We're live here at my bedroom and Manu's bedroom or his office. Where are you, Manu? Are you in your bedroom? No, it's in my I'm in my office. Okay. I would hope so because there's a whole game cabinet in there. That's a I mean, actually, that's a really cool bedroom setup if you think about it. Yeah. Um Yeah. What's up? You want me to start it off? Yeah, let's get this started. That was you That was you starting it off. That was me being silly. I was just like I saw the timer go down. I was like, "Oh, I'm going to get Manu with a little intro." Never stop being silly. Hello everyone. Welcome to the Pinball Manor Report. This is Manu and I'm Erica. And uh Erica, what's going on? What What's the show about this time? Uh so we are just getting started here, Manu. We're talking about pinball because we just have so much fun with our stuff in our lives and we get involved in a lot of pinball things and I'm ready to talk about TPF. We went to that and there's a lot of fun things about it that won't end up in my recap. The Texas Pinball Festival out of um is it Frisco or is it outside? It is in Fris. Frisco. Well, yeah. Frisco is like the address that I saw it in at the John something at the embassy suites on John Hammonds or something street. Yeah. But um a big gathering of pin heads and companies. Is this is this your this is your first one? Is it ever? That was my first Texas Pinball Festival. Yeah. I had never gone to Texas Pinball Festival before that. So it was really fun. Let's get this out of the way quick. Texas Pinball Festival or uh Pinball Pinball Expo? Which one was your jam? Ooh. Oh, wait. Ow. Why would you do this to me? Mhm. Uh, I really Well, like if I wanted more of a party than I think maybe Texas. Um, cuz it felt less corporate. It felt like less corporate than what Expo feels like. Expo feels like I'm a pinball company. I'm here to represent that I have a pinball company. And then Texas is like, "There's some of us here, but otherwise we're just vibing and playing games." And so I think it's what you're looking for because um I like both. Um I guess this time around um I really But the homebrew booth at Expo is just so epic. The homebrew booth was twice the size. Yeah. In terms of number of homebrews. Mhm. Yeah. Um that's a hard one. I I'm going to have to say that that Texas was really fun um for me on this time around, but Expo was also so fun. I didn't real I'm sorry. I didn't mean to set you up with such a tough question. Yeah. Why would you? They could both exist. They could both exist and we're okay. Yeah. Um what about for you? I'm going to put you in the hot seat. Okay. So, moving right along. No, I agree 100%. Uh TPF is like a party and Expo is a little more corporate. But I I gota I got to say this. When Rob Burke Rob Burke basically said, "Hold my beer." Like bought all of his games to Expo, really kind of cranked it up, you know what I mean? And so Expo went from one year it was pretty boring that I went and then the next year it was the most insane thing and I just had to go again. So it was uh it's close but they there you are all right there for two different type of people. Yeah definitely I would say um the the bigger the pin head you are like if you are more into the companies and meeting the designers and doing all that stuff with them then that's that's the show to go to. Um expo dang it not I want to say expo. Can I change my answer? Expo expo is all about the seminars right? TPF is not really about the seminars. So, there are seminars though. I just There are seminars, but yeah. Or capture little clips of each of them. Yeah. Um, but either way, we're going to talk about some I'm going to We're going to talk about some of the manufacturers that were there. Who stole the show? We got Spooky Pinball. Did you get a chance to play Beetlejuice? Beetlejuice. And I only said it twice because I don't show. You don't want to show. Yeah. Um, yeah. I There were so many Beetlejuices there. That was pretty sick. Uh, and made it feel super easy to play. Like I just felt like at any time you're waiting less than 10 minutes. You could just get in line behind somebody. Sometimes I would see them open. Like no one was even playing one. And I was like, "This is awesome." Because they brought enough for like everyone to get to play and enjoy. It was a little crowded. I'm not going to lie. Like with being in that line, like it was hard to create a line for those ones, right? So, some of the more wall machines, maybe if you were if you were really strategically planning your games to play, that maybe you would huddle in those little corners there because the line couldn't get to be so long so that you play sooner. But that game honestly was so fun. I'm I'm so stoked for whoever is getting it in the Bay Area. I think the Flipper Room's getting one. I'm not really sure, but um Indie Darling's getting one. Oh man, that's gonna be sick. They're great. That game feels like there's a lot to learn. Um I don't know. I got to hand it to Spooky. They kind of just like they just like drove in their lane and then just like slowly started just like just I don't know what happened. They like a something that they did that just every game is just hitting. Yeah, Evil Dead's been really great. I'm not even like a spooky like I'm not either. I don't like scary, but I will play those games, which is kind of nice for me because I know I'm not going to watch Texas Chainsaw Massacre, but I'm play it. Yeah. It makes it a little less scary. But the noises and everything. Oh, it's so creepy and gross. The only complaint I heard about that game was too much green flashing. I'm like, well, okay. All right, then alter your games with the green. I don't know. Put a filter. That's an easy code update, though. like lights and stuff is super easy to to