. Yes, and that. Or go play really well on a place that has that mod on the front of the machine and then get a free card. We're getting... Nah, never mind. Maybe you too will be lucky enough to get a... Towel Seam or a Walrein. I was hoping we'd get a Charizard. Yeah, sure, me too. Nope. That's it, man. Game over, man. Game over.