fix. I'd be willing to bet they have something in the settings that go, "Do you want green flashing? Yes." No. Green flashing. No, cuz it's Beetlejuice. Like, why wouldn't you want green flashing? I don't know. You said it one more time. Sorry. Does the person have to say it three times or I think you have to say it three times. Okay. So, yeah. Anyway, good job. I've already said it twice now. You did. Um, I guess that's all that's all there really is to say about Spooky and they're just whatever. Okay, we're going to just make awesome games. Yeah. No, it's honestly and it's it's so cool. I wonder if their next one would end up being something like a Looney Tunes tweet uh Texas Chainsaw Massacre where it's the the double, right? Like a double release. Good question. But their games have been so good the way that I think they should focus on one. Yeah. Just focus on it. Good experiment. Yeah. Well, cuz they did it also for, you know, Ultram Man and and Halloween, which is also really cool. So, um yeah, props to Spooky. I hear they might be coming to a local show of ours. Bringing some games to Golden State. Yeah. Really? Like for real Spooky Spooky? Bug is coming out. Like Bug had said that he looks like he's coming to Golden State. He had like uh stopped me on my way to the elevators back to my room and was like, "Hey, I hear this your local show. Are you going? Like is it is it a cool one? Is it fun?" So it looks like they're going to bring like six games. So um that would be super sick if they they do actually come out. Um I'd be really excited for that. Cool. Yeah. Um Whitewater 2. I'm sorry. You I'm sorry. Let's take two. 3 2 1 Yukon Yeti from Turner. Hi, this is Turner. This game is Oh my god, he's so gentle. He's such a gentle sweetheart. It's a beautiful day, Anthony. Um, you know what? The game freaking slaps. Period. I got a couple of complaints, but the game, like the pinball game of Yukon Yeti, let's go. Yeah. No, I only had one game on that. I waited. I got there early with like when the the vendors get to kind of go in cuz I had like one of those special passes for like shooting stuff for Marco. And so I got in a bit early and I still waited like half an hour to play this game. And I was only behind two people. They were just both really good at pinball. So, um, the game was a lot of fun from what I experienced and I like the avalanche. That's pretty fun to to watch. Yeah, it's a good riskreward there. Dennis Nordman and his uh apparently this design was passed over by David Fix when David was running American Pinball or something like that. It was at American Yeah, that was a big whole thing on um the uh what's the big pinball website? I forget. Nap Arcade. Yeah, Nap Arcade. Go back in time and read that. But uh I could be wrong, but there it was supposed to be on at another pinball manufacturer and Chris Turner and their guys I guess managed to snag it. Besides the I mean I mean a lot of people are saying this the the music and the callouts just aren't up to the same level as the pinball machine itself or as Whitewater, which everyone's going to compare it with because there's no denying that it's a Dennis Nordman follow-up to Whitewater. Yeah. And so just this morning I was you know at the shop and someone was playing WHITE WATER AND MAN OVERBOARD. SHOOT THE FLASHING LIGHTS YOU KNOW IT'S just like and then you know it's a little different. So I hope they work on the sound. Yeah, I'm sure they will. I mean I I I see some some things that look like they might be cooking. So we'll see what happens. And uh yeah cuz the sound package definitely was uh interesting. It's hard though, you know, like it's uh there's a lot to do when you're already building a game and you got all the bits and pieces to put together. Um and Turner is still relatively new, right? They have Ninja Eclipse and Merlin's Arcade and Yeah. So, we'll see what we'll see. I'm such a stickler for sound, though, cuz I Oh, yeah. You know, I'm in the Jeff Dodson camp of everything every sound needs to be amazing and everything has to make a sound. Um, and like after doing a homebrew myself and being the guy to do all the sound, um, it is it's awesome. It is, it is. Yeah. Yeah, you could say it's tough, but it's a it's definitely half of the experience. Um, even though you're in a loud arcade camp, you're in a loud arcade, but obviously this is like not just uh pinball machines now are not just advertised for for arcades anymore. you know, a lot of especially with these runs of like 500, like 500 units, like that's uh definitely something that feels like it's meant more for the home, but I do really hope a lot of arcades snag them. From my understanding, they're not sold out yet. They have 500 and uh they're not yet sold out, but I have a feeling within the next few months we'll see an announcement where they do. I just uh feel like more people will play it cuz right now just Texas played it. And like if you played it at Texas, you waited at least like an hour to play it, right? Like it was like Disneyland. They only brought two games, which was still cool because that they had anything to bring to show at the show, which was great. My other gripe is the price point. Yeah. I mean, and I I understand if you're they're only making 500, they will sell out 500 at 10,000. No doubt. Um, but it's mostly going to be collectors and so whatever, right? But I mean, I can complain about the price all day. Like it's pinball. It's pinball. Yeah, it's powdercoated. I saw the light show on it. The lights are look really good. The lights are great. Yeah. Whoever's on the whole design, the everything looks really great. I also really enjoy Brad Duke's artwork. Uh, he's been doing their art for all their games. It's very like animation kind of style thing that I'm like more into. So, I I'm not in that camp. Um, I will say that artwork is too it's not See, here's the thing. It's like it's almost like one last thing about this game and all their games seem to be you can't really complain. Like, they are fine. This is my opinion. They're fine, but there's no like soul like dirt like grit. Like I need I need something that have like a little edge, some grit, some soul, some dirt. Um, and speaking of a game that maybe doesn't have grit, soul, and dirt. Uh, Pokemon. Yeah. Same as Segue is not supposed to have dirt and soul and grit. There you go. Um, did you get to play Pokemon at all? I didn't play Pokemon at all at this show. It was very sad. Uh, the lines were so long and I've been so lucky to get to play it. You know, I went to Stern and I went to their media day and I played Pokemon there. That's right. You did it. You already And then I played the Electric Bats Pokemon. I went out to the Electric Bat, played their Pokemon. That was really fun. I did pretty well, I think, on that. And yeah, I logged in once at the fun booth on John Wick. I was putting up some scores on John Wick, playing some of that. So, I wanted to get the TPF badge if they had one going on there at that booth. So, I wanted to make sure I got it. Did you you probably got it. You probably logged in and put a bunch of time in for what? Um, no, actually I for Pokemon. Yeah, like just insider connected. Did you Insider Connect during No, I did. I did zero. In fact, I don't think I played a Stern. I was I mean, not for any hatred. I was busy with Barco and the homebrews. Yeah. Um, I did get a really wonderful tutorial of Pokemon from um Isaiah over at Frele Watch today on stream. As far as Pokemon's concern, I you know, I like it. It's simple. Um, it's a seven shot array. Some people say six. I think there's seven shots there. It's a fan layout as they would say. And I think Stern needs this to I told I was I was telling the story to people anybody I see is um the other day at Frele watch a kid came in a young really young small kid came in saw Pokemon pointed to it like like he just saw the biggest rock star on the planet was like Matt said he couldn't even talk. The kid wanted to play so much. So the dad just brought over like a little Marco stool, set it down, and they flipped on it and he was like, "Yeah." You know what I mean? And that's the customer you want. Yeah. For Pokemon. Oh, definitely. No, I I I seen it at the show, too, when I was at walking around TPF. Some kids just like, this is the best thing. Like that's like their that's their pinball moment that they're having right now. And that's very exciting. And it's important to have that kind of excitement from young kids because if Pokemon was their pathway into pinball, then thank you Stern, right? Thank you for bringing this generation up and to say maybe something else is fun. Yeah. I mean, I I hear that Dungeons and Dragons has done a huge thing too for that community and they've now been taking those games out to other conventions that are not pinball focused at all. They're just Dungeons and Dragon conventions. And now you have all these new people joining in. I And I've seen on uh like I've I've kind of looked at the numbers on Stern's Instagram and social media and stuff like that. And like they went up a lot when Dungeons and Dragons came out really. Um yeah, when I was when I was there for the John Wick release, Stern's Instagram following was only like 60K, like six 60,000. Now it's in the hundreds. I would have to like look it up, but yeah, they're definitely in the hundreds. That's exciting. Yeah. So, they it's it's it's growing. Pinball's growing and it's really exciting and I like it. I like it. I like it a lot. Let's uh you quickly talk about Harry Potter and Portal. Those things were already announced. I did go get to talk to my boy uh Eric Minure. I showed him my custom topper I made for Harry Potter. Oh, nice. I didn't realize you made a custom one. I did. It's a free go watch. Oh, man. Well, when I go play in League on Wednesday, I'll go I'll go check it out. you can go. Yeah, ignore it. Don't like everyone else. But um No, they were there. They had Harry Potter. Um and Multimorphic was there. They had their Portal and Okay, there you go. Both two amazing games. Yeah, great game. I actually put time in on Avatar. Avatar is fun. I don't get to play that often, so I was like, I see Harry Potter out on location now. So, I went to go play Avatar since only one place in the Bay Area I know has it. So, it's fun. It Yeah, I really like that game. Yeah, good job, Mark. Yeah. Um I'm excited cuz his I think the from what I understand the next game's probably Steve Ritchie and then it's Mark again. So, I'm really looking forward to seeing what what do you think what do you think Steve Ritchie is? I think I know what Steve Ritchie is. Steve Ritchie. Everyone says the rumor is like um is uh Sonic, right? Um but I wonder if that's Mark's game. It should be Mark's game. I think Steve Ritchie should have like another like I feel like Steve might have a have a band. Yeah, band. Steve Ritchie Beeges. Well, Steve just did Elton. That was his last game with them. And then and then after Elton was Harry Potter, right, which was Eric and Steve's new game, David Bowie. No, it was it was Elton John and then it was Avatar and then it was Harry Potter. So then yeah, Steve again um coming up and then Mark and then Yeah. Steve Ritchie's um Ambrosia. I don't know. Maybe Journey. Steve Ritchie's Journey. Yes. Prince or No. No. Don't put Steve Ritchie near Prince. What is wrong with you? What's going Wuang Clan? I don't Steve Ritchie. Yo, that's the one pairing I could see. I could see Steve Ritchie like Wuang forever. Um, finish him. Finish him. Yo, that'd be serious. What's going on over at American Pimple? Cuz there's like all new people that I don't even recognize. You don't know? Oh, so they got the electric uh playground guys. So, they got Rob uh and uh Nick. Uh Rob was making toppers. Tony Hawk. Yeah, that's Nick. Uh Nick made Tony Hawk uh pinball. And um uh it's cool. Actually, I just saw a video of Tony Hawk on Instagram where uh some guy made a Lego thing that he's trying to get to win a Lego competition and Tony Hawk like invited him out to come see his spot and so he could show him his Lego creation. It's super sick. And Tony Hawk then like brought them into his game room to like show some stuff. And I saw Tony Hawk has a skateball and a radical in his collection in this game room. I like the nerd in me. I was like, "What is that?" And so I'm like I recorded the video so I could like pause it and then I went back and I paused it. I'll probably clip it in somewhere. But um that's pretty slick. Yeah. So he's got a And it's a beautiful radical. It looks like maybe he even has the one that was like all souped up at Expo a few years ago cuz like he's got this shiny blue like metallic powder coat on it. So nice. Of course he does. Um but yeah. Oh, I played a lot of Portal though. I know you kind of we went to American, but I just um going back to to Portal real quick. I played a lot at the multimmorphic booth because I don't get to play all those multimmorphic games all the time, right? And man, I was playing Portal and I was getting the faith plate and I was doing all the the ramps and things. It was a lot of fun. You know what's funny about Portal? I have it and I for a while I it's it's hard for me to get down to the garage and play and therefore I wasn't thinking that much of the game. And then like just last night I went down because Jerry gave me Jerry from Multim gave me a hint about how to get scores. How's everyone getting scores? He's like basically if you do this and you do that. Anyway, I went down in the garage. I did this and I did that and I was like holy smokes there's a whole new game here. So yeah, that's it's it's rare to get access to all the Multimmorphic games, but when they come out to TPF, they bring all the almost all the games and you get to flip all of them. I was really digging Final Resistance again. People keep telling me I have to buy it. I think I'm gonna buy it. Yeah, that game is so good. Maybe we can split it and we can show custody. Yeah. I mean, I'm happy. Whatever module I have, you have. So, it's cool. Yeah. I That's what you heard what I said at the uh at the seminar. I was like Erica and I like trade them like Yeah. Something like that. Yeah. No, it's it's fun. No. And I played heads up a lot with heads up. So, that was like we were like again Yeah. Okay. Best two out of three. Uh, best two, best out of five. You know, heads up for people who don't know is a multimmorphix. There's it's like two games connected to each other and you play against the other person and there's a um fun and then when you lose a ball, it sends it over to them. Or if you get it in the wrong one, it sends it to the other person. Now you don't have a ball and you're like, "No." You have to hope that they like lose the ball. And like I had been doing so bad and like I was playing with my partner Ro and he was like just like and I was like losing so bad towards the end after the first few games he was like getting into it and then I was like I'm game over man. It's like he's got it. He's got the strat down and I'm just surviving. They definitely have the tech. I just need one insane designer to come out with a game that, you know, the killer app right now. Um, and I feel like Multimorphic should leverage a little bit of like hiring designers outside of when Scott Danesi did Final Resistance, that was huge. Yeah. Um, but generally speaking, I think I mean I, you know, I give them credit where credit is too due. They're good designers, but then there are also amazing designers out there who probably have ideas that could lend itself better to Multimorphic. So, anyway, you've got such a crazy platform. Yeah, we could talk about that for a while, but um yeah, I could skip back to American Pinball if you if you want. You got anything else to say about American? I mean, that's all new to me. I mean, yeah, with Rob and Nick, they are moving over from Electric Playground, and I saw that Electric Playground is like hiring more of a team. So, it looks like they'll be probably helping out American with those toppers, too, and probably making that sort of um partnership from from what I I can see. But, uh they're just such good people. I really like the Electric Playground. They are always incredibly kind to me, at least. I've had a lot of really great interactions with them and they seem to want to do a lot with their communities and try to get people into this. It's like a very niche thing, a topper, right? Like that's not like huge in like it's huge in pinball, but it's not huge in pinball. People talk about basements. I don't like have to worry about that headroom space, but like when Spooky came out with their giant snake on top, people were like, "Where am I going to put it? it's not going to fit in my basement. And I'm like, in California, I don't deal with the basement size. But I can understand that that's a thing. But it's cool cuz I think that's going to show a lot of really great change for American Pinball. I was really worried cuz I was thinking that maybe like a that it was going to go through like a haggus situation, you know what I mean? So unfortunate. Sorry to bring up another company like that, but um I'm glad to see that they are like they're reviving themselves, that the people are excited. I'm excited. I want them to succeed. Like there is no there's no part of me that's like, "Oh, I hope this pinball company feels like that doesn't that's not good." So, I want people to succeed. And I'm so But one thing I am really grateful is that they changed their logo. Um, their their AI logo was like really bothering me. Like they made this um just impromptu AI logo for American Pinball and now they've changed their logo. Yeah, you didn't see it all weekend, bro. Come on. Their booth was right next to the market. I'm looking at Oh, that's cool. Did you got Did you have your glasses on during the show? Jeez. I was I was not even looking straight. I couldn't see ahead of me. Um I see it. Yeah, it's much better. It's cool. Yeah, it's much better. Um, it looks a little like I don't have it with me, but I have a hat of Balies. Yeah, it does. It kind of looks a It's a little But it's it's it's slight, but it's very cool cuz like people there's that connection to that already. And they're going they got the contract with Planetary, right, to make um Williams and Valley games. So Cirus Volter. Circus Voltater. Yeah, they they revealed that they'll be making Circus Voltater. I haven't played that game very often. What are you excited for that? Yeah, I mean, sure. I mean, Circus is a fun game, but they already kind of have the topper, don't they? They have the Oh, Was I supposed to say that? I don't know. I saw their top I saw electric electric playground made a topper. Was it for Circus Voltater? Yes. I thought they made a No, there was It was definitely Voltater. Yeah, it does a thing that Voltater does. Anyway, don't remember. Maybe maybe we should I remember they had a You want to cut this part out? No. Um we we are editors. We have We are both editors. We both understand media very well. Yes. Um yeah. No, I think that that's cool. Uh and that they're working on some good good things and I'm excited. Circusville Terror, I'm I'm kind of like it doesn't excite me the way that some of the like Pokemon Yeah, like whoa, I'm super stoked. But like Circusville Terror, I'm kind of like I like pinball history and I love learning about it and the games, but that's not a game that I've played that's really like pulled me. But sure, that being said, I'm not the audience. I am um yeah. Yeah, that's just not for me. But I do enjoy playing the remakes and I will play them and support them at my local arcades. So, I give back in that way cuz not everything needs to go in my home cuz that's not where pinball's only supposed to live, too. Cuz if it's in everybody's houses, how are you supposed to play it and find out if you like the game? Yeah. Whole other thing. Yeah. Good luck. Good luck to American Pinball. Keep going. Let's see some more games. The Houdini art though, too, was really nice. Franchie did a really cool job on the new art for the new Houdini 100th anniversary. That's what they were selling at the show. Only a hundred of them. Um, So, Houdini though is such a hard game. Like I think if they just made it a widebody and they like adjusted things just slightly, the game Oh my god. Don't Don't say widebody lost half or listen. I just I just I just feel like that's the shots are so tight. Like if you just needed more space to fit it all in, just like add the few extra inches and make it a little bigger so that you can make it so the tights the tight shots aren't cuz like you hit the ball up and then it'll go and then come back down. It's like not satis. They've always been really tight on you have to like be a precision like maybe they should put some precision flippers in there. You have to be a precision flipper. Is that what you want to say? Yeah, man. I mean, some of the games I play with precision flippers in them just like they're killer. I really like them. I think that some of them play a lot better. Don't you guys have some You guys have precision flippers. You had them in Guardians at in Guardians in Metallica. It's in and Dragon. Dunge. Oh, yes. Dungeons and Dragons. I was doing killer on my League night game with Dungeons and Dragons with those precision flippers. I'm just I mean not a sponsor, but hey, if you want to Yeah. Let's talk. Um, what about Barrels? Barrels. Oh, I mean, Barrels is great, too. They've got some great games. Barrels. Barrels of fun. The barrels of fun with They had their their um They had their um barrel ball games on the Friday night and the Saturday night 60. Yeah, it was out in two seconds. Oh. Eliminated immediately. Barrel ball, if you guys don't know, is actually stall ball. So, it's a game called stall ball where you line up and then you you go in, you make one shot, and you go to the end of the line, and if you uh hit the red shot, you you're eliminated or if you drain, you're eliminated. So, you just got to keep the ball going. Barrel ball. Barrel ball is a uh basically stall ball, but they put it into the it's in the pinball machine. So, Dune has it, Labyrinth has it. I think all the barrels of fun games. Winchester will have it. I guess they just did it on Dune and on Labyrinth this week, this that past weekend. That's so fun. I love Stall. Stall is such a fun game. I didn't get to play it. I I was so tired. Like I did a lot at the show. A lot of different things. You and me were both kind of working it. So yeah, we were working. Um I think my brain was just like I don't then another line to wait in. I can't. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. like I don't Rise of Resistance over and over and over. I just couldn't I couldn't uh do that. So, um but also it was really cool because Flipronics went and stream that as well. You can go ahead and watch the stream on Yeah. to Flipronic with Rebecca and Jordan. Um they were super great too and they brought their stream so that we could have it at the homebrew section. Yep. Yeah. So, uh not as big as Expo, but still exciting and amazing. We got to see a lot of things. We got to finally catch up with Kyle and his Friday the 13th pin. Yeah. Um, did you play the Tiki? Yes. Tiki Tapoo. Tiki Tapu. That was fun. That was so fun. I think is his name, or Nate, I think his name's Nathan. I'm so sorry right now, dude. I'm I'm gonna remember later. But yeah, um, his game was great. And um it was the the design, the look, and he got approval from the artist cuz it's not like his original art. It's like an art from Shaggy. Shag shag question mark question mark some famous Disney artist. Uh but he kind of like photoshopped and like added and and changed things himself. Um cuz he had little aerials, you know. He had a little aerial that sound a little weird. So he had little aerials. Yeah. A little air. It didn't sound weird until you said it sounded weird and then it sounded weird. Yeah. Go ahead. Oh, I'm getting a cold. That Cayman had uh their Alice in Wonderland or Pinball in Wonderland that they were working on. Um, there was a uh King of the Hill pinball, which I don't I don't I'm not sure if we streamed that. No, we didn't stream it. Um, he was uh working on it a bit, but um I did see it working towards the end of the festival, so some people got to flip it. Um so that was uh he's local to Tacoma, so he'll be bringing the game to TP uh to uh Northwest Pinball Show. Nice. I saw George Gomez and Jack Danger kind of sneak up to that and check it out. Yeah. Um I think one of the but one of the hits of the show outside of Big Trouble in Little China which no one can get enough of. That game is so good. That game is really good. Kyle is cheating. I think it was Kyle Kyle. Kyle Smith. Smut. Okay. They bought that game. We've smmet before. I'm so glad to meet you. Um they I swear they bought that game from some manufacturer that we don't know about and just put it out on the floor. That game is done. That's a that's the game is like commercial quality. Yeah. No, that game is excellent. I mean he's got Randy Martinez as an artist on it. Um yeah, it's got some really great clips. I mean it had a line all weekend long. All weekend long that game playing. Can I tell you that some lady got real super salty because we had to stream it? Oh yeah. And so we were look, we were trying to be as unobtrusive as possible and as polite as possible, but at the end of the day, we are in the Marco pin Devcon uh homebrew area and honoring the creators of these games is priority number one. Not one person who's in line who has to wait 10 minutes to play this game. This woman got so mad. We were like, "Hey, we're going to have to cut the line for a second cuz we want to interview the guy who made this game." Yeah, I remember. And she was like, "Okay, fine. We're going to go complain about this." I'm like, "Where where are you going to complain? Who are you going to complain to?" Like, we we were like, "Okay, go complain. I don't know. You know what? Pinball people, just chill out." Really? Yeah, that's uh that's so tough, man. Yeah. No, I I felt I felt bad about that. But I know that we were we were on a time crunch. We only had people for a certain amount of time. We're live. I didn't have the resources or means to things changed in the schedule. Like people were like, "Oh, hey, actually that time slot you signed me up for, can I like do it later?" And I'm like, "Oh, yeah. We have to be flexible to that, too. Be flexible and uh change some things." So, I'm super grateful for all the creators that came out to come help stream, too. We had um we had Flipronics come help stream. You were there and then uh Retro Ralph and Jamie Burchil came out and then even uh Don from Don's Pinball Podcast came out to be on for a little bit. So, Jeff Dirty Pool as well. Yeah. So really grateful for all those creators and I'm building um a database for that so that for future shows and definitely took a lot of notes from it as well to better have a better I think it was something that we didn't uh predict as well because I know at expo you you for the stream you took each game away and you brought it to its own personal spot. So, it was a very different experience. But for this one, like having that um and I I kind of felt like I tried talking to these people and being like, "Hey, so sorry. We're going to do the stream here." Like, we just um were doing it for this thing. And I wish I had like a little plaque or a little whiteboard or something I could put up on games being like, "This game will be streamed." Like, or maybe I can talk to like Emoto or Marco about having some sort of like these games. Yeah, you're going in the weeds. It's all good. Erica, you did an amazing job. Thanks. That's my like producer film. I know you turn into producer mode. Did everyone just saw it happen live on the air? Um, I do want to shout out to Brad Holiday though for bringing Top Gun. That was like the showstopper right there. So, this Top Gun pinball machine that Brad created all on his own um was amazing. Um, I saw Mike Vinikour over there shooting on it from Stern. We got to chat uh uh Becca from Flipronic got to chat with Brad, but um posted something really nice on his Facebook about how the community was, you know, amazing and awesome and all the support that they got from the building of the game. So I told Brad, you know, you're cheating. He's like, what do you mean I'm cheating? Cuz your your background music is danger zone. That's not high to the I mean you can't that you already won. Yeah. Um No, his game was excellent and that's his first game. He's never built a pinball machine before and it was just like something that he loved and I loved watching the seminar which you can catch on uh Texas Pinball Festival's like YouTube channel and he said a lot of really wonderful things about when he was making his game and what he did and um I think that it's so cool to see what the homebrew community is coming up with. Like I'm very inspired. I'm going to be starting starting up next month. Oh boy, April. I'm uh I'm doing it. I've bought the I've bought the parts. I have the homebrew kit. You help me open it. And um I got my dad and that's what Yeah, there you go. If I didn't have my dad making this pinball machine would be a lot harder, but I would also probably look for a team kind of like the way that um like I really like Cayman. Yeah. Like she she found a team. She's a lead designer, but she found other people that like cuz it's pinball. You can't pinball's not as fun alone, right? That's very true. I I agree. I don't know if other people agree, but I agree with you. Yeah, I think that pinball is fun and meant to be enjoyed with others. What's the point of me knowing all the facts of a designer and everything if I have no one to share it with? Be like, "Oh yeah, I'm going to play this little game by myself." Like, I know that this is Steve Ritchie. Like, okay, I know that it's Steve, but like I should be able to share that with people. Um, so pinball is meant to be shared. That's why we can put in up to four players, maybe six if you're playing Scooby-Doo. So, or five. I think it's five. Uh, is it five? Is it I think And you could put six in for Godzilla. For the older Godzilla, not new Godzilla. It's Velma, Daffany, Fred. Fred, Shaggy, Scooby. Yeah, I think. Yeah, it's five. Um, I think uh that's Spooky. Scooby-Doo goes up to five so that you could play the gang. Um, and then Godzilla old warun like the the old that was six. That was That was Sega trying to be We could play six players. Imagine being the sixth player and be like, "I'll be back in an hour." Um, speaking of everyone playing together, one thing I want to give a shout out to is my guys Ron and Jay over at Scorbit. Yeah. What was going on there? Scorbit, huh? A name you haven't heard in a little while. Yeah, they're like ramping up. Uh, I saw that they were in the booth and uh I know Ron is actually he used to live in the Bay Area from my understanding, but now he's up in uh I think New York. Uh, but I saw their booth and I actually did like even a little collab video with them because I was like, "Oh, people should know about this." Like I should make a little video and be like help you guys get more people to come play, make the jackpot even bigger and it was a lot of fun. Let's talk about that because the this in in what you're describing is their tournament that they set up now. Scorbit now supports tournaments like TOPS tournaments or like golden tea tournaments. I don't know if you've familiar with any of that where you win money for playing like games like golden tea like and like uh I think big bug hunter and stuff like that. So you can actually enter pay an entry fee and then you're playing against a jackpot a progressive jackpot that grows and grows and grows. They had um I think Lind Arcade had a uh no fear there. Matt Thally's no fear. Yeah. They had that sucker set up with score bid enabled and a it started off as a $500 cash not cash well cash prize yeah for the top three it was like 50% then 30 and then 20 for uh the split and um everybody contributed everyone contributes to the pot you step up I must have pump and dumped like six bucks into that Erica and got 11th cuz freaking Tim Hans Jim Hansen, our local guy. He came in to Texas to to win. He came to win. Um yeah, I put in I think two games on it. Um cuz I I just didn't get to when I would go by I'd swing by and be like, is this Oh, okay. Nope. I can't. Okay. It's amazing. So, it's now it's competitive, but kind of an a cool kind of competitive mode because you can we're we're I have already it took me five minutes to talk Matt Henry into incorporating that into some games at Free Watch. So, we're already going to have a conversation with Scorbet and we're going to get that in there because I can imagine like just general public, you know, if we do a a match, a tournament every week, general public get involved, but but definitely the people in league will definitely get involved in that. Yeah, if you're if you're going to get a little extra side pot of whatever money, you might as well, you know, instead of playing for fun, you might as well play for some cash, too. Yeah, totally. And he's also looking to uh install at the Rewind Arcade, so I do Oh, you got Adam over at the Rewind. He got Adam, too, to to get some stuff. So, he's going to get I think Adam said he was going to get 20. Wow. Yeah. Is Adam going to do coin drop or just tournaments? tournaments because c um the rewind arcade operates off of they already have Okay. Right. They have a card system and so um yeah'll I'll find out some more. It's relatively new, but uh Scorpit's coming to the Rewind Arcade it looks like to get the whole Bay Area cuz I know they have it at um out in Sacramento where close kind of closeish. It's like an hour from me, probably like an hour and a half or two from you. Um, Capital Pinball Parlor already has it all installed there and they've been using it and I think that they've been really Do they really? Yeah. Cuz I was logging in cuz I was thinking about Scorbit when Indis was coming out. Um, and then I saw Jeff did a really great video with Ron on his uh on his uh YouTube as well. And that's what inspired me to even talk to Ron. I reached out. I was like, "How is he how is Jeff talking to Ron? Those are my friends." Yeah. No, I I was It was so funny because I was thinking about Scorbit and I was like, I think it's going to indisc and then I saw Yeah. then I saw Jeff's uh YouTube video and I was like that's so cool. I want to learn more and I know that he's sort of local and it's a sort of local thing and a bunch of people that we know have had it like Lynn's arcade that's like was my first real arcade that I would go to that I regulared and I live a little farther away now so it makes it a pretty it would take me like two hours to get to Linds right now if I wanted to go join on a league night. But when I go stay with my parents, um, then I can be like 45 minutes away, which is that's that's awesome. I can't wait to go uh visit next next month. Well, big shout out to Ron and Jay for uh I guess this is an evolution of this platform. Scorbit still does everything it did before, but now you can win cash also if you if you want. And you don't have to. You can just use Scorbit to do what you did before, which was um track your games and do all this stuff. But, uh, very exciting. Uh, that's scorbit.io and I'm giving the URL for that cuz they're my buddies and I want to see Yeah, we want to see them succeed. I mean, they're just trying to do something new for pinball and they've like reverse engineered things and just kind of like done all this complicated work and yeah, I'm excited to see where it goes. I see their like slogan is like it pays to play. It pays to play. That's like the little it pays to play is like on top of this. So, um, yeah. Yeah. All in all, I think I I had I had a good time when I actually, uh, got to play some stuff. And I don't know, TPF was, uh, another solid year. What about for you? It's my first year. It was really great getting to go to the show. Like I said, um, it it felt less corporate. There was a lot more uh, partying. I got to give a shout out to the concert held by Pitball Rod and the Extra Balls. Holy moly, that was so fun. Uh, I I had a blast watching those guys play and uh I filmed some of that with Emoto, so a video should come out at some point soon uh with his edit. Uh yeah, and the show for me like I felt uh I was definitely, you know, I was with you at the homebrew booth as we were streaming and I was kind of like coordinating some of that and so on honestly I probably only played like 3 hours of pinball that the whole show. Um and I was there since like Wednesday. So, a lot of talking, a lot of that stuff there. But it was all it's all for the love of pinball. I was there for the tech day actually. So, I will like bring in another little thing from there is that they're doing this thing uh tech day. Now, it's like kind of sponsored by Marco Specialties and they are looking to help teach people how to fix their games uh before the show. So, this way everything's up and running and people can uh get knowledge about how to fix their games. But also, I found out you don't even have to bring a game to come to that day. You can just like be a spectator and you can learn from whoever you want to learn from and like whatever games they're working on. Um, but that was really cool because they have texts from like all over the country that are just so good and that they're just incredibly talented. You have some this guy his name is I want to say his name is Nick and he works at the Rokenoke Roanoke Museum pinball museum and he's like an expert on EM so he's an expert at electronical mechanical machines and it's just like so cool to see these people work and then there was um another guy I want to say his name is Thorne or Thor I I feel so bad but so many new people so many new faces but yeah just a lot of uh and Eugene and Tatucki and Frank and and uh Chuck and just like all sorts of new technician people I got to meet that just do so many cool things. I feel like I got to get in on that next time. That's amazing. Oh, dude, you got to go next time to the tech day. And I was just filming it, so I'm actually working on the edit for the recap of that for Marco right now. Awesome. Hey, Erica, where can people find you outside of this wonderful podcast? Uh well, I'm uh Erica's Pinball Journey, you know. Uh, I'm on Instagram and YouTube. So, I'm mainly just YouTube, Facebook, and YouTube. YouTube, Facebook, and YouTube. YouTube, Facebook, and Instagram. That's cool. Yeah. What about yourself, Manu? Where can people find you? Well, I'm so glad you asked. I'm I'm Mystery Pinball Theater 3000 on Twitch. Twitch.tv/mppt3K. Also on YouTube. Uh, YouTube.com whatever. Mystery Pinball Theater 3000. Uh, and I do have an Instagram account and I'm trying to keep up with you youngans with the stuff. Um, I don't know much about all that stuff that you guys know. I post on there a lot more um because it's just like quick little things. So, but I'm trying to like make sure I also post it onto YouTube after. YouTube's for more more of my long form content. So, I get it. It's hard. It's a lot of work. There's a lot of work. There's so much. There's There's a lot of work. And now, uh, we want we just love work so much. We've added more work. Yeah. With this podcast. But I think this will be going pretty smoothly because I think it's just uh Are we going to add in visuals? We adding in visuals to this. I don't know. Show people things. Let's add in some fire rings and some shark tanks, too. Make it a bit more difficult. Yeah. I don't know. But this was fun. Yeah. I had a great time, man. This is a This was the best time of my life. Um Oh boy. Yeah, this was just like a lot of fun and I can't wait to do it again. This is Erica's little sister. Uh uh. Hana. Uh, Hana. I have a cousin named Hana. Do you know? Of course I know. I Of course you do. That's funny. All right. Pinball Minority. Uh, all right. Take it. The Pinball Minority Report uh is brought to you by me, Erica, and Manu, Mystery Pinball Theater 3000. And uh thank you guys so much for listening. Uh this is our trial episode. We'll see what happens. Uh, and if you like this, then maybe maybe more will come. So, uh, yeah. Tune in. Tune in next time when we talk about more pinball. All right. Bye, guys. I don't want to be the bad guy, baby